Invitation to Dr. Michael D. Berdine to Prove Islam is Tolerant

Today I received an email from my esteemed friend Abdullah ibn Abi Sarh (a pseudonym) author of Prophet Muhammad Illustrated who asked me whether I  would be willing to debate  with Michael D. Berdine Ph.D, a convert to Islam, who had left the following message in his website.

DrBerdine-

This is a Muslim-bashing at its worst.  Lies, half-truths and distortions do not history or truth make.  While there are some truths mentioned, most were half-baked, twisted or distorted and without the full story.  

Other despicable acts mentioned are the work of evil humans who call themselves Muslim, but hardly act as Islam teaches.  This is just like the Christian Crusaders, who boiled, roasted and ate babies (documented facts) on the First Crusade, the Spanish Inquisitors who tortured, maimed and killed in the name of Jesus or Adolf Hitler and his cohorts, ostensibly Christians all, who perpetrated the most heinous crimes against humanity in recorded history.  None of these acts had anything to do with what Christianity teaches either.  So, why identify an entire religion with what a few of its so-called adherents did?  

Interestingly enough, Muslims wouldn’t dream of condemning Christianity for the acts of the Crusaders, Inquisitors, or Hitler, or anyone else.  They believe that it’s the individuals who are at fault, not the religion.  That’s how they see it.  So, why can’t we?  If Muslims or Christians, or those from other faith traditions were to follow the teachings of their faith   so similar among all the world’s major faiths world over   the world would be a much better place.    

Otherwise, what the author has done here is rehash old stories that have been disproved before and added one or two new ones (with one-sided explanations).  This is a book for people who want to believe the worst about Islam and Muslims.  As such, it is hardly historical, or factual.    

 I’ve always found it interesting to see Christians so eager to attack Islam, while Muslims never attack Christianity in response.  Perhaps that’s because they’ve been told in the Qur’an not to do so, nor to argue with Christians (except kindly) and consider them closest in faith to themselves.        

 Some Christians, like the author of this work (if he is a Christian), all too often show Christianity at its worst.  This is a trait too many Christians have shown, on behalf of Christianity, against all who disagreed with it since it became the religion of the Roman Empire at the end of the fourth century.        

 This is not to say Muslims haven’t done bad things, or been bad people, far from it.  But it does say that just as those Christians mentioned earlier who didn’t follow their faith and its teachings, so some Muslims   not acting as Islam taught   have done horrific things, too.  As such, they are not considered Muslims   like those who flew the hijacked planes into the Twin Towers.  Knowledgeable Muslims believe they’ve  gone to hell in a handcart  as false martyrs.  Whether or not they were actually practicing Muslims, or just using the religion as a cover for their heinous crimes as so many have done since time immemorial, will be left up to a higher authority than us to judge.  

In conclusion, the publication of this book was a sad day for tolerance and understanding and, otherwise contributed nothing positive or good but only added immeasurably to ignorance about Muslims and Islam. Today, we are at war, but it’s a war led by morally bankrupt and un-Christ-like neoconservative fundamentalist Christians against Islam.  And this book has joined in the fray.

Michael D. Berdine, Ph.D

Dr. Berdine is a convert to Islam. In his testimony he says how he came to be impressed with the chant of Adan when he was growing up in India during his formative years, which led him to be fascinated by this religion until at the age of 45, he became interested in the history of Islam and finally after reading “Arberry’s t translation of the Holy Qur’an that summer and realizing no man could have written it that did it for me.”   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/islamic_ways/message/7935

I find Dr. Berdine’s story interesting because in my case also it was the Quran that did it for me.  Prior to that moment I had refused to read any book or even an article that smelled of criticism of Islam. I did not consider such writings worthy of my time.  I was not willing to read them even for the purpose of rejecting them.  I realized Islam is a lie when I read the Quran.  I read that book in Arabic and used English and Persian translations at the same time to make sure I understand what I read.  I must say that the English translations are all deceptive. All the translators of the Quran have done their best to hide the real evilness of that book. The Persian translation is far more accurate and closer to the real thing. I can understand why. The English translations are for the consumption of non-Muslims who must be deceived. The Quran must be sugarcoated for them. The Persians are already Muslim and they have to be told the truth.  

So I am very curious to see what Dr. Berdine saw in the Quran that I failed to see.  When I started reading that book, I had no doubt that it is the word of God. I approached it expecting to find divine guidance. All I found were hate, violence, absurdity, and asininity.   The author of the Quran came across as an ignoramus and not just ignorant but very evil person.

Needless to say that I went through a tremendous shock that lasted two years. My whole world fell apart. Two years later, in 1906, I accepted that Islam is a lie and started delving into its texts to learn more. When I read the history of Tabari I felt nauseated.  The details of the crimes and brutalities of Muhammad and his companions are heart wrenching.  At times I could not read more. I had to go out for a walk, pained for imagining the sufferings of those innocent people whom Muhammad butchered, enslaved and raped.  While studying Islam I came face to face with Devil himself in the person of Muhammad.    

 So I am always curious to hear the reasoning of those who convert to Islam.  I was born to a Muslim family and was indoctrinated and brainwashed since childhood.  I want to know why one who has been exposed to far better beliefs becomes attracted to an ideology as evil as Islam.   

In his comment on the Prophet Muhammad Illustrated, Dr. Berdine says Muslims respect Christianity and laments that others can’t respect Islam. He says, just as one mustn’t judge Jesus by the bad actions of his followers, one must also not blame Islam for the bad deeds of Muslims.  This statement is only partially true. One cannot blame Jesus if Christians do evil things because he never did evil nor he taught evil.  Christians do evil despite the teachings of Jesus. Even though they don’t go killing people in the name of Jesus. However, Muhammad committed countless evil acts and he taught evil.  So, to the extent that Muslims follow the teachings of their prophet and emulate him they become evil.

Dr. Berdine wrote, “some Muslims   not acting as Islam taught   have done horrific things, too.  As such, they are not considered Muslims  like those who flew the hijacked planes into the Twin Towers.  Knowledgeable Muslims believe they’ve  gone to hell in a handcart  as false martyrs.”

If such horrendous acts of terror were limited to a few Muslims we could have accepted Dr. Berdine’s explanation. Sadly it is not. Jihad is part of Islam and there is only one meaning to this word and that is terror.  Terrorism is a way of life for all true Muslims. Not every Muslim is a terrorist but every true Muslim is.  There is not a day that some Muslim don’t  kill some innocent people in the name of Allah, expecting to be rewarded for it.  Just today, 6 July 2013, Muslim gunmen attacked a secondary school in Mamudo, Yobe State in  Nigeria, killing at least 42 students and teachers.  Why? Because Muslims want to stop the westernization of Nigeria. This is the idea promoted by Muhammad who called anything that is not Islamic Jahiliyah and Taghooti and ordered his followers to kill those who follow them.Is this how Muslims respect other religions? Muslims are busy killing Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, animists, atheists, humanists and everyone else, everywhere in the world. People everywhere fear Muslims because so many of them are terrorist. What respect? What tolerance? Muhammad said Jews are monkeys and pigs and that the end of the world will not come until Muslims kill all the Jews. He said the Christians have “gone astray” and the wrath of God is on the Jews. This is in the first chapter of the Quran that Muslims recite daily. How much respect and tolerance is there in that sura alone for others?

How come so many Muslims have got it so wrong? Why the followers of no other religion are so bent in killing others to go to heaven?  I find a lot of evil in the Quran and I believe those evil teachings are responsible for all these crimes perpetrated by Muslims all over the world and through the history.   

Dr. Berdine urges others to be tolerant of a belief system (BS)  that promotes hate, violence and terror and ignores that it is his co-religionists who are killing innocent people all over the world because of this very BS.

Now, is it possible that I am mistaken and Dr. Berdine has got it right?  I don’t think so, but since I learn from my past errors, I no longer close the doors of learning. Unlike before, I am ready to read and listen to views that are contrary to mine.  I make an offer to Dr. Berdine: If he can show anything new in Islam that is good, I will revert back to Islam and will close my sites.  In gratitude, I also donate to him or to the charity of his choice the sum of $100,000 USD.

All he has to do is to show us one thing that is not rehashed from other religions and is also useful and good for mankind.  The reader may recall that this was the challenge made by the 14th century  Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaiologos to a Persian Muslim who wanted to convert him.  The Emperor said, “Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.  This challenge has never been met. If Dr. Berdine can meet it, he will be remembered by history.

PS.

Dr. Berdine did not reply to this invitation. Maybe he needs some persuasion. After all, it is not just his own good name but the good name of Islam that is at stake. Failure to reply only validates my point that Islam cannot defend itself logically and the only way Muslim know how to advance it is through terror or deception. None works in this case and therefore Muslims pretend not to I don’t exist.  Whether you are a Muslim or not, you may want to write to Dr. Berdine and ask him to please reply.  Here is his email [email protected] and this is his facebook   www.facebook.com/michael.berdine

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846 Responses

  1. Ali Sina says:

    None of the English translations of the Quran are 100% reliable. The worst in my opinion is that of Rashed Khalifa. He is the most deceiving. The simplest is that of Sarwar. I have a PDF file containing nine translations. I generally read more than one translation and if in doubt always compare them with the Arabic version to be sure

  2. Ali Sina says:

    Well thank you Gregandalf, My work is not actually difficult, it is quite pleasant and joyful. Life however, is a different story It can be at times very difficult and challenging. I suppose that is the whole idea of living. We come here to face the life's challenges. i only pray that mine are not more than what I can bear, even though at times they look so.

  3. greygandalf says:

    Mr Ali Sina – You are able to shed a bright light on things spiritual – and bring reason and logic to bear on the difficult questions. You have a rare gift of applying insight, knowledge, and intelligence to the difficulties inherent in our times. Islam needs the strong light of reason (with compassion) shone on it, in an attempt to 'reform' the unreformable. Many people appreciate your work, which must be difficult at times. Thank you.

  4. mannasustains says:

    Thanks for all the work you do, Ali Sina. Do you have any recommendations for good English translations of the Quran?

  5. slaveofprophet says:

    @Jamalaya
    Every day thousand of believers in Allah get killed in the conspiracy of non-Muslims. One Muslim life is Equal to more than 30 non-Muslims. 

  6. @Jamalaya says:

    it is obvious that Firnandezz that does not read the news. Everyday there is killing by musilms in the name of Allah and Islam (not in a war) all over the world. From Lebanon to Pakistan.

  7. shimlavision says:

    To all Indians
    I hate Islam and believe that it was the worst thing that happened to india however how many of us know that the owner of East India company was a jew Rothschild. Who was responsible for enslaving india to the white man and stealing our vedas and science and gold from temples.
    He was the one to steal all the vedic knowledge than translate it and attribute it to the inventions of white man. search Google for "NEWTON THE CALCULUS THIEF" and THE INDIAN VIMANAS SHASTRA" or the ROTHSCHILD CONSPIRACY or "THE JEWESH HASBARA" to know the truth.
    AND MIND IT ALL THIS WAS DONE IN INDIA, THE LAND WHERE THE JEWS WERE NEVER PERSECUTED AND WERE WELCOMED(ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE ISRAEL GOVT. AND THERE HISTORIANS)

  8. Isle says:

    Iran will be the first country to get itself free from Islam.

    I wish this were true.

  9. Isle says:

    She's trying to splash cold water on everyone. Beware of her yeast.

  10. Isle says:

    If you guys keep on listening to her, you'll go nuts. She is misleading.

  11. Isle says:

    Dr Ali Sina,
    I am really appreciated.

  12. Isle says:

    There should be separation from religion and politics. Unless this can be done there can be no freedom to talk about at all. History repeats itself, the old medieval ways of slavery should not have its part in the present society. One just can't go back the time. We need to advance otherwise we may be push back to the old ancient days where much lives may be tortured and suffered all in the name of religion. The world has been held sway…and we do not want to live the kind of life where we may be held with a knife at our throat as this may be a great disaster to all of us mankind. History has taught us and we ought to learn never to have this repeated again. One of the greatest lesson mankind can learn is: to learn and to unlearn so that we may be a wiser personnel and humanity.

  13. ihateislam says:

    When a system decays the blame cuts across the board. The ignorance prevalent in muhammadan societies is a product of the rulership as well as the followership. It is said that a people get the type of government they deserve at any particular time. It is true that for selfish reasons the rulership of muhammadan countries use religion to suppress the populace. Kemal Ataturk said so and Princess Basma bint Saud bin Abdullaziz has also said the same thing. But the followership want to be fooled forever. Reading some of the posts by muhammadan contributors on this site confirms this. These writers are even educated and more than the ordinary members of their societies, yet they justify what is happening. The founder of the muslim brotherhood was trained in America while Ayeman Al-Zawahiri had part of his education in Europe. With educated people, who should know better, lending their weight to the rot, the process of liberating those imprisoned minds will be long and arduous because even in the West, where some of them have taken refuge, their mentality is still warped.

  14. ihateislam says:

    The muhammadans have practiced conversion through abduction from Muhammad's time to the present. The Turks would demand the conquered people to contribute certain numbers of boys and young men who were then pressed into the sultan's army. They were called 'Janissary'. After military training and indoctrination, which was laced with opium, the same children were sent back to kill their kith and kin without a modicum of feeling.These drugs controlled children were the most vicious of the soldiers in the service of the sultan. The same thing is happening in the Philippines where abducted children forced to convert to muhammadanism attack their former communities without mercy. Abduction and 'adoption' are tools used to convert one time human beings into the worst kind of perverts.

  15. chrisheath says:

    Somewhere I read, that generally, Mohammed would slaughter for 3 days, and then ask the remainder, if they wanted to convert, or pay tax. This meant plenty of war-booty, slaves, and concubines, while at the same time, gaining tax money(long term income) and more Muslims. Children were often adopted, and they automatically became Muslim. ( I have read the term ' until the ground runs red with blood' )

  16. chrisheath says:

    I agree, it has been written, to be easy to understand. [019_097] And We make (this Scripture) easy in thy tongue.

    Of course, if the whole thing is made up (surely not??????????), then its a waste of time to analyse it in detail. All we know is, its deadly to non-muslims.

  17. chrisheath says:

    However, western authors have tended to perceive "a long, culturally determined, and unchanging tradition of violent iconoclastic acts" within Islamic society.[20] wikipedia

  18. chrisheath says:

    Momo , , you must be reading a different Koran from the rest of us? You certainly haven't been paying attention to the war lessons, as taught in madrassas. I suppose, though, justice can be seen through evil eyes, and it is punishment and death for others. And morals can be viewed through Satan's eyes, and pronounce all others sinful, and wicked, and deserving of their punishment.

  19. chrisheath says:

    Proof that it is a religion of hate and evil is far more abundant.

  20. Isle says:

    But they refused to, choosing rather to remain silent and to stay by the sidelines. No one and virtually no nation of theirs resort to standing up to speak directly to admonish the atrocities committed in the name of this religion for fear of their own inconveniences and trouble which may prevail in their own homeland. And so it seems however it may sound difficult at this moment to curb these adversity, the work of truth must still go on until it reaches every corner of the globe. Education plays an important role in getting people to advance. It is for this reason the government of some of the Islamic nations refused or deny their citizens education for fear they may acquire knowledge thus difficult to control them. They are just as happy to keep them in the dark, promoting only religion as the only sustenant of life to which nothing is of much more paramount important than this. By doing this, they're utterly wrong. At the end of the day, it is power that they want and counts…all at the expense of the citizens.

  21. Isle says:

    At this present time, the great controversy is going on in the battle field…the battle between good and evil, light and of the dark forces battling with one another for supremacy. It is only truth…that will set us free from slavery. The whole ideology of the concept had been wrong since the day of its inception. What do we see today? We see strife, animosity, murder, injustices, destruction, the list can go on and on. Supremacy of darkness seems to be governing the present day with no way of freeing oneself. It is like freedom is caught in a spider web and entrap, finding it difficult to rid of this prison. The way is narrow and it takes us more than courage to free society from this entrap. It may seem difficult but I believe with consistency and determination couple with wisdom, things may prevail. Humans are funny in that some refuse to see the truth. They prefer the easy way out by simply being gullible. They didn't compare with sound doctrine, thus giving in to seducing spirits and the soul itself was sold to perdition. Truth were oppress and trodden down while evil seems to be embrace and celebrated with no consciences of the natural. The day will come when truth will triumph and unless we continue the good works of truth, without being wary, truth will not prevail.

  22. chrisheath says:

    You have my immense respect. I believe in the sanctity of human life, above all else. i RESPECT PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT ISLAM, ABOVE ALL OTHERS. Because of the threats that they come under. But also because they have realized how destructive the concept of Islam is. And they have realized the lies and deceit. They have made a gigantic step towards realiizing that they have recognized the destructive nature of Islam, and are making positive steps to move away from it, no matter how personally dangerous.

  23. chrisheath says:

    Geezer, spot on – people just talk ++++ when we want to know the truth….

  24. chrisheath says:

    Absolutely correct. Small minority = mice. Larger minority = protests, victimhood, threats. Large minority = violent protest, damage, 'pretext' assaults, violent marches. Majority = shit happens.

  25. chrisheath says:

    Stop playing the game – the big boys are coming……..

  26. chrisheath says:

    The horses of the apocalypse are being harnessed. The Forces (outside of our knowledge) ARE READYING THEMSELVES. If you are in doubt, prepare yourself. If you are True to yourself, and Humanity, you have nothing to Fear. If you have Hidden Untruths, within Your Soul……you Must prepare to have them exposed. This is by no means a threat. It is a Message from the Ones who are greater than us ( beings, rather than Gods), they have HAD ENOUGH of our BULLSHIT. The Earth is reacting. One could say, the END TIME IS NEARING ( but that's not correct).
    YOU need to search your Soul, the Depths of your being, and say, have I the right, to believe what I believe?
    And what does this mean to my fellow man? Will they suffer? Do I want to be treated , as I want to treat other human beings?

  27. chrisheath says:

    Amazing, and I feel that the GOOD of the universe is behind you. The evil ones have had their playful times, and WILL NOW BE CALLED TO ACCOUNT, for their evil ways. And we may not know the reason, or understand the play (the Divine play) that will oppose their will. But it is decided, amongst them. The days of the evil ones are numbered, and can be no more. The Justice of the Universe will reign again, and the heinous sins will be arraigned against those who have pretended. They shall be no more.

  28. chrisheath says:

    Policing Brotherhood Uber Haram. That is the point. Arab thinking, desert thinking. Anything goes. Steal, murder, kill rape, FOLLOW the Mo geezer, he's the Kool dude, who got away with it, made his own rules, and DOMINATED. look up DR Bill Warner, Why we are afraid, 1400 years, youtube. And drop by 'TROP', to see how YOU, as a non-Muslim are respected by people of the Muslim faith ( or is that Muslim fatwah?)

  29. chrisheath says:

    You see death caused by Muslim in all countries of the world. Except where they don't let them in. Of course we like their curries, and that is death.

  30. ihateislam says:

    A muhammadan is a muhammadan any day. All of them speak the same language and behave in the same way. Even those called 'moderates,' like Erdogan of Turkey and Mahathir Muhammad of Malaysia, say that "islam is one". Therefore, to call somebody a moderate is an insult. There can be no dichotomy for as long as all of them believe in the quran and see Muhammad as the role model to be emulated. Those two determine the behavior of the muhammadan.

  31. chrisheath says:

    Studying Persia, it was a fascinating culture, perhaps one of the earliest, large cultures, encompassing religion, music, art, humanities etc. It seems to me that the Islamic takeover (as in so many places) adopted the good, for a while, when they (Muslims) were making money from the subjugation. Then, when there was a bit of a downturn in the fortunes of the Muslims, they went back to the fundamental doctrines in the Koran, and would start to destroy the culture they dominated (non-Muslims ,churches, libraries, museums, statues, anything). And when they destroyed everything non-Muslim, they start on themselves, and destroy any unlike-minded Muslim.
    However, as Islam has not got a central power base, it can mutate and adapt to various political scenarios, and that is why you see Muslims saying things like 'It is not islamic to be a suicide bomber', ' It is not Islamic to be a Jihadist', ' It is not Islamic to be a terrorist'. Maybe not , but the SPEAKER AND THE PERPETRATOR ARE BOTH MUSLIMS.
    'Moderate Muslims', are going to have to differentiate themselves, or be CONSIDERED THE SAME. IT IS NOT UP TO NON_MUSLIMS TO FIGURE OUT WHO IS A MUSLIM TERRORIST AND WHO IS NOT.

    'Good' Muslims are going to have to start standing up and stating their case.

    Search 'TROP' online to see how YOU, as a non-Muslim, are to be treated by Muslims, in the Koran.

  32. chrisheath says:

    Ali Sina – great information, and , as I'm interested, I am intrigued that you say Iran will be the first to be free of Islam – can you explain? Of course, if you cannot speak about it , I understand.

  33. chrisheath says:

    I met an Iranian in Eastbourne, (UK), a few days ago. He had been a successful man, as a bank manager, in the days of the Shah. But he had married an English girl. They had to flee for their lives when the Khomeini regime started. ( So he committed a criminal offence by not marrying a Muslim – and she committed a punishable offence, by NOT BEING A MUSLIM). They left Iran with nothing, but a great distaste for the bile in their mouths, created by an invented political ideology, pretending to be a religion.

  34. chrisheath says:

    As if by magic, or witchcraft, or Guile BY a Greater God, A Pigs Head appeared to me. And on it were written the words (in pigs blood, or so it seemed), ' Search TROP online'.

    And Lo, the idolators were blessed by a visitation, a tumult arose in their midst, a congregation, singing in their voices most high – we come to praise you, we come to join you in the feast of Allah, a feast of the least holy upon earth, all mortals must press their heads to the mat, and enjoin us in our prayers, such that a mark WILL BE impressed upon their forehead.
    A vision, of one most holy, came to me, and said, you unbeliever, unless you search for 'TROP' online, you WILL be smitten, in the neck, and each hand, and each finger, and each foot. And your torture forever, will be the scorching of the fires of the Worcester-Bosch alliance, though they may be great amongst you, and fearful will be their wrath, in the frozen winters, for they will heat, and fearful will be their thermal output, when the sun goes down, and they shall burn the ever dwindling gas and oil reserves, whenceforth are the Revenues Most Great are created for the followers of Allah ( Plumbing By Heating be Upon Him).

    For there is no cold so great, that it cannot be OVERCOME with the correctly rated boiler, and their is NO FAITH so strong, that it will break the bonds of Yorkshire Fittings (Plumbing by Heating Be Upon Them).

    And so, it came to pass , within the furnace of a Combi-Boiler, and the pressure therein, that countless souls were roasted, due to the incorrect setting. And a NEW FAITH came into being. That of Thermostatic Control. And Great was the Fear, and TUMULTUOUS was its welcome, as apostates from Oslam no longer were required to be roasty toasty both sides (then cast asunder unto the Great Conflagration), but that they could warm the cockles, and the curry, without thermal underwear, or Fear that they had offended the Great Allahmighty, in the heavens.

  35. ihateislam says:

    Aryan Hindu,
    Has he said that he belongs to any particular faith? As far as I have read, all he has said is that he now believes in God. That is not a declaration for any faith. It can be seen that there is a subtle nudge to woo him in a certain direction.

  36. Aryan Hindu says:

    @ihateislam ,,,,,,,,,,,,Ali Sina is not a member of any Abraham faith.

  37. ihateislam says:

    Aryan Hindu,
    "ALI SINA NO ABRAHAMIC".
    What does that mean?

  38. Ali Sina says:

    Hi Isle.

    Iranian people are no different from any other people. I have lived among many people, and saw the good and the bad in all of them. Most people are good and there is a small percentage that is not. Those evil people will make your life miserable if you have the bad luck to cross their path. In Iran the evil people have come to power and not only they oppress others they also pose a threat to mankind.

  39. Aryan Hindu says:

    Ali Sina no Abrahamic.

  40. Isle says:

    I disagree with you Gendus, that all atheist hate all religions. Sometimes atheist are better people than those people who have religion. In each human, we've from within us a conscience, a conscience between right and wrong, between good and evil, and it is up to us to choose for ourselves which way we want to go. No body can decide this for us. It is entirely up to us where we want to tread…to built or to destroy.

  41. Isle says:

    The truth is…you do not study the Qur'an yourself. It is true that Mohammad urges his people to drink camel's urine for health. Please refer to your Qur'an..

  42. Isle says:

    Hello Ali Sina, thank you so much for this site. It's been an inspiration and I found myself just can't stop visiting it to get more knowledge of your revelation and insight into what you are familiar with as regards to this religion.

  43. Isle says:

    Yes indeed, I agreed with this…that the Iranian people are generally good people.

  44. Ali Sina says:

    That dog of yours need a medal of honor.

  45. Sakat says:

    Therefore Mohammed prohibited Dogs in his religion hahaha……………………:o

  46. Samir S. Halabi says:

    I was attacked for being recognizable as being Jewish by two Arab-Muslims in France, I was born in an Arab country which i shall not name now! If not for my massive protector/bodyguard Canine whom always now accompanies me wherever I go, the situation could have got out of hand, my protector/dog simply knocked the two scoundrels to the ground, he then stood guard over them, they did not dare move,  until the Police arrived, noted some details down and took the two away in the Police van.

  47. I will appeal to all my Pakistani Brothers, who afford to pay ZAKAT, please please please from next year pay your Zakat to the most starving and deserving person in Pakistan

  48. narcole1919721 says:

    Mubahila isnt for ordinary persons. should for holy persons who claim to have mustajab du3a. so to prove whos the right is by seeing whose du3a is granted as response or answer from  god. tsk tsk. 

  49. narcole1919721 says:

    I did challenge atheists to prove that god doesnt exist, they may ask anything from me, anything. 

  50. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol how can you convert if you die already. repent door i closed when death comes. 

  51. chrisheath says:

    I will enter any agreement as regards Mubahila. I claim Allah and Mohamed falsehoods. I will, under dispute of Muhabila, contest anyone to prove me wrong. I am willing to die for my assertion that Allah and Mohammed are false . Any takers among the 1.5 billion Muslim believers? If I die within 90 days, I will convert to Islam. Are you prepared to renounce your faith if I live after that time? How truly do you believe? Anyone???? If their is no response, I take it as true that amongst you all, there are no true believers in Islam.

  52. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Ramesh,
    Thanks for that link. It is quite informative.

  53. chrisheath says:

    One thing I notice- Muslims simply cannot have a reasoned debate on their religion . Reason? They are forbidden by their texts. (Koran). Therefore , they are stuck forever in a time warp. A barbaric, intolerant, and evil time warp.

  54. Ramesh says:

    EMINENT PEOPLE like M K GANDHI , Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar, Swami Vivekananda, Swami Dayananda Saraswati said on ISLAM decades ago! http://eminentpeopleonislam.blogspot.in/

  55. chuck says:

    @I-HATE-ALISATAN,
    Although what @I-HATE-ISLAM does justice to your finger pointing exercise, I will try a different take. Lets talk about Deuteronomy 21:18-21. Some key words to note here: He(the son) is a profligate and a drunkard. How could this be referring to ANY kid? Isn't it clear that it is talking about a GROWN-UP son who is profligate, a characterless person, drunkard and outrageous? Yes, it may be a touch too harsh to award capital punishment to such a person, but it trashes your claim "BIBLE SAYS IT'S OK TO KILL CHILDREN ".

    Deuteronomy 22:23-24. The key here is this phrase: "the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help". This implies mutual consent and hence the woman isn't a rape victim. Now you may say that Bible authorizes killing adulterers, but not 'rape victims'. Compare this to Islam which demands that the rape victim must bring 4 male witnesses and you know where it stands.

  56. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    I-HATE-ALISATAN
    The book of Deuteronomy is part of the Torah and allah said repeatedly in the quran that it revealed the Torah. Allah also said that it sent the prophets. Therefore, whatever violence is found in the Torah and the prophets have been validated by allah. The thing is that while the Jews abandoned violence as part of their religion thousands of years ago and the Christians have never lived by it, the muhammadans embrace it. The quran preaches hate and death to non muhammadans. Jesus taught and actually loved all. Muhammad made children orphans and slaves. Jesus loved them and rebuked His disciples for attempting to keep them from away Him. If any body were to live by those verses of violence in the Bible, then of course the Bible would also be an object of hate. Evidence of Christians not living by those verses is the number of muhammadans invading Christian countries daily for better life. We cannot say the same of muhammadan countries.

  57. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    I-HATE-ALISATAN
    I was once told that if I recited the muhammadan creed, I will receive a present from the sultan of the caliphate in my country. Simony or promise of material/monetary reward and positions are the tools used to entice people to convert to muhammadanism in my country. It was a tool Muhammad used to lure enemy commanders away from their sides. That is why you are thinking of cash reward as incentive. Such a thing does not apply here. Those of us on this site are here to serve and save humanity.

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  59. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    I-HATE-ALISATAN
    "-WE LOVE MONKEYS-".
    That is a statement of fact. Ali Sina is an apostate and that makes him an unbeliever. In muhammadanism nothing is more vile before allah than an unbeliever. That is why human life means nothing to you and a personal encounter with Ali Sina will provide the chance to prove that hate. You keep monkeys in the zoo but send unbelievers to the grave.

  60. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Chuck,
    That observation is very apt. You often see things which we sometimes overlook. Yes, with that confession, nobody can doubt that she deals enough with morons.

  61. Demsci says:

    Samanthafl. You are engaging in Tu Quoque-fallacy. The defense of guilty killers can never be that "others did it too". And Islam (parts of it) is among motives of killers (who declare this themselves, like the woolwich killer, Michael Adebolajo. It is no good to ignore motive-evidence.

  62. Demsci says:

    @Samantafl.
    //"people kill other people everyday, and it has nothing to do with religion, more because of their brain,"//

    In my opinion Islam has NOT NO INFLUENCE. And if you categorically deny that violence, oppression, against people never has anything to do with Islam and you keep denying-dismissing any bad influence, then
    We  by  the same token can deny/ dismiss any good influence of Islam.

    And then if both sides conclude that Islam has NO INFLUENCE that is either dreadful or meaningful, then we win the argument because then Islam will be seen is SUPERFLUOUS, some nice hobby, habits of people they feel good with, no more. And what would that mean for God's influence?

    Denial-Dismissal is a 2-way-street, and you can't cherry-pick only good influence and deny-dismiss bad influence of Islam. Because we can do the reverse.

  63. Demsci says:

    @Samantafl.
    And our attitude is never racist, because based on the concept: //"Hate the sin, love the sinner"//, meaning we are against Islam (parts of it) and not against Muslims. And we are against parts of Islam because parts of Islam are a danger, destructive to what we cherish, like in human rights and democracy.

    Yes, there are bad people and extremists in every religion. But you have to look from the other perspective, the influences of religions, and Islam has not NO influence and it's influence differs from and competes with, so threathens the influences of other religions and ideologies. And these fight back. Here too.

    And you may not know your own religion and it's influence well enough. In part because you love it so much, maybe because you love your beautiful husband so much, meaning you might well be very prejudiced. Just as you think that we are. Only you in favor and we against Islam (parts of it).

  64. Demsci says:

    Samanthafl:
    //"if he is as smart as the people you mentioned, at least he can show up like those people and ready for real debates."//

    There is no need to, the others are very good. And only one killer is enough, and when a killer strikes, because of Islam, you will deny he did it because of Islam, you will deny that Islam was responsible as influence and say that most Muslims are peaceful, but we will have a dead leader, and that will benefit Islam and by extension Muslims. You will be prophiting but denying accountability, as always with Islamic terror and oppressive acts. And we talk about the actions from the total of the Islamic community, because the whole world is monitored, not just the US. And in states where Islam is dominant the situation is very different from the one in the US.

    it).

  65. I-HATE-ALISATAN says:

    ALI SINA IS THE SON OF MONKEY. HE HAS MONKEY BRAIN AND MONKEY FACE. THAT'S WHY HE NEVER WANTS TO DEBATE FACE TO FACE TO ISLAMIC SCHOLARS BECAUSE HE IS TOO EMBARRASSED OF HIS MONKEY FACE. 

    DON'T WORRY, ALI SINA, WE DON'T KILL MONKEYS, WE LOVE MONKEYS.  WE KEEP MONKEYS IN THE ZOO. 

  66. I-HATE-ALISATAN says:

    ALI SINA IS A MONEY SLAVE. WORSHIP HIM THEN YOU WILL GET $5000

  67. Demsci says:

    Nafcole:
    //"You are talking about the translations and the translators. cos you only know those. all your fitnah came from those. So stop using the name of quran and prophet. keep cursing the translations. and urself who keep reading them."//

    There are 1,57 billion Muslims or so. Most of necessity use and read daily, weekly or regularly the translations. Don't you see, when you disqualify our conclusions because of relying on translations for evidence against Islam, then what is to stop us from disqualifying the majority of Muslims when they rely on translations (often same as ours) to determine what Islam teaches and wants and wants not?

    Is your position that if Muslims do something bad the translation was wrong and when they behave well and there are no problems, the translation is tip-top. But we can argue that the translation-dependent Muslims also misunderstand and miss a lot of good stuff.

    What you do is cherrypicking in these translations and behavior of Muslims, Narcole, and showing a heavy bias, prejudice.

    If the translations are no good, then so the practice of translation-reliant Muslims may well be flawed.

    If  Muslims doing bad things derived this from imperfect translation, why was there no Arabic-speaking imam to explain and correct where necessary, in the same way you assume happens to other translation-relying Islamic communities?

  68. Demsci says:

    "They use religion as excuse to gain power. Learn this in politics class"

    OK, but then Muslims also may use religion as excuse to gain power. And the question becomes: How can you discern between the genuine religious and the fake religious? It is not provable. And so this argument cannot be used against Ahmadiyahs.

  69. Demsci says:

    Gendus: //"The proof Islam is the religion of peace is also everywhere. Muslims are helping each other, giving charity, helping the poor, praying for everyone to get the salvation in the hereafter,  love parents, respecting the elders, avoiding gambling, avoiding zina, avoiding being drunk, avoiding drugs, avoiding saying bad words, avoiding everything that is bad. "//

    Gendus, you provide here proof in favor of Islam. Good for you.
    But on this site and many places people also provide proof of the downsides, bad influence of Islam.
    How do you Muslims deal with that? You say:

    – Teachings of other religions are also bad.
    – Followers of other religions also do the bad things mentioned.
    – When Muslims do bad acts this has nothing to do with Islam.
    – These bad acts of Muslims have a cultural cause, not a religious cause.
    – Muslims interpret Islam bad, do not know it well and forget a lot of good commands in Islam.

    You ignore all our evidence or you deny, dismiss everything we bring.
    So now I suppose we can react to your evidence in favor of Islam also with:

    – Teachings of other religions also cause the same good behavior, to the full extent, and more, better.
    – Followers of other religions also do such good acts, to full extent, Islam teaches nothing extra.
    – When Muslims do good acts this has nothing to do with Islam, but it has cultural (Western) causes and not religious (Islamic) causes.
    – Muslims interpret Islam in a different way than it is originally meant or don't know it very well and ignore a lot of bad commands in Islam.

    If you ignore-deny-dismiss our evidence against Islam, we can ignore-deny-dismiss your good evidence for Islam.

    We both should not do that and admit that there is AND THE BAD AND THE GOOD influence of ISLAM. Islam NOT HAS NO INFLUENCE.

  70. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    samanthafl
    Now the cat has been led out of the bag, Your bitterness is because you were once dumped. It is said that hell has no fury like a woman spurned. Your ex-husband may have abused you because that was his demented nature. He did not do so because your Catholic doctrine required that of him. The quran enjoins a man to beat his wife if he finds her to be rebellious. There is a whole world of difference between someone doing something out of his own volition and another doing it because his religion requires that of him. There lies your absurdity.

  71. I-HATE-ALISATAN says:

    I WANT TO TALK ABOUT BIBLE INSTEAD OF QURAN

    BIBLE SAYS IT'S OK TO KILL CHILDREN
    Deuteronomy 21:18-21
    18 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

    BIBLE ALSO SAYS IT'S OK TO STONE ADULTERERS AND RAPE VICTIMS TO DEATH:
    Deuteronomy 22:23-24
    23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.
    ANYONE WHO COMMITS BLASPHEMY SHOULD DIE

    Leviticus 24:16
    16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death.

    PEOPLE OF OTHER RELIGIONS SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH:
    Deuteronomy 13:5-10
    5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you. 
    6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. 9 You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
    What do you think of this verse ALI SINA? If you really hate killing then you must hate the BIBLE too. DON'T SAY THAT I MISINTERPRET THE VERSE, because I WILL THROW THE MISTAKE BACK TO YOU MISINTERPRETING QURAN.

  72. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    samanthafl,
    No he is not crazy. You are. Oklahoma was in 1995 and claimed 200 lives. How many did 9/11 claim and who did it? Since 9/11, how many jihadist terrorist plots have been bursted on American soil? Mention one day that passes without jihadists murdering people in different parts of the world and you call that 'peaceful'. Why are other religions not so blood thirsty or disregard human life? Your type will readily find justification for evil because of momentary pleasure. GET DROWNED.

  73. chuck says:

    @I-HATE-ISLAM,
    Samantha actually makes a very good point. She says "I deal enough with morons." and to corroborate, immediately follows it with  "I have a muslim husband and I am very proud of him". Can't say she is lying 🙂

  74. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    samanthafl,
    First of all the link you posted does not exist. I tried it and was directed to the CNN home page where nothing was said about the alleged attack on a Jew. Even if there was a such an attack, it was in all probability the handiwork of a common criminal but not because of who the victim was. In your attempt to polish evil, you did not show that Christianity calls for hating the Jew as muhammadanism does. You have avoided acknowledging that it is in muhammadanism that the Jews are called the descendants of apes and swine. Comparison of Jews to pigs shows the utter contempt in which muhammadanism holds the Jew. It is not in Christianity or another creed that enjoying life in the hereafter is predicated on hating and killing others now.It is in muhamadanism that such actions are based on 'divine orders'.

  75. Sakat says:

    No,no,no ,you are miserable to its conclusive end and ,need urgent counseling ,my kind advice ,approach your family physician for further directions,don't delay.

  76. Sakat says:

    But they never said 'Alla ho Akbar ' doing that.

  77. Sakat says:

    Don't play Taqqiya dear ,we know very well you people ,burden on society .

  78. Sakat says:

    Simply crap no need any reply take rest.

  79. Sakat says:

    You are dieing internally (psychologically )day by day baby ,don't try to fool others ,this is hard truth .

  80. Sakat says:

    Then why ? why you accept rape of 6 year old Ayesha by pedophile Mohammed as divine .You know what would have been his fate today ,behind the bar for rest of his life ha ha ha.

  81. Sakat says:

    samanthafl /Narcole
    Who told you Japanese are intolerable people,they are Buddhist ,they don't bother your varying of Burka ,you looks primitive animal to them they will adjust to it ,unless you thirst your primitive life upon them.Please don't get messed with excessive thinking.

  82. samanthafl says:

    Quote from ALI SIN:"In order to figure out whether Ali Sina's teachings are good or not, all we have to do is put our brain to work and imagine a society where majority of people are influenced by his teachings." 
    Soooo is it about brain-washing then??? cause my brain is totally better than yours, I have real life?? your life is about hatred and negatifity?? go get laid!!

  83. samanthafl says:

    LOL, based on what? your own thought?? my husband has a muslim friend which his family are in japan now and they are still muslims? the wife goes to the market everyday wearing burka, you are soooo idiotic

  84. samanthafl says:

    so agree with you, my husband asked me to hold my anger and calm and he's a true muslim which I am just a newbie, but I can stand these morons here, twisting facts and truth.

  85. samanthafl says:

    LOL, are you afortune teller now, from science thingy to psychic ???? I bet Islam will still exist more than 20 years. There is no usch thing as humanity?? people kill other people everyday, and it has nothing to do with religion, more because of their brain, like the shooting of elementary students here done by a psycho man. and that man wasn't even muslim, you are such an ignorant fool.

  86. samanthafl says:

    LOL, who did the Oklahoma bombing in 1995 and killed almost 200 people then??? it wasn't done by muslim and who started the world war?? you are crazy

  87. samanthafl says:

    Beating and abusing have nothing to do with religion, it purely is based on the act and nature of the man, here in the States there are sooo many cases of domestic abuse done by men or women from any religion you dumbass! so many divorce case too, I was once married to a Catholic ex-husband and he abused me for years until I decided to divorce him and met my muslim husband. So your words are absolutely absurd!!!

  88. samanthafl says:

    You are a real psycho, get a real life !!!

  89. samanthafl says:

    LMAO, if muslims are killers, then why a muslim saved a jews attacked by christian thugs on NY subway,  http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/12/subway.attack/&n
    if he is as smart as the people you mentioned, at least he can show up like those people and ready for real debates. It's so rubbish to talk based on rubbish sites. I have no interest in brain-washing as I deal enough with morons. I have a muslim husband and I am very proud of him, He is none of what you are guys talking about here, so I know the reality, Ali Sina is just a bitter person and unhappy man, He has a miserable life that's why he spread hatred and craps. I live in a positive way, that BAD people are in EVERY RACE, CULTURE, AND RELIGION…if you still don't get what I am trying to say, then it's your choice. As long as I know REAL Islam teaches peace. There are extremests in every RELIGION and some people abuse it. Here in the States, especially in my town, some churces are shut down due to not many followers anymore, only one mosque that still exists and has many followers, only ONE. so what does that tell you??? Brain-washing through media such internet is such a foolish coward game. I'm happy that I convert to Islam, I'm happy as it's my choice and we live in harmony with our friends and neighbors that are from different religion. We also have a best friend who is a christian gay that we sometimes invite for dinner at home. So you all here are acting as dumb as ****

  90. narcole1919721 says:

    Malalah isnt from my sect. Shes like a little deer who trusts that the alligator might be nice. While me as a bird and observer watched so many victims of the alligator. Why should i follow the naive deer? Or can you, as alligator try to prove that you are a vegetarian alligator? Pffft

  91. Demsci says:

    I was talking about  at least agreeing with infidels and disagreeing with Muslims by you on at least some issues. When someone asks your opinion.  Your opinion is of interest to us; we can criticize or commend you on diverse opinions.

    As a decent human being you should be with Malalah and infidels in favor of woman education and woman equality and against the Taliban, who, while being steeped in the teachings of Islam, are against woman education, in order to be able to oppress women more.

    But it is at least nice to hear that you do not seem to care about the Ummah and preferring all Muslims over all Infidels, when you say that you don't know why you should join Malalah.

    And forget about prejudices against humans, like them being wolves and dogs, because being without allies makes you weak, so being too critical in choosing allies also. Especially when times are tough.

  92. narcole1919721 says:

    So ill assume ur insult toward my prophet was subjective, namimah slave 😉

  93. narcole1919721 says:

    Evidently? Evidently what you wrote was fiction made up by your self, namimah slave.

  94. narcole1919721 says:

    You forgot the seller and the last man standing. The seller already warned. Cos he knew her so well. All people in here were wrong for underestimating the danger of namimah.

  95. narcole1919721 says:

    Its okay for me to live in peace with good infidels and good moslems. I can recognize good moslems, cos majlis ta3lim explained how to recognize them. But to differ good infidels from alligator infidels, is by seeing whether the good infidles are with alligator infidles and n support them, or not. So are you good infidel, do you support bad infidels? But why i see you still flattering bad infidels? Is it wrong for me to suspect you as alligator infidel whos asking me to seek sanctuary in your mouth? Why dont you fight bad infidels first to prove you are good?

  96. narcole1919721 says:

    The first time i saw malalah, i knew already that shes not from my sect. Why should i join her and alligator infidels?

  97. narcole1919721 says:

    A dog cant unite with a wolf to fight wolves, or to fight dogs. *rolls eyes*

  98. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    samanthafl,
    Taking into account that Sina's website has been banned in some muhammadan countries and the fact that his open apostasy will be an incentive for some lunatic to get at him, it will be irresponsible of him to neglect his personal safety. He owes himself and loved ones the duty to stay alive. Being security conscious is not cowardice. If you insist that it is, then Muhammad was a bloody coward when he fled Mecca for Medina with his tail between his legs. He was more so when, after Badr, he wore two coats of amour surrounded by a bevy of ansar body guards. What happened to the Dutch film maker is too recent to be forgotten easily. Sina is refuting BS by presenting the facts. If you have evidence that he copies and pastes please present it and the world will be grateful. Scholarship means that there are verifiable sources. Dr Berdine can post his debate on the web and one will have the opportunity to access, cross check and ask him questions without fear. It is dumb to think that debates can only be face to face in an age when the world has become a global village.

  99. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Samanthafi,
    It may well be that you are a convert from Catholicism. But Ali Sina was born a muhammadan and has a respectable knowledge of that creed. He knows it better than you. The lunacy he saw and practiced has prompted him to inform the world of the dangers of muhammadanism. A man who has sacrificed his resources, time and energy to do so is not seeking vain glory. Some of us have experienced what Sina is talking about and clearly understand where he is coming from. The internet has brought the world a lot closer so that people don't necessarily need face to face encounters. Ideas are exchanged around the globe on a per second basis. Besides, in a debate such as this, it offers protection to everyone and reaches a wider audience than a town hall gathering except where somebody wants to grandstand. A situation where muhammadans will go all out to harm those whose views differ from theirs cannot be over looked.

  100. chuck says:

    Hats off Herr Jon Mac.

  101. samanthafl says:

    LOL, you are as dumb as the coward wrote all this BS. You don't know the history of me, I was once a Catholic until I converted to Islam. The difference between being wise and smartass and also a real man and coward seems enough to me shown by Ali Sina here. He prefers to argue over internet with reference of rubbish links so he can just copy and paste his opinions, instead of meeting of meeting dr. Berdine in person and debating healthy in person. He acts cowardly and says blah blah, will offer some money, so who's being a brat here, if he's a real man then man up, go see Dr. Berdine, he invities him in a good manner and even shows himself his pictures. When he happens to see Dr. Berdine himself for real debating from brain to brain and not just copying and pasting from links, I will offer him USD100,000.00 LOLOL….To me, bad people are everywhere, regardless their skin color, race, nation and religion so if you are a man enough, the real argument is out there, face to face, not hiding behind computer, cause the mopre you talk, to me the dumber you look 

  102. Demsci says:

    Narcole: "Bad infidels are those who have such habit like the slave in previous story, and the alligator story."

    Oh,there are bound to be those! But as a minority among infidels

    Their existence cannot be an excuse to NOT ally yourself on worthy issues with good infidels against bad Muslims on worthy issues, perhaps even on supporting a truly full democratic societal system  and against any kind of dictatorial societal system (which  if you meant it, would be totally satisfactory to people like me).

  103. Demsci says:

    Narcole, this may seem wise to you. But you said earlier something wise too, and that was that a lone dog get's defeated by a pack of wolves. Lone wolves/ dogs accomplish nothing and in times of war are wiped out.

    So who do you unite with? After what you told us here, it cannot be with the whole Ummah any more, the Ummah being rife with "fasiqin, dhals and zhaliminers". You should choose allies from among the infidels on important issues and not be ridiculously paranoid and prejudiced. Else give your reasons for considering and suspecting infidels too bad to ally with.

    Should Malalah Yousoufzai have refused infidel English help? What chance would she have as a lone wolf without international help against the Taliban? And don't you care enough for women-education to let her be helped by infidels? What are your priorities? Islam first, the rest later, or woman rights first?

  104. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Truth-denier,
    Even anthropoids are beautiful to some people. I have seen pictures of people kissing bulldogs. If you classify Muhammad as handsome in spite of his roundish shape and midget stature, then the word "UGLY" has ceased to exist.

  105. Sakat says:

    samanthafi/narcole
    Why? cant u compete Ali here on net,he is smart and ,he know ,Mohammedans ugly kind of treacheries,which you are following shamelessly here .You are a school kid baby ,be a good student ,don't try to jump at adulthood(without passing required age) ,this is not natures plan either ,hahaha.

  106. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Did that 'namimah slave' post refer to me? If yes, then I will call you "CHARCOAL" because your thinking is as dark as that substance.

  107. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Evidently you do not know that Muhammad killed the Blessed Zayyanab by having her beheaded. Why did your know all sheiks not tell you that by that action Muhammad was "zhalim"? That is how they hide the truth from you.
    If Muhammad knew he was to die, why did he eat the poison? What did he aim to achieve? Such a claim is not supported by evidence because he was afraid of death and wanted to cling to life at all cost. He cupped himself. He had Aisha rob his neck with his right hand which was said to be curative. He enlisted 'Gabriel' to help him beg allah. Nothing worked. Instead of answering him allah went to other galaxies where the cries of Muhammad would not reach him. It was when he saw the handwriting on the wall that he admitted the inevitable. One needs not be a prophet before knowing that he is about to die except by accident. Muhammad was sick for three years. As for the stories on Musa, Ali and Khidir, they are too childish to merit any response.

  108. samanthafl says:

    Why don't you (ali sina) meet him in person and discuss instead of making gibberish and drama here? man up and discuss face to face…DOH!!

  109. narcole1919721 says:

    From now on, ill call you namimah slave 🙂

  110. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Befriending a muhammadan is like hiding in the mouth of an alligator. When it is hungry there will be a ready meal. Muhammand and his gang promised protection to non muhammadans on their payment of the oppressive jigzya tax but later on the victims would be expelled and their properties confiscated. Anyone who befriends or trusts a muhammadan does so to his/her peril.

  111. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol i only commented good, for infidels who dont have such bad habit in slave and alligators stories. I commented good, for good moslems and good infidels who live in peace, no namimah, no fitnah, no tricks, no cheats.

  112. narcole1919721 says:

    According to the stories before. Bad infidels are those who have such habit like the slave in previous story, and the alligator story.

  113. narcole1919721 says:

    Before explaining further about apostasy, i would like to ask your opinion about this story. There was a slave for sale in market, a man saw her and he wanted to buy her. But the seller warned him that she had namimah fitnah ghibah habit. The man underestimated it. He still decided to buy her to help his wife at home. One day, the slave wanted to do her habit again. She was with the wife. She told the wife, that her husband didnt love her anymore, and probably having affair with someone else. She didnt believe it. So the slave asked her to try to prove it by testing him, by trying to shave him with razor when hes asleep, if his respond is nice, means he still loves you. But if his respond is bad, means he doesnt love you anymore. Alright, the wife agreed to test him. But in another chance the slave talked to the husband, that his wife doesnt love him anymore, and she has an affair with another guy and she wants to kill him so that she could live together with that man in peace. The husband didnt believe it. So the slave asked him to prove it by pretending to be asleep, and see whether the wife would try to kill him with razor at night. Okay, he agreed. So at night the husband pretend asleep and the wife brought razor to shave her husband and see his reaction. Guess what, the husband thought she was trying to kill him and he took the razor and killed the wife. Then the wifes family couldnt accept that, so they killed the husband. But the husbands family couldnt accept that, so they killed the wifes family. And the rest of the wifes family members then killed the husbands family. What do you think about what should we do to the slave with such habit? 

  114. narcole1919721 says:

    What i see in befriending infidels who arent clearly good or bad, is like asking sanctuary from alligator, when being hunted by tiger. Of course alligator when seeing little cute innocent animal being hunted by tiger will ask the prey to hide in its mouth, to save from tiger 🙂

  115. sunsetsinmuddywater says:

    Please read articles in Islamwatch.

  116. Demsci says:

    But Narcole, do you also agree with Haruspetrix, about "Mr. Berdine's rabid ramblings about Christianity and the Crusaders".

    Haruspetrix points out that there is no Christian teaching that influences in a bad way any bad actions done by self-professed Christians.

    But Ali Sina almost central theme is that it indeed is  "bad", violent, oppressive influence from Quran-Hadiths-Sira (in Arabic or translations by Muslims themselves) that causes "bad" violent, oppressive behavior done by self-professed Muslims,

    who are often referring to Islam when doing the "bad" behavior, like the Woolwich killer did.

    Ali Sina also says that this is not the case with Christianity and that Islam and Christianity differ profoundly in this aspect. This is what Dr. Berdine is responding to.

    Haruspetrix seem to confirm Ali Sina and contradict Dr Berdine's defense. When Dr Berdine tries to exonerate Islam from bad influence by pointing out bad behavior of followers of other religions, engaging in a tu quoque-fallacy by doing so.

  117. Demsci says:

    Nuh Yamin,

    You see to cherry-pick appropriate verses of Quran-Hadiths-Sira and ignore inappropriate verses that do not fit your apology of Islam to Western debaters.

    No compulsion in religion? But remember forbidding Muslims to leave Islam is very much COMPULSION IN RELIGION. No other religion that I know of, has a deathpenalty for apostasy, but many Muslims think Islam has.

    Then are you or your leaders prepared to sign the "Freedom Pledge", presented to Muslims by Former Muslims? It is about declaring that Muslims are free to change their religion, just like everybody else, and that there is no deathpenalty for apostasy in Islam. So far only very few Muslims have signed this Freedom Pledge.

  118. Demsci says:

    Narcole:  "Its not in my religion".

    So again, on the issue of honour-killings you should be on the side of the vast majority of infidels and against millions of Muslims with the honour-mentality, supported by their religion, which is their version of Islam, obviously different from your version of Islam, that all too soon declares disobedient girls guilty and punishable by death in order for honour of family to be saved.

    By doing so on many occasions it is they who make a mockery of your assertion that "Islam does not permit the murder of innocent people". When so many MUSLIMS do murder girls/ women totally innocent in our eyes. It puts the burden of proof on YOU, Narcole, that it really is NOT in your version of Islam, when so many declare it IS allowed and supported by THEIR version of Islam.

    And you should not call us haters for merely reporting such attitudes and killings among Muslims.

  119. Demsci says:

    @Narcole,
    Even counterjihadists as those here, nearly all only want to defend their societal system and people against those Muslims who want to practice and impose tyrannical anti-democratic rule on them, which these Muslims claim come from Islamic teachings (which THE MUSLIMS themselves interpreted and translated). 

    Such "shariah-laws" are: a Caliphate with undemocratic leadership, Censorship on Muhammad, Quran, Islam, unequal treatment under the law of men&women, Muslims&non-Muslims, in all Nonnie Darwish pointed out 33 undemocratic shariah-laws.

    On most of these issues mentioned you, Narcole, and Husky, and many Muslims, seem to declare that you and your version of Islam puts you in the same position as many democratic infidels and in opposition to fasiqin, dhal "bad" Muslims. You seem to declare that you are innocent of the intentions and violent actions that those bad Muslims derive from their interpretation of Islam.

    Now you point out who are the bad infidels according to you that I should not be with, in order for good Muslims to be in agreement with peaceful democratic people like me?

  120. Demsci says:

    @Narcole,
    Me and my relation to other infidels, even other Darwinists? We are hopelessly divided in general and on many, many issues. We seem to have no such thing as an Ummah, our alliances shift very often.

    Many, many infidels already behave very well with Muslim; they give them equal human rights, practice the Golden Rule with them, do not use violence on them and punish those infidels who do violence to Muslims etc. On the whole vast majority of infidels in Democratic countries behave impeccably towards innocent Muslims.

  121. Demsci says:

    @Narcole, I was talking about specific issues, not a general judgments of Muslims and Infidels.

    You may be against the English infidels in general, and the Taliban are your fellow Muslims, but on the issue of women-education and Malalah Yousoufzai, you should side with the English against the Taliban.

    on the issue of death-penalty for apostasy you should be for practically all infidels, against those Muslims who violate the golden rule and propagate deathpenalty for apostasy, according to their interpretation of Islam. 

  122. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Corrigendum. The 2nd -3rd lines should read "-THE 16 POINT CONDITIONS LAID DOWN BY UMAR BIN AL-KHATTAB-". He, it was, who laid down those inhuman/humiliating conditions for the Christians of Ash Sham.

  123. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Nuh Yamin,
    If you have anything for discussion, bring it up. There are many on this site who are more than capable of dampening your curiosity. Ali Sina said he is busy on other things for now. Stop pretending as if you did not get what he said.

  124. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    In muhammadan parlance, a good 'infidel' is a dhimmi who has second class status with no defined rights. Whereas a good muhammadan follows the sunnah of Muhammad and the 16 point conditions laid down by Ali. In it, the 'good infidel' will not raise his head above that of the good muhammadan. In those days he could not ride a horse. Today he may not have to fly since that will make the dhimmi's head to be higher than that of the good muhammadan. The good infidel will worship silently in his church and will not have permission to repair or add to it even if it falls down. Yes, the good muhammadan will behave like the good Nazi did towards the Jews. COUNT ME OUT OF THAT.

  125. narcole1919721 says:

    Your talking like bad thinking infidel. do you think budha asked you to talk like this? 🙂

  126. Alia says:

    @Demsci ·
    She is right it seems because ,when her beloved prophet could not tolerate his criticism by that 105 year old poetess and order to be killed so violently ,it is the precedent set by him (holy act) how can she discard it .

  127. Sakat says:

    There are nothing like good or bad Muslims exist ,those who follow Mohammed and read Qur'an are criminals .As far as infidels are concerned there is no distinction of good and bad ,they all are good having progressive attitudes towards life.The main reason for ,why Muslims are branded as bad and not infidels were,the 'Qur'an " holy book of Muslims contained unholy things ,like killing infidels and looting their property etc few to count,however the holy books of infidels ,they may be Catholics,Hindus ,Buddhist ,Mayan's etc, teaches righteousness in core.This is the difference you have to understand.

  128. narcole1919721 says:

    Good moslems should unite with good moslems with good moslem leaders. They shouldnt be with bad moslems. Even animals avoid bad people. Cos living with zhalim people will bring bad luck. Good moslems should live in peace with good infidels. But question is, are you good infidel? Are those you mentioned before good infidels? Why i see bad infidels against bad moslems. So if you are a good infidel, you should behave, if you want to be together with good moslems. Dont be like bad infidels like haters inside and outside this forum. Are you with bad infidels? 🙂

  129. narcole1919721 says:

    Dear fitnah Author. Are you one eyed? 😉 He looked like prophet Abraham. And hes more handsome than prophet Yoseph. If Yoseph was like shining moon, he looked like sun 🙂 the best creation. 

  130. narcole1919721 says:

    *smiles* did you ever heard fitnah demsci? Its not in my religion. 🙂

  131. narcole1919721 says:

    Good 🙂

  132. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Chuck,
    Muhammadan 'scholars' have gone on to interpret the "no compulsion" verse in a way that completely contradicts the understanding of Nuh Yamin.
    In Akham al-Quran at pages 232-234, Ibn al-'Arabi is quoted to have said:"NO COMPULSION" IS A CONDEMNATION OF COMPELLING PEOPLE TO DO EVIL GENERALLY, BUT COMPELLING PEOPLE IN THE TRUTH IS A RELIGIOUS DUTY. DOES THE INFIDEL GET KILLED FOR ANYTHING EXCEPT ON THE BASIS OF HIS RELIGION? THE PROPHET SAID :'I HAVE BEEN ORDERED TO FIGHT AGAINST THE PEOPLE UNTIL THEY TESTIFY THAT NONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE WORSHIPED BUT ALLAH'. THIS HADITH IS TAKEN FROM THE WORDS OF ALLAH'. "FIGHT THEM ON UNTIL THERE IS NO MORE TUMULT AND RELIGION BECOMES THAT OF ALLAH"".
    There are others, But in spite of this, they still talk of tolerance and religious freedom.

  133. chuck says:

    @Nuh Yamin
    //Allah says in the Koran, "Laa ikroha fiddiin" which means "there is no compulsion in religion". This signifies that Islam does not force belief on you. //
    It then moves forward in 2:257 and curses the non-believers to (Yusuf Ali's translation) "They will be Companions Of the fire, to dwell therein (For ever)."
    What more there is no proof that Quran is the word of God.

    //They say that Islam prescribes warfare by quoting some verses about it but ignoring the context of when and why it was revealed. //
    The problem here is that of dichotomy. On one hand you want to limit some verses only within a certain historical context and on the other hand you will be the first to disagree that some or most verses in Quran have no validity today and best be obliterated!!

    //All mankind is from Adam and Eve.  An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab,//
    Neither Ibn Ishaq nor Tabari record this oft-quoted piece. Here is sample of racism from Shahi Hadith:
    Volume 9, Book 89, Number 329:
    Narrated Jabir bin Samura:
    I heard the Prophet saying, "There will be twelve Muslim rulers (who will rule all the Islamic world)." He then said a sentence which I did not hear. My father said, "All of them (those rulers) will be from Quraish." http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadit

  134. Haruspextrix says:

    I would never dream of commenting on anyone choosing – or rejecting – any religion on personal philosophical or emotional grounds; but when sheer logic – or basic cultural knowledge – is under fire, as it is in Mr. Berdine's rabid ramblings about Christianity and the Crusaders (!), I feel moved to raise my voice.

    You may like the principles of Christianity or not, but one thing you could never ever accuse Christianity of is hate-mongering. It's embarrassing to be pointing out the obvious, but there is not a single word in the New Testament that even condones violence or hatred, let alone instigate it.

    Did people – many people, even – do horrible things in the name of those principles? Of course. Show me a concept that humans did NOT corrupt or abuse for some agenda of their own.
    But those people, no matter how much they proclaimed or proclaim today, that they were Christians, were NOT and are NOT Christians. They were and are stupid, violent and perverse hate-mongers who spit on a noble doctrine of universal brotherhood and life in peace.

    So, the difference is that they cannot point to a single Christ's word or action to justify their wrong-doings.
    Alas, one cannot say the same about Mohammed's words and actions.

    May peace and light shine on everyone's heart.
    It's high time they did. This world cannot go on like this.

  135. Nuh Yamin says:

    Remember there is no compulsion in Islam. Allah says in the Koran, "Laa ikroha fiddiin" which means "there is no compulsion in religion". This signifies that Islam does not force belief on you. Islam is a peaceful religion which teaches peace and tolerance. In other surah Allah says, "Lakum dinukum wa liadin" which means "to you your religion, and to me my religion". This is very clear that Islam promotes tolerance. 
    But the problem today lays on some muslims or non-muslims who misinterpret the Quran, and take it out of context.  They say that Islam prescribes warfare by quoting some verses about it but ignoring the context of when and why it was revealed. Some of the verses were applicable at the time of the Prophet Muhammad and his followers when they were oppressed and banished from Mecca to Medina. They were continually oppressed and even some of the converts of non tribal people like slaves were tortured and stabbed to death. Prophet Muhammad and some of his followers had to migrate to Medina to seek for shelter. In this dangerous situation, Allah asked prophet Muhammad to not stay passive to the oppression but he and his followers had the right to defend themselves. Allah prescribe the "just war" to defend themselves. 

    And remember when they broke the "Hudaybiyyah" – the truce they made for prophet Muhammad to safely enter Mecca for pilgrimage, they lost to prophet in the war, but Prophet Muhammad did not punish them, Prophet forgive them all and they were welcome to live in mecca again if they want without forcing them to convert to Islam. 

    And remember the final sermon of the prophet, he said:
    "All mankind is from Adam and Eve.  An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over an Arab; white has no superiority over black, nor does a black have any superiority over white; [none have superiority over another] except by piety and good action.  Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood.  Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly.  Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves."

    I hope you all understand the true teaching of Islam. 

  136. Nuh Yamin says:

    I've sent  a debate invitation to Ali Sina through email but I have to read his books first.  

  137. Demsci says:

    Well, in reliance of the Traveler, on Islam, from Al Azhar university, it is written that murder is prohibited, but not prohibited is the killing of children by parents or grandparents, when these children, mostly girls, are 

    "creating mischief in the land".

    Perhaps dressing inappropriately, having inappropriate relations, apostasizing. All sorts of actions that are allowed in Western societies. So in our eyes these girls are indeed innocent, but according to many Muslims who kill girls like that, they are guilty.

    Now you see why we cannot trust Muslims who assure is Islam is against killing "innocent people". Ah, but Islam seems in favor of killing guilty people! So first explain the terms innocent and guilty in Islam more precisely.

  138. Demsci says:

    Hi, Narcole, but on many issues I think that maybe you do not want to unite with big parts of Muslims, the fasiqin and dhal, and zhalimning ones.

    – You are for the English and against the Taliban, on the issue of women-education and Malala Yousoufzai.
    – you are for Obama when he kills with "drones"  the Taliban, who killed Benazir Bhutto and many innocent Afghan and Pakistani Muslims, like a female police officer recently.
    – you are for infidels for freedom of religion and against those Muslims who support the deathpenalty for apostasy.

    With these issues and more you should prefer good infidels over bad Muslims. Because it was you who presented us with your positions on these issues, when you claimed that you followed real islam and not islam that was bad interpreted and practiced.

    Is it clear? We are with you on these issues and you are with us on them. You think we wrongly think Islam teaches bad attitudes on these issues, but if you are consistent on these issues you should side with us and against the Muslims with the bad attitudes on these issues. and admit it to us.

    Do unite with good muslims, please unite also on issues with good infidels, but do not unite with bad muslims against good infidels.

  139. Demsci says:

    This may be possible. But must be proven if it is to be exposed, because it is also possible "they" really believe in what they are doing for it's own sake. And even when exposed as fake, it will still be legal. Because then they try to gain power in a legal way. Again the ones who incite to violence against them and them who turn violent to stop them, are the ones outside the law and despicable.

  140. Demsci says:

    The law says that it is allowed to proselytise for all faiths. Violence, coercion is forbidden. Propaganda is to a large extent allowed, it is censorship that is forbidden, mostly.

    In a way "provocators"  mostly are OK. The people who react violently to "provocators" are outside the law and despised. And the people who incite protesters to react violent against "provocators" are also prosecuted and despised. Because, I repeat, people have no right NOT TO BE INSULTED, no right of protection to what the consider insults, or non-violent "provocation".

  141. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    It is dangerous to consider a muhammadan or muhammadainsm as a flower that should be given to any human being.

  142. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    That is not part of me. I have no reason to do that.

  143. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Sorry, there is a typographical error. The sentence should read : "THE FICTION I WRITE IS ALWAYS CULLED FROM MUHAMMADAN FICTION ETC".

  144. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Sakat,
    I am only a student who is learning from great brains on this website some of whom you have mentioned. I say it again, we are in this struggle to liberate the world together. Everybody is doing his/her very best.

  145. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    The 'fiction' I right is always culled from muhammadan fiction. On his obesity here are the sources:
    Ibn Ishaq: "THE APOSTLE MADE FOR A ROCK ON THE MOUNTAIN TO CLIMB IT. HE HAD BECOME HEAVY –SO WHEN HE TRIED TO GET UP HE COULD NOT DO SO. TALHA BIN UBAYDULLAH SQUATTED BENEATH HIM AND LIFTED HIM UP UNTIL HE SETTLED COMFORTABLY-".
    Abu Dawud 40:4731:"-WHEN UBAYDULLAH SAW HIM, HE SAID : "THIS MUHAMMAD OF YOURS IS A DWARF AND FAT–".
    Any argument?

  146. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    There is no difference between you and boko haram. If I am to talk to them, I can as well talk to you. It is the same thing.
    Muhammadanism exists and that is the religion of Muhammad. It is not everything you have a name for that is found in the quran. Aeroplane, guns, bicycles, cars and many more are not in the quran still you use them. In fact "madarassa" is not in the quran but I believe you must have attended one.

  147. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    There is no bigger clown than you. Islam means submission to the will of Muhammad aka allah. ISA ALMASIH? It has no relevance to this website.

  148. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Except violence on a grand scale, nothing is original in muhammadanism

  149. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    The weakness of muhammadans stems from their evil ways. It has nothing to do with numerical strength or following the infidels for those are the ones who open their(muhammadans) eyes to the changes occurring in the present world. If not, the muhammadans would still have thought that they were locked down in the 7th century.

  150. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    The only thing Muhammad and the rest knew was violence. It is the inheritance they bequeathed subsequent generations of muhammadans.

  151. Sakat says:

    As per dictionary definition Brain means : The portion of the central nervous system that is located within the skull. It functions as a primary receiver, organizer, and distributor of information for the body. It has a right half and a left half, each of which is called a hemisphere.

  152. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    narcole1919721,
    The quran itself is fiction. So if I make references to its provisions and you call them fiction, you are not making a mistake. That assessment is from solid evidence, which means that you know the truth. Since, by your findings, muhammadanism is based on the works of an illiterate fiction composer, the question is, why are you still wasting your time there?

  153. narcole1919721 says:

    *gives you glasses and hearing aid* 🙂

  154. narcole1919721 says:

    *gives you dictionary* 🙂

  155. narcole1919721 says:

    Exaggerating, and flattering? 😉

  156. narcole1919721 says:

    *gives $5 for your cheap story* 🙂

  157. narcole1919721 says:

    Tell me, what the best punishment for provocators.

  158. narcole1919721 says:

    No, its just an excuse. They use religion as excuse to gain power. Learn this in politics class,

  159. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Dear Gendus you are claiming Islam makes no difference between men and women, the rich and the poor, white or black before Allah, but their piety.   But read the sura 2:228, 2:282,4:11 & 4:34 what these sura teaching about 
    2:228 Waalmutallaqatu yatarabbasna bi-anfusihinna thalathata quroo-in wala yahillu lahunna an yaktumna ma khalaqa Allahu fee arhamihinna in kunna yu/minna biAllahi waalyawmi al-akhiri wabuAAoolatuhunna ahaqqu biraddihinna fee thalika in aradoo islahan walahunna mithlu allathee AAalayhinna bialmaAAroofi walilrrijali AAalayhinna darajatun waAllahu AAazeezun hakeemunDivorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to hide what Allah Hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. 2:282 Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo itha tadayantum bidaynin ila ajalin musamman faoktuboohu walyaktub baynakum katibun bialAAadli walaya/ba katibun an yaktuba kama AAallamahu Allahu falyaktub walyumlili allathee AAalayhi alhaqqu walyattaqi Allaha rabbahu wala yabkhas minhu shay-an fa-in kana allathee AAalayhi alhaqqu safeehan aw daAAeefan aw la yastateeAAu an yumilla huwa falyumlil waliyyuhu bialAAadli waistashhidoo shaheedayni min rijalikum fa-in lam yakoona rajulayni farajulun waimraatani mimman tardawna mina alshshuhada-i an tadilla ihdahuma fatuthakkira ihdahuma al-okhra wala ya/ba alshshuhadao itha ma duAAoo wala tas-amoo an taktuboohu sagheeran aw kabeeran ila ajalihi thalikum aqsatu AAinda Allahi waaqwamu lilshshahadati waadna alla tartaboo illa an takoona tijaratan hadiratan tudeeroonaha baynakum falaysa AAalaykum junahun alla taktubooha waashhidoo itha tabayaAAtum walayudarra katibun wala shaheedun wa-in tafAAaloo fa-innahu fusooqun bikum waittaqoo Allaha wayuAAallimukumu Allahu waAllahu bikulli shay-in AAaleemun
    O ye who believe! When ye deal with each other, in transactions involving future obligations in a fixed period of time, reduce them to writing Let a scribe write down faithfully as between the parties: let not the scribe refuse to write: as Allah Has taught him, so let him write. Let him who incurs the liability dictate, but let him fear His Lord Allah, and not diminish aught of what he owes. If they party liable is mentally deficient, or weak, or unable Himself to dictate, Let his guardian dictate faithfully, and get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her. The witnesses should not refuse when they are called on (For evidence). Disdain not to reduce to writing (your contract) for a future period, whether it be small or big: it is juster in the sight of Allah, More suitable as evidence, and more convenient to prevent doubts among yourselves but if it be a transaction which ye carry out on the spot among yourselves, there is no blame on you if ye reduce it not to writing. But take witness whenever ye make a commercial contract; and let neither scribe nor witness suffer harm. If ye do (such harm), it would be wickedness in you. So fear Allah; For it is Allah that teaches you. And Allah is well acquainted with all things. 

  160. Sakat says:

    I-HATE-ISALM
    I had never seen a person like you, (of course the guy Chuck is there ) who could peel this Islam to its thin bottom layer with such clinical precision,hats up!!!!

  161. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Dear Kutu,
    you told us "tolol" Means Very Clever  or other I don't know Indonesian Language but do you know the meaning of "Kutu" in India. We use this word for dog to call him in rural (Hindi speaking) areas when we feed them, we call like "Aao atu kutu……. kutu………. kutu…… kut…kut……. kut." Means "O my lovely dog…lovely dog……. lovely dog…. come hopping and Jumping. So don't write such word  because world is big and there are lots of language and lots of word who have contains good meaning in a language but in another language it's meaning has changed or might be opposite (Antonyms).
    I'm heartily sorry I use above para, but due to you because you using personal abusing word if you have the capacity. I've given you above Quranic verse you give the proof that is wrong and it is not in Quran but don't abuse anyone. You and your friend will say you also abusing our prophet, we not abusing him he is the cause because he accept I'm prophet but there were no signs in him and Quran have that prove him a prophet and Quran is divine scripture. If you have provide/Share sura ayath and I'll also give the answer from Quran. 

  162. Sakat says:

    Poor lady i can laugh at your innocence and,sympathetic as well.

  163. Sakat says:

    Aqal means knowledge ,i hope so ,but not 'brain'

  164. chuck says:

    @narcole1919721
    //Killing innocent unbelievers is a problem. //
    In Islam the unbeliever is never innocent.

  165. Demsci says:

    Narcole: //"And you are asking again how to decide which is dhal sect and which good islam sect. I did tell that prophet said, all 73 sects will claim as the right sect. But prophet left Original Quran and His Sunnah to hold on. Whoever hold on those thightly, they wont get misguided."//

    How about separation of state and church? Where do you stand on this issue?

    We believe in Soviet Union and such communist states the state interfered too much in the religions, be it Christianity or Islam, and the beliefs of it's people. They forbade people to practice religion and oppressed them in this way.

    But the opposite was often also true; That Christianity or Islam's representatives force their religion on all citizens, highly favoring it, oppressing followers of other religions, censoring and punishing them. In Christian countries this largely stopped in 1648, with the peace of Westphalia. But in Islamic countries, we say, in part it continues till this day.

    So had you lived in the former Soviet Union as a Muslim, YOU and your co-religionists would have been censored, oppressed, punished. Islamic practices there were forbidden, discouraged, punished. 

    You would not have liked it. Now comes the following question: Do you believe in the Golden Rule;
    – That which you do not wish that others do unto you, also do not do this yourself to others. Or;
    -That which you want others to do to you, do that also to others?
    Or do you not believe in and practice the Golden Rule? We here all do, I daresay.

    I learnt that the Golden Rule came from the Jew Hillel, first century BC, and it is also a big rule of Jesus and in Christianity. But it may be older and put forward by Greek and Roman philosophers.

    But Ali Sina argues that Muslims do NOT practice the Golden Rule towards non-Muslims, and other religions. Only they practice it with other Muslims. So the treatment of minorities in Islamic countries often is abominable and plenty of proof for that is shown here and by Robert Spencer.

    How do you comment on that?

  166. sunsetsinmuddywater says:

    @narcole1919721
    //I accidentally watched on tv today//

    Taqiyyah.

    Once again I repeat cause that was not a proper answer

    Do you think that these guys translated in English sitting all alone?
    Don't you think that it might have been checked and rechecked by some Mullahs before being published ?
    Don't you think that the translations would have been banned by now if it were not properly translated ?

  167. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    Guest,
    That is the short form of KUTURU. It still means leper.

  168. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    narcole1919721,
    That is pure nonsense.

  169. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Boko haram are the epitome of good muhammadans. They have vowed that enmity will forever exist between them and non muhammadans. That is taken from sura 60:4.

  170. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    narcole1919721
    Thumps up for Muhammad the obese.

  171. narcole1919721 says:

    Give the good flowers. throw the thorns.

  172. narcole1919721 says:

    You live with boku haram, not mukmins.

  173. narcole1919721 says:

    Hater, you should join jk rowling in writing fiction. Your good at it. *two thumbs up*

  174. narcole1919721 says:

    Muhammadan term, again. Tsk tsk. ill start ignoring you, cos you dont understand words. I did tell to stop labelling muhammadan. cos theres no such term in original quran. You should talk to boku haram instead, not us. yalla *clap-clap*

  175. narcole1919721 says:

    Yeah yeah keep quoting unoriginal stuff

  176. narcole1919721 says:

    You see stars are small in your eyes. Actually stars are big. That way al ghazali stopped believing from eyes. in ancient time, people couldnt see germs, if u were born at that time, you wouldnt believe germs exist. you should admit you are just a human, who cant fight death, who cant breathe without air, who cant live without food or without going to toilet. What are you being cocky about

  177. narcole1919721 says:

    I see you and demsci have something in common. habit in dhal paraphrasing.

  178. narcole1919721 says:

    Sina doesnt know hadith better than real muslims. cos he wasnt real muslim. He was in dhal sect with dhal references.

  179. narcole1919721 says:

    Killing innocent unbelievers is a problem. Original Quran prohibits that. and dont relate moslems government with religion. politics and religion are different.

  180. narcole1919721 says:

    Yes, muslims are weak when they dont unite. Muslims are weak when they follow infidels. muslims are weak when the leaders are weak. 

  181. narcole1919721 says:

    Only infidels who think that prophet and abu bakar did violence. mukmins dont. Cos of their original sources prove that wrong. keep making fitnah from dajjal translations.

  182. narcole1919721 says:

    You are talking about the translations and the translators. cos you only know those. all your fitnah came from those. So stop using the name of quran and prophet. keep cursing the translations. and urself who keep reading them.

  183. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol demsci. Are you aware of what ur saying? You mean, terrorist sect also has a right to do what they believe, and you should let them speak, alive, and hurt others include you, and shouldnt censor them? What a democracy you have. You give democracy toward zhalim people too now eh? And when they create chaos, and hurt you, you'll say, its democracy. They have a right to do what they want? Ahmadiyah is dhal and zalim. Good moslems and good infidels should stop their dhal thoughts. And you are asking again how to decide which is dhal sect and which good islam sect. I did tell that prophet said, all 73 sects will claim as the right sect. But prophet left Original Quran and His Sunnah to hold on. Whoever hold on those thightly, they wont get misguided. 

  184. narcole1919721 says:

    Guest…what are you doing here

  185. Guest says:

    And what does KUTU mean?

  186. narcole1919721 says:

    You heard about aqal already *rolls eyes*

  187. narcole1919721 says:

    I was not joking before. Now ur joking. See that ur a clown? Btw what does ISALM mean? ISA ALMASIH?

  188. narcole1919721 says:

    I was talking about nafsu muthma2innah. If your people or ur religion dont have exact definition of nafsu muthma2innah term, then u should seek real definition from arabic kitab. I cant explain further if you dont understand this first.

  189. chuck says:

    @Husky33
    //AL-Qur'an is the word of God.. …nd ever is Allah , of all things, Knowing. "Al-Ahzab:40")//
    In other words Quran says that it is the word of Allah. Quran says that Muhammad is the final prophet. And Muhammad says that Quran is revealed to him by Allah.
    This is circular reasoning.

    //we've been taught to not bring violence to people.. if you can't do that, you can't be part of us.//
    But thats what Muhammad, Abu Bakr and all his followers did!! Muhammad was part of 80 odd Ghazwas!! So are you saying Abu Bakr and Muhammad were not muslims?

    //this is a misguiding ideology that could destroy the real teaching of Islam//
    How? Oh I see, is it because Mirza Ahmad openly argued against the use of military Jihad? What are the other real teachings of Islam that you emphatically say Ahamadiya can destroy? Please list them down and we can go through each of them (one I have already mentioned).

    //ahmadiyah is an issue we cannot ignore, because the impact will be in our people, the impact will damage Muslims.//
    If it can damage Muslims then Islam must be weak before it. And if Islam is 'true' as you claim, then what fear does it have. In fact isn't it good for Islam itself that people with weaker beliefs leave it?

  190. chuck says:

    @Husky33,
    //i cannot see you right now.. so i guess you are a machine.//
    What is really weird is that you think in English 'see' only means seeing with eyes. When you 'see the point in discussion' it doesn't mean that you actually see with your eyes some specific point drawn on a board (but then may be you do). http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/see?s=t

  191. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    narcole1919721,
    You don't even have elementary knowledge of the muhammadanism you profess.

  192. Demsci says:

    //"those countries dont have nafsu muthma2innah. "//

    You mean they are not peaceful in heart? Since world war II (68 years ago) most of those countries have not fought any war against other nations.

    Anyway; I hope you do not find ALL countries NOT up to your standards. I hope you do not compare existing countries, with ideal countries, only existing in theory? I say, only compare existing countries with each other and try to determine which ones perform better and which ones worse. On sound criteria.

  193. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    Husky33,
    Muhammad could only have been the 'prophet' of a god as fiendish as allah. He had nothing to do with the true GOD. The proof of this was unquestionably at Khayyabar when the Blessed Zayyanab admitted that she poisoned Muhammad's food because, if he were a prophet, he would have known and would not have eaten the food. His reply was:"ALLAH WILL NOT GIVE YOU THE POWER TO DO THAT". But allah disappointed him by letting him die of the effect of that poisoning. This is only one proof to show that his claims were all false. There are myriads more.

  194. Demsci says:

    No, I did not really mean that you were ignorant, but I meant the compliment for your witty remark.

    Now, about my poison; OK, there are bushes who have both roses and thorns. I think we both are like those bushes.

  195. Sakat says:

    I read Celestine Prophesy first part , i enjoyed it reading . I suggest you another book "Mutants Massage down Under",a classic , read it ,don't forget to read the book i have mentioned above .

  196. Sakat says:

    @Demsci ·
    Demsi i love you man ,your post make me cry, a stubborn.Long back i read a book and it changed my life all together .And i wish you have to read that book .It is not available on PDF form ,i believe so ,because of its demand but, i can suggest you earnestly to read it .I read it thousand time approximately ,i want you to read it and ,the name of that book is ,"Living with the Himalayan Masters -by Swami Rama ,i request you again to read it ,this much i can say.

  197. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    Husky33,
    No insult is greater than my being invited to be part of a deceit called muhammadanism. God wants HIS children to be transparent. Muhamadanism lacks that attribute. IT CANNOT BE FOR ME.
    There is a difference between 'inability' and 'unwillingness'. That your grandpa did not kill does not mean that he would not have done so if he had the opportunity. Every muhammadan is a potential killer because the quran says so and the hadiths and sira provide the precedence. Remember that it was during a 'sacred' month like this when the pagans always had a truce that Muhammad committed sacrilege by killing the Quraish. When told the ramifications of his crime he faked a 'revelation' justifying it on the ground that "PERSECUTION WAS WORSE THAN SLAUGHTER".

  198. Sakat says:

    My simple question to you is ,what do you mean by rule ,the state pass many rules to rule its subjects .But your religions speaks spiritual rules and i want thorough explanation ..Let me clarify here what my religion /belief /or Messiah stress upon and to find certain preliminary enquirers like ,'Who are you?, from where you come from ? and ,why are you here? and,where will you go hereafter ?. They don't dictate me but, make my mind work on that, to find ultimate answer of my own ,that is inquiry and not blind belief like yours ,on that pedophile,which is most disgusting.

  199. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    Husky33,
    But your 'prophet', who was as skinny as a broomstick when he started because of penury, became obese when he had acquired so much from armed robbery. He had eaten so excessively that he became rotund and at Uhud he could not climb a rock. He had to be helped to do so.The man who helped push him on the rock remarked to one of Muhammad's followers that :"THIS YOUR MUHAMMAD IS SHORT AND OBESE". As proof of his excessive eating, Muhammad would start his fasting late and break early claiming that such was the prerogative of "prophets". In further proof, at Khayyaba, when the Blessed Zayyanab inquired what part of meat Muhammad liked, she was told the leg of a ram or goat. She selected that portion for him and poisoned it. Muhammad died because of his gluttony. If the instruction he gave on feeding was meant to be useful, he would have kept it himself. But like the hypocrite that he was, he gave one rule to his followers, who were lesser beings, while a different one applied to him. Only an ossified brain will follow such a contemptible character.

  200. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    Sakat,
    They will never admit that loss because it is quite a blow to them. The father went as far as imposing a fatwa of death on the young man.

  201. narcole1919721 says:

    Is that a compliment, or an insult? you have poison in your sweet tounge. i know your modus.

  202. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    Kutu,
    Do you know what KUTURU means in one of the languages in my country? :LEPER.

  203. narcole1919721 says:

    I did tell you have a habit in dhal way when paraphrasing.  peaceful in heart, in arabic nafsu muthma2innah. those countries dont have nafsu muthma2innah. See why cant rely on translation from translations. did you ever try a game, you whisper words to ur friend, and he then whispers the words to other friend, and the other friend whisper to another one and so on. see the result. will the last guys words the same? its even still in same language. 

  204. narcole1919721 says:

    You are like a kid who keeps crying for candies or chocolate. But ur mommy keeps saying no ull get toothache.

  205. Sakat says:

    What is the meaning of 'brain' in Arabic /or in for ,Mad Mohammed's terminology , can you elaborate ,i am happy to here it.

  206. Husky33 says:

    hahaahha im just trying to point out what u said.. maybe you need counseling.. because you can't see my brain and choose to not believe that there is a brain inside everyone's head..

  207. Sakat says:

    Demsci
    I really love this post man .I don't want to elaborate it now ,why? ,but in future .

  208. Sakat says:

    Husky33, Are you lunatic/mad something ,i guess so ,please go for counseling baby.

  209. Demsci says:

    Well, can I translate that to happiness? Solely IN THIS LIFE (if mukmins (???) DON't care about hell or heaven). The 10 happiest countries, according to UN-statistics last year were Australia, America, Canada, UK, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Holland, Switzerland. All of them non-Muslim Democratic, free countries. With long average lifespans.

    And what could be more important than happiness? For oneself and for one's surrounding? Is peace in their hearts when feeling GOD better than that? To whom anyway? God or the humans?

  210. Sakat says:

    Then you have to define the concept of 'God' as according to your faith/beliefs OK. Proceed…..

  211. Husky33 says:

    LOL.. TOLOL HAHAHAHAHHA apa banget..

  212. Sakat says:

    No sorry ,i am aware of this modern world and the importance of time and ,moreover i have little time to spare here,i want it to be fruitful.

  213. Husky33 says:

    AL-Qur'an is the word of God.. (Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian. "Al-Hijr:9").. Muhammad was a prophet (And We have not sent you except comprehensively to mankind as a bringer of good tidings and a warner. But most of the people do not know. "Saba:28) (Say, [O Muhammad], "O mankind, indeed I am the Messenger of Allah to you all, [from Him] to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth. There is no deity except Him; He gives life and causes death." So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the unlettered prophet, who believes in Allah and His words, and follow him that you may be guided. "Al-A'raf:158) .. Muhammad is the final and last Prophet (Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men, but [he is] the Messenger of Allah and last of the prophets. And ever is Allah , of all things, Knowing. "Al-Ahzab:40")

    of course.. we've been taught to not bring violence to people.. if you can't do that, you can't be part of us. 

    you are talking about my religion.. look it's very different form of a case.. this is a misguiding ideology that could destroy the real teaching of Islam, ahmadiyah is an issue we cannot ignore, because the impact will be in our people, the impact will damage Muslims. they need to stop doing it, so there will be no more people got misguided by it. 

  214. Sakat says:

    I-HATE-ISALM
    Mate, see her response after my above ignition ,that is a confirmation of my above claims .I wish you should have some psychology lessons to understand these people upside down ha ha ha.

  215. Sakat says:

    OK dude ,some time accidents occurs without the fault from both the parties ,don't take it to your heart , i apologize on both behalf ,now smile.

  216. Demsci says:

    These other Muslims are ignorants like you.

    And ignorants like you.

    There; I made use of your joke, which you so wittingly used against I-Hate-Islam.

    but with my compliments for that joke and your sense of humor.

  217. narcole1919721 says:

    Demsci, islam isnt about quoting links. and mukmins dont care about hell or heaven. what important is, peace in their hearts when feeling god.

  218. Sakat says:

    Have you seen the fate of a fut-boll in the hands of player in match ,may be ,exactly you are the fut-boll in the hands of we players now ha ha ha.

  219. narcole1919721 says:

    Thanks. barakallah 🙂 

  220. Husky33 says:

    i cannot see you right now.. so i guess you are a machine.. Hmm… it's weird thinking. 

    i cannot see my brain.. i dont believe i have one.. weirder.. 😀

  221. Demsci says:

    Husky33, this reminds me of Pascal's Wager. Have you heard of it? Here is a link which explains and speaks about it. http://www.update.uu.se/~fbendz/nogod/pascal.htm

    I suppose it is possible that a Muslim(a) argues that earthly life is better being a Muslim than not being a Muslim. But I think on the whole life is better and can be better used being something other than Muslim (although there are also worse ways of spending one's life).

    But mostly the benefits of Islam when it is true and a person believes in it lie in the afterlife. Under the link I gave you this is what is being said about a God that sends people to hell or heaven based on their beliefs:

    //"Now if there is a god, and he is just, he would not send kind atheists to hell only because they can't believe in him. A just god judges people for who they are, not for what their minds tell them is likely to be true or not. Therefore a just god would still save atheists if they were good people.
    Like someone once said, "I would love to go to hell and meet people such as Einstein, Darwin, Russell and Voltaire." Is it really likely that these people were sent to hell, only because their great minds didn't find any evidence of the Christian god? In that case the word "just" is not applicable to god, and such a god is not even worth worshipping. To worship such a god would be like worshiping your worst enemy because you were afraid of his revenge if you didn't submit to his power."

  222. Husky33 says:

    i waste my time to talk to you.. it's sad you can't do the same.. i wish you can xD

  223. Sakat says:

    The thing which i cant see ,i cant believe.On the road a mad man do many acrobatics and gestures in vacuum ,do you mean to say he is talking to Allah and i should believe him .I am a sane i know he is weirdo ,i just ignore him .So I, Ali Sina and rest here ignore Mohammed and his follower you ,just relax. Cultivate some sophistication's baby.

  224. narcole1919721 says:

    There are chuck, demsci, islam hater, sakat, and aryan hindu. but nizam was a moslem. he got out of islam  cos he was disapponted in dhal moslems. He thought all moslems are like those he met and saw. he thought it was real islam who taught those dhallin. in fact those dhallin against real islam but still label themselves as moslems. this happened to ali sina too. they are in confusion. While persons above follow him blindly. when he even still in confusion and already told that he maybe wrong. And he did ask others to explain, to guide him. but it seems he only loves daring prominent scholars, which not guarantee their real 3lm in religion. its just phd.

  225. chuck says:

    @Husky33,
    //but since the teachings and whatever they believe in is not true and misguiding, then they shouldn't continue what they're doing//
    But isn't the same true for Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity too as per you?
    Second I believe Islam is not true and misguiding. Then shouldn't I tell that to the world? Isn't thats what Ali Sina is doing by having created this site?

    //what cause the riot is when we know that there is something wrong with ahmadiyah, and we feel that someone needs to take care of them//
    And this taking care involves killing people and burning their huts?

    //and if they know about Islam, then they shouldn't make any riot at all.//
    But didn't Muhammad himself prescribed rioting and warring to hold the flag of, what you call truth, afloat? These rioters are just following examples of the 80 odd ghazwas that Muhammad led!!

  226. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol ur a girl too…funny. girls teaching old guys islam..ppfft yeah i understand what u mean. if only i was idle i would dedicate jihad here, but i have to do jihad in real life too. now since ur here, i can leave them awhile and focus more in life. somehow i think i cant leave them in darkness alone. I feel its a duty to show them light. but if they close their eyes and shut their ears what can i say. 

  227. Kutu says:

    I can see there are only 3 followers of Ali sina, :P,
    Sakat,
    I-HATE-ISLAM
    Nizamuddin

    They three are the most "tolol" people in the world. Do you know what "tolol" mean? :p
    tolol means "very clever" 😛

    (ONLY THREE FOLLOWERS??) 

  228. Husky33 says:

    yes.. i agree.. but they should know that they have any chances in the world to be Islam all over again.. i can't be mean to them.. WE cannot be mean to them, because Allah said so and we should tell them about it.. im just a regular girl who likes to befriend many people.. if they dont want to be in Islam, it's alright.. i won't force them.. just please don't give false accusations, because it is not true.. 

    they might say that my non-moslem friends are idiot for loving me as a friend.. i never force them to embrace Islam.. because they are free to choose whatever they believe is good.. Lakum diinukum waliadiin.. 

    Umar Bin Khattab was scary as ever, especially to our Prophet, his actions in the past might makes us think that he won't be a Moslem.. but in the end, he became A true Moslem.. and im his big fan hahahaha xD

  229. Husky33 says:

    hahaha… let's take a recess.. just not thinking about all of this stuff.. i just want to know..

    what if.. you are wrong? and im right.. what if Allah SWT is our One true God and Muhammad SAW is his messenger and not awful like you always mentioned? 

    please answer this.. i just want to know your answer.. since you can be wrong or right, and i also can be wrong or RIGHT.. 😀

  230. Husky33 says:

    i am nobody chuck.. im just a 22 year old girl with nothing to lose 😀

    look.. maybe Ahmadiyah is a sect.. but since the teachings and whatever they believe in is not true and misguiding, then they shouldn't continue what they're doing… so the real teaching of Islam will be stay pure just like what my God has created and deliver it to His creatures.

    well the fact is, what cause the riot is when we know that there is something wrong with ahmadiyah, and we feel that someone needs to take care of them.. but since not all human (moslem or not) in this world have the ability to deal something calmly, they make riots, its just another human psychology thing.. and if they know about Islam, then they shouldn't make any riot at all..

    well.. nice to know that 🙂

  231. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol lucky you husky, Alhamdulillah 🙂 see how funny these people with their accusations. cant stop making me laugh. But im tired now, need rest. i guess ill visit this site every 2 days to answer questions who have respect inside. wasting time for haters is useless, but i dont mind sparing time for truth seekers though, and free them from confusion. if u wanna play with jokers for fun its okay 🙂 

  232. Husky33 says:

    HA..HA.. you dont have any guts to do it? to seek the truth, people travel around the world.. how can you be so sure that you are right while you dont have any interest in seeking the truths?

  233. Husky33 says:

    HAHAHAH I HOPE I CAN DO THAT EXCESSIVE EATING.. sadly my Prophet said that we should start eating before we hungry and stop before we got full… many muslimah got a nice body.. its because our Prophet's diet tips.. 

    horrible to contemplate.. you're saying this like no other men convert to Islam these days.. they find peace and happiness with Islam.. so you think they are lying? 

    im sane (if im not, my neighbor would already put me in an asylum or somethin') and i can accept Islam wholeheartedly.. so does the rest of true Moslems, who rather pray 5 times a day, sodaqoh, read Al-Qur'an, doing Hajj, fasting on ramadhan.. rather than what you say killing, bla bla bla..

  234. Husky33 says:

    hwahahahahaahha why do you guys keep saying harsh things to us.. i never did like that to all of u seriously.. i want you to realize that you guys still have a chance to be a good moslem, and it's fun, nothing to do with killings or horrible things that u ppl mentioned :D.. my grandpa is a good moslem, and he never kill anyone in his life, God love him for all i know, since he is very loved by people around him and his life was soo smooth, it's like God has given him may graces.. embrace it and i promise you guys will live happily ever after ^_^

  235. Husky33 says:

    that is exactly what u are hahahah.. not me.. i can believe that A is absolute.. A is art.. A is Alchemist and etc.. my head can receive anything like this (or even beyond that) very easy.. but you, my friend.. is the one that cannot hold what Allah SWT has ordering you to do.. to bow to Him.. just because you can't see Him, then you can't do that hahaha, even refuse to do so.. also making demands to Moslems to show the truth etc.. who is the one that cannot understand like a child?

     i never saw Him, but i know He is exist, and i know He love all of us.

    cheers xoxo

  236. Husky33 says:

    multiple personality of a single individual.. xD does that make you tired of talking to me?

  237. i am an atheist and expressing sorrow at this unjust ban. what do u mean ''u n your gangs''?

  238. Sakat says:

    I-HATE-ISALM
    Even i bet see is above 35 year to 40 year old frustrated divorcee,take note of this.

  239. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    Husky33,
    You have not explained how long ago is your 'past'. For even right now, Christians are being hunted and haunted by Muhammadans in keeping with Tabari's belief that "killing unbelievers is no problem to us". Horrendous stories come out of Aceh and throughout Indonesia.
    The Portugese, Japanese, Dutchmen, etc 'invaded' you long ago. But they never singled you out for extermination. Compare that to your presence in East Timor where 1/3 of the population was wiped out in 25 years. This gave an annual massacre of 10,000 people. Even Adam Malik, your foreign minister at the time of the invasion, boasted to the Sydney Times that in the first 2 years as many as 80,000 people were killed. That was your level of "tolerance" towards others whose independence was stolen from them.
    If people were to emulate the muhammadans and cause riots because of how they spite other religions, none of them will exist outside his/her enclave
    Your picture of a tolerant and peaceful muhammadan is pure fiction which should not enter even comic books for children.

  240. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    Husky33,
    On this 'Muhammad was the last prophet' thing, muhammadans contradict themselves and punish those who openly uphold the view that there were 'prophets' after Muhammad. I have said before that a prophet is a medium God communicates with man. The muhammadans believe in what they call 'wahhy' which exists in three forms 1) God reveals through dreams, 2)God speaks through angels and some spirits, and 3) God speaks directly to the individual. For as long as God continues to communicate with man through another man, there is no end to prophethood. If my understanding of 'wahhy' is correct, as I believe it is, then accusing later muhammadan prophets of falsehood or apostasy is criminal. They are authentic muhammadan prophets. Muhammad thought he would be the only cock to crow not knowing that by instituting 'wahhy' he was actually undermining his credibility in the claim that he was the last "prophet".

  241. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    Husky,
    "-I WONDER WHAT CHRISTIANS DO IF THEY FOUND WRONG OR TWISTED VERSION OF THE REAL TEACHING AND IDEOLOGY".
    Answer: the Christian does nothing to such an apostate to harm him. Rather, the Christian prays for his lost brother/sister to see the light again. God says that the death of a sinner does not please HIM.
    The muhammadan has perverted the Christian core belief. What has been done to the muhammadan. NOTHING. He is allowed to preach what he likes without molestation. Such a thing is unheard of from the muhammadans. If you are in doubt, let me stand at a street corner anywhere in Aceh province and proclaim that Muhammad was a conman, pedophile, warmonger etc and see what the reaction will be. Mere changing of one's 'deen', which he is entitled to, incurs the death penalty. By denying the intolerant nature of muhammadanism, you are spreading falsehood.

  242. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    Husky, So you are really 'narcole1919721'? Why the disguise? Hiding your identity means that your are doing it for a purpose which cannot be anything other than mischief. The kalashnikov is the weapon of preference for the jihadists. You may still be in training now, that is why you do not yet know how to handle it. Reliance on the quran actually makes you dangerous because it is full of hate and intolerance. Even among you, the level of tolerance depends on the other fellow belonging to the same pond as yourself. This you have demonstrated on your position on the Ahmadiyya whom you accuse of spreading falsehood. The analogy was a student reporting a mate to the principal because of the false rumor the mate peddled. The problem is that the proverbial student takes the action himself to silence his "erring" mate. Yet you have not said what false rumor they are guilty of spreading. How tolerant are you of the shiites who come in handily for your venom?

  243. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    Sakat,
    You may be correct but in one of her replies to Chuck, who said that she was a 20 something living in the West, she answered that he was partially correct. There was no specific denial. She could have been putting taqiyya into practice.

  244. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    narcole1919721,
    If everything is weird, it is because what you stand for is weird. There are no activities ramadhan apart from excessive eating which cause prices of foodstuff in our markets here to skyrocket. Such is the product of muhammadan piety. What you call hidayah is rejected by those hearts it knocks on because it is too horrible to contemplate. Any information coming from muhammadanism is poisonous and no sane person should ingest what is harmful to his system.

  245. narcole1919721 says:

    Im busy with activities in ramadhan here, but still spare time to answer their questions. If its not me who answer, then who else? but im facing troubles in replying. My keyboard not functioning properly,  and my phone suddenly has been working weird after commenting this site, and i received weird mail too. and after typing answers, the site often rejects to post, and another weird thing, i often lose signal. Too often. How sly, but i dont care. Ill keep doing jihad. Prophets faced worse obtacles in da3wah. i just have to balance between here and real life.  i really pitty them sincerely from my heart. cos hidayah is very precious, and they still havent found it. In fact everyday hidayah knocks their hearts, but their hearts are dark stained with heart diseases which unable to reflect the light. Their mind should be fixed first. they kept absorbing negative informations/fitnah that shaping their mind.

  246. chuck says:

    @Husky33,
    //I cant prove them? Its all over the world hahaha, which one that i cant prove//
    You can't prove: 1. Quran is the verbatim word of God, without resorting to circular reasoning.
    2. Muhammad was a prophet. 3. He is the last and final prophet given that Allah is the most benevolent being out there. 
    The list is practically endless.

    //IF you hear any news regarding intolerance towards religions like Hindu, Christians, Catholics, or Buddha that has been done by a muslim, then he is not a muslim// http://www.cbn.com/tv/1387064484001
    Thats a very clever definition of 'muslim'. If you are bad you aren't muslim :-).

    //Okay if you dont like my idea helping you to stop people from spreading the false thing about you, then i'll leave you alone with that//
    Similarly the Ahamadiya don't like being policed for their beliefs and you should leave them alone, as well as the villagers who you think are falling for them.

  247. Sakat says:

    Don't waste your valuable time here baby ,defending that pedophile child rapist Mohammed .He had already lived his life on looting others property,wife and land.Earn some wealth with hard work otherwise at the end , you may even not having chance even to repent your good days spending on no profit ventures .He was the ugliest incest the humanity has faced in its long history. Still hounds.

  248. chuck says:

    @Husky33,
    //But ahmadiyah IS NOT Islam's sect or division..//
    You are nobody, absolutely NOBODY, to say that Ahamadiya aren't muslim as long as the Ahamadiya's   themselves believe so. And if they perform dawa then it is no different from Sunni or Shia dawa. You shouldn't try to police them to counter them. That amounts to religious intolerance and that is what causes riots, the kind of which are reported in that link.

    //but let's have a good debate so we know who is right or wrong//
    Yeah, sure. 

  249. Sakat says:

    @ I- HATE-ISALM
    She is not living in West ,she is living in third world country Indonesia ,full of dirty Muslims. She is illiterate Muslima ,she don't know rest of the world .Her day begins with azan and ends up so ,waste oxygen ha haha.

  250. Sakat says:

    Narcole /Guest /kutu and now Husky all are multiple personality of a single individual baby .Don't use your Taqquiya too much ,it will harm your health to the extent of non-recovery hahaha.

  251. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    narcole1919721,
    "-I DID TELL THEM MEDIA IS PART OF FITNAH DAJJAL. ITS EDITABLE-".
    Is that why there are so many muhammadan cable tv stations spewing nothing but garbage? I live with muhammadans and there is nothing peaceful about them. You live in the west and do not have an idea what obtains in the muhammadan countries especially as it affects the minorities. I hope you are not misconstruing the western country of you refuge as an example of your " peaceful moslem country".If the countries of these dhallin "islamic countries" do not know muhammadanism well, is it you, living far removed from where the real thing is practiced, who has a better idea? As all the muhammadan countries behave in like fashion, then it means that they are all wrong and there is no true muhammadanism or they are right and what they exhibit is the real stuff.

  252. Sakat says:

    A kindergarten entrant feels all are illiterates ,because he was taught 'A' for apple by his/her teacher but, if some body say 'A' for Absolute it would simply go above his head and ,then he will say the professor is illiterate because he say' 'A' means absolute which is a new term (which is beyond the scope of that kids mind )for that kid .It is not your fault some times it happens hahaha.

  253. Sakat says:

    Watching TV gives better information then ,those illiterate Sheiks ,you go after them ,if they think they have cart load of stuffs about Islam , let them face here Ali on net .Many such Sheiks appeared all these years and disappeared without any trace ,i sympathies with them .For us Ali is Super human and not your skull cap Mufti's and Sheiks ,they only know how to kill others with their weapon of fatwa.Just go and listen the speech of Malala Yousfjai delivered other day in UN.She is far more intelligent and mature then you.

  254. Sakat says:

    I also tried to learn from my 'own mind' , the term 'Haquiqat" which means 'the absolute' as per your Quran ,but my subsequent post querying ,'How many dimension the absolute is having " ,you haven't answerd till,why?

  255. Sakat says:

    What you feel is an answer and presuming it to be final one has got no meaning for us here ,you said Quran can be understood by reading it in Arabic only .Then why the son of Hamas who has memorized and understood Quran in Arab(his mother tongue is Arab he is better in Arabic then you) has said it is crap and left it .There is video interview baby you cant just avoid the plain truth with your Taqquiya .My questions are specific and you have to answer it specifically ,don't waste our time with damn circular reasoning .

  256. narcole1919721 says:

    Dear sakat. why you keep copy pasting questions, from same site? you think i didnt know this? i can predict ur other questions. do u have questions from ur own mind? such questions already answered in many languages. and i wonder why the questions and articles, exactly the same but in different languages. what propaganda are you bringing? 

  257. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol, i knew it already. I wonder how come they dont know and let them brainwashed by fitnah? didnt their religions teach them not to easily believe in fitnah?

  258. Husky33 says:

    I know right.. B) 

    I just got my title for my bachelor degree in mass communication.. Even my lecturers said so, mass media is not something you can trust. I dont understand why they so sure that there are chaos wherever Islam resides.. Not in my country.. My college is the london school of public relations, and its in jakarta, indonesia (fyi, check if u are curious).. And the college is famous for its diversities (ethnics to religions) none of my non-moslems friends consider me as a threat.. NONE.. And these guys didnt believe that hahahahhaha.. Im here to show them peace.. The real Islam, so i guess i wont stop talking in here xD

  259. Husky33 says:

    Yep.. My bad hahaha.. 

  260. Husky33 says:

    Hahahhaha hi narcole.. Nice to talk to you.. They keep calling us Muhammadans.. I dont understand why.. But i think its a good name for a fandom hahhahah..

  261. narcole1919721 says:

    Im glad there other muslims here who have same view, and witness the reality together. these non moslems, watch tv too much. i did tell them media is part of fitnah dajjal. its editable. i ask them to prove in real life. at least come and visit peaceful moslem countries. They just keep mentioning dhallin in several islamic countries. which i doubt whether the governments know islam well, but label only. 

  262. Husky33 says:

    Hehehe.. Past is rough for everyone.. Like my nation, invaded by portuguese, japanese, dutchmen, etc, i guess so does the other countries on that period, AND EVEN FAR BEFORE THAT.. Since human still trying to conquer lands and stuffs, and its clear in our Holy Qur'an that my Prophet is doing his duty as the messenger of God and the leader of his people.. HOWEVER.. The duties are not like what ali sina or the rest of u mentioned, i dont know where the heck did u guys find that knowledge.. "According to my scholars" scholars are just human, they can be wrong or not be able to explain it well, so does the rest of us.. Its not about hiding, its about you stop spreading false things about us moslems that can cause riot.. U said u search for peace but u guys seems to find riot instead of peace, i live in a very convenient peace until i found out what u guys been doing xD 

    Wow cool, i got a colour.. What colour am i? 

    Pure fiction? Well.. Im not here to write a novel, im here to try to speak to you guys and find out what so wrong to be in love with Allah SWT and His Rasulullah SAW

  263. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol guest was on ur side. 

  264. narcole1919721 says:

    *rolls eyes* mr ali only knew junior highschool knowledge in hadits and quran. not joking. 

  265. narcole1919721 says:

    Come to my place and meet my sheikhs. prove your self, sakat. dont just watch tv. 

  266. Sakat says:

    Why the son of Hamas ,who read the Quran in Arabic had left Islam saying Quran is war manual and not a holy book and Mohammed a robber ,rapist ,thug etc. .Just Google here you tube for his interview ,you will come to know the fate of your Arabic Quran in the hands of Arab themselves baby .Now he has embraced Jesus ha ha ha.

  267. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    Husky33'
    "-IF YOU ARE NON BELIEVER, THEN YOU WILL BE PUNISHED-"
    Muhammadans have arrogated to themselves the duty to punish, by killing in most instances, those who exercise that same right that you claim, in their own way. But they (muhammadans) expect to express their 'islamic law' freely wherever they choose to live. Divine punishment is on the murderous muhammadans,

  268. narcole1919721 says:

    Husky, these people make me keep laughing too. laugh out loud, not mad. i never met persons like them in real life. So funny jokers.

  269. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    Husky33,
    You say that these are stories in the past. At least you have admitted that non muhammadans had a rough deal. How distant is that past from now? " Christians are the least of your problems" because, according to your scholars, killing 'unbelievers' is a small thing to you." If we are not fond of you killing us, we have to stay hidden". That sums up the plight of non muhammadans. You have now come out in your true colors. Like the true muhammadan that you are, what you posted earlier was pure fiction. Ali Sina is right about muhammadanism.

  270. Husky33 says:

    Hahaha.. I wanna ask something to you.. Just wanna know your answer to this.. Dont see me as a threat..

    What if.. You are wrong, and Islam is right, and my God is the truly God, and my Prophet is a loving person unlike whatever u might believe now?

    Just ask.. Im not fight against you or anything 😉

  271. unknown says:

    When I come to know that there are doctors with a Phd who decided to become religious, I get stunned. I mean why or how this can be? lots of contradictions is here. Let the religious people read very carefully their "holy" books, and if it happen and they understand what it is written there, they will really be disappointed because they will realize that they are worshiping the devil.
    Maybe "God" and the "Devil" are one intity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5mYFJ4irxM

  272. Husky33 says:

    Okay okay.. Elementary.. Im not really good with english since its not my mother tongue.. 

    Divisions and sects are true.. But ahmadiyah IS NOT Islam's sect or division.. They are wrong people who unfortunately knew the wrong thing and caught by it.. There are Sunni, Syi'ah, Muhammadiyah, and etc.. But Ahmadiyah is invalid.

    Look, i just try to make many examples or refer many things to anything that close to what we are talking about, just like another usual conversations. 

    About the essence of your questions, i get it all.. But since we are debating, we are stand in our own belief.. That is why i seemed to cannot understand you, but let's have a good debate so we know who is right or wrong, and be calm.. Im not a threat to you.. Right?xD

  273. Husky33 says:

    I cant prove them? Its all over the world hahaha, which one that i cant prove.. I might have many limitations, but i will try to answer you.. We were talking about ahmadiyah right? Not hindu or christian.. I will say this again to you, IF you hear any news regarding intolerance towards religions like Hindu, Christians, Catholics, or Buddha that has been done by a muslim, then he is not a muslim.. We are not a violent creature people!! ^_^ 

    Okay if you dont like my idea helping you to stop people from spreading the false thing about you, then i'll leave you alone with that.. Besides its just an example

  274. Husky33 says:

    Hahaha if a person knew too much, he should've been a true believer like any other Islamic Scholar.. 

    Well i told you i will ask someone who got the right to deal with you, since you spreading such false and undelighted statements.. Or I will come to you straightaway.. I can do many things right? I just need to be creative enough to stop you without hurting you physically and mentally

    Okay then.. I just add some info

  275. chuck says:

    @Husky33
    //Lol.. I wonder what christians do if they found //
    Thats not relevant. The question here is about Islam.

    //U havent got the essence of my reply//
    You didn't get the essence of my question.

    //Islam, catholic, christian, hinduism, buddha, are the real form of each religion.//
    You are miraculously wrong. All religions have several divisions/sects. Christianity – Roman Catholics, Protestants, Calvinist, Methodist etc, Hindu – Vedantic, Dvaitvadi, Vaishnavs, Shakts, Shaivites etc, Buddhism – Theravada, Tibbetan Mahayana, Hinyana etc….

    //catholic, christian, hinduism, buddh//
    You say you have such diverse friends but you don't even know the basic identities of their religions!! Catholic aren't separate from Christians, Buddha is the name of a person (and a state of mind/consciousness) not a religion. the religion is called Buddhism. ELEMENTARY!!

  276. Husky33 says:

    Brainwash.. Haha sorry

  277. Husky33 says:

    Transforming? Do you thing my Prophet is a transformers hahahaha? Sorry i just think that what you are saying is silly.. So yeah, i kinda like to reply you with silly-ness as well.. My Prophet is a very compassionate yet a patient figure.. He'd rather to ask me help my mommy with dishes, rather than ask me to kill you like you always believe.. Ali sina have brainstormed you guys..

  278. chuck says:

    //but why the heck he gone far astray from the truth while im here living under the love of my God who feed me and taking care of me all the time lmao//
    May be, as you said, Ali Sina knows far more hadiths than you know.

    //you cant stop me either from telling you to stop spreading it to people//
    Yes I can't. But that wasn't the question. The question was how would you, as you said, shut my mouth and stop me spreading 'untruths'?

    //But all i know, if you are non believer, then you will be punished//
    I am not talking about any divine punishment here. This much should have been clear by now.

  279. Husky33 says:

    Lol.. I wonder what christians do if they found any wrong or twisted version of the real christian teaching and ideology.. Islam, catholic, christian, hinduism, buddha, are the real form of each religion.. If you talk about ahmadiyah then it'll be very different because they manipulated Islam and making it wrong.. So they need to stop.. Do i killed ahmadiyah? Hahahaha i didnt.. I dont know how to kill people.. U havent got the essence of my reply

  280. Sakat says:

    @chuck
    See now, she is really transforming or rather emulating Mohammed in its real intolerable form.They cant answer the flaws of their religion hahaha.

  281. Husky33 says:

    Well.. I hate Justin Bieber, and for me he is just another talentless guy and should've never exist in the entertainment industry.. But i know if i declare that to his fans, then they will feel hurt and they will hate me.. Since you dont believe in my Prophet and so on and so on.. 1. If you believe so, then no one can ask you not to believe that, as i said, Muslim dont have any rights to destroy what you believe, we have many other things to do(like i always said).. 2. You spread it, then there will be people who against you and will try ro make you stop from say so, and as long as i know, you cant stop me either from telling you to stop spreading it to people xD im a human, i have my right.. That is my responses.. If you ask me about the Islamic law, i could say that i envy ali sina to know so much compared to me who knew only few of many hadists ( but why the heck he gone far astray from the truth while im here living under the love of my God who feed me and taking care of me all the time lmao xD) i cant put any hadists regarding of your actions.. But all i know, if you are non believer, then you will be punished 😉

  282. Sakat says:

    @chuck
    See her reply to my above post ,she trying to spread her religion,but same if Ahamadis, do, they are killed.Surprisingly see consenting to it .These educated Muslims are more dangerous then an illiterate one woof…….

  283. Sakat says:

    Qur'an itself is a formidable weapon ,he who reads it certainly a criminal, if not practically at least mentally and emotionally and you are no exception to it .Your cheap response to Chucks post regarding the plights of Ahmadiyas in your native Indonesia reveals this fact,very simple.

  284. chuck says:

    @Husky33,
    //Ahmadiyah spread their ideology and teach them to many villagers, which is very wrong//
    Which muslims do too. Why is it wrong when a Hindu or Christian or Ahamadiya does that? Because YOU believe certain things to be fact (you can't prove them)? That is exactly what is called religious intolerance. I don't want a friend who like you would go to the Principal complaining, I would rather have my friend go ahead and meet people and tell them about what you think the truth about me is. Asking the principal will make him/her wield the stick to silence, while spreading the 'truth' will douse the 'untruth' and it will also test what you believe the truth about me is.

  285. Husky33 says:

    Hahahaha.. Primitive.. Criminals.. Can you tell me why exactly im one of the crime-free person in this world.. I dont know how to hold a kalashnikov unless im playing video games, i dont know how to steal or fornicating or stuffs that you try to point me of it.. My Qur'an is what's made me feel peace and tolerate with anyone.. Im here because i just hope that you'd know the real Islam.. And i wont ask you to be a muslim dont worry.. But if u do then its lovely! ^_^

  286. Husky33 says:

    Yes chuck.. Because it'll cause massive chaos, and if no one handle the ahmadiyah then that is what u will get, chaos from the villagers or even muslims in here.. Look, just pretend that we are friends.. And there is someone that started to tell false things about you to everyone else, then they believe it and start spreading it even wider, then i heard about it.. As a good friend i will took an action in order to clear your name from that false thing about you, the positive action is to tell them that they are wrong, but if they continue to believe and discussing about it and spread it to anyone else, then i will tell to the principal (imagine that we are studying in school) and ask him to sort things out, because i knew you are not like what they say and false thing about you shall not be spread any wider.. In this case, i dont like when they spread it and NOT when they believe it.. I dont care about people's faith, since i got many things to do aside from thinking about their faith.. Ahmadiyah spread their ideology and teach them to many villagers, which is very wrong.

  287. Sakat says:

    @Truth- hurts
    Full marks

  288. chuck says:

    @Husky33,
    //They should just shut their mouths and stop spreading it to others??
    And how are those mouth to be shut? And how indeed the spread be stopped?

    I don't believe, just like your Christian, Hindu and Buddhist friends, that Muhammad was a prophet and therefore he can be criticized or scrutinized just like any ordinary human being can be. What do you think should by punishment be – 1. If I believe so, 2. I try to spread this 'message'?

  289. Sakat says:

    Husk/Narcole
    Don't change your garments ,wherever you hide you cant escape our hawk eyes baby,Your Islam is ugliest most primitive religion ,the religion of unsound people.Your Quran is holly book for criminals and Mohammed is prophet of criminals.Don't try to make him holy man he is hooligan ha ha ha.

  290. chuck says:

    @Husky33
    //(because its a false teaching and they spread it to people which is unaccepted)//
    But then that is precisely the point here. So you say that Ahamadiya is principally wrong and its spread is unacceptable and needs policing. So the government agencies are supposed to interfere in religious beliefs? I don't have anything else to say.

  291. Husky33 says:

    And chuck.. About the "definite right to believe that Muhammad SAW wasn't the last of the prophets" wow! Sorry, it is unacceptable.. It is the fact that Muhammad SAW is the last of the prophets and if someone said the contrary, they are totally delusional.. They should just shut their mouths and stop spreading it to others

  292. Husky33 says:

    Dear Chuck.. Have u read my reply carefully? I said that the issue was occured in the village.. Not in a big town like Jakarta where i live.. Villagers here are lack of education.. Thanks to our unsupportive government.. And my point is, they cannot think straight when they knew about the existance of ahmadiyah, they went straightly nuts and beat them straightaway.. Unlike me or people in the big city who tend to bring the case straightly to police (because its a false teaching and they spread it to people which is unaccepted). Its mostly because the internal problem of our country.. But there are still many people who fight for peace and applying the proper use of the law in here, so its not something we ignore. Im a mass comm scholar, and they taught me that mass media tend to broadcast only some news that appealing to the public.. So i guess those very bad issues u knew about us are overshadowing many good things about harmony in Indonesia, like i feel since i was born till today.

  293. chuck says:

    @Husky33,
    But aren't Ahamadiyas also human being and have a definite right to believe that Muhammad wasn't the last of the prophets and still believe in some of the Islamic traditions and preaching?

  294. Husky33 says:

    Hahaha.. Well i cant agree for that statement.. Im a moslem, nor pluralist, nor secularist or whatever u call it.. Or even sunni, shi'ah and stuffs.. But i do let people choose their own faith and not to harm them for doing so, because to be honest that is exactly what adults around me has taught me to do.. Plus Islam hates violence, like i said before what we need to do is to pray and behave well to ourselves and others.. And about the second link you gave me, its been indonesia's problem about those violence to religious minorities, its so wrong and some of us still try to fix this.. But about ahmadiyah.. Well they are really really really have gone far astray from the real point of Islam.. Then the people against them and went nuts, then u knew the rest.. Its basically because they lived in the village and lack of what we call "education" so all they know is punch first ask later.. And they done it with thiefs, rapists and etc.. Nothing to do with Islam's ideology

  295. Husky33 says:

    Did i ever talk about japan? I never mentioned any japan before.. 

  296. chuck says:

    @Husky33,
    Another typo? 'Pluralist'. If you believe that people following their own religions have a right to do so and such systems have their own 'correct' values and therefore aren't do be despised or harmed, then off course you are tending to being a pluralist and I respect that view.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_pluralism

  297. Husky33 says:

    Just wanna ask.. Did u just pointed me as a plularist?

  298. Guest says:

    Truth- hurts, you submitted a very misleading representation of Islam in Japan in your previous posts. I discovered that. Before you correct your submission about Japan, don't talk about Indonesia which you may not even know where it is.

  299. Husky33 says:

    So much typo im sorry.. Its GOD SWT.. :p

  300. Husky33 says:

    Oops.. Typo.. I mean you are the one who is not well informed

  301. Husky33 says:

    I dont think that you are the one that not well informed about this.. Indonesia is big, we got many provinces and etc, if there are some cases that telling you about Muslims doing not-so-well behaviours towards non-muslims then its them who drowned in fake teaching of Islam.. Not me and the rest of real muslims.. You guys (the non muslims) are the very least of our concern. What is the most important thing for us is to fix our behaviours and need to bow to Our Gods SWT as much as possible.. Not thinking about how we should get rid of non muslims! At least people.. If u are not fond of what we do, just stay hidden and talk to each other who have the same thoughts instead of spreading the hate which is so damn wrong..

  302. Truth- hurts says:

    Because u n your gangs will go on a rampage if India had not banned it.

  303. Truth- hurts says:

    U are not well informed about the plight of the Christians in Indonesia. Go n read the news. 

  304. I-HATE-ISALM says:

    Husky33,
    Muhammadanism is exactly what Ali Sina has presented. It is not what you fancy which is pure fiction. What is happening to non muhammadans in Indonesia? How free are they to profess their religions? No matter how hard you try, you cannot deceive certain people. No greater evil has befallen man than muhammadanism.

  305. narcole1919721 says:

    I accidentally watched on tv today, story about a man who translated quran using his own intrepretation and published the book 10000 exemplars. when he met his sheikh and his friends, they didnt want to talk to him, cos according to them he interpreted it wrongly. Then he realized his mistake, and afraid to mislead many people. So he asked the publisher to withdraw all the books eventhough he had to get broke for printing cost of those 10000 exemplars for nothing. His other friends at work and publisher against his decision, cos it would make great loss. They persuaded him to change his mind and enjoy the profit instead, cos many bought already and many will buy too. So from this story, can you conclude that translation book is real quran? No, quran is holy script in arabic, forever original. Its not editable books with various languages. What you have read was only a book, not holy script in islam. so never quote something in other book and say its quran.

  306. narcole1919721 says:

    Okay Aryan, read ur sanskrit well and dont disturb others.

  307. i dont believe this!!! india has banned the movie ''innocence of islamic jihad'' and u cant watch it from india!

  308. Aryan Hindu says:

    Why should Aryans learn subhuman languages like Arabic when we have Sanskrit ?

  309. sunsetsinmuddywater says:

    Are you better than the translators??? Do you think that you know Arabic better than the translators?
    Do you think that these guys translated in English sitting all alone?
    Don't you think that it might have been checked and rechecked by some Mullahs before being published ?
    Don't you think that the translations would have been banned by now if it were not properly translated ?
    I bet you don't know Arabic either .

  310. narcole1919721 says:

    Islam..quran…arabic…the end..zzz 

  311. Sakat says:

    Then don't come here ,this is called escapism ,your cult fooled billion people by this red-herring all these 1400 years,don't think its repetitions here , this is exclusively a English site you have to interpret your Qur'an for us in English ,this only the way left to you.

  312. Abdul says:

    @Fider
    Quran is very clear book and its interpretations also very easy. Allah himself declared it.

  313. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    @Momo
    "Islam talks about justice" Waalssariqu waalssariqatu faiqtaAAoo aydiyahuma jazaan bima kasaba nakalan mina Allahi waAllahu AAazeezun hakeemunAs to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power.
    What Kind of Justice  Allah is doing tell us he if you make everything, means he is responsible for thieving also he teach the man for thieve( You will reply it is Ebless, but Ebless is also produced by him so first he have to take the responsibility of to teaching thieving the knowledge  of human being  and apologizing to human for prompting on wrong way and secondly he is not justifying because if we cut hand now he/she not able to to work completely and again he will do like that or start to beg.
    "It is from justice the peace comes."
    Now you can analyze that peace will not be here it will be perturbation and made the cause of disappointing for all of us.  

  314. Hindustani says:

    Dear Ali Sina, 

    Do you think that once the Irani people will leave Islam, it will create a domino-effect to the rest of the muslim-countries?  Maybe they can go back to Zoro-Astrianism, which was the religion for the Persian people….Islam made it dissapear. I've read about Zoro-Astrianism and it made me sad Islam 'choked' it. It was a beautifull religion. More than 100.000 followers of Persia fled their country and moved to India, because when muslims invaded Persia, they had no chance but to convert or flee.

    Here in India there is an Hindustani actress whose great grandparents were from Persia, her name is Sanaya Irani. She follows Zoro-astrianism, and she's proud of it.

    Islam will be the first religion to vanish, it's the only religion that promotes hate and killing.

  315. narcole1919721 says:

    Then curse english prophet. cos my prophet never interpreted in english. prophet messaged us to learn languages.  in islam, universal language is arabic. even jesus and budha didnt speak english. If you ask me to explain all arabic quran in english then whats the difference between me and sina/yusuf ali. im not expert in english, if i mislead one person from my wrong translation, lll be cursed by god.  the best way is to attend majlis ta3lim directly with real sheikh. im capable for clues only cos of my limitted time and my english vocabularies. i think you should change tafsir. And get more references from other languages.  but if u find more confusion from ur tafsir you may ask, decently. insha Allah ill try to answer from knowledge i have.

  316. Sakat says:

    It is your claim baby ,we don't want to understand your Qur'an in Arabic ,it is not our language either ,you want to convince us, you have to bring your Qur'an in our language or in the Universal language (that is English ). You claim to be master of Arabic ,and in that language you have digested Quaran in its pristine purity .Your English is not either bad ,why can't you take trouble to bake your Arabic Qur'an into English ,this is a good service to Allah isn't it.Think about it.

  317. narcole1919721 says:

    You mean al kahfi ayat 86? masha Allah, its story of prophet zulkarnain, alexander the great  from eroupe and found ya2juj ma2juj civilization who disturbed people around place he visitted in "3ainin hami2ah" .how could you interprete arabic words as u like? 

  318. narcole1919721 says:

    Gendus, u almost got misled by ur emotion. Quran clearly tells us not to trade religion for anything.  i know u want to ask them to prove their statements. but switching religion as a bet is even almost kufr. God tells us to choose whatever they want for themselves, and take consequences for themselves too. in yasin even tells, its just the same whether you warn again or not, they wont listen. Becos of their sins stain their hearts which make their hearts blind already. you did remind them several times already, if they still dont listen, just leave them. better save ourselves instead.

  319. sunsetsinmuddywater says:

    If you are intelligent enough, then can you explain why the Quran says that sun sets in muddy water.

  320. sunsetsinmuddywater says:

    @ Gendus
    // Now, give the evidence for that.
    if you can give the evidence, I'll leave Islam.
    that's very simple. //

    Then the apostle sent Khalid bin Walid… to the Banu al-Harith and ordered him to invite them to Islam three days before he attacked them. If they accepted then he was to accept it from them; and if they declined he was to fight them. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 959)

  321. sunsetsinmuddywater says:

    Reading and understanding are both different terms. Most of the Muslims can read Arabic but they can't understand what they are reading.

  322. sunsetsinmuddywater says:

    @ Gendus
    // We need evidence. Not words.
    If I said that I am a president, will you believe it? //

    Mohammad said I am the prophet sent by Allah, then why do you believe him to be the prophet. Is there any evidence????

  323. Husky33 says:

    Huufft.. I love how narcole responded.. And the rest who knew that Islam is not what Ali Sina always mentioned in his blog.. Btw im from Indonesia.. And what i feel until today.. I live in peace.. And whats funny, i keep reading this blog but none of the words turned me to be a fool like the writer..B)

  324. BigRoger says:

    Now Ali you start to talk about the "light of God". You used to introduce yourself as an atheist or an agnostic/freethinker, have you become a believer ? 

  325. Momo says:

    Islam talks about justice. It is from justice the peace comes. Yes, there are some verses of the Koran talks about war but they are actually talking about justice which has to be established on earth. It's not about hate, or forcing belief on people, it's all about justice and morals. 
    Ali Sina does not understand 'justice' in the Koran. He cherry picked some verses of the Koran then added some punctuation whenever necessary to suit his lie about the Koran.  Ali Sina is not an expert at the Koran, nor is he an expert at  Islam. But he is actually an expert at lie and hate. 

  326. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Of course, I am here because because of the quran, that is to help expose its evil and emptiness. I don't need any Arabic to enable me know what I have already known.

  327. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Sounds like the growling of a silver back gorilla.

  328. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    And what about darwinist?

  329. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Sakat,
    That confirms our like-mindedness.

  330. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721
    Live monkeys are better and more useful than dry bones called allah and buried in the desert of Medina for 1400 years.As for the so-called blessings, they end up causing the children of evil to flee in droves their primitive desert homes, which even darwinian apes will reject, for better lives in civilized climes. An example is you.

  331. narcole1919721 says:

    Baaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy *focus on ibadah for real* 

  332. narcole1919721 says:

    Yeah..darwinist 😉

  333. narcole1919721 says:

    But ur here bcos of Quran. 🙂 u cnt speak more about it without knowing arabic. the end.

  334. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721
    I told you that you are flirting here to hook the unsuspecting and to seek notice. I like you just as much as I like a gorilla.

  335. Sakat says:

    I-HATE-ISLAM ·
    / The best place for those who are mad is the lunatic asylum./
    I have already charted out this place for her ,see how our mind meets at single point, hats up to you ,ok see you on Thursday.

  336. narcole1919721 says:

    See ya after Eid! Insha Allah 😉 oh gosh i wish i could die in ramadan for the blessing x')

  337. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Sakat,
    Thanks friend.

  338. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Arabic is meant for nitwits. It will be more profitable for me to raise swine than waste my time on an unproductive venture. At least I can sell the swine and make tonnes of money. Arabic only teaches how to be harmful to humanity. I am not cut out for misadventures.

  339. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol i dont wanna be here with darwin apes. i wanna do ibadah in ramadan, month full of blessing! and seek lailatul qadar, night when trees bow, water freezes, salty sea tastes like honey…many non moslems accidentally found this night converted to islam! n many many more blessing! such a waste to be missed for tranny and monkey worshippers!

  340. Sakat says:

    I-HATE-ISLAM
    /Even ocean waves are more consistent than the quran and its idea./
    Nice phrase buddy,on spot ,well done.

  341. narcole1919721 says:

    Duh. Duh. Duh. its you who brought it, you with your english DAJJAL translation. and ur incapabilty to understand arabic. pity ur iq. i dont wanna hear anymore u quoting english dajjal quran, without you even know ARABIC. so hush. no more quoting 123. Bring original arabic. bring it on 🙂

  342. Sakat says:

    Sorry no waste time on unusual things.Big by.

  343. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Once you are on this site it is fool hardy to expect that you will be left alone or dictate the pace for others to follow. You can only control what you do but not what others do. There is no hiding place for evil. Don't run and hide in the name of any mad thing. Stay here and face your nemesis. The best place for those who are mad is the lunatic asylum.

  344. narcole1919721 says:

    You like me? X')

  345. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721
    This shows the real nature of muhammadanism; nothing is ever certain about it. Even ocean waves are more consistent than the quran and its idea. It will give children nightmares if read as bedtime stories to them. Which are you more pre-occupied with, the food you have been stuffing yourself with while pretending to be fasting or the illicit romance with your "bf"?

  346. narcole1919721 says:

    I pity you for being sun go kong and friends with pat kay and worship tranny kwan im pffft…a male god who decided to be a chick x'D

  347. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721
    "Ignorants" like you.B)

  348. narcole1919721 says:

    Bla bla bla. quoting 123, and english bed time story. not quran. quran is ARABIC, if you want to quote REAL QURAN, quote the arabic. and the ayat number is related to explanation from previous ayat and next ayat. dont relate ENGLISH word from some ayat, with other new ENGLISH word from random ayat which the meaning far from the word. this is why quran is in One language. So that no diversity in meaning. And in quran also said, even if quran wasnt in arabic, its just the same….kafirin still deny. omgosh….dont reply me. i want to focus. 

  349. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    The modus is that your aim is to fool the unsuspecting visitors to this site by claiming that the English translation of the quran is not correct. Reliance should be placed only on the arabic version. This is the height of scamming as nobody can learn that language of semi apes on this site before understanding what you post let alone the quran. The English version captures as much as possible the whole essence of the quran which is violence. Exceptions to this are the English versions by crooks like Yusuf Ali, Rashad Khalifa etc.

  350. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Your favorite phrase is "HE COPIED AND PASTED". Such is your accusation even if the quotation is from the quran. Is it that the quran can no longer be quoted because its provisions are very bizarre? Or is this a reflection of your lack of originality?

  351. Sakat says:

    I can clearly sense , how you are disturbed with my real facts about your cult Islam ,which my posts brings at your door ha ha ha.

  352. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    And what does this unintelligible writing mean?

  353. Sakat says:

    I pity you ,may be you are hungry now ,fasting morning ,eat meat and have mental sex with your bf tonight ,again you have get up early morning for wasting another day of your life for fasting ha ha ha.let mad Mohammed bless you from hell ha ha ha..

  354. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Phoenix,
    Muhammadanism is all about absurdities, fear, sex and violence.It is really f

  355. Abdul says:

    @narcole1919721
    Why are you preaching against Quran by supporting the views certain verses not easily understandable in Quran. Was Allah wrong who said Quran is a   “clear book” (5:15) “easy to understand” (44:58 , 54:22 , 54:32, 54:40) “explained in detail” (6:114), “conveyed clearly”, (5:16, 10:15) and with “no doubt” in it (2:1). 

  356. Abdul says:

    @narcole1919721
    //you make up fake translation which could make//
    Why did Allah leave scope of translation? Why did not Allah send quran in all languages to stop fake translations? Why did Allah show favoritism to Arabs. Sending the quran in international language would be  better option than Arbi which is told by less than 1% people of world.

  357. Abdul says:

    @narcole
    I did not question. I answered to Kuttu that Quran is very clear book. And no verse is difficult to understand in Quran.  Quran is the proof of it. Allah himself declare Quran as  “clear book” (5:15) “easy to understand” (44:58 , 54:22 , 54:32, 54:40) “explained in detail” (6:114), “conveyed clearly”, (5:16, 10:15) and with “no doubt” in it (2:1). 
    If you claim certain verse not easily understandable in Quran,  you are preaching against Quran and Allah words. It is kufra.

  358. narcole1919721 says:

    Oh please, dont waste ur time. Abdul already asked this using his other account. And this question didnt come from his mind. He copy paste it from some site.and that site got copied and translated into several languages, and for every translator gt paid for spreading this. And ofcourse, other moslems answred and replied already in other languages too. Their purpose here isnt to find truth, but only spread fitnah for weak persons who got no basic in religion.

  359. narcole1919721 says:

    Hi phoenix, amitaba-chan 😉

  360. Abdul says:

    @Kutu
    //Ayat al-mutashabihat is very difficult to understand //
    Are u ignorant? Now you are telling me that this all knowing all wise God is not very clear in his guidance and has left it to humans to interpret what he said but Allah claims Quran is very clear book. Quran repeatedly claims to be a “clear book” (5:15) “easy to understand” (44:58 , 54:22 , 54:32, 54:40) “explained in detail” (6:114), “conveyed clearly”, (5:16, 10:15) and with “no doubt” in it (2:1).  http://alisina.org/blog/2011/05/10/reinterpreting

  361. narcole1919721 says:

    Those messages were for sakat cos he sounded so funny with his foolish arguments which my self 3ainul yaqin and haqqul yaqin that hes wrong and made up stuff. and other actions he did secretely which he thought nobody would notice. this site is fishy. i made some investigation n kept laughing for this. dear nizam, if u really wanna know about MY islam, just mail me. cos they will keep intruding with funny comments and i wont stop laughing and cant focus on what im doing here in real life.

  362. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    @Narcole1919721,

    I'm not disturbing you, It is you who come and poke to other one and say that don't disturb me. I think this Ramdaan you read Quran completely and get the meaning also completely no doubt will be take a place in your mind. 

  363. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Dear Narcole 19119721,
    First you control yourself you always use this word Lol, and a person try to abuse and use bad word when he lost temper and a person lost his temper when he think other one is defeat, and I'm not saying to you that my Quran Translation is correct but if I, Ali Sina, Abdul and other one who is misguided then please you provide us the actual translation. This will be beneficial for everyone who misguided and who not get Islam till now?

  364. Phoenix says:

    @ I_HATE-ISLAM
    I get what you're saying,there's a correlation between absurdity and violence,but correlation does not imply causation.Every religion and even atheists to a certain degree believe in absurdities but none are as dangerous as muslims.Reason being,although the quran contains many verses that contradicts science and logic ,the verses that are designed to instill fear into muslims far outweighs the absurd verses.Terror (extreme fear) is the quran's primary objective.When muslims commit acts of terror,they're actually projecting their own extreme fears onto their victims.

  365. narcole1919721 says:

    Happy ramadhan too. ignore ignorants 😉

  366. narcole1919721 says:

    And please stop replying me. leave me alone x') let me fast in peace, sholat khushu3, cook, read quran, and tarawih. you lazy person. only sit doing yoga for nothing :p dont reply x'D

  367. narcole1919721 says:

    Lolol what you say about quran are the opposite. if you quote any surah with ayat, you make up fake translation which could make people who dont master arabic, and only master english have no option but to get fooled. ALL PEOPLE WHO VISIT THIS SITE MUST KNOW THIS MODUS ^^

  368. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Dear Kutu,
    "Quran does not say all of that. It's you who do not understand Quran. I know you read it from Ali Sina and you easily believe him without studying Quran by yourself. Quran is compatible with modern science, there is no single verse of the Koran which contradicts the science." What did you read and find all trustfulness please share among us so we can get the actual Islam by  Kutu. Please this is my kind request to you.

  369. chuck says:

    @I-HATE-ISLAM :-). 

  370. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Chuck,
    She can then eat to her heart's content to have the energy to face us here. But she is running away.

  371. Sakat says:

    See how desperate you are ,your cult members are following us silently and they are finding truth ,now you are afraid, they may leave your cult .You know in Indonesia yearly 1 million people are leaving Islam and embarrassing their ancestral noble religions like Hinduism and Buddhism .You are a God send for us,for further striping and peeling your cult Islam thank you .Btw the day fasting and night eating to the throat with meat is injurious and dangerous to health ,this is what the science of your Quran, you mean to say , OK let doctors fill their pocket for your stupidities.

  372. Guest says:

    //Have you ever come across news that the Ayatollah of Iran or the King of Saudi Arabia or even a Saudi Prince has visited Japan?//

    Khaled Almaenna, Arab News

    TOKYO, 7 April 2006 — Saudi Arabia and Japan yesterday called for a Middle East free of nuclear weapons and wanted diplomacy to end the row over Iran’s nuclear program. Crown Prince Sultan and Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi issued the joint call after official talks in Tokyo.  

  373. chuck says:

    @Gendus,
    //To beat women means just a symbolic one. We are only allowed to beat them very lightly as beating with tooth brush, not in the face, and no mark left. It is just symbolic. //
    Does the Quran allow the women 'symbolically' beating the husband? Even with a miswak?

    //Islam makes no difference between men and women//
    Reread the verses describing the inheritance laws for sons and daughters (Q 4:11) or the law governing witnesses (Q 2:282).

  374. chuck says:

    @I-HATE-ISLAM
    If narcole is undergoing menstruation she is exempted from the sawm.

  375. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Kulu
    Ali Sina is an icon who, with others, will demolish the evil called muhammadanism.

  376. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Anyone can make a spurious claim as you have done.

  377. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narfolce1919721,
    Go on with your rehashed pagan ritual. Pretend to be fasting while stuffing your stomach with all the food that is available and then make a show of it for the world to see. HYPOCRITE. Damn your ra-mad-an.
    You have shown the greatest lack of grasp of any topic debated on this from, always blaming your deficiency on 'emotion' brought about by 'period'. What scholarly presentation has anyone seen from you?
    Do you think you can bribe Chuck from continuing to give you those intellectual stings. You are wasting your time.
    Say that you are running away because of shame in the hands of those who have sufficiently given you a trashing. Ra-mad-an has nothing to do with it.

  378. Kutu says:

    rupanya kamu juga ikut ikutan gobok ya, mau2 nya jadi pengikut Ali Sina si tolol. 

  379. Kutu says:

    Happy Ramadhan, brother. 🙂

  380. narcole1919721 says:

    Im busy for ramadhan. For muslim brothers/sisters, please ignore some users, cos they dont have mind. id like to recommend you to debate chuck than others who dont read much but only watch and flatter their own multiple accounts. Lol. They got no life. For persons like nizamuddin or sina, you may leave wrong sections,  but you still could search more. somehow i cant blame you cos you were born in wrong place.  so, please no more comments for me, cos will tickle me when fasting and make me tempted to play. peace (._.)V

  381. Kutu says:

    Quran does not say all of that. It's you who do not understand Quran. I know you read it from Ali Sina and you easily believe him without studying Quran by yourself. Quran is compatible with modern science, there is no single verse of the Koran which contradicts the science. 

    There are ayat al-mutashabihat and ayat  al-muhkamat in the Koran. Ayat al-mutashabihat is very difficult to understand even a muslim scholar has to be really careful interpreting it. But you, a stupid follower of Ali Sina, seem to have no difficulty at all with Arabic and with the context of the revelation of the quranic verses. 

     

  382. Sakat says:

    You know the meaning of Ignorance ,because you no-nothing you feel others are not knowing , infect it is your mirror image (blind feels all are blind,it is his tragedy).

  383. Sakat says:

    Obnoxious/crap nothing more ……………………ha ha ha.

  384. Sakat says:

    Not necessary,but tell me why Quran say's earth is flat ,sun circumscribe earth ,earth is the center of universe,moon is above the stars ,sun set muddy water,are these "Truth". Now tell me we have lot of proof in the form fossils of Dinosaur ,they exist here on earth way back 15 to 20 crores years ,why Allah forgot to refer them in Quran ,man appeared on earth hardly 40 million years back Allah know only him why .I have to judge first your capacity to Debate ,first answer my queries.

  385. narcole1919721 says:

    Who said temporary? caesar made mistakes and appologized and granted forever citizenship 😉

  386. narcole1919721 says:

    I know who u are TT 

  387. narcole1919721 says:

    Ignorants x'D

  388. Kutu says:

    what do you know about the Koran? All you know is Ali Sina's bullshit.. 

  389. Kutu says:

    Sakat, 
    will you debate me? 

  390. Sakat says:

    sorry it is 'except Islam' ,i beg pardon.

  391. Sakat says:

    Your venting will not change facts and reality based on your own cults documents baby, ha ha ha.

  392. Kutu says:

    Infidel

  393. Sakat says:

    Truth- hurts, I think the web site is making 'guest' appearance.

  394. Sakat says:

    Kutu/Narcole
    No religion is teaching truth ,they preach righteousness to adopt in life ,accept Islam.Jesus had taught practically to excuse even to those who crucified him ,he said if someone slap on your right cheek offer him your left one .Buddha said don't kill animal ,don't desires for others property ,don't tell lie ,you have to become your own master .Do not believe blindly anything even if i say it ;your scriptures say's it; your ancestors followed it or society as whole follows it ,investigate its authenticity first and, then decide whether following it will be beneficial for me as well to the society as whole follow it ,otherwise discard it ,however your Mohammed is right opposite to moral teachings you got it .Here we are doing the same thing ,we have investigated ,done research and thoroughly dissected your Islam and found ,it is the most ugliest thing to follow for humanity (it will paralyses the human evolution)and so discarded it.You haven't heard about "Golden Rule" ,there are many articles written by Sina here in this site first read them and then come for clarification.

  395. Kutu says:

    Ali Sina is an iconoclast

  396. Truth- hurts says:

    Guest,
    When click yr given website, It says " about blank "

  397. Kutu says:

    Hi Ali Sina, 
    What religion is telling the truth, according to you? Can you tell me? If you can't, it simply means that your all your claims about Muhammad and Islam are BULLSHIT. 

    I know you will be very careful with this question, if you answer that Christianity is the one true religion, then your are saying that Hinduism is not a true religion then you will lose your followers of Hinduism. 
    If you answer that all religions are true except Islam, then you are making a very good joke. I'd die laughing at you. 

    please answer. 

  398. Kutu says:

    sawgila,
    Islam itu agama yang penuh damai dan cinta kasih. Jangan percaya apa kata Ali Sina. Dia tidak tau apa2 tentang Muhammad, yang dia inginkan hanyalah popularitas. Karna banyak yang jadi follower nya Ali sina akhirnya dia jadi populer dan dapat banyak uang. 

  399. Guest says:

    Truth – Hurts<

    4) In the Universities of Japan, Arabic or any Islamic language is not taught.

    &nbsp ;http://www.tufs.ac.jp/english/education/ug/studies/arabic.html  —- there is an Arabic Studies program in Tokyo University. 

  400. Sakat says:

    I-HATE-ISLAM
    She don't know what she is talking,she is a confined one in the shackles of Islam by her family,look how she is mentally imbalanced,she is wasting oxygen on this earth and,nothing else.

  401. Sakat says:

    Ramadan brings fortune for Doctors ha ha ha.

  402. Sakat says:

    Tell this BS to your bf, temporary residence wont make any one Japanese ha ha ha.

  403. Sakat says:

    I-HATE-ISLAM
    These Muslims find Ali in every one ,he has become night mare for these people ha ha ha.

  404. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    I am a black man of the darkest shade. I cannot blush. Even if I could, what is there in you that would provoke such a reaction? NOTHING, assuming that blushing cab be brought about by simply reading a writer's infantile comments.

  405. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    I do not message you. I respond to your balderdash.

  406. chuck says:

    @narcole1919721,
    //Actually i dont really read ur comments//
    Actually, these sheikhs you keep alluding to , this must be the first thing they taught you. Don't use reason, don't think and don't read the other has to say. But it also tells me that you are a liar. If you don't read my comment, how did you know that I was talking about my comments not being read or understood completely by you 🙂

  407. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    phoenix,
    That is still because they believe in absurdities such as the fear of allah as the monster from the depth of hell whose only existence is to torment people.

  408. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    I take the best care of my family. They do not go out begging in the street as muhammadan children do. My religion teaches that a man who can afford it but neglects to take care of his family is worse than an infidel. My family takes prime of place.
    So you are hanging around that unfortunate man, who may be of your grandfather's age, because of jewelry? What a pathetic creature!
    Unfortunately I have given Dr Sina nothing. I wish I could. The cause he is projecting deserves immeasurable support.

  409. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Gendus,
    There is a manual for every invention or technology which lays down how the item is to be operated. After that comes the report showing how it was done and the result. The quran is the manual and the hadiths and sira are the reports of how Muhammad following the manual perpetrated terrorism.
    Muhammad was the first 'prophet' of allah but whether he was the last is debatable as many after him have claimed the prophethood of muhammadanism.
    If every quranic verse has to be interpreted in a particular context, then the quran has no value as a spiritual guide. It has expired having served out its usefulness. Why are you deceiving yourself with something which has no value?

  410. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    You are too insignificant.

  411. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    The poison you subscribe to.

  412. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Bharat,
    Amazing post. To further prove how worthless that terror manual is, it lies against the Jews by saying that they claim Ezra was the son of God. The Jews never believed in God having a son. That was why they crucified the Lord Jesus Christ. Neither Muhammad nor his followers can substantiate such claim made against the Jews.

  413. narcole1919721 says:

    Hahaha my bro in law is japanese and muslim. liar 😉

  414. narcole1919721 says:

    Its just ur feeling, mr ali.

  415. narcole1919721 says:

    Where are ur wife and children? They are waiting for you to feed them. go to jewelry shop and give ur wife some. dont butter up ali sina. pity ur family :'/

  416. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Dear don't congratulate me congratulate Mr. Sina, Mr. Narcole, Sabeer, Momo and every one because I read the thought of all these guys and also analyze how differ there thought although they all are same religion but some are too harsh and some are believe in humanity. All are good for us and I've deficient that I'll not  hate Muslims but hate Islam because Muslims are not bad if is there any thing bad that is the above cited, they all are our brother and sister and all these guys have good knowledge they understand what is wrong and what if right but there is some psychological problem and they will be turned.    

  417. Sakat says:

    Then don't answer ok ha ha ha !!!,poor helpless typical Muslima .Mohammed had faced by same problems ,when he couldn't find answer ,Gabriel used to occupy his body and pooh pooh some sura's ,which would be the final answer and no further clarification ,if some body curious for further clarification ,his head would become the victim of butcher Omar's sword (there fore the blasmey law came in to existence). We know inside out about your cult but you don't know a fraction of our belief,there fore we are at upper hand.

  418. narcole1919721 says:

    Which muhammadanism? 😉

  419. narcole1919721 says:

    Cos u kept messaging me, saying, narcole…oh narcole  *blushes*

  420. narcole1919721 says:

    Actually i dont really read ur comments, cos unnecessary 🙁

  421. Sakat says:

    I-HATE-ISLAM
    I second you !!!

  422. phoenix says:

    Personally,I think Voltaire got it wrong when he said that belief in absurdities is the cause of atrocities.I believe fear is the main factor why people would harm others.Fear is also the number one reason why absurd teachings would remain unchallenged.Muslims are terrified of Allah,they dare not question his words and would even go as far as killing themselves to appease Allah.

  423. Sakat says:

    @Truth- hurts
    Your research is absolutely true ,after 9/11 5000 mulims were packed up from Japan.The Japanese are majority Buddhist.They have highest regard for Mahabhoddhi Temple and Maha Bhodhi tree at Gaya ,India .They have there separate monasteries and hotels for their citizens visiting Gaya .But now i am sure that ,the other day bomb blasting by Muslims in the temple and at Mahabhodhi tree have hurt them much and ,the repercussion will be ,Japanese will be much care full to give asylum to these Muslims in any near future.

  424. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Truth-hurts,
    EXCELLENT. THE JAPS ARE NOT ONLY SMART, THEY ARE THE MOST CIVILIZED IN THE MODERN ERA.

  425. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Gendus,
    Since my brothers on this site have already addressed some of your misrepresentations about muhammadanism, let me take on "AVOIDING BEING DRUNK". Yesterday, I watched a program on the NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC CHANNEL on an enclave in Iraqi Kurdistan which is the mecca for the sale of alcohol in that area. The caliph of the trade said that their stock went to Iran. Asked who the consumers were, he answered "POLITICIANS AND THE MULLAHS". All the while he was counting his prayer beads. As far as it is known, the Iranian politicians are all committed muhammadans. So while they and the mullahs are busing beheading the small fries caught with alcohol, they remain the mega consumers behind the scene.
    Who are you deceiving? Muhammad himself drank fermented wine and even used it for ablution. In you paradise there will be rivers of wine which will be " A DELIGHT TO DRINKERS". Will allah be sleeping when all that carousing will be taking place? WAKE UP.

  426. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    All answers given are in response to what muhammadans keep on regurgitating.We challenge you to prove what you claim about muhammadanism. I give you examples from my country. That is convincing prove that I exist. But you don't exist because of your inability to dislodge the arguments made against Muhammad and what he deceived people with. Like the thing called "allah", which does not exist, you too have no existence.

  427. Truth- hurts says:

    I NEVER KNEW THIS ABOUT JAPAN 

    Have you ever read in the newspaper that a political leader or a prime minister from an Islamic nation has visited Japan? Have you ever come across news that the Ayatollah of Iran or the King of Saudi Arabia or even a Saudi Prince has visited Japan? Japan is a country keeping Islam at bay. Japan has put strict restrictions on Islam and ALL Muslims. 
    The reasons are : 1) Japan is the only nation that does not give citizenship to Muslims.
     2) In Japan permanent residency is not given to Muslims.
     3) There is a strong ban on the propagation of Islam in Japan.
     4) In the Universities of Japan, Arabic or any Islamic language is not taught. 
    5) One cannot import a 'Koran' published in the Arabic language. 
    6) According to data published by the Japanese government, it has given temporary residency to only 2 lakhs, Muslims, who must follow the Japanese Law of the Land. These Muslims should speak Japanese and carry their religious rituals in their homes.
     7) Japan is the only country in the world that has a negligible number of embassies in Islamic countries. 
    8) Japanese people are not attracted to Islam at all. 
    9) Muslims residing in Japan are the employees of foreign companies. 
    10) Even today, visas are not granted to Muslim doctors, engineers or managers sent by foreign companies. 
    11) In the majority of companies it is stated in their regulations that no Muslims should apply for a job. 
    12) The Japanese government is of the opinion that Muslims are fundamentalist and even in the era of globalization they are not willing to change their Muslim laws. 
    13) Muslims cannot even think about renting a house in Japan . 
    14) If anyone comes to know that his neighbor is a Muslim then the whole neighborhood stays alert. 
    15) No one can start an Islamic cell or Arabic 'Madrasa' in Japan.  Sharia law not permitted in Japan. 
    16) If a Japanese woman marries a Muslim then she is considered an outcast forever. 
    17) According to Mr. Kumiko Yagi, Professor of Arab/Islamic Studies at Tokyo University of Foreign Studies, "There is a mind frame in Japan that Islam is a very narrow minded religion and one should stay away from it." 
    VERY SMART PEOPLE, THESE JAPANESE ! 

  428. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721
    Total nonsense. Continue in self deceit when you are cohabiting with a man who is not married to you and may never do so. You are here projecting that illicit relationship very prominently.

  429. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Truth-hurts,
    Did that really happen? THAT SPEECH WAS EPOCH MAKING AND SHOULD BE PRINTED IN GOLD FOR CIRCULATION TO THE DHIMMIS IN THE WEST AND ELSEWHERE. THAT WAS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE EXPRESSION OF NATIONAL INTEREST. MR PUTIN DESERVED MORE THAN A STANDING OVATION. I ADORE HIM. THAT IS WHO I SEE AS A GREAT NATIONAL LEADER.
    Let the fools in the West continue to wallow in the stupidity,

  430. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Chuck,
    That is exactly my assessment of the level of narcole's mentality.

  431. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcile1919721,
    And when did you stop replying, if that is not your pre-occupation?

  432. chuck says:

    @narcole1919721,
    //If i say yes, what will u say, if i say no what will you say//
    You are not reading my comments, are you? I said in my earlier comment: "Once that is done we can move to the follow-up questions depending on your answers. "

    //if i dont say anything what will you say, tell me//
    You are already saying a lot, most of which is crap.

  433. Truth- hurts says:

    On  February 4th, 2013, Vladimir Putin, the Russian  president, addressed the Duma, (Russian Parliament),  and gave a speech about the tensions with minorities  in Russia: 
    "In  Russia  live Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it  wants to live in Russia, to work and  eat in Russia,  should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian  laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, then we advise them  to go to those places where that's the state law.  Russia  does not need minorities. Minorities need  Russia,  and we will not grant them special privileges, or  try to change our laws to fit their desires, no  matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'. We  better learn from the suicides of  America,  England, Holland and France,  if we are to survive as a nation. The Russian  customs and traditions are not compatible with the  lack of culture or the primitive ways of most  minorities. When this honorable legislative body  thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind  the national interest first, observing that the  minorities are not Russians. 
    The politicians in the  Duma gave Putin a standing ovation for five  minutes.
     

    On  February 4th, 2013, Vladimir Putin, the Russian  president, addressed the Duma, (Russian Parliament),  and gave a speech about the tensions with minorities  in Russia: 

    "In  Russia  live Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it  wants to live in Russia, to work and  eat in Russia,  should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian  laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, then we advise them  to go to those places where that's the state law.  Russia  does not need minorities. Minorities need  Russia,  and we will not grant them special privileges, or  try to change our laws to fit their desires, no  matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'. We  better learn from the suicides of  America,  England, Holland and France,  if we are to survive as a nation. The Russian  customs and traditions are not compatible with the  lack of culture or the primitive ways of most  minorities. When this honorable legislative body  thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind  the national interest first, observing that the  minorities are not Russians. 

    The politicians in the  Duma gave Putin a standing ovation for five  minutes.
     

  434. narcole1919721 says:

    I didnt say x doesnt mean x 😉

  435. narcole1919721 says:

    Ashi, do i know you? New account eh? 😉

  436. narcole1919721 says:

    Ramadhan mubarak! 🙂

  437. narcole1919721 says:

    Ur talking to saw? 😉

  438. narcole1919721 says:

    If i say yes, what will u say, if i say no what will you say, if i dont say anything what will you say, tell me 😉 

  439. Sakat says:

    We want to save humanity from your maniac cult baby ,we took oath not to allow another 9/11 ok,I am sure ,you too one day blast yourself for this murderous cult ,your present state of mind is testimony of that .Now you are the citizen of Indonesia but, i appeal to the western world through this post not to give you asylum in their respective countries,for safety of their citizens.

  440. Ashi says:

    Have you read the Quran, Narcole? Maybe you should try it. See what happens.

  441. Ashi says:

    Yes, you are right. You should use the original Arabic. It reveals the true evil nature of these words. The english translation is too kind.

    What a fun game this is! You can just say, "X does not mean X!" and you win! Boy, I wish I had thought of that.

    Fider, you can interpret the Koran. Linguistic deals with language. He's reading it. There it is. You can read it, too, and think for yourself – or just continue to blame it on the language….

  442. excelsior says:

    I-HATE-ISLAM,
                               I totally agree with you, Sir!

  443. chuck says:

    @narcole1919721
    //Duh u really didnt get it. Das sein is what happened. Das sollen is whats supposed to happen. //
    Too trivial for me to not know that. You are again returning to 'taqdir'.
    Does it answer the question, No. Both the warring party couldn't have been correct at the same time.

  444. narcole1919721 says:

    Duh u really didnt get it. Das sein is what happened. Das sollen is whats supposed to happen. expectation and fact, not always same.  im too lazy to write more. Search urself further explanation. cos even if i spare time to write more ull just skip the truth and use ambiguous words to attack. so this site is nothing but a game to play. and no real public here. No democracy, no transparancy, and no respect. 

  445. chuck says:

    @narcole1919721,
    //i just love seeing you getting pissed off //
    Ha ha. You are being pissed at 🙂 The stink near your shoulder, no no not the right one, silly, the left one, is coming off the collective metabolic waste you are accruing.

  446. narcole1919721 says:

    Hehe…half wrong half right. im not here for fame. i just love seeing you getting pissed off 😉 

  447. chuck says:

    @narcole1919721
    //Yes or not, so whats ur problem? //
    My question is rooted in your comment against Shi'ism. You can simply say that you don't know the answer, or say Yes or say No. Instead of that you are trying wriggle out of the problem by pushing in taqdir and what not!! See all you are doing is delaying the answer when a simple Yes or  No will do. Once that is done we can move to the follow-up questions depending on your answers.

    //so whats ur problem? //
    I don't have a problem. This is a public forum. People come here and make comments and some of these comments require further 'digging up'. If you don't want that kind of scrutiny you should stop commenting on public forums. 

  448. narcole1919721 says:

    Honestly i consider you all dont exist. Its just a site seeking donation and paid some guys to keep defending with multiple accounts. copy paste same old questions which already written 😉

  449. chuck says:

    @Sakat,
    //i think she is some school going kid//
    In fact in very next comment she proves it. She says: "This site is for kindergarten kids to play."

    But I don't think she is even like a kid. I won't like to tarnish the innocence of a child by looking for any similitude here. My guess narcole is a 20 something muslim girl living in a Western country seeking 2 minutes of fame in this site. Few questions are all that it takes to peel off the naqab of knowledge and scholarship that is being projected here.

  450. narcole1919721 says:

    Noticed by who? you? lol

  451. narcole1919721 says:

    *likes*

  452. narcole1919721 says:

    And who is talking to this child? 🙂 you just cant stop commenting.  

  453. narcole1919721 says:

    Im lazy to type long and careless about what people read from me 🙂

  454. narcole1919721 says:

    *yawns* 

  455. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcile1919721,
    Your mentality typifies that of a kindergarten attendee. As for this site, it is a nightmare to muhammadans.

  456. sawgila says:

    hanya bisa menghakimi orang dan mencoba hidup dalam penyangkalan. Itulah wajah muslim yg sebenarnya. Apa yg bisa kita harapkan dari orang orang yg meyakini bahwa seoarang pedophile dan motivator terorisme adalah contoh sempurna yg diutus oleh "pencipta alam semesta"…. hehehe

  457. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    He does not need to know me. You are here seeking to be noticed.

  458. narcole1919721 says:

    Gosh u tricked me. I thought u were talking about prophet muhammad shollallahu 3alaihi wa salam. so u were talking about musailamah, the fake prophets proverb? gosh i even forgot musailamah. its like 10 years ago. not important person. yalla, lets play again.

  459. narcole1919721 says:

    This site is for kindergarten kids to play. dont talk something heavy, lets search dragonflies.

  460. excelsior says:

    CONGRATULATIONS, brother Nizamuddin Sheikh, for coming out of Islam! Shaabaash, mubarakey! 

  461. Sakat says:

    You know how that proverb originated .Once your Mad Mohammed played Taquiya with his followers ,he and his followers aware about miracles of Jesus ,and it was quite obvious to expect one form Allhas Apostle.Lo!!! Mohammed stepped into action, he told his follower that ,he will call the mount Arrafat unto him and that Mountain will listen ,people gathered to see this miracle near the mountain .Mohammed called the mountain ,but mountain didn't turned up ,why you know because ,he was thug and not saint like Jesus,finally Mohammed realized he can't perform miracles and then brought his taquiyya tactics into action ,and said if the mountain don't come unto Mohammed ;Mohammed will walk unto it.You know there are ,great sages and high Buddhist lama's in Himalaya's ,for them these kinds of miracles are child's play. look at your poor knowledge hahaha.

  462. excelsior says:

    Narcole,
                    Does it matter?

  463. excelsior says:

    Narcole,
                    DON'T DIGRESS! 

  464. Ali Sina says:

    @Gendus Who said you have to believe me without evidence? Why would any sane person want to do such an absurd thing? No one should believe anyone without evidence. You have to ask for evidence from me and from Muhammad. I have plenty of evidence to what I say. Muhammad has none. Furthermore I never asked anyone to do anything immoral and unethical, but Muhammad did plenty of that. I never said anyone should follow me and I am the best of the creation. Muhammad did. I have no claims,Muhammad had humongous ones.

  465. excelsior says:

    Narcole,
                   You and your ilk love at pointing out grammatical mistakes by Ali Sina, but have committed the same! 

    "Ur talking with same person again? Anyway i said im busy. keep ur comments awhile okay  ur funny comments distract my focus  …wait, i knew you would comment when reading this. Just hold on. Patient   "

    The last part in the above should be "be patient" or "have patience" !

  466. excelsior says:

    Narcole,
                    Suits you fine, though!

  467. excelsior says:

    Narcole,
    DON'T DIGRESS from the topic, yawn, feel sleepy or therwise refer to some previously written comments!

  468. Ali Sina says:

    @Gendus
    I am sorry that you don’t understand but it is simple. It is actually stupid simple. The Quran is the word of Muhammad. He made a lot of false claims there. He provided no proof for those claims. He expected people to believe him or threatened them with violence and his bogus hell. His own words cannot be proof to his claim. This is like a criminal claiming to be a holy man. Would you believe him?
    On the other hands we can use his words to incriminate him. We can show his lies and prove he was a charlatan.
    If I tell my followers kill people and steal their wealth, enslave their wives and rape their children because I am a holy man. My followers can’t use my claim of holiness as evidence in my favor, but others can use all my vile teaching to prove I am an evil man.
    Is that now clear? How can Muslims be boggled by such simple things? If Muslims start using their brain when they think none will remain a Muslim

  469. excelsior says:

    A Hindu may or may not wash his face with cow's urine, but Mo advising his followers to drink CAMEL'S URINE surely takes the biscuit!

  470. Sakat says:

    @narcole ,You have big problem baby he don't,you have dragged a genius upon you.

  471. Sakat says:

    @Chuck
    !!! ROFALMAO!!!, i think she is some school going kid ,she don't know what she is saying ,look at her plight ,searching for shampoo hahaha.Well done

  472. narcole1919721 says:

    Yes or not, so whats ur problem? 🙁

  473. narcole1919721 says:

    I did say i hav a life busy and no time. Look who keep replying O.o what do u do? is spamming this site ur job? How much u get paid?

  474. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    You are a flirt looking here for someone who will inject some pep into your bored life. Really there are no better clowns and fools than muhammadans.

  475. chuck says:

    @narcole1919721, //my posts were really clear. Its just ur mind which isnt clear. //
    Well, you didn't say yes or no. You just said it was taqdir. Then you dragged in some stuff about Shias which I am not even refering to!! On being asked whether you can provide some Shahi hadith you could provide none. Guess what you are lying.

    //Go buy shampoo. //
    So thats the Islamic way os cleansing the mind. i should have guessed. I only use shampoo for hair.

  476. narcole1919721 says:

    Helloh? i did say i already explained this in other thread. stop repeating same questions. x.x

  477. narcole1919721 says:

    Thats what brought me here. I cnt flirt with him since we are aware its sin. and i refuse engagement. he said he needs at least a year or more for nikah. So i let him work and he let me study manage business and have fun here with clowns. better than suspicious cheating secretly. Its in public. So get used to it 🙂 oh this site is for laugh. im here to laugh how fool the muhammadans term creator.

  478. narcole1919721 says:

    My dear, my posts were really clear. Its just ur mind which isnt clear. Go buy shampoo.

  479. narcole1919721 says:

    Ali sina doesnt know you, so stop acting like his assistant 🙂

  480. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Dear Bharat this is not true, today I was here due to Ali Sina who spread the light and make a platform where everyone can share his opinion, before march-2013 I was used to think no one can leave Islam because there is no way but in Mach-2013 I read and analyze that what is wrong and what is right in our life and what Quran is really valuable for us or not and after that I realize all holy books is nothing, only for entertainment, they will also come on the path of Humanity and leave the Islam.

  481. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Dear Gendus Brother,

    No one is believing in Ali Sina and Ali sine not claiming that he is prophet he is only pointing false that is in Islam you can also point all religion you are free but see other religion is changing with time like when Christianity enter in Europe the life of Europeans became hard and hard why due to its hard rule that not fit in the life of all people now they are following the rules but all those rules that are against humanism they left they never talk about that, their pope never pointing such things among the people that you have to follow strictly but in Islam you see what is going on goodness is hidden and bad is in power, today you see how many Fatwas are issuing by our scholar they are also against another scholar, Mullah is most powerful in Islamic Society, they are the main cause of Illiteracy, Poverty of  Muslims.  But like you people you support them but not tell a word against them because you know if you say something against them they will charge profanity against you, and after that what will happen with you and your family everyone know because this is bitter and universal truth of Islam. 

  482. Bharat says:

    Relevant knowledge like the Taliban and Al Quaida have? The verses are very clear and so also the actions of  those who practice them.

  483. Bharat says:

    The blind cannot see when anything is shown to them. Ali Sina should not waste his time trying to convince the blind.

  484. Gendus says:

    Islam makes no difference between men and women, the rich and the poor, white or black before Allah, but their piety. 
    To beat women means just a symbolic one. We are only allowed to beat them very lightly as beating with tooth brush, not in the face, and no mark left. It is just symbolic. 

    It is obviously a misunderstanding of the quranic verse. You don't know Arabic very well, that's why you don't understand it better.

  485. Bharat says:

    Some Muslims may be helping others and try to be good, but that does not account for the large number of atrocities many Muslims commit to the shouts of Allah Hu Akbar. Muslims also normally  limit their charity to fellow Muslims(there may be exceptions) and consider Non Muslims Najis(filthy). 
    The proof that Islam is not a religion of peace is in the Quran, Hadith and in the way Islam is practiced in Islamic countries and in Non Islamic countries. Lets not talk about the constant bombings and massacres by Islamic militants if you want to close your eyes and see.

  486. Bharat says:

    Not a rational argument. Ali Sina is giving proof of your own hadith and sources. He is merely quoting Islamic sources and drawing conclusions. Of course to understand that you need a thinking normal mind.

  487. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    "The proof Islam is the religion of peace is also everywhere. Muslims are helping each other, giving charity, helping the poor, praying for everyone to get the salvation in the hereafter, love parents, respecting the elders, avoiding gambling, avoiding zina, avoiding being drunk, avoiding drugs, avoiding saying bad words, avoiding everything that is bad. "
    but why Mukhtaran Mai, Malala Yusufjai, Imrana, Shahbano & many Hindus Girls abducted by Peaceful guys peacefully and spreading peace in whole world alongwith shrine, Educational Institution by bomb missile and bullet. One side we hear about women right but another side beat her if she not hear you, not get you. These all are symptoms of peace and we have to remember this definition of peace by savant Gendus

    "So what proof do you want from Islam in order for you to believe that Islam is the religion of peace and prophet Muhammad is the messenger of Allah?"

  488. Bharat says:

    Fider,
    The Quran published in KSA, Mecca, has the following verses. The Quranic verses by themselves
    are proof of what Ali Sina is saying and they can be included under hate speech.I would urge all Muslims and Non Muslims to read them instead of just accusing Ali Sina.  Here are a few(there are many more including commentaries):
       Quran 5:51 O you who believe (Muslims)! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends(Auliya); they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you (Muslims) takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; verily Allah does not guide the unjust people(Zalimun). 
    Auliya:Friends,protectors,helpers
    Zalimun:Polytheists,wrongdoers,unjust

    Quran 9:29 Fight those who (1)believe not in Allah(2) nor in the last day(3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger(Muhammad) and (4) those who acknowledge not the religion of truth(ie Islam) among the people of the scripture(Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

     Quran 9:30 And the Jews say: Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths,resembling the saying of those who disbelieved aforetime. Allah’s curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth.

    Quran 58:14 Have you (O Muhammad) not seen those (hypocrites) who take as friends a people upon whom is the wrath of Allah(ie Jews)? They are neither of you(Muslims) nor of them(Jews), and they swear to a lie while they know.
    Quran 2:96 And verily you will find them (Jews) the greediest of mankind for life and (even greedier)than  those who ascribe partners to Allah ( and do not believe in Resurrection-Majus,pagans and idolators). Everyone of them wishes that they could be given a life of a thousand years. But the grant of such a life will not save him even a little from(due) punishment. And Allah is All-Seer of what they do.
    Quran 2:98 And indeed we have sent down to  you manifest Ayat(These verses of the Quran which inform in detail the news of the Jews and their secret intentions etc), and none disbelieve in them but the Fasiqun(Those who rebel against Allah’s command)

  489. Abdul says:

    @Gendus
    I do not believe in Ali Sina words blindly. It is my own conclusion also after reading Quran and hadith that Muhammad was a rapist, terrorist, narcissist,  mass-murderer, pedophile. Allah was ego of Muhammad. Muhammad was a sick man. 

    Quran is full of contradictions,  unscientific and illogical teachings.  That is proof Quran is authored by Muhammad (creation of human mind). Muhammad preached Quran on the name of revelations what was best suited for his purpose. Quran teachings not eternal and universal. Divine knowledge/God's knowledge (Knowledge from the God) should be eternal and universal. Quran is like history book by written by ignorant Muhammad.

  490. Gendus says:

    The proof Islam is the religion of peace is also everywhere. Muslims are helping each other, giving charity, helping the poor, praying for everyone to get the salvation in the hereafter,  love parents, respecting the elders, avoiding gambling, avoiding zina, avoiding being drunk, avoiding drugs, avoiding saying bad words, avoiding everything that is bad. 

    So what proof do you want from Islam in order for you to believe that Islam is the religion of peace and prophet Muhammad is the messenger of Allah?

  491. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Gendus,
    It depends on what you call heaven. People talk about being in heaven on earth. So was Muhammad's. His heaven was the warm bed of his just widowed cousin, Umm Hanni. The now defunct Swedish pop group AbbA, also sang "I REACHED THE SEVENTH HEAVEN WHEN I JUST KISSED THE TEACHER". While AbbA got to the seventh heaven by kissing the teacher, Muhammad did his by consoling his cousin in her warm bed.
    His claim to have gone and returned from Jerusalem in one night elicited more than skepticism. He claimed to have met allah praying. But Aisha said that whoever claimed that Muhammad saw allah was a liar.If he did not see allah, what did he go to heaven for?
    If we are to require video or photographic proof of everything, then Muhammad did not exist since there is nothing like that on him.
    On Ali Sina's sayings, the proof is everywhere. The daily acts of violence by muhammadans, who invoke allah and its creed, are more than enough evidence that Muhammad was a terrorist. He said so himself and lived it. It is the example his followers are copying.

  492. Gendus says:

    why do you believe in Ali Sina who quoted al-quran as his proof, but you don't believe prophet Muhammad who also took quran as the proof of his prophecy.. 

    Don't you realized what you are doing? 

    hahaha.. I don't understand you all.. 😀

  493. Abdul says:

    @Gendus
    Why do you asking for video? You are no more Muslim If you do not believe prophet flew to heaven, prophet met with Zibrael.

  494. Sakat says:

    Adan is Dogs favorite rap song ,they too add chorus to it ha ha ha.

  495. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Ali Sina has already found the truth. That is what he is expounding.

  496. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Your emotional instability is quite apparent. By the way, what is a muhammadan doing in an illegal relationship? You are supposed to be talking about husband instead of boyfriend which you code as 'bf'. Is your relationship not in contravention of the muhammadan "moral" code?
    This site is about religion. It is meant to and is exposing the pseudo-religion called 'islam' and better still, muhammadanism. If you consider that you are here for jokes, then you are in the wrong place.
    No, what I wrote actually made you cry because it reminded you that you will soon become a derelict once your current 'bf' drops you like the bad habit that you are.

  497. Phoenix says:

    he says how he came to be impressed with the chant of Adan '

    This reminds me of the time I was a teenager.I remember listening to Nate Dogg's chorus' on Snoops Doggystyle album and loving his gospel style of singing.But now I'm ashamed I wasted my time listening to that crap.Although Nate sang beautifully,the words of his chorus were always laden with gangbanging activities.The same goes with the Adan ,it may sound beautiful to muslims and some kafirs but it's originally a warcry.

  498. Gendus says:

    I mean, *** If I have to believe that Ali Sina is true without evidence, then you have to believe that prophet Muhammad flew to heaven.

  499. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    A perfect example of quranic/muhammadan mathematics is the inheritance formula which adds up to more than 100%. Allah is woeful in mathematics.

  500. Gendus says:

    You don't believe that prophet Muhammad flew to heaven, because there was no videos or pictures, right?
    Me too, I do not believe in what Ali Sina is saying because there is no video or pictures. 
    You I have to believe that Ali Sina is true, then you have to believe that prophet Muhammad flew to heaven. 

    Makes sense, right?

  501. chuck says:

    @narcole1919721 ,
    //Omg dnt tell me you never read hadith about this.//
    I asked you to show me a Shahi hadith where Muhammad says that the next four caliphs would be Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali respectively. if there was such an injunction there wouldn't have been ANY need to elect a leader when Muhammad died. You don't know your own Islamic history!!
    And this wasn't even my question. You aren't answering what I asked in the above post: Do you think Ali,as Caliph, was correct in his hostilities toward Aisha, Muawiya and Marwan or do you think Muawiya was right in demanding Levantine autonomy? This has nothing to do with taqdir.

    //your asking like a kindergarten student. //
    You are certainly answering like one.

    // Language teacher in this forum?// No. I guess you don't have expertise on any language including Arabic. But that doesn't concern me a bit.

  502. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Dear Abdul Brother,
    Gendus is only making fun how stupid he is that asking Video and Picture but he has not knowledge that time Video graphy is  not possible because that time all these things are not available and in Islam painting and singing & dancing all things is Haram but it is he ask such things because he only read Quran but not understand any sura only he read .

  503. Abdul says:

    @Gendus
    Bro, We have only Quran and hadith to prove Muhammad was a terrorist. Video, pictures etc. not proof in Islam? Do we have proof Muhammad fly to heaven? Any video? Do We have  proof Muhammad met with Zibrael? Any video? 

  504. Gendus says:

    Nizam, Ali Sina and you said that Muhammad was a terrorist. What the evidence of Muhammad a terrorist? Do you even know what "evidence" means?

    Do you have the video of prophet Muhammad killing people?
    Do you have the picture of prophet Muhammad killing people?
    Do you have some people who saw by their own eyes that prophet Muhammad killing people? 

    Does Quran say that "Muhammad is a terrorist"? 

  505. Abdul says:

    @narcole
    Bro, How can they marry with the killer of their husband, father and children?  Will your mother marry with me if I kill her husband, brother, children before her eyes? Will she marry? Ask to her if you are too ignorant.

  506. narcole1919721 says:

    *yawns*  i explained this in einstein islam page already. awh u guys can only copy paste same old song from same site…*sleepy* zzz

  507. narcole1919721 says:

    Why dont u marry him 😉

  508. Abdul says:

    @narcole
    Bro, Can we do sex with polytheist's women by capturing them? Brother it is not rape because Allah sanctioned sex with them. If we commit sex with the women relative of  Ali Sina's by capturing them it will be divine act in the eyes of Allah because Ali Sina is a apostate and rape with polytheists and  apostates women allowed in Islam as per divine revelation to prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

  509. Sakat says:

    That shows your IQ very well baby.

  510. Abdul says:

    Ali Sina you are best creation of Allah. 

  511. narcole1919721 says:

    I guess 100.000 is not much for him gendus. he wants something else.

  512. narcole1919721 says:

    Ali sina one day will find the truth with absolute proofs for himself only. and as he ever said before, his opinions maybe wrong. when he reveals that hes wrong, what will you do my dear? follow him or against him? 😉

  513. Sakat says:

    Firnandezz a Liar
    They don't have any remorse while doing such heinous acts ,it is not their fault they follow that criminal Mohammed in every respect.Really these are heartening things to happen on regular basis at this moment of human history.

  514. narcole1919721 says:

    Its just ur feeling, liar 😉

  515. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Dear Brother Gendus, as per your thinking nothing will prove in this world because a person not accept anything and his realizing power is zero so everything become truth that will quoted by you and everything will become false quoted by other one. 

  516. narcole1919721 says:

    Omg dnt tell me you never read hadith about this. I read this already when highschool *rolls eyes* once again, i repeat, go to majlis ta3lim with real sheikh, ask whatever. stop commenting cos in quran there ayat about people who ask alot and the questions bring troubles for themselves 🙂 oh *giggles* i knew which words you want to turn around from this. your asking like a kindergarten student.

  517. narcole1919721 says:

    It was crystal clear das sein and das sollen my dear. What am i? Language teacher in this forum? O.o

  518. narcole1919721 says:

    Truth hurts, do i know you? 😉

  519. Truth- hurts says:

    Kutu,
    He did not have a syndrome of hate. He only exposed the truth about Islam based on all its holy books.. Why should he kill anyone? Instead of being awaken, you got hurt, angry and made wild accusations.

  520. Gendus says:

    Once again I challenge Ali Sina to bring us the valid evidence that prophet Muhammad was a terrorist and the 9/11 was the responsibility of Muslims. 

    If he can bring us the evidence, I will reward him 100.000

  521. Gendus says:

    Nizamuddin, == you haven't given the evidence yet. The Koran is not the evidence that prophet Muhammad was a terrorist. 
    The Koran says that prophet Muhammad is the last messenger of God.

    The quranic verses you gave us should be interpreted within the context of the place and time.

     

  522. chuck says:

    @narcole1919721
    //You are asking very simple questions. //
    Yet you aren't answering it. I didn't ask about Abu Bakr. The question only needed a 'Yes' or 'No'.  Do you think Ali,as Caliph, was correct in his hostilities toward Aisha, Muawiya and Marwan or do you think Muawiya was right in demanding Levantine autonomy?

    //prophet already told that after him the caliph would abu bakar, then omar, uthman and 3ali. //
    Any Shahi hadith that says these? Now you are lying about Muhammad.

  523. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    "but as long as you do good and avoid badness, and make azam to seek the truth, never stop until you find it and get HIGHEST satisfaction."

    An endeavor at which you yourself are utterly failing, narcole!

  524. chuck says:

    @narcole1919721,
    //I wanna hear ur dajjal translation and correct wrong translation. //
    That translation is from Yusuf Ali. You want to say Yusuf Ali is a Dajjal. As far as I understand his Arabic and his English might both be superior to yours.

    //Such languages have lots of flaws.//
    Signs of Allah you said, right? So that proves these signs of Allah have lots of flaw.. nudge, wink.

  525. Sakat says:

    Kutu =Narcole .

  526. narcole1919721 says:

    Dear nizam, continue your search and always keep ur mind and heart clean. About ur choice, its ur life. but as long as you do good and avoid badness, and make azam to seek the truth, never stop until you find it and get HIGHEST satisfaction.

  527. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    well well…. Ali Sina has made claims against Muhammad and Islam that Muslims don't like. But since you don't have anything to disprove his claims, you are accusing him of hatred against people!

    Do you not hate an ideology that makes its followers kill innocents? Do you not hate an ideology that brainwashes its followers so well that they do not even condemn the evil acts of devout Muslims for fear that they may end up condemning something that is fully Islamic.

    Devout Muslims killed two dozen children yesterday simply because the kids wanted to study for a good future! So what if someone hates such devout Muslims?? If those Muslim had killed your children, what would you like to see us do? Honour those terrorists with flower garlands??

  528. Sakat says:

    Oh!!! Psychic.

  529. narcole1919721 says:

    Hehehe…i knew you 😉

  530. narcole1919721 says:

    Not in ur quran 🙂

  531. Kutu says:

    Hi, Ali Sina. 

    My names is Kutu from Indonesia.
    I have read all your books and other articles regarding Islam. I have studied them all and have understood them all. I can understand how much you hate Islam. It seems like AS IF you want to kill all muslims in the world. I can get it from the tone of your writing from the start to the end of your books. 

    But I'm so sorry, I don't like to be one of your followers to help you spread hatred. We can understand someone's psychology just from the tone of his writing. I can say, you don't really  have good intention but to satisfy your hate which has grown so mature in your heart. You need to feed it till it feels very full. 

    Those who believe in everything you said seems to me to have been brainwashed by your skillful way of brainwashing. It can be said that you are almost successful implanting the seed of hate in your followers' heart. It is clear when they would always stand on your side even if you made a fatal mistake with your assumption about Islam.

    I did not read the original text you edited as someone here has protested. But I can understand from the original quote he posted on his comment. I agree with him (Firnandez) that your assumption about Islam is a mere opinion without any valid evidence. But your followers here keep believing in you. I guess (AS YOU HAVE GUESSED WHAT MUHAMMAD WAS) that you have a syndrome of hate in your hate plus the syndrome of brainwashing. I call you a savant of hate and brainwashing. 

    Congrats to you for being called a SAVANT. I hope you like it. 

  532. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    In this entire thread I only used one username and that is 'Firnandezz a Liar'! What other usernames do you believe I used??

  533. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    It is apparent that you want to keep your head buried in the sand. In that case no one can make you see the light. I just hope you don't end up getting treated by your bf/husband (and even other muslim men) the way Quran tells men to treat women.

  534. narcole1919721 says:

    Ur talking with same person again? Anyway i said im busy. keep ur comments awhile okay 😉 ur funny comments distract my focus 🙁 …wait, i knew you would comment when reading this. Just hold on. Patient 🙂 

  535. narcole1919721 says:

    Oh proverb? just proverb. *shakes head* you dont know his miracles 🙂

  536. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Dear Marcole and All who defending The Holy Quran and Muhammad, I think you all know the truth but due to social boycott you all are not accepting this bitter truth because your thought show this. This you all know about human body components, and so many things and there scientific reason that is not match to our any religious holy books but all of us try to prove that my religion is good all of us who is here should boycott religion and be humanist.
    @Gendus You Challenged me yesterday to prove his terror I've give you the evidence and as per your definition you try to keep all the point and judge that comes or not by heart & think all guys how much helpful to human society.

  537. narcole1919721 says:

    My dear you know very little about this world. read more okay, iqra2 😉

  538. narcole1919721 says:

    My dear, arabic please. English is so ambiguous 🙂

  539. narcole1919721 says:

    Many. For example ur usernames 😉

  540. narcole1919721 says:

    Prophet already explained how to 😉 go to majlis ta3lim 🙂

  541. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Evidence please! What have I lied about??

  542. narcole1919721 says:

    *shakes head* its you who fail to understand. i understand well 🙂

  543. narcole1919721 says:

    Well i know pretty well ur a liar 😉

  544. Sakat says:

    I-HATE-ISLAM

    Your assessment is true brother ,she is lonely dreamer (pervert).

  545. Sakat says:

    I-HATE-ISLAM

    Your assessment is true brother ,she is lonely dreamer (pervert).

  546. Sakat says:

    We know very well the miracles of your Prophet ,there is a proverb which runs like this " If the mountain don't come unto Mohammed ;Mohammed will walk unto it". Do you know his stupidity knew no bounds ha ha ha.

  547. Sakat says:

    Baby you know non-Muslims are not allowed to enter Mecca and Medina ,there are big hoardings about these at the out skirts of both these cities.Poor knowledge it seems your IQ has rusted.

  548. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    "ambiguous words"?? There are ambiguous words in the Quran?? Here is what Quran 2:2 say-

    Mufti Taqi Usmani : "This Book has no doubt in it – a guidance for the God-fearing"
    (Source: http://quranexplorer.com/index/Sura_002_Al_Baqara

    In case you don't know, "no doubt" means no ambiguity! So when you say things different from what the Quran says, you get deep into blasphemy territory girl !

  549. Sakat says:

    Irrelevent!!!!

  550. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    No I didn't forget! If I go to the sheikh of your sect, of course he is going to say that his sect is the 'right' sect! But guess what? If I go talk to the sheikh of any of the other 72 sects, they too are going to say that their sect is the 'right' one!!!

    Do you see how spectacularly Quran and hadiths fail to help find the 'right' sect??

    So there is a new very important question now- How do you know you are in the 'right' sect?? If you ask your own sheikh, of course he is going to say his sect is the right one!

  551. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Well, then you know pretty well what I am saying about Muhammad and Allah 😉

  552. narcole1919721 says:

    Please stop joking. im afraid to laugh too much ^^''

  553. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol dear, i wasnt talking about exorcism. I was talking about real sheikh who could supervise the student and correct him when he misunderstands ambiguous words 🙂

  554. narcole1919721 says:

    Man, you need a help.

  555. narcole1919721 says:

    Hello? ur question was, how to find right section, did you forget? :p

  556. narcole1919721 says:

    Hehehe..i already took psychology major, economics an also education 😉

  557. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    "when heart and mind are clean, hidayah will enter smoothly and du3a will be granted smoothly too"

    Believe it or not but if you do dua to any god with a clear heart and mind, chances are high that it will be granted.

    You don't believe me? Try it out! Next time you take an exam at school, pray to a god other than Allah and see if you pass the exam or not. All you have to do is to pray with a clear heart and mind, and study well!

    Of course if you ever study psychology, you will realize that the dua usually gets filled not because it was offered to a certain god, but because it brings emotional calm and strength to the person offering the dua. It does NOT matter which god you offer the dua to!

  558. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    " insha Allah everything will be granted if you make du3a in decent way. After doing du3a, dont su2uzhon by saying god didnt answer soon, the du3a will be rejected."

    lol… such description of Allah makes him look like a tyrant who cares most about whether or not the person was humble enough to him or not, than about anything else! I suggest you study psychology at school. It will not take you long to realize that it was Muhammad who was a narcissist and that Allah is simply his mirror image!

  559. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    I'll give you another example- You must have heard the story of Jesus where a woman was accused of being an adulteress. There were people full of anger, grudge and other heart diseases who were about to stone her to death. They asked Jesus for his opinion and he said "He who has never sinned, let him throw the first stone!" There is a true message hidden in that statement, and even those with low IQ can easily know what that message is! Even those full of heart diseases immediately knew what that message was. Needless to say, it didn't take any more than ten seconds for everyone there to realize that they were about to do something wrong! Not one stone was thrown at the woman and she was spared.

    So once again- heart diseases, jealousy, fitnah, ghibah, this, that…. these are all excuses that mullahs make when they want us to believe in crap that is not true!

  560. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Let me guess, even if I do this weird ritual, I still do need some powerful sheikh to keep shaitan away, right? Allah's Quran is not gonna be able to do it, as you previously explained!

    You know, if Quran is really a message of truth, I really shouldn't have to perform any weird rituals. Let me give you an example-

    Let's say I am one of those people who have never been to school and I believe Earth to be flat. One day I accidently come across a physicist, and on that day I happen to be full of jealousy, cockiness, fitnah, grude and all kind of other heart diseases.

    Do you think that the physicist can prove to me that Earth is spherical?? You bet he can! No matter how many objections I raise, he can answer them all leaving me with no doubt but to see that Earth is spherical. He can do this because this claim is the truth!! Heart diseases, jealousy, fitnah, ghibah, this, that…. these are all excuses that mullahs make when they want us to believe in crap that is not true!

  561. narcole1919721 says:

    Why suddenly talk about making love? Perve. Beastiality? Weirdo O.o

  562. narcole1919721 says:

    Its true that im emotional especially on period, and i been avoiding my bf cos didnt want to ruin what i built when emotional. Thank god finally he permitted me to talk in forum again. and i dont think this forum is about religion. its just about jokes and clowns, like you. your posts tickled me n tempted me to smile and laugh cos of ur ignorance. So thanks, for the entertainment 🙂

  563. narcole1919721 says:

    You are asking very simple questions. X') prophet already told that after him the caliph would abu bakar, then omar, uthman and 3ali. Thats taqdir. if shiite says ali was worthier as the first and the only, its just about das sein das sollen. about ibn saba' read rijalul kashish, tanqihul maqal, al maqalat wal firaq, firaqus shiah, raudhatus safa, al kafiy, syarhul azar. im busy, enjoy ur real search 🙂

  564. narcole1919721 says:

    First of all, you have to repent from previous sins, its called taubat nasuha. after taubat, make azam, you wont repeat the sins. Clean ur heart and mind from heart diseases, like jealous, cocky, su2u zhon,  fitnah, ghibah namimah grudge etc. when heart and mind are clean, hidayah will enter smoothly and du3a will be granted smoothly too, thats when you make du3a, so that god shows shirathal mustaqim.  insha Allah everything will be granted if you make du3a in decent way. After doing du3a, dont su2uzhon by saying god didnt answer soon, the du3a will be rejected. Husn zhon about Allah, and he'll act like the zhon.

  565. narcole1919721 says:

    Oh do u know the next ayat? fa man yakfur bith thaaghuuti wa yu2min billaahi, fa qadistamsaka bil 3urwatil wutsqaa lan fishaama lahaa, wallahu samii3un 3aliim. I wanna hear ur dajjal translation and correct wrong translation. tsk tsk, this is why quran not in english nor farsi. Such languages have lots of flaws.

  566. narcole1919721 says:

    You mean, you cant even understand something below apes intelligence? What are you, amoeba?:o

  567. chuck says:

    @narcole1919721,
    //Qad tabayyanar rushdu mina al ghayyi//

    Quoting from Q 2:256. Which truth are you referring to that stands out from error? Talking about the 73 sects, what determines who is correct? Chances are they are all wrong. About the Shia – Sunni debate, the last time I enquired about Ibn Saba you started talking rubbish. So, now I ask a separate question. Do you think Ali,as Caliph, was correct in his hostilities toward Aisha, Muawiya and Marwan or do you think Muawiya was right in demanding Levantine autonomy?

  568. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Correction:
    Muslims just never cease to amaze me!!

  569. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Where in the Quran or sahih hadith does it say that I have to read it with the sheikh???

    If I read the kitab all by my myself, Shaitan will show up to be my sheikh, and the all powerful Allah (whose kitab I am reading) can't shoo him away!! And the moment some stinking sheikh shows up, the shaitan runs off with his tail in his legs!! So you are telling me that sheikhs are so powerful that they can keep The Shaitan away from the Quran and the talib !! And if the sheikh is not around then the Quran (all powerful Allah's message) is nothing but a helpless scaredy lamb who cannot dare protect from shaitan the very person who is sincerely trying to understand the message!!

    Muslims just never seem to amaze me!!

    And even if I do decide to go to a sheikh, which sect's sheikh should I go to?? Which sect understands Islam most correctly?? How do I know which sect's high sheikhs were the most sincere when trying to understand Islam?? Which sect's sheikhs had the adequate IQ to understand Quran correctly??

  570. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Firnanadezz,
    Re-read your post and then determine who between you and Dr. Ali Sina is mentally ill and a moron.

  571. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Since your insecurity has become too pronounced, it is necessary to let you know that making love to you is as horrible as bestiality. It is unthinkable. I believe you pretend to derive some self esteem floating on this site.That will not help you. Better get a man in your life.That is what you desperately need.

  572. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Why would anyone waste his/her precious time learning a language which is below the intelligence of apes?

  573. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Another evidence of emotional instability.

  574. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    The phrase 'easy to understand' means even someone dim can understand what is being said. For example when the sages say "Do not be hurtful to animals", one doesn't need to be an Einstein to understand what is being said! But the Quran is clearly so difficult to understand that even high mullahs ended up with 73 plus different understandings of Quran !!

    Secondly, it is Allah (if he really is true God) who gave us whatever amount of intelligence we have. If a human ends up understanding Quran incorrectly (despite his best efforts and true intentions), it would be Allah's fault for giving him/her less than adequate intelligence. It would not be the person's fault, but despite that Allah is going to dump him, and all other followers of the sect, into eternal hell!! Allah is going to eternally punish people for something that Allah himself is to blame (giving them inadequate IQ)!!! Don't you see anything wrong with this??

    May be if you actually use a little bit of your brain, you will realize that the Quran is not from the real God in the first place!

  575. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Every muhammadan performs the hajj openly. The shiites perform the hajj openly like you did and like you they are muhammadans. Only non muhammadans perform the pilgrimage secretly according to you.
    I am convinced that your lack of decorum in a public forum like this stem from the fact that your are a frustrated old maid who has been passed over many times. If you had a man in your life, your emotional outbursts would have been brought under control.
    That frustration has affected your ability to think right. No wonder you feel that women are too emotional to lead. That is a reflection of your instability.

  576. narcole1919721 says:

    Lololol its not difficult at all. Qad tabayyanar rushdu mina al ghayyi. 😉 go to majlis ta3lim with real sheikh. dont read kitab alone, cos the sheikh will be shaitan if ur alone. im busy for now. be patient for next questions 🙂

  577. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    You have no capacity to teach me anything.

  578. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Dr. Ali,
    I think there is a mistake here. Actually Firnandez a Liar is with us and defends your position against undeserved attacks by Firnanadez. The latter was the one who chose to dwell on what is now regarded as a mistake while the former feels that the attack negates the substance of your comment.
    "Firnandez a Liar is on our side.

  579. narcole1919721 says:

    Im here for the sections specification, take it  😉 

  580. narcole1919721 says:

    It claims its easy to understand for those who have intelligence. So its difficult to u cos u havent intelligence, or maybe too low. So its correct x')

  581. narcole1919721 says:

    But u just created new sect, new shiite, new ali, with his editable kitab 😉

  582. narcole1919721 says:

    You have brain with low iq x'D

  583. narcole1919721 says:

    Repeat, no muhammadan term in those three qurans. u studied nothing :p

  584. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    So your sect is the correct one narcole? And the other 72 sects are wrong, even though they believe they are the correct one!

    The mullahs of those sects did their best to understand the message of Islam, just like the mullahs of your sect did. Is it really their fault that Quran is so difficult to correctly understand that everyone ends up understanding it differently??

    The fault lies with the Quran (since it is very difficult to correctly understand it), yet it is the followers of those other sects who will be receiving the punishment!! Don't you see something seriously wrong here? Why would a true God punish them when they did their best to understand it correctly? Despite their best intentions and total trust in Allah, they are going up in eternal hell !! Do you seriously not see anything wrong in this picture??

    How do you know that the high mullahs in your sect did correctly understand Quran? Are you sure they didn't make mistakes despite their best intentions to understand it (just like mullahs of those other sects)? Because if your sect incorrectly understands Islam, you may be in big big trouble….

  585. Ali Sina says:

    "In order to figure out whether Ali Sina's teachings are good or not, all we have to do is put our brain to work and imagine a society where majority of people are influenced by his teachings."

    What teachings? I am not teaching anything. I am giving an opinion, which may not be correct. The only thing I am urging others to do is to use their own brain and find their own light. And this too is not a new teaching.

  586. narcole1919721 says:

    Ur talking to same person pfft

  587. narcole1919721 says:

    Read in arabic lol they cant read arabic. Their english deceiving pfft

  588. Ali Sina says:

    "someone a Muslim" is redundant. "a Muslim" already implies someone. The extra word does not change the meaning of the sentence, It just makes it incorrect and confusing. That is why Firnandez was confused. It is not that he understood something different from what I said. He just did not understand the sentence and brought it up, assuming it may mean something incriminating. In other words Muslims cling to any straw in the hope to discredit me.

  589. narcole1919721 says:

    How could you represent ali sina? A wanna be 😉

  590. narcole1919721 says:

    Good job 😉

  591. narcole1919721 says:

    Which quran? 😉 mr ali. I see ur lovers here. Most gays pfft. alis fanatic fans. ur creating new shiite and ur acting as if ur a new prophet. May i see ur miracles? ur fans eager to know too…oh ur new kitab has errors aw…new prophet 🙁

  592. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol i recently just accidentally read it AGAIN in quran. How couldnt you find any? tsk tsk. i pitty ur knowledge only from copy pasting…just admit you never read 😉 let us laugh for ur ignorance x )

  593. narcole1919721 says:

    *feels really sad for you* dear..one of prophet miracles…he already knew and already told this. This is why shiite arent prophets follower, nor ali followers, they abandon his messages and dont folllow  his sunnah. read more okay. :'/

  594. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Fider,
    I have studied muhammadanism on my own. I have two version of the quran in hard copies and not less than three as e-books. I have the complete set of Bukhari, Muslim, Tafsir, some selected quotations of Alli, the history of Muhammad by various authors and many other muhammadan literature. From what I have read so far coupled with my experiences, there is nothing to counter the position of Dr Sina. On my own I have judged muhammadanism and found it to be even worse than Dr Sina has described.

  595. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Dr. Ali Sina,
    I still do not see what you did wrong to merit altering a sentence and then going on to explain that there was a mistake. I stand by your original statement that no day passes without someone muhammadan killing an innocent person. They may deny it but they pay zakat ostensibly for charity but which funds terrorism. Isn't that indirect killing? With all the zakat money there still are many destitute muhammadans. This means that the money goes somewhere else.
    Every muhammadan is a potential terrorist. It is only a matter of time and opportunity. The amiable look of some of them is taqiyya which was not invented by you.
    Yesterday 30 students were killed again in a school boarding house by jihadists. in north eastern Nigeria. Where does the money come from to purchase the arms?
    Please stop further explanation. You owe no body.Whoever wants to dwell on that is free to do so.

  596. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    We are human beings. We have been blessed with a brain. We are prone to mistakes/deceptions but overall we can tell (in advance) whether a certain teaching is good (for individuals and society) or not. We can also tell when a certain teaching is evil.

    That Islam is a evil teaching is apparent from looking at what goes on in Muslim-majority societies, and their overall condition.

    In order to figure out whether Ali Sina's teachings are good or not, all we have to do is put our brain to work and imagine a society where majority of people are influenced by his teachings. When I did so, it didn't take long to realize that such a society will be fairly advanced spiritually and that most people will be happy with their lives.

  597. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Firnandez a Liar,
    AWESOME.

  598. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Talking of 'interpretations of Koran', verse Q 3:7 says that wise followers are those who accept the verses as they are. It also says that those searching for its interpretation are seeking discord and there is perversity in their hearts. Those who accept verses as they are – the Quran praises them by calling them "firmly grounded in knowledge", and "men of understanding". Here is Quran 3:7-

    Yusuf Ali : "He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: in it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are not of well-established meaning. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is not of well-established meaning. Seeking discord, and searching for its interpretation, but no one knows its true meanings except Allah, and those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in it; the whole of it is from our Lord"; and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding."

  599. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    The Quran says it is 'easy to understand' (Q 54:17), and 'explained in detail' (Q 6:55). You on the other hand say that a person has to have a whole lot of other knowledge before one can understand what the Quran is saying! So what I want to know is-

    Do you know more about the Quran, or does Quran (revealed by Allah) knows more about the Quran???

  600. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    If you want to keep your head buried in sand regarding Muhammad's lies, what can Ali do??

    Pray to God (the real one, not Mo's) that you don't ever end up at the receiving end of devout Muslims, because then everything Ali says will suddenly make perfect sense !

  601. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    The article, and the cartoon strip, are fully referenced to reliable Hadiths like Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim! Now don't tell me you don't respect the Sahih hadiths

  602. Ali Sina says:

    Everything in that sentence is correct. The word "someone" had to be deleted. The corrected sentence is the same without the word "someone"

    I see you have run out of thing to say. I showed Muslims become terrorist when they follow their prophet. You asked for evidence, I provided it from the Quran. No response from you there, But all you can do is pick on an error I made in a sentence structure.

  603. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Read the Sahih hadith! You will get your proof!!

  604. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Talking about sects is a distraction from the topic. The topic is Muhammad. If you believe in Muhammad as messenger of God then the articles on this site are for you to read, no matter what sect you belong to!
    Secondly, the fact that there are so many sects in Islam proves that Quran is difficult to understand and interpret. Otherwise why would there be so many different interpretations each claiming to be the correct one!

    The Quran is difficult to understand even though it claims to be easy to understand. So right there the Quran is proven false… lol !!!

  605. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Ali Sina made a mistake in his sentence. Even then everyone knew what he really meant to say. well… everyone except people specifically looking to cause trouble!

    When the mistake was caught Ali edited it and admitted that he corrected a mistake. Ali is not claiming to "reveal verses sent by God". He is a regular person who sometimes makes mistakes while writing. When you read his articles/comments, you have to take in the spirit/essence of what he is saying rather than blindly reading like a zombie. You cannot judge him from a few written mistakes.

    It was Muhammad who claimed that verses were revealed to him by God! It is from God we expect no mistakes/error anywhere. On top of that, Muslims claim that Quran has never been changed in 1400 years. For this reason therefore, it is Muhammad and Quran who can/should be judged for the tiniest of errors!

  606. Sakat says:

    You are talking about non -Muslim and there is no specific thing about non -Muslims doing hajj in your scriptures ,how you describes it ( i mean which Hadit speaks about non-Muslim doing hajj and, what is there status)

  607. Sakat says:

    Ali Sina do not requires inputs from us, he is well aware about your cult and,we salute him for making us alert about the real Islam ha ha ha.

  608. Terror-manual says:

    Fider, 
    The people in the ME n Pakistan had the best interpretations of yr holy book, and yet they cannot co-exist but kill each other mercilessly with guns, bombs n missiles. The best way the infidels can help is to sell them weapons, making huge profits n let them exterminate each other till Doomsday. Are u happy with that?  Wahahahaha !

  609. narcole1919721 says:

    Lololol u really dont seem to know numerology n quran. it has codes. to reveal the meaning of these numbers you need higher level and should master math. now u dont understand math language either. Tsk tsk. Your iq is a nightmare. numbers in my username enough to answer. Use ur aqal okay.  good luck.

  610. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Prove me wrong.

  611. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721
    What did those who performed secretly stand to gain? Since muhammadans perform hajj openly, anyone who does so secretly is not discharging the religious obligation. It cannot be called pilgrimage. So the fact still remains that only muhammadans, no matter the shade, perform the hajj.The shiites are muhammadans that is why they are not excluded from the hajj. Look for something more sensible to say.

  612. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Now it is beyond any doubt that your iq is really zero if not below zero. What I said means that there is no difference between any of the sects of muhammadanism. They are all the same.

  613. narcole1919721 says:

    This is why  quran repeats many times about people who have intelligence. come back again when ur intelligence increases, dear 🙂 oh btw i might be busy tomorrow, so hold ur questions or u may ask other muslims here who have intelligence when im away. Ciao.

  614. narcole1919721 says:

    Back to intelligence again. i wasnt a nonmoslem. Why should i do it secretly? Tsk tsk

  615. narcole1919721 says:

    Who was talking about 6 in 12? I was talking about 1 in 73 which explains my username 721 🙂

  616. Fider says:

    Tafsir is not really a personal opinion. Your opinion should be based on relevant knowledge.  It's not really subjective. 

    I'm sure Ali Sina does not have that special knowledge required to intrepret the Koran. 

  617. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    There goes the usual denial and blame game. It means muhammadans are stupid and materialistic to accept soiling their religion for money.

  618. Firnandezz says:

    Ali Sina,

    You wrote //"There is not a day that someone a Muslim"// but did not continue write the complete sentence. 

    Here again the complete sentence:
    "There is not a day that someone a Muslim does not kill some innocent people in the name of Allah fully expecting to be rewarded by him."  
    this sentence makes perfect sense. 
    If without ellipsis it would be "There is not a day that someone [who is] a Muslim does not kill some innocent people in the name of Allah fully expectation to be rewarded by him".
    There is nothing ungrammatical in that sentence, but why did you need to correct it and changed the word 'someone' into 'some Muslims'

    Don't you think they are different? 

  619. narcole1919721 says:

    Its just ur feeling 🙂

  620. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Actually it is thumps down.

  621. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    But allah said that no one should interpret the quran because it is simple to understand. Tafsirs are personal opinions regardless of who the commentator is.

  622. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Do you require good intelligence to recognize a lie? Allah lied that the quran is simple to understand and you are here talking about 'good intelligence'. Explain why allah lied.

  623. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Is the hajj or umrah supposed to be performed secretly? When you drank the zamzam water did you perform the pilgrimage secretly?

  624. narcole1919721 says:

    Tell that to mr ali sina *pokes*

  625. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721'
    "YOU DONT KNOW ME, MEANS YOU DONT KNOW MY ISLAM SECTION-". There is no difference between six and half a dozen.

  626. narcole1919721 says:

    Every person born in fitrah. Hadith and john lock empirist proved it. No one born gay 🙂 nor moslem nor christian nor jew nor hindu nor budha. Its the parents and environment who shape the person 🙂

  627. Sakat says:

    A deen cannot be called pure ,if it contained a single bad things/words in its sermons.Even if it had 1000 good things ,a single bad thing will vitiates its sanctity ,and Islam contain almost 99% evil things/violence ,you want to concentrate us on i% good things ,what about that 99% which your fellow brethren following religiously in many parts of the world.

  628. narcole1919721 says:

    But god and his prophet didnt officially accept them. Clearly written its rafidhah in quran 🙂  

  629. narcole1919721 says:

    They worked and did umrah/hajj secretly for various purposes. I did tell, some told that they disguised as moslems. Clear enough? 🙂

  630. Sakat says:

    That is your concern ,because they belong to the family of Ali,the cruel son- in -law of Mad Mohammed.

  631. narcole1919721 says:

    For those who have intelligence..tsk tsk. Damn, you have problem with it. You dont understand any simple word in any language 🙁

  632. narcole1919721 says:

    For people who have good intelligence 🙂 have you? 🙁

  633. narcole1919721 says:

    Two thumbs up 

  634. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Fider,
    "-AL-QURAN IS THE PERFECT BOOK-". The perfect example of asininity. Since you require special knowledge to understand it like Einstein's writing, why did allah lie that it is simple to understand?

  635. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Somewhere you asked if I am gay. No. I am not. I am married to one of the most beautiful and dutiful women on earth who has given me very lovely kids. One could not have asked for more from GOD. But I have nothing against any body for his/her sexual orientation which the individual had no choice in.He/she was created that way and can do nothing about it. What I object to is somebody dangling something before me, be it gay, heterosexuality, wealth or muhammadanism. That is where I differ from those who go about flaunting their sexual orientation publicly. Such matters are very private. So, nobody should be discriminated against on the basis of what he/she was born with.

  636. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721
    I wish there was one against muhammadanism. I do not hate the muhammadan who is simply misguided. I pity him.

  637. Fider says:

    The words of Allah cannot be liken to the words of humans which are not perfect. Al-quran is the perfect book and it has the perfect language of Arabic. If you can't interpret it correctly, it's not because the Koran is wrong but it's you who cannot understand it. 

    Consider, when you are given the book of a scientist, let say, Einstein. You are to learn the theory of relativism. It requires you to have some required field of knowledge in order to understand it. It's not like reading comics where no special knowledge is needed. Children can too read comics.

  638. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    You did not show how a non muhammadan can perform the hajj. You talked about people going to Mecca to work. These are two different things. Hajj is 'religious' while work is economic. Iran is officially known as the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN. There is no separation od state from the mosque.

  639. Fider says:

    Bharat, 

    How do you know that Ali Sina is bringing the truth? Can you prove that  everything Ali Sina wrote is the truth? How do measure the truth he told you with the "truth condition"? What Ali Sina is doing is just guessing and judging. He did not give us the any reasonable proof of anything. 

    Don't listen to Ali Sina, but study Islam by yourself. Thn you can judge it without without the influence of others.

  640. Sakat says:

    People belong to your cult, follower of Mad Mohammed.

  641. Bharat says:

    Actually no one believes a Muslim and even less when they promise to pay!

  642. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    They are not even good enough for the primates. I do have an option and that is to reject it as being worthless.

  643. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Fider,
    If the quran requires 'requires special knowledge' for its understanding, then whoever authored it must be very stupid to place what he/it said was for the benefit of mankind beyond his reach. The filthy thing should be withdrawn from circulation. In any case, did allah not copiously say that it is simple to understand? It lied again as usual.

  644. Fider says:

    Nizamuddin, you cannot interpret the Koran without having any relevant knowledeg. You can interpret it only when you have relevant knowledge. You have to first learn a lot of required knowledge like 'asbabunnuzul', linguistic relativity, linguistic universal, contrastive rhetoric, morphosyntax, semantic, pragmatig,  as well as sociolinguistic and the sociology of language.  

    Have you studied all of these fields of knowledge? If not, then your interpretation of the holy Koran cannot be trusted. 

  645. Bharat says:

    Ali Sina is performing a great service to all of mankind and animals too. He is doing this at a great personal sacrifice and I am sure God will be very happy with him for bringing the TRUTH to light.For it is the truth that will set us free. Animals too  benefit when Muslim cruelty to animals is also reduced when Islam is eliminated from the face of the earth
    As Einstein said of Nazism" people of a later generation will scarcely  believe that such an evil ideology existed". The same is true of Islam. One can scarcely believe that any sane person can actually follow a polygamous  pedophile Prophet and in an irrational terror manual like the Quran. Meanwhile Islamic terror has struck in Nigeria and in Bodhgaya(India).
    These attacks on peaceful human beings  to the shout of Allah Hu Akbar  will continue till Islam dies a natural death when it is exposed. Ali Sina is playing a great role in exposing the truth of Islam.

  646. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Tabari 17:187  "'By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.' And they returned to their former religion."  The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah.  The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 327: – “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’” Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990: – Lest anyone think that cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!' is a modern creation, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve. Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: – "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."  Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid. Saifur Rahman, The Sealed Nectar p.227-228 – "Embrace Islam… If you two accept Islam, you will remain in command of your country; but if your refuse my Call, you’ve got to remember that all of your possessions are perishable. My horsemen will appropriate your land, and my Prophethood will assume preponderance over your kingship."  One of several letters from Muhammad to rulers of other countries.  The significance is that the recipients were not making war or threatening Muslims.  Their subsequent defeat and subjugation by Muhammad's armies was justified merely on the basis of their unbelief.What is the meaning of above mentioned Sura and Hadith and is it menitoned in Quran and Hadith or not? If yes what is the exact meaning of all Sura kindly explaint with meanit so each and every people will understand, but you will not give the justification from HInduims, Christian Holy Books, Jews holy books and other religious books, you have to explain all above in your word. 

  647. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Bukhari (11:626) – [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."Muslim (1:149) – "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause…"Muslim (20:4645) – "…He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"Muslim (20:4696) – "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihad died the death of a hypocrite.'"Muslim (19:4321-4323) – Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers.  His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."Muslim (19:4294) – "When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him… He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war…  When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them… If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.Tabari 7:97  The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power."  Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam.  Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill.  An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.Tabari 9:69  "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"  The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

  648. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Bukhari (52:177) – Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."Bukhari (52:256) – The Prophet… was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)."  In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy.  This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.Bukhari (52:65) – The Prophet said, 'He who fights that Allah's Word, Islam, should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause.  Muhammad's words are the basis for offensive Jihad – spreading Islam by force.  This is how it was understood by his companions, and by the terrorists of today.  Bukhari (52:220) – Allah's Apostle said… 'I have been made victorious with terror'Abu Dawud (14:2526) – The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)Abu Dawud (14:2527) – The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impiousMuslim (1:33) – the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of AllahBukhari (8:387) – Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'.  And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."Muslim (1:30) – "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."

  649. narcole1919721 says:

    And i did tell no term for muhammadan in quran 🙂

  650. narcole1919721 says:

    I did tell that just cos doing hajj doesnt mean muslim, and  i did tell government isnt related to religion.

  651. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

     Quran (47:35) – "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"   Quran (48:17) – "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom."  Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.'  Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?  This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.Quran (48:29) – "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"  Islam is not about treating everyone equally.  There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.  Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.Quran (61:4) – "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"  Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning war.  This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."  (See next verse, below).  Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.Quran (61:10-12) – "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn – Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success."  This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above).  It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.Quran (66:9) – "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end."  The root word of "Jihad" is used again here.  The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" – those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

  652. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol i told you before,  quran and hadits in arabic. you have no option but this original language. 

  653. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721
    Quotes are memorable sayings. They may or may not be in proof of something. But they remain to be remembered.

  654. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Quran (9:41) – "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."  See also the verse that follows
     (9:42) – "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them"  This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians)
    Quran (9:73) – "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."  Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter.  It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.
    Quran (9:88) – "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."
    Quran (9:111) – "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
    Quran (9:123) – "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
    Quran (17:16) – "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." 
    Quran (25:52) – "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness…"   "Strive against" is Jihad – obviously not in the personal context.  It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.
    3:60 Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City, desist not, We shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbours for any length of time:
    3:61 They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy).
    3:62 (Such was) the practice (approved) of Allah among those who lived aforetime: No change wilt thou find in the practice (approved) of Allah.
    Quran (47:3-4) – "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord.  Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude.  Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,"  Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle.  The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims.  Those who kill pass the test. "But if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost."

  655. Fider says:

    Nizamuddin, you cannot interpret the Koran without having any relevant knowledeg. You can interpret it only when you have relevant knowledge. You have to first learn a lot of required knowledge like 'asbabunnuzul', linguistic relativity, linguistic universal, contrastive rhetoric, morphosyntax, semantic, pragmatig,  as well as sociolinguistic and the sociology of language. 

    Have you studied all of these fields of knowledge? If not, then your interpretation of the holy Koran cannot be trusted. 

  656. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Those who follow Muhammad aka allah.

  657. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    This much I know that muhammadanism was founded and thrives on violence.

  658. narcole1919721 says:

    Non moslems paid them :'(

  659. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    We have been through this before and you did not explain why the Iranians perform the hajj as all muhammadans do and why no muhammadan boycotted the Teheran OIC meeting. When Khomeini spoke, he did so for all muhammadans and when his successors do the same no muhammadan distances himself from them.

  660. narcole1919721 says:

    Gay 😉

  661. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Quran (8:59-60) – "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.  Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy." Quran (8:65) – "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight…"Quran (9:5) – "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."  According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars).  This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack.  Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months).  The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat.  Once the Muslims had the power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.
    Quran (9:14) – "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace…"
    Quran (9:20) – "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."  The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad".  The context is obviously holy war.
    Quran (9:29) – "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."  "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews.  According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status.  This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years.  Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.
    Quran (9:30) – "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
    9:38 O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter.9:39 Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things. 

  662. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Quran (5:33) – "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
    Quran (8:12) – "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"  No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.
    Quran (8:15) – "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."
    Quran (8:39) – "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"  Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for  2:293, also).  The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj.  Other Muslims were allowed to travel there – just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction.  The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did).  Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition.  According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals." Quran (8:57) – "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."   

  663. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    I told you before to always use English so that one can comprehend whatever you are saying. Stop using some primitive language which will never complete the evolutionary process.

  664. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    @Gendus
    Quran (4:76) – "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
    Quran (4:89) – "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
    Quran (4:95) – "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"  This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes.  It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle.  Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption.  (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).
    Quran (4:104) – "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain…"  Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

  665. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol proof u know little about islam.

  666. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    @ Gendus
    Quran (2:216) – "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."  Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time.  From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.
    2:191 And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. 
    2:193 And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression. 
    2:244 Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things. 
    3:56 "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
    3:151 Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers!
    4:74 Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory – Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value).

  667. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Nonsense. Anybody can answer any question. This is a public forum.

  668. narcole1919721 says:

    Hes a shiite rafidhi imam. The end. never had muhammadan word on his id card.

  669. narcole1919721 says:

    Which muhammadans? 🙁

  670. narcole1919721 says:

    They who? 🙂

  671. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Gendus,
    I have no confidence in such a declaration. I have seen it before. Those who said so did not live up to their promise. They simply refused to respond again. There are many passages in the quran, hadith and sira ot conform this.
    Muhammad went to a Jewish community and asked them to convert or be expelled so that they would know that the earth belonged to allah and its prophet. Since the people refused to convert they were immediately expelled and allowed to take very little. Muhammad went on and confiscated their property, some of which he gave to his companions in crime.
    He sent one of his commanders to Najran with a large army. He gave them a 'dawa' and a 3 day ultimatum to convert or see the men wiped out.
    Tabari viii:130 "THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH SAID :'TWO RELIGIONS CANNOT COEXIST IN THE ARABIAN PENINSULA. UMAR INVESTIGATED THE MATTER, THEN SENT FOR THE JEWS, SAYING, ; 'ALLAH HAS GIVEN PERMISSION FOR YOU TO BE EXPELLED-'"
    What do you call those?

  672. narcole1919721 says:

    I guess hatred is another religion. Glad ur not in that.

  673. narcole1919721 says:

    You didnt explain the differences in each section my dear. 

  674. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol just like you thinking iran is islamic country. iran is mushrik country, like majusi and rafidhah

  675. narcole1919721 says:

    I asked you all to specify each section and explain the differences 🙂 If  you know islam well.

  676. narcole1919721 says:

    Nah. Bid3ah :p

  677. Gendus says:

    I quoted a sentence from Ali Sina, as Firnandezz has commented before ,

    'Not every Muslim is a terrorist but every true Muslim is." 

    I'm sure he has done a lot of editing. 

    "Terrorism is a way of life for all true Muslims. [Not every Muslim is a terrorist but every true Muslim is].  There is not a day that some Muslim don’t  kill some innocent people in the name of Allah, expecting to be rewarded by him. 

    The sentence in bracket is not natural. 😀 it sounds really stupid. You must have added it when you did the editing. 

    It should sound like the following:

    "Terrorism is a way of life for all XX Muslims. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  There is not a day that someone a Muslim does not kill some innocent people in the name of Allah fully expecting to be rewarded by him".

    You have all been fooled by Alji Sina. He wants fame. But he's not good at anything, he's only good at insulting and using bad words. Now, he has already been very famous for spreading hatred by insulting Islam. 

    What an excellent moron. 

  678. narcole1919721 says:

    Do you have time for sillyness? Get a life  xD

  679. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol quotes are proofs? Pffft

  680. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol thanks? now i see…u defend ali sina cos he shares the money with you?

  681. Gendus says:

    You cliamed  "He terrorized various communities into submitting to him either by using violence or the threat of violence. ". 

    Now, give the evidence for that. 
    if you can give the evidence, I'll leave Islam. 
    that's very simple. 

  682. Gendus says:

    How can you prove this:

    From the article:
    "Some of these qazwas involved the assassination of one opponent by one or a group of volunteers, and others were carried out by hundreds or thousands of warriors. Nonetheless a common characteristic of all Muhammad’s incursions was that they were done without notice. The enemy was caught off guard without being given the chance to prepare himself or be armed.  As such all Muhammad’s victims were civilians."

    Can you prove it?

  683. Gendus says:

    What, do you think this is evidence? That's just an article blaming Muhammad for what he did not do. 

    For example, suppose that someone has killed your wife, but there is no evidence that A did it.
    But you accuse A of doing it only by reading an article about it. Is it  valid evidence? 

  684. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721
    MUCH MORE THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE. He is a great man.

  685. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    oops wrong link…. here is the correct one-
    http://www.prophetmuhammadillustrated.com/muhamma

  686. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    I will go ahead and answer your questions not minding how childish they are. Boko haram issued a statement claiming responsibility. Prior to this they had asked that all schools be shut down and the pupils sent to madrassas. They are totally against any form of western education and do not understand why women should work let alone teach. It was not the first attack on an educational institution.

  687. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    The link about Muhammad a terrorist is already posted. If you already read through it, here is a bonus link – Muhammad screwed his own daughter-in-law!

    There is a 'Donate' button on the upper right section of this page. After reading the links please deposit money there. Thanks!

  688. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Gendus,
    I meant to say "SINCE YOU AGREE WITH WIKIPEDIA THAT TERRORISM INVOLVES COERCION AND MUHAMMADANISM MEANS SUBMISSION, WHAT HAPPENS TO SOMEONE WHO REFUSES TO SUBMIT-".

  689. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Fear not… your wait is all over. Here is the evidence Mo was a terrorist-
    http://www.faithfreedom.org/?page_id=49&page=

  690. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Gendus,
    This site is not ffor childish pranks. It is for serious business. Since you agree with Wikipedia and muhammadanism means coercion, what happens to somebody who refuses to submit, will he not be coerced to do so? Muhammad did that. He terrorized various communities into submitting to him either by using violence or the threat of violence. His followers built on that. Examples are too many but being a muhammadan, it is in your DNA to deny the obvious.

  691. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    now wait… I just noticed you are offering 100 for proving Mo was a terrorist, and 10000 for proving that 'muslims kill people everyday'! You value the reputation of ordinary muslims 100 times more that reputation of Muhammad!!

    OMG shirk shirk shirk…. Now you are going to have to be extra careful that no wrong kind of Muslim (eg the devout ones) find out about these posts….. because very well know what happens if they do!!

  692. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Completely irrelevant.

  693. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Forget the 9/11 attack. Right now it is your 'prophet' Muhammad's reputation that is crashing like a house of cards. You will do your prophet a great service if you concentrate on saving his image …. lol

  694. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    That is your problem. He was the muhammadan imam, scholar and leader. He was the supreme spiritual leader of Iran who is revered by every muhammadan irrespective of sect.

  695. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    All of them without exception.

  696. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    It means the followers of Muhammad. It has always and will ever be.

  697. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Here is the evidence-
    http://www.faithfreedom.org/?page_id=49&page=

  698. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Do they believe the Quran is holy book in *your* Islam??
    Do they try to live by the teachings and practices of Muhammad in *your* Islam??

    If Yes then this site is debunking your Islam… you can be sure of that!!

  699. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    When I use the words 'Islam' or 'Muslim', I only mean that sect whose followers believe Quran is holy book and try to live by the teachings and practices of Muhammad! If *your* sect meets the criteria then your sect is included!!

  700. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    No section is better than the other. They are the same. Leaving one for the other makes no difference.

  701. narcole1919721 says:

    Okay, now which category israel and lebanon are? Arab or europe? Hm?

  702. narcole1919721 says:

    I wanted to know about my islam, but not here. Ali tricked me, he wrote about other sections 🙁

  703. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    A few days ago, you posted that you can not quote every ayat in the quran and the hadiths, So it suffices if you make references to what the passage says. That applies to me. Do not expect me to quote verbatim every verse in the muhammadan literature. The import is the message conveyed.
    Your 'prophet' urged people to drink camel's urine.

  704. narcole1919721 says:

    Okay, if you know islam, mention the sections with the differences.

  705. Gendus says:

    Come one everyone.. please accept my challenge.. soon.
    don't you want money? 

  706. Gendus says:

    huffff…. waiting is soooo boring.. 
    How long should I wait till everyone here can give me evidence.. :(.. 
    I'm feeling so bored.

  707. Gendus says:

    I'm waiting for everyone here who will accupt my challenge, especially Ali Sina Si Ali Baba Bla Bla. 

  708. narcole1919721 says:

    I agree that those sections were wrong. u may leave them and find right one. Im sorry its hard for you to find right one nearby.

  709. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    No, it is your iq which shows unmistakable signs of retardation if, not being an Arab, you went on to read the quran in Arabic which means that allah is so stupid that it only understands Arabic. This means that it is no God for the God who created all humans understands every language in the world.

  710. Gendus says:

    Nizamuddin Sheikh, 
    I challenge you too. If you can give evidence I will reward you 10.000.000

  711. narcole1919721 says:

    No wonder, rafidhi imam o.o

  712. Gendus says:

    ok, here you go. 
    it's from wikipedia.
    Terrorism is the systematic use of terror, often violent, especially as a means of coercion.

    I agree with Wikipedia

  713. narcole1919721 says:

    Aw 73 sections my dear, Specify 🙂

  714. Sakat says:

    In Islam a Muslim is "innocent" when he accept Mohammed's marriage with Ayesha,but non-Muslims consider it as disgusting and call such person a "pedophile" so they are not innocent and should be killed ,is this what your above post reflects.

  715. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    @Gendus you are challenging to Ali Sina so I first want to know do you know the definition of Terrorism because if he will give his thought and you will deny that that is not so first you define the Terrorism here so we can also understand you Dr. Sina reply to you. 

  716. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    If she has any quotable quotes let her bring them.

  717. Gendus says:

    Can you?

  718. Gendus says:

    We need evidence. Not words. 
    If I said that I am a president, will you believe it?

  719. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    I only listed the most prominent ones. You will notice that my country is not even included. Muhammadan violence is felt by virtually every country under the sun. Except if there are no muhamadans there.

  720. Sakat says:

    We are only interested in the one ,who ultimately pocket the 50 thousand dolor of prize money ,you have equal opportunity as well the brothers of your site en-cashing ,why? can't you try.

  721. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    @Gendus can you define Terrorism?

  722. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Gendus,
    Muhammad said it himself that he became successful through terror. What is greater than self made and voluntary confession?

  723. Gendus says:

    I challenge Ali Sina if he can give evidence that all muslims kill people everyday I will offer him 10.000.000

  724. Gendus says:

    I challenge Ali Sina if he can give edivence that the 9/11 was a terrorist attack by muslim, I will offer him 1000.000

  725. Sakat says:

    He has no time to attend your silly questions ,please come up with really worth.

  726. Gendus says:

    I challenge Ali Sina. If he can give evidence that Muhammad was a terrorist, I will offer him 100.000.  

  727. Sakat says:

    Oh!! you haven't read today's news ,they wanted to destroy the revered Mahahbhodi Tree in Bhodh Gaya in India.Japanis Pay millions of dolor for its small piece of trunk .Since last 2600 years it is being adored by millions and millions of Buddhist through out the world.

  728. narcole1919721 says:

    So case closed. No one did it pffft

  729. Gendus says:

    You can go here&nbsp ;https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheGodDebate/
    you will see that all atheists hate all kinds of religions.

  730. narcole1919721 says:

    Hes a persian shiite who read quran in farsi and english in rafidhah country 🙂

  731. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Such people, if any, are said to be 'nitwits' by the late Ayatollah Khomeini. He advocated that the "mehrab" (mosque) should be the place of war, the place of fighting with a caliph who will order for heads to be severed, limbs cut like your 'prophet' and his warrior companions used to do.

  732. Firnandezz says:

    Firnandezz, I you made a good point.

  733. narcole1919721 says:

    You dont know me, means you dont know my islam section and my brothers in it 🙂 you just know muhammadans. many people named muhammad though 🙁

  734. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Dear Narcole1919721, 
    can you teach me how and where you will leave such section, here you read the statement of Maulana Habib ur Rehman Sani Ludhianvi "Recently, the head of anti-Ahmadiyya movement, Tahaffuz-e-Khatam-e-Nabuwwat Conference, Maulana Habib ur Rehman Sani Ludhianvi said that Muslims should abandon Sufism. Speaking against the need to root out Ahmadiyas he said that Muslim parents should prepare their children for jihad. It suggested that Muslim parents should prepare their children for the beheading of Ahmadiyas by carrying out suicide blasts in India as they were doing in Pakistan. That Such open invitation to Qital (killing of non-believers) can be given in a secular and non-Muslim majority country of India gives the hint that jihadist and extremist elements among Muslims are lurking in India as well and looking for an opportune time when they will themselves train and prepare Muslim children to carry out suicide bombings against Ahmadiyas, Shias, Hindus and Christians and also against those supporting democracy…." If such type of news come in your ear how will you keep alone yourself form these jahil People. Today in Muslim Society In today’s Islam, the Maulvi has attained the status of the ‘first man’. He has a high place. His sayings are final. And his sermon and his pulpit have the key position. A road is blocked or opened at the word of a Maulvi; a newspaper is closed and an editor is fired; the books of a writer or poet are burned or someone is exiled; someone is pushed towards an unknown fate on the pretext of blasphemy. Today the Maulvi issues threats, declares jihad and issues Fatwas of Kufr from the TV studio but no one has the courage to speak a word against him. The Maulvi interferes in all the affairs of the private life of people. He enters the houses forcefully, can carry out search operation, and forcefully sends the owner of the house to jail. He can issue the fatwa of Kufr on him, can spit on the face of women and can even put the accusation of vulgarity and nudity against her. And he does not need any permission for all this. Everyone from Islam is here appreciating Dr. Zakir Naik but do you know there is fatwa against him also. Darul Uloom, the globally influential Islamic seminary has slammed the religious views of controversial televangelist Dr Zakir Naik in a fatwa as doubtful, urging Muslims to avoid following him. The fatwa came in response to queries from people seeking clarifications on Naik’s teachings since Sunni Muslims either turn to Egypt’s Al-Azhar University or India’s Darul Uloom for guidance. Although Naik, a doctor turned preacher, has gained prominence as a speaker on Islam, he has been a controversial figure because of his disparaging remarks on other religions and radical views. The fatwa said Naik was a ghiar muqallidin, a term used to describe those whose teachings are not directly based on any one of the four accepted schools of Islamic thought and, was therefore, unreliable.  Now all of you explain who is right and who is wrong.
    Sorry I've mentioned "how" in the place of "who"

  735. Firnandezz says:

    Firnandezz, you did a great job. I think Ali Sina is going mentally ill and evil-minded.  He start ed to be moron  too who goes back etiding his own writing to make it looks good.  

  736. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Dear Narcole1919721,

    can you teach me how and where you will leave such section, here you read the statement of Maulana Habib ur Rehman Sani Ludhianvi
    "Recently, the head of anti-Ahmadiyya movement, Tahaffuz-e-Khatam-e-Nabuwwat Conference, Maulana Habib ur Rehman Sani Ludhianvi said that Muslims should abandon Sufism. Speaking against the need to root out Ahmadiyas he said that Muslim parents should prepare their children for jihad. It suggested that Muslim parents should prepare their children for the beheading of Ahmadiyas by carrying out suicide blasts in India as they were doing in Pakistan. That Such open invitation to Qital (killing of non-believers) can be given in a secular and non-Muslim majority country of India gives the hint that jihadist and extremist elements among Muslims are lurking in India as well and looking for an opportune time when they will themselves train and prepare Muslim children to carry out suicide bombings against Ahmadiyas, Shias, Hindus and Christians and also against those supporting democracy…." If such type of news come in your ear how will you keep alone yourself form these jahil People. Today in Muslim Society In today’s Islam, the Maulvi has attained the status of the ‘first man’. He has a high place. His sayings are final. And his sermon and his pulpit have the key position. A road is blocked or opened at the word of a Maulvi; a newspaper is closed and an editor is fired; the books of a writer or poet are burned or someone is exiled; someone is pushed towards an unknown fate on the pretext of blasphemy. Today the Maulvi issues threats, declares jihad and issues Fatwas of Kufr from the TV studio but no one has the courage to speak a word against him.
    The Maulvi interferes in all the affairs of the private life of people. He enters the houses forcefully, can carry out search operation, and forcefully sends the owner of the house to jail. He can issue the fatwa of Kufr on him, can spit on the face of women and can even put the accusation of vulgarity and nudity against her. And he does not need any permission for all this. Everyone from Islam is here appreciating Dr. Zakir Naik but do you know there is fatwa against him also. Darul Uloom, the globally influential Islamic seminary has slammed the religious views of controversial televangelist Dr Zakir Naik in a fatwa as doubtful, urging Muslims to avoid following him. The fatwa came in response to queries from people seeking clarifications on Naik’s teachings since Sunni Muslims either turn to Egypt’s Al-Azhar University or India’s Darul Uloom for guidance.
    Although Naik, a doctor turned preacher, has gained prominence as a speaker on Islam, he has been a controversial figure because of his disparaging remarks on other religions and radical views.
    The fatwa said Naik was a ghiar muqallidin, a term used to describe those whose teachings are not directly based on any one of the four accepted schools of Islamic thought and, was therefore, unreliable.  Now all of you explain how is right and who is wrong.

  737. Sakat says:

    Are you blind ,why? are you here.

  738. @Avika_2013 says:

    Not all of them, I'm a atheism, but I don't hate any religion apart from islam.

  739. narcole1919721 says:

    Yeah thank you mr ali, for 'something' 😉

  740. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Was Khomeini not a muhammadan regardless of his sect? Shiite or not he was and Iran hosted the OIC with no boycott by any sunni, arawite or any other sect. Calling him a thousand unprintable names will not change the facts.

  741. narcole1919721 says:

    I was asking mr sina first, queue please, again 🙂

  742. Gendus says:

    So Ali Sina has not any religion? So he is an atheist. I've been to many of the atheitst forums. I can see there is hate to all kinds of religions and Gods.  They are against Islam, Christianty, Buddhism, Hinduism, and all other religions. 

  743. Sakat says:

    Every one know Islam except you baby ,camel urine cure indigestion created by night eating during Ramadan ,as per your lord Mohammed hahaha.

  744. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Which section? The one that believes Quran is holy book and tries to live by the teachings and practices of Muhammad !!

  745. Sakat says:

    "To try" your religion means he has to become pedophile.

  746. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol are you in love with ali sina? 😉

  747. narcole1919721 says:

    So? when they were killing, did they show their id cards, the names, religion and section?

  748. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    It means any section which identifies itself as muhammadanism.

  749. Sakat says:

    No one !!!

  750. Sakat says:

    Ali too read Arabic Qur'an and, warned all others to be attentive with that criminal manual ,which insist Muslims to destroy the place of worship of non believers ,latest ex .the attack on Maha Bhodhi tree,precisely this is your Qur'an.

  751. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Knowing me is not necessary for us to be on this awesome site. I don't know and do not care to know you.

  752. @Avika_2013 says:

    Yes, I agreed. But I asked you why don't you do it?

  753. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Dr Ali Sina,
    Once again, thank you very much for making all this possible.

  754. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Why would he have to disguise as someone else?

  755. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Firnandezz a Liar
    Your message is loud and clear. Thanks. Any one who thinks he can besmirch Ali Sina or change the objective for which this site was set is worse than a day dreamer.

  756. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/07/world/africa/nigeri

    They are Boko Haram muhammadans. Who else could they be!! Who else is there in Nigeria to do such things?? Only the followers of the fiend you call 'messenger of god' can commit such atrocities!

    Also the fact that you are far more interested in spamming this site than admitting that Muslims are much more murderous than others says a lot about you!

  757. narcole1919721 says:

    This proves you dont know much about islam.

  758. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721
    They call themselves "BOKO HARAM" and their leader identifies himself as SHEIKH SHEKAU. Does that satisfy your curiosity or you will keep on denying, which is what muhammadans excel in?

  759. narcole1919721 says:

    Lololol which sections r u talking about. i dont drink camels urine. next time, specify your muhammadans okay.

  760. narcole1919721 says:

    You may leave those wrong sections. 

  761. narcole1919721 says:

    Im not an arab. but i read arabic quran and understand. im sorry for ur iq, again 🙂

  762. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Don't tell me that you are ignorant of your own religion. Muhammad asked people to drink camel's urine and since that came from him, it is now his 'sunnah'. If you dispute or call the practice 'haram', them you are an apostate. Get ready for the consequence from your own brethren.

  763. narcole1919721 says:

    Who are those 'good muhammadans'

  764. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    You are confirming what allah has already said that muhammadanism is for the Arabs. That is why the quran must remain in arabic. Both the quran and its offspring should stay where they are meant to be :ARABIA.

  765. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol bertrand russel. my mom can talk too, u know.

  766. narcole1919721 says:

    Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Egypt. how many countries in this world? why dont i find it in other countries? 

  767. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    @Firnandezz

    It's shameful for humanity and it is you who are supporting all such kinds of activity. (If you & your religion is peaceful, request to all the terrorist organization to don't kill any one but this time there is three groups under Islam 1. who want to get his glorious day by bomb & explosive 2. Like your self who is supporting such type of activity not physically by mentally and 3. who is looking all things silently. All of us from Muslim community say all other community is against us but they don't try to learn who is responsible for that. since childhood grandmother and mother teach the baby that Jews are against us although that time baby don'g know who is Jews, how is Jews but he know Jews are against us and we should hate them. After few years when he started to go to Mosque in Taqreer Mullah always teach in Palestine Jews are killing Muslims, in Kashmir Hindus are killing Muslims, in Chechenya Christians are killing Muslims every Friday they make a picture in your mind whole world is against Islam, they give the evidence of Some Sura of the Holy Quran you do like this and you do not like this always but they never teach you about humanity. If you ask some question to Mullah they do not give the correct answer. And like Firnandezz the Dominance of Mullahism in Islam increasing because he can make argue among us but he can't  argue among such jahil people who is teaching wrong to people.

    @Firnandezz don't write about myself feku because I was Muslim but I've left this religion 5-July-2013 and be a humanist 

  768. narcole1919721 says:

    Islam and moslems have many sections. Which section do you mean? 🙁

  769. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    'Innocent' does not mean the same thing to a Islam-follower as it means to a typical non-Muslim. Unfortunately, most non-Muslims are unaware of this fact and is a primary reason why they fall victims to Muslims' taqiyya 🙁

  770. narcole1919721 says:

    Please give the names of the killers first.

  771. narcole1919721 says:

    Quran is only in arabic my dear, forever stays the same. None can edit it using other languages. you have no option but to learn it.

  772. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    This site is not metaphorical. It is real and factual on the evil of muhammadanism. I concur that no day passes by without muhammadans killing in the dozens. Just watch out for the news coming out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, now Egypt etc. You don't need to wait long.

  773. narcole1919721 says:

    Since hes  non moslem, hes objectively seeing this out of frame.

  774. narcole1919721 says:

    Oh many realized killing innocent is wrong and still in islam 🙁

  775. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    If Fidel Castro said what you have quoted or meant it, if he said it, why did he not become a muhammadan? As far as I know he is still a communist, which makes him an atheist.

  776. narcole1919721 says:

    Aw are you talking to same person?

  777. narcole1919721 says:

    You still need money eh?

  778. narcole1919721 says:

    one hate islam, do i know you?  

  779. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Are the works of Yusuf Ali, Shakir etc "dajjal translations" too? Which then is the acceptable version?

  780. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol ayatullah khomeini greatest mohammadan? Hes a rafidhi shiite pfft

  781. narcole1919721 says:

    In syafi3i mazhab, its najis and haram. oh need more accounts? 1-hate, i-hate, iaslm? no more friends? 🙁

  782. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Firnandez,
    I believe in Ali Sina because what he says is true. I am living through it right now in my country. That you have not killed up to this point does not mean you will not do so before the end of your life. How would you react to your child becoming an "infidel"? Embrace him/her? Or would you consider what such apostasy will do to 'your family honor'?
    I mentioned earlier home "good muhammadans" massacred 42 pupils and teachers in a state in my country. Their only crime was embracing western education which the jihadists say is 'haram'.They did not apostatize.

  783. Ali Sina says:

    Actually manning this site is expensive. Not only I pay for a dedicated server, I also have to pay for its maintenance and not all the service I get is ideal. I sped a lot on bad contractors that get my money and deliver nothing until I find someone who is worth his salt. The donations don't cover even 10% of the cost of maintaining the site. Now considering I have kept these sites for over 12 years, you can see I have spent a fortune just to make this message heard. Some people freely ask for donations, I can't do that.

  784. narcole1919721 says:

    For dumb ones, my dear 🙁

  785. Ali Sina says:

    @Firnandezz

    "There is not a day that someone a Muslim" makes no sense. It should be as I corrected it.

    How can you understand the original sentence differently from the its corrected versoin?

    I am actually pleased to see that you can't argue with anything I said and cling to such silly things as argument.

  786. 1-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    Materialism is so crucial to the muhammadan. That is why you always think that there is pecuniary interest behind everything someone does to expose muhammadanism. Ali Sina has said it often enough here that he is not deriving any benefit from establishing this site. Rather he is spending his own money to maintain it for the sake of humanity. You can see that he is worlds apart from Muhammad and his followers who went/go after material gains.

  787. Firnandezz says:

    It means that you don't want to debate. It's ok.  You are a good person.

  788. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Sakat,
    Very good answer. I had the same thing in mind.

  789. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    If Muslims' killing of dozens of children in Nigeria today doesn't make you realize that there is something seriously wrong with Islam, then there is no need for you to comment! The comment section here is much better without spam!

  790. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Firnandez,
    There are numerous verses in the quran and the hadiths which call for killing. It has been made mandatory that a muhammadan who abandons his/her 'deen' should be killed. Your contemporary leaders and 'scholars' are busy reiterated the same theme. On the basis of these parents have gone ahead to either kill directly or call on others to kill their own children.
    Ayatollah Khomeini, perhaps the greatest muhammadan of the last century, said :"ISLAM MAKES IT INCUMBENT ON ALL ADULT MALES, PROVIDED THEY ARE NOT DISABLED OR INCAPACITATED, TO PREPARE THEMSELVES FOR THE CONQUEST OF COUNTRIES THAT THE WRIT OF ISLAM IS OBEYED IN EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD-"
    In pursuit of that objective, "good muhammadans" attacked a school in a state in my country two days ago killing 42 pupils and teachers.
    Zakir Naik said that every muhammadan is a terrorist. That is who a 'good muhammadan' is.

  791. Firnandezz says:

    what's your name? I can't comment on you without knowing your name. 

  792. Firnandezz says:

    *I thought you would not admit that you had adited…

  793. Firnandezz says:

    Ali Sina, 

    It's not a grammatical mistake. Look at the original text here:

    "There is not a day that someone a Muslim does not kill some innocent people in the name of Allah fully expecting to be rewarded by him."   

    Can you find something ungrammatical in the original sentence? No, there is nothing ungrammatical. 
    You did not correct the grammar, but you changed the word "someone"  into "some" which suggests very different meaning than the previous one.

    I am sorry to claim that you are a liar, because I thought you thought would not admit that you had edited it.  Now, you have admitted it, and you are not a liar. 

  794. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Firnandezz, your scheme to somehow discredit Ali Sina is NOT going to work here! If Ali had edited the article you can be sure that he would have let people know! Ali doesn't become a 'liar' just because some taqiyya practitioner calls him one. Visitors to this site can read his articles and his comments and find out for themselves about Ali's credibility!

    Nor is your scheme to somehow distract people from the actual topic being discussed is going to work here…. you can be assured of that!!

  795. Ali Sina says:

    @Firnandezz

    Yes I had some grammatical errors in that sentence. I corrected it. But why this would make me a liar?

  796. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    narcole1919721,
    If a hindu washes his face with "cow urine" is he not more sensible than a muhammadan who drinks camel's urine as ordered by Muhammad? There are more than 1001 silly things muhammadans do or believe in which make no sense to a rational thinker.

  797. narcole1919721 says:

    Good point. "True muslim' and 'real muslim' not same eh? poor real muslims get blamed for 'true muslims' actions.

  798. Firnandezz says:

    "There is not a day that some Muslim don’t kill some innocent people in the name of Allah, expecting to be rewarded by him."  

    Oh, really? 
    very good job Ali Sina. You have obviously adited your article..  

    Here is the original text: 
    "There is not a day that someone a Muslim does not kill some innocent people in the name of Allah fully expecting to be rewarded by him."  

    Now, it's very clear to me who the true liar is.  
    Wow..  I can't believe you edited it. 

  799. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    Why do you need to post so many dumb comments? 🙁

  800. Ali Sina says:

    @Firnandezz

    I am glad you don't accept unsubstantiated opinions. But I have already proven my point in countless articles that I have written extensively. Here I just quote a few passages from the Quran. I think anyone who really believes in them and follows them becomes a terrorist.

    8:60
    And prepare against them what force you can and horses tied at the frontier, to terrorize thereby the enemy of Allah…

    8:12
    I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them
    2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them
    2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression
    2:216, Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you
    3:28, Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah
    8:65, O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers
    9:5, But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem.

    As for Zakir Naik, he does support Islamic terrorism. Please see this. http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina51022.htm

  801. Firnandezz says:

    "There is not a day that some Muslim don’t kill some innocent people in the name of Allah, expecting to be rewarded by him." 

    Oh, really?
    very good job Ali Sina. You have obviously adited his article.. 

    Here is the original text:
    "There is not a day that someone a Muslim does not kill some innocent people in the name of Allah fully expecting to be rewarded by him." 

    Now, it's very clear to me who the true liar is. 
    Wow..  I can't believe you edited it. 

  802. narcole1919721 says:

    Why do you need many accounts? 🙁 

  803. narcole1919721 says:

    Oh so what is this site about? 

  804. Firnandezz says:

    Sina, 

    Thank you, Ali Sina, for spending your precious time responding to my question.  

    I get your point, but you did not actually answer my question. If your definition is a true muslim is the one who kills innocent people, then why is it so? You haven't explained your definition yet, it looks like it's just a mere opinion. You're just giving your opinion without explaining or supporting your definition.  You also said that Dr. Zakir Naik is the true muslim, and it is contrary to your own definition of a true muslim. Dr. Zakir Naik never kills innocent people neither does he asks people to kill people.  You are just not making sense at all.  How can you invite a muslim scholar to debate with you if you can't even answer this very simple question properly?  

    Now, if I define that a true muslim is the one who create peace and does not kill innocent people, do you think my definition is correct?. 

  805. Firnandezz says:

    Ali Sina,

    Thank you, Ali Sina, for spending your precious time responding to my question. 

    I get your point, but you did not actually answer my question. If your definition is a true muslim is the one who kills innocent people, then why is it so? You haven't explained your definition yet, it looks like it's just a mere opinion. You're just giving your opinion without explaining or supporting your definition.  You also said that Dr. Zakir Naik is the true muslim, and it is contrary to your own definition of a true muslim. Dr. Zakir Naik never kills innocent people neither does he asks people to kill people.  You are just not making sense at all.  How can you invite an muslimscholar to debate with you if you can't even answer this very simple question properly? 

    Now, if I define that a true muslim is the one who create peace and does not kill innocent people, do you think my definition is correct?. 

  806. Sakat says:

    latest is today's attack on Mahabhodhy temple and revered Mahabodhi Tree at Bodha Gaya India.

  807. Ali Sina says:

    @Firnandezz

    Although I don't follow any religion I think I have learned a lot from Buddha and from Jesus. These two are my spiritual mentors.

  808. narcole1919721 says:

    Oh so you have tried rafidhah, nasrani, budha, hindu, but you never tried my religion.

  809. narcole1919721 says:

    Congratulation mr Ali! Ur now budhist!

  810. Ali Sina says:

    @Firnandezz

    I don't follow any religion. I try to be like a bee that sips the nectar of many flowers. There is beauty and truth in most religions, There are also some silly practices. Pick the good and discard the bad. Why do you focus on the cow urine and not on countless spiritual teachings if Hinduism?

  811. Firnandezz a Liar says:

    In the article Ali Sina said –
    "There is not a day that some Muslim don’t kill some innocent people in the name of Allah, expecting to be rewarded by him."

    Firnandezz however, wants us to believe that Ali Sina said- "There is not a day that someone a Muslim does not kill some innocent people in the name of Allah fully expecting to be rewarded by him."

    Firnandezz, plenty of people on this site are very familiar with the taqiyya tactics of Muslims. Sorry to bust your chops but you will not get too far trying these tricks here.

  812. Sakat says:

    Immaterial ,don't waste time concentrate on your defending of Mad Mohammed.

  813. Sakat says:

    Ali has thousand heads and thousand arms lo!!!

  814. Sakat says:

    He realized before he could execute one,and left ISLAM lo !!!.

  815. Ali Sina says:

    > @Firnandezz
    True Muslim is one who follows the teachings of Muhammad to the letter. The large majority of Muslims don't. They are good people because all humans are born good. We are naturally good. In essence all humans are divine. There is a light of God in every one of us. But that light becomes dimmer and dimmer when one follows ideologies that promote hate and violence. You can't say those who butchered humans in the Nazi death camps were good people. Their evil ideology had dimmed the light of God in them.

    The light of God in us can never be extinguished. Even the worst mass murderer has the light of God in him. But it is covered so much that all you see in him is darkness.

    Is Zakir Naik a true Muslim? Yes, in my opinion he is. He is a very evil man and supports and justifies terrorism. He is not after the truth also. Countless Muslims and non-Muslims asked him to debate with me. Had he been after the truth or at least convinced of his position he would not have shunned. He refused to answer all of them. He is a charlatan after glory and fame. The man has no regards for truth. Yes he is a true Muslim.

    “Prophet Muhammad always invites us to create peace, he never asks us to kill innocent people.”
    This is not true. You don’t know Islam. Instead of projecting your own ideals on your faith I suggest you study it.

  816. Firnandezz says:

    where is Ali Sina, 

    Did her read my comment?

  817. Sakat says:

    I am a Buddhist baby ,that's why i am sad today and ,don't bring your Semitic religions here ,they are useless things you can't compare your thugs religion with Buddhism OK (Buddhist do not believe in God ,in that respect Ali is Buddhist).

  818. narcole1919721 says:

    Okay why dont you convert to Abrahamic religion too like ali sina? at least hes not a hindu who washes his face using cows urine.

  819. Firnandezz says:

    Ali Sina,

    You said that "every true Muslim is a terrorist. 
    Now would you be so kind sparing some of your precious time to explain to us about what a true muslim is 'according to you'. And how do you measure that your definition is right or not. What the references you can give us supporting your definition of a true muslim. If you are really a good scholar. And why do you think your definition of a true muslim is correct? Now, I'm really looking forward to your answer. 

    Don't you think the one like Dr. Zakir Naik is not a true muslim? if not, why? 

    Prophet Muhammad always invites us to create peace, he never asks us to kill innocent poeple. I remembered what Dr. Zakir Naik said about peace in Islam. He said that if you kill one innocent person, it is as if you have killed all humankind. And he gave us the reference from the Koran. 

    plus, Dr. Zakir is always very polite with his language, he never used bad words like, 'evil' , 'stupid' or the sorts as I can find many in your writings. 

  820. narcole1919721 says:

    So why did fidel castro say christian and jewish governments paid weak brainwashed 'muslims' to slander ALL muslims? and why intelligents knew this would happen, before it happenned, and just let it happen?

  821. Sakat says:

    @Ali Sina
    Look at the cowardly acts of these Muslims ,they have blasted bombs at Bodh Gaya temple ,they want to destroy the Mahabodhi Tree ,they are not satisfied destroying Bamiyan Buddha's .How disgusting these primitive people are ,the follower of that criminal ,mad,road robber,rapist Mohammed.Really i felt very sad today.

  822. Ali Sina says:

    Hi Firnandezz,

    Please see this site http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ Since 9/11/2001 there have been 21192 terrorist attacks. That is 21192 terrorist attacks in 4680 days.. Do the math. That is more than 4.52 terrorist attacks per day. ALL the terrorists were Muslim,. None of them were Jews, Hindus or Christian.

    Convinced, or not yet?

  823. narcole1919721 says:

    No further about what ali sina wrote? further about quran english dajjal translation?

  824. narcole1919721 says:

    There something fishy here.

  825. Saeed says:

    I read the article Firnandezz. I know very well what was said and intended to mean. I posted what i found to be right from my part and wish to debate no further.  

  826. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol speaking about iq eh? i guess i remember with whom i talked about it before.

  827. Saeed says:

    My respect for you has increased more, after realizing how much pain it can be to tolerate and debate with one dimensional idiots with iq of 80 in here. Honestly only you have the knack for it.

  828. narcole1919721 says:

    You were a 'muslim'. Did you kill someone before?

  829. narcole1919721 says:

    Did you get money from your organization?

  830. narcole1919721 says:

    Mr ali, did you ever disguise as someone else?

  831. narcole1919721 says:

    Mr saad,  are you mr saeed's brother? or multiple accounts?

  832. Ali Sina says:

    I said every true Muslims is a terrorist. Haven’t you killed anyone yet? Are you not planning to kill someone? Then you are not a true Muslim.

    Fortunately, most Muslims are ignorant of Islam. They project their natural goodness on their religion and think Muhammad was a holy man. This is not true. Muhammad was a very evil man. Once the truth comes out, people like you must make their minds. I believe if you are really as regular person as you say and have no desire to kill people you will realize that Islam is not what you had thought to be and will leave Islam.

    Most Muslims will leave Islam soon as the truth about this evil cult comes out. Most of them are just normal people and they will not want to remain in a religion that promotes so much hate and evil.

    Truth is coming out, but I am working hard to make it reach to a larger audience. Just as I hated to read anything written against Islam I know most Muslims also hate reading the articles I write. You are among the exceptions. For these people I have something else on the burner.

    I give Islam 20 more years of life. I know many may think this is ridiculous. But there are divine forces at work. The world is transforming in a spiritual sense. Humanity is awakening like never before and mankind is realizing we are one people. Ideologies of hate are all doomed, Islam will not survive this spiritual renascence.

  833. Firnandezz says:

    Saeed,
    Please, read again the origional quote.  
    Here I quote it again for you. 

    "There is not a day that someone a Muslim does not kill some innocent people in the name of Allah fully expecting to be rewarded by him."  

    I think your interpretation of that quoate is wrong. 
    I hope you enjoy interpreting in your own way again. 

  834. Saad says:

    Interestingly the full text of Pope Benedict is – Some good food for thought
    "Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." Many Muslims were offended by what was perceived as a denigration of Muhammad, and many reacted violently. In his book, Manuel II then continues, saying, "God is not pleased by blood – and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats… To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death…"

  835. Firnandezz says:

    Saeed,

    Please, read again the origional quote. 
    Here I quote it again for you.

    “There is not a day that a Muslim does not kill some innocent people in the name of Allah fully expecting to be rewarded by him.” 

    I think your interpretation of that quoate is wrong.

    I hope you enjoy interpreting in your own way again. 🙂

  836. narcole1919721 says:

    Oh so now he uses metaphor? is this site metaphoric too?

  837. Saeed says:

     Hi Firnandez, 
    I think you misunderstood the context. He is not saying that every musilm who exists in the world has killed someone or do it everyday. But Ali Sina means that countless terrorist attacks are carried out by Muslims frequently for Jihad which is a part of Islam. 
    Everyday was used metaphorically.

  838. Ali Sina says:

    Believe it of not there are several great enlightened scholars who write and address Persians. The have television shows and are much loved by many Iranians. People who don't speak Persian don't know what is happening in Iran. Iran will be the first country to get itself free from Islam.

  839. narcole1919721 says:

    Agree.

  840. Firnandezz says:

    Ali Sina, 
    Noone will believe that you are an educated person. Look again at what you've said:

    "There is not a day that someone a Muslim does not kill some innocent people in the name of Allah fully expecting to be rewarded by him."

    How do you prove this? what about  me? I am a muslim and I never in my life kill anyone. 

    You have to prove that — all muslim kill some innocent people —
    You have to prove that — they do it everyday —

    You are really an "amazing" Ali Sina I've ever seen. Noone will believe in you. 

  841. @Avika_2013 says:

    Hello, I think you should translate your articles into Farsi and have a Farsi language site. Why don't you write for the enlightement of your own peoples, the Iranians?

  1. 2 June, 2014

    @Ali Sina, a party member of geert wilders 'arnoud van doorn' converted to islam. what is wrong with this guy? what may be the reason behind such foolish decisions?

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