Islam is an Impediment to Human Evolution

I want to ask, is it true that you don’t believe in the Day of Judgment? Is it true that when you die there is no difference between the fate of the wicked, and the wise, there is no difference between the fighters and losers, all will end up being ground, and did not come back to life, do not account for what he has done for the world. If so, there will be no justice.

 

Dear Siti Rahmah Umniyati

There is no such thing as Day of Judgment. The idea that God creates humans so they worship him and if they fail to do so he will burn them for eternity is so stupid that is not befitting for a sane person. This makes God a sadist. Why would God care to be worshiped by tiny insignificant humans and why would he be so offended if we don’t worship him? Remember that according to Muhammad God will forgive all sins except the sin of disbelief. So you can abuse others, cheat them, and even kill them. As long as you have faith in Muhammad and his Allah all your sins will be forgiven. This is not justice. This is stupid. Muhammad said these things so people believe in him. That is all he cared for. He did not care about people being good to each other. He instructed them to be evil and harsh to each other. He wanted them to believe in him. Allah was his tool to deceive the foolhardy.

Yes there is justice in the world, but nothing like what Muhammad said.  When you do something wrong you hamper your own spiritual growth. If you put your hand in fire, you burn yourself. You break a physical law and pay the consequences immediately. Likewise, when you break a spiritual law e.g. abuse and cheat others you hurt yourself spiritually.

molecular thoughts

 

Spiritual growth is attained through consciousness. Everything is consciousness. The only way we can attain more consciousness is through love. Consciousness cannot be attained through fear. Islam is entirely based on fear. Fear is the weapon of the sociopath. God is love, not fear.  Consciousness makes us grow in love. Ignorance makes us fear.  A religion that is founded on fear cannot be from God. Fear is the child of ignorance.  God is pure knowledge, pure consciousness.  The closer you get to God the more you will be filled with love. Love for what? Love for people, animals, plants and things. Everything is the manifestation of God.  Every atom in this universe is divine because it reflects the infinite consciousness we call God.

Fear is the product of ignorance. Ignorance produces also hatred. Islam is based on fear and hatred. The moment you become a Muslim you start hating all non-Muslims to the extent that you willingly want kill yourself in order to kill them.  If all religions are from the same God, why no other religion teaches murder of unbelievers?  Why all religious terrorists are Muslims?  Why there is so much hate and anger in Muslims? How can a religion, so filled with hatred and fear be from God that is pure love?

The claim that we are here to be tested is utterly stupid. Why would an all-knowing God test people? Doesn’t he know everything?  Then again, Muhammad said nothing happens without the will of God. This means the unbelievers don’t believe because God has so willed. In that case why punish them?

Muhammad’s thinking does not add up. It is clear that he was a very ignorant man with no spiritual insight and not even understanding of reason and commonsense.

A self-sufficient god creates humans so they worship him? If the goal of creation is to worship God then God is not self-sufficient. He must be a needy God. If I make a chair, it is because I need it. If I don’t need a chair, why would I make it? If God does not need humans why did he make them? If he needs them then he is a needy god. A needy god cannot be God.

An all knowing god created humans to test them? Is there anything more stupid than this?  If God knows everything, what is he testing us for?

That is not all. This god Muhammad talked about also has predestined everything. He decides who should believe and who should not and seals the hearts of some people to make them fuel for hell. Does it make any sense?  Is sadist God worthy of worship? Isn’t it blasphemy to attribute this much insanity to God?  Islam is blasphemy. It is kufr. Everything Muhammad said is insult to God and to reason.

I’m sure even if you had proclaimed yourself as an atheist you still need help from Him. If there is a tornado storm in your home, I am sure you are still in need of Him.

 

As a Muslim you can’t possibly understand God. You can’t stop tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis or other natural disasters by praying.  It is foolish to think we can change the laws of nature by supplicating.  Pray fervently first and then jump from the top of a high-rise. If Allah listens to you and you survive, come back and tell us about it. You won’t do that because you know it does not work that way and prayers will not help you.  As longs as you have a mass the gravitational force of the Earth will pull you toward itself and once you hit the ground your bones will be crushed. No amount of prayers will change the law of gravity or make an exception for you. Your argument is utterly baseless.  Just because a lot of people believe in a lie, it does not make it true.

This does not mean we are helpless. We can live a happy and fulfilling life if we understand the laws of the nature and use them to our advantage.    To understand the laws governing the universe we have to expand our awareness.

In the last 500 years, since Copernicus, humanity has entered a new age of enlightenment. Our understanding of the universe has expanded. Knowledge is power. We are now more powerful than ever. The more our understanding of the universe and the laws governing it expands the more mastery of the world we can claim.  Now we can defeat most of the diseases that decimated mankind in the past. We can live longer than ever. We live with more comfort and freedom than ever. All this is thanks to the expansion of our consciousness.

Only a tiny percentage of humans have reached this stage of expanded consciousness. The rest are taking a free ride. The majority of people and virtually all Muslims still live in the darkness of ignorance and fear. They contribute nothing to humanity. They are like parasites.  Imagine how much the world will advance if these human parasites become also enlightened and contribute their share.

We have barely dipped our toes in the vast ocean of knowledge. We are at the verge of discovering a new world.  Since Newton, science and spirituality were separated. However, quantum physics has opened a new door to a new world. The universe is not made of matter. It is made of consciousness.  This is the biggest discovery ever.  Quantum physics tells us that we create our world.  The world comes to be through our consciousness. It is pure consciousness.

As humans we are at the end of our biological evolution. But we are at the beginning of another far greater – the evolution of humanity – the evolution of the super human.

Think about it: For 2.5 billion years the Earth was populated by single cell organisms. At one point, something extraordinary happened. A group of cells formed a colony and started working together. This expanded their ability as well as their consciousness. They became more organized, more powerful, with a better chance of survival.  Other colonies were formed and they competed with each other. That completion set in motion the evolution of more complex organisms. We humans are the result of that evolution. Each evolution brought with itself a more expanded consciousness.

There is another stage of evolution in store. Now is the time that we humans come together and give birth to a new mega organism: The Humanity.  This process is inevitable. Humanity will come together. It will become one mega organism and when that happens, the world will be revolutionized. It is impossible to imagine what this evolution will be like just as it was impossible for cells forming the first organisms to imagine what they are creating.

The force that brings things together is called attraction. In atoms this force is manifested as strong force – the force that binds the nucleus of the atom together.  In larger objects this force is expressed as gravity. Gravity is what forms celestial objects, holds planets in the orbit of their sun and animals and people attached to the Earth.  Life evolves through sexual attraction. The highest form of attraction is love.

The opposite of attraction is repulsion. Fear is a manifestation of repulsion.  A society that is based on fear is doomed for destruction. A good example of that are Muslim countries. They are the most abject and impoverished countries of the world. Even the ones with oil are hells on earth. Muslims are going down while everyone else is going up. Look at Pakistan and compare it to India. Pakistan is on the verge of destruction while India is about to become a super power. The only difference between these two countries is Islam.

Humanity needs love to evolve. In order for all mankind to come together and facilitate the next phase of evolution on this planet, people must replace the thoughts of hate with the thoughts of love. Everything is thought. Matter is consciousness.  When 1.5 billion benighted souls project nothing but hate, there is no wonder that this world is in such a mess.  We can’t change the world unless we change our consciousness. Unless we replace the hate with love, the world will remain a hellish world.  Love and hate are forms of energy. They are attractive energy and repulsive energy. Attraction is responsible for life and repulsion is responsible for death.

This planet is ready for its next phase of evolution. The Internet has paved the way to bring all mankind closer. I am not talking about a world government. We should never allow that to happen. I am talking about the unity in purpose, based on love. Love is the child of freedom; it cannot be enforced. The individual’s right must never be taken away.   Humanity must come together so that we can expand our consciousness. This will be possible when we get rid of hate and let love reside in our hearts. Religions of hate have no place in this world. That is why Islam must go. This cult of hate is the biggest hindrance to human evolution. When 1.5 billion people project hatred, they make this world a hell.  Islam must be eradicated for the world to become a paradise.

 

Come back to Him, you had been instrumental in screening so that it becomes clear who is a believer, and who the apostates, and hypocrites.

 

Come back to what? To ignorance, to fear, to stupidity? What is this nonsense about believers, non-believers and apostates? We are all humans. No real God makes any distinctions between humans. Why should we?  No real God cares about belief and disbelief. Why should we? God is love and all we have to do is to fill our hearts with love.  Hate is the antithesis of God. It is Muslims who must come to God – reject hate and open their hearts to God and to love. Fear and love don’t mix together. Hate and love can’t dwell in the same heart. Muslims’ entire worldview is based on fear and on hate – fear of a sadistic deity and hatred of mankind.  Every email I get from Muslims has this underlying fear of hell in it.  How can rational people allow themselves to be so fooled?

There is nothing more evil than Islam.  This religion is diabolic.  Muslims become evil to the extent that they believe and practice Islam.  The more devout ones put bombs in the streets and slit the throats of innocent people. The rest are no different, just a few notches behind. As soon as they become full of faith they too become murderers.  How can any sane person believe in this stupid religion?

I don’t believe in moderate Muslims. One can’t be moderately pregnant.  This is another Islamic deception. We must reject Islam altogether. It is a deadly virus. It is dangerous, whether it is little or a lot.  We have to stop this charade and shame the proponents of moderate Islam. They are deceivers and liars. They are the actual hypocrites. Islam is Islam and that is it. It must be rejected in all its shapes and forms.

Indeed, only a few Muslims became apostates after reading your stories. Many of them will have their faith grow stronger, and increasingly feel the joy of prayer.

I write for those who seek the truth. Those who love evil will remain Muslim.  I unmask the truth about Muhammad and his bogus faith of hate and reveal to the world that he was an evil man. Those who are attracted to evil will feel joy in their hearts. Islam is a good religion for evil people. Those who seek goodness will leave Islam.  I can’t change the hearts of people.

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  10. dssc7 says:

    A`uudubillaahi minasy syaithoonir rajiim
    Qur`an Surat Al Baarah: 62
    Innalladziina aamanu walladziina haadu wannashaara washshaabi iina man aamana billaahi wal yaumil aakhiri wa`amila shaalihan fa lahum ajruhum `inda rabbihim wa laa khaufun `alaihim wa laa hum yahanuun

    Sahih International
    Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] – those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness – will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.

    Indonesian
    Sesungguhnya orang-orang mukmin, orang-orang Yahudi, orang-orang Nasrani dan orang-orang Shabiin, siapa saja diantara mereka yang benar-benar beriman kepada Allah, hari kemudian dan beramal saleh, mereka akan menerima pahala dari Tuhan mereka, tidak ada kekhawatiran kepada mereka, dan tidak (pula) mereka bersedih hati.

  11. dssc7 says:

    Dr Ali Sina, you have a whip for us (Muslims), so we do not make the Holy Qur`an as mere decoration, but we have to read it, study it, understand it, as a guidance of our way of life in order to live happily in this world and the hereafter. Thank God, it has been circulated in our country Indonesia the Holy books, complete with translations, asbaabun nuzul, and interpretation in Indonesian languages which can be read using e-pen or e-reader, it gives us easy to understand Al Quran. I bought it Yesterday. Wow, it is really amazing. Therefore, it does not seem fair, if I did not express my gratitude to you, hopefully you can finally enjoy how delicious studying the Holy Qur`an, if accompanied by a sense of faith in it.

  12. narcole1919721 says:

    Barakallah siti. i totally agree. they arent the first haters on earth. Where are the first haters now?  did they leave trace. these haters only given time less than a century to talk as much as they want. and then what happen next, only themselves who know. they cant go back to warn new haters what they might experience. 

  13. Dear Narcole 1919721,
    Thank you very much for your opinion that I show my love toward all humans, include to infidels, and I obviously practising my religion in nice and clean way, and being good model.

    You are critical man and fair to judge someone. May God also give a good assessment to me, and you. Hopefully this is the outcome of my fasting. You see, fasting is a test to control ourselves from desire (lust) that has been bestowed by God upon us. Human is the most perfect creation of God, because we have been bestowed brain for thinking, and also awarded the lust, but if we are not good at controlling our lust, we could be the least of creatures, more despicable than animals, and the devil.

    Is lust a Grace of God? I am sure you do not deny it. We have to control the tremendous of grace well, so that we can enjoy it. God has provided guidance for us through His holy scriptures such as Veda, Taurat, Psalm, Gospel, and Al Quranul Kareem in the form of good news, alerts, and an eternal life after death to his messengers such as Abraham, Moses, David, Yesus, and Muhammad peace be upon him through the Angel Gabriel.

    I chose the Qur'an as a guide to my life because the Qur'an is the last Holy Scriptures so it is maintained its purity. I chose the Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam as a good role model for my life, even though Ali Sina and his loyal followers insulted him as fraudsters, robbers, criminals, rapists, murderers and other bad predicate.

    Every I explain his good and noble character, they laugh at me and insulted me as a fool, lacking intellect, crazy woman, bitch animals, shameless, some even insulted me as a cheap whore. On the other hand there are complimented me as a good religion, and prospective residents of heaven, and if all muslims are like me, the Indonesian country will be safe and peaceful, he said. You also end up with a salute me, because I can love others, and to practice religion properly and clean.

    Now, when I was alive, I see a variety of judgments about me, depending on who is judging, and how much they know me.It was eventually stabilize me to stay committed in Islam, and was always so positive thinking in my beloved Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam.

  14. narcole1919721 says:

    That shows ur love toward all humans, include to infidels. you obviously practicing ur religion in nice and clean way. good model. in educating, best method to teach isnt preaching, but being good model. salute.  can infidels show good models to us here?

  15. Dear Narcole 1919721
    You said that, whatever I write, they will always doubt it. Even if I say I am a woman and a human, they will doubt. they will say I am an animal, and tranny. which is funny, tranny animal.
    I understand, the loyal followers of Ali Sina are Darwinism. Therefore they can not differentiate between human and animals, because they believe that their ancestors are animals. I hope Ali Sina and his follower slowly come to realize that their ancestors are not animals. Amin yaa rabbal `aalamiin.

  16. narcole1919721 says:

    Yalla, be responsible for any word you say. Dont make us doubt you 🙂

  17. narcole1919721 says:

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  18. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

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  19. narcole1919721 says:

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  20. narcole1919721 says:

    None islam lovers became islam haters. only moslem born did. once fell in love, the more love grows.

  21. narcole1919721 says:

    How many islam haters became islam lovers? :' ) 

  22. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

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  33. Mossad, or HaMossad leModi'in v'leTafkidim Meyuhadim, in Hebrew, is one of the five major intelligence agencies of the state of Israel. Its headquarters are in Tel Aviv, and while its size is not exactly publicly disclosed, its thought to employ approximately 1,200 employees who are responsible for the nation’s intelligence operations, covert actions and counter terrorism. Many consider Mossad to be the most important part of the state’s intelligence gathering agencies.

  34. narcole1919721 says:

    Dear siti, whatever you write, they will always doubt it. Even if you say you are a woman and a human, they will doubt. they will say you are an animal, and tranny. which is funny, tranny animal. 

  35. The arguments in favor of the Mossad hypothesis are not only related to the reputation of the world’s most powerful secret service, which a report by the U.S. Army School for Advanced Military Studies (quoted by theWashington Times on the eve of September 11th), described as “wildcat, ruthless and cunning. Able to carry out an attack on U.S. forces and disguise it as an act committed by Palestinians/Arabs (In addition to the book by Hicham Hamza and Christopher Bollyn, more on this issue from: Justin Raimondo, The Terror Enigma: 9/11 and the Israeli Connection, iUniversal, 2003 as well as an article by Christopher Ketcham, “What Did Israel Know in Advance of the 9/11 Attacks?“, CounterPunch, 2007, vol. 14, p. 1-10).

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  38. narcole1919721 says:

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  39. narcole1919721 says:

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  40. Billaahit taufiq wal hidaayah
    Wassalaamu `alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh

  41. [30] “An act of catastrophic terrorism that killed thousands or tens of thousands of people and/or disrupted the necessities of life for hundreds of thousands, or even millions, would be a watershed event in America’s history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented for peacetime and undermine Americans’ fundamental sense of security within their own borders in a manner akin to the 1949 Soviet atomic bomb test, or perhaps even worse. […] Like Pearl Harbor, the event would divide our past and future into a before and after. The United States might respond with draconian measures scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects and use of deadly force” (Griffin, 9/11 Contradictions, p. 295-6).

    [31] “We Are Still Searching” (The Daily Beast, December 17, 2007.

    Note: This article first appeared at voltairenet.org on 10 July 2013.
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  42. [25] “Of course it was Iraq’s energy resources. It’s not even a question”(Stephen Sniegoski, The Transparent Cabal : The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel, Enigma Edition, 2008, p. 333).

    [26] “‘Big Oil’ not only did not promote the invasion, but has failed to secure a single oil field, despite the presence of 160,000 US troops, 127,000 Pentagon/State Department paid mercenaries and a corrupt puppet régime” (James Petras, Zionism, Militarism and the Decline of US Power, Clarity Press, 2008, p. 18).

    [27] “Kennedy, the Lobby and the Bomb”, by Laurent Guyénot, Translation Gaia Edwards, Voltaire Network, 2 May 2013.

    [28] Gordon Thomas, Gideon’s Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad, Griffin; New Ed edition (23 Feb 2007).

    [29] Gordon Thomas, op.cit.

  43. [20] “Evidence that there were foreign governments involved in facilitating the activities of at least some of the terrorists in the United States” (Raimondo, The Terror Enigma, p. 64).

    [21] “The threat of civil unrest against the monarchy, led by al Qaeda” (“Saudi Arabia : Friend or Foe?,” The Daily Beast, 11 July 2011).

    [22] The Keys to the Kingdom, Vanguard Press, 2011

    [23] Summary from Amazon.ca

    [24] “Contrary to Chomsky’s theories, the United States has no interest to support Israel”, by Jeffrey Blankfort, Voltaire Network, 28 September 2006.

  44. [16] “The Hollywood, Florida, area seems to be a central point for these individuals” (Raimondo, The Terror Enigma, p. 3).

    [17] David Ray Griffin, 9/11 Contradictions, Arris Books, 2008, p. 142-156, citing the Daily Mail, the Boston Herald, the San Francisco Chronicle and The Wall Street Journal.

    [18] “The aircraft cut a gash that was over half the width of the building and extended from the 93rd floor to the 99th floor. All but the lowest of these floors were occupied by Marsh & McLennan, a worldwide insurance company, which also occupied the 100th floor.” (p. 20). These elements have been analyzed by Lalo Vespera in La parenthèse enchantée, ch. 10

    [19] “Like an act of God, we moved,” (USA Today, 17 septembre 2001).

  45. [13] “In the past six weeks, employees in federal office buildings located throughout the United States have reported suspicious activities connected with individuals representing themselves as foreign students selling or delivering artwork.” “These individuals have also gone to the private residences of senior federal officials under the guise of selling art.” Drug Enforcement Administration Report.

    [14] “The nature of the individuals’ conducts […] leads us to believe the incidents may well be an organized intelligence gathering activity” (Raimondo, The Terror Enigma, p. x).

    [15] “acknowledged he could blow up buildings, bridges, cars, and anything else that he needed to” (Bollyn, Solving 9/11, p. 159).

  46. [10] See Youtube “Dancing Israelis, our purpose was to document the event.”

    [11] “Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like Palestinians and going around a building. […] I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and he has those sheikh uniforms. […] He’s dressed like an Arab” (Bollyn, Solving 9-11, p. 278-80).

    [12] “Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like Palestinians and going around a building. […] I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and he has those sheikh uniforms. […] He’s dressed like an Arab” (Bollyn, Solving 9-11, p. 278-80).

  47. [7] “I was in tears. These guys were joking and that bothered me”(Raimondo, The Terror Enigma, p. 19 ); Hamza, Le Grand Tabou, ch. 2.

    [8] “They smiled, they hugged each other and they appeared to ‘high five’ one another“; “the United States will take steps to stop terrorism in the world“; “Give us twenty years and we’ll take over your media and destroy your country“; “an individual in South America with authentic ties to Islamic militants in the middle east“; “The vehicule was also searched by a trained bomb-sniffing dog which yielded a positive result for the presence of explosive traces” (Hamza, Le Grand Tabou, ch. 2).

    [9] “… that the FBI no longer has any investigative interests in the detainees and they should proceed with the appropriate immigration proceedings” (Hamza, Le Grand Tabou, ch. 2).

  48. [4] “Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack. White, 2000 Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration with ’Urban Moving Systems’ sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center. Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion” (Raimondo, The Terror Enigma, p. xi).

    [5] “We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem.” (Hicham Hamza, Le Grand Tabou, ch. 2).

    [6] “There are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted. It looked like they’re hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park” (Raimondo, The Terror Enigma, p. xi).

  49. Translation
    Roger Lagassé[1] Original article in Italian: “Demystifying 9/11: Israel and the Tactics of Mistake — Alan Sabrosky.”

    [2] “Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act” (Rowan Scarborough, “U.S. troops would enforce peace Under Army study,”The Washington Times, 10 September 2001.)

    [3] In addition to the book by Hicham Hamza and Christopher Bollyn, more on this issue from: Justin Raimondo, The Terror Enigma: 9/11 and the Israeli Connection, iUniversal, 2003 as well as an article by Christopher Ketcham, “What Did Israel Know in Advance of the 9/11 Attacks?“, CounterPunch, 2007, vol. 14, p. 1-10).

  50. Where does the list of Zionist-designed fake Islamic terrorism end? The “New York Times” and other newspapers reported that on September 19, 2005, two agents of the British Special Forces (SAS) were arrested after forcing a road block in a car filled with weapons, ammunition, explosives and detonators which they drove disguised as Arabs. It is suspected that they were planning to commit violent attacks in the center of Basra during a religious event, to stir up conflict between Shiites and Sunnis. The same evening, a SAS unit freed the two agents by destroying the prison with a dozen tanks assisted by helicopters. Captain Masters, charged with the investigation of this embarrassing affair, died in Basra on October 15.

  51. Paul Bremer appeared on September 11, 2001 on the set of NBC, calm and relaxed, while 400 employees of his company are missing (in the end, 295 employees and more than 60 of the group’s associates were to be officially counted among the victims).

    Complicity must also be sought in airports and airlines involved in the attacks. Both airports from which flights AA11, UA175 and UA93 took off (Logan Airport in Boston and Newark Airport near New York) subcontracted their security to International Consultants on Targeted Security (ICTS), a firm financed through Israel and headed by Menachem Atzmon, a treasurer of the Likud. A thorough investigation would certainly lead to other accomplices. Such an investigation should, for example, focus on Zim Israel Navigational, a giant maritime shipping outfit 48% held by the Jewish state (known to occasionally be used as a cover for the Israeli secret service), the US head of which left his offices at WTC with his 200 employees Sept. 4, 2001, one week before the attacks – “Like an act of God [19] – commented the CEO Shaul Cohen-Mintz.

  52. The CEO of Marsh & McLennan was then Jeffrey Greenberg, a member of a wealthy Jewish family that contributed heavily to the campaign of George W. Bush. Greenberg was also the insurer of the twin towers and on July 24, 2001, they had taken the precaution of reinsuring their contracts with competitors who had to indemnify Silverstein and Lowy. And as the world of the neocons is small, in November 2000, the Board of Directors of Marsh & McLennan welcomed Paul Bremer, President of the National Commission on Terrorism at the time of the attacks, and appointed as the head of the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) in 2003.

  53. Other members of the New York-based network can be identified. According to the NIST report, the Boeing that crashed into the North Tower “cut a gash that was over half the width of the building and extended from the 93rd floor to the 99th floor. All but the lowest of these floors were occupied by Marsh & McLennan, a worldwide insurance company, which also occupied the 100th floor [18].”

  54. Lucky Larry! Every morning, without exception, Larry Silverstein took his breakfast at Windows on the World atop the north tower of the WTC. Until the morning of September 11, when he had an appointment with a dermatologist.

  55. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Absolute BS. In 2004 Osama bin Ladan claimed responsibility for the attacks giving as some his reasons, American support for Israel, the sanctions imposed on Iraq, what he called suppression of muslims worldwide and American 'occupation' of islamic lands particularly Saudi Arabia with its importance to the muhammadan faith. Why would the "islamic and Arab holy warrior' have taken responsibility for what its worst enemy, the Jews, had done? 9/11 was not the first attack on the Twin Towers. There was an earlier one involving a blind Egyptian cleric given refuge by the US. Was he also working for Israel? Osama bin Laden would later boast that with only $500,000 he was able to hit America with a destruction worth billions of dollars and from which it will take long to recover. To be convincing you will have to show the connection between Osama bin Laden and Israel. Otherwise replying to something like this is to give respectability to a worthless enterprise.

  56. Silverstein was also at the time of the attacks, the intimate friend of Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu, with whom he was in conversation every Sunday, according to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. Silverstein’s partner for the mall basement in the lease of the WTC was Frank Lowy, another Zionist “philanthropist” close to Ehud Barak and Ehud Olmert, former member of the Haganah. The head of the New York Port Authority, which privatized the WTC, granting the lease to Silverstein and Lowy was Lewis Eisenberg, also a member of the United Jewish Appeal Federation and former vice president of AIPAC. Silverstein, Lowy and Eisenberg were undoubtedly three key men in the planning of the attacks against the Twin Towers.

  57. They number in the thousands in the United States, particularly in New York, where the U.S. Jewish community is concentrated. Larry Silverstein, the leaseholder of the Twin Towers as of April 2001, appears as the archetype of a September 11sayan. He is a leading member of the United Jewish Appeal/Federation of Jewish Philanthropies of New York, the largest U.S. fund raiser for Israel (after the U.S. government, which pays annually three billion in aid to Israel).

  58. The New York Network
    According to the renegade agent, Victor Ostrovsky (By Way of Deception, 1990), the Mossad draws its effectiveness from its international network of sayanim (“collaborators”), the Hebrew term designating Jews living outside Israel and ready to perform illegal actions on demand, without necessarily knowing their ultimate purpose.

  59. The false Mohamed Atta in Florida was living with a stripper, ate pork, loved fast cars, casinos and cocaine. As reported by the South Florida Sun-Sentinel on September 16, “The suspects’ actions do not add up.” As also reported by many national newspapers, this Atta got drunk, drugged and paid for the services of several prostitutes in the weeks and days before the September 11 attacks, and four other suicide bombers had similar behavior incompatible with Islamists preparing for death [17].

  60. The truth is that they were probably not spying on the pirates, but that they manipulated them, financed them, and probably likely eliminated them shortly before September 11. An article in the New York Times of February 18, 2009 established that Ali al-Jarrah, cousin of a suspected Flight 93 pirate, Ziad al-Jarrah, had been a spy for the Mossad for 25 years, infiltrating the Palestinian resistance and Hezbollah in 1983. He is currently in prison in Lebanon. Let’s also recall that the Mohamed Atta in Florida was a fake. The real Mohamed Atta, who called his father after the attacks (as last confirmed by the German magazine Bild am Sonntag in late 2002), is described by his family as reserved, pious, avoiding women and having a fear of planes. He had his passport stolen in 1999 while studying architecture in Hamburg.

  61. Why does Pujadas (propelled to France 2 television news just a week before September 11) mention Afghanistan, which has nothing to do with the information being introduced? The slip can only be deliberate and illustrates “the great taboo” which Hicham Hamza alludes to: never mention September 11 and Israel in the same sentence.

  62. Some sources go even further: they indicate that the Mossad may not have shared all the information in its possession.” This euphemistic explanation is an example of damage control. Israel appears barely tainted, since we can not reasonably blame a spy service for not shariong information. At worst, Israel can be accused of having “let it happen“, which guarantees impunity. This explains, in my opinion, the sub-secondary cover of the spies-as-fake-Israeli-students, actually experts at false flag attacks. In fact, the students’ deliberately frail cover was made to draw attention to their secondary cover, that of spies, which would serve as an alibi for their proximity to the alleged pirates.

  63. According to the embarrassed explanation by the aligned media, the former were just monitoring the latter. Listen for example to David Pujadas introducing the Intelligence Online article televised March 5, 2002 on France 2: “More about Israel, but specifically concerning Afghanistan now, this espionage affaire is troubling: an Israeli network was dismantled in the United States, particularly in Florida: one of its missions was to track the men of Al-Qaeda (this was before September 11).

  64. One of them, Hanan Serfaty, through whom at least one hundred thousand dollars transited in three months, had rented two Hollywood apartments close to the apartment and post office box rented by Mohamed Atta, who was presented to us as the leader of the gang of hijackers. What was the relationship between the “Israeli spies” and the “Islamic terrorists?”

  65. According to the DEA report, “The Hollywood community in Florida seems to have been the focal point of these individuals [16].” In fact, more than thirty of the fake Israeli student spies arrested shortly before September 11 lived in or near the city of Hollywood, Florida, precisely where 15 of the 19 alleged Islamist hijackers had regrouped (9 in Hollywood proper and 6 others nearby).

  66. The DEA report concluded that “the nature of the behavior of these individuals […]leads us to believe that the incidents are perhaps intelligence gathering [15].” Why would these Israeli agents have diverted attention from their real mission in a campaign of espionage as ostentatious as unproductive curiously focusing on the Drug Enforcement Agency? The answer to this question is suggested by a disturbing geographical link between this network and the attacks of September 11.

  67. In 2003, he was appointed to head the new Department of Homeland Security in charge of counter-terrorism on U.S. territory, which allows him to control dissent while continuing to restrict access to the file of Sept. 11 through the law of Sensitive Security Information.

  68. Michael Chertoff, an Israeli citizen, the son of an Orthodox rabbi and a pioneer of the Mossad, headed the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice in 2001, and as such was responsible for the retention and destruction of all evidence regarding the 11th of September – from Pentagon cameras to World Trade Center beams. It is to him also that the “dancing Israelis” owe their discreet repatriation.

  69. Then in the summer, the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), after being targeted by a large number of such incidents, compiled a report which was revealed to the public by the Washington Post on November 23, 2001, and in The World on March 14, 2002, before being made fully accessible by the French magazine Intelligence Online. This report lists 140 Israelis arrested since March 2001. Aged between 20 and 30 years and organized into teams of 4 to 8 members, they visited at least “36 sensitive sites in the Department of Defense.” Many of them were identified as members of the Mossad and Aman (Israeli military intelligence), and six were in possession of phones paid for by a former Israeli vice consul. Sixty arrests occurred after September 11, bringing to 200 the number of Israeli spies arrested. All were eventually released.

  70. “During the past six weeks, employees of federal offices located throughout the United States have reported suspicious activities related to individuals posing as foreign students selling or delivering artwork.” The NACIC specifies that these individuals, citizens of Israel, “also went to private homes of federal officials under the guise of selling art objects [13].”

  71. 200 explosives expert spies

    Few people, even among the 9/11 Truthers, know the story of “the dancing Israelis” (we are still waiting, for example, for the Reopen 9/11 Association to talk about it on its Francophone site, though they are very sharp on all other aspects of the case). Also, few people know that at the time of the attacks, the U.S. federal police were busy dismantling the largest Israeli spy network ever identified on US soil. In March 2001, the National Counterintelligence Center (NACIC) posted this message on its website:

  72. Ehud Barak, former head of Israeli military intelligence (Sayeret Matkal), was Prime Minister from July 1999 to March 2001. Replaced by Ariel Sharon, he moved to the United States as a consultant for Electronic Data Systems and SCP Partners, a Mossad screen company specializing in security issues which, with its partners Metallurg Holdings and Advanced Metallurgical, had the ability to produce nano-thermite. SCP Partners had an office within ten kilometers of Urban Moving Systems. An hour after the disintegration of the towers, Ehud Barak is on the set of BBC World to describe bin Laden as the prime suspect (Bollyn, Solving 9-11, p. 278-280).

  73. I personally lean toward the second hypothesis (informants as accomplices rather than true Arabs in disguise) because the police report makes no mention of any exotic clothing found in the van, but especially because the informant cited above, who emphasized the clothing details, seems to have wanted to mislead the police about the exact location of the van; the latter was intercepted only because the police, instead of being satisfied with just this location, blocked all bridges and underground tunnels between New Jersey and New York. But the important thing is this: If the Israelis had not been arraigned in the late afternoon, the story probably would have made headlines with the title: The Dancing Arabs. Instead, it was completely suppressed and was circulated only confidentially under the title The dancing Dancing Israelis, or The Highfivers.

  74. We must finally mention an important detail of this affair, which may provide an additional explanation for the exuberant behavior of these young Israelis: some witnesses specify in their calls to the police, that people rejoicing on the roof of their van seemed to be “Arabs” or “Palestinians“. In particular, shortly after the collapse of the towers, an anonymous call to police in Jersey City, reported on the same day by NBC News, described “a white van with two or three guys on the inside, they look like Palestinians and they are circling around a building“, one of them “is mixing things and he has a ’sheikh’s outfit on.[…] He is dressed like an Arab [12].” All indications are that these individuals were precisely the five Israelis arrested later.

  75. Omer Marmari, Oded Ellner and Yaron Shmuel, three of the five “dancing Israelis” are invited to report in an Israeli TV programe upon their return in November 2001. Denying being members of Mossad, one of them said candidly: “Our goal was to record the event.”

  76. As Hamza notes, the report’s conclusion is thought provoking: the FBI informs the local police detaining the suspects that, “the FBI has no further interest in investigating the prisoners and ’appropriate immigration procedures should be initiated [11].” A letter from the federal Immigration and Naturalization Service in fact shows that the FBI management recommended the termination of the investigation on September 24, 2001. However, the five Israelis spent 71 days in prison in Brooklyn, during which they refused, then failed several lie detector tests. They were subsequently repatriated under the simple charges of visa violations.

  77. Moreover, at least one witness saw them positioned at 8:00, before an aircraft struck the first tower, while others certify that they were already taking pictures five minutes later, which is confirmed by their photos. A former employee confirmed to the FBI, the fanatically pro-Israeli and anti-American atmosphere that reigned in the company, even attributing to its director, Dominik Otto Suter, these words: “Give us twenty years and we will seize and destroy your media and your country.” The five arrested Israelis were in contact with another moving company called Classic International Movers, four employees of which were interviewed separately for their links with the nineteen suspected hijackers. One of them had called “an individual in South America with genuine links to Islamic militants in the Middle East.” Finally, “a sniffer dog gave a positive result for the presence of traces of explosives in the vehicle [10].”

  78. The FBI conducted an investigation contained in a 579 page report, partially declassified in 2005 (it will be completely declassified in 2035). Freelance journalist Hisham Hamza analyzed this in detail in his book Israel and September 11: The Great Taboo. It shows a number of damning elements. First, the photos taken by these young Israelis actually show them in attitudes of celebration before the North Tower on fire: “They smiled, they hugged and they gave each other high fives.” To explain this, stakeholders said they were simply delighted “that the United States should now take steps to stop terrorism in the world” (although, at this point, a majority of people thought the crashes were an accident rather than an actd of terrorism).

  79. The Washington Post(November 23, 2001) said they were Israelis, but passed over in silence their apparent foreknowledge of the event. However, The Forward (March 15, 2002), a magazine of the New York Jewish community, revealed that, according to an anonymous U.S. intelligence source, Urban Moving Systems was a Mossad undercover unit (which did not prevent it from receiving a federal loan of 498,750 dollars, as shown by the tax records)] [9].

  80. The information disclosed by The Record, confirmed by the police report, was taken on by investigative sites such as the Wayne Madsen Report (September 14, 2005) andCounterpunch (February 7, 2007). It was also reported in some main media as well but in a way that minimized its scope: the New York Times (November 21, 2001) failed to mention the nationality of the individuals, just like Fox News and the Associated Press.

  81. The five Israelis worked officially for a moving company named Urban Moving Systems, whose employees were mostly Israelis. “I was in tears. These guys were joking and that bothered me [8],” stated one of the few non-Israeli workers to The Record. On September14, after receiving a visit from the police, the business owner, Dominik Otto Suter, left the country for Tel Aviv.

  82. Police sources who informed Paulo Lima were convinced of the involvement of the Israelis in the morning’s attacks: “There were maps of the city in the van with some of the points highlighted. It looked like they knew […] they knew what would happen when they were at Liberty State Park [7]. Passports of various nationalities, nearly 6000 dollars in cash and open airline tickets to travel abroad were also found on them. The Kurzberg brothers were formally identified as Mossad agents.

  83. The van was stopped by police a few hours later, with five young Israelis aboard: Sivan and Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari. Physically forced out of the vehicle and pinned to the ground, the driver, Sivan Kurzberg, launched this strange sentence: “We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem [6].”

  84. They then moved their van to another parking spot in Jersey City, where other witnesses saw them display the same ostentatious celebrations. The police immediately issued a BOLO alert (be-on-the-look-out): “Vehicle possibly related to the terrorist attack in New York. 2000 white Chevrolet van with New Jersey plates and an ’Urban Moving Systems’ sign at the back, was seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into the World Trade Center. Three individuals with the van were seen celebrating after the initial impact and the explosion that followed [5].

  85. This information was reported the very next day by journalist Paulo Lima in The Record, the newspaper of Bergen County in New Jersey, according to police sources. Immediately after the first impact on the North Tower, three individuals were seen by several witnesses on the roof of a van parked at Liberty State Park in Jersey City, “celebrating” and “jumping up and down,” and photographing themselves with the twin towers in the background.

  86. How many of us know, for example, that the only people arrested on the same day in connection with the terrorist attacks of September 11 are Israelis [4]?

  87. The eBook by Hicham Hamza, “Israel and September 11: The Great Taboo” (2013) brings together the case against Israel, with impeccable precision and all easily accessible sources.

  88. Sitti says:

    Understanding Ali Sina
    VOLTAIRE NETWORK | 10 JULY 2013

    While Israel’s role in the destabilization of the world post-September 11 is becoming increasingly clear, the idea that a faction of Likudniks, aided by their allies embedded in the U.S. State apparatus, are responsible for the false flag operation of September 11 is becoming more difficult to suppress, and some individuals have the courage to state so publicly. Francesco Cossiga, President of Italy between 1985 and 1992, declared on 30 November 2007 to the daily Corriere della Sera:

    From areas around the Palazzo Chigi, nerve centre of direction of Italian intelligence, it is noted that the non-authenticity of the video is supported by the fact that Osama bin Laden in it ’confessed’ that Al Qaeda was responsible for the 9/11 attack on the Twin Towers in New York. However, all of the democratic areas of America and of Europe, with the Italian center-left in the forefront, now know full well that the disastrous attack was planned and executed by the American CIA and Mossad with the help of the Zionist world to falsely incriminate Arabic countries and to persuade the Western Powers to intervene in Iraq and Afghanistan [1].”

    Alan Sabrosky, former professor at the U.S. Army War College and the U.S. Military Academy, did not hesitate to proclaim his belief that September 11 is a “classical operation orchestrated by Mossad” carried out with accomplices within the United States government, and his voice has been forcefully echoed by some U.S. Army veterans sites who are disgusted by the vile war that they were forced to wage on behalf of the September 11 lie or that of the weapons of mass destruction of Saddam Hussein [2].

    The arguments in favor of the Mossad hypothesis are not only related to the reputation of the world’s most powerful secret service, which a report by the U.S. Army School for Advanced Military Studies (quoted by theWashington Times on the eve of September 11th), described as “wildcat, ruthless and cunning. Able to carry out an attack on U.S. forces and disguise it as an act committed by Palestinians/Arabs [3].” The Mossad involvement, together with other Israeli elite units, is made evident by a number of little known facts.

  89. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Sitti,
    I have never heard anything more stupid. Soon after the attacks al Qaeda called the hijackers 'martyrs' and said that more of such attacks will follow. Was al Qaeda working for or with the Israeli intelligence service? The vast majority of hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi nationals. A fact which the Saudis have not denied. Was the custodian of muhammadanism in concert with al Qaeda and the Jewish state of Israel, the most hated nation by muhammadans in the world, to strike America? That somebody has Ph.D does not mean that he cannot be stupid. Did Alan Sabrosky give a religious breakdown of those working in the buildings struck that day to know how many of each religious affiliation attended or stayed away from work on that day? A theory is that the hijackers were 'football' players. But their teams have not been named. A muhammadan is freer to openly express his/her faith in America than he/she is in any muhammadan country. A 2010 FBI studies showed that the Jews and Christians were more persecuted in America than muhammadans. Ali Sina is as real, if not more real, than Muhammad.

  90. Sitti says:

    Understanding Ali Sina
    Attacks of September 11, 2001 to the World Trade Center and the Pentagon was a disaster for the Americans and Muslims worldwide. After the attack, the various accusations was leveled against Islam and his community. Many attacks occur against American Muslim after the incident, although this is limited to a small minority. According to a survey conducted in 2007, 53% of Muslim Americans assume that become more difficult to be a Muslim (in the U.S.) after the attack. Muslim woman uses hijab / veil harassed, causing some Muslim women prefer to stay at home, while leaving the other for practice (work).
    Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D, University of Michigan) is a ten-year US Marine Corps veteran and a graduate of the US Army War College. He stated unequivocally that the intellectuals behind the bombing of the building twin September 11, 2001 is the Israeli intelligence agencies, Mossad. The evidence suggests that at the time of the WTC tragedy, no jewish WTC employees to come work on that day.
    There were 3000 jewish WTC employees took leave on that day, so it was unlikely it happened by chance. It is astonishing that dr Ali Sina using the incident as the backround of his book entitled understanding Muhammad. Reading his book, there is a deep impression that dr Ali Sina defend the Jewish nation by raising the issue of Bani Qurayza, without understanding the background that preceded it. Sometimes I get the impression, that actually there is no Ali Sina in the real world, he is just like Doraemon story, and the man behind Ali Sina is a coward who boarded popularity of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him to make his books became best seller.

  91. narcole1919721 says:

    Shollallahu 3alaihi wa sallam

  92. narcole1919721 says:

    Its so true….if u hate something too much, ull love it! the border is so thin…just like border between genius and idiot x'D

  93. narcole1919721 says:

    Lololol

  94. Sitti says:

    Rasulullah Muhammad shallallaahu `alaihi wa sallam used to rides on camels, mules, donkeys, and sometimes he used to ride on them together with somebody else.
    He used to service his visitors and his sahabas and declare, “ The highest ones  of a society  are those who make service.”
    He has never been seen laughing  loudly. He used to smile. Sometimes his bless  front teeth used to be seen while he was laughing.
    He had always been seen thoughtful and worried. He used to talk little. He used to talk little. He used begin to talk by smiling.
    He never used to say anything that was useless and unnecessary. When it was necessary to talk, he used to talk short, useful and clearly in meaning. He used to repeat it three times in order to be understood plainly.
    He used to joke with foreighners, friends, children, and with old women. But these wouldn`t  cause him to forget Allaahu ta`alaa for only a moment.

  95. Sitti says:

    You hate Islam today, hopefully you love Islam, and Rasulullah Muhammad shallallaahu `alaihi wa sallam  next time, as Umar Bin Khotob. Distance between hate and love is so short., isn`t it?

  96. Sitti says:

    Rasulullah Muhammad peace be upon him used to patch his unstitched and torn clothes himself. He used to milk his sheep and feed his animals too.He used to take home the things which he bought from the bazaar by himself. In travelling, he used to feed the animals and sometimes he used to groom them, too. Sometimes, he used to do these by himself and sometimes with the help of his servants.
    When the servants of somebody had called him, having adapted himself to the customs of Medina, he used to walk with them hand by hand.
    He used to visit patients and even be present on their funerals. He also used to visit the patients of disbelievers.

  97. Rafiq says:

    One day future generations will llok back upon the existence of these evil cults, misoginy, intolerance etc, in our civilizations as we now look back upon the existence of slavery, racism, capital punishment etc !!! Islam will perish by the end of this century at most !

  98. NabiCabul says:

    Hello Agracean,
    If you just telling people to accept Jesus Christ then what is the different between you and muslim? Muslim also tells people to believe in Muhammad and his Allāh. Believe me, that will not works. Telling someone's religion a lie and asking them to believe in your faith will only make her/him upset. Muslim already do that and as we know, their method fail to work. People get upset with Islam instead of converting to Islam.
    Action speaks louder than words. Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. That will makes someone respect you and eventually your faith.

  99. Momo says:

    Hell,
    You don't know how language works. It is just a personification, you can't interpret it just like that. You still need to learn more about language so that you can understand and interpret it correctly. For example, I can always say "The moon is smiling in this beautiful night." then you think that "what?? are you really crazy to believe that the moon can smile?" No, no, you don't understand language just like that. You know language is so very very creative. You can always do anything with language. That's why those who want to interpret language should learn the nature of Arabic language.

  100. Momo says:

    Ali Sina,

    Don't worry too much, Allah will forgive you. You said to me through email that you are feeling guilty for insulting Islam and you regret it. And you don't know how to repent.

    Just believe me that God is all forgiving. He will forgive you.

  101. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Chuck,
    Jawhol!
    Zitouni shows the typical muhammadan bent.

  102. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Guest,
    They are particularly happy when they live outside muhammadan enclaves. You see them arriving in droves at Western border crossings grinning from ear to ear for escaping the hell which was their former home. The flow of muhammadan asylum seekers will never dry up or even slow down.

  103. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Chuck,
    This is no kidding stuff. It is pretty hilarious but very up to the point. The muhammadans should pay the West enormously to bomb them out of existence in this world and into their hereafter. In spite of all their trumpeting the perfect nature of the next world, almost all of them do not want an early exit from this world. That was the attitude of their prophet who refused to seize the opportunity when one was offered at Uhud. They will always prefer to stay back while urging the ignorant and gullible to go. Why would anyone who has free access to 72 virgins and innumerable non virgins not be in a hurry to meet them?

  104. chuck says:

    @I-HATE-ISLAM
    Dankeschon!!

    I actually am liking this discussion with Zitouni who is far better than Shabeer. While Shabeer is all rubbish, Zitouni does seem to understand what he is writing.

  105. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Chuck,
    Good job. But the muhammadans, who are always self-centered and opinionated, will never see the fault in their evil which they consider to be proper. Nothing is more vile than muhammadanism.

  106. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Zitouni,
    80% of the rank and file and 50% of the officers are Berbers while the Arabs constitute 20% of the lower ranks and 50% of the officer corps. Very interesting statistical data. The Berbers labor while the Arabs command. That is muhammadan sense of fairness.
    The Janjaweed, which I understand quite fittingly means 'devils on horses', do not consider themselves as blacks but as Arabs.
    Muslims do not know genocide because in their teaching " KILLING THE UNBELIEVER IS A SMALL THING TO US" as expressed by a prominent muhammadan scholar. Allah enjoined its 'prophet' to make wide slaughter with no serious thought to the taking of captives. That is why genocide does not form part of the muhammadan's lexicon.
    Thomas C. Mountain, who authored the article under reference, lived in Eritrea which has territorial dispute with Ethiopia. It is a question of the piper playing the tune of the payer. If, as he said, peace has returned to Darfur, why are the people still living in refugee camps? Mountain wrote on Ethiopian genocide in the Ogaden region and South Somalia without proffering a single evidence. Not even a complete moron can count on such a jaundiced 'report'. To rubbish the worthless piece further, he failed to mention any wrong doing by the janjaweed who are armed and financed by al-Bashir. It is little wonder that you are captivated by such a 'report'.
    I responded to your so-called link on Nigerian Christians allegedly cannibalizing muhammadans.
    Muhammadans are murderous and inhuman.

  107. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Zitouni,
    Matthew 5:5 does not seek to deprive anyone of his land. It says 'the meek shall inherit the earth". Anybody can be the meek. On the other hand, Bukahri records that Muhammad went to the Jews and told them that he was expelling them from their land which he then went on to claim ownership of as belonging to him and his allah.He did not do that meekly but with the threat of using violence should the victims hesitate.Your brainless skull will not allow you to know the difference since to you forcible eviction means divine right of inheritance.
    If occupying part of someone's territory is acceptable, why are you sulking about military bases which are only a few square hectares in size? If it was good for the muhamadans to occupy even an inch of European territory, then it is perfectly alright for muhammadan territories to be occupied by the Europeans or their descendants. You should not complain for being given a dose of your own medicine. Unfortunately, there is no European occupation of muhammadan land.
    What do you know about the Crusades? They were not for territorial gains but were a defense to 462 years of non-stop muhammadan vandalism in the Holy Land. The Christian populations killed by the muhammadans or enslaved by them were from that same region. There was no order for the Crusaders to attack or conquer Arabia or destroy the kaaba. Muhammadans have always been expansionist with insatiable appetite for what belongs to others.That sets them apart from other people.

    Alexander the Great fought the Persians who had conquered Greece and Egypt. That was how he found his way into Egypt. The Persians conquered Egypt in 525 BC and ruled for 193 years. But before them the Assyrians, who came from Mesopotamia, now Iraq, had conquered Egypt in 669 BC. The occupation of Egypt by Alexander the Great was because of its being a province of Persia.
    When the Romans conquered Egypt in 30 BC, there was no Christianity then.
    The Arabs who brought muhammadanism to North Africa are as foreign, if not more foreign, than the Europeans. Their occupation of African land cannot be justified. Gaddafi had even called for more Arabs to move in and occupy more African land in his address to the Arab League in Amman, Jordan in 2001. Arab quest for lebensrum in Africa is unabated as 2/3 of the Arab population live in the continent.
    If the CIA installs and keeps all the regimes in the muhammadan world, then it is a great organization which should be respected. But that is not the case. Holding election is a sign of democracy and it does not jive with sharia. The former is said to be man made while the latter is from allah according to muhammadan logic. Forcing or advocating strongly for any of these countries to hold election will generate protests of interference in the internal affairs of allah's country from the like of you. It is a dilemma for muhammadans.
    Until the Berbers produce the king of Morocco, they remain second class citizens. What positions do they hold in govt or the armed forces which you claim they constitute the majority among the officers and other ranks? Are they the service chiefs or in command of strategic formations?

    I compared apartheid as it existed in South Africa with the situation of the indigenous people of North Africa. You said it is 'ludicrous' without saying why or refuting the charge. That charge still remains.

  108. chuck says:

    //Here we have Jesus is saying the eart belong to the meek so why you have problem if prophet Muhamed say that . //

    Because Muhammad wasn't meek. Read the hadith again "the prophet came out and said, 'LET US GO TO THE JEWS'–HE SAID TO THEM–YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THE EARTH BELONGS TO ALLAH AND HIS APOSTLE, AND I WANT TO EXPEL YOU FROM THIS LAND–"'." He isn't saying that the Earth belongs to poor and meek in this narration.

    //This happened after Crusaders came to midles east . Why you do not talk about them uh tell me //
    This happenned in 1529 I think and this wasn't in response to any crusades. There is gap of 250 years between this and the ninth crusade. In both the Ottomon-Hungarian wars and the Habsburg-Ottoman campaigns the Ottomon's were the aggressors.

    Next about the crusades themselves. Why do you think they were fought in the first place? We can start with the very first in 1095.

  109. Demsci says:

    Zitouni, I just found out that Anas Ibn (or Bin) Malik was mentioned in one of Bukhari's sahih hadiths from the ninth century. But the question about him is roughly the same; Why do you trust Bukhari for the full 100 %

    in the ABSENCE of earlier sources and evidence and

    in the PRESENCE of alternative theories (alternative to the theories presented by Hadiths-Sira), that cover the facts better and more logical?

  110. chuck says:

    @Zitouni,
    //Koran was written and memorised from day number one of prophet ministery. What do you think that dozen of Prophet scripes were writing for Muhamed ? poestry . silly argument//
    Your argument about Hadeeth was silly, I was using your own argument to show where it leads us vis-a-vis Quran. Also do you have a written material dating back to those days that you refer. NO.

    //Thats your logic not mine //
    That was YOUR logic on your judgement on hadeeth collections, I simple extrapolated that for Muhammad's biography. Unlike you I don't believe that a written record is necessary for an anthology be dated in a given period. I certainly believe that Muhammad existed and the Quran was written before the last extant source that we now have.

    //But they were known and circulated verbally until Bukahri wrote them down //
    But that doesn't mean that there was no Sunnah before these were actually written. Your claim "Hadiths were written about 200 yrs after the death of prophet if you are saying no Islam without them then tell me how Muslims were practising islam before Hadiths were written?" is an epic failure in subjugating the position Demsci took when he said "Whether or not you believe in all or some of the hadiths is your problem. What is obvious is that without them muhammadanism has nothing to stand on as far as the life of Muhammad is concerned. And the sunnah of Muhammad is the third leg that keeps muhammadanism aloft. "

    In more simpler words, Demsci is right that the hadeeth's are one of the most important pillars of Islam and you can't brush them aside, especially the Shahi ones, even if they were scripted 200 years after the actual events.

    //Thats your opinion. I said that not because she was lady. //
    Yes, its my opinion, and it is based on your unqualified judgement about Abu Bakr's alleged superior knowledge of Islam. I implored you about some evidence, but you were not forthcoming with any.

  111. Demsci says:

    Shabeer, I googled Malik Ibn Anas. And this person lived 711-795, so in the 8th century. So he does not matter much for the truth of Islam in the 7th century. But Anas Ibn Malik, he was one of the longest living companions of Muhammad, 609-714 AD. He participated in the conquests of the Arabs we are told.

    But you wrote:
    //"Al-Bukhari recorded that Anas bin Malik said,
    "The Messenger of Allah gave a speech unlike anything I heard before. In this speech, he said, "//

    Do you acknowledge that the hadith about Anas Bin Malik was one of the few thousand hadiths that Bukhari SELECTED, but only in the NINTH century? You very probably cannot produce evidence from before ninth century about Anas Bin Malik and very probably there is no evidence of him being the companion of Muhammad before Bukhari.

    I do not say that everything is untrue in Bukhari's hadith, just that the earliest evidence is from 2 centuries after the alleged events.

  112. chuck says:

    @Demsci,
    //If you say that the reward in heaven for Muslims trumps happiness in this earthly life, then please admit as much already, //
    And if so is the case, shouldn't the muslim be thankful that the West is bombing them out of this world and into the after-world? Shouldn't the muslim nations be wiped out as an act of mercy to them? Just kidding!!

  113. Demsci says:

    Zitouni, I googled Malik Ibn Anas. And this person lived 711-795, so in the 8th century. So he does not matter much for the truth of Islam in the 7th century. But Anas Ibn Malik, he was one of the longest living companions of Muhammad, 609-714 AD. He participated in the conquests of the Arabs we are told. And I daresay that he probably was historical and doing just that. But WHEN were the oldest references to his companionship with Muhammad written? Did Ibn Ishaq write about THAT part first? How can you trust Ibn Ishaq on everything he wrote? When there is an alternative theory around that fits the known data better?

    In my beloved science the idea is that searching for the highest truth mankind can find about any issue is of paramount importance. And if a theory is challenged by a better theory, better in accordance with all the known facts and with good logic, then scientists and their allies throw away the lesser theory and embrace the better theory. But Muslims choose and stay with the theory they LIKE BEST, the one that Islam presents, for a 1000 years now, don;t they?

  114. Demsci says:

    From the same Nationmaster from which you quote: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/lif_hap_net-lif

    Article in Huffington Post. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/28/worlds-h

    We have often discussed the statistics that you offer Shabeer. We do not accept them on face value, because we think real occurrences of crimes as described as crimes in Western countries, are in Islamic and some other countries not recognized as crimes, less reported by police, less reported to police. You already acknowledged that.

    But if you believe YOUR statistics, why do you not believe the happiness-statistics?

    And isn't it happiness that God should want for humans? What could possibly trump the highest possible happiness for the highest possible percentage of people, in the context of lives as long as possible?

    If you say that the reward in heaven for Muslims trumps happiness in this earthly life, then please admit as much already,

    and offer humans the choice of happiness in this world without Islam or the goal of eternal happiness in the afterlife with Islam (not that we believe in that either).

  115. Sakat says:

    @Guest · where is the statistics sir ,will you provide me .No, you have misunderstood the term "Happy" and "pleasure" they are totally a different usage .The former one is macro and the later is Micro . I want your reply in this regard for further expansion about this beautiful truth.

  116. Guest says:

    How about those happy and healthy Muslim families, whose number is increasing all over the world?

  117. Demsci says:

    At Zitouni:
    //"Koran was written and memorised from day number one of prophet ministery. What do you think that dozen of Prophet scripes were writing for Muhamed ?"//

    And who exactly TOLD you that? Ibn Hisham did, in the 9th century, quoting from Ibn Ishaq, who wrote # 760. There are NO earlier references to that. And it is Ibn Ishaq who came up with Mohammed's biography, placing him in 570-632. So Ibn Ishaq wrote # 128 years after Muhammad's supposed death.

    "But they were known and circulated verbally until Bukahri wrote them down"
    We were told that Bukari collected, then SELECTED them. IN THE NINTH CENTURY! That there were hundreds of thousands of Hadiths, often made up serving political interests, enough for the lives of a hundred prophets, and that Bukari tried to find the ones that were truthful and that he selected only a few thousand of them.

    And then you come and pretend that those are the ones commemorating what this largely fictitious Muhammad exactly said and did.

    But the alternative more logical theory about the origines of Islam now is that Arabs did establish first a huge empire and that from Caliph Abd Al Malik onwards, from 691 AD, the religion of Islam was gradually "created", from all sorts of loose ends, in order to give the Arab empire a coherent leading religion, to strengthen it.

    There may be strands of truth in it, but the story as a whole is not supported by the evidence. The evidence leads us to the alternative theory. But you care more about your religion than you do about the truth or the most logical theory mankind can find.

  118. Sakat says:

    No sorry sir ,when the Muslims cover their woman with black " Burka" ,they are deprived of vital vitamin D( in that context i used the term unhygienic in my above post),you look like knowledgeable but sorry to say a sarcastic one ,that is the dilemma of a perverted Muslims.Mohammed Atta and his companions were intelligent as well ,but their intelligent was perverted like Mad Mohammed (who could not see the prosperity of hard working Jews) and so all of us were witness to its ultimate effect .I request all non believer to deliver proper massage to these useless creature's walking with us .

  119. Demsci says:

    @Zitouni. Look, Muslims like you can say to us; We think Islam is good lifestyle, good for country and also we like to be loyal to our parents, community and tradition. That I can respect.

    I would respect it even more if you Muslims said; and for those reasons we do not care if Islam and it's clerics are telling the truth about it's origine or if they are telling primarily fairytales about it's origine.

    But it seems to me that in order to stick to your beloved religion/ fairy tales you sacrifice the truth and logic. You only use logic to confirm your beloved fairytales. at the same time you keep insisting that your fairytales are the highest truth people can find.

    I say this because in the Western world ever since the late 18th century the origines of Christianity were researched with brutal honesty. And with no respect to " Christian fairytales". The Muslims did not investigate Islam with brutal honesty, but finally some Western scientists tried to do it. They were professionals, not amateurs, but Muslims do not want to give up their beloved religion, and they do not want to give up the pretense that it's story of origine really happened. So they will believe nobody, not amateurs, not professionals.

    But they will pretend that they have better evidence than the professionals and their readers, but if they try to show any, they will be beaten mercilessly. And I guess they will end up saying; but I "feel" that my belief is true. Their feeling is their most important proof.

  120. Sakat says:

    hello!! do you take trouble to define what is "information" as per you hahaha!!!!!!.

  121. zitouni says:

    hahaha is for ignorants like you when they ran out of inforamtion LOL

  122. zitouni says:

    The mafia family in Morocco happen to be Arab and its members hold sway at the expense of the Berbers. You will never admit that the mafia family could not have lorded it over the native population without the support of their Arab brothers who are very pleased with the way things are having been used to enslaving the less fortunate.

    Stupid and dumb fuuck . 80% of Moroccan army is made up of Berbers and 50% of officers are Berbers . So dummy Berbers are main protectors of regime in Morocco. There is no descrimination in Morocco concerning Berber and Arabs Moroccan see themselves as Moroccan and not as Berber or Arabs

    In Sudan the Janjaweed are not blacks.

    Thery look black to me . They are more black than black in USA

    They are Arabs and the issue is not just internal. There is a spill over into Chad. You trivialized the genocide on the people of Darfur by characterizing it as merely an internal problem.

    Muslims do not know genocide . Genocide is white man business . I do not support it for any people if there is proof that is taking place in Darfur I will be the first one to oppose it . I just do not trust white man propaganda therefore I do not buy the idea that genocide is taking place in Darfur. here is link to read remember the author is not a Muslim nor is the website

    Genocide has and is being committed by the Ethiopian regime of Meles Zenawi against the Somali people of the Ogaden, but there has been no genocide in Darfur.
    http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/08/13/bu

    Nigerian muhammadans have not said how many mosques have been burnt by Christians since 1984 when the attack on Christians was given an increased tempo. Nigerian muhammadans will not tell you how many of their towns, villages and properties have been destroyed.

    I showed you links where Nigerian christians are even eating dead Muslims .

    Are you denying that you made mention of Gaddafi giving assistance to Christians in S Sudan and Darfur when the post is there for all to see? That post mentioned both places.

    I do not know what you are talking about . I did say that he gave assistance to both you replied by saying : there was no muhammadan support for the South Sudanese. And you were wrong about it . I put you link to prove it

    No, you have not dislodged the fact that the muhammadan kills not only unlike minds but feeds on its very own. Remember Western Sahara, Mali, Niger, Mauritania.

    Christians who eat flesh of dead Muslims

  123. zitouni says:

    As for Muhamed saying the earth belong to him . I forget to bring something from your own bible since you are christian. Are you familiar with Math 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

    Here we have Jesus is saying the eart belong to the meek so why you have problem if prophet Muhamed say that .

    The muhammadans did not rest with the conquest of Spain. In 722 they crossed the Pyrenees and invaded France , seizing several towns in the south of that country.

    They ocupied some territories of France this is not the same as they ocupied all France as you claimed

    What was the objective of the muhammadan invasion of Austria which led to the siege of Vienna?

    This happened after Crusaders came to midles east . Why you do not talk about them uh tell me

    If muhammadanism existed for 200 years without the sunnah, why is it important today?

    I did not say there was no Sunna for 200 years

    There are disputes as to the events recorded in the sunnah. That is why the shiites and the rejecters refuse to accord it recognition saying that the sunnah is an invention. You have also confirmed that position.

    I never said that Sunna is an invention

    Your sense of history remains twisted. Hannibal from Carthage, in present Tunisia, had conquered Spain where he established a colony of people from his country and went on to conquer what is now France.

    Hanibal was neither a Muslim nor he was an Arab . If you want to say that people from N Africa were the first to attack Europe under Hanibal then you are wrong because Alexander is much older than Hanibal and his conquest went far beyond N Africa and Midlle east he reached India and Afghanistan

    The Roman conquest came much after.

    I brought Romans because they were christians

    And even before the Romans the Persians had conquered and occupied Europe.

    Persians did that when they were not Muslims

    You agree that the muhammadans are war mongers who invaded Europe and elsewhere in pursuit of expansionism.

    No they are not . They had to fight imperialist Europeans who used to ocupy N Africa and Midle east . Europeans such as crusader who had no business of being there becasue they belong to Europe since they did not get message they kept coming back so Muslims had to take the fight to them in Europe itself

    The West has not unilaterally set up any military base. Any facility they have built has been with the approval of the host country and in almost all cases payment is made for those facilities.

    Aproval of CIA pupet regime LOL very funny . What do you expect a pupet to say to his mater NO are you drunk thats why we call him puppet . those regime are client state made by CIA they do not represent their people thats why there is no election. If Obama approve instaltion of chinese , Cuban , N Korean or Iranian bases in USA he would be hang on the white house door steep from his ass by Anerican people. Plus those regime not only they give military bases , but they pay for all military expenses on the other hand US pays from its pocket to defend Japan and S Korea .

    There are many books on the muhammadan brigandage in Europe. Avail yourself of some.

    There are many books on Islmaic civiisation in Europe read some of them

    Because Berbers ruled Morocco in the past, they are to be consigned permanently to second class status.

    There is no such a thing as second class status in Morocco

    The white man's apartheid in South Africa ended about two decades ago but that of the muhammadans in North Africa will remain in perpetuity. There is no evil greater than muhammadanism.

    Comparing apartheid with N Africa is ludicrous

    continue

  124. Hell/heavenonearth says:

    /Do not steal from booty/ To have booty is a great sin because it was robbed from other people.
    WAH HAHAHAHA!

  125. zitouni says:

    Demsci said : Last year Robert Spencer wrote: "Did Muhammad exist?". And in it he tells us about the LACK of sources, evidence for the name Muhammad, Islam and even the Quran before approx. 691, and further on, as you say, in 200 years time, is stunning. The autobiography of Mohammed by ibn ishaq only originates from around 760!!!

    Robert Spencer is buisiness man he makes money by making fun of people like you. For years he has been saying that Muhamed did this and that , he was pedpphile and now he shows up with book that Muhamed did not exist . What I found funny that Spencer has no propblem about the existence of Jesus even though there is less information about him compare to Muhamed . Spencer was asked in debate if he knows the difference between Anas Ibn Malik and Malik Ibn Anas he was speechless he start fambling he did not know the difference this proof that somebody . There is no way for him to ignore these historical figure on Islamic faith . I guess christian Arab write book for him and spencer just put his name on them

    We can theorize, just as you conveniently assume all Muslim scholars tell you is true without real evidence, that Islam only gradually arose.

    First go to school become an expert on the subject then you can theorise . We do not and body accept theories made by amateurs

    Of course some details might be true enough, but the Islamic story is NOT supported by evidence. There is lack of evidence for it and contradicting evidence against it. For instance; a coin with the name Muhammad AND a cross on it.

    History of Islam has much more evidence than any ancient history

  126. Hell/heavenonearth says:

    If it is from the true God, then he is doing a wonderful job of purification of sins and impurities by making them fight and killed each others to cancel out their sins. YOU REAP WHAT YOU AND YOUR ANCESTORS HAD SOW.
    The millions of muslim refugees are living in hell-like conditions (suffering from sicknesses, hot & cold) in the camps with little food and clean water, While the Arab oil tycoons are living in heaven-like conditions with wine, women and songs and with millions of USD to splurge around.
    Look like hell and heaven existed side by side on earth.
    You can write a million pages of your teachings and it will never change a thing about God's work.

  127. Guest says:

    Shabeer,

    That's OK. Nobody's perfect. People make mistakes. However, since there are possible differences in opinion in Islam I thought our friend might have seen an opinion which says that Muslims perform hajj twice a year. That's why I asked for his source.

  128. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shabby,
    Is hajj not one of the pillars of muhamadanism? Why would its performance discourage someone who asked questions about it to the extent of his having to abandon muhammadanism? If it is not compulsory, the simple thing will be to explain to the questioner that it is to be performed if affordable.
    None of you has explained why muhammadanism discourages questions being asked. The truth remains that answer to questions on many aspects of the cult will be quite damning.

  129. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Guest,
    I have neighbors and colleagues who go to Mecca and Medina twice a year. They say that the trips are for the umra and the hajj. I believe umra is what you call the lesser hajj. To my knowledge no other activity apart from muhammadanism takes place in Mecca and Medina. If it turns out that those trips are not for the purposes claimed, then it is not my place to police the travelers to ensure conformity.
    I am also told that every muhammadan wishes to die in Mecca so that he/she can go straight to paradise. Given the sensuality of the muhammadan hereafter, why would it be surprising that everyone of you long to die in Mecca where a direct passport opens the way to those who have not attained martyrdom?

  130. shabeer says:

    # according to the united nations statistics…………………….PROVE WITH EVIDENCE

    I SAY NO

    EVIDENCE :
    Total crimes (most recent) by country

    RANK COUNTRIES AMOUNT

    #1 United States:11,877,218
    # 2 United Kingdom:6,523,706
    # 3 Germany:6,507,394
    #4 France:3,771,850
    #5 Russia:2,952,370
    #6 Japan:2,853,739
    #7 South Africa:2,683,849
    #8 Canada:2,516,918
    #9 Italy:2,231,550
    #10 India:1,764,630
    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri-cri
    NON ISLAMIC COUNTRIES ARE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF CRIME COMPARE TO ISLAMIC COUNTRIES THE FOLLWING LINK GIVES U MORE DETAILS REPORT:
    http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countriehttp://rechten.uvt.nl/icvs/images/Graph03.JPG http://rechten.uvt.nl/icvs/images/graph05.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitanhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by
    UN Rape Statistics:

    RANK
    1 United States of America93883
    2 Australia 18237
    3 United Kingdom 13272
    4 France 10408
    5 Germany8766
    6 Russian Federation8185
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics http://www.yellodyno.com/pdf/Rape_Statistics.pdf
    Divorce rate (most recent) by country

    Rank Countries Amount

    #1 United States:4.95 per 1,000 people
    #2 Puerto Rico:4.47
    #3 Russia:3.36
    #4 United Kingdom:3.08
    #5 Denmark:2.81
    #6 New Zealand:2.63
    #7 Australia:2.52
    # 8 Canada:2.46 http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_div_rat-peo

    List of countries by alcohol consumption:

    Moldova18.22
    Czech Republic16.45
    Hungary16.27
    Russia15.76
    Ukraine15.60
    Estonia15.57 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by

    LIKE THAT…………….
    Assault victims (most recent) by country http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_ass_vic-cri
    Car thefts (most recent) by country http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_car_the-cri
    Murders with firearms (most recent) by country http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir
    Suicide rates in ages 25-34 (most recent) by country http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_sui_rat_in_
    Gun violence : Homicides &homicides with firearms http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_gun_vio_hom
    Suicide rates in ages 15-24 (most recent) by country http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_sui_rat_in_

    'World's Largest' Online Pedophile Ring Smashed In Europe http://yellodyno.com/Statistics/statistics_child_
    Child sex tourism :

    Thailand : 40% of prostitutes are child in Thailand
    Northern Italy: 40% of prostitution affects minors.
    Cambodia: 1/3 of prostitutes are child
    India : 1.2 million child prostitutes
    Brazil: 1.2 million child prostitutes
    United States: Between 244,000 to 325,000 child prostitutes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sex_tourism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_of_chilhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse

  131. Guest says:

    In the case of the Philippines, it is the Christian Filipinos who call the conversion into Islam a 'come back' This is what I was told by a Filipino friend.

  132. shabeer says:

    @Hell/heavenonearth & Hell/heavenonearth………………………..

    ISLAM THE RELIGION OF GOD ,GOD INTRODUCED 25 PROPHET AS IDEAL TO ALL HUMAN BEING …………………..100 OF SAHABA IS THERE FOR IDEAL CHARACTER,THAT IS SOME PEOPLE AROUND PAKISTAN,AFGHAN,SYRIA NEVER & EVER CLAIMED TO BE IDEAL PERSONALITY…………….PLZ STUDY ISLAM FROM ITS AUTHORIZED EVIDENCE ,THERE R 1.7 BILLION MUSLIMS IS THERE AROUND THE WORLD ,LOT OF PEACE KEEPERS,CONDUCTING CHARITY FOR POOR ,BEHAVING KINDLY TO ALL PEOPLE ,LIVING WITH GOOD MANNERS & IDEAL CHARACTERS,NO ONE MENTIONED HERE ,HOW CAN SMALL PERCENTAGE OF CRUEL PEOPLE BECOME IDENTITY OF ISLAM,EVEN TRUE MUSLIM TOO HATE THEM MORE THAN U……………………………….PLZ STOP FOOLISHNESS ………………..

    Malik :: Book 21 : Hadith 21.3.10
    Do not kill women or children or an aged, weak person,Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees.Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty,
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 320
    Not to join anything in worship along with Allah, (2) Not to steal, (3) Not to commit illegal sexual intercourse, (4) Not to kill your children, (5) Not to accuse an innocent person (to spread such an accusation among people), (6) Not to be disobedient (when ordered) to do good deeds.
    Prohibit killing with unjust:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 92 :: Hadith 423
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 37
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 17
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 2,3,6,9
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 840
    Bloodshed completely prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 4,7 ,8
    People blood & properties, were honors and protected/sacred like Mecca:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 88 :: Hadith 199
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 81 :: Hadith 776

  133. chuck says:

    @Guest,
    //Even if it is only a few converts, it is a testimony that the religion can really deliver them to a happier state.//
    That goes without saying and not only with a religion. I am sure Hitler was happy with Nazism and Muhammad was happy with Islam. Some people would be genuinely happy with their religious believe or what they believe is their correct understanding of their religion. It is what the religious or political or economic view (in fact any view with a sociological impact) delivers ON THE GROSS SCALE that matters.

  134. Guest says:

    Even if it is only a few converts, it is a testimony that the religion can really deliver them to a happier state.

  135. Guest says:

    Demsci, you are right. There are possibilities for people to be happy and healthy while being a Muslim/Muslimah. You mentioned one possibility, that is being with loved one. I think there are others — even merely being a Muslim can also derive hapiness and health. I have seen Pakistani families which are happy, healthy and successful — and they live in Pakistan. Many of these happy families also live in Australia, which has been declared to be the happiest country in the world for 2013.

  136. Demsci says:

    Also, can;t it be that the converting people converted because of being lovesick with a Muslim? So then their choice would be; Without Islam means without my loved one, Within Islam means being united with my loved one? Maybe their happiness and health derives from that?

  137. Demsci says:

    @Guest, it is you that brings up the issue of happiness and health in relation to Islam. after Shabeer brought up video's of non-Muslims seemingly happily converting to Islam.

    Well, Individuals may be happy and healthy (converting) inside Islam. Who knows what shit life they had before, so Islam looked better?

    But in the context of countries, whole populations, the happiest and healthiest countries, according to the united nations statistics, are not Islamic (often totalitarian) countries, but the democratic, free countries, like the scandinavian and anglo-saxon countries, and holland and Switzerland. Israel too ranks very high and above all Islamic countries.

  138. Demsci says:

    Guest wrote:
    "The same can be said about Spanish colonization of the Philippines, where they managed to convert a significant majority of Muslims to Catholicism. You may be surprised to know that Filipinos call it "come back" when a Filipino converts to Islam. This has nothing to do with the word "revert" used by Muslim in the West when a Christian becomes a Muslim."

    So, by that token, or that logic, we can call Muslims who convert to Christianity in many cases also "COME-BACKS". Because Muslims conquered vast amounts of Christian lands; Syria, Palestine, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco. Later on, the Turks conquered Byzantine empire. and I am sure this list is not complete yet.

    Inside these conquered areas the many Christians did not die out, but they and their descendants; well, the Muslims "managed to convert them to Islam", especially by the foul means of jizya-injustice and second-class-citizenship of Christians under Muslims.

    So if in the above-mentioned countries Muslims become Christians, please call them COME-BACKS too. And if in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh Muslims become Hindus or Buddhists please call THEM COME-BACKS too.

  139. Demsci says:

    Zitouni:
    //"Who helped that sob to stay in power for that long "'//

    you keep saying things like Western governments or perhaps big corporations keeping tyrants in the Islamic world in power.

    As if you know some very good alternative for tyrants like Mubarak.

    Before 1991 the ONLY alternative for a tyrant in the Islamic world supported by the West was a tyrant supported by the East (Soviet Union), NOT BETTER.

    When USA finally removed 2 VERY tyrannical regimes in the Islamic world with the aim of making Afghanistan and Iraq democratic and modern, then there was no end of protests from the Muslims! Like you Zitouni.

    When USA supported the tyrannical (but modern) Shah, Iran at least was relatively prosperous and free. The Islamic regime that came after HIM, certainly was a much worse alternative, killed many more than he ever did.

    So; when the West would not support bloody tyrants, you tell me what better alternatives can you point to? Even under Morsi, of the Islamic brotherhood, Egypt seems to be much worse of, then under Mubarak. Who by the way, was abandoned by USA. And Egypt under Morsi is still receiving military and economic aid!!!

    Your Islamic propaganda story is not true and not logical.

  140. Hell/heavenonearth says:

    What is a few converts compared to the hundred thousands are dead or dying in Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, Mynmar, and other muslim countries with sectarian violence? Millions of them had died in the ME wars since the day they had purchased weapons including chemical weapons. from the West. Wah hahahah!

  141. Guest says:

    Looking at her appearance she is kind of independent minded person. What if she insists that she is happy and healthy?

  142. Sakat says:

    @Guest
    Absolutely no Sir, ex. just peep into yesterdays news of Pakistan.How ruthlessly the Muslims have massacred innocent girl students.They blast their University bus killing 11 girls spontaneously,when the injured were shifted to hospital they chase them their too ,now you tell me am i wrong or right .

  143. Guest says:

    Sakat,

    Do you see any possibility of the woman remaining in Islam healthy and happy?

  144. gannareddy says:

    Do what is correct , what is in the interest of peace loving human beings. Though Ali sina is a great thinker, he is not alone. nor is he here without a higher power guiding him( whether he knows it or not he is part of a grand plan ). Many have come before him and many more will come after him ( though I wish a long and healthy innings to Dr.Ali Sina). Read about the sacrifices of Guru Arjan Dev, Guru TeghBahadur, Guru Gobind Singh, Banda bahadur and many lakhs of unknown warriors and get inspired to fight against Islam

  145. gannareddy says:

    Dear Saket

    Budha taught in 19th century B.C. (1887 B.C. to 1807 B.C.) Adi Sankara refuted the various Budhist schools of thought during 5th century B.C (509 B.C to 477 B.C.). The present chronology is partly due to the limitations of the 18th century British colonial scholars and partly due to deliberate colonial policy of belittling the indian past to suppress the hindu psyche . search for dates of Budha , Adi sankara and kota venkatachalam you'll get further details

  146. gannareddy says:

    Reply to just a reader

    "I do not know why Muslims think that we Hindus believe in many gods, we also believe in one god which is omnipresent and omniscient consciousness which in Sanskrit is called Brahman and everything that we see, feel, do not see and do not feel is all manifestation of that–"

    Muslims have always been sexmaniacs. It is the sex mania which motivated mohammad to invent the lie of Allah and qoran. It is only a pretext to call others wrong and attack them and confiscate their wealth and women. If the Arabs of 7th century had been true advaitins worshipping the formless Brahman, Mohammad would have called it wrongand declared Idolworship as the correct way to attain Brahman. He then would have declared war on the Advaitins in the name of saguna Brahma and confiscated their wealth and women

  147. Guest says:

    What I understand from my limited reading, no Muslims do hajj twice a year. What is the source of this?

  148. Sakat says:

    @shabeer ·
    Unless a person experience electrocution he/she don't feel its gravity/danger ,the same can be applied here to this woman ,Kafira experienced electrocuting many time ,now she knew it very well and so has maintained safe distance from it as well warning others to maintain safe distance from it .Poor and ignorant lady,only we can sympathize with her .I pity for her future dark and unhygienic life.

  149. Sakat says:

    @zitouni
    !!!hahahaha!!! , this term will work as good flavor ,when you have been served with bad curry. Do you know the meaning of word debate ,first go and make some research upon that term . You are rampantly using words here ,without knowing their meaning at all.I am witness to your marathon debate with Mr Chuck and its out come as well .Hahaha.

  150. Demsci says:

    In that case Zitouni, why is this verse in the Quran? Is Allah telling humans things they already say routinely? And thus Him not giving humans valuable information with this verse? What possible divine purpose can it serve?

  151. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Zitouni,
    The mafia family in Morocco happen to be Arab and its members hold sway at the expense of the Berbers. You will never admit that the mafia family could not have lorded it over the native population without the support of their Arab brothers who are very pleased with the way things are having been used to enslaving the less fortunate.
    In Sudan the Janjaweed are not blacks. They are Arabs and the issue is not just internal. There is a spill over into Chad. You trivialized the genocide on the people of Darfur by characterizing it as merely an internal problem. Such is part of the orchestrated plan to effect what Hitler called 'lebensrum' by wiping out the blacks and letting the Arabs take over their land. It is a grand design to gradually exterminate the black race. In your calculation, once the tag 'internal problem' is put on it, then everyone will hands off and allow the deed to be taken to its desired conclusion.
    Nigerian muhammadans have not said how many mosques have been burnt by Christians since 1984 when the attack on Christians was given an increased tempo. Nigerian muhammadans will not tell you how many of their towns, villages and properties have been destroyed. They will not tell you that there are Christian terrorist groups who have vowed to wipe out muhammadans and muhammadanism. The reason the Nigerian muhamadans will not tell you these things is because they have no facts and figures. Since facts are lacking, by true muhammadan law, it is not only permissible but laudable to lie, cheat and even murder all those who are not muhammadans and then accuse the victims of being the culprits. There is no gainsaying that the muhammadan is an expert when it comes to jihad, including the jihad of the pen. Nigerian muhammadans are waging this pen war. The latest round of mayhem started after the last presidential election when a Christian won. Before then some muhammadans had boasted that should their candidate lose, they will make the country ungovernable. Have your muhammadan friends told you that? They will only tell you what is music in your ears.
    Are you denying that you made mention of Gaddafi giving assistance to Christians in S Sudan and Darfur when the post is there for all to see? That post mentioned both places.
    No, you have not dislodged the fact that the muhammadan kills not only unlike minds but feeds on its very own. Remember Western Sahara, Mali, Niger, Mauritania.

  152. chuck says:

    @Zitouni,
    //There are two type of Sunna written one and acting ones. Hadiths were written about 200 yrs after the death of prophet if you are saying no Islam without them then tell me how Muslims were practising islam before Hadiths were written? //
    1. As Demsci points, evidence of a real written Quran dates back to about 690 AD while Muhammad's first biography was scripted not before 750 AD, so by your convoluted logic, there was no Quran and no Muhammad before 690 AD 🙂
    2. Hadiths are hearsay, neither 'hearing' nor 'saying' actually requires things to be written. So what if somebody didn't think about actually writing them down.

    //Abu Bakr knows Islam better that Fatima//
    Off-course thats' a misogynist Islamic position. You have any evidence supporting your claim?

  153. OMO says:

    If we are in doubt of anything,it is no crime to ask for more clarification concerning it.So all religions must give room for doubt and questioning.

  154. chuck says:

    @zitouni,
    //Damn I must be an excellent debater because any time I engage kafir in debate I made him ran out of trick , deception and lies and they start talking nonsense LOL//
    The last discussion I had with you regarding authorization of rape of war captives, it were you who dropped off. "excellent debater ", I bet!!

  155. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shabby,
    What is the meaning of all this jabbering? On the one hand you said someone asked about who his father was and on the other some other person asked about hajj being an annual event. If making hajj an annual event was capable of causing dissatisfaction, why is it performed twice yearly- the lesser and the greater?
    Stop confusing yourself. The verse means exactly what it says: there is no room for questions in muhammadanism.

  156. Demsci says:

    Zitouni, you asked:
    "There are two type of Sunna written one and acting ones. Hadiths were written about 200 yrs after the death of prophet if you are saying no Islam without them then tell me how Muslims were practising islam before Hadiths were written? "

    That is a very good question and it was addressed too, by Gerd Puin, John Wansbrough, and a few other scientific researchers.

    Last year Robert Spencer wrote: "Did Muhammad exist?". And in it he tells us about the LACK of sources, evidence for the name Muhammad, Islam and even the Quran before approx. 691, and further on, as you say, in 200 years time, is stunning. The autobiography of Mohammed by ibn ishaq only originates from around 760!!!

    We can theorize, just as you conveniently assume all Muslim scholars tell you is true without real evidence, that Islam only gradually arose.

    That the Arabs prophited from weaknesses of the Byzantines and Persians and because of that created a great empire (this is not in dispute). But initially NOT inspired by the Islam we now know. That arose much later. And because of that probably is not based on true occurrences and testimonies, at least as far as the basics are concerned. Of course some details might be true enough, but the Islamic story is NOT supported by evidence. There is lack of evidence for it and contradicting evidence against it. For instance; a coin with the name Muhammad AND a cross on it.

  157. shabeer says:

    # whitewashed story. Just like 9/11 was an inside job…………………?????????????
    1000 OF QUESTIONED UNANSWERED?
    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911q.ht

    40 QUESTION
    http://911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155

    NO

    AT LEAST 10?
    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/The-1

    ONLY ONE?
    Missing 2.3 Trillion Dollars is one of the main causes for 9/11
    Donald Rumsfeld admitted $2.3 Trillion missing on 9/10/2001;
    one day before 9/11!!!!!!!

    $2.3 TRILLION DOLLAR MISSING ANNOUNCED JUST ONE DAY BEFORE THE 9/11 FOR WHAT?

    BEC'S THEY KNOW HOW TO HIDE THIS THEFT FROM THE PEOPLE……………….

    "A SHORT 100 OF PREY "

    1) $2.3 TRILLION DOLLAR THEFT
    2)Larry Silverstein[JEW] was paid a little over $4.5 Billion in insurance money as a result of the destruction of the WTC complex.
    3) REVENGE OF CRUSADE & JEW [ISLAMIC TERRORISM ,MUSLIM TERRORIST ,QURAN TERRORISM,JIHAD,KILLING MASS MURDERS ,MASS KILLERS,SATANIC RELIGION,ETC]
    4) UTILIZING WAR EQUIPMENT [JEWISH /US COMPANY PRODUCING 85% OF WAR EQUIPMENT]
    5) A PLACE REQUIRED FOR TRANSPORTING NATURAL RESOURCES [ SPYING THEIR MOVEMENT EITHER POLITICAL/FINANCIAL/ FROM MIDDLE EAST,RUSSIA ,CHINA& CASPIAN COUNTRY ]
    ETC

    "A SHORT 100 OF PREY "
    http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/nsa.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i06RAC6YprI
    http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it
    http://www.question911.com/linksall.htm
    http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/
    http://www.wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11
    http://www.loosechange911.com
    http://ae911truth.org/
    http://www.answering-christianity.com/911_is_the_

  158. shabeer says:

    SO GO TO HOME SLEEP WELL ,EVEN CNN & AMERICAN OFFICIALS ADMIT THE TRUTH ,WHAT MORE EVIDENCE REQUIRED MY BRO……………………………..

  159. zitouni says:

    Zakat said : hahaha.,don't go down my the throat easily sorry ,

    hahahaha how mnay time did you repeat this . Damn I must be an excellent debater because any time I engage kafir in debate I made him ran out of trick , deception and lies and they start talking nonsense LOL

  160. shabeer says:

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  161. zitouni says:

    Whether or not you believe in all or some of the hadiths is your problem. What is obvious is that without them muhammadanism has nothing to stand on as far as the life of Muhammad is concerned. And the sunnah of Muhammad is the third leg that keeps muhammadanism aloft.

    There are two type of Sunna written one and acting ones. Hadiths were written about 200 yrs after the death of prophet if you are saying no Islam without them then tell me how Muslims were practising islam before Hadiths were written?

    Abu Bakr did not deny Fatima of her father's estate out of any genuine belief that prophets did not leave inheritance for their families.

    Abu Bakr knows Islam better that Fatima

    On October 10, 732, the Frankish leader, Charles 'Martel', defeated the muhammadan army led by Emir Abd el Rahman near the French city of Tours.

    But They did not ocupied France as you claim they tried but failed

    King John 111 of Poland would stop a similar Turkish advance at the gates of Vienna. Now where are Tours and Vienna?

    Same with Austria they tried and failed

    How I wish the Europeans will retaliate now for all the indignity they suffered from the muhammadans.

    You are ignorant about History . Europeans who were the first to attack midlles east and N Africa Roman empire sound familiar to you. They were kicked by Muslims and they always tried to return so Muslim had to go after them even inside Europe that was the only language these people understood
    They returned in Crusade wars and colonial wars and today we have their military bases all over Arab world which is Muilitary ocupation .

    The muhammadan history associated with Iberia is only on destruction. There is nothing useful that those barbarians did. They pillaged and killed.

    I said dummy read history of Andalusia even Spaniard talk good about it . It has helped Europe to come out from his dark ages did you get that ignorant

    Even muhamamdan historians credit their soldiers with untold atrocities in Europe which did not discriminate between men in arms and civilians. That was what Yusuf ibn Tashfun did.

    show me where did he killed 240K

    It was not alone. In 1521 Belgrade fell to the muhammadans and during the next two centuries the population of what would later be known as Bulgaria, dropped from 4 million to 1/2 million. A good number was deported as slaves while the rest were hunted down like wild birds.

    Show me from where did you get that

    The French conquest of Algiers came in 1832 after many centuries of harassment by the Barbery states.

    That was not reason why they invaded Algeria

    You have not disputed that the Moroccan dynasty, ' that would kill anyone who tries to take power from it ", is Arab.

    So what if they are Arabs, Berbers too ruled Morocco

    Since 1591 no Barber has held the reigns of power in his own land and now he lives in fear as his life can be done way with if he demands any right.

    If they could not take power not because Arabs in Morocco would not allow it . it is dynasty would not for any one be Berber or Arab so there is discrimination there

    The American Indians have not yet produced a President but compared to the Barbers their lot is much better.

    They were whipped out from the earth they used to make 100% now they make less 1% of the population of N America. This is white man contribution of human race

    Continue

  162. shabeer says:

    This Hadith was recorded in the Two Sahihs from Sa`id.
    Al-Bukhari recorded that Ibn Abbas said,
    "Some people used to question the Messenger of Allah to mock him. One of them would ask, `Who is my father,' while another would ask, `Where is my camel,' when he lost his camel.
    Allah sent down this Ayah about them, يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَسْأَلُواْ عَنْ أَشْيَاء إِن تُبْدَ لَكُمْ تَسُؤْكُمْ (O you who believe! Ask not about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble…).''
    Imam Ahmad recorded that Ali said,
    "When this Ayah was revealed,
    وَللَّهِ عَلَى النَّاسِ حِجُّ الْبَيْتِ مَنِ اسْتَطَـعَ إِلَيْهِ سَبِيلاً
    And Hajj to the House is a duty that mankind owes to Allah, those who can bear the journey. (3:97)
    they asked, `O Allah's Messenger! Is it required every year?'
    He did not answer them, and they asked again, `Is it every year?'
    He still did not answer them, so they asked, `Is it every year?'
    He said,
    لَا، وَلَوْ قُلْتُ: نَعَمْ لَوَجَبَتْ وَلَوْ وَجَبَتْ لَمَا اسْتَطَعْتُم
    No, and had I said `yes', it would have become obligated, and had it become obligated, you would not be able to bear it.
    Allah sent down, يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَسْأَلُواْ عَنْ أَشْيَاء إِن تُبْدَ لَكُمْ تَسُؤْكُمْ (O you who believe! Ask not about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble).''
    At-Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah also recorded this Hadith.
    The apparent wording of this Ayah indicates that we are forbidden to ask about things that if one has knowledge of, he would be sorry he had asked. Consequently, it is better to avoid such questions.
    Allah's statement,
    … وَإِن تَسْأَلُواْ عَنْهَا حِينَ يُنَزَّلُ الْقُرْآنُ تُبْدَ لَكُمْ …
    But if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you.
    means, if you ask about things that you are prohibited from asking about, then when the revelation about them comes to the Messenger , they will be made plain for you, وَذَلِكَ عَلَى اللَّهِ يَسِيرٌ (Verily! That is easy for Allah). (64:7)
    Allah said next,
    … عَفَا اللّهُ عَنْهَا …
    Allah has forgiven that,
    what you did before this,
    … وَاللّهُ غَفُورٌ حَلِيمٌ ﴿١٠١﴾
    and Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Forbearing.

  163. shabeer says:

    ibn katheer translate the verses :
    O you who believe! Ask not about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble.
    This Ayah refers to good conduct that Allah is teaching His believing servants, by forbidding them from asking about useless things. Since if they get the answers they sought, they might be troublesome for them and difficult on their ears.
    Al-Bukhari recorded that Anas bin Malik said,
    "The Messenger of Allah gave a speech unlike anything I heard before. In this speech, he said,
    لَو تَعْلَمُونَ مَا أَعْلَمُ، لَضَحِكْتُمْ قَلِيلًا، وَلَبَكَيْتُمْ كَثِيرًا
    If you but know what I know, you will laugh little and cry a lot.
    The companions of Allah's Messenger covered their faces and the sound of crying was coming out of their chests.
    A man asked, `Who is my father?'
    The Prophet said, `So-and-so'.
    This Ayah was later revealed, لاَ تَسْأَلُواْ عَنْ أَشْيَاء (Ask not about things…).''
    Muslim, Ahmad, At-Tirmidhi and An-Nasa'i recorded this Hadith.
    Ibn Jarir recorded that Qatadah said about Allah's statement, يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَسْأَلُواْ عَنْ أَشْيَاء إِن تُبْدَ لَكُمْ تَسُؤْكُمْ (O you who believe! Ask not about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble),
    Anas bin Malik narrated that once, the people were questioning the Messenger of Allah until they made him angry. So he ascended the Minbar and said,
    لَا تَسْأَلُونِي الْيَوْمَ عَنْ شَيْءٍ إِلَّا بَيَّنْتُهُ لَكُم
    You will not ask me about anything today but I will explain it to you.
    So the Companions of the Messenger of Allah feared that it was the commencement of a momentous event, and I looked to my right and left and found only people who covered their faces, crying.
    An argumentative man who was said to be the son of someone other than his true father asked, "O Allah's Messenger! Who is my father?
    The Prophet said, `Your father is Hudhafah.''
    Umar stood up (when he saw anger on the Prophet's face) and said, "We accept Allah as our Lord, Islam as our religion and Muhammad as our Messenger, I seek refuge with Allah from the evil of the Fitan (trials in life and religion).''
    The Messenger of Allah said,
    لَمْ أَرَ فِي الْخَيْرِ وَالشَّرِّ كَالْيَومِ قَطُّ، صُوِّرَتْ لِي الجَنَّةُ وَالنَّارُ حَتَّى رَأَيْتُهُمَا دُونَ الْحَائِط
    I have never witnessed both goodness and evil like I have today. Paradise and the Fire were shown to me and I saw them before that wall.

  164. shabeer says:

    What is the evidence in favour of the Qur'an being a practicable
    book?
    The greatest proof for the Qur'an being a practicable book is
    the very revolution that has been wrought by it. If we examine the
    condition of Arabia before and after the revelation of the Qur'an, we
    will be convinced of the practicable nature of the Qur'an.
    It was a society which was steeped in the darkness of blind
    superstitions; which was enslaved to the addiction to wine and
    intoxicants; which showed not the least hesitation in the spilling of
    blood over senseless conflicts to assert tribal superiority; which was
    nowhere in the matter of knowledge and learning; which was ignorant
    in the field of health care; which remained backward in the field of
    agriculture; which lacked cohesiveness as a political and military bloc.
    This was the state of Arabia before the revelation of the Qur'an.
    When we look upon the Arabia after the revelation of the Qur'an,
    however, it is the picture of the standard bearers of a civilization that
    challenged, in its greatness, all the other civilizations of the day, which
    we witness. Indeed, they had attained such prominence as to stand
    higher that the Greeks who were the masters of the day in the fields
    of science and arts. Alexandria was soon replaced by Baghdad as the
    greatest centre of learning and culture. Furthermore, they now caused
    to tremble even the empires of Rome and Persia both of which had
    enjoyed the legacy of political leadership that were centuries old. The
    Arabs, who engaged in unjustifiable tribal warfare and the wanton
    spilling of blood, had now emerged as the flag bearers of unity and
    cohesiveness. Not having known what morality and immorality were,
    they now became the chief propagators of a moral code. The Holy
    Qur'an had truly succeeded in remoulding Arabian society into one
    which would prove to be a model for the whole world; and that too
    within the span of only 23 years.
    The Qur'an has, thus, been a book that enabled an entire race,
    which had been nowhere in the fields of culture and civilization, to
    attain the very pinnacle of human development within the short span
    of twenty- three years. In fact, there has not been another book that
    equals it in so transforming a whole race. The fact becomes abundantly
    clear here that there has not been any other writing like the Qur'an
    which has proved to be as practicable in guiding humanity to the path
    of righteousness.
    In reality, none of the critics of the Qur'an has been able to
    prove the non-practicability of any of the laws enshrined in it, in an
    impartial and truthful manner.

  165. catalyst@99 says:

    yes. the story of hearing azan on moon was indeed hilarious. but 1 thing that confused me was the fact that allah decided 2 show his presence on moon, instead of earth.

  166. Demsci says:

    perhaps there is truth in what you write about Ali Sina hating and insulting Islam (although not with made up reasons but true reasons).

    But consider; you are a live human, YOU are not hated, Islam is. And it is regretted that you cling to it and defend it. Why do you? Just because you were born in it? or because you want to loyal to your parents and community? Those are bad reasons. IMO the only good reason to believe in a religion is because it tells the truth. Ali Sina shows us Islam is UNTRUE.

    You cannot speak for what Muslims all over the world are taught, only about your own circle. How do you know what Imams around the world teach their Muslim audiences? It is shown here and on MEMRI TV and many websites what Imams teach their audiences, and how they hate and vilify Jews and other non-Muslims.

    And don't you agree that it is possible for good humans to "HATE" bad teachings? Which lead to death and oppression?

    And finally; are you or are you not in favor of:

    BANNING, OUTLAWING so-called "hate-speech"?

    Because "hate-speech" against abominable ideologies that teach death and destruction will then also be forbidden, causing the abominable ideologies to grow unchecked.

    You better counter what you consider "bad speech" with what you consider " good speech" and let us allow both sides to speak.

  167. Demsci says:

    Guest, To react thus is "Tu Quoque fallacy", a fault in logic.

    If Islam has bad fruits as discussed and Non-Muslims' religions had so to speak ALSO bad fruits, that does not exonerate Islam for having "bad fruits" in the first place.

    And for every thing you claim GOOD "fruits" of Islam, we can claim back that some Non-Muslims' religions had ALSO the same or bigger GOOD "fruits".

  168. Demsci says:

    I second I-Hate-Islam.

    Shabeer, please inform us when ever, in all your thousands of posts have you considered evidence "FOR TRUE RELIGION OF GOD" as valid?

    We strongly suspect that you have never done that and never will. So your question is not worth anything. For it to be worth anything you must occasionally ADMIT evidence as valid.

  169. Demsci says:

    first please acknowledge that you are only authorised to debate about

    YOUR OWN INTERPRETATION OF ISLAM. No more, no less.

    I say this because half the time when Islam-apologist assert they explain Islam, the are contradicted by some other Muslim, often very high placed, or even by scriptures, tafsir, and shafi-hanafi-hanbali-maliki, the main Islamic schools of thought.

    Or maybe you don't even know them?

  170. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Momo,
    The deadly virus is muhammadanism which has physically, emotionally and intellectually killed billions of people. For that I hate muhammadanism but I have compassion for the muhammadan who would be a normal person had he not been infested by the former.

  171. Kafira says:

    Ali Sina,

    Those who have seen Islam's shady truth are forever changed. The rest of America is continuing to keep up the "Islam is a religion of peace" refrain without further discussion. I've seen a few sparks of insight from the average American, but nothing much. If I were to go on about what I know and have witnessed first hand during my marriage to a Muslim, they'd label me a bitter "kook" and continue as they were.

    Tonight I watched a 20/20 show called "What Would You Do?" It is a candid camera show that uses actors to portray controversial situations to elicit people's reactions. This episode featured a man vehemently objecting to being served by another man who "looked" Muslim, that is, was dark and bearded and wore a white crocheted hat. Of course, they caught a young woman and a soldier berating the "hater" for being prejudiced and strongly defending the Muslim.

    "I'm fighting for religious freedom," said the soldier.

    I wish I could douse these people with cold water, really wake them up. I wish I could show them how my ex-husband jumped up and down in joy and called some friends to "share the good news" during the morning of 9/11, then went to work and pretended to be shocked and outraged in front of his co-workers. I wish I could show them what a shallow, psychotic, and narcissistic individual he was behind closed doors compared to the mild-mannered, pious individual he portrayed to the world– and to me in the beginning. I wish I could show them his latest online videos, the ones in which he looks the "perfect" picture of Islam. After our divorce, he moved out of state and has become a full-time Muslim cleric, often giving lectures at the local University and traveling out of state to hold classes. I wish I could show them what it was like living with this lunatic for six years.

    I almost didn't get away. I'm not sure if it was a "miracle" or sheer luck that set the unlikely events into motion– events that led to my getting back my freedom.

    I discovered FFI in 2002 when I was still married. It was a tremendous help and comfort to me. I believe I thanked you a few years ago for helping me cope with all the madness. Once again, thank you for being there. I wish you all the best now and in years to come.

  172. Yinyang energy says:

    Sabeer n Momo, go n visit this website : http://www.handbookforinfidels.com/Islam-on-the-R….

  173. chuck says:

    @Momo,
    //This verse was revealed because at that time there were a lot questions from sahabat to Rasulullah about the things that if they were told would distress them.//
    Who are you trying to fool. The immediately next verse says "Before you, a community asked such questions, then on that account they became disbelievers." So it can't be that asking about and then knowing about the whereabouts of their ancestors would have made them disbelievers. The key to understanding 101 is verse 102. I quote from Tafsir Ibn Kathir: "The worst criminal among the Muslims is he who asks if a matter is unlawful (or not), and it becomes unlawful because of his asking about it.". Such is the case of the moody Allah, if a tough, troublesome or trivial question is asked then Allah may decide to give a ruling that becomes hard for the believer to swallow and he can become a disbeliever. What an egoist!!

    In further explaining the verse Ibn Kathir quotes the following Hadeeth: Allah, the Most Honored, has ordained some obligations, so do not ignore them; has set some limits, so do not trespass them; has prohibited some things, so do not commit them; and has left some things without rulings, out of mercy for you, not that He forgot them, so do not ask about them.

  174. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Momo,
    There is nothing in the quran for you to teach any body. If the verse was meant for those who asked questions of Muhammad about their ancestors, it means that it is no longer relevant today. Why has it not been expunged? This is clear evidence that the quran is not relevant for all times. Its usefulness, if any at all, died with Muhammad 1400 years ago. It currently serves as the terror manual.

  175. Momo says:

    This verse was revealed because at that time there were a lot questions from sahabat to Rasulullah about the things that if they were told would distress them. For example, some sahabat asked about the condition of their ancestors after they had died. were they safe or not, were they in the hell or the paradise. If Rasul told them about it, they would feel so sad if they knew that their ancestors were in the hell.

    But they were free to ask if it does not distress them.

    I know Ali Sina has misled you into thinking that this verse forbids muslims from asking about Tauhid or Prophecy. Ali Sina is mistaken.

    Come learn quran with us, may you get Hidayah from Allah.

  176. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Steadyfriend,
    "WHICH PART OF THE QURAN SAYS THAT QUESTIONS SHOULD NOT BE ASKED…." DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?
    REPLY SPECIFICALLY AND TO THE POINT.

    Sura 5:101-102 "O YE WHO BELIEVE ! ASK NOT QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS WHICH IF MADE PLAIN TO YOU, MAY CAUSE YOU TROUBLE. SOME PEOPLE BEFORE YOU DID ASK, AND ON THAT ACCOUNT LOST THEIR FAITH".
    Muhammadanism does not deal with scientific or secular issues. So what topics, other than muhamadanism, would elicit questions whose answers will cause people to lose their faith?
    Is there any argument that there is no room for asking questions in muhammadanism?
    Face the facts and stop being a doubting Thomas.

  177. Momo says:

    Ali Sina,

    will you debate with me? I am an Islamic scholar. I'm ready to defend Islam with logic and rational thinking.

    If you are not afraid of me, please debate me. please, please …

  178. Momo says:

    You mean Al-Maidah: 101?

    This verse was revealed because at that time there were a lot questions from sahabat to Rasulullah about the things that if they were told would distress them. For example, some sahabat asked about the condition of their ancestors after they had died. were they safe or not, were they in the hell or the paradise. If Rasul told them about it, they would feel so sad if they knew that their ancestors were in the hell.

    But they were free to ask if it does not distress them.

    I know Ali Sina has misled you into thinking that this verse forbids muslims from asking about Tauhid or Prophecy. Ali Sina is mistaken.

    Come learn quran with us, may you get Hidayah from Allah.

  179. Momo says:

    You mean Al-Maidah: 101?

    This verse was revealed because at that time there were a lot questions from sahabat to Rasulullah about the things that if they were told would distress them. For example, some sahabat asked about the condition of their ancestors after they had died. were they safe or not, were they in the hell or the paradise. If Rasul told them about it, they would feel so sad if they knew that their ancestors were in the hell.

    But they were free to ask if it does not distress them.

    I know Ali Sina has misled you into thinking that this verse forbids muslims from asking about Tauhid or Prophecy. Ali Sina is mistaken.

    Come learn quran with us, may you get Hidayah from Allah.

  180. Momo says:

    steadyfriend

    please come back to human, don't be satan. If you follow Ali Sina you will be satan.

  181. Momo says:

    from you name, I can see you have been infected by the virus ALI SINA. It seems like he has successfully spread the teaching of HATRED. And you (I-HATE-ISLAM) one of those who has been infected.

    Please back to human, don't be satan. Cause I love you brother.

  182. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shabby,
    I do not have time to endlessly feed your infantile indulgence. The matter you raised above has been answered by me before. I will not waste my time on your merry- go- round.

  183. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Momo,
    The real satan died 1400 years ago and was buried in Medina.

  184. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Yinyang energy,
    Very good. That shows the muhammadan propensity for bubbles. There are no substances.

  185. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Zitouni,
    Whether or not you believe in all or some of the hadiths is your problem. What is obvious is that without them muhammadanism has nothing to stand on as far as the life of Muhammad is concerned. And the sunnah of Muhammad is the third leg that keeps muhammadanism aloft.
    Abu Bakr did not deny Fatima of her father's estate out of any genuine belief that prophets did not leave inheritance for their families. Fatima and Aisha, Abu Bakr's daughter, never saw eye to eye. After that encounter, Fatima did not speak to Abu Bakr again until she died six months later from being tormented by Aisha and her father. To show the animosity which prevailed, Ali secretly buried Fatima in the night soon after her death before informing Abu Bakr. The antagonism would post date Abu Bakr culminating in a costly war between Aisha's forces and those of Ali. 10,000 muhammadans would die in the conflict. There was more to the rejection of Fatima's demand than religious inclination.
    On October 10, 732, the Frankish leader, Charles 'Martel', defeated the muhammadan army led by Emir Abd el Rahman near the French city of Tours. Rahman was killed in the battle and the defeat stopped the northward advance of muhammadanism from the Iberian peninsula. King John 111 of Poland would stop a similar Turkish advance at the gates of Vienna. Now where are Tours and Vienna? Have you not been told in elementary geography that they are in France and Austria respectively? How I wish the Europeans will retaliate now for all the indignity they suffered from the muhammadans.
    The muhammadan history associated with Iberia is only on destruction. There is nothing useful that those barbarians did. They pillaged and killed.
    Even muhamamdan historians credit their soldiers with untold atrocities in Europe which did not discriminate between men in arms and civilians. That was what Yusuf ibn Tashfun did. He was not alone. In 1521 Belgrade fell to the muhammadans and during the next two centuries the population of what would later be known as Bulgaria, dropped from 4 million to 1/2 million. A good number was deported as slaves while the rest were hunted down like wild birds. The French conquest of Algiers came in 1832 after many centuries of harassment by the Barbery states.
    You have not disputed that the Moroccan dynasty, ' that would kill anyone who tries to take power from it ", is Arab. Since 1591 no Barber has held the reigns of power in his own land and now he lives in fear as his life can be done way with if he demands any right. The American Indians have not yet produced a President but compared to the Barbers their lot is much better. I believe you know that today in America a black man is the president. When will a black man become King of Saudi Arabia or even hold a ministerial appointment? The descendants of African slaves constitute at least 25% of the Saudi population.
    On Darfur and South Sudan, this was what you said :"THE SAME GHADAFI WAS HELPING THE CHRISTIANS IN S SUDAN AND DARFUR REBELLIONS'. There is nothing said about the two areas being black and muslim. There is specific mention of their being Christian. In addition to your very dishonest disposition, there is no doubt that you have problems understanding simple English even when spoken/written by you. The facts are there for all to see and determine what a pathological liar you are.
    My opinion on what is happening in Nigeria counts because this is my country and I am resident here. It is better for you to keep your big mouth and fat nose out of what you do not have the slightest clue about and does not concern you in the least.
    Killing is killing whether done by soldiers or civilians. In Syria people are killing each other. The Syrian soldiers are killing the muhammadan militias and civilians. The last two are trying their best not to be out done.

  186. steadyfriend says:

    @Momo

    Which part of "The Quran says that questions should not be asked…." don't you understand?

    Reply specifically and to the point.

  187. zitouni says:

    Thats all what you have to say about video . I bet you were surprised to hear American themselves tellng you the real cause of all this problem. Keep reading my post where I replied to your garbage and your ignorance. Christianity is dead long time ago and those who exposed are not Muslims , but renown biblical scholars such as Bart Ehrman read his books and see if you can still believe in that fairy tale called christianity

  188. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Zitouni,
    Your sense of judgment is blurred because of too much muhammadan garbage.

  189. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shabby,
    Dr Sina has far too much to do with his time than dwell forever repeating himself to satisfy your childishness. He and others have pointed out severally the many errors in the quran. Each time that is done you come back with the same requirement. Go back and read all the previous posts on the topic.
    It is extremely dishonest of you to say that Dr Sina has not used muhammadan literature to proof the point that islam is false and the thing that founded it was a deadly impostor. The words 'fact and honesty' are strangers to the muhammadan. You can see that yourself.
    # The quran says that questions should not be asked…………..What is your problem with that?

  190. Sakat says:

    @ Zetoni
    "Mohamed in Mecca was just a prophet in Medina he was more than a prophet"",
    What a coward/narcissist thinking . He became commander in chief /as well leader of thugs hahaha.,don't go down my the throat easily sorry ,bring some new theory for your convenience hahaha.

    I am free now, like astounding rock,if you dare, kick me out from here ,i do not bother any little about your prophet ha ha,all i can do ,laugh thoroughly at your cowardliness and at your leaping to a false notion hahaha.

  191. shabeer says:

    The use of the "Deplete Uranium Bombs" against the Iraqi civilians in Southern Iraq during the Gulf War:

    Note: Please don't forget to read the "Other related web sites" section at the end of this article. It has tragic statistic numbers that you need to be aware of.

    The following pictures reveal the truth about the barbaric attacks that were done by the United States of America's Armed forces against the Iraqi civilians in Southern Iraq. The United States used what is called "Uranium Bombs" against the unarmed Iraqi Civilians. The Deplete Uranium Bombs are exactly small Atomic Bombs!!.
    The Iraqis did not have nor used any Nuclear Weapons against the US and its Allies. I am not in anyway defending Saddam Hussein and his barbaric regime. But why did the Civilized United States decide to attack the innocent IRAQI CIVILIANS with Nuclear Weapons??!!

    The following pictures were extracted from http://www.wakefieldcam.freeserve.co.uk/extremede…. This site was sent to me by Noaman Ali; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him. You can also visit http://www.islamicparty.com/commonsense/iraq30.ht…. The link is about showing statistical numbers about the hard times that the Iraqis had gone through for the past 10 years of Sanctions, and it was sent to me by Shakoor Ahmed; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.

    "In an act of stark cruelty, the US dominated Sanctions Committee refuses to permit Iraq to import the clean-up equipment that they desperately need to decontaminate their country of the Depleted Uranium ammunition that the US fired at them. Approximately 315 tons of DU dust was left by the use of this ammunition.The Sanctions Committee also refuses to allow the mass importation of anti-cancer treatments, which contain trace amounts of radio-isotopes, on the grounds that these constitute '…nuclear materials..' (Ross B. Mirkarimi)"

    And why is the Civilized United States until today (10 years after the war) is preventing Iraq from importing the "clean-up equipment" to clean its region from the Nuclear Radiation that is causing thousands of Iraqi kids to be born with its infection as shown below??!!
    PICTORIAL EVIDENCE : http://www.answering-christianity.com/iraqi_tortuhttp://www.mideastfacts.com/index_iraq.html this site was created by a christian arab and his name is Sam. You can find many articles on the Israeli participation in the holocaust of Iraqi civilians.

    The main site is http://www.mideastfacts.com/

    You can find quotes such as:

    "More than one million Iraqis have died- 567,000 of them children -as a direct consequence of economic sanctions… As many as 12% of the children surveyed in Baghdad are wasted, 28% stunted and 29% underweight." –UN FAO, December 1995.

    The following article was taken from http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/09/18/vic.ter…. At the end of the article, CNN tells us that "Iraq blames the United States for the deaths of 1.5 million Iraqis as a result of U.N. economic sanctions imposed after the Gulf War."
    http://www.answering-christianity.com/deplete_urahttp://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1
    http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdul-rahma

  192. shabeer says:

    # Dr Sina has added goes to confirm our views……………………

    DON'T SAYS LIE HERE ,HE DIDN'T PROVE ANYTHING AGAINST ISLAM,HE JUST EXPRESSES HIS PERSONAL OPINION ABOUT ISLAM,READ HIS MAJOR OF THE POST,HE NEVER INCLUDE THE EITHER VALID FROM THE SCRIPTURES OR TRUE HISTORICAL FACT,THAT NOT VALID PROOF FOR CRITICISM,FOR EX) FROM Exorcism: Is it Real? HE SAYS THOUSANDS OF ERROR IS THERE IN QURAN ,I ASK HIM TO PLZ PROVE AT LEAST ONE HERE ……………..HE NEVER RESPOND IT ,NEVER COME AGAIN TO IT??? WHAT THE REQUIREMENT OF THIS ESCAPE? IF HE WAS CONFIDENCE THAT ISLAM WAS NOT FROM GOD OR ILLEGAL RELIGION ,HE MUST PROVE WITH EVIDENCE…………………….

    # The quran says that questions should not be asked ………………..

  193. zitouni says:

    Sura 18 : 83-86 says the sun sets in muddy water. Do you believe in that also?????

    People who live in France if you ask them where the sun set they will tell you in atlantic ocean and those who live in California would tell you in Pacific. This is just way of talking or description of sun set

  194. zitouni says:

    It is not surprising that you chose to deny the authority of the hadiths simply because they reveal the truth about muhammadanism.

    I did not say that I reject all hadiths I say they are not as reliable as Koran . For heaven sake lets understand this hadith the way you did that earth belong to the prophet as well so what Muhamed is dead you may say as ignorant person that Muslims can inherit it from their prophet well I got bad news for you prophet said that we the prophets we can not inherited if we leave property as you ignore that Fatima muhameds daughter was not allowed to inherit land belong to her father. Hadith do require expertise to undertand them thats the way it has been

    Have you ever heard of Spain, Portugal, France, Austria, Greece? Those were some of the European countries the muhammadans invaded.

    Muslims did not invade France , or Austria

    The town called Istanbul was once called Constantinople.

    We can say the same thing about all N America

    You never provided contrary evidence to what I said about the destructive muhammadan presence in Iberia. So that fact remains controverted.

    I said read history of Andalusia if you want to know the civiliaztion that Muslim buillt there

    The link you provided on Yusuf ibn Tashfun said nothing about the number of Europeans he massacred. It means you have no answer.

    You said that he killed 240K in that battle , but link does not say that he did and according to the link his enemy force was no more than 3000 men and if you have proof that he killed 240K show it to me

    You either evaded stating the last time that the Berbers ruled any North African country or you simple did not know. Whatever you reason may be, it shows you for the empty and foul-mouthed creature that you are.

    No dummy I know the history of my country better than you do. If Berbers are not in power today not because they are not Arabs or Arabs would not allow them. This dynasty would kill anybody who tries to take over Arabs or Berbers you got that in your stupid mind . when was the last the native Indian become US president ? They did not even allow them to remain alive in their own land let alone to let them lead. While Arabs allow Berbers , Kurds as well Turks to become king and caliphs

    You are now pouring calumny on Gaddafi because he is no more. In his heyday he was the best thing to have happened to muhammadanism.

    I always hated Gadafi if you think he was the best thing that has happened to Islam just becasue you were reading Gadafi propaganda. Gadafi called in changing koran and rejected all Suna of prophet and meantime you are saying he was the best thing . I think you are so ignorant

    Just to cure your abysmal ignorance, there are no Christians in Darfur

    and whern did I say that there were. ? are you dumb you cannot read English. I said both are black and both are Muslims go back and read it

    and there was no muhammadan support for the South Sudanese. Every muhammadan wanted the people dead and behaved as if the genocide of more than 50 years never took place.

    that shows you are so ignorant .

    Gadafi help : Relations between Khartoum and Tripoli were strained during Gadhafi's rule because of the slain leader's support for rebels in Sudan's western Darfur region and in South Sudan, which seceded in July under a 2005 peace deal.
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/libya-lea

    There is no civil war in Nigeria. What is happening is a calculated effort by muhammadans, with the support of their fellow believers, to eliminate Christians and Christianity from the country. Those responsible have unequivocally made that public.

    Tharts you opinion

    Rwanda could not have been worse than Syria nor the plight of the Kurds who are having a taste of muhammadan brotherliness

    I just showed you that Christians too are killing each when you want us to believe this kind of thing happenes only between Muslims. The case in Syria we have regime is killing civilians and not civilians are killing each other like in Rwanda

  195. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Momo,
    Some of us already know so much about muhammadanism that what Dr Sina has added goes to confirm our views.
    Brainwashing does not allow one to ask questions or find out things for himself. Dr Sina has not done that. If he had, then the likes of you would have been blocked from this website. He allows everyone to express his will freely. It is in muhammadanism that brainwashing takes place.I have tried unsuccessfully to post on muhammadan websites. The quran says that questions should not be asked because the answers would be so discouraging that many will be prompted to leave.
    If you want to see impolite language, then read posts by Shabby, yourself and that other called Zitouini.
    Muhammadanism is the product of satanism and its founder was the agent of satan.

  196. Momo says:

    Those who follow Ali Sina never have healthy brain.
    I tell you brothers and sisters, all Ali Sina wants is your hatred to Islam and muslims.
    don't you realize that you are now being brainwashed? your hatred is being raised up to your head as if you want to kill Muhammad and all muslims.

    Read carefully what he writes about Islam, he never speaks politely. I suspect he never knows what polite means. His writing is full of hatred, insult, and offence.

    I don't believe someone who has good education can speak like kids.

    ALI SINA IS THE REAL SATAN. …

  197. zitouni says:

    What was the reason which , necessitated/influenced to go for "war" against innocent people to your prophet

    To you they were innocent I do not know what kind of marrijwana do you smoke . If you have been reading anti Islamic website thats the conclusion that you are going to reach .

    ,for establishing his prophet hood.Instead of convincing people his prophet hood by suffering in the hands of his opponents for the greater benefit of the society,he resort short cut route of violent means all the time.Saints,Prophets,Saviors win heart of the people by love and not by war.Two things left for your Mohammed to describe himself ,either he is exclusively a ruler of barbarian cadre or a genuine prophet.He can't claim himself as ,Attila the Hun;Chengige Khan ;Adolf Hitler and at the same stock claiming himself prophet like , Jesus the Savior : or Buddha the Saint ,both terms are pol-apart,the boll is in your court .Some time back i asked you to define the term "Prophet" ,however you skipped.Now again you have re-embarked the cruise of love and definitely we as custodian of it has right to know what is your identity for allowing /accommodating space in it.

    Muhamed in Mecca was just a prophet in Medina he was more than a prophet he became commander in chief leader of nation with population . You cannot find stateman in the history of mankind who did not use force to defend his country from enemies . Why you skioed to talk about other biblical prophet were comitted war crime and genocide uhmmm tell me dummy –

    here is video for you to know why Muslims are fighting white men
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0yOa7FrgUg

  198. zitouni says:

    You have been reading too much CIA propaganda and you will never understand the real history of the conflict between white men and Muslims so I am going to give you this video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0yOa7FrgUg

  199. Yinyang energy says:

    catalyst@99
    It was a whitewashed story. Just like 9/11 was an inside job n Neil Armstrong was converted to Islam after his trip to the moon. But he died without a Muslim name n was buried with Christian rite.

  200. Sakat says:

    /According to your ignorant mind he did that. Prophet did not commit any rape if he killed it was during war in self defence /
    What was the reason which , necessitated/influenced to go for "war" against innocent people to your prophet,for establishing his prophet hood.Instead of convincing people his prophet hood by suffering in the hands of his opponents for the greater benefit of the society,he resort short cut route of violent means all the time.Saints,Prophets,Saviors win heart of the people by love and not by war.Two things left for your Mohammed to describe himself ,either he is exclusively a ruler of barbarian cadre or a genuine prophet.He can't claim himself as ,Attila the Hun;Chengige Khan ;Adolf Hitler and at the same stock claiming himself prophet like , Jesus the Savior : or Buddha the Saint ,both terms are pol-apart,the boll is in your court .Some time back i asked you to define the term "Prophet" ,however you skipped.Now again you have re-embarked the cruise of love and definitely we as custodian of it has right to know what is your identity for allowing /accommodating space in it.

  201. sunsetsinmuddywater says:

    Sura 18 : 83-86 says the sun sets in muddy water. Do you believe in that also?????

  202. chuck says:

    @Guest,
    //I am just quoting here and there from Wikipedia and other sources in the internet. This is my acknowledgement.//
    But this comes as your opinion!! Or do you also want to say that you don't have any opinion about Bush Jr or the European colonists? If so, then I have to doubt the maturity of this conversation. And if not so I have to doubt your integrity/intention because when it comes to Muhammad you want to wait till you do a detailed study!!

  203. Guest says:

    //That is mere escapism. Have you completely studied the 2003 invasion of Iraq or the Spanish conquest of the West? I guess no. //

    None of my statements here is based on deep/scholarly study. I am just quoting here and there from Wikipedia and other sources in the internet. This is my acknowledgement.

  204. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Guest,
    According to the Guardian, not even the Palestinian Authority authenticated the report and no other member of the delegation mentioned it. Haaretz, that carried the story did not have a representative at the meeting, so its source must have been the same dubious Palestinian official.
    America had legitimate right to go after the terrorists and their benefactors in Afghanistan without the "I was sent by God angle". All efforts to get Mullah Omar to release Osama bin Laden fell on deaf ears. That made Kabul an accessory to the fact.But as my friend said, if you are to condemn Bush for using the name of God to justify the war, you should have the courage to do the same to Muhammad who anchored every evil he did on god's order. Do that and muhammadanism will be exposed for what it is.
    The Palestinians are not interested in a state existing alongside Israel. Their aim is "to reap the heart out of every Jew" and then dump the carcases in the Mediterranean. That is where they have failed and for as long as they live in such delusion, a state will elude them.

  205. chuck says:

    @Guest,
    //If God is the Most Merciful, Bush Jr's statement implies that his invasion is a manifestation of God's mercy.//
    No Sir. Why make a far fetched conclusion like the Muslim's make of Muhammad's atrocities? If God is most merciful, then Bush Jr's statement implies that Bush was lying. Simple. And the same ought to be true about Muhammad.

  206. chuck says:

    @Guest,
    //By the way, according to this wikipedia entry Spanish colonization of Latin America was motivated by trade and spread of Catholic faith//
    We were talking about killing the natives. Spreading the religion was a motivation, no doubt, but it was never the primary, nor the initial motive. As I said, most Indians perished because of the diseases the Spanish and Portugese brought. And anyway I have already said that colonization was wrong.
    //I have to do more reading about the history of Muhammad and Islam.//
    That is mere escapism. Have you completely studied the 2003 invasion of Iraq or the Spanish conquest of the West? I guess no.

    //Although I have not read her in detail, Karen Armstrong has quite favorable opinion about Muhammad.//
    :-). So? There are quite a few unfavourable opinion about Karen herself!! Either way doesn't prove anything. Remember its her opinion. You have to tell me about your from the hard facts about Muhammad and his various wars and diktats (For example I gave you mine without giving you chilling accounts of CIA's position regarding WMD harboured by Iraq before 2003).

  207. Sakat says:

    @shabeer
    Madrasa boys are waste oxygen's no one bothers about them,let alone Dr Sina (who,s each minute is immense important) hahaha.

  208. NoBody says:

    Momo is an islamozombie. He is frightened. Agony is his future. Pray for him. Balanced Interchanged, Rhythmic Balanced Interchange is the Nature of God also known as Love. Its where we are ALL going. Only thing that is to be seen is the agony of waiting. For those engaged in hate and fear for powers sake will have the most agony. Yes indeed, pray for them.

  209. Guest says:

    @chuck, I have to do more reading about the history of Muhammad and Islam. There are conflicting accounts about Muhammad's mercy and alleged atrocities. Although I have not read her in detail, Karen Armstrong has quite favorable opinion about Muhammad.

    By the way, according to this wikipedia entry Spanish colonization of Latin America was motivated by trade and spread of Catholic faith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_colonization
    The same can be said about Spanish colonization of the Philippines, where they managed to convert a significant majority of Muslims to Catholicism. You may be surprised to know that Filipinos call it "come back" when a Filipino converts to Islam. This has nothing to do with the word "revert" used by Muslim in the West when a Christian becomes a Muslim.

  210. Guest says:

    @chuck, I was referring to the Junior Bush, who stated that God spoke to him to do what he did in Iraq and Afghanistan plus give Palestinians a state and Israelis security. He delivered on Iraq and Afghanistan with huge collateral damage and suffering on innocent Iraqis and Afghans, and huge cost to American economy, but he could not deliver on the third one. Check this link http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq….

    If God is the Most Merciful, Bush Jr's statement implies that his invasion is a manifestation of God's mercy.

  211. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Zitouni,
    There is nothing new in muhammadans always taking shelter in names calling. It makes you feel accomplished. This may be good muhammadan scholarship. But it is the way of fools.
    It is not surprising that you chose to deny the authority of the hadiths simply because they reveal the truth about muhammadanism. You now take shelter in the hadiths requiring expertise before they could be understood. But without them, there is no way that a muhammadan can emulate the 'sunnah of the prophet' as commanded by allah. So whether you like it or not, the hadiths remain an integral and vital part of muhammadanism.
    Have you ever heard of Spain, Portugal, France, Austria, Greece? Those were some of the European countries the muhammadans invaded. The town called Istanbul was once called Constantinople.
    You never provided contrary evidence to what I said about the destructive muhammadan presence in Iberia. So that fact remains controverted.
    The link you provided on Yusuf ibn Tashfun said nothing about the number of Europeans he massacred. It means you have no answer.

    Idris ibn Abdallah fled Iraq and established the Idrisa dynasty in Morocco in 788. From then till the 11th century, the Arabs ruled Morocco before the Berbers overthrew the overlords and set up successive dynasties. In 1591, the Arabs reasserted their domination and in 1666, the Alaouite dynasty came into being and has ruled Morocco ever since. You either evaded stating the last time that the Berbers ruled any North African country or you simple did not know. Whatever you reason may be, it shows you for the empty and foul-mouthed creature that you are.
    What has the muhammadans being in northern Nigeria got to do with the lives they have been taking?
    You are now pouring calumny on Gaddafi because he is no more. In his heyday he was the best thing to have happened to muhammadanism. Just to cure your abysmal ignorance, there are no Christians in Darfur and there was no muhammadan support for the South Sudanese. Every muhammadan wanted the people dead and behaved as if the genocide of more than 50 years never took place. Al Bashir and those before him, share the same ethnic and religious DNA with their kith and kin across the Red Sea. It was the same hypocritical silence shown on East Timor.
    There is no civil war in Nigeria. What is happening is a calculated effort by muhammadans, with the support of their fellow believers, to eliminate Christians and Christianity from the country. Those responsible have unequivocally made that public.
    Rwanda could not have been worse than Syria nor the plight of the Kurds who are having a taste of muhammadan brotherliness

  212. chuck says:

    @Zitouni,
    //He never authorise any rape instead he urged his followers to treat their prisoners kindly.//
    You want me to furnish the same hadeeth again? Even leaving that aside Q: 4-24 is a direct authorization to sexually exploit woman slaves:

    //suppose you have leader of a nation is asking for the head of Obama would not that be declaration of war on USA?//
    Actually no. Secondly, you are escaping my question. Can you count me the number of instances that Muhammad/Muslims was actually attacked in a war like scuffle/situation/ambush? Thirdly if you claim (correlating with the Obama example) that Muhhamad's head was asked for by his opponents, can you show me evidences supporting that notion for each of the Ghazwas (OK say only 20 such instances, roughly 25%)?

  213. chuck says:

    @Guest,
    //What do you think about George Bush under whose command a million Iraqis were killed at random by the Alled forces' bombs?//
    Which one? The senior Bush had a valid reason to go to war with Iraq. And Iraqi government figures stated that some 3000 civilians died in the first campaign. Not millions as you would like us to believe. That is called collateral damage.
    The second war can be condemned and I will have no reservation to say that it was, though not unprovoked, an invasion. Bush Junior can be labelled as an war monger.

    And anyway neither of the Bush have claimed prophethood or are designated as God's greatest mercy. Now let me hear you say the same about Muhammad and his army.

  214. chuck says:

    @Guest,
    //If the American Indians could claim more rights, why did European Christians kill them?//
    What they did was wrong. Can you make the same claim about Islam and Muhammad?

    Now coming to this specific point. The killers didn't as a whole claimed that they are killing others SPECIFICALLY because they are either European or Christian. Also if you know your history right, then actually most Indians were killed because of the diseases the European brought with them. Even then I deplore the European colonists who were definitely a bunch of greedy looters. Let me see you claim the same about Islam and Muhammad.

  215. Guest says:

    You are not answering my question. My question was "If the American Indians could claim more rights, why did the European Christians kill them."

    This part "If the American Indians could claim more rights, … " is based on your own statement.

  216. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Guest
    Where is the evidence that a million Iraqis were killed under George Bush's command. According to the Iraqi Body Count, the total number of people killed stands at about 167,000 based on reports received from hospital. Not less than 90% of the civilians killed have died from the hands of muhammadans.
    When you talk about Sabre and Shatilla, why should you not be reminded of the 4 million Armenians and Greeks wiped out by Ottoman muhammadans?

  217. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Guest,
    Cannibalism is exclusive to muhammadanism. If there was any human flesh eaten, it was done by muhammadans. What you are referring to was said to have happened in my country. It was peddled by a certain Zainab, who was said to be interpreting for a foreign correspondent. The people shown in the video clip spoke the same language as the interpreter which language is not spoken by the indegenes of the area. It is spoken by the settlers who, in typical muhammadan fashion, have been killing the indigenous people to disposes them of their land and establish a caliphate in Jos.
    Get your facts right.

  218. zitouni says:

    He did authorize rape. We had a long debate on that and after a while you left the field. As far as war in self defense is concerned,

    He never authorise any rape instead he urged his followers to treat their prisoners kindly.

    Muhammad was involved in 80 or so Ghazwas can you list the number of times that an actual 'first' attack was made against him? If you have 'studied' enough you would know that.

    suppose you have leader of a nation is asking for the head of Obama would not that be declaration of war on USA?

  219. zitouni says:

    You coward what i have to learn.First you define me what is "study' . Why Mohammed committed war,s and which god told him to kill unarmed people ,rape their girl and women.

    You are forcing your wicked and racist and ignorant interpretation of history on us . we do not read and underftsnd history the way you do

    Jesus too was prophet he never went to war ,never raped any girl, woman never appropriated others property .How you compare your Mohammed (robber) to a real saint (Jesus) hahaha.

    People who comoare Jesus with Muhamed are dumb fucck. You can only compare Jesus to Muhamed when he was living in Mecca .When you do Jesus is more violent that Muhamed if you know the incident of Jesus in temple in Jeruslam where he acted violently and attack the money chmgers and threw tables there is incident of Muhamed acting like when he was in Mecca. In medina things has changed he became leader in time of wars people in Medina chose him to lead so he cannot say to them if the enemy attack do not compte on me. Why you do not choose other biblical prophet who were also commanders in chiefs such as Moses , Jeshoea , david and Salomom becasue prophet muhamed was shiny stars compared to them those guys according to the bible they killed even babies .

  220. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Guest,
    The muhammadans killed 80 million Indians and destroyed a rich culture which had existed for centuries. What right did the muhammadans have to kill the Indians?

  221. zitouni says:

    Hey you moron!!!, Ignorancy applies to you and not me hahaha. You are running away from answering the agenda in my post hahaha. Your post show how illiterate and ignorant you are of materialistic knowledge like your psycho prophet.

    I will prove who is the real igonrant and who is running from the questions

    Your great prophet was pedophile,see what Ayesha has to say about him hahaha.He could not raise his penny to 90% on crucial moment ,thus Ayesha was forced to take refuge in a slave for fulfilling her sexual desires hahaha.

    Thats all what you have is hahahaha . Where is your proof of what you are saying , dumb fucck igmorant

    You rough Wahhabi ,the ugly Saudi occupants of Farsi land ,and want noble Farsi king shah for the atrocities committed by your pedophile Ayatollah ,who has wiped million young intelligent generation of Persia haha ,you psycho waste oxygen,don't you ashamed of living waste life haha.

    This is first question that you dodged why you had nothing to say about Posada the terrorist who is living freely in USA uhmm tell me dummy ?. It was not Saudi who wanted Shah this shows how ignorant you are . The new revolutioary regime and Iranians people wanted that crimninal to stand trial and pay for his crime

  222. Guest says:

    If the American Indians could claim more rights, why did European Christians kill them?

  223. Guest says:

    What do you think about George Bush under whose command a million Iraqis were killed at random by the Alled forces' bombs? What do you think about Sabra & Shatilla massacre, where Palestinian refugees were massacred by Christians?

  224. Guest says:

    What is your opinion regarding Christians eating roasted meat of Muslims they killed?

  225. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shabby,
    Nothing is ever valid in muhammadanism. No matter the evidence presented, a muhammadan will always be in the denial mode. It confirms the falsehood called 'islam'.

  226. chuck says:

    @Momo
    //if you can prove that 2 x 2 is not 4//
    Very easy. Since you didn't specify the base , in base 3, 2 X 2= 11 (base 3) and in base 4, 2 X 2 = 10 (base 4).

  227. chuck says:

    @Zitouni,
    //Prophet did not commit any rape if he killed it was during war in self defence //
    He did authorize rape. We had a long debate on that and after a while you left the field. As far as war in self defense is concerned, Muhammad was involved in 80 or so Ghazwas can you list the number of times that an actual 'first' attack was made against him? If you have 'studied' enough you would know that.

  228. Sakat says:

    /Learn and study first then open your mouth/
    You coward what i have to learn.First you define me what is "study' . Why Mohammed committed war,s and which god told him to kill unarmed people ,rape their girl and women.Jesus too was prophet he never went to war ,never raped any girl, woman never appropriated others property .How you compare your Mohammed (robber) to a real saint (Jesus) hahaha.

  229. shabeer says:

    He makes debate challenges of $50,000 but does not have $6000 dollars to run his site. He keeps throwing insults against Islam and Muslims. They even call for mass-slaughter of Muslims, and then say that they are peaceful human beings who are uniting the world. In reality, these people are nothing but liars and enemies of the Believers.

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    Thank you for your generous donation. We already reached and surpassed the funds required for leasing a super fast server in just a few days. Your support is a nod of approval to our work and it shows how much you care for this site to stay alive and grow. If the donations reach $6,000 dollars, we can afford to keep the present server also and host other Islamocritic sites for free. Otherwise we just concentrate on our own site.

  230. Sakat says:

    /According to your ignorant mind he did that. Prophet did not commit any rape if he killed it was during war in self defence/

    Hey you moron!!!, Ignorancy applies to you and not me hahaha. You are running away from answering the agenda in my post hahaha. Your post show how illiterate and ignorant you are of materialistic knowledge like your psycho prophet.
    Your great prophet was pedophile,see what Ayesha has to say about him hahaha.He could not raise his penny to 90% on crucial moment ,thus Ayesha was forced to take refuge in a slave for fulfilling her sexual desires hahaha.

    /I see . Why USA refused to hand over shah for trial since he killed 100000 of Iranians. They are many criminals who seek refuge in other countries/
    You rough Wahhabi ,the ugly Saudi occupants of Farsi land ,and want noble Farsi king shah for the atrocities committed by your pedophile Ayatollah ,who has wiped million young intelligent generation of Persia haha ,you psycho waste oxygen,don't you ashamed of living waste life haha.

  231. shabeer says:

    rape-stone death
    Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4366
    prohibited to use other person property:
    Dawud :: Book 9 : Hadith 1697
    theft prohibited:
    Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4367,73,74
    Dawud :: Book 9 : Hadith 1706
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 320
    Theft cut hand punishment:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 37

    adultery prohibited:
    Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4407, 12,13
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 320
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 802
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 500 , 611,623
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 1,12, 17.
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 655
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 81 :: Hadith 773
    Minor adultery sinful to look, say sinful, self wishes & show
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 77 :: Hadith 609

    prohibited stealing,adultery,cheating business,judge withou
    Malik :: Book 21 : Hadith 21.13.26
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 81 :: Hadith 775
    No cheating
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 86 :: Hadith 94
    Stone death for adultery
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 633
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 37,280
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 805,806,807,808,80
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 826
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 91 :: Hadith 365
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 90 :: Hadith 344
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 78 :: Hadith 629
    No punishment without evidence:
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 838,39
    prostitution prohibited:
    Dawud :: Book 12 : Hadith 2257
    beat punishment for adultery[unmarried personl]
    Dawud :: Book 12 : Hadith 2268
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 815,818,819,822,82
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 78 :: Hadith 629
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 826 don't hate each other
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 80 :: Hadith 717
    don't desert (cut your relations with) one another
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 80 :: Hadith 717
    Illegal /lie witness prohibited
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 319
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 10
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 840
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 841
    Poor prophet
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 78 :: Hadith 678
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 76 :: Hadith 457 ,58,
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 76 :: Hadith 459,60,61,62, 63,64,65,66prophet never consume other person property
    Dawud :: Book 22 : Hadith 3326
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 840

    wrong money prohibited:
    Dawud :: Book 19 : Hadith 2931
    mischief through the land prohibited:
    Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4357
    Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4359
    Fighting each other prohibited: money punishment
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 30
    Stealing prohibited
    Bukhari 1.3.91
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 81 :: Hadith 774
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 320 Malik :: Book 21 : Hadith 21.3.10
    Do not kill women or children or an aged, weak person,Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees.Do not
    destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do
    not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty,
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 320
    Not to join anything in worship along with Allah, (2) Not to steal, (3) Not to commit illegal sexual
    intercourse, (4) Not to kill your children, (5) Not to accuse an innocent person (to spread such an
    accusation among people), (6) Not to be disobedient (when ordered) to do good deeds.

    Prohibit killing with unjust:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 92 :: Hadith 423
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 37
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 17
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 2,3,6,9
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 840
    Bloodshed completely prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 4,7 ,8

  232. shabeer says:

    One of the exploded bags that had a bomb in it had a UNIQUE white square on top of it. This square still remained there even after the blast. This unique white square was found on one of the backpacks of ONE OF THE FEDERAL AGENTS who was carrying the backpack [http://www.answering-christianity.com/boston_bombing_lie_6.png4] http://www.answering-christianity.com/boston_bombing_lie_4.png%5B5%5D:

    And after the explosion, the very same federal agent was pictured running WITHOUT the backpack on his body! [ 6http://www.answering-christianity.com/boston_bombing_lie_6.png]Here is a new video with three additional strong evidences for the Boston LIE:

    1- The Israeli FBI took a college professor's mobile phone, and deleted all of the pictures he took. You'll see the professor describing what the images were in the video.

    2- Clear PICTURES (plural) of three Israeli female agents placed one trash bag and two personal bags that latter exploded!

    3- The Boston police removed the tree where the blast happened. The tree would've shown which DIRECTION THE EXPLOSION CAME FROM !http://www.answering-christianity.com/boston_lies_fbi_videos_trash_bags_tree_removal.wmvhttp://www.answering-christianity.com/boston_lies_fbi_videos_trash_bags_tree_removal.wmvProof #3:

    The Boston Bombings were another 9/11! They were an inside government job! See proofs of the older brother getting captured ALIVE and taken away. He wasn't killed and found dead as they claimed. The two brothers were framed. They used to work for the FBI, and they got framed:The Tsarnaev brothers, Tamerlan (older) and Dzhokhar (younger) Tsarnaev used to work for the FBI, and they were framed.Boston Unanswered Questions:

    The following are yet-to-be-answered questions by the FBI and the zionist US government – the real enemy of the USA:

    1- Where are the guns the Tsarnaev brothers used in the shootouts?

    2- Where are the bombs the Tsarnaev brothers threw at police during the chase?

    3- Where is the bomb vest the older suspect wore?

    4- Where are the bomb making materials (not firecrackers) and tools the Tsarnaev brothers used to construct the bombs?

    5- Where is the surveillance footage of the Tsarnaev brothers placing the bombs?

    6- What's amazing and not very credible is that the younger brother was able to jump into an SUV and drive away from a shootout with Boston Police, FBI, DHS, ATF and SWAT, is he Chuck Norris or what??

    7- Where are the dash cam and helicopter videos of the high speed chase and bloody fight that took place between the two Tsarnaev brothers and the Boston Police, FBI, DHS, ATF and SWAT agencies?

  233. zitouni says:

    "Mohammed did committed seventeen time rape,murder,looting etc, and on each occasion he repented for his actions before Allah"

    According to your ignorant mind he did that. Prophet did not commit any rape if he killed it was during war in self defence

    Now if your above philosophy/logic is applied to this Mohammed ,he too is not forgiven by merciful Allah, isn't that true.

    Learn and study first then open your mouth

  234. shabeer says:

    Malik :: Book 49 : Hadith 49.5.7
    Yahya related to me from Malik from Abu'z-Zinad from al-Araj from Abu Hurayra that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "The very poor are not the people who constantly walk from person to person and are given one or two morsels, and one or two dates." They said, "Who are the very poor, Messenger of Allah?" He said, "People who do not find enough for themselves and other people are not aware of them to give sadaqa to them, and they do not start begging from other people."

    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 76 :: Hadith 555
    Narrated Usama:

    The Prophet said, "I stood at the gate of Paradise and saw that the majority of the people who had entered it were poor people, while the rich were forbidden (to enter along with the poor, because they were waiting the reckoning of their accounts)

    Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 62 :: Hadith 126
    Narrated Imran:

    The Prophet said, "I looked at Paradise and saw that the majority of its residents were the poor;

    Muslim :: Book 36 : Hadith 6597
    Ibn Abbas reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: I had a chance to look into the Paradise and I found that majority of the people was poor .

    Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 2 :: Hadith 27
    Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:

    A person asked Allah's Apostle . "What (sort of) deeds in or (what qualities of) Islam are good?" He replied, "To feed (the poor) and greet those whom you know and those whom you don't know."

    Muslim :: Book 36 : Hadith 6596
    Usama b. Zaid reported that Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) said: I stood at the door of Paradise and I found that the overwhelming majority of those who entered therein was that of poor persons and the wealthy persons were detained to get into that.

    LEBANON NOT A ISLAMIC SHARIYA ADOPTED COUNTRY ,IF THEY PRACTICALLY ADOPT THE SYSTEM OF ISLAMIC BANKING /ZAKATH ,THERE IS NO SITUATION LIKE THIS HAPPENS TO THEM ………….

    Malik :: Book 31 : Hadith 31.29.68
    Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab from Abu Bakr ibn Abd ar-Rahman ibn al-Harith ibn Hisham from Abu Masud al-Ansari that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, forbade the sale price of a dog, the earnings of a prostitute and the earnings of a fortune teller.

    By the earnings of a prostitute he meant what a woman was given for fornication. The earnings of a fortune teller were what he was given to tell a fortune.

    Dawud :: Book 12 : Hadith 2257
    Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:

    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prostitution in Islam.

    Muslim :: Book 10 : Hadith 3806
    Rafi b. Khadij reported Allah'& Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The price of a dog is evil, the earning of a prostitute is evil and the earning of a cupper is evil.

    Muslim :: Book 10 : Hadith 3805
    Rafi b. Khadij (Allah be pleased with him) reported: I heard Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying: The worst earning is the earning of a prostitute,

    Dawud :: Book 12 : Hadith 2304
    Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:

    Musaykah, a slave-girl of some Ansari, came and said: My master forces me to commit fornication. Thereupon the following verse was revealed: "But force not your maids to prostitution (when they desire chastity)."

    Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 63 :: Hadith 260
    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    The Prophet forbade taking the earnings of a slave girl by prostitution.
    Dawud :: Book 11 : Hadith 2046
    Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As:

    Marthad ibn AbuMarthad al-Ghanawi used to take prisoners (of war) from Mecca (to Medina). At Mecca there was a prostitute called Inaq who had illicit relations with him. (Marthad said:) I came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and said to him: May I marry Inaq, Apostle of Allah? The narrator said: He kept silence towards me. Then the verse was revealed:"….and the adulteress none shall marry save and adulterer or an idolater." He called me and recited this (verse) to me, and said: Do not marry her.
    I THINK THAT ENOUGH FOR WHAT THE ISLAMIC VIEWS OF PROSTITUTION:

  235. zitouni says:

    Who want to stay in the lands of barbarians,where beheading of woman ,men has become the employment of the people.Where feudal lords cultivate narcotics to poison the humanity, when the inhabitants themselves are hungry for food .Educated into a criminal manual (Quaran) who's sole purpose was to destabilize the society.Looting or destroying of others wealth is the characteristics of a religion.They themselves fight with their fellow companions and blaming others for their poverty .

    You have been reading too much CIA propaganda

    You attack others first and when retaliated lick the ass of innocence.
    The master mind of 9/11 were stationed in Afghanistan,when the U.S asked them to hand over these culprit to their law enforcement agency ,

    They attack you because you have broken into their property ( S Arabia ) and refused to leave so you deserve it according to all laws in the world. Intruder has no rigjht you can do whatever you want to him and call the police who will not listen to his complain for whart you ahve done to him they will put him in jail , you know that.

    Your one eyed thug Mullah Omar refused to budge.You know what the implication of that refusal ,"The Afghan State "as a whole stood at war with the west (read some international law and Geneva convention).Now you cry foul of victimization.You lots are follower in true sense of that thug Mohammed.

    I see . Why USA refused to hand over shah for trial since he klilled 100000 of Iranians. They are many criminals who seek refuge in other countries . In USA itself you have terrorist by the name Posada wanted by Cuba and Venezuela and yet USA refued to hand him over do you know why because he was CIA terrorist a good terrorist not bad one
    http://www.policymic.com/articles/28177/while-86-

  236. zitouni says:

    If you are a historian, you would have known that the American Indians are themselves not native to America. They entered there during the last ice age when there was a land corridor linking the Americas to Europe and Asia. Some of the American Indians have been found to have migrated from Europe. What can be said is that they got there before the later settlers. To that extent they can claim more rights.

    You cannot use that kind of logic. They say the original of man is Africa so if we use your stupid logic then European and Asian are not indigenous to their land becasue they are Africans

    Concerning North Africa, there is no migration pattern among the Berbers. They have always been where they are.

    Then why are asking them to leave

    Now they are a down trodden people in their own land. Let those who came from outside the area go back to wherever they came from. They forced themselves and way of life on the Berbers. They were never welcome but tolerated. Their departure is long over due.

    No they are not . They had one time ruled all N Africa while Arabs were their subject. Learn history dummy

  237. zitouni says:

    It is in keeping with muhammadan/Arab imperialism that the Arabs who live in N.Africa and Great Syria whose ancestors came from Arabia are minorities yet the wield all the power to the detriment of those who own the land. The majority have to be bent to the wilds of the minority. You have further proved how despotic, inhuman and terrible muhammadanism is.

    You are ignorant . Rulers of Othman empire which ruled the entire Arab world with exception of Morocco were not Arabs dummy they were Turks nor were the rulers of N Africa dynasties Mowahadin, Moravid and Mariniyin they were all Berbers .Learn history before you open your ignorant mouth

  238. zitouni says:

    Whatever the Serbs did came several hundred years late and did not address the wrong done to them for many centuries.

    so according to you N Africans can just slaughtered French for what they have done to them during colonial wars. Why you go back to 1000 years I am talking about now . White man ocupy our land with his intervemtion and installing military bases supporting mafia regime which he installed to do his dirty work and help him steal our natural resources and you are talking about Othoman, Moravids era when those guys were shiny stars compared to medieval christians

    In effect you are being selective instead of being objective. Evil ceases to be that when committed by a muhammadan. No, the discussion is on evil. You can not pick and choose.

    Thats the major conflict that we have today the rest are just internal wars

    The white man does not go to the muhammadan country to settle. He goes for business and once that is over he leaves.

    He has no businnes there. He is not welcome because he come to steal and kill . Do you think invasion of Iraq was business trip dummy and the one in Afghanistan which is still going on. Installation of Militay bases is also for business purpose – I do not know what do you use to analyse the thing your brain or you ass

    But the muhammadan does not want to leave the white man's country. Why is the muhammadan so greedy?

    Why they gave them visa on first place .

    How many American soldiers were in Egypt to prop up Hosni Mubarak? American aid is still going to Egypt. So they are also keeping Morsi in power!

    They had CIA agent there by the 1000 and money by the billions to help Mubark stay in power. Do you know that US embassy in Iran Shah had more than 2000 goverment official working in it. Danm when did you hear something like that . This shows that the country was ocupied by USA. God knows how many Americans are now in SA . Tell your slave master the white to get out from our land if he wants peace if he refuses then you can tell story of him being killed to your ass she will listen to it as for me he deserve it according even to his law because geneva covention give the right to kill him so what the problem here

    If America gets discount on oil price, which is doubtful, it comes from bilateral agreements instead of the use of force.

    What do you expect puppet to say no he is just puppet he will agree to anything

    The UAE has used its oil revenue sensibly, that is why it has attained a good measure of progress.

    Progress based on tourism is doomed to fail. I do not see progress on technology or industry they are just bulding houses and high rise bulding which one day USA will destroy with B52

    Those who choose to engage in squander mania have themselves to blame.

    I blame the CIA and white man who put those guys in power . They were not elected by people

    It is customary for muhammadans to find a scapegoat in some other person to deflect attention from their malfeasance.

    The white man is to blame we cannot move forward while we are ruled by his mafia CIA pupet regimes

  239. zitouni says:

    "Bukhari 53:392 "-
    I do not give too much imporatance to Hadith plus you have to be an expert of hadith in order to understand what prophet meant by that . I go by the koran which says that earth belong to God and thats what I understand

    They are doing that right now. That is why they are the rudest pests all over the world. If it was right for them to invade other people's land 1000 years ago, it would have been proper for them to have a taste of their own medicine today. Unfortunately that is not the case. Nobody has invaded muhammadan lands for conquest.

    so which white man country did the Muslims invade ?

    The slaver always thinks he does the enslaved a favor by dehumanizing him. That is your argument. If the muhammadan occupation had been benevolent in any way, the Europeans would not have thought of emancipation. The conquest took misery and backwardness to Europe.

    Read history of Andalusia before you open your ignorant mouth

    Yusuf ibn Tashfun massacred 240,000 Christians and sent their heads to all the major towns in Iberia and North Africa after the battle of Zalaca. That was an example of muhammadan 'civilization'.

    I doubt that he killed 240K . You have been reading history written by church . Here is the link for that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sagrajas. Yes I know that he cut their head , but those of soldiers and not civilians

    The latinos got to S. America and the others went to Australia, New Zealand and N. America relatively recently. Long before their arrival there, the Arabs had already dispossessed the Indians of their lives and property.

    what Indians are you talking about

    Muhammadan Turkey was the first colonial power ever before Spain.

    You are so ignorant . Rome to you was not colonial power

    The indegenes of North and East Africa being muhammadans has not availed them. The majority Berbers have been arabized by the minority settlers who now lord it over those they met on ground.
    When was the last time a Berber ruled a North African country?

    Ignorant fuuck. Did you know that Morocco was ruled consecutively by 43 Berbers king belonging to 3 Berbers dynasties Yusuf Ben tashafin was himself BERBER.

    It is a good example of the majority being swallowed by the minority. As we write, the indigenous people of Darfur are being hunted as wild animals by the 'benevolent' Arab slave masters. We are not talking about 1000 years ago. It is all about today.

    They are both Muslims both black . It is an internal problem

    The problem we have in Nigeria is the involvement of external elements in our affairs. Muhammadans see Nigeria as a muhammadan country or one that should be muhammadan because of our population and resources.

    Muslims in Nigeria are maninly in North of the country

    Gaddafi publicly acknowledged that he had sponsored rebellion to destabilize Nigeria because the government of the day, though headed by a muhammadan, did not follow the teachings of that cult.

    The same Ghadafi was helping Christians in S sudan and Darfur rebellions. You did not find , but mentally disturb man to use it in your argument

    Christians have been the victims of muhammadan pogrom right from the days prior to independence in 1960. If they now decide to defend themselves it is in keeping with their sense of survival.

    It is civil war . You can find it even between Muslims and even between christians . Are you that ignorant no to remember what has happened in Rawanda

    Go back and read the articles in that same link to cure your ignorance of the Nigerian problem.

    The ignorant is you and not me. I did not deny Muslims killing christians like you did for christians. There is link by atheist they said when christains kills Muslims it does not make news only when Muslim kills a christian.

    In former Yugoslavia the muhammadans were as guilty as the Serbs.

    no They were not

    Have you not heard of Serbs who were killed by muhammadan militias?

    According UN the guilty were Serbs and not Muslims

  240. shabeer says:

    # Al Jazeera network interview……………..# Abdullah bin Ahman in Kitab……………………….Sheik Ahmad Al Qattani…………………………..WHO R THEY ? IS IT VALID EVIDENCE FOR TRUE RELIGION OF GOD ……………PLZ BRING EITHER VERSES FROM QURAN OR VALID HADITH THAT ONLY AUTHORITY OF TRUE RELIGION OF ALMIGHTY GOD…………………….

  241. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @Agracean
    Before answering your question I would like to understand what you meant to say soul has sinful nature.Which are sins did by souls like Ali Sina, Jesus, Buddha, Krishna & you?

  242. Agracean says:

    Mr Sanatan Dharma, the link which you've provided above does not contain the answers to all my above questions. Obviously, the Vedas has limitations because the founder of this Vedic concept returned to dust.

  243. Sakat says:

    @Zitouni
    /Yes God will forgive all sins , but only if you repent before you died and repetence is once in life time. You cannot for example keep killing and keep repenting no/
    "Mohammed did committed seventeen time rape,murder,looting etc, and on each occasion he repented for his actions before Allah"
    Now if your above philosophy/logic is applied to this Mohammed ,he too is not forgiven by merciful Allah, isn't that true.

  244. Sakat says:

    /I do not give damn about your dead because you are the intruder and we are the owner of the house /.
    Who want to stay in the lands of barbarians,where beheading of woman ,men has become the employment of the people.Where feudal lords cultivate narcotics to poison the humanity, when the inhabitants themselves are hungry for food .Educated into a criminal manual (Quaran) who's sole purpose was to destabilize the society.Looting or destroying of others wealth is the characteristics of a religion.They themselves fight with their fellow companions and blaming others for their poverty . You attack others first and when retaliated lick the ass of innocence.
    The master mind of 9/11 were stationed in Afghanistan,when the U.S asked them to hand over these culprit to their law enforcement agency ,Your one eyed thug Mullah Omar refused to budge.You know what the implication of that refusal ,"The Afghan State "as a whole stood at war with the west (read some international law and Geneva convention).Now you cry foul of victimization.You lots are follower in true sense of that thug Mohammed.

  245. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Momo,
    From what you have written, it is clear that you are yet to read the quran, hadith and sira. What does it mean to say that the unbeliever is the vilest thing before allah? Does allah love that which is vile? If it does not, can you love that which allah hates? By allah's pronouncement, even a virus or mosquito is better than an unbeliever. If you kill a mosquito, which is not as vile as an unbeliever, does it make sense for you to spare the unbeliever?
    The quran also says that you should not make friends with the Jews and Christians. If there is no friendship, what is the alternative? I have not seen where the quran talks about being neutral in a relationship. It is either friendship or enmity.
    Dr Sina is only explaining what muhammadanism teaches and stands for.

  246. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Zitouni,
    I strongly suggest that you read all the pages of that link and acquaint yourself with the atrocities by the muhammadans against the Christians.The perpetrators have not denied them but find justification in muhammadanism.

  247. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Zitouni,
    If you are a historian, you would have known that the American Indians are themselves not native to America. They entered there during the last ice age when there was a land corridor linking the Americas to Europe and Asia. Some of the American Indians have been found to have migrated from Europe. What can be said is that they got there before the later settlers. To that extent they can claim more rights.
    Concerning North Africa, there is no migration pattern among the Berbers. They have always been where they are. Now they are a down trodden people in their own land. Let those who came from outside the area go back to wherever they came from. They forced themselves and way of life on the Berbers. They were never welcome but tolerated. Their departure is long over due.

  248. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @Agracean
    I advise you to visit this website to understand Veda, Hinduism, creation, sinful nature and all other things. It is not possible for me due to business to get time for posting comments here
    http://agniveer.com/salvation-hinduism/.

  249. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Zitouni,
    It is in keeping with muhammadan/Arab imperialism that the Arabs who live in N.Africa and Great Syria whose ancestors came from Arabia are minorities yet the wield all the power to the detriment of those who own the land. The majority have to be bent to the wilds of the minority. You have further proved how despotic, inhuman and terrible muhammadanism is.

  250. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Zitouni,
    "THE LAND BELONGS TO ALLAH–BUT TO ITS PROPHET I DO NOT KNOW WHERE DID YOU GET IT"
    Bukhari 53:392 "-while we were in the mosque, the prophet came out and said, 'LET US GO TO THE JEWS'–HE SAID TO THEM–YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THE EARTH BELONGS TO ALLAH AND HIS APOSTLE, AND I WANT TO EXPEL YOU FROM THIS LAND–"'.

    "WHEN THEY HAVE DONE SO IN RECENT TIMES. DO NOT GO BACK 1000 AGO"
    They are doing that right now. That is why they are the rudest pests all over the world. If it was right for them to invade other people's land 1000 years ago, it would have been proper for them to have a taste of their own medicine today. Unfortunately that is not the case. Nobody has invaded muhammadan lands for conquest.

    "THEY HAVE BUILT GREAT CIVILIZATION IN EUROPE YOU ARE SO IGNORANT"
    The slaver always thinks he does the enslaved a favor by dehumanizing him. That is your argument. If the muhammadan occupation had been benevolent in any way, the Europeans would not have thought of emancipation. The conquest took misery and backwardness to Europe. Yusuf ibn Tashfun massacred 240,000 Christians and sent their heads to all the major towns in Iberia and North Africa after the battle of Zalaca. That was an example of muhammadan 'civilization'.

    The latinos got to S. America and the others went to Australia, New Zealand and N. America relatively recently. Long before their arrival there, the Arabs had already dispossessed the Indians of their lives and property. Muhammadan Turkey was the first colonial power ever before Spain.
    The indegenes of North and East Africa being muhammadans has not availed them. The majority Berbers have been arabized by the minority settlers who now lord it over those they met on ground. When was the last time a Berber ruled a North African country? It is a good example of the majority being swallowed by the minority. As we write, the indigenous people of Darfur are being hunted as wild animals by the 'benevolent' Arab slave masters. We are not talking about 1000 years ago. It is all about today.
    The problem we have in Nigeria is the involvement of external elements in our affairs. Muhammadans see Nigeria as a muhammadan country or one that should be muhammadan because of our population and resources. Gaddafi publicly acknowledged that he had sponsored rebellion to destabilize Nigeria because the government of the day, though headed by a muhammadan, did not follow the teachings of that cult. Christians have been the victims of muhammadan pogrom right from the days prior to independence in 1960. If they now decide to defend themselves it is in keeping with their sense of survival. Go back and read the articles in that same link to cure your ignorance of the Nigerian problem.

    In former Yugoslavia the muhammadans were as guilty as the Serbs. Have you not heard of Serbs who were killed by muhammadan militias? Whatever the Serbs did came several hundred years late and did not address the wrong done to them for many centuries.

    "I AM DISCUSSING THE CONFLICT BETWEEN THE WHITE MAN AND THE MUSLIM AND NOT BETWEEN THE MUSLIMS".
    In effect you are being selective instead of being objective. Evil ceases to be that when committed by a muhammadan. No, the discussion is on evil. You can not pick and choose. The white man does not go to the muhammadan country to settle. He goes for business and once that is over he leaves. But the muhammadan does not want to leave the white man's country. Why is the muhammadan so greedy?

    How many American soldiers were in Egypt to prop up Hosni Mubarak? American aid is still going to Egypt. So they are also keeping Morsi in power!

    If America gets discount on oil price, which is doubtful, it comes from bilateral agreements instead of the use of force. The UAE has used its oil revenue sensibly, that is why it has attained a good measure of progress. Those who choose to engage in squander mania have themselves to blame. It is customary for muhammadans to find a scapegoat in some other person to deflect attention from their malfeasance.

  251. zitouni says:

    I told him before bring that money and leave it with an independent group then we debate life after we select judges who are expert on Islam after the debate is over it will be the judges who will declare the winner the money be given to us directly if we won .and what was his reply NOTHING. What liar wants to do is keep this 50K which by the way does not exist after the debate is over he will tell you I won it LOL and not the judges .

  252. zitouni says:

    Who has done with Boston bombings and who was the culprit

    What about daily killing by drones which has killed 100 kids so far . I do not give damn about your dead because you are the intruder and we are the owner of the house . It just does not make sense to talk about what happned to the person who broke in to the house as victim no he is not the victim You got twisted logic . I repeat again stay in your backyard if you refuse then complain to your ass when you are hit by Muslims becasue the intruder has no right in your proptery and deserve it according to all laws in the world

    ,who has beheaded the soldier in London.You are the worst people bashing white man all the time

    Very funny you are crying like bitch for the kiling of SOLDIER who went to kill children in Afghanistan and was involved in recruiting others to do the same while you have nothing to say about his victims

    .You take refuge in their land fondle and rape their girls and woman and than bombing and killing them.

    Ask them to stay in their backyard

    You morons ,thugs like your prophet cut the hands who feeds you.It is the greatness of those white people ,even you people commit lot of atrocities against them in their land they are tolerant about you,don't take their tolerance granted forever or else ……..guess what.

    We do not need their help we just want them to get oout of our land thats all . They are the reason why we are poor

  253. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @Shabeer
    Can you site one example in which created thing does not perish? Have you read science ever? Science also says that matter is never destroyed but changes its form. Suppose a paper is burnt, paper changes its form into ashes. Then ashes are crushed and thrown in air. At this moment, the paper changed into ashes becomes invisible but was never destroyed. Similarly the whole universe at the time of final destruction is turned into prakriti i.e., into unseen form.

  254. Sakat says:

    @Zitouni
    Who has done with Boston bombings and who was the culprit ,who has beheaded the soldier in London.You are the worst people bashing white man all the time .You take refuge in their land fondle and rape their girls and woman and than bombing and killing them.You morons ,thugs like your prophet cut the hands who feeds you.It is the greatness of those white people ,even you people commit lot of atrocities against them in their land they are tolerant about you,don't take their tolerance granted forever or else ……..guess what.

  255. Sakat says:

    @Momo
    Ali Sina has specifically made certain allegations against MAD MOHAMMED and they are 1.Mohammed was pedophile(he married a 6 year old toddler when he was 52);2.He was a robber and coward (attacked Bany Qureze Jews when they were in deep sleep and looted their wealth);3. He had forced his adopted son to divorce his wife Zainab and consummated her;4.Of all the worst sin he has committed was ,killing a noble man ,his children,parents ,clan members and forcibly marring his woman very day and to rape her;5.He was narcissist he killed a old poetess in a gruesome manner, because she has criticized him about his false prophet-hood and thug mentality.The list is long however if you have any authentic documents(true Qur'an,true hadith ,true sira,true sunna) which could refute the above allegations made by Sina against this man called MAD MOHAMMED ,you are free to refer here those documents so that the audience will get true accounts of the real facts.Sina has always referred documents to substantiate his claim.Many people are making tall claims against Sina like you, but when it comes of proving none is racing the competition ,so now you have entered the arena just try your luck.

  256. Agracean says:

    Mr Sanatan Dharma, what does your Vedas has to say about our sinful nature? How does your Vedas deals with it and what is the final solution to solve this sin problem?

  257. Agracean says:

    Mr Sanatan Dharma, if the Vedas teaches you guys that if the Lord God Almighty cannot be confined in an object, then why are there so many Hindu idols all over india? Why are the Hindus worshipping lower mammals like god?

  258. Agracean says:

    Mr Sanatan Dharma, in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

  259. Momo says:

    Ali Sina offers $50,000 reward to anyone who can prove him wrong.

    So funny and coward. …

    If he really speaks the truth and ready to maintain the truth, why only offer $50.000? why not $5000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000? If he's true, he will never be wrong.

    this means that he's afraid that if he is really right or not. He's still doubt about his simple logic 😀
    And this means that his truth can only be valued $50.000.

    I offer you $50000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000, if you can prove that 2 x 2 is not 4.

    Anyone?

  260. Momo says:

    ALI SINA IS A TRUE LIAR AND COWARD. HE WRITES THAT HE WOULD DEBATE THROUGH email BUT HE GIVES US THE WRONG EMAIL. I HAVE SEND AN email to [email protected] BUT IT WAS NOT SENT. FALSE email. COWARD …

  261. zitouni says:

    IHere are some links for you to read what peaceful and poor christains in Nigeria are doing to Muslims
    https://www.google.com.do/#output=search&scli

  262. zitouni says:

    Let me teach you lesson , ignorant . To whom belong N America ? it belongs to the indians right , is the white men native indigenous of N America the answer he is not so it make sense to ask him to leave . Now to who belong N Africa or who are the indegenous of N Africa the answer are the Berbers and they are Muslims so why are you asking or saying that Berbers should stay in their backyard does this make sense to you dummy they are in their backyard .

  263. zitouni says:

    You are so ignorant I swear . To you a Muslim is somobody whose ancestors came from Arabia no dummy . Arabs who lives outiside Arabia ( in N Africa , Great Syria and so on ) and whose ancestors came from Arabia are minorities what you have in those countries indigenous who were arabised by Arabs in 7 century they are not outsiders. Learn history before you open your ignorant mouth

  264. Momo says:

    Ali Sina, I can smell hatred from YOUR VERY OWN LANGUAGE. I can see HATRED in the way you INSULT ISLAM. You yourself said that Islam is a religion of hate, but you yourself SPREAD HATRED and INVITE EVERYONE to HATE Islam and leave it.

    You made up reasons to insult Islam. We muslims are never told to kill, or to hate other peole, we instead are told to love one another. I have tried to remember when in my life I was told to kill, and to hate others by Islamic teaching. I can remember none.

  265. zitouni says:

    It is not only the whites who are killed by muhammadans because they are kafir. Africans are also killed for not believing in Muhammad's nonsense.

    Thats your accusation. The problem that you have in Nigeria is sectarian problem they had it in Europe too. I am talking about problem of foreigners getting involved in somebody else country and not civil wars

    In my country, which is very much African, muhammadans kill on a daily basis. Most of the killings take place while people are worshiping in the church. Are those victims slave masters?

    Chrstians are doing the same in Nigeria

    To say that muhammadans only have problems with 'the slave masters' is a fantastic lie.

    No it is not . Why you have not said anything about latin America

    What about the sunnis and shias killing each other. Are they also 'slave masters' to one another?

    why Catholics and protestant are killing each other plus I am discussing the conflict between white man and Muslims and not between Muslims themselves

    What about the Baha'i in Iran and the Christians in Egypt and Iraq? The truth is that muhammadan problem is endemic because the movement was founded on violence.

    What about Muslims in former Yoguslavia

    America does not control the sale of oil or dictate its price.

    Yes it does they are not going to tell that to you because you are to them just black slave

    That is done by OPEC. Whatever America buys is paid for

    They are getting discount

    and if the oil exporting country does not use its revenue properly it should be held accountable.

    They are forced to recycle money back to USA and sell it in US dollar or they will be toppled

    Egypt continues to be a recipient of American aid. To claim that America aided Mubarak to squander 5 trillion dollars is spurious.

    Who helped that sob to stay in power for that long

    On the occupation of other people's land, it is the muhammadans who are guilty of that. From Mecca where it was founded, muhammadanism has subjugated the peoples of North and East Africa, Persia, India and the territories which used to be Hindu or Buddhist.

    If you want to go back 1000 years ago then you should be fair to ask white men what they are doing in N America and Australia and Newsland and ask latinos what they are doing in S America. I am talking about today and plus do not forget that indigenous of those land are Muslims today so you cannot say they are outsiders while in N America indigenous have been whipped out

    It even spread to Europe enslaving the people there for more than 800 years. Which muhammadan country has been occupied or pillaged for 800 years?

    They have builtt great civilization in Europe you are so ignorant .

    It is the muhamadan who should stay in his backyard and stop invading the lands of others.

    when they have done so in recent time. Do not go back 1000 ago

    It is the tenet of your muhammadanism that the world belongs to allah and its prophet. For that reason you give yourselves the right to steal what belongs to others. It is time to face the truth and acknowledge that such a thing is not tenable.

    The land belong to God which no theist denies that , but to its prophet I do not know where did you get
    it

  266. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Aryan Hindu,
    Our goal on this site and in the world at large is the same: to expose the falsehood called islam and bring about its destruction. But you go off the cuff by claiming that Dr Sina is a Hindu. I am not aware of that conversion which must have been very recent and is yet to be made public. All along, Dr Sina has maintained that he abandoned muhammadanism and is now an atheist. Maybe he has changed hie mind and has embraced Hinduism. The world is waiting to be told.

  267. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Zitouni,
    It is not only the whites who are killed by muhammadans because they are kafir. Africans are also killed for not believing in Muhammad's nonsense. In my country, which is very much African, muhammadans kill on a daily basis. Most of the killings take place while people are worshiping in the church. Are those victims slave masters?
    To say that muhammadans only have problems with 'the slave masters' is a fantastic lie. What about the sunnis and shias killing each other. Are they also 'slave masters' to one another? What about the Baha'i in Iran and the Christians in Egypt and Iraq? The truth is that muhammadan problem is endemic because the movement was founded on violence.
    America does not control the sale of oil or dictate its price. That is done by OPEC. Whatever America buys is paid for and if the oil exporting country does not use its revenue properly it should be held accountable. Egypt continues to be a recipient of American aid. To claim that America aided Mubarak to squander 5 trillion dollars is spurious.
    On the occupation of other people's land, it is the muhammadans who are guilty of that. From Mecca where it was founded, muhammadanism has subjugated the peoples of North and East Africa, Persia, India and the territories which used to be Hindu or Buddhist. It even spread to Europe enslaving the people there for more than 800 years. Which muhammadan country has been occupied or pillaged for 800 years?
    It is the muhamadan who should stay in his backyard and stop invading the lands of others. It is the tenet of your muhammadanism that the world belongs to allah and its prophet. For that reason you give yourselves the right to steal what belongs to others. It is time to face the truth and acknowledge that such a thing is not tenable.

  268. zitouni says:

    Remember that according to Muhammad God will forgive all sins except the sin of disbelief. So you can abuse others, cheat them, and even kill them. As long as you have faith in Muhammad and his Allah all your sins will be forgiven. This is not justice. This is stupid.

    Yes God will forgive all sins , but only if you repent before you died and repetence is once in life time. You cannot for example keep killing and keep repenting no , plus repentance does not mean excemption from the law you will get the death penalty for killing an inocent man so you are going to pay the price . Repentance will only help you in the day of judgment .

    If all religions are from the same God, why no other religion teaches murder of unbelievers?

    And where does Islam teach murdering unbelievers. You have mentioned that in faithfreedom by quoting verse from koran after you forged word in it by changing fight unbelievers into murder unbelievers and I caught you shamne only liar you ahve lost your credibilty . You are an SOB and here you are again doing the same thing why do you keep repeating the same trick and deception

    Why all religious terrorists are Muslims? Why there is so much hate and anger in Muslims? How can a religion, so filled with hatred and fear be from God that is pure love?

    Did you ask yourself why only Muslims are being slaughtered on daily basis by your slave master white men. Muslims do not hate white man because he is kafir we could be hating all kafirs and fighting all kafirs around the word . Have ever heard Muslims killing latinos in S America for example they are too kafirs instead we hear they have good relationship with Muslim countries even with Iran . did you ask yourself why only white man??? . Because he has broken into our homes and he is in our backyard stealing and killing he was told to leave, but he refused so what do you expect from us to do , to sit down and let him continue interfering in our life taking our natural resources making us poor. He installed mafia regimes who ripped the country. Do you know in SA the mafia the CIA regime has stolen 6 trillions dollars so far and mafia CIA regime of Mubarak stole from Egypt 5 trilions.USA is forcing those pigs in gulf nations to sell oil in US dollar by doing so they are making the murderers of Muslims to have enough money to continue in slaughtering Muslims . Who ocupied the land of other we or they do.? and who installed pupet regime in others country we or they do . You know all that , but you blame the victims. Did vietcong read koran for them to fight your slave master for 10 years I do not think so.thats what proud people would do if you invade them be muslim , budist , christians If your slave master want peace tell him to stay in his backyard and stop blaming the victims. Instead of to hold the intruder responsible you are accusing the owner of the house to be the criminal. Are you dumb or drunk ? I doubt but you are is an paid CIA agent spreading lies in your website

    When 1.5 billion people project hatred, they make this world a hell. Islam must be eradicated for the world to become a paradise.

    Muslims do not have problem with the rest of the world only with your slave master the white man

  269. Zitouni says:

    Ali Sina said : Remember that according to Muhammad God will forgive all sins except the sin of disbelief. So you can abuse others, cheat them, and even kill them. As long as you have faith in Muhammad and his Allah all your sins will be forgiven. This is not justice. This is stupid.

    Yes God will forgive all sins , but only if you repent before you died and repetence is once in life time. You cannot for example keep killing and keep repenting no , plus repentance does not mean excemption from the law you will get the death penalty for killing an inocent man so you are going to pay the price . Repentance will only help you in the day of judgment .

    Ali Sina said : If all religions are from the same God, why no other religion teaches murder of unbelievers?

    And where does Islam teach murdering unbelievers. You have mentioned that in faithfreedom by quoting verse from koran after you forged word in it by changing fight unbelievers into murder unbelievers and I caught you shame on you liar you have lost your credibilty . You are an SOB and here you are again doing the same thing why do you keep repeating the same trick and deception

    Ali Sina said : Why all religious terrorists are Muslims? Why there is so much hate and anger in Muslims? How can a religion, so filled with hatred and fear be from God that is pure love?

    Did you ask yourself why only Muslims are being slaughtered on daily basis by your slave master white men. Muslims do not hate white man because he is kafir we could be hating all kafirs and fighting all kafirs around the word . Have ever heard Muslims killing latinos in S America for example they are too kafirs instead we hear they have good relationship with Muslim countries even with Iran . did you ask yourself why only white man??? . Because he has broken into our homes and he is in our backyard stealing and killing he was told to leave, but he refused so what do you expect from us to do , to sit down and let him continue interfering in our life taking our natural resources making us poor. He installed mafia regimes who ripped the country. Do you know in SA the mafia the CIA regime has stolen 6 trillions dollars so far and mafia CIA regime of Mubarak stole from Egypt 5 trilions.USA is forcing those pigs in gulf nations to sell oil in US dollar by doing so they are making the murderers of Muslims to have enough money to continue in slaughtering Muslims . Who ocupied the land of other we or they do.? and who installed pupet regime in others country we or they do . You know all that , but you blame the victims. Did vietcong read koran for them to fight your slave master for 10 years I do not think so.thats what proud people would do if you invade them be muslim , budist , christians . If your slave master want peace tell him to stay in his backyard and stop blaming the victims. Instead of to hold the intruder responsible you are accusing the owner of the house to be the criminal. Are you dumb or drunk ? I doubt but you are is an paid CIA agent spreading lies in your website

    Ali Sina said : When 1.5 billion people project hatred, they make this world a hell. Islam must be eradicated for the world to become a paradise.

    Muslims do not have problem with the rest of the world only with your slave master the white man

  270. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shabby,
    Being evasive and abusive characterize muhammadanism when it is bereft of answers. It does not surprise anyone who is familiar with muhamadanism to see you employ these all the time. What is it that you do not know? That Muhammad was frightened by an eclipse which he took for judgment day? Read Bukhari for the narration. Are you hearing for the first time that he enlisted 'Gabriel' to pray to allah to nullify the effect of the poison?
    Stop exposing your ignorance or falsehood. Read your muhammadan literature and discover how worthless the whole rotten system is.

  271. Aryan Hindu says:

    Volumn 007, Book 071, Hadith Number 608.
    —————————————–
    Narated By Abu Huraira : Allah's Apostle said, '(There is) no 'Adwa (no contagious disease is conveyed without Allah's permission) nor is there any bad omen (from birds), nor is there any Hamah, nor is there any bad omen in the month of Safar, and one should run away from the leper as one runs away from a lion."

  272. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shabby,
    I have chosen to ignore your rudeness and furnish you with facts from muhammadan sources that allah is an inferior being because it prays to a higher entity.
    According to Abdullah bin Ahman in Kitab al Sunna 1:272 Muhammad, while on the miraj/mirage with Gabriel, met allah praying. Asked what its prayer was, Gabriel answered "PRAISE ! PRAISE THE LORD".
    In an Al Jazeera network interview, Sheik Ahmad Al Qattani, President, The Companions Lighthouse For The Science of Islamic Law In Libya said :"AND I BEAR WITNESS THAT OUR MASTER MUHAMMAD–ALLAH'S PRAYERS AND PEACE BE UPON HIM–". Why would allah's prayer be on Muhammad who it supposedly created?
    Palmer in his version of the quran talks about allah and its angels praying on Muhammad.
    You are totally ignorant of the insanity you subscribe to in the name of religion. Stop embarrassing yourself in a public forum like this.

  273. Aryan Hindu says:

    This is a Hindu Website. Ali Sina is a Hindu.Since Hinduism is the exact opposite of Islam, promoting Hinduism and destroying Islam are one and the same thing.

  274. Aryan Hindu says:

    Idols are representative of divine,not divine itself.

  275. NoBody says:

    The New World-Thought is evidenced by the New Freedom. The new freedom is, therefore, a freedom to express one's self abundantly by becoming firmly rooted to the Whole, developing great strength by taking the abundance given by the Whole which one needs for the purpose of multiplying it for the service of the Whole and NOT alone for self OR any part of the Whole. Every Religion practiced today has an us against them vein running through them based on fear and hatred. These will all be eliminated in the New World Thought. Jesus was the only Supreme human to be on this earth so far. His message is a beacon to the New World Thought.
    The Glory and Art of living will be in the ability of the individual to balance the abundance of that which is given him/her with the abundance if his/her Giving.
    Nature, is neither altruistic, charitable, philanthropic, nor self-sacrificing. She does not give of herself in that spirit, and neither should man. She only gives what passes through her for Transformation. Man;s regiving should likewise be for the purpose of transformation.
    All Nature is built upon good thoughts followed by good actions. All man-made institutions which are so built will endure forever. Good actions are balanced actions.

  276. shabeer says:

    #This creation and destruction has been happening continuously like day and night ………….
    "In the third heaven above us stands the Asvattha tree (Banyan tree i.e. Ficus Religiosa), the seat of gods. There the gods sought the Kushtha Plant, embodiment of endless life." 4. "There moved through heaven a golden ship, a ship with cordage wrought of Gold. There the Gods won the Kushtha Plant, the blossom of eternal life." 5."They sailed on pathways paved with gold, the oars they piled were wrought of gold: All golden were the ships wherein they carried Kushtha down to earth." [Atharvaved Kaand 5; Sookt 4; Mantras 3-5]
    "Make me immortal in that realm where dwells the King, Vivasvat's Son (i.e Yama), where is the secret shrine of heaven, where are those waters young and fresh. Flow, Indu, flow for Indra's sake." [Rigveda Mandal 9; Sookt 113; Mantra 8]
    "Look you happily along the road of righteousness, by which go the Angiras, well doers; by those paths go you to heaven, where Adityas feed on honey; that sorrowless world, spread you out upon the third heaven." [Atharvaved 18:4:3-4]
    "..Ara and Nya are two lakes in the world of Brahman, in the third heaven from hence; and there is the lake Airam madiya…" [Chandogya Upanishad – Prapathak 8; Khanda 5; Mantra 3]
    "If Agni Jātavedas, as he bore you hence to the Fathers' world, had left one single limb of your bodies, here do I restore it. Fathers, rejoice in heaven with all your organs!" [Atharvaveda 16:4:64]
    Shatpath Brahman Kaand 10, Adhyay 4, Brahaman 4, Kaandika 4 says,

    "Wherefore let him who knows this by all means practise austerities; for, indeed, when he who knows this practises austerities, even to (abstention from) sexual intercourse, every (part) of him will share in the world of heaven"
    "Boneless, pure, cleansed with the wind, brilliant, they go to a brilliant world. The fire does not burn their male organ. In Swarga they get plenty of women." [Atharvaved 4:34:2]
    sree krishna says to arjuna " hathova prapasasi sorgam jitho va bokshasea mahim thasmadhuthishta kounthaya kritha nischaya "
    (Bagavath geetha 2:37)
    if you win the moral war you can rule people/kingdom or die you can get the paradise(sorgam ,not conversion to parabrahma or reform to god)

    " aneka chitha vibrantha moha jala sama vritha prasaktha kamabhogeshu pathanthi narakea shuchou "(Bagavath geetha 16:16)

    that means acharya krishna & his follower arjun belive the sorga/naraka.

    We can’t saw even a single verse from Rig Veda about Reincarnation, but Veda mention the life after death. It indicate that period of Veda saint does not understand Reincarnation. Death, judgment day and life after death Rig Veda indicate life experience of another world. Reincarnation making by people for little profit. We can’t saw even single verses from old Upanishath.

    basic veda sahithy like chathur veda sahithya like Rigveda,sama,yajur veda.we can saw the begning of the theory reincreation chandakyoth upanishid(5:10:7) ,before it we can't saw the verses about it.

    We can saw the verses from Upanishath that after the dead good people going to haven, they never died.( Shwethashathora Upanishath
    3:10), (Eshavaswa Upanishath 14, 12, 3)
    There is contradiction between the Hindu belief and Veda; here we can saw that the Brahmins are dead, upanishith say “they never died”.

    “No fear, not wrinkled and always happy” (kado Upanishath 12).contradiction again, the entire Human got fear, unhappy and wrinkled.

    Reincarnation was created by rishis like king Jaiwaly and Brahman Aruni from chandyokath during the period of ‘vidika karmakanda’; because people deviated from the path of truth and morality. They make Reincarnation only for hold the people trust.we can saw from chandyokath rishis king jaiwly belive this was a miracle discovery,that means,as a rishi,he never heared befor the theory of reincration in his life. (Vishwa darshanam rahul samskrithyayan page 579)

  277. shabeer says:

    # Souls and nature uncreated.????????????/

    One god was the reason for all the creation. His existence was above the sky (Rig Veda 10:129:1,-2 – 0:129:6, 7)

    First of all hernias (one god) only existing here, he create all things in our universe. Universe follows his rules and regulation. he has many sense organ, he saw all the things alone (Rig Veda 10:121:1) (Shwethashathora Upanishad 3:3,4)

    What are the basic things of creation of this universe? .one god creates universe by his own power (shuklaya yejur Veda 17:-18)

    All the Planet and all the stars are depends to one god (Adarva Veda 13:-5 to 22)
    He (one god) created and protects universe, earth, sky and space between sky and earth (Adarva Veda 7:26:4)
    He controlled the entire world, he is alone. He (Greatness) looking (Vivacious) his creation (Rig Veda 8:25:16) (Shwethashathora Upanishath 16:17)
    First of all hernias (one god) only existing here he create all things in our universe. Universe follows his rules and regulation (Rig Veda 10:121:1) (Shwethashathora Upanishad 3:4)

    What are the basic things of creation of this universe? .one god creates universe by his own power (shuklaya yejur Veda 17:-18)

    All the Planet and all the stars are depends to one god (Adarva Veda 13:5 to 22)

    “Thamitham nikitham sahas’a yeshaka yekavritheka yeka yekatham devameka vritham Veda sarve asmin deva yekavritho bavathi”

    He is alone (one). Believe he ever exists alone. There are no two gods (Adarva Veda 13-5-20, 21)
    What is the power we can’t understand from our soul? But it gives all the power of soul. You understand that it is the Para Brahma (god).
    (Keno Upanishath 1: 7).

    Rig Veda [01-089,5 ]Him we invoke for aid who reigns supreme, the Lord of all that stands or moves, inspirer of the soul,
    That Pusan may promote the increase of our wealth, our keeper and our guard infallible for our good.

    #most exalted of humans are gifted with knowledge of Vedas………………….
    Yajur Veda 33.43
    “The sun moves in its own orbit in space taking along with itself the mortal bodies like earth
    through force of attraction.”
    Rig Veda 1.35.9
    “The sun moves in its own orbit but holding earth and other heavenly bodies in a manner that
    they do not collide with each other through force of attraction.
    Yajur Veda 23.10 The Sun moves single and alone
    Rig Veda 10.149.1
    “The sun has tied Earth and other planets through attraction and moves them around itself as if a trainer
    moves newly trained horses around itself holding their reins.”
    In this mantra,
    Savita = Sun
    Yantraih = through reins
    Prithiveem = Earth
    Aramnaat = Ties
    Dyaam Andahat = Other planets in sky as well
    Atoorte = Unbreakable
    Rig Veda 10:149:1 SAVITAR fixed the earth with bands to bind it, and made heaven stedfast
    where no prop supported.
    Atharva Veda 4.11.1“The sun has held the earth and other planets”
    Atharva Veda 4.5.1, Rig Veda 7.55.7 The Bull (the sun who causes rain) who hath a thousand horns, who
    rises up from out the sea,
    Rig Veda 10.22.14
    “This earth is devoid of hands and legs, yet it moves ahead. All the objects over the earth also move with
    it. It moves around the sun.
    Rig Veda 10.85.9
    “Moon decided to marry. Day and Night attended its wedding. And sun gifted his daughter “Sun
    ray” to Moon.''
    Rig Veda 7.104.11, Atharva Veda 8.4.11 May he be swept away, himself and children: may all the three
    earths press him down beneath them.
    Rig Veda 7.83.3 The boundaries of earth were seen all dark with dust
    Rig Veda 6.72.2 Ye, Indra-Soma, gave her light to Morning, and led the Sun on high with all his
    splendour. Ye stayed the heaven with a supporting pillar, and spread abroad apart, the Earth, the
    Mother.

  278. Yinyang energy says:

    And also millions of them are jobless and living in poverty. Millions, too, are starving and suffering in the refugee tents. Many of the refugee women prostituted themselves, or get married to abusive old men just to earn some money for survival in Lebanon. And their god called them the best of creation.

  279. Yinyang energy says:

    That is why they are always fighting among themselves from day one till end times.

  280. shabeer says:

    BROTHER THIS IS THE PLACE FOR MORAL/TRUSTFUL,WE R HERE FOR ANSWERING SOME VALUABLE COMMENTS ,NOT FOR ANSWERING SOME BRAIN DEAD PEOPLE PERSONAL/FOOLISH COMMENT WITHOUT A VALUABLE EVIDENCE,PLZ BEHAVE KINDLY,AVOID U'R PERSONAL OPINION,IF U LIKE TO DEBATE WITH MUSLIM ,PLZ BRING THE AUTHORIZED EVIDENCE FROM THE SCRIPTURES OR PLZ SHUT UP U'R MOUTH…………………………

  281. shabeer says:

    # he saw allah praying……………………if u have rights authorized evidence from u'r claim,plz post it here ,don't behave like a coward or fool……………………..plz bring the evidence for " he saw allah praying "……….or publicly admit u'r lie ……………………

  282. vijay says:

    Like Protestants in your faith, sister Gracy our SD does not worship an idol but opposes it.

  283. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @shabeer
    Great pakistani, Afganistani, Somalian, terrorist are fruit of Islam. Why do all the terrorists Muslims? Why was Saddam, Osama were Muslim? All these terrorist Muslim had full faith in Allah.They fought on the way of Allah.

  284. Sanatan Dharma says:

    This website is for exposing Muhammad, Islam & Allah from rational, scientific and humanistic point of view. What if rationality and humanity somehow or some extent reconciles with Hinduism, Buddhism and Christianity

  285. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shankar,
    Good question. I often wonder if the purpose of this site has not been hijacked for the promotion of some other cause.

  286. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Slave mentality,
    Your 'prophet' was quite a fool. He also said that nearer to the 'believers' were the Christians. The idiot did not know what to think. He would say one thing and contradict himself the next moment. Muhammadanism is a product of confusion.

  287. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @Agracean
    Please clarify me what are sins you are talking about you have done? What do you mean when you say final solutions of our sins through Jesus Christ?
    //God humbled Himself and became flesh//

    Do you mean Jesus was the God himself?
    //human beings break the universal law//

    What are these universal law? How did human break them?

  288. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @Agracean
    When I say Veda I meant rational thinking, noble actions and positive emotions is the only way to the Truth.

  289. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @Ali Sina
    //A self-sufficient god creates humans so they worship him? If the goal of creation is to worship God then God is not self-sufficient. He must be a needy God. If I make a chair, it is because I need it. If I don’t need a chair, why would I make it? If God does not need humans why did he make them? If he needs them then he is a needy god. A needy god cannot be God.//

    Your thoughts very similar to Veda. Souls and nature uncreated.
    As per Vedas,
    1. Entire Nature exists in elementary form before creation. All souls (except those who have reached Mukti or salvation) remain unconscious.
    2. Then Ishwar performs Ikshan or motivates a change in the Nature. This causes Nature to change from its elementary form to something more gross.
    3. Gradually grosser forms like various objects are created. These include Mind, Ego, Senses, Work tendencies, Planets, Stars, Galaxies etc etc. All this happens in a gradual process as per unchangeable laws of Ishwar.
    4. Once creation is complete, and necessary conditions for souls are created, souls are given birth in various species (as per the deeds of previous creation cycle) on various earths on various points of time.
    5. Finally, human species is given birth. Several humans take birth in both genders as per Vedas and not one Adam-Eve as wrongly believed. They have different genetic makeups and hence can inter-marry. Thus we do not have to blame Allah or God for promoting incest or marriage between brothers and sisters during beginning of human civilization.
    6. The most exalted of humans are gifted with knowledge of Vedas.
    7. They then train other humans in Vedic wisdom and hence process of civilization begins.
    8. Depending on actions, souls keep taking birth and death on various earths in various species in various environments.
    9. Those souls who get rid of ignorance beyond a threshold level no more need to take birth because the purpose of birth is fulfilled for them. They achieve Mukti or Moksha or Salvation and enjoy bliss of Ishwar continuously for a long time equalling several creation and destruction cycles. We shall discuss this aspect later.
    10. During the entire process, universe is gradually changing and moving further to destruction phase.
    11. Finally process of destruction happens. The souls are unconscious during this stage. The destruction phase continues for some time that is known only by Ishwar or Mukta souls who have achieved salvation.
    12. Finally new creation begins. Again the same process is repeated. And souls take birth as per fruits of the actions in last cycle of creation. The process continues like this.
    13. This creation and destruction has been happening continuously like day and night since beginninglessness and would continue forever. This is eternal.

  290. Agracean says:

    Mr Sanatan Dharma, let me reiterate once again that your Vedas is not the Way, the Truth and the Life but full of half truth and lies.

  291. Agracean says:

    Mr Sanatan Dharma, I'm referring to all the Hindu idols that you worship like god.

  292. Agracean says:

    Mr Sanatan Dharma, do you think that our loving Creator God delights in punishment or send souls to hell? No, not at all! The reason why our great loving Creator God humbled Himself and became flesh, to be like one of us and died on that cruel cross, to pay for the perfect penalty for the full redemption of our soul and to rose again on the third day, for our justification is because we, human beings break the universal law and there is absolutely no hope for us to be saved.Only the Creator of this perfect universal law can save us from this eternal death because only He, has the final solution to our sin problem and the final solution is through Jesus Christ.

  293. Slave of Prophet says:

    @Shankar
    Christian are worst people. "Prophet said not be friend of Christians and Jews. They are worst of creature." Prophet said not allow them nearby Masjid-Ul-Haram. Islam is only true religion.

  294. shankar says:

    brahmins also had made suffer lower caste people a lot in the past. They did not use to let people read and write but when people started stydying they left their priesthood out of insecurity .At least islam does not discriminate the people that i know ..but best is christian.

  295. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @Agracean
    Enlightened Way of Life/religion of Ali Sina, Buddha and other philosophers : rational thinking, noble actions and positive emotions
    Vedas themselves assert that one should not be bookish in exploring truth. Even so-called books of Vedas are not to be trusted blindly. Vedas assert that the wisdom of Vedas is already embedded inside our thought process. And human life is an opportunity to extract that wisdom out through rational thinking, noble actions and positive emotions. Vedas – as books – are supposed to simply assist this process.
    In fact Vedas are derived from root Vid that means knowledge or enlightenment. So even if one scandalously destroys or distorts all the Vedas, no worries. One simply needs to take recourse to rational thinking, noble actions, positive emotions and nurture out the Vedic principles by integrating wisdom of enlightened ones in the society.

  296. shankar says:

    is it a hindu promiting website or anti islamic website?

  297. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @Agracean
    //God of the whole Universe cannot be confined in an object//
    Where I said God is confined in an object? On the contrary I agree with Mantra
    Yajurveda 32.11
    God is name of force/power/entity which resides at each point in universe. No space is devoid of Him. He is self-sustaining and does not need help of any agent, angel, prophet or incarnation to perform His duties. The soul which is able to realize this One and only One God achieves Him and enjoys unconditional ultimate bliss or Moksha.

  298. Slave of Prophet says:

    @sunsetsinmuddywater
    //Prophet Muhammad taught others to "run away from the leper as one runs away from a lion."//
    Do you have proof to prove this?

  299. sunsetsinmuddywater says:

    One of Mohammad's greatest teachings…..

    Prophet Muhammad taught others to "run away from the leper as one runs away from a lion." He also put an end to two of his relationships with women on account of them being afflicted with leprosy. Amra bint Yazid, whom he divorced in circa 631 before consummating the marriage when he saw she had symptoms. And Jamra bint Al-Harith, whose own father informed Muhammad in circa 631 that she suffered from the disease, whereupon Muhammad broke off the engagement

  300. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @Agracean
    Do not you think it is unjust if God punishes Jesus for your sins? Why will God punish Jesus for your Sins?

  301. Agracean says:

    Mr Sanatan Dharma, I can't help shaking my head as I read your above super long comment. You are a confused man and you know not the truth. Like what I've explained so many times before in my earlier comments, the God of the whole Universe cannot be confined in an object. Therefore, something is terribly wrong with those religion whose followers worship all kinds of idols because those religions are not telling the truth and yet, you prefer to accept all such kinds of fanciful lies than the absolute truth. It will be wise of you if you could make up your mind and search for the Way, the Truth and the Life.

  302. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shabby,
    Nobody created GOD that is why HE does not swear by anything lower than HIM and does not pray. Your allah swears by creations and even symbols of pagan gods who must be greater than it. Muhammad said that during the miraj or (better) mirage, he saw allah praying. One can only pray to a higher being. Therefore, there is a Being higher than allah. Something, somewhere created allah.

  303. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shabby,
    The fruits of muhammadanism are wars, misery, murder, brigandage, slavery, destruction, ignorance, rape, poverty( both of mind and materials), continuous violence, child molestation, women degradation, senseless presentations ( such as the ones you make) etc.

  304. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shabby,
    If your 'prophet Muhammad' was or would be the first to enter 'paradise', why was he afraid that the eclipse which occurred was the judgment hour? It is obvious that he knew he would not enter paradise because of his evil deeds.
    Again, why was he afraid to die but prayed to allah, with the aid of Gabriel, to save him from the agony of death? There was no relieve as allah went deaf, dumb and blind. Would a man who was sure of entering paradise have wanted to skip the opportunity?
    His desire to see Abu Bakr being the first among his followers to enter 'paradise' is understandable. Abu Bakr was one of Muhammad's financiers. How else was the man to be compensated for his money Muhammad used in sponsoring his illusion, if not a promise of some lofty position in a non existent realm? Besides, Abu Bakr was the father of Muhammad's favorite wife. It could only take a man as gullible as Abu Bakr to give a six year old child in marriage to a 51 year old man who claimed that the union was blessed by allah and shown to him in a dream. It shows the degree of depravity on the part of both the ' father in-law' and the ' son in-law'.
    The muhammadan paradise is different from heaven.Even at that, Muhammad has been shut out of 'paradise' according to Anas but people like Enoch and Elijah were taken up to heaven.

  305. shabeer says:

    WHO DELETED MY REPLY FOR SEEKER?

  306. shabeer says:

    WHAT WAS THE FRUITS OF ISLAM? SOME BRAIN DEAD PERSON ARGUMENT OR ITS AUTHORIZED SCRIPTURES ?

  307. shabeer says:

    THE FIRST MAN FROM THE MANKIND ENTER TO PARADISE WAS PROPHET MUHAMMED[S]:

    The first of mankind to enter Paradise will be our Prophet Muhammad (saw) and the first nation to enter Paradise will be his ummah. The first member of this ummah to enter will be Abû Bakr as-Siddiq (ra).

    Ibn Kathîr quotes a number of Hadîth [an-Nihayah, 2/213] that state this such as the report of Muslim from Anas (ra) according to which the Messenger of Allâh (saw) said,
    "I will be the first one to knock at the gates of Paradise".
    Muslim also reported from Anas that the Messenger of Allâh (saw) said:
    "I will come to the gates of paradise and ask for it to be opened. The gatekeeper will ask, "Who are you?" I will say, "Muhammad". The gatekeeper will say, "I was ordered not to open the gate for anyone else before you"".
    Al-Bukhâri, Muslim and an-Nasâ'î report from Abû Hurayrah (ra) that the Prophet (saw) said:
    "We are the last, but we will be the first on the Day of Resurrection. We will be the first of mankind to enter Paradise".
    Abû Dawûd reports from Abu Hurayrah (ra) that the Prophet (saw) said,
    "Jibrîl came to me, and showed me the gate of Paradise through which my ummah will enter". Abû Bakr said, "O Messenger of Allâh (saw), would that I had been with you to see it!". The Messenger of Allâh (saw) "But you, O Abu Bakr, will be the first of my ummah to enter Paradise".

  308. shabeer says:

    # non-worshiper in eternal hellfire……………………..

    ALLHA WAS CREATOR/CONTROLLER EACH ATOM TO ENTIRE UNIVERSE,HE CREATED ALL THINGS IN PERFECT MANNER,THERE IS NO ERROR IN HIS CREATION,WE HUMAN ARE DEPEND ALL THINGS FROM OUR CREATOR,GOD NEVER CREATOR US FOR HIS JUST TIME PASS,WE CREATED FOR WORSHIP[ISLAMIC LIFE] FOR HIM,AS A CREATOR HE HAS RESPONSIBLE TO LEAD US ,HE DID IT FROM ADAM[A] TO PROPHET MUHAMMED [S],HE SEND 140000 PROPHET TO DIFFERENT SOCIETY WITH SCRIPTURES ,THE RIGHT WAY ,HE TECH THEM WHAT GOOD & WHAT THE BAD ? IF U DID LIKE SO & SO…………U WILL GOING TO HEAVEN……………OR IF U DID LIKE SO &SO U WILL GOING TO HELL……………ALL THE QUANTITY OF GOOD THINGS & ALL THE QUALITY BAD THINGS GOD TEACH THEM THROUGH THE PROPHET & SCRIPTURE ,THINK THAT WE EVER CREATED EVEN AN ATOM FROM OUR UNIVERSE. FROM INSIDE OUR MOTHER WOMB TO DEATH ,HE PROTECT/KEEP US,PER SECOND 5000 CHEMICAL REACTION GOING ON OUR EACH CELL,IS ONE OF THEM,WE EVER BOTHERED CONTROL AT LEAST 'ONE' SINCE OUR BIRTH? ALL CREATED GOD CREATED HUMAN FOR LIVING IDEAL PATH,IF WE MOVE TO WARDS HIM ONE STEP ,HE MOVE TO WARDS US 100 STEP,HE LOVE US ,HOW MUCH A BREAST FEEDING MOTHER LOVE HIS BABY SINCE THE HUMAN BEGGING TO HUMAN END, CAN U IMAGINE LOVE FROM MANKIND /ANIMALS FROM THEIR HISTORY HOW MUCH WAS THAT? BELIEVE THAT ITS ONLY 1% OF MY LORD ,IE HE KEEP 99% FOR LOVE TO HIS CREATION ……………………IE HE PUNISH ONLY THE PEOPLE OF WHO WALKING THE PATH OF SATAN,,,,,,,,QURAN IS THERE ,HADEETH IS THERE ,SCHOLARS IS THERE , ISLAMIC SITE IS THERE ,ISLAM LIVING HERE ………..IF U LIKE DO ANY THING FOR U'R CREATOR,PLZ COME TO PATH OF MOST SUPERIOR RELIGION……………OR U CAN DO WHAT EVER U CAN……………….U NEVER LIKE ISLAMIC WAY OF LIFE …………..THEN ARGUING US TO WHY ALLHA PUT US TO HELL AFTER THE DEATH…………THINK IT……….LOGIC? A LAZY STUDENT DON'T LIKE STUDY ,BUT HE WANT FIRST RANK FOR EXAMINATION ……………….LOGIC?

    WHAT THE REQUIREMENT OF HELL/HAVEN:

    WHY WE ALWAYS FOLLOW THE GOOD THINGS ,WHY WE AVOID HOMICIDE,RAPE,ADULTERY,THEFT,CHEATING,HATE,GRUDGE,HOMOSEXUAL,NIGHT CLUB,MUSIC,BRIBERY,ROBBERY,ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES,SUCH ALL BAD THINGS…………..THERE IS NO HELL/HEAVEN THE MANKIND DISTORTED THOUSANDS OF Y'RS AGO…………WHAT THE PURPOSE WE DID GOOD THINGS? HELL/HEAVEN R THE CREATION OF ALMIGHTY GOD …………FROM THE MANKIND HISTORY HOW MANY INNOCENT PEOPLE DIED ,HOW MANY BLOOD SHED ? WAR ? HOW MANY DROP BLOOD FALL ON EARTH FROM THE MANKIND HISTORY ,MY Q'N IN HUMAN HISTORY ANY PERIOD OR DAY OR EVEN HRS IS THERE FOR
    " A COMPLETE JUSTICE " NO……….THAT MEANS A DAY REQUIRED FOR COMPLETE JUSTICE,MONEY & POWER & POLITICIAN RULED THE WORLD ,THERE IS NO JUSTICE………….CONSIDER HITLER KILLED 6 MILLION PEOPLE ,MYQ'N IS HOW MANY TIME HE DIED? ONE …IS IT JUSTICE ………….NO ……………A COMPLETE JUSTICE REQUIRED FOR ALL MANKIND ,IT THE DREAM OF A JUSTER OR MORAL OR GOOD PERSON & PEOPLE…………..HOW MANY INJUSTICE HAPPENING FROM THE MANKIND HISTORY …………IS IT DIED THROUGH DEATH OF THE RELATED PEOPLE …………………NO JUDGEMENT DAY WILL BE THERE FOR ALL OF US …………….

  309. Aryan Hindu says:

    You may a sinner. But I am a precious child of the Immortal Goddess. I fear none. My mother is the queen of the universe.

  310. shabeer says:

    # God created us so that we could worship Him……………….
    MY F POST I SAYS GOD NEVER REQUIRED OUR WORSHIP TO HIS EXISTENCE ,HE SELF CONSISTENCE,WE REQUIRED HIM FOR ALL…………….. AS A CREATOR HE HAS RESPONSIBLE TO US ,WHAT THE PURPOSE WE CREATED FOR ,WHAT THE WAY A HUMAN ACHIEVE HIS SALVATION,HUMAN INCAPABLE UNDERSTANDING MAJOR OUR PHYSICAL /SPIRITUAL KNOWLEDGE.A ISLAMIC WAY OF LIFE ONLY LEADS US TO THE SUPERIOR LEVEL OF LIFE /DUTY/KARMA,ETC…………………ITS NOT FOR GOD ,ITS ONLY FOR HUMAN GOOD WILL…………………..

    #why since beginninglessness God was all alone………………….BASELESS COMMENTS ,SUPPOSE CONSIDER,THEY R SO MANY ,IS ITS PROBLEM SOLVED?

    # T1, He HAS to keep creating us at other time periods …………..ANOTHER BASELESS COMMENT…..ACCORDING TO ISLAM THE SUPREME CREATOR GOD HAS NEITHER BEGGING NOR ENDING,THAT IS HE EVER EXISTING ,WHAT THE TIME/SPACE ? IT EXISTED ONLY THIS PHYSICAL UNIVERSES ,BEYOND OUR UNIVERSE,THERE IS NO TIME/SPACE ,AS A CREATED OBJECT ONLY REQUIRED THE TIME /SPACE ,THE CREATOR NEVER REQUIRED IT,& MORE HE WAS THE CREATOR THIS TIME /S APACE FOR THE EXISTENCE LIVING/NON LIVING ORGANISM………….FIRST FIRST POINT WAS ,WE R HUMAN BEING OUR BRAIN CREATED ONLY FOR THIS UNIVERSE ,NOT SUITABLE BEYOND THE UNIVERSE ,BE'S OUR NATURE ,NEVER RELATED/SUITABLE FOR THAT ,WE EVER THE SPIRITUAL FROM OUR SENSE ORGAN…………….

    GOD NEITHER BEGGING NOR ENDING BEC'S HIS NATURE BEYOND OUR PHYSICAL WORLD ,THAT MEANS ALL HAS TIME PERIOD FROM UNIVERSE TO EACH ATOM ,I AM A CREATION OF GOD MY EXISTING IN THIS UNIVERSE IS ONLY THE TIME PERIOD BETWEEN MY BIRTH TO DEATH ,BEFORE THE BIRTH OR AFTER THE DEATH ,I AM ,NOT PART OF THIS UNIVERSE ,THAT MEAN EVERY CREATION REQUIRED A TIME PERIOD……………………

    THERE R FOUR POSSIBILITIES IS THERE CREATION OF HUMAN /GOD

    1) HUMAN CREATED FIRST THEN GOD [WE KNOW FOOLISHNESS ,IE CREATION BEFORE CREATED LOGICALLY BASELESS]

    2) GOD AND HUMAN CREATED @ THE SAME TIME [QUESTION IS WHO CREATED GOD & WHO CREATED HUMAN ]

    3) GOD CREATED FIRST THEN GOD CREATED HUMAN [THERE IS A SUPREME GOD REQUIRED TO CREATION OF SECOND GOD]

    THE NATURAL RELIGION OF EVER CLAIM THE BASELESS/WEAK ABOVE ARGUMENT……………

    4) GOD NEITHER BENIGN /CREATION LIKE NOR END……………………NATURALLY A PERIOD TIME REQUIRED FOR THE HUMAN/ORGANISM ,THAT HE CREATED…………………

  311. catalyst@99 says:

    @ali sina, i asked this in your previous post but u dint reply. please answer.
    i have read about an old women during the time of the prophet named umm qirza who was killed allegedly by mohammed for writing against him. recently i came across an article by muslims, trying to defend their prophet and portraying the old lady evil. here is the link : http://www.islamicsearchcenter.com/archive/2010/0….
    if u have time please read it and say if they (muslims) are right.

  312. catalyst@99 says:

    commenting in the ffi site is really difficult. i tried several times, but failed

  313. Sol Landet says:

    Infidels have better intelligence, but they are also less violent than muslims.
    At least, it seems that islam is dong the same mistake Hitler did (Attacking too many countries at the same time, while people in islamia try to free themselves from their leaders)

  314. avika says:

    @shabeer: You don't have to quote that much.
    We can say that a religion is good or bad by looking into its fruits. Look in the fruits of islam and what muslim do in the name of allah, anyone who has a normal conscience will know is islam good or not.

  315. phoenix says:

    Shabeer,I don't think you really know what evidence means.But I'll try to give you an example and I'm going to assume you're a dad and your wife is not a pre-teen.So your child grows up and eventually decide that Islam is no longer beneficial to him/her and seeks another way of life.Is it true that will hate and try to kill your child for leaving Islam?

    Yes or No?

  316. Yinyang energy says:

    Pat Condell Straight Talking in You tube makes a lots of sense

  317. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @Agracean
    Principles over Persons
    A Christian cannot be Christian unless he believes in Jesus Christ. A Muslim cannot be Muslim if he refuses to believe Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as last prophet. Regardless of whatever good that may be in texts of these religions, one must first believe in these pre-conditions – the special status of these people – to be eligible for anything else in these texts.
    For example, if I believe in all the noble verses in Quran (which I firmly believe in), but reject those verses that call Muhammad Sahib as last prophet (because the concept of avatars or prophets does not appeal to my rational mind), I will not be considered a Muslim. In fact if I call myself Muslim because I like a large number of verses in Quran, but reject the concept of Prophethood, I may be put to death in certain countries on charges of blasphemy.
    Christians have become much more liberal but nonetheless the word ‘Christian’ itself states that belief in Christ is a must.
    Now this may be a very good thing to inculcate discipline in certain situations. I am not arguing their merits or demerits.
    But to my democratic and liberal mind, Hinduism appeals so much more for respecting and even celebrating my individuality. It makes me feel so much special and values my uniqueness. It has no concept of blasphemy. It is not threatened by views, deeds, speeches or writings of a few individuals. On contrary, it embraces even them into its fold, if they are driven by honesty.
    Hinduism, due to its emphasis on honesty, does not offer any mandatory persons as pre-conditions. Yes, a large number of people may worship Krishna, Ram, Durga, Kali, Shiva, Hanuman and many other Gods and Goddesses. Some worship a particular God or Goddess exclusively, some worship everyone. There are innumerable Gods and Goddesses and many are of even recent origin. For example Santoshi Mata, Gayatri Mata or Sai Baba. For many it has become even a fraud business to resurrect a new God or Goddess and mint money on religious feelings of masses. Yes that is an issue of concern and pointed by many as weakness of Hinduism.
    But that is not the complete picture. In reality, Hinduism offers freedom of choice without being dictatorial or judgmental. What critics of Hinduism forget to emphasize is that Hinduism is the ONLY way of life that ALSO offers worship of principles ALONE. In fact even the so-called idol worshippers agree that while idol-worship may be first step, the ultimate goal is to reach a state of worship of principles ALONE.
    Thus huge number of Hindus believe in formless God. Many are even atheists. Many believe only in core tenets – Patience, Forgiveness, Self-control, Non-Stealing, Purity, Control of Sense, Wisdom, Knowledge Enhancement, Honesty, Non-Violence.
    So you can be a Hindu even if you don’t believe in any particular person or avatar or even concept of God. You simply have to be honest to yourself, and need not even take certificate of honesty from anyone.
    And that is exactly why so many reform movements took place within Hinduism. Many schools fiercely debated and at times even abused other schools of thought. But that did not make them less Hindu. All of them naturally assimilated within Hinduism.
    Sometimes freedom also tends to nurture social evils due to lack of enlightenment of masses. This is true for any society and any sphere of life. People misuse freedom to break signals and behave like rowdies. That does not mean Freedom is bad. It means there is need to emphasize the importance of responsibility that comes with freedom. It means we need to find ways to make freedom even more meaningful.
    Hinduism offers a way to combat these through wisdom and intellect. That is why Hinduism is not static. It is ever-flowing and ever-dynamic. It makes me love and enjoy being Hindu so much more!

  318. Yinyang energy says:

    For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
    For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.
    Not fair to make judgement of this,
    Until you see what the Fire Chief says!!!!
    In South Los Angeles, a 4-plex home was destroyed by a fire.
    A Mexican family of six, all welfare recipients and gang members, lived on the first floor. They died.
    An Islamic group of seven welfare cheats, all illegally in the country from Kenya, lived on the second floor. They, too, all perished.
    Six LA, Hispanic, gang bangers & ex-cons lived on the 3rd floor. They, too, died.
    A white couple lived on the top floor.
    The couple survived the fire.
    Jesse Jackson, John Burris and Al Sharpton were furious!! They flew into LA and met with the fire chief. On camera, they loudly demanded to know why blacks, Muslims and Hispanics all died in the fire and why only the white couple lived?
    The Fire Chief said, "They were at work."
    This has just got to keep circulating. It's too good!

  319. Agracean says:

    Dear Mr Sanatan Dharma, it's time to wake up from your Vedic wet dream and start searching for the absolute truth. Whether you like it or not, the truth is that Heaven is real and hell is real too. Please note that no amount of good works can justify and save sinners like us when we stand before the great God of the Universe except by the precious shed blood of Jesus Christ, who died to set us free.

  320. Yinyang energy says:

    Don't u have many Hindustani heroes in Bollywood, who can slay all the enemies ? hahahaha !

  321. sunsetsinmuddywater says:

    The apostle of Allah said, "Gabriel brought a kettle from which I ate and I was given the power of sexual intercourse to forty men."

    Allah was busy trying to increase Mohammad's sexual libido, may be that's the reason he was not able to save him from Zaynab's poison.

    The apostle of Allah sent for her (Jewess) and asked her, "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I wanted to know if you are a prophet, in that case it will not harm you and if you are a king, I shall relieve the people of you. He gave orders and she was put to death.

    It is clear from the above hadith that most of the people thought that he was a ruler, and not a prophet, and if he were a true prophet, allah would have informed him or his close friend Gabriel who used to help him in his raids would have stopped him from eating it, but it never happened.

  322. Evergreen says:

    They not only think male is superior but also asserted that their prophet and God are the only true ones and demanded their right of way. This causes conflicts with many other non-believers. They cannot win in many non-muslim's countries as the infidels have far more superior weapons and intelligence. Of course, all these fighting and killings created "tons" of sins that needed to be purified by way of God's Law of cause and effect. Only God knows whose who got killed are actually paying for their sins ( maybe accumulated in previous lifetimes, if not in the present lifetime ).
    YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW. THAT IS THE JUSTICE OF THE LOVING GOD .

  323. Evergreen says:

    "Take your god and shove him."
    Go to you tube by Pat Condell·

  324. NoBody says:

    God encompasses all. God is Cause to all effect. God is the still fulcrum where all power lies. The seesaw on one end is man and on the other end is woman. These are the effects of cause and they must balance in rhythmic balanced interchange to produce health and happiness. This is Love. When this is out of sync, then illness occurs or imbalance occurs. Muslims are the architects of imbalance and they perpetuate it. That is why there is so much poverty and strife in the muslim world. They think the male is superior to the female when. in fact, the two must balance rhythmically. Materialism is an illusion and the only thing real is what cannot be seen. If it can be seen, it is not real. What is real can only be known, NOT seen. What we are seeing is the dying desperation of the muslim thought patterns. All they bring is destruction. Muslims are slaves.

  325. Sol Landet says:

    In true I read that in Islamia, to be precise in Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia – and guess? – Saudi Arabia, people start to be fed up with islam. Although they still refer to themselves as muslims, they dare to criticize islam, sometimes even openly.

    Also, I talk about a muslim blog I read few days ago. Muslims claimed to be sad because in Russia and in Islamia, Islam is collapsing.
    Also read this http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/30/ideology-islam-c
    Here's why we fight islam.

    Then, we are tired about islam because muslims in Europe refuse to integrate, don't respect our rules and try to impose their point of view on non muslim-majority. We don't want you force us to eat halal, if you want halal keep it for yourself. If you don't want to eat pork, read ingredients on food you're going to buy.

    People have free will. What the point of hell and heaven if we haven't even the freedom to be ourselves? to choise what we want to do in our life?

  326. shabeer says:

    There are strict and detailed laws in Islam, which Muslims must follow carefully. A military Jihad must be performed under these regulations. Abdullah Yusuf Ali writes about verse 2:190:
    War is only permissible in self-defence, and under well-defined limits. When undertaken, it must be pushed with vigour, but not relentlessly, but only to restore peace and freedom for the worship of God. In any case strict limits must not be transgressed: women, children, old and infirm men should not be molested, nor trees and crops cut down, nor peace withheld when the enemy comes to terms. (Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur’an, Text, Translation and Commentary )

    He then re-iterates the general principles behind Jihad in his commentary on verse 2:191:

    In general, it may be said that Islam is the religion of peace, goodwill, mutual understanding, and good faith. But it will not acquiesce in wrong-doing, and its men will hold their lives cheap in defence of honour, justice, and the religion which they hold sacred. Their ideal is that of heroic virtue combined with unselfish gentleness and tenderness, such as is exemplified in the life of the Apostle. They believe in courage, obedience, discipline, duty, and a constant striving by all the means in their power, physical, moral, intellectual, and spiritual, for the establishment of truth and righteousness. (Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur’an, Text, Translation and Commentary )

    This is the true focus behind Jihad, and Muslims must never lose this focus. Jihad is solely for the purpose of aiding humanity and bringing justice and freedom to the oppressed. Therefore, all actions must be in-line with this focus and the strict regulations governing Jihad. The focus is to defend, not destroy. One who focuses on the betterment and aid of humanity will realize that destruction will never achieve this. Abdul Majid Daryabadi writes extensively on verse 2:190:

    2:190 “And fight in the way of Allah those who fight you” ? Violating the truce they themselves had signed. The Muslims, after having borne untold persecution with almost superhuman fortitude for years and years at the hands of the pagans of Makkah, are now for the first time enjoined to take to reprisals. ‘For a full thirteen years the Muslims were subjected to relentless persecution in Mecca. The Prophet and his followers fled for life to Medina, but the enemy would not leave them alone in their refuge. They came to attack them within a year, and the first three battles were fought in the very locality which will whether the Prophet was an assailant or defendant’ (Headley, The Original Church of Jesus Christ and Islam, p. 155). The Makkans had signed a truce and were the first to break it. The words ‘fight with those who fight you’ clearly show, firstly, that the Muslims were not the aggressors, and secondly, that those of the enemy who were not actual combatants ? children, women, monks, hermits, the aged and the infirm, the maimed, and the like ? had nothing at all to fear from the Muslim soldiery. It was in light of this express Divine injunction that the great Abu Bakr, the first Caliph, charged his troops into Syria, ‘not to mutilate the dead, nor to slay old men, women, and children, nor to cut down fruit-trees, nor to kill cattle unless they were needed for food; and these humane precepts served like a code of laws of war during the career of Mohammadan conquest.’ (Bosworth Smith, Mohammed and Mohammedanism, p. 185). Has not Islam thus, in prescribing war against those who break God’s law, who challenge His righteous authority, and who fill the world with violence and injustice, made every concession short of the impossible? Has any code of military ethics been so chivalrous, so humane and so tender towards the enemy? ‘The moral tone adopted by the Caliph Abu Bakr, in his instructions to the Syrian army, was’, says a modern Christian historian, ‘so unlike the principles of the Roman government, that it must have commanded profound attention from a subject people. Such a proclamation announced to Jews and Christians’ sentiments of justice and principles of toleration which neither Roman emperors nor orthodox bishops had ever adopted as the rule of their conduct’ (Finlay, Greece Under the Romans, pp. 367-368). (Daryabadi, The Glorious Qur’an, emphasis added)

  327. shabeer says:

    #Bukhari 1:2:24…………………….
    2:190-194 Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear (the punishment of) God, and know that God is with those who restrain themselves.

    How many times do we see the above verse repeating the message to make it clear? These verse were revealed at a time when Muslims of Madinah were under constant attack from the Makkans. An example would be when the Makkans conducted the public crucifixion of the companion of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), Khubaib bin Adi. These would be classified as ‘terrorist activities’ according to the modern usage of the term. So what does this verse say in this context? “Fight in the cause of God those who fight you”, “unless they (first) fight you there” – the context of this verse applies to those who initiate the attack against Muslims. And even after they attack, the verse makes it clear: “But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” And it also makes clear the purpose for what Muslims fight: “fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God”. It is the duty of Muslims to defend humanity from oppression and persecution and to establish justice. Muslims believe that God has placed us here on earth as his deputy or viceroy, and thus, it is our duty to enjoin the good and forbid the evil, to establish peace and justice in the land. Dr. Maher Hathout writes the following on verses 2:190-194:

    These verses were applicable to a particular situation or if, hypothetically, the same situation was to be repeated? Historically, fighting back against the aggressors was prohibited during the thirteen years of the Meccan period. After the migration to Medina and the establishment of the Islamic state, Muslims were concerned with how to defend themselves against aggression from their enemies. The aforementioned verses were revealed to enable them to protect the newly formed state by fighting in self-defence against those who fought them. However, the Qur’an clearly prohibits aggression. The verses explain that fighting is only for self-defence. Thus, a Muslim cannot commit aggression and kill innocent men, women, children, the sick, the elderly, monks, priests, or those who do not wish to fight. A Muslim is also mandated not to destroy plant life of livestock. (Hathout, Jihad vs. Terrorism; US Multimedia Vera International, 2002, p.49, emphasis added)
    The historical context is something that must always be considered where developing an understanding of Qur’anic verses. Without knowing the circumstances behind the revelation, one cannot apply the verse as accurately. Shaykh Salman Al-Oadah writes about the general principles in Jihad:

    Jihad can never be fought for worldly gain, for conquest, or even for revenge. Muslims must only fight to protect the lives, property, and freedoms of people, especially their freedom to worship Allah when that freedom is forcibly attacked. They are never allowed to attack innocent people, even when they are themselves attacked by the countrymen of those innocents. Any people that go against this established principle of Islamic Law and murder civilians are fighting against Islam and everything that it stands for. It is ludicrous for them to call this fighting a jih?d, a word that means striving in the cause of Islam. They are in fact murderers in the light of Islamic Law and should be treated as such. (SOURCE, emphasis added)

  328. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shabby,
    Your useless prophet said he knew what will take place in hellfire but he did not know that he was going to be poisoned so soon. Your allah is pretty funny to 'reveal' the remotest future without revealing the immediate.

  329. shabeer says:

    be@t:
    Dawud :: Book 11 : Hadith 2137
    Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri:

    Mu'awiyah asked: Apostle of Allah, what is the right of the wife of one of us over him? He replied: That you should give her food when you eat, clothe her when you clothe yourself, >>>>>>>>do not strike her on the face<<<<<<<<<, do not revile her or separate yourself from her except in the house.
    Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah: "I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your tilth when or how you will, give her (your wife) food when you take food, clothe when you clothe yourself, do not revile her face, and do not beat her. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2138)"

    Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying: "He who believes in Allah and the Hereafter, if he witnesses any matter he should talk in good terms about it or keep quiet. Act kindly towards woman, for woman is created from a rib, and the most crooked part of the rib is its top. If you attempt to straighten it, you will break it, and if you leave it, its crookedness will remain there. So act kindly towards women. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Book 008, Number 3468)"

    "O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (The Noble Quran, 4:19)"

    "And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran 30:21)"

    "Women impure for men impure. And women of purity for men of purity. These are not affected by what people say. For them is forgiveness and an honorable provision. (The Noble Quran 24:26)"

    kill the infidels
    “God forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you
    not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing
    kindly and justly with them: for God loveth those who are just.”
    (H.Q. 60:8)
    “God only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you
    for (your) faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support
    (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship
    and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumst
    ances), that do wrong.” (H.Q. 60:9)
    suicide:
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 77 :: Hadith 603

    Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Allah has made your statement true. So-and-so has committed suicide." Allah's Apostle said, "O Bilal! Get up and announce in public: None will enter Paradise but a believer, and Allah may support this religion (Islam) with a wicked man."
    I have thought long and hard over their religious justifications. They make absolutely no sense. First of all, murder is strictly forbidden in Islam: “And do not take a life that God has made sacred, except for just cause.” (17:33) By no stretch of the imagination is killing innocent people a “just cause.” Second, suicide is equally forbidden by the Qur’an: “And spend for the sake of God, and do not invest in ruin by your own hands. And do good, for God loves those who do good.” (2:195) The Qur’an also says, “And do not kill yourselves, for God has been merciful to you.” (4:29)

    Bukhari :: Book 2 :: Volume 23 :: Hadith 445
    Narrated Thabit bin Ad-Dahhak:

    The Prophet (p.b.u.h) said, "Whoever intentionally swears falsely by a religion other than Islam, then he is what he has said, (e.g. if he says, 'If such thing is not true then I am a Jew,' he is really a Jew). And whoever commits suicide with piece of iron will be punished with the same piece of iron in the Hell Fire." Narrated Jundab the Prophet said, "A man was inflicted with wounds and he committed suicide, and so Allah said: My slave has caused death on himself hurriedly, so I forbid Paradise for him."
    Bukhari :: Book 2 :: Volume 23 :: Hadith 446
    Narrated Abu Huraira-:

    The Prophet said, "He who commits suicide by throttling shall keep on throttling himself in the Hell Fire (forever) and he who commits suicide by stabbing himself shall keep on stabbing himself in the Hell-Fire."

  330. shabeer says:

    # kill us infidel or force us to conversion…………………………..

    “God forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you
    not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing
    kindly and justly with them: for God loveth those who are just.”
    (H.Q. 60:8)
    “God only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you
    for (your) faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support
    (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship
    and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumst
    ances), that do wrong.” (H.Q. 60:9)
    “If it had been thy Lord’s
    will, they would all have believed, – all who are on earth! Will
    thou then compel mankind, against their will to believe!” (H.Q.
    10:99)
    The Qur'an makes it very clear that the duty entrusted to the
    messengers, who were appointed for the conveyance of the message
    of the true religion, was restricted to the propagation of the religion
    alone; it never included the coercion of others into the faith : “But
    what is the mission of apostles but to preach the clear message
    ?” (H.Q. 16:35)
    “If then they turn away, We have not sent thee as a guard
    over them. Thy duty is but to convey (the message).” (H.Q.42:48)
    The Qur'an repeatedly tells the Prophet that he is only to invite
    people to the true religion; never to compel them to change their faiths.
    “Say: ‘The truth is from your Lord.’ Let him who will, believe,
    and let him who will, reject (it).” (H.Q. 18:29)
    “Therefore do thou give admonition, for thou art one to
    admonish. Thou art not one to manage (men’s) affairs.” (H.Q.
    88:21,22)
    “Let there be no
    compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error.” (H.Q.
    2:256)

    NO KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE ,NO FORCED CONVERSION ,ALLHA DECIDED THE HIDAYA OF PEOPLE ,IF HE LIKE ALI SINNA BECOME A MUSLIM IT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE HIS DEAD ……………NO ONE FORCED HERE TO CONVERSION OF MUSLIM CONVERSION,PLP RIGHT TO CHOOSE THEIR RELIGION
    ISLAM THE WORLD FASTEST GOING /CONVERTED RELIGION ON EARTH ,EVEN GUINNESS RECORD BROKEN RELIGION CONVERSION,HERE THE EVIDENCE ,ACCORDING TO THE LATEST REPORT PER /HR 54-57 PEOPLE CONVERTING AROUND THE WORLD ,

    LISTEN CHRISTIAN,JEW,HINDU,BUDH,SICK,ATHEIST,SHIA,PAGAN,HUMANIST ,X,Y,Z,ETC……………….ALL OF THEM TRY TO DEFEND ISLAM,THROUGHT THEIR MEDIA & VIDEO,SITE,ETC…………………..ISLAM ALONE HERE FIGHTING AGAINST ALL OF THEM WITH COURAGIOUS /WITH RIGHT EVIDENNCE / VEST ALONE THE SUPRIME CREATOR ………………..BILLIONS OF DOLLERS SPEND THE ZOMBIEES FORSPREADING THE THEIR EVILNESS TO PEOPLE AGAINST THE ISLAM ,OUR ALMIGHTY DECIDED OTHER ………….WHAT MOREEVIDENCE REQUIRED FOR THE DIVINITY OF AN IDEAL RELIGION ON EARTH…………………. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinness_Book_of_Worhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Brhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claims_to_be_the_fashttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_population

  331. shabeer says:

    THAT GOOD BUDDY ……………….
    Man who realizes where he stands in this wide expanse of the
    universe will definitely prostrate in front of its creator. A universe
    filled with millions of clustres, each clustre consisting of
    millions of galaxies and each galaxy studded with millions of trillions
    of stars, pulsars, quasars, nebulae and black holes! And our
    sun just a tiny star in the Milkyway stretching across the sky, one
    among millions of falaxies. This Sun is 1.35 millions times bigger
    than earth in volume. The milky way contains stars which are
    thousands and thousands times bigger than our sun which is just a
    medium sized star in the Milky way. Nine planets revolve around
    the sun. Besides there are a lot many satellites, comets, dwarf
    planets, meteorites, etc… in the solar system. Earth is one among
    the 9 planets. And Man is just one among millions of species or
    earth. Each one of us is just on among crores and crores of such
    men. But the protection offered to this `tiny’ and `unimportant’
    human being, other species, the earth, the planets, milkyway, galaxies,
    etc. are the same. That means the same `commander’ protects
    and controls them all. We realize how inferior our powers
    are and that we are just nothing in this universe. The ultimate
    realization forces us to lower our heads down in front of the Al
    mighty Creator. The Qur’an precisely points out to this truth:
    “Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the Earth
    In the alternation of the Night and the Day
    In the sailing of ships through the ocean
    for the benefit of mankind
    In the rain which Allah sends down from the skies
    And the life which He gives therewith
    To an Earth that is dead;
    In the beasts of all kinds that He scatters
    Through out the Earth:
    In the change of the winds,
    And the clouds which trail like their slaves
    Between the sky and the Earth
    (Here) indeed are Signs
    For a people that are wise’’ (Al Baqarah: 164)
    The Qur’an invokes human intelligence in Al -A’raf:
    Do they see nothing, the government of the heavens
    And the Earth and all, that Allah has created?
    (Do they not see) that, it may well be that
    Their term is nigh drawing to an end?
    In what message after this,
    Will they then believe?’’ (Al A’raf: 185)

    Matter is the building material of this Universe. Multiplicity
    is a basic nature of matter. The search for a fundamental substance
    has led scientists to the conclusion that nothing exists which
    can be called a single or fundamental substance. Elements join in
    different proportions to form various substances. Atoms from
    molecules. Atom consists of electrons, protons, neutrons, mesons
    and positrons. They were thought to be the fundamental particles.
    Later it was discovered that they were made up of quarks which
    don’t have independant existence. Thus there is nothing in this
    materialistic world which can be called a fundamental substance
    or a particle. This is attributed to multiplicit is the fundamental
    character of matter, by scientists. It is Allah the Creator of matter
    and the universe who can be described as single in all respects.
    Since He is beyond the definition of matter it is unlike His nature
    and essence that He exhibits multiplicity. That means He is the
    one. The Qur’an stresses this fact unequivocally in Al-Ikhlas the
    pivotal chapter of Quran:
    “Say He is Allah, the one and only
    Allah, the Eternal Absolute,
    He begetteth not, Nor is He begotten,
    And there is none like unto Him’’ (Al-Ikhlas: 1-4)
    Man has a lot of limitations, basically he acquires knowledge
    through senses. The human brain processes informations collected
    through the five senses. It is a well known fact that human sense
    have a lot of limitations.

    Human eye can see light only within a range of wave lengths
    from 380 to 780 millimicrons. The ultraviolet rays, X-rays, infrared
    rays and cosmic rays which are emitted at wavelengths above
    or below this range are not visible for human eyes. Human ear
    can listen to sound waves within a frequency range of 20 Hz. to
    20,000 Hz. Sound waves beyond these limits are not audible to
    human ear. So also is the case with taste, smell etc. So it turns out
    that, since human senses have limitations the brain also must have
    limitations. That means we can think only about this materialistic
    world. Human brain is incapable of thinking beyond the materialistic
    world and creating images and performing calculations outside
    its limits.
    It was already pointed out that Allah is beyond matter and
    hence limitations of materials are not applicable in His case. Human
    brain is incapable of arriving at conclusions and deductions
    on his own about God. Because it is all beyond limits of his senses.
    Human brain which is with in space-time limits can not visualize
    the Supreme being beyond space-time limits. The Qur’an verse
    given below indicates this:-
    “No vision can grasp Him
    But His grasp is over all vision
    He is above all comprehension
    Yet is acquainted with all things’’ (Al-Ana’s: 103)

  332. shabeer says:

    HE CAN'T MANAGE EVEN A LITTLE MADRASA BOY FROM CANADA ,WHAT THE REQUIREMENT OF COME TO INDIA …………………….

  333. shabeer says:

    #negative experiences……………………….

    PLZ PROVE WITH EVIDENCE ,WHAT THE THINGS PROMOTING PEOPLE WILL LEADS TO NEGATIVE EXP:

  334. shabeer says:

    POINT WISE REPLAY FOR ALI SINNA……………………

    replay : Islam-is-an-impediment-to-human-evolution/ http://sinnerreplay.blogspot.in/

    PLZ CLICK IT READ IT……………..

  335. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @All
    Hinduism – Principles over Persons
    A Christian cannot be Christian unless he believes in Jesus Christ. A Muslim cannot be Muslim if he refuses to believe Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as last prophet. Regardless of whatever good that may be in texts of these religions, one must first believe in these pre-conditions – the special status of these people – to be eligible for anything else in these texts.
    For example, if I believe in all the noble verses in Quran (which I firmly believe in), but reject those verses that call Muhammad Sahib as last prophet (because the concept of avatars or prophets does not appeal to my rational mind), I will not be considered a Muslim. In fact if I call myself Muslim because I like a large number of verses in Quran, but reject the concept of Prophethood, I may be put to death in certain countries on charges of blasphemy.
    Christians have become much more liberal but nonetheless the word ‘Christian’ itself states that belief in Christ is a must.
    Now this may be a very good thing to inculcate discipline in certain situations. I am not arguing their merits or demerits.
    But to my democratic and liberal mind, Hinduism appeals so much more for respecting and even celebrating my individuality. It makes me feel so much special and values my uniqueness. It has no concept of blasphemy. It is not threatened by views, deeds, speeches or writings of a few individuals. On contrary, it embraces even them into its fold, if they are driven by honesty.
    Hinduism, due to its emphasis on honesty, does not offer any mandatory persons as pre-conditions. Yes, a large number of people may worship Krishna, Ram, Durga, Kali, Shiva, Hanuman and many other Gods and Goddesses. Some worship a particular God or Goddess exclusively, some worship everyone. There are innumerable Gods and Goddesses and many are of even recent origin. For example Santoshi Mata, Gayatri Mata or Sai Baba. For many it has become even a fraud business to resurrect a new God or Goddess and mint money on religious feelings of masses. Yes that is an issue of concern and pointed by many as weakness of Hinduism.
    But that is not the complete picture. In reality, Hinduism offers freedom of choice without being dictatorial or judgmental. What critics of Hinduism forget to emphasize is that Hinduism is the ONLY way of life that ALSO offers worship of principles ALONE. In fact even the so-called idol worshippers agree that while idol-worship may be first step, the ultimate goal is to reach a state of worship of principles ALONE.
    Thus huge number of Hindus believe in formless God. Many are even atheists. Many believe only in core tenets – Patience, Forgiveness, Self-control, Non-Stealing, Purity, Control of Sense, Wisdom, Knowledge Enhancement, Honesty, Non-Violence.
    So you can be a Hindu even if you don’t believe in any particular person or avatar or even concept of God. You simply have to be honest to yourself, and need not even take certificate of honesty from anyone.
    And that is exactly why so many reform movements took place within Hinduism. Many schools fiercely debated and at times even abused other schools of thought. But that did not make them less Hindu. All of them naturally assimilated within Hinduism.
    Sometimes freedom also tends to nurture social evils due to lack of enlightenment of masses. This is true for any society and any sphere of life. People misuse freedom to break signals and behave like rowdies. That does not mean Freedom is bad. It means there is need to emphasize the importance of responsibility that comes with freedom. It means we need to find ways to make freedom even more meaningful.
    Hinduism offers a way to combat these through wisdom and intellect. That is why Hinduism is not static. It is ever-flowing and ever-dynamic. It makes me love and enjoy being Hindu so much more!

  336. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @Agracean
    1. God does pardon your sins. His pardon lies in the just results of your actions that He provides and not in deleting your past records.
    2. If He/She were to delete your past records, He would be doing greatest injustice and brutality to you. Because in this case, He has allowed you to be promoted to next class even when you have not gained the competence to pass the present class. And in process he is doing injustice to others also who interact with you.
    3. Pardoning means providing opportunity to improve your competence and not giving you 100% when you deserved a zero. This is exactly what God does. And remember that improving competence does not happen in one moment or through one word of ‘Sorry’. It demands dedicated practice and efforts over a period of time. Only lazy people seek shortcuts like trying to get 100% without even studying the course.
    4. Unfortunately, those who attract people to their religion by saying that God will forgive their sins are fooling themselves and people. Suppose someone has diabetes. Does it get treated merely by saying sorry? When a physical disease takes much more than a sorry to be treated, how can mind – the most complex thing known to humanity – be treated by a sorry?
    5. Actually these ideologies have a blatant flaw – they believe in one life and do not believe in rebirth. So they want to create artificial hurry formula to attract people. And scare them to Hell of they do not agree to them.
    6. Vedic philosophy is much more natural, amenable to logic and reasonable. Neither is there a Hell where you would be thrown to burn forever by God who is as loving as Mother, nor would He debar you from opportunities to actually raise your competence through efforts and achieve what you truly deserve. After all what is more satisfying:
    a. Rank 1 through a fake mark sheet when we know that actually we had got zero, or
    b. A proud Rank 1 through hard work and burning midnight oil, when we know that we did the best we could to become masters of the subject!
    So in vedas, there are no shortcuts or longcuts to success. There is only the right cut! And the success is much more satisfying than what any illusionary and illusive shortcut can be imagined to provide!

  337. Phoenix says:

    Islam can only give its followers negative experiences.Muslims are always fearful,angry,guilt-ridden,paranoid or they suffer from a superior complex which they confuse with happiness.This is the bulk of muslim experiences.

    To balance ones vibrational energies one has to make "feeling good" a top priority,until it becomes a habit.
    Muhammad's inspirational messages for muslims are dark,hellish and depressed which reflects his own inner state.Thus he deserves to be called the prophet of doom.

  338. Sanatani says:

    Dearl Ali Sina please come in India there are many such fanatics. Wish you all the best. We are with you against fanatics and fundamentalist!

  339. NoBody says:

    Dear Mr. Sina, Reality or Matter is an illusion. The only thing REAL is God which is MIND or as you put it consciousness. We humans are sons and daughters of MIND and can work with God in our lives. You so completely destroy any and all muslim point of view, because you aptly state that God or Mind or Consciousness is Love. When we Give, we Love, When we Take, we don't. This Earth is a place where God the Great Playwright is Directing the Thought of Man on it. When Man comes to complete God Consciousness on Earth the Play will be finished and the Earth will roll off and Venus will roll into place for the Man Idea to express again. Therefore, Love will become more prevalent on Earth and anything not Love oriented to ALL peoples,plants, animals, etc. will be no longer be apart of this. So, yes, you are right, Islam is dead and will die out. It will only be seen what agony it will create on its way out. Gods Speed.

    One final point I would like to make is that "evolution" is really only an illusion of humans because everything happens in sequence and we humans only see the forward movement when in fact there is an equal and opposite backward movement. If we humans were aware of both aspects of reality, there would be no reason for the Play. Because we would see thorough the illusion of it all. It's like if we were standing on railroads tracks looking down the tracks, our illusory perceptions tell us that the tracks meet at some point, but we KNOW that they do not. This is the illusion of reality. But what is really happening around us is a "transformation" of matter NOT evolution. Thanks

  340. chuck says:

    @Shabeer,
    //HOW MANY WORLD WAR CONDUCTED BY MUSLIM? // http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_conquests
    How many civilizations destroyed by the Islamists? The Indian civilization was destroyed beyond its identity and it fell into darkness for 1000 years. The Byzantines were obliterated from the face of earth in a series of offences culminating with the Ottoman wars. The Ottomans themselves sided with the Axis powers in WW 1 and we all know WW1 was CAUSED by the Axis Powers. If you want I can list down some of the major wars committed in the name of Islam. One single Ghazi, Timur Lane, accounted for wiping out 5% of the world population at his times (17 million). You simply want to avoid seeing history.

  341. Sol Landet says:

    there are things that are strange about islamia.
    – Usually empires that conquered and enlarged their empire, where stable and united. Islamia is unstable and divided. How they can still win?
    – Usually the kings of those empires where supported by most people, while in islamia people don't support their government (see Egypt) and hate Saudi Arabia(main reference of islam). How they can still win?)
    – In those days, I read a Muslim blog, to see what they think about conquest. They like their idea to conquer, and they do it for an ideological reason, so they don't care to see the fruit of their job, but they care a lot about numbers. I noticed they don't seem as confident as when they do violence in the street or they kill a large amount of people. How they can still win?
    – Some muslims (like Erdoğan) have too big project ( Erdoğan wants to rebuild Ottoman empire). We see he is going to lose. But will Turks fall to islamism? Or they will chose secularism?
    – Some muslims claimed openly to be fed up with islam in their own country, at the cost to risk their life. They criticized islam, the problem is that they haven't yet the courage to leave it, but they are more and more, as more are apostates of islam. How islam can still win?

    I can't find an analogue episode in history. The most similar episode is Hitler's Nazism, but Hitler lost when he almost won.
    The bad felling I have, is that Islam will not die, but it will move from Islamia (where I fell it will fall soon in some countries) to west Europe. While their birth rate is getting low, Muslims can still kill us infidel or force us to conversion. I can't talk about America because there, Muslims percentage is incredibly low (1%), despite they are ruling, because Obama himself is muslim.
    We are fed up with islam, but muslims are good in taqiyya, and now they discover a new trick that seems effective (they deny their faith, do what infidel do, eat pork, but in the right moment they will let their mask fall. History show this way is dangerous even for them because hystory show that practicing this kind of taqiyya ends in a real conversion to the new faith).

    I heard some backlash in last times. Other minorities (gay, foreigners, sikh, jews), atheists and some leftists are turning against islam, and, while media try to censor every criticism against islam, maybe there will be a Sreisand effect (media try to censor critiques against muslims, but they talk about 'how good people muslims are', so people urge try to imform theirselves and to inform other)

    But I don't know how this will end…

  342. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shabby,
    It seems you are ignorant of history or you are trying to cover up the culpability of muhammadan countries in some of the most deadly wars to have been foisted on mankind.
    During WW1, Ottoman Turkey was in partnership with Kaiser Germany. Following their defeat in that war, Ottoman Turkey lost its empire and many territories in the Middle East became independent.
    World War11 saw the muhammadan world supporting Nazi Germany. Amin El-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem, went to the Balkans and raised the most vicious of the dreaded SS formations, the Mountain Brigades or Ansar Brigades, which saw action in France and the Balkans. They were responsible for the atrocities in the concentration camps in the Balkans. They killed tens of thousands of Jews, Christians and Gypsies and destroyed their Synagogues and Churches.
    Muhammadans find it convenient to always refer to the crusades. But they equally conveniently ignore the fact that the crusades were launched 462 years into continuous and relentless muhammadan rape, pillage and genocide. The objective of the crusades was very limited in scope. It was to retake the holy sites in the holy land. There was no order to eliminate muhammadanism by driving it out of Arabia, a move which I consider to have been a grave mistake on the part of the crusaders.
    The gas chambers and crematoria were invented by the muhammadan Turks to erase every trace of the pogrom committed on the Armenians, Greeks, Assyrian and other Christian groups. The Germans were only students of their Turkish partners.The muhammadans cannot be extricated from whatever the Germans are guilty of.
    Before the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japanese had used chemical weapons on the Chinese killing about 300,000 people during the Sino-Japanses war of the 1930s. But Saddam Hussein killed his countrymen by dropping both chemical and biological agents on the Kurds.
    In East Timor, biological agents were used on the helpless Timorese by muhammadan Indonesia. After 25 years of Indonesian occupation, 250,000 East Timorese had been massacred. This represented 33% of the entire population. 80,000 of those killed were in the first two years of the genocidal occupation, according to Adam Malik, the then Foreign Minister of Indonesia. The Indonesian authorities were very proud of their accomplishments not minding that, on a per capita basis, this was the worst genocide in history. To put it in perspective, that per centage is equivalent to killing about 300 million Indians or 400 million Chinese. The Indians, Africans and Europeans suffered untold inhumanity from the muhammadans. According to historians, what the muhammadans did in India alone was worse than what took place in colonial Africa, the Americas and the Pacific islands combined.
    Wikipedia estimates that at the time of colonization, the aboriginal population of Australia stood at around 350,000. But muhammadans have put the number said to have been massacred by the colonialists as high as 10 million. How that number can be subtracted from the original figure can best be explained only in muhammadan mathematics.
    There is no evil yet that comes close to muhammadanism which commits atrocities in the name of religion.

  343. Ex-Muslim Hindustan says:

    Ali Sina….what should we do when you are not here anymore?

    Islam has killed more than 50 million of my people in India Hindustan and it's about time to take it down.

    They act like animals, so they should be treated like animals…I've been there…

    What to do when you're gone?

  344. Shakila says:

    I don't know about the rest but I am one of them. I left Islam thanks to Ali Sina and I am so proud of myself. This has been the best decision of my life and I have never been happier. Islam was the source of all my problems, my depression and anxiety. Since I left it, I have been a totally new person, Happy and positive. You really are my mentor.. Thank you Ali.

  345. Agracean says:

    Hi Mr Sanatan Dharam, the truth is that none of the sages or enlightened people whom you have listed above, has gone to the extent of dying on the cross to pay the perfect penalty for your sins, except Jesus Christ, Son of the living God.

  346. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shabby,
    If allah knows the people's future and their past and can help spiritually and physically, why did he not know that Muhammad would end up as such a miserable wretch? Why did allah not help him physically by healing him from the effect of Zayanab's poison? Allah knows neither the past nor the future. Allah knows nothing at all that is why it requires people to do its thinking.

  347. Seeker says:

    @Shabeer
    What went wrong to Muhammad that he faces all the allegations like rapist, pedophile, mass-murderer, narcissist etc. while no other historical legend like Jesus, Moses, Krishna, Buddha were targeted by the people with such allegations.

  348. Sakat says:

    continued…
    About the middle of the sixth century BC, Siddartha Gautama, the historic Buddha, began to teach a different sort of discipline in India. Unlike the mythological and ritualistic Hinduism, Buddhism was definitely psychological. It was concerned with the human condition and human frustrations. After the Buddha's death, the Mahayana school of Buddhism spread across Asia to Tibet, China and Japan, as well as being absorbed into the Hindu practice in India. Mahayana Buddhism views phenomenal existence as a dream state from which one must awaken, as the Buddha did, to see the impermanence of 'things' and the futility of holding on to them. Through right thought and actions, one will reach the state of nirvana, where "false notions of a separate self have forever disappeared and the oneness of all life has become a constant sensation" (Capra 96). Buddha is not worshipped as a Diety, nor is the physical world thought to be a manifestation of the Divine. Rather, the whole of the universe is perceived to be an inseparable 'void' or 'suchness', including the individual. This is a clear example of materialistic, monistic, world-denying pantheism.

    About the same time as the Buddha began his teaching in India, both Confucianism and Taoism were developing in China. While Confucianism concerned itself primarily with social etiquette and ethics, Taoism focused on the observation of nature and the discovery of its Way, or Tao. Taoism did not require extensive social or ethical rules, because "human happiness, according to the Taoists, is achieved when one follows the natural order, acting spontaneously and trusting one's intuitive knowledge" (Capra 102). Lao Tzu, the originator of Taoism, taught that there is an ultimate reality which underlies and unifies the multiple things and events that we observe. This is called the Tao, or the Way, and "is the cosmic process in which all things are involved; the world is seen as a continuous flow and change" (104). This discipline is truly the essence of materialistic pantheism, as it transcends the concepts of duality and evolution. The observable universe is just a momentary manifestation that encompasses all possibilities and is in constant flow, each aspect containing its opposite and its complement.

    Although these Eastern spiritual traditions differ in details and the particular flavor of pantheism, their world view is essentially the same. Its most important characteristic "is the awareness of the unity and mutual interrelation of all things and events, the experience of all phenomena in the world as manifestations of a basic oneness" (Capra 130). This ultimate, indivisible reality which manifests itself in all things and of which all things are parts is also observed in the Western religious traditions. Again, the particular terminology and variety of pantheism may differ, but the concept of an underlying, unifying presence is a basic tenet of Judeo-Christian faith.

    Judeo-Christian theology is not so much pantheistic as panentheistic – it believes that God is present in the world as well as extending beyond it. Especially in later Judaism, God was thought to be present everywhere in the world. The form of this presence is often called Shechinah, "dwelling," and is depicted as light or glory. The Talmud and the Old Testament are liberally sprinkled with references to God's omnipresence. The book of Jeremiah asks, "Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? says the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? says the Lord."[ 23:24]. Christianity has fewer direct references to pantheism, but does imply that the Holy Spirit is within all things.

    Many other spiritual practices include some variety of pantheism or panentheism. Ibn al-'Arabi, one of the most uncompromising panentheistic Sufi disciples, believed that God had a transcendental as well as an immanent aspect. He was manifested in–but also extended beyond-the material universe. Both Sufism and Islamic theology strongly reiterate the presence of God in all things throughout their holy texts. Earth-based spiritual practices, such as Native American, Aboriginal and Wiccan, share many of the same concepts and celebrate the unifying spirit within the entire universe. One needs only to casually observe most religions to find the precepts of unity and integrality boldly displayed within the basic tenets.

  349. Sakat says:

    Two of the religious precepts that embrace universal consciousness are pantheism and panentheism. Pantheism is the belief that the universe and nature are divine. It equates God with the forces and laws of the universe. Most of the Eastern disciplines have one of the many forms of pantheism at their core. Panentheism is related to pantheism, but takes the process one step further. Panentheists believe that God is present in the sensible universe, but also extends beyond it. This is a common belief in many of the Western religions, including Judaism and Christianity. Both classic pantheism and panentheism have been practiced, voiced and celebrated within the religions and philosophies of society from its earliest foundations.

    Pantheism has flowered in every era, like a perennial rooted in the common ground of all transcendental or idealist religions. Every religion has had its pantheists and people in every religion have seen God in nature. Pantheism has many varieties and divisions, each expressed in the practices or writings of a particular group. Some are world-affirming, believing that the material world is identical with God, therefore good. Some are world-denying, believing that the phenomenal world is a mere illusion. There are further subdivisions of monism and dualism, as well as other distinguishing characteristics of various pantheistic practices. Rather than dwell on the differences between these varieties, it is important to capture the essence of their underlying theme of unity.

    Eastern mysticism incorporates many forms of pantheism within its diverse practices. These traditions are both philosophical and religious, and many influence the social and cultural life of followers as well. This is especially true of Hinduism. Based upon the Vedas, a collection of four ancient scriptures written between 1500 and 500 BC, Hinduism has been the guiding influence in India for the last twenty-five centuries. The fundamental idea is that the multitude of things and events around us are but different manifestations of the same ultimate reality. Fritjof Capra notes that "This reality, called Brahman, is the unifying concept which gives Hinduism its essentially monistic character in spite of the worship of numerous gods and goddesses " (87). The various aspects of Brahman have been taught through the popular mythical tales or epics and identified with the names of the gods and goddesses that are worshipped by Hindus, but all these gods are just reflections of the same divine reality-the infinite, omnipresent, and incomprehensible Braman. Capra observes that "The basic recurring theme in Hindu mythology is the creation of the world by the self-sacrifice of God-'sacrifice' in the original sense of 'making sacred'-whereby God becomes the world which, in the end, becomes again God" (87).
    continued…..

  350. Sanatan Dharam says:

    @Agracean
    I do not want to deviate discussion by arguing with you on unnecessary stuff. I think from Vedic religon point of view Jesus was the one among greatest sages. Sages are enlightened person like Ali Sina, Buddha, Jusus, Kapila etc.

  351. Evergreen says:

    Yes, Sabeer enjoys right conduct, go and beat your wife, do genital mutilation, do honor killing, wrap your womenfolks in black sacks, amputate the thieves, kill the apostates, kill the infidels and do suicide-bombing on the infidels.
    The superiority of the moon over every other heavenly body———barbarian's logic. What about the sun which GIVES life to all the living things on earth.?
    YOU AND YOUR PHANTOM PARADISE AND YOUR LONG WINDING BS.

  352. sunsetsinmuddywater says:

    You are trying to live in ignorance, did you read the insane and hateful Suras and the Hadiths ?
    Why did Allah let Mohammad die at the hands of a Jew ? Even his wives did not have respect for him, why do you guys believe in a liar ?

  353. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Shabby,
    By your own judgment Muhammad stands condemned because he is guilty of the charges you have made out.
    Bukhari 1:2:24 Muhammad ordered the destruction of every community that does not embrace muhammadanism. For people and their property to be saved, they must acknowledge allah only as god and Muhammad as its prophet.
    During the sack of Bani Nadir he ordered for the cutting down of date palms. If the instruction was given by allah not to do any such thing, then Muhamad placed himself above allah by countering its instructions. He committed 'shirk' because he had placed himself above allah. It was not even a question of associating partners with allah. It was much more serious than that.

    After one of the raids when the muhammadans were 'victorious', they wantonly cut off the humps of camels. There was no rebuke from Muhammad. Does that not make him a hypocrite?
    Stealing from the booty is haram but the booty itself is halal. Who is more guilty, the smaller thief who steals from what has been stolen or the one who originated the stealing? The reason for the order was so that what would go to Muhammad, the super thief, by way of safi and 20% would not be reduced. But he himself had at a time stolen a crimson velvet when the booty had not been shared. When the lesser thieves complained he cranked up a 'revealed verse' as usual.
    Muhammad had encouraged a lie to be told in justification of the death sentence he had in mind to impose on a victim. It was done and he had the victim killed on account of that lie.
    If it is treachery to lie, why do muhammadans practice taqiyya? O! YES, taqiyya is meant for the non muhammadans. That in itself shows the evil nature of muhammadanism where in the same system lying is abhorred if it affects a 'believer' but is right if practiced on a non 'believer'.
    Since, by your own assertion, lying will deprive a man from having a house in or around paradise, it, therefore, means that Muhammad, who lied, and all the muhammadans have disqualified themselves from residing there because they are pathological liars.
    Why was the pledge of allegiance given to Muhammad instead of allah if Muhammad was only its 'messenger'? Was that not a situation where the servant took the glory from the master or made himself the master?

  354. Ali Sina says:

    Dear Abid,

    I read your article and even worked on it to edit it but at the end I decided it does not contain any new information for the readers and decided not to publish it.

    Please don't take that personally. I'd like the readers learn something new when they read an article.

  355. Sanatan Dharam says:

    @All
    As per Islam God created us so that we could worship Him. If that be so,
    a. God becomes nothing more than a praise-loving dictator suffering from superiority-complex.
    b. It proves that God is inconsistent. He changes His habits. That is why since beginninglessness God was all alone, but then He suddenly thought of creating us.
    Let us say, He decided to create us at point T1 in time. Now since time has no beginning and God was always present, hence time T1 or any other time T2, T3 etc are equidistant from origin of time which is infinity away. So if He can change his mood at time T1, there is no reason why He cannot change His mood at other time-points like T2, T3 etc. Also, there is no guarantee that He did not create and destroy us or other species at other times BEFORE time T1 of this creation.
    Now all religions that claim that Allah created us so that we could worship Him also believe that Allah is perfect. Now if Allah is perfect, it means that at ALL points in time, He is equally perfect and operates as per the SAME laws. Perfection implies that there can be NO single-point inconsistency in God’ habits.
    THUS, if God/Allah/Ishwar created us at time T1, He HAS to keep creating us at other time periods also IF He is perfect. Now He cannot create us twice! So if He creates us, He has to also destroy us so as to create us again.
    Now if he continues to create and destroy us, how can He ensure that we worship Him when we have been destroyed. This means that either mood of God fluctuates with time, OR, He has NOT created us for worship.

  356. Sanatan Dharam says:

    @Shabeer
    If Allah does not care to be worshiped or not why will he send the non-worshiper in eternal hellfire? What will be propose to be solved of Allah by giving eternal torture to non-Muslims?How can be result of finite deeds infinite?

  357. shabeer says:

    #As a Muslim you can’t possibly understand God……………………. http://www.islamawareness.net/Science/muslims_conhttp://www.scienceislam.com/muslims_science.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scienhttp://faithforum.wordpress.com/islam-2/knowledge

    #all Muslims still live in the darkness of ignorance and fear…………….

    "You are the best community that has been raised up for mankind. You enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency; and you believe in Allah." (Surah Ale-Imran, 3:110)

    This is emphasized by other verses and holy Hadiths, as for example a Hadith says:

    "If any of you sees an evil done he/she should stop it by his hand, if he/she cannot he/she should protest against it, if cannot then at least he/she should repulse it by heart, and this is the weakest from of faith." (Sahih Muslim, V 1 p 51)
    O ye who believe! Let not a folk deride a folk who may be better than they (are), nor let women (deride) women who may be better than they are; neither defame one another, nor insult one another by (insulting) nicknames. Bad is the name of lewdness after faith. And whoso turneth not in repentance, such are evil doers. O ye who believe! Shun much suspicion; for lo! some suspicion is a crime. And spy not, neither backbite one another. Would one of you love to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Ye abhor that (so abhor the other)! And keep your duty (to Allah). Lo! Allah is Relenting, Merciful." (Surah Al-Hujrat, 49: 12, 13)

    8:46. And obey Allâh and His Messenger, and do not dispute (with one another) lest you lose courage and your strength depart, and be patient. Surely, Allâh is with those who are As-Sâbirin (the patient ones, etc.).
    "Read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists). He has created man from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood). Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous. Who has taught (the writing) by the pen. He has taught man that which he knew not" [Quran, 96: 1-5]

    Education is thus the starting point of every human activity. Allaah created man and provided him with the tools for acquiring knowledge, namely hearing, sight and wisdom. Allaah says (what means): "And Allaah has brought you out from the wombs of your mothers while you know nothing. And He gave you hearing, sight, and hearts that you might give thanks (to Allaah)" [Quran, 16:78]

    A knowledgeable person is accorded great respect in many prophetic narrations.

    Because of the importance of knowledge, Allaah commanded His Messenger to seek more of it. Allaah says (what means): "and say: `My Lord! Increase me in knowledge" [Quran, 20:114]

    The Prophet made seeking knowledge an obligation upon every Muslim, and he explained that the superiority of the one who has knowledge over the one who merely worships is like the superiority of the moon over every other heavenly body. He said that the scholars are the heirs of the Prophets and that the Prophets, may Allaah exalt their mention did not leave behind any money, rather their inheritance was knowledge, so whoever acquires it has gained a great share. Furthermore, the Prophet said that seeking knowledge is a way leading to Paradise. He said: "Whoever follows a path in the pursuit of knowledge, Allaah will make a path to Paradise easy for him." (Al-Bukhaari)

  358. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @Shabeer
    As per Islam this is universe is Allah first & last creation? To believe in this mean Allah was alone and sitting idly?

  359. shabeer says:

    #The more devout ones put bombs in the streets and slit the throats of innocent people…………….

    Malik :: Book 21 : Hadith 21.3.10
    Do not kill women or children or an aged, weak person,Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees.Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty,
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 320
    Not to join anything in worship along with Allah, (2) Not to steal, (3) Not to commit illegal sexual intercourse, (4) Not to kill your children, (5) Not to accuse an innocent person (to spread such an accusation among people), (6) Not to be disobedient (when ordered) to do good deeds.
    People who take weapons for fight prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 88 :: Hadith 190 ,91,92
    Prohibit killing with unjust:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 92 :: Hadith 423
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 37
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 17
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 2,3,6,9
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 840
    Bloodshed completely prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 4,7 ,8

    #They are deceivers and liars……………………

    Dawud :: Book 41 : Hadith 4782
    Narrated AbuUmamah:

    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: I guarantee a house in the surroundings of Paradise for a man who avoids quarrelling even if he were in the right, a house in the middle of Paradise for a man who avoids lying even if he were joking, and a house in the upper part of Paradise for a man who made his character good.

    Dawud :: Book 41 : Hadith 4953
    Narrated Sufyan ibn Asid al-Hadrami:

    I heard the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) say: It is great treachery that you should tell your brother something and have him believe you when you are lying.

    Dawud :: Book 41 : Hadith 4972
    Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Jaydah al-Qushayri:

    The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: Woe to him who tells things, speaking falsely, to make people laugh thereby. Woe to him! Woe to him!.

    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 81 :: Hadith 793
    Narrated Ubada bin As-Samit:

    I gave the pledge of allegiance to the Prophet with a group of people, and he said, "I take your pledge that you will not worship anything besides Allah, will not steal, will not commit infanticide, will not slander others by forging false statements and spreading it, and will not disobey me in anything good. And whoever among you fulfill all these (obligations of the pledge), his reward is with Allah. And whoever commits any of the above crimes and receives his legal punishment in this world, that will be his expiation and purification.

  360. shabeer says:

    #Muslim you start hating all non-Muslims…………………….

    #Why all religious terrorists are Muslims?

    #Why there is so much hate and anger in Muslims?

    #why no other religion teaches murder of unbelievers?

    HOW MANY WORLD WAR CONDUCTED BY MUSLIM? FEUDALISM,COMMUNISM,FRENCH & RUSSIAN REVALUATION,HIROSHIMA,NAGASAKI,GAS CHAMBER,MASSACRE OF MILLION OF SOUTH /NORTH AMERICAN/AUSTRALIAN TRIBE PEOPLE,CRUSADE,30 Y'R WAR,FROM 16TH CENTURY TO MIDDLE OF 19TH CENTENARY 100 OF COUNTRY AROUND THE ASIA,SOUTH AMERICA,AFRICA LIVING LIKE A SLAVE OF EUROPEAN ,THEY TORTURING,KILLING MILLIONS OF INNOCENT CIVILIAN & POOR ,FREEDOM FIGHTERS ,BEFORE THE INDEPENDENCE ,THEY THEFT ALL OF THEIR ASSET ,GOLD ,DI MOUND & STONES,IS IT DID BY ISLAM? VIETNAM,IRAQ,AFGHAN………..

    ACTUALLY WHO THE RELIGION HATE THE OTHERS ?
    jew:
    The ‘goyim’ are not humans. They are beasts.” (Baba Mezia 114b)

    * “If you eat with a ‘goy’ it is the same as eating with a dog.” (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)

    * “Even the best of the ‘goyim’ should all be killed.” (Soferim 15)

    Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

    Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
    "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah."
    Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

    "A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands."
    Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b

    "Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God."
    Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772

    christianity:

    2 Kings 2:23-24

    He [Elisha] went up from there to Bethel; and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, “Go away, baldhead! Go away, baldhead!” When he turned around and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two she-bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. (NRSV)
    4. Deuteronomy 2:32-34

    Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, unto battle at Jahaz. And Jehovah our God delivered him up before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed every inhabited city, with the women and the little ones; we left none remaining. (ASV)

    3. Deuteronomy 3:3-6

    So the LORD our God delivered Og also, king of Bashan, with all his people into our hand, and we smote them until no survivor was left. We captured all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars, besides a great many unwalled towns. We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city. (NASB)

    2. 1 Samuel 15:3,8

    Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " … He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.(NIV)

    1. Hosea 13:16

    Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword, their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open. (NRSV)

    hinduism:

    “O bounteous Lord, of what avail are the cattle of the infidels to you. Neither they yield milk nor do these faithless persons kindle sacred fire. May you bring wealth of these unbelievers to us and give us possessions of people of low mortality and crush them.”

    [Rigveda Samhita, Tr. Satya Prakash Saraswati and Satyakam Vidyalankar; 1977, Vol IV, Page 1235]

    Atharvaveda 8/8/7 which says
    Great is your net, brave Indra, the mighty match for a thousand, Lord of Hundred Powers! Holding them, with his host, therewith has Indra slaughtered Dasyus a hundred, thousand, myriad, hundred millions.

    “O you valiant Maghavan, be exhilarated by this Soma drink, and destroy all our opposing enemies, whether they be our own kith and kin, or not.” [Rigveda 6/44/17]

    Atharvaveda Kaand 12, Sukt 5, Mantra 62.
    "Rend, rend to bits, rend through and through, scorch and consume and burn to dust, the one who rejects the Vedas."
    Atharvaveda Kaand 12, Sukt 5,65-71,

  361. shabeer says:

    #Islam is entirely based on fear.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    #A religion that is founded on fear cannot be from God………………

    #Fear is the product of ignorance. ………………………

    #How can a religion, so filled with hatred and fear be from God that is pure love?

    INFORMATION ABOUT THE FUTURE PUNISHMENT IS NOT THE FEARING PEOPLE ,ALLHA ADVICE TO PEOPLE THAT AWAIRNESS ABOUT ,WHAT HAPPEND TO THEIR DESTINY ,AS A CREATOR INFORMTHE REALITY TO HUMAN ,HE NEVER PUNISH THE PEOPLE WITHOUT VALID EVIDENCE ,
    CONSIDER A RULER HE WARNED THE PEOPLE ,PEOPLE IF U WALK AGAINST THE LAW [KILL THE INOCENT,MURDERING,ROBBERY,ADULTARY,ETC],I WILL PUNISH U , FROM THE WARNING CAN WE EVER SAY HE WAS A " CRUAL RULER " ????? NO HE IDEAL MAN ,HE ENCOURAGE THE MORALITY & PUNISH ,WARN THE BAD PEOPLE ,WHO FEAR HIS WARNING ,YES WE KNOW THE CRUAL BASTERDS ONLY FEAR ABOUT HIS WARNING ,SUPPOSE HE SAYS LIKE PEOPLE I ALLOW U TO DID WHAT EVER U WANT [THAT U CAN KILLTHEPEOPLE,RAPETHE WOMEN,THEFT THE PEOPLE,NO LAW ,NO PUNISHMENT ,U CAN DID ANYTHING U LIKE,CAN U SAYS WHO THE WORD FROM THE JUSTER ? FIRST OR SECOND ???………THE ONE OF THE ATTRIBUTE OF ALLHA WAS RAHMAN[MERCY ],EVERY SURATH FROM THE CHAPTER BEGGIN WITH

    Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheemi
    In the Name of Allâh, the Most Beneficent[NONE OFTHEN BENIFICENT LIKE HIM], the Most Merciful[NONE OFTHEMMERCEFUL LIKE HIM].
    7:151. Mûsa (Moses) said: "O my Lord! Forgive me and my brother, and make us enter into Your Mercy, for you are the Most Merciful of those who show mercy."
    4:96. Degrees of (higher) grades from Him, and Forgiveness and Mercy. And Allâh is Ever Oft­Forgiving, Most Merciful.
    2:218. Verily, those who have believed, and those who have emigrated (for Allâh's Religion) and have striven hard in the Way of Allâh, all these hope for Allâh's Mercy. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most-Merciful.
    Muslim :: Book 37 : Hadith 6634
    Salman reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Verily, Allah created, on the same very day when He created the heavens and the earth, one hundred parts of mercy. Every part of mercy is coextensive with the space between the heavens. and the earth and He out of this mercy endowed one part to the earth and it is because of this that the mother shows affection to her child and even the beasts and birds show kindness to one another and when there would be the Day of Resurrection, Allah would make full (use of Mercy).
    WHAT THE REQUIREMENT OF FEAR? ALLHA CREATED US ,HE LEARNED THROUGH HIS PROPHET & SCRIPTURE WHAT R THE GOOD /BAD , …………..MY GOD BEING JUSTER HE NEVER PUNISHED THE GOOD PEOPLE ,
    Abu Sa'id Khudri said: If you don't testify me in this hadith, then recite if you like:" Surely Allah wrongs not the weight of an atom; and if it is a good deed. He multiplies it and gives from Himself a great reward" (al-Qur'an, iv. 40).
    Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 2 :: Hadith 42
    Narrated Anas:

    The Prophet said, "Whoever said "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah and has in his heart good (faith) equal to the weight of a barley grain will be taken out of Hell. And whoever said: "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah and has in his heart good (faith) equal to the weight of a wheat grain will be taken out of Hell. And whoever said, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah and has in his heart good (faith) equal to the weight of an atom will be taken out of Hell."

    "Nothing has been revealed to me about them except this single all-inclusive ayat, 'Whoever does an atom of good will see it, and whoever does an atom of evil, will see it.' " (Sura 99 Ayats 7,8) .

  362. shabeer says:

    # He did not care about people being good to each other……………..
    #1.5 billion people project hatred, they make this world a hell……………
    #Hate and love can’t dwell in the same heart…………………….

    AN IDEAL SHOULD BE LOVE TO WHO BEHAVE KIND,GOOD & PEACFULL CHARECTERS………&…….HATE THE KILLERS,TERRRORIST ,RAPERS,CRUAL PEOPLE ……………LOVE OF PEACE & HATE & BAD PEOPLE R THE IDEAL CHARECTERS OF THE GOOD PEOPLE……..

    Dawud :: Book 41 : Hadith 4923
    Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As:

    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The Compassionate One has mercy on those who are merciful. If you show mercy to those who are on the earth, He Who is in the heaven will show mercy to you.

    quarrel/fight prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 637
    oppression prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 629
    Help oppressed people
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 623,24
    Sales by lie trick prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 86 :: Hadith 107
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 80 :: Hadith 758 ,59
    Prohibited immoral way of earning money:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 86 :: Hadith 108
    unjustice/forced taken land prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 632,33,34
    treat the gust
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 641
    advocating good and forbidding evil
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 645
    serving animl[dog]
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 646
    forbade robbery & forbade mutilation [cuting body parts]
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 654
    adulterer,alcoholic drinker,robber & thief steals not a beliver:
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 655
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 320
    Robbery Prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 12
    theft/even a date prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 42 :: Hadith 612
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 78 :: Hadith 698
    theft prohibit
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 42 :: Hadith 614
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 320
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 81 :: Hadith 773
    Help the weak or do good for a person is charity:
    Bukhari 3:46:694
    torturing himself prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 78 :: Hadith 692
    muslim -muslim fighting prohibited
    Bukhari 1.2.30
    muslim justice with other muslim:
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 622,26
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 76 :: Hadith 491
    sect prohibited
    Bukhari 1.3.122,
    Muslim-Muslim fight prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 88 :: Hadith 193
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 13,14
    Muslim must good relation with other Muslim:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 85 :: Hadith 83
    muslim r brothers responsible:
    Dawud :: Book 41 : Hadith 4900 ,4896,97
    Fighting each other prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 88 :: Hadith 198,200, 201
    don't hate each other
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 80 :: Hadith 717
    don't desert (cut your relations with) one another
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 80 :: Hadith 717

  363. shabeer says:

    SINNER SAYS :

    #This makes God a sadist……………..

    # Why would God care to be worshiped by tiny insignificant humans and why would he be so offended if we don’t worship him?

    #A self-sufficient god creates humans so they worship him?

    ISLAM IS THE RELIGION FOR HUMAN ,FOR THEIR ETERNAL SALVATION & COMPLETE WAY OF LIFE TO ACHEIVE PERFECT LIFE & THE MOST SUPERIOR, IDEAL,TRUSTFUL CHARECTERS.OUR GOD NEVER REQUIRED OUR WORSHIP FOR HIS EXISTANCE,ISLAM REQUIRED FOR HUMAN,FOR THEIR GOOD FUTURE,THAT THE ONLY WAY OUR GOD ACCEPT AS AN IDEAL PATH ……………..HERE WE R CREATED HUMAN FROM THE GOD,WE NOTHING CREATED HERE …………WE DEPEND ALL FROM THE GOD [FROM A CHEMICAL REATION FROM A CELL TO GINGATIC STARS MOVING RANDOMLY WITHOUT COLLIDE WITH EACH OTHERS],WE REQUIRED HIM,HE NEVER REQUIRED US………..HE SELF SUPERIOR & POWERFUL,IF WE 7 BILLION PEIOPLE PRAY[FOLLOW] TO HIM OR NOT PRAY[FOLLOW] TO HIM [BOTH R NOT EFFECT HIS SUPERIORITY & POWER],IF GOD LIKE TO CREATE ALL OF US IN HELL,WHAT CAN WE DID AGAINST HIM?,IF HE CONVERT THIS PURE WATER OF RAIN TO THE ACID ,WHO THE POWER & WHO THE THINGS MAKE IT TO ITS ORGINAL NATURE? ,IF HE DECIDED OUR EYE VISIBLE LENSE TO THE X-RAY OR OTHERS,WHO THE POWERS BRING IT TO US ITS ORGINAL NATURE ?,THINK ABOUT IT WE DEPEND ALL THING TO HIM ,HE NEVER DEPEND US,ISLAM THE ONLY RELIGION OF ALMIGHTY GOD,HE EVER CREATED HUMAN FOR JUST A TIME PASS,HE CREATED HUMAN FOR WORSHIP TO HIM.OUR GOD SAY THE ISLAMIC WAY OF LIFE ,THAT ONLY MAKE A HUMAN TO ACHEIVE THE COMPLETE /MOST SUPERIOR LEVEL OF HUMAN,THAT THE ONLY WAY GOD ACCEPT FROM HUMAN,WHAT THE MEANING OF LIFE?, IS JUST,SLEEPING……EATING ………..EARNING ………………..? NO …………WE EVER CREATED LIKE THAT ,GOD CREATED US FOR LIVING THE COMPLETE WAY OF LIFE THAT HE REVILED THROUGH HIS PROPHETS & SCRIPTURES ,THAT ONLY GIVE US THE COMPLETE SATISFICATION & CONFIDENCE & COURAGIOUS & SALVATION………………. ISLAM THE GIFT OF GOD TO HUMAN FOR THEIR BETTER LIFE /SALVATION…………………….

    # Muhammad God will forgive all sins except the sin of disbelief. So you can abuse others, cheat them, and even kill them………….

    ACCORDING TO GOD THE 'SHIRK' THE MOST CRUAL SIN FROM THE HUMAN BEING ,EVERY PROPHET THE FIRST ADVICE OF THEIR SOCIETY WAS THOUHEED [WORSHIP ONLY TO ALLHA] ,BEC'S HE ONLY KNOW THE PEOPLE FUTURE & PAST ,HE CAN ONLY HELP SPIRTUALY & PHYSICALLY & HE WAS ONLY THE CREATOR OF WHOLE………………..SHIRK
    THAT NOT LEGAL LICENCE TO KILL,CHEAT,ABUSE TO OTHERS…………
    Dawud :: Book 32 : Hadith 4073
    Do not abuse anyone. He said that he did not abuse a freeman, or a slave, or a camel or a sheep thenceforth. He said: Do not look down upon any good work, and when you speak to your brother, show him a cheerful face.
    Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 162
    It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah b. Amr b. al-'As that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) observed: Abusing one's parents is one of the major sins.
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 86 :: Hadith 94
    Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:

    A man mentioned to the Prophet that he had always been cheated in bargains. The Prophet said, "Whenever you do bargain, say, 'No cheating.'"
    Prohibit killing with unjust:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 92 :: Hadith 423
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 37
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 17
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 2,3,6,9
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 840
    Bloodshed completely prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 4,7 ,8

  364. Evergreen says:

    Hi Grace, Who cares about this old testament which is full of lies n violent verses. So it cannot be trusted.

  365. Agracean says:

    Hi Evergreen, do you know what is the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament?And seriously speaking, do you know what is BC and AD? Don't you know that Confucius was not even born yet when Moses wrote the book of Leviticus?

  366. Sol Landet says:

    Now some mosque in europe started to burn.
    They suspect they are destroyed by muslims theirselves to give false accusation to EDL.

  367. Sol Landet says:

    "Don't you know that for decades, a group of global elite, the Bilderberg group and some secret societies ie. Freemasons, illuminati, have been secretly planning to create a new world order with a one world government?"

    This story is nonsense.
    First: Is just hard to rule a little country like Italy. The world is too big and America, Euo/asian/africa and Oceania are too far away as islands. Second, human life is not infinite. A so big project may belong only to people like Hitler or Mohammed(and Hitler was unable to go outside Europe, so Mohammed was unable to go outside Arabia) that want the power now, if you can't live enough to see your dreams of power, is not wort to fight to acheive them.
    Third: You conspirationist say your imaginary illuminati are a secret sect…. so secret that you know who are members, where they came from and even how many times at day they have a bat.
    Your theories are inconsistent, just like the quran

  368. Abid Ali says:

    Dear Ali Sir,

    A week back I sent you an article(How Muslims defend Islam), which I asked you to publish in your websites. I guess it didn't qualify for your websites and it was not upto the mark. Please, would you tell what happened; or people are improving it for appearance.

    Thanks & Warm regards,

    Abid Ali

  369. Abid says:

    The very first teaching for a Muslim child is the instruction of holding their faith tightly, so that none can shake your faith in Islam and on the integrity of Muhammad. This is just instilling one’s own belief into someone other, not educating with knowledge. In other words, it is nothing but ‘Brainwashing’. Education is that which does not require to be hammered into someone. It is boosting the power of realisation and evaluating a premise on the basis of integrity and conscience. Once a child has his reasoning elevated, he himself would decide what is right and what is wrong. This is a privilege the Muslim child is deprived of.
    Since the childhood, Muslims are warned not to read any books other than their own faith or anything critical to Islam or Muhammad. If Islam is so pure and true and Muhammad is so great a man, then why there is so much fear of such kinds. What kind of sick society Muslims live in where knowledge is censored and information is kept limited. If Allah is very much happy with divine ignorance and godly stupidity then Satan must be happy with Knowledge and Education. Isn't it?

  370. i am a communist says:

    at last ali is back. welcome ali. i was really concerned about your health and life. take care. do not get exposed. there are real headless roaches out there.

    keep up with your good work.

    best wishes.

  371. chuck says:

    Hilarious!!

  372. Just A Reader says:

    After a very long time Mr. Sina. I thought you are too busy with your other publication and unable to find time to write into this forum. I really like this comparison of moderate Mussalmans with moderate pregnancy. I always knew that moderate Mussalmans are like (dy/dx) of calculus, which is very transient and will either end up into rejecting or accepting. Mr. Rushdie, when he was hiding and his frustration, loneliness etc. crossed his elastic limit he came out open and accepted Islam because he after all believed in one God (I do not know why Muslims think that we Hindus believe in many gods, we also believe in one god which is omnipresent and omniscient consciousness which in Sanskrit is called Brahman and everything that we see, feel, do not see and do not feel is all manifestation of that) but it did not take him long to understand his mistake.

  373. @AliSina_FFI says:

    Well, is there any person who does not die? Even Muhammad died and he died in extreme pain. Thanks God I am an perfect health.

  374. @AliSina_FFI says:

    That is hilarious. The story is 5 years old, I wonder what happened. Did the Muslims build the mosque?

  375. Evergreen says:

    Agracean.
    Do u know what is BC n AD.? Confucius was born 551 years BEFORE CHRIST ( BC ) When bible was still in the dust n Jesus was still in the thin air.

  376. Agracean says:

    Hi Evergreen, the Golden Rule was first mentioned in the Old Testament, in the book of Leviticus 19:18 “‘Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord. Please be informed that Confucius was not even born yet.

  377. Agracean says:

    Hi Sanatan Dharma, Jesus Christ is the Author of the Golden Rule.

  378. Sol Landet says:

    Same here

  379. vijay says:

    Same is there in all the faith following panenthiesm . The guy called Sanatan Dharma will not agree to it but Guy called Sakat will agree and former follows Nayay Shastra(Logic and justification) while other is Buddhist with support to Vedanta(which agrees to panenthiesm). But they do not do same in India what Muslims are doing to each other in Pakistan, Saudi, Syria, Iraq or Mali ie secternal killing of each other.

  380. Sanatan Dharma says:

    If Ali Sina dies muslim will say it is curse of Allah on him.

  381. Evergreen says:

    The golden rule was discovered by the Chinese sage, Confucius ( 551 – 479 BC ). He had said : "What you do not want others to do to you, do not do to others."

  382. Sanatan Dharma says:

    @Agracean
    It is God who is author of Golden rule not Jesus. Jesus was the followers of the Golden Rule. But Mohammad was kuf he did not followed Golden rule. Mohammad made mockery of God & God's Golden rule.

  383. Evergreen says:

    WOW ! Billions & Billions of USD are used to build mosques in USA n Europe. Little is given to the starving Syrian n Mynmar Muslim refugees. Dominate the world first with their endless supply of petrol dollars. Other emergency aids are not important.

  384. Evergreen says:

    It should read " PIGS RACES DURING FRIDAY AFTERNOON PRAYERS !

  385. sunsetsinmuddywater says:

    Truly a good article.

  386. Evergreen says:

    A Muslim buys eleven acres of land next to a pig farm, (a family farm that has been in Houston a long time) and NOW, THE MUSLIM WANTS THE PIG FARMER TO LEAVE! That takes a lot of nerve! So, what's the pig farmer's response to that?

    PIG RACES DURING FRIDAY NIGHT PRAYERS!

    I love it! Don't mess with Texans! The clip is funny. Even the Fox News crew is laughing in the background.
    http://www.youtube.com/embed/dUr1NxJDC94?rel=0

    Well, they knew the pig farm was there when they bought the property!

  387. Sanatan Dharma says:

    Each thought in the mind produces a a certain pattern of neuron firing in the mind. Based on this, various physiological changes start taking place including change in hormonal levels, heart-rate etc. Further, even the neurological patterns start adapting to this thought. Thus, if you think of same thing again and again, the neurons create a pattern that next time it is easier to take that thought process ahead. That is why we see people getting into good or bad habits. These thoughts define one’s thinking patterns, and hence his or her personality, health and actions.Thus, each thought influences who we are. And by changing this thought, we can decide who we would be. Further, the same process is happening among all humans. And when we interact with them, based on our thought patterns we produce a myriad of social patterns and behaviors, which further influence who we are.Not only humans and society, this influence is also extended to nature in general because we are designed to exchange matter and energy continuously with nature. Thus we would see that merely by will-power, at times, unbelievable miracles happen in medical science.Thus thoughts become our destiny. We, the souls, are different from our body and mind. And when we die, the body and mind (brain) stop having sustainable exchange of matter and energy with nature, and hence the system decays to death. But the soul, who was controlling this system, is unaffected.Now it gets into another emerging system (mind-body) and starts its journey again. Because memories are part of brain cells, they get destroyed in this migration process. But the soul carries a vital body with it which carries the Sanskaars (traits) with it. God ensures that the new system provided is the best fit for uninterrupted journey ahead for the soul. Now, based on traits, the soul develops its personality again. It also continues interaction with the world outside in the same manner as it was doing earlier and continues to evolve itself.
    At each moment, God ensures that situation we face in the world is best suited for our pursuit of ultimate bliss. This is a continuous optimization process. If we exercise our will to do stupid things, stupid situations emerge and we start a descending to unhappiness. If we exercise our will to do things in pursuit of truth, we ascend. This process is uninterrupted by death.
    Question: What about animals and lower species? How can they exercise their will?
    Answer:
    Broadly speaking, only humans have the potential to exercise their will. Other species can only accept what happens to them and cannot exercise their will? When a soul descends too low that it no more exercises its will as a human, then it gets birth as animals where these tendencies that it had collected can be purged out. Same is case with those born insane or terminally ill.Please note that it is a multi-dimensional world. So depending upon the thought patterns in these various dimensions and aspects of life, the potential combinations are virtually infinite. It is not a discrete system but completely continuous. Thus conditions vary for birth of each soul – in different species, conditions, health, society etc.

  388. Agracean says:

    Dear Ms Dr Ali Sina, "This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long… We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." – David Rockefeller speaking at the United Nations Ambassadors' dinner. [Sept. 23, 1994]

  389. Agracean says:

    Oh, my dearest Ms Dr Ali Sina, I can foresee the worst scenario that's going to happen to the world, due to human stupidity and it's time for you to look up to Jesus Christ, the Author of the Golden Rule for love, joy and peace. Only He can deliver you from evil.:)

  390. Agracean says:

    Let me quote what this famous bank joker from America, David Rockefeller, once openly confessed before the media in June 1991, which is more than two decades ago, about the coming of a new world order. "We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."

  391. Agracean says:

    Dear Ms Dr Ali Sina, you said that "This planet is ready for its next phase of evolution. The Internet has paved the way to bring all mankind closer. I am not talking about a world government. We should never allow that to happen. I am talking about the unity in purpose, based on love. Love is the child of freedom; it cannot be enforced. The individual’s right must never be taken away. Humanity must come together so that we can expand our consciousness. This will be possible when we get rid of hate and let love reside in our hearts."

    Wake up from your sweet dream, my dearest Ms Dr Ali Sina! Don't you know that for decades, a group of global elite, the Bilderberg group and some secret societies ie. Freemasons, illuminati, have been secretly planning to create a new world order with a one world government?

  392. Intelligent lad says:

    Eagerly waiting for your new book. Writing books is the time best spent for you. Your each book will be a mighty weapon against Islam. Please complete the 101 myths of Islam book also.

  393. Intelligent lad says:

    Sri Ali Sina's Philosophy sounds a lot like Hinduism.

  394. Sakat says:

    Dr Sina your words"The universe is not made of matter. It is made of consciousness. This is the biggest discovery ever. Quantum physics tells us that we create our world. The world comes to be through our consciousness. It is pure consciousness."

    "The Universe is made of consciousness" is exactly what the ancient sages,Risish's,Yogis of India have found some five to ten thousand year,s back .If these Mohammedans would not have entered India and destroyed the ancient Universities of Taxila and Naland perhaps humanity would have progressed 1000 years ahead of the present. Westerners felt ashamed to proclaim Indian advancement in the field of science and spirituality ,they tried to evade it and in doing we lost the link that " the "Universe is made of consciousness" .Now this is where the world is coming back to Veda's .Ultimately here exactly the spirituality and science merges for the benefit of our future ventures.

  395. Agracean says:

    Oh my dear Ms Dr Ali Sina, finally, the cow comes home. I thought that the cow has lost its way and find another new home instead. Do you know that I miss you like crazy?
    You said, "A self-sufficient god creates humans so they worship him? If the goal of creation is to worship God then God is not self-sufficient. He must be a needy God. If I make a chair, it is because I need it. If I don’t need a chair, why would I make? If God does not need humans why did he make them? If he needs them then he is a needy god. A needy god cannot be God."
    The absolute truth is that God has the free will and the absolute power to do as He please. That's the reason why we are all created to be free moral beings because we are all created in His image. You have the choice and the free will to make a chair irregardless of whether you need it or not. So, it's not a needy but a love issue here. Maybe you'll like to ponder on the reasons why your parents chose to gave birth to you and your siblings? I believe that you'll truly be enlightened by this great discovery and humble yourself before my loving Creator God and acknowledge that Jesus Christ is God's love to you. <3

  396. Sakat says:

    Instead of fearing for the judgment day ,why? can't these Muslims try to leave happily with other co-human being.They seldom know what is hard work ,they want to appropriate others wealth all the time.Purity of heart dispels fear and ,fear removes the notions of hell and heaven,judgment day etc,kind of Mohammed psychic thoughts. Sina really wonderful article,you have made us orphan for long time ,thanks for returning on the platform with an another remarkable masterpiece.

  397. FoT says:

    Great article Dr. Sina, a true masterpiece. I admire that you use simple logic to reveal the false and stupid ideas of Islam.

    Islam was never about spirituality, it is fascism which is very poorly disguised as a religion. You cannot grow as a spiritual being if you practice Islam. On the contrary, you will only deteriorate and become a person filled with irrational fear and hatred towards non-muslims.

    Islam is only good for one thing: Controlling the gullible masses through fear and terror.

    On the subject of Day of Judgement, I must say that I personally believe in the end of the world. But I believe that this end will "treat everyone equally" (ie. everyone will be destroyed). I think of the day of judgement in a scientific way. Mass extinctions have happened before and they will happen again. But I think it is foolish to fear the day of judgement. We should just go with the flow and, if some comet or solar flare destroys life on earth, then so be it. Even if a mass extinction will hit us, I dont think life will ever completely end. But if it does, it certainly dosn't make a difference whether you pray 5 times a day or not.

    This is just my opinion

  398. phoenix says:

    I had that problem to with being unable to register on FFI.I think that's why there are so few comments there nowadays.

  399. phoenix says:

    Spiritual growth is attained through consciousness. Everything is consciousness. The only way we can attain more consciousness is through love."

    Well said.

    There is no day of judgement,where believers all go to heaven and unbelievers go to hell.The information we have thus far ,albeit mainly anecdotal and universally consistent despite ones religious belief or lack thereof,concerning the soul's destiny after daeth is that it undergoes a "life review" which assesses the evolution in each indivivdual's consciousness.

  400. Evergreen says:

    Judgement Day is BS. Justice delayed too long is no justice. In God's Law of karma, evil doers will get their "judgement" in a one, a few or many generations through reincarnation as arranged by the Supreme God.
    Arabs killed and prosecuted the Jews in Arab lands since the 7th century and now the Jews in Israel is doing the payback to their descendants in the ME.
    In the 19th the British had forced China to import opium n many Chinese families become poor n destitute due opium addiction. Now we do see many white men"s descendants are drug addicts n junkies.
    USA bombed. other countries with B 52s and other warplanes. God send them the E 5 tornadoes, forest fires, floods, etc & etc..
    The Japs invaded China in 20th century, killing n raping millions of its citizen. What their descendants got was the earthquake cum tsunami destroying 4 nuke plants, causing massive loss of lives n properties and great radiation pollution. Many of these descendants are the reincarnated souls of the dead soldiers of Japanese Imperial Army in WW2.
    This is a just a few examples of how the Laws of the Supreme God works. He has nothing to with the fake gods created by religions. He had said " You get what you deserved." and " Do good deeds always and you will have no fear of any punishment.", as contained in the Buddhist doctrines.

  401. chuck says:

    Welcome back Ali

  402. avika says:

    I registered weeks ago but never be accepted. I have to register again today as avika.

  403. vijay says:

    There was one Shabbo Darling/Shabeer and its lover Abdu Rasul, they had a wishful feeling that Dr Sina has reverted back to the religion which he left. I welcome you back Dr Sina and feel pity for wishful thinking. And i seek forgiveness for using wrong words for two Momins. Take it lightly and reply Dr Sina.

  404. @AliSina_FFI says:

    I am working on a new book.

    And why don't you visit our forum? I am posting there too, when I have time
    Visit also my tweeter.

  405. avika says:

    Ali, it has been two months since your last post and I used to think that you were dead. Luckily, you are alive.

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