Women in Islam: Was Muhammad a Misogynist?

Atiyah Khan

Ms. Atiya Khan is a Pakistani television personality. After the Islamic terrorism of 9/11, instead of wondering what derives her co-religionist to commit such crimes against other humans and deepen her knowledge, which would have likely led her to leave Islam she decided to deepen her faith instead. When good people learn the truth about Islam they can no longer believe in it.

Islam attracts people inclined towards violence. From the biographies of Muhammad we learn that most early Muslims were thugs and criminals prior to their conversion. They did not reform, they used their traits to raid, rape and promote Islam. They found in Islam justification for their actions.

The fact that Muslims’ faith is strengthened after some of them commit an act of terror is strange, but it goes back to the time of Muhammad.  Ibn Ishaq writes that the Quraish, the population of Mecca, ignored Muhammad until he began insulting their religion and telling them that their forefathers are in hell. [[1]] As the result, tension in Mecca was high and hostility was ready to erupt into violence.

One day, a group of youths from Mecca found a few Muslims of their age praying in a glen outside the town. They mocked them, and Muslims jumped at them and Sa’d ibn Abu Waqas smote and wounded one of the Meccans with a camel jawbone.

It’s well known that Muslims feel free to ridicule and malign all other faiths but have zero tolerance if their religion is slighted. Ibn Ishaq says, “This was the first blood to be shed in Islam.” [[2]] He also claims that as the result of this aggression, Muslims became stronger.
Another story is when Hamza, the rugged uncle of Muhammad, went to the mosque in Mecca. , took Abul Hakam who was sitting with a few other men off guard, and smote his head with his bow, which made his head to bleed. and again Ibn Ishaq gloats that as the result, everyone feared Muslims and the believers’ faith increased.

Other cases are the assassinations of Ka’b ibn Ashraf, the centenarian Abu Afak, and Asma bint Marwan, a mother of five children in Medina. After Asma was brutally murdered at night, Muhammad wanted to show off his power. He ordered her assassin, Salim ibn Umayr, to go back and taunt her small children for everyone to see the strength of Islam.  Ibn Ishaq says, “Now there was a great commotion among Bani Khatma that day about the affair of Bint Marwan. She had five children, and when Umayr went to them from the apostle he said, “I have killed Bint Marwan. That was the first day that Islam became powerful among Bani Khatma; before that those who were Muslims concealed the fact… The day after Bint Marwan was killed the men of Bani Khatma became Muslims because they saw the power of Islam.”[[3]]

The above stories, not only show how Islam expanded through fear and threat of violence, they also tell us about the society in which it had emerged. Although cultures are different, human nature is the same everywhere. Those of us who live in free societies find it incomprehensible to submit to a religion or any ideology by force. That is only a delusion. Under duress and threat of death, almost anyone will eventually surrender and submit to force.

The fact that Muslims’ faith increase as Islamic terrorism grows is a psychological phenomenon. In my book, “Understanding Muhammad and Muslims” I demonstrated that Muhammad was a psychopath narcissist and his followers, to the extent that they believe in him and try to emulate him, evince his psychopathology. The psychopath becomes bolder with every victory and will increase his violence. On the other hand defeat makes him recoil. The psychopath is a bully when strong but a coward in heart.

The reason for the rise of Islamic zealotry today is the victory of Islam in many fronts, starting with the 1979 revolution in Iran, the defeat of the Russians in Afghanistan and the massacre of 3000 Americans 9/11. All these victories make Muslims more resolute, and as the result, more terror and violence ensue. The reverse is also true. Nothing dampens the bully’s zealotry more than defeat. The response to a bully who slaps you is not turning the other cheek nor to slap him back, but to cut off his hand so can slap you no more.  The bully cannot help it. If he is not under your boot he will be at your throat.  He speaks and understands only the language of violence. To stop, he must be utterly crushed.

Back to Ms. Khan!  After watching the savagery of her co-religionists, this modern Canadian raised lady became so enthusiastic about Islam; she donned the veil and became its ardent promoter.  In an interview she disclosed that the reason she decided to cover her hair was because by looking at women’s hair, non-maharam men will rob her of her energy.  I am sure an Islamic university must have scientifically proven this phenomenon.

In recent years, thousands of young Muslim women have joined the jihad to provide sexual service for Muslim fighters.  Voltaire said, those who make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.

This is not rational, but Islam is not a faith based on reason. It is based on bravado and vain glory.  All it takes for a moderate Muslim to become radicalized is the news that Islam is winning, for them to jump on the bandwagon of jihad.

This is happening again, as the terrorist of ISIS, have taken to butchering innocent people, many Muslim youths from all over the world have gained a new zeal to join them. The parents of these youths are shocked to learn that their kids have become terrorists, but they should not be. Moderate Islam is a breeding ground for terrorism. All terrorists were once moderate.   Even those who are Muslim by name alone and nothing else are in danger.  Ms. Khan is a good example. She was not a practicing Muslim, until 9/11. Today she runs a television show dedicated to promote Islam.

I have repeatedly stated that moderate Islam is the cradle of radical Islam. Islam is radical, and once the seed of this faith is sown, it will eventually grow into terrorism. Anyone who believes Muhammad was a prophet of God can become radicalized and even a terrorist.  Give me a young impressionable secular Muslim and I will transform him into a terrorist in one day. All I will do is to show him the teachings of Muhammad in the Quran and hadith and show him if he wants to be a true Muslim he has to kill non-Muslims. Of course there is no guarantee, because humans are free to choose good or evil.  After seeing the truth about Muhammad, he may decide to leave Islam. That was what I did and millions of others have done.

Meanwhile, Mrs. Kahn is sowing the seed of terrorism in her kids.  Her children are still young. When they grow up, it will take no effort for someone to show them that a true Muslim is one who fights for Allah and Ms. Khan may join the list of countless other distraught parents whose children become suicide bombers and terrorists. If that happens, she will have no one to blame but herself.  It was she who misled her children into accepting Muhammad as a prophet of God and groomed them to be scooped by the terrorists who can easily show them the real Islam is in fighting and killing non-Muslims and make Islam dominant.

As far as I can see Ms. Khan is not a scholar of Islam.  Like most Muslims however, she believes her conviction and zealotry make scholarship redundant. It doesn’t.

I generally don’t debate enthusiastic Muslims who have not read my book nor have any knowledge of their religion.  I make an exception this time since Ms. Khan is a public figure in Pakistan. She seems to have been in search of meaning and spirituality, but unfortunately in the wrong place.  My duty ends by showing her the truth. The rest is up to her.

Ms. Khan replied to several of my charges.  Here I am going to her rebuttal of the charge of misogyny that I laid on Muhammad. She wrote,

Misogyny is the hatred or dislike of women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including sexual discrimination, denigration of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification of women.” (From Wikipedia)

He [Muhammad] gave women the right to inherit property, right to divorce, right to choose a partner, right to work, right to public life, [and] he was loved by his wives and children, he gave [to] what woman said great importance and respect, [and] he was kind and playful with them.

He called his daughter Umma Abiha meaning mother of her father. He got up every time she entered the room gave her his seat and asked her to finish his sermons. He said that Fatima is of me and I am of Fatima. Whoever hurts her hurts me and whoever hurts me hurts God. This does not sound like a misogynist to me.”


Ms. Khan’s rebuttals are all short. You can read them in here:


She says Muhammad gave women the right to inherit property.  Didn’t women in Arabia have that right before? Khadija inherited the wealth of her two deceased husbands and continued their business hiring men to work for her. Muhammad reduced that inheritance and the power of women. Contrary to what Muslims claim, Islam did not improve the status of women in Arabia. It actually took everything they had and denigrated them to such an extent that some years after Muhammad’s death Aisha complained, “Do you make us (women) equal to dogs and donkeys?” [[4]]

The following story, narrated by Abdullah ibn Abbas reveals how Arab women lost their freedom, thanks to Islam.

“I asked Umar, “O Chief of the believers! Who were the two ladies from among the wives of the Prophet to whom Allah said: ‘If you two return in repentance (66.4)? He said, “I am astonished at your question, O Ibn ‘Abbas. They were Aisha and Hafsa. Then ‘Umar explained, “We, the people of Quraish, used to have authority over women, but when we came to live with the Ansar, we noticed that the Ansari women had the upper hand over their men, so our women started acquiring the habits of the Ansari women. Once I shouted at my wife and she paid me back in my coin and I disliked that she should answer me back. She said, ‘Why do you take it ill that I retort upon you? By Allah, the wives of the Prophet retort upon him, and some of them may not speak with him for the whole day till night.’ What she said scared me and I said to her, ‘Whoever amongst them does so, will be a great loser.’” [[5]]

This is a long Hadith. Umar expressed his concern that the women of Medina were influencing the women of Quraish and teaching them to be more independent.

Mecca was a religious hub. In religious centers, people are often fanatic, and in patriarchal religions, women are discriminated. Mecca was no exception. It was natural that women in Mecca had a lower status than other Arab women. When these women migrated to Medina and saw the freedom that women enjoyed there, they wanted it too. This did not sit well with Umar and Muhammad, the two misogynist men of Mecca. The above conversation between these two central figures of Islam shows that they were not pleased to see their wives enjoying the taste of freedom.

Arabs were not used to writing their history. Very little is left of pre Islamic culture and way of life. Whatever was written, Muslims destroyed.  What Muslim historians wrote of that time is all derogatory. Muhammad called anything pre-Islamic “jahiliya” (days of ignorance) and claimed that until he started his religion all Arabs (in fact all mankind) were ignorant. Muslims think Arabs buried their daughters alive and were constantly in war. They say that a woman prior to Islam was worth less than a camel and it was the Prophet who gave them the status of human being. The above hadith depicts a different story. We can see that Arab women had more rights prior to Islam.

Muhammad grew old, impotent and paranoid. He was strict with his wives, fearing the rivalry of young virile men.  The verses that he revealed to frighten his wives lest they go astray became the norm for all women.  Islam is a misogynistic religion because Muhammad was a misogynist.

Anytime that the Prophet needed to say the ultimate word and make others shut up, he would make his Allah reveal a verse. He was an old man, having a harem of a score of wives and concubines. His wives were young and beautiful. In his old age he became chieftain, and could afford to marry anyone. Some even came and offered themselves to him. He would choose only the young and the pretty. But political power is not a substitute to physical stamina. He was aware of the age gap between his young wives and himself. He was jealous and would warn his wives to not betray him.

30 “O Consorts of the Prophet! If any of you were guilty of evident unseemly conduct, the Punishment would be doubled to her, and that is easy for Allah. 31.  But any of you that is devout in the service of Allah and His Messenger, and works righteousness,- to her shall We grant her reward twice: and We have prepared for her a generous Sustenance. [[6]]

He would often remind his wives to behave in a way as not to attract the attention of other men and cover themselves so they don’t become desired by strangers.32.  O Consorts of the Prophet! Ye are not like any of the (other) women: if ye do fear (Allah), be not too complacent of speech, lest one in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire: but speak ye a speech (that is) just. 33.  And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance; and establish regular Prayer, and give regular Charity; and obey Allah and His Messenger. And Allah only wishes to remove all abomination from you, ye members of the Family, and to make you pure and spotless.[[7]]

Are these verses from God or the concerns of an impotent aging man with a bevy of young and attractive wives? Muhammad needed to control his wives and that is the reason behind the Islamic veil.  What was originally meant for his wives became part of the Sharia and is imposed in all Islamic countries on all Muslim women.

Muhammad repeatedly emphasized the importance of women to obey their husbands. Did this have something to do with the fact that most of his wives were teenagers that he needed to control?  His wives were uppity, as all teenagers are.  To frighten them into submission he made his own wishes expressed by his imaginary friend in the heavens. Any time he had some domestic problems, Allah would rush to the rescue and reveal a verse or two to help him out. The following was used to put his wives in their places.

“It may be if he divorced you (all) that his Lord will give him instead of you, wives better than you, Muslims (who submit to Allâh), believers, obedient to Allah, turning to Allâh in repentance, worshiping Allah sincerely, fasting or emigrants (for Allah’s sake), previously married and virgins.”[[8]]

Is the maker of the universe so petty as to be concerned about the domestic affairs of Muhammad and wives?

The truth that women in Arabia had more liberty and authority before Islam, rather than after it, can also be evinced from the fact that Khadijah had a business of her own and had men at her service. Muhammad was but one of her employees. Do we have any tale of women after Islam running their own business and hiring men to work for them?

Women are Deficient in Intelligence

Muhammad said women are deficient in intelligence, and the majority of them will go to Hell by being ungrateful to their husbands.

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri,

“On ‘Id ul Fitr or ‘Id ul Adha Allah’s Apostle went out to the Musalla. After finishing the prayer, he delivered the sermon and ordered the people to give alms. He said, “O people! Give alms.” Then he went towards the women and said. “O women! Give alms, for I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-Fire were you (women).” The women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is the reason for it?” He replied, “O women! You curse frequently, and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. O women, some of you can lead a cautious wise man astray.”[[9]]

Does a man who thinks women are responsible for leading men astray, that the majority of them go to Hell because they are ungrateful to their husbands, and are deficient in intelligence, respect women? Various versions of this hadith are repeated in several places. In another hadith he explained the reason for which he believed women are deficient in intelligence:

When women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her religion.” [[10]]

So according to Muhammad, women are deficient in intelligence because the witness of two of them is equal to the witness of one man. And they are deficient in religion because during their menses they cannot pray or fast. What did he mean by “deficient in religion?” Perhaps he meant that women are spiritually less evolved than men?

The question is who made these laws?  Wasn’t it Muhammad who said that women cannot pray during their menses and that their testimony is worthless? The logical fallacy consists in trying to prove one absurdity by the authority of another.

Hell is filled with women.

Muhammad used fear as a means to drive home his point.  Like, Allah would allegedly send women to Hell for the most trivial of things, like displeasing their husbands.

He said, “I also saw the Hell-fire and I had never seen such a horrible sight. I saw that most of the inhabitants were women.” The people asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! Why is it so?” The Prophet replied, “Because of their ungratefulness.” It was asked whether they were ungrateful to Allah. The Prophet said, “They are ungrateful to their husbands and ungrateful to good deeds. If you are benevolent to one of them throughout the life and if she sees anything (undesirable) in you, she will say, ‘I have never had any good from you.’ “[[11]]

He must have said this to intimidate his own wives who most likely were reluctant to have sex with an old infirm man, who sweated and smelled foul, as I have shown in my book, “Understanding Muhammad”. There is no mention of men going to suffer any consequence for mistreating their wives.

Jabir ibn Abdullah narrated when Muhammad told women that the majority of the inhabitants of Hell were women and they asked why, the messenger of Allah said: “For you grumble often and show ingratitude to your spouse”. And then they began to give alms out of their ornaments such as their earrings and rings which they threw on to the cloth of Bilal. [[12]]


Beating Women

Men are allowed to abuse their wives verbally, emotionally and physically. The Quran says:

“Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their bed and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High.” [[13]]

This verse established the position of women in Islam. It denies their independence, makes them subservient to men, states that men are masters and owners because they are the breadwinners.  It implies that women are incapable of and should not be allowed to work and become providers. It assumes women’s work at home and taking care of children and house is worth nothing and she must be grateful for the food that her husband gives her.

Note that a woman does not have to disobey her husband to be beaten.  She may not have to even think of it. The mere fact that he fears that she is thinking of disobeying him licenses him to beat out of her.  Will he be answered for beating her? No!  Umar narrated, “The Prophet said, ‘A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.’” [[14]]

Several hadiths report that Muhammad and his close companions beat their wives.

Aisha narrated, “He (Muhammad) struck me on the chest which caused me pain.”[[15]]

Umar found the Prophet sitting sad and silent with his wives around him. … (He) decided to say something which would make the Prophet laugh, so he said, “Messenger of God, I wish you had seen (the treatment I meted out to) the daughter of Kharija when she asked me for extra money and I got up and slapped her on the neck.” God’s messenger laughed and said, “They are around me as you see asking for extra money.” Abu Bakr then got up, went to Aisha and slapped her on the neck, and Umar did the same to Hafsa. [[16]]

Narrated Aisha: A necklace of mine was lost at Al-Baida’ and we were on our way to Medina. Abu Bakr came to me and hit me violently on the chest and said, “You have detained the people because of a necklace.” [[17]]

Iyas ibn Abdullah reported God’s messenger as saying, “Do not beat God’s handmaidens;” but when `Umar came to God’s messenger and said, “The women have become emboldened towards their husbands,” he gave license to beat them. Then many women went round God’s messenger’s family complaining of their husbands, and he said, “Many women have gone around complaining of their husbands. Those are not the best among you” [[18]]

When a woman who was beaten severely by her husband went to Muhammad to complain he ignored her request.

Aisha said, “I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!” When ‘AbdurRahman heard that his wife had gone to the Prophet, he came with his two sons from another wife. She said, “By Allah! I have done no wrong to him but he is impotent and is as useless to me as this,” holding and showing the fringe of her garment, ‘Abdur-Rahman said, “By Allah, O Allah’s Apostle! She has told a lie! I am very strong and can satisfy her but she is disobedient and wants to go back to Rifa’a.” Allah’s Apostle said, to her, “If that is your intention, then know that it is unlawful for you to remarry Rifa’a unless Abdur-Rahman has had sexual intercourse with you.” Then the Prophet saw two boys with ‘Abdur-Rahman and asked (him), “Are these your sons?” On that ‘AbdurRahman said, “Yes.” The Prophet said, “You claim what you claim (i.e.. that he is impotent)? But by Allah, these boys resemble him as a crow resembles a crow,” [[19]]

So the fact that this woman was beaten to such an extent that her body had turned green was not enough excuse for her to ask for divorce. The only time a woman is entitled to ask for a divorce is when her husband is impotent.  The good news is however, that a woman has the right not to be hit in the face.

Hakim ibn Muawiya al-Qushairi quoted his father as telling that he asked, “Messenger of God, what right can any wife demand of her husband?” He replied, “That you should give her food to eat, clothe her when you clothe yourself, not strike her on the face, and do not revile her or separate from her except in the house.” [[20]]

To be fair, we should be grateful to Muhammad for saying women should not be reviled in public. At home it is okay.

Women are toys

Umar was once talking when his wife interjected, so he said to her: ‘You are a toy, if you are needed we will call you.'”[[21]]

And ‘Amru Bin al-’Aas, also a Khalif, said: “Women are toys, so choose.”[[22]]

According to the great Islamic philosopher Imam al Ghazali, “In the company of women, looking at them, and playing with them, the soul is refreshed, the heart is rested, and the man is strengthened to the worship of God…this is why God said: ‘That he might rest in her.’ (Q. 7:189)”[[23]]

These men were not stating their personal opinions but rather echoing that of their prophet who said, ‘The woman is a toy, whoever takes her let him care for her (or do not lose her).”[[24]]

Barra’a narrated, “The Prophet sent message to Sauda informing her that he had divorced her.” He married her in Mecca. No one among the Quraish would marry him and Sauda was the only woman eligible among his followers.  Barra’s says, “When Sauda heard the news, she sat in the way of the Prophet to Aisha’s house. When she saw the Prophet she told him, I beseech you by the one who has revealed to you the Quran and has exalted you above all the creation to tell me why you divorced me. Have I done something wrong that has offended you? The Prophet said no! Sauda said, I then beg you for the sake of the same God to not divorce me. I am getting old; I don’t need to be with a man. You can use my turn to stay with Aisha, but I wish that in the day of resurrection to be counted amongst your wives. The Prophet agreed and Sauda said that since then the Prophet spent the nights that were her turn with his favorite wife Aisha.” [[25]]

Muhammad decided to divorce Sauda because she was not attractive.  He had now a harem of young wives and Sauda had outworn her usefulness. No mention of Sauda’s age is made.  Ibn Sa’d says she died during the rule of Muaviyah in the year 54 Hijra.[[26]] Muhammad married her about a month after the death of Khadijah, i.e. three years before Hijra. Therefore, Sauda died 57 years after she married Muhammad. What is the normal age of a person? Larger overweigh people don’t live long. But let us say Sauda died at the age of eighty.  80-57=23.  This means she was 23 years old when she married Muhammad who was 50 years old at that time. She must have been young since despite having become a widow, she still did not have a child. If she died at the age of 90, which is unlikely, she could not have been older than 33 years when she married Muhammad.

We can see how Muhammad viewed his wives and women in general. When the greatest scholars of Islam say women are toys, it is because Muhammad said it.

Jabir bin ‘Abdullah, one of the companions of Muhammad, narrated “I was with the Prophet in a Ghazwa (raid/terrorist ambush). He asked me, have you got married?” I replied in the affirmative. He asked, “A virgin or a matron?” I replied, “I married a matron.” The Prophet said, “Why have you not married a virgin, so that you may play with her and she may play with you?” Jabir replied, “I have sisters (young in age) so I liked to marry a matron who could collect them all and comb their hair and look after them.”[[27]]


Women are inferior

The superiority of men over women is ratified in verse 2:228 where it says: “and men are a degree above them (women).”

While the Quran recognizes that the works of men and women are interdependent, it does not regard them as having equal worth.  Men are a step above the women and superior to them. “And it is for the women to act as they (the husbands) act by them, in all fairness; but the men are a step above them.[[28]]

Commenting of the verse (Q. 4:34) Ibn Kathir says, “Men are superior to women, and a man is better than a woman.”

Razi, commenting on Q. 4:11, says, “(The males share is that of two females). Man is more perfect than the woman in creation, and intelligence, and in the religious sphere, such as the suitability to be a judge, and a leader in worship. Also, the testimony of the man is twice that of the woman. So that whoever is given great responsibilities must be given correspondingly great privileges. As the woman is deficient in intelligence and of great lust, if she is given much money, much corruption will be the result. The male is mentioned first in Q. 4:11 because the male is better than the female.”

This superiority as Razi understands the Quran, is due to man’s natural superiority in “knowledge and power, and because the man gives his wife the dowry and spends on her.”

Women are sex objects

For Muhammad; women were nothing more than sex objects. It is reported that he refused to shake hands with them. To get their allegiance he plunged his hand in a bowl of water and then asked the women to do the same.  What is so sexual about a simple handshake? Was he torn between his sexual impulses and his religious ideals? Something must have happened in his mind that made him feel guilty when he touched women.

Jabir also reported that Allah’s Messenger saw a woman, and so he came to his wife, Zainab, as she was tanning leather, and had sexual intercourse with her. He then went to his Companions and told them: the woman advances and retires in the shape of a devil, so when one of you sees a woman, he should come to his wife, for that will repel what he feels in his heart. [[29]]

I wonder how a wife would feel knowing her husband is fancying another woman and is using her to relieve himself.  This is the morality of the prophet of 1.2 billion people!

The Quran and hadith are full of derogatory remarks on women. The following is an example.

Narrated Abu Huraira: “Apostle said, ‘If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relations) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning.’” [[30]]

Doesn’t Allah have anything better to do than worry about the sexual pleasures of his male servants? It seems quite absurd that God would employ so many angels to sit around and curse the women who do not please their husbands sexually. Hadiths like this are repeated so many times that one starts to suspect whether Allah is a dirty old pervert voyeur who gets pleasure watching people having sex.

Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger as saying: By Him in whose hand is my life, when a man calls his wife to his bed, and she does not respond, the One who is in the heaven is displeased with her until he (her husband) is pleased with her. [[31]]

“If a woman spends the night deserting her husband’s bed (does not sleep with him), then the angels send their curses on her till she comes back (to her husband).” [[32]]

Th`e Quran says, “Women are your fields: go, then, into your fields whence you please. [[33]]

Why Muhammad was so concerned about sex? It’s because he was an old man, his teeth were decaying and at least two of them were broken. His mouth had a foul smell. (These are not wild claims. I have backed them all in Understanding Muhammad.)  But his wives were attractive courtesans. They must have enjoyed their status as the wives of the Prophet and the first ladies of Arabia, but as I have shown in my upcoming book, The Life of Muhammad under the Light of Reason, they were reluctant to sleep with him. The warnings about the angels’ curses and Allah’s wrath were to coerce his wives to sleep with him.

Here is another of his obscene statements regarding women.  He said, “After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women.” [[34]]

In every occasion he found an excuse to poison the minds of his followers with ridiculous talks like the following.

“Woman is like a rib. When you attempt to straighten it, you would break it. And if you leave her alone you would benefit by her, and crookedness will remain in her. [[35]]

How can Muslims respect their women when their prophet was so scornful of them, so contemptuous of their faith, so derisive of their intelligence, so dismissive of their rights and so disdainful of their status?

He said, “Many amongst men reached (the level of) perfection but none amongst the women reached this level except Asia, Pharaoh’s wife, and Mary, the daughter of ‘Imran. And no doubt, the superiority of ‘Aisha to other women is like the superiority of Tharid (i.e. a meat and bread dish) to other meals.”[[36]]

Here Mohammad is confusing Miriam, (in Arabic Maryam) daughter of Imran and sister of Moses and Aaron with Mary (also Maryam in Arabic) mother of Jesus. He made the same mistake in the Quran. Miriam is not an important religious figure. She even disobeyed God once.

Muhammad had no regard for women. To him women were sex objects created only to satisfy men.

Women are like domestic animals

In his last sermon Muhammad said, “Now then, O people, you have a right over your wives and they have a right over you. You have [the right] that they should not cause any one of whom you dislike to tread on your beds; and that they should not commit any open indecency (fā ishah). If they do, then God permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain from [evil], they have the right to their food and clothing in accordance with custom (bi’l-ma‘rūf). Treat women well, for they are [like] domestic animals (‘awānin) with you and do not possess anything for themselves. You have taken them only as a trust from God, and you have made the enjoyment of their persons lawful by the word of God” [[37]]

Commenting on the Quranic verse Q. 30:21 which states “And of His signs is that He created for you, of yourselves, spouses, that you may repose in them” Fakhr ad-Din ar-Razi wrote:

His saying ‘created for you’ is a proof that women were created like animals and plants and other useful things, just as the Most High has said ‘He created for you what is on earth’ and that necessitates the woman not to be created for worship and carrying the Divine commands. We say creating the women is one of the graces bestowed upon us and charging them with Divine commands to complete the graces bestowed upon us, not that they are charged as we men are charged. For women are not charged with many commands as we are charged, because the woman is weak, silly, in one sense she is like a child, and no commands are laid upon a child, but for the grace of Allah upon us to be complete, women had to be charged so that they may fear the torment of punishment and so follow her husband, and keep away from what is forbidden, otherwise corruption would be rampant.”[ [38]]

Another eminent Muslim thinker, Hadi Sabzevari, in his commentary on Sadr al-Mote’alihin wrote:

“That Sadr ad-Deen Shirazi classifies women as animals is a delicate allusion to the fact that women, due to the deficiency in their intelligence and understanding of intricacies, and due to their fondness of the adornments of the world, are truly and justly among the mute animals [al-haywanti al-samita]. They have the nature of beasts [ad-dawwab], but they have been given the disguise of human beings so that men would not be loath to talk to them and be compelled to have sexual intercourse with them. That is why our immaculate Law [shar’ina al-mutahhar] takes men’s side and gives them superiority in most matters, including divorce, “nushuz,” etc.” [[39]]


Women are the symbol of disease and affliction

When Muhammad dreamed a black woman, he interpreted it as the sign of disease.

Narrated Salim’s father “The Prophet said, “I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling in Mahai’a. I interpreted that as (a symbol of) epidemic of Medina being transferred to Mahai’a, namely, Al-Juhfa.” [[40]]

Even in religious matters he asserted the symbolic inferiority of women.

Narrated Sahl bin Sa’d: “The people used to pray with the Prophet tying their Izars around their necks because of their small sizes and the women were directed that they should not raise their heads from the prostrations till the men had sat straight. [[41]]

In the following hadith he sealed the eternal enslavement of women.

Narrated Abu Huraira: “The Prophet said, “It is not permissible for a woman who believes in Allah and the Last Day to travel for one day and night except with a Mahram .”[[42]]

As for Muhammad’s great respect for her daughter Fatima, which Ms. Khan stated, it is all made up by Shiites.  The historians report that while Muhammad had given Aisha a slave girl, she gave none to Fatima. She came to complain but Muhammad was not home. His wife Zeinab bint Jahsh told him about it and he went to her home at night. Ali and Fatima were in bed. He told them not to get up. He then placed his foot on the chest of Ali and told the couple that they have no right to complain.  This was the source of enmity between Fatima and Aisha who was ten years her junior.

Muhammad had no respect for Fatima or her husband Ali.  Ali knew it. When Muhammad was on his deathbed, his uncle Abbas pulled Ali aside and said, “Ali, three nights hence you will be a slave. I swear by God that I recognized death in the apostle’s face as I used to recognize it in the faces of the sons of Abdu’l-Muttalib. So let us go to him; if authority is to be with us, we shall know it, and if it is to be with others we will request him to enjoin the people to treat us well.’ ‘Ali answered: ‘By God, I will not. If it is withheld from us none after him will give it to us.’ The apostle died with the heat of noon that day.” [[43]]

This story should put to rest any claim that Shiites have regarding Ali. Apparently Ali had more hope that the believers may elect him as their leader than Muhammad giving him the authority. As history proves, he was so disliked that after the death of Fatima he remained isolated, no one wanting to associate with him. It also answers Ms. Khan’s unsubstantiated and undocumented claim that Muhammad had a lot of respect and love for his daughter. Narcissists don’t love anyone. They use people.

I can write a book on Muhammad’s misogyny. How can any self-respecting woman believe in a man who called her deficient in intelligence and faith, a crooked rib, inferior by degrees, and a tilt upon which her man can enter from whichever way he likes?

My question to Ms. Khan is whether she agrees with the above statements of her prophet.  If she does then there is no point to continue this debate. No one is interested to read the opinion of one who is deficient in intelligence. And if she does not agree, then why she is still a Muslim!


Ali Sina is the founder of faithfreedom.org, a site created to help Muslims see the reality of Islam. He is the author of  “Understanding Muhammad and Muslims”. He is looking for a publisher for his new book The Life of Muhammad under the Light of Reason.

 Women before and after Islam


Persian women before Islam
An Achaemenid Unit of Persian Female Warriors 1000 Years Before the Invasion of Islam

Persian women before Islam 1

Women serving in Persian Sassanid elite cavalry


Iranian women after Islam

Women in Islamic Republic of Iran beaten for exposing their hair

Afghan women beaten
Afghani Women under Taliban Regime

Lat Uzza Manat

Pre Islamic Arabs had such high regards for women that they worshipped three female deities. As with all triple goddesses, a religious concept found worldwide, Al Lat has three manifestations, each one connected to a phase of the moon and simultaneously to a phase in a woman’s life.  The waxing, crescent moon is represented by the maiden Qur,  the young girl and virgin (the Greek Kore, from which Quraish is derived); Al Uzza (the strong one) is the full moon or mother aspect (the mature woman corresponding to the Greek Demeter); and Al Menat is the waning moon or the crone, a wise old woman concerned with fate and skilled in prophecy and divination..

Black stone
The sacred black stone was a symbol of al Lat’s Yoni. The Goddess resided in her aspect of Earth Mother, creatrix of life and helper of women in childbirth.  People came to pray, to ask for offspring and protection, and to celebrate life.

Saudi women

21st Century Saudi Women

Saudi women 1

Under the Sharia a man has complete power over his wives and his right hand possessions (slaves)


[1] Ibn Ishaq p. 118

[2] Ibn Ishaq p.118

[3] Ibn Ishaq, 676; Ibn Hisham p. 582

[5] Bukhari, 3:43:648

[6] Quran 33.30

[7] Quran 33.32

[8] Quran. 66: 5

[9] Bukhari 2: 24: 541

[10] Bukhari 6: 301

[11] Bukhari 2: 18: 161

[12] Sahih Muslim 4: 1926

[13] Quran.4:34

[14] Dawud 11:2142

[15] Muslim: 4: 2127

[16] Mishkat Al-Masabih: vol. 2, p. 690; Muslim: 9: 3506

[17] Bukhari, 6: 60: 132

[18] Mishkat Al-Masabih: vol. 2, p. 692

[19] Bukhari, 7: 72: 715

[20] Mishkat Al-Masabih: vol. 2, p. 691

[21] Al-Musanaf by Abu Bakr Ahmad Ibn ‘Abd Allah Ibn Mousa Al-Kanadi who lived 557H., Vol. 1 Part 2, p. 263. See also Ihy’a ‘Uloum ed-Din by Ghazali, Dar al-Kotob al-‘Elmeyah, Beirut, Vol II, Kitab Adab al-Nikah, p. 52.

[22] Kanz-el-‘Ummal, Vol. 21, Hadith No. 919

[23] Ihy’a ‘Uloum ed-Din by Ghazali, Dar al-Kotob al-‘Elmeyah, Beirut, Vol II, Kitab Adab al-Nikah, p. 34.

[24] Tuffaha, Ahmad Zaky, Al-Mar’ah wal-Islam, Dar al-Kitab al-Lubnani, Beirut, first edition, 1985, p. 180.

[25] Tabaqat V. 8 p. 53-54

[26] Tabaqat V.8  page 56

[27] Bukhari: 3: 34: 310

[28] Quran, 2:228

[29] Bukhari 1: 6: 301

[30] Bukhari 4: 54: 460

[31] Sahih Muslim 8: 3367

[32] Bukhari 7: 62: 122

[33] Qur’an 2:223

[34] Bukhari 7: 62: 33

[35] Sahih Muslim 8; 3466

[36] Bukhari 4: 55: 623

[37] Ṭabarī, The Last Years of the Prophet

[38] Tafsir al-Kabir, Razi, commenting on Q. 30:21

[39] Quoted in Soroush, Abdolkarim, _Farbehtar az ideoloji_, Serat, Tehran, 1373 A.H.S.

[40] Bukhari 9: 87: 163

[41] Sahih Bukhari 1.778

[42] Sahih Bukhari 2.194

[43] Ibn Ishaq 682

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44 Responses

  1. PapaRomeo says:

    Friend, just because these things are written in Bible does not mean it is an endorsement and that man should indulge in it. Most of them are evil actions recorded as an example for man that man should refrain from them. “Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.”(1Corintinans10:6).
    Yes, God gave rules as to how to deal with different situations if the that thing happens, but it is due to “…the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.” Mark10:5, basically to set an order in the society to prevent it from breaking down and to save the victim from injustice arising out from the evils actions of men (the nature of man (including woman) is such that they (even the most righteous i.e. King David) indulged in one form of evil or another ANYWAY, where there is man there is always downfall) . But man are not supposed to indulge in such evil actions is clear in the Bible, like, a man is supposed to have only one wife and not supposed to marry another women while the 1st wife is still alive which amounted to adultery, “Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.” Luke16:18. “Neither shall he multiply wives to himself,…” Deut17:17. “Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.” 1Cor 7:2. God made for Adam only one wife (not nine or multiple, forget about a 09 year baby girl) and Adam said, “This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh (not like a cow or a toy).” Gen 2:23,24.
    Regarding restriction imposed on the woman in the Old Testament like the uncleanness of menstruation (as you mentioned), such type of restrictions are also imposed on man as well (not only woman) like nightfall of man is also called uncleanliness, “Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When any man hath a running issue out of his flesh, because of his issue he is unclean. And this shall be his uncleanness in his issue: whether his flesh run with his issue, or his flesh be stopped from his issue, it is his uncleanness. Every bed, whereon he lieth that hath the issue, is unclean: and every thing, whereon he sitteth, shall be unclean.” Lev 15:2-4. Therefore, Bible has placed man and woman on equal moral footing but each has placed in different order of activities whether be it in domestic circle, society and in service and worship of god, NOT inferior to one another but each beautiful and precious in their own places, complimentary and vital to each other, for living as people of God.
    Regarding “man as head of woman” it typifies Christ as Head of Church, which is His body (as well as bride)”. If Christ is Head, then Church is His Body and they are one Body. The Body has the same form, privilege, place, blessings, glory, power as the Head. If Head inherits something the Body also inherits it. Whatever the Head is the body also is and whatever the Head gets the Body also gets it and where the Head lives the Body also lives at the same place. If the Head is the “Lord of all Glory” then imagine the Church as to what it is, the Church which is made of pathetic man like you and me whose only worthy place it the “Hell of Fire”. Wonderful Truth of God revealed in Christ, the Head of the Church. THIS IS THE BASIS OF RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HUSBAND AND WIFE which each is bound to uphold. “So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.” Eph 5:28-33.
    The relationship of man and woman is complimentary to each other from their own respective sphere. Nowhere in the Bible it is written that man is superior, precious and holy than man NEITHER woman inferior than man.
    What ever is written in OT is “a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ (Col 2:17),…the example and shadow of heavenly things,…(Heb 8:5),…the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things,…(Heb 10:1)”. Therefore, now most of the things written in OT are not taken as literal in the NT as they denotes spiritual things, like, in NT adulterers are not stoned to death like in OT as Christ prevented an adulteress from being stoned, BECAUSE now is the time of GRACE and time for “all men every where to repent:”, “Repent therefore of this thy wickedness,” “Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out,” and “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” “that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” who has “put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.” “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” as “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” for “How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;”

    The Grace of God be with us all, amen.

  2. Hindu says:

    This is very good debate, both from Muslims like Abeid Salim and others like Phoenix and Demsci. But I really liked the well composed and sensible reply of Akshat about Abeid’s comment on 1.5 billions following islam. It is indeed true that many are leaving islam and I know fair few who have left and many who are contemplating on leaving.
    Now, some said about Sati where hindus were burning women on pyres with their husbands. I want to comment on that, so that we are all clear from the misconception. First of all, Hinduism is not a religion. It is a philosphy and way of living. To start with there was no caste mixed in the philosophy, neither there were any burning of women mentioned in any of its thoughts. Its is us, we the human beings, who contorted to our own suitablity…just like muhammad used to do. Only difference here is muhammad would made up everything at night and deliver in the morning whereas so called hindus in those days would derive something out of something that is already existing to suit themselves. Same with the caste system in hinduism. the ancient scriptures said there will be some people to preach the society, some to protest, some to clean and some to sustain. isnt it like this in every household these days? Father or mother or both earns and get their kids to clean and wash sometimes. But we, the human beings, turned this into caste system, divided the society and killed for it. Saati and caste system is indeed a shame to Hindus but we have got rid of Saati and caste system is almost extinct.
    Women, in hindu philosophy, are not looked upon as sex-slaves.Khana and Gargi are examples. Women were free to do anything they like, even they didnt used to cover themselves are there was no fear of getting raped….till the muslims arrived. mhamud ghazni plundered and looted india 11 times, ransacked temples..taken all its precious stones to erstwhile afghanisthan, which was previously a hindu state.
    What I am getting at is the only way we can get rid of cruelty and evil in islam is to wake the muslims up. So, Abeid Salim, please wake up and realise that we dont want islam to fade away but to shed all the teachings about killing and hurting others. I still believe that Hindus, Muslims.Christians , Jews all can lively happily in one room if we are all accommodating andI dont think its a big ask. Peace to all.

  3. Mihir says:

    A comment like "even Ghengis khan himself failed TO STOP ISLAM!!! " tells us a lot about the mind of its author. He thinks his people have achieved something more than Ghenghis Khan IN THE SAME GAME and they have beaten Ghenghis in what he did.

  4. Akshat says:

    Dear Abeid,

    //" You call my prophet a fool,but doesnt it amaze you he has 1.5 billion followers and we are growing fast.He must be a really good fool to control such a mass? "//

    Stop giving a argument of numbers while claiming greatness. Its like saying rats are superior to humans as they are more then 100 billion and humans are only 8 billion.

    Hitler has gathered much more followers in his lifetime then Muhammad did in his lifetime. If World war didn't stopped Hitler's clan then definitely it could also surpass billion mark. No. of followers does not imply the greatness of a figure. but his love for others decides it. You can not find any love in Hitler or Mohammed heart as hatred left no space for anything else.

    Now what should be the criteria of greatness if not the number of followers ? 

    It is irony of universe that lowest and highest display same characteristics if seen  from surface but fortunately there is immense difference if seen from inside. 

    Buddha and Muhammad both have more  then billion followers. we can stop here and keeping both in same bucket of religion. Or we can look the hearts of their prophets.

    Muhammad was centered in himself, not only centered but badly sticking to his center. For him
    world was He and his self centric wishes. Islam was nothing but a ego supply for him. He was ready to kill, loot, rape to continue uninterrupted supply. He never bothered that how much harm his wishes causing to the others. Millions were killed, millions were raped.

    In case of Buddha you can see the reverse he never killed but he was ready to be killed for saving even a goat's life. Buddha has no center or one can say his center was in every living being. his prime concern was the suffering of humans .. He never bothered to create a religion Buddhism was only a byproduct of his love for humanity. He never wished it.

    Keep books aside, Cant you clearly see who is the near to the Idol of humanity ? Dont you feel sad when a reporter is beheaded only because of his faith ? Can Muslims accept same treatment where in minority.

    Now coming to second part of ur comment ……//".Let me remind you even Ghengis khan himself failed TO STOP ISLAM!!! Every western country is bending over just to make muslims happy"//

    Yes its unfortunate but true that stopping the wagon wheel of Islam is toughest challenge humanity is facing. But masses are awakening about Islam not only non-Muslims but Muslims also. 

    You yourself have no idea how many Muslims out of 150 Billion has already left the Islam. Even non thinking Muslims minds are able to identify that there is something wrong with there faith. Thanks to ISIS and Boko-haram and there evil acts. Thinkers are not only leaving but turning into front warriors against Islam. As people who are leaving are silent to keep  their lives safe. It is funny but true that Islam will fall and no one will know.  

    Change by outsider is of no use change should come from within.. and it is really nice to see the Islam will finally be finished by the ones whom it fooled for centuries.. The Muslims.

  5. Anti-Islamic says:

    @anonymous,Dear Here is the other link which exposes the truth of the black stone in kaba http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEOtalpDIVw

  6. Anti-islamic says:

    Dear, Mohammed is credited for committing all these horrible crimes and praised by his own followers Muslims. They are imitating him to spread Islam. Every non muslim reader should know the colorful character of Mohammed and his followers. I don't think that muslims are offended by my comment.
    Mr. Sina's claim that the black stone worshiped by Mohammed is …… of Goddess is true. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74FpCxzhJaQ
    and www. youtube.com/watch?v=aEOtalpDIVw
    I hope you would not mind 🙂

  7. anonymous says:

    With apologies, dear, you should use smart and good words. It shall help in abridging the logical gap between muslims and non-muslims. Although muslims don't have rationale to adhere to their belief, and its not easy to shun what one has been believing in since birth. Please don't consider their intransigence impregnable. Harsh and sarcastic words make reader recalcitrant.  Whoever comes here, has curiosity, either its muslim non-muslim. So, keep environment luxuriant for thinking minds. I hope you wouldn't mind 🙂

  8. anonymous says:

    @Abeid salim
    I had so many questions regarding current relegated status of women around the world, in culture and religion. Story of civilization by will durant provided me some logical answers. Prior to patriarch, befor dawn of civilizations, women had more powers than men and were, in many aspects, at least, equal to men. Or, we can say, men were somewhat equal to women. But, after the arrival of religion, which is product of civilization, value of women started to deprecating. As the religion is man (male) made product so it ascended man over women. Oh, God is also a male. But, man revarated his companion, and devised some deities to pacify her. Its also part of the story that those deities or goddesses were also to serve male needs. Strange thing is that all major religions have this elements. Story of Adam and eve is also available in greek mythology, but with different names and stage and producers. All religions show women as inferior entity. so, when it comes to women status, all religions are apocryphal. 

  9. anonymous says:

     quran consists many verses which are scientific, but, more astounding and bewildering point is that all those scientific verses were not divinely sent. I was shocked when I studied about Greek philosophers who contemplated and drived many facts about physical phenomena around them more then 1000 years before Islam and Quran. In can be deduced that quran it contains pledgerism. You can find it in any book of history of philosophy. Apologies for sentimental distress. But, fact is more obvious than sunshine that moral landscape was designed by philosophers,  not by prophets.

  10. Mihir says:

    To dear Hanif,
    I dont know why my reply to you was not published. I dont know what the moderators found offensive. My reply briefly was that there is no real refutation by that team. They cannot publish the full article "Worlds greates showman"

  11. Hanif says:

    Hi mr. sina

    I really hope you can give me a sincere answer. I'm not here to insult anybody. Maybe your answer can guide me or may even make me to consider leaving islam. I've been having some doubts towards islam lately. Hope to hear from you soon

  12. Mihir says:

    Is this taqiya? That team could not even publish Sina's full article. They published it in parts. The most important section IMO is "Does God punish people?" it is number 13 on page 6 of Ali sina's article in FFI. AC published only the last lines from it (pain receptors) So how is it a refutation?

    Ali Sina rarely responds to AC because their logic is often wrong. they use large bright red fonts to fool careless readers into thinking that Ali Sina is refuted. Read critically and you will see they have no real refutations.

    Some egs.: The AC guy did not prove that "Mountains prevent earthquakes and hospitals cure sick people" analogy makes sense. He just said that it is correct because audience is cheering and that the question "Why most equakes happen in mountains" is poor reasoning. Is this what u call refuting?

    Then they say Ali Sina accepts contradictions in Bible and also Quran. So they lash out at Answer-Islam team for supporting ali Sina though he speaks against Bible. Hello! What about contradictions in Quran?

    AC could not publish even a single section of Sinas work in full. They print ony some lines.Read both Sina and AC side by side. You will see if there is any refutation.

    Ali Sina may not have time to gather all necessary details for things like mountains or biology. So you must check WikiIslam .it has detailed articles for almost every claim in the debate. Mountains, Embryology, Sperm, Flat Earth, Suns orbit, Barrier between oceans, Big bang, Dhul Qarnain, the arrangement of a whale and an angel and big rocks that hold the seven earths, Camel urine, housefly in a drink, spells for curing scorpion stings.

    Seach for Carnegie Stages in Embrology websites. You will see in pictures that there is no clot or leech in those embryos.

  13. Demsci says:

    //"In future all Muslim will not take the  verses seriously as those extremists but you have to understand only a few do and they only do as a result of instability in regions such as a Iraq."//

    When asked about the atrocities committed by Islamic State (or Boko Haram etc), we regularly hear from "ordinary"  Muslims that the Islamic State-people "are not Muslims". But Islamic State-people clearly have said the Shahada, do Ramadan, do Hajj if possible, pay Zakat and pray 5 times a day, which are the 5 pillars of Islam. So how can they NOT BE MUSLIMS???

    I understand that it is impossible to throw those "extremist supremacist, violent criminal" Muslims out of the Ummah. But …. I speculate that many "ordinary" Muslims start to understand that under the current circumstances the "extremists" give Islam a VERY bad name and causes much mistrust of Muslims by the rest of mankind.

    And rightly so, because the "extremists" get their inspiration from Quran-Hadiths-Sira (QHS) and, being enthousiastic about them, study them very well. So how can they be so wrong with their interpretation of QHS???

    This means that at best QHS are somehow far too incomplete, far too vague and hence far too multi-interpretable. And, because of being considered "divine", unchangeable, not to be improved or amended in any way!!!

    So Muslims should realise that Islam to the knowledgeable rest of mankind has a justified bad reputation.

    and maybe, just maybe, a thinking part of Muslims can somehow start a movement with a more symbolic, peaceful, and definitely democratic, interpretation of the vague Islamic texts. And then declare themselves " New Muslims" or "Modern Muslims". And in doing that, this time setting clear conditions upon membership of that "new Islamic organisation".

    With some recognized leadership, that can KEEP OUT or THROW OUT those damned "extremists", who can be called "traditional Muslims" as opposed to the "Modern Muslims". So that the rest of mankind can distinguish a peaceful Muslim from a supremacist violent one.

    Of course this is very difficult for those "modern Muslims" to do, but now,

    now they should be told that it is their own fault that for the rest of mankind, the reputation of Islam and trust in Muslims is very low.

  14. Hanif says:

    Hi Mr. Ali Sina,  

    I would like to ask you a question, hopefully you can answer me sincerely. Few years ago you wrote, a long article debunking this Islamic guy zakir naik, titled 'The world's greatest showman' and you challenged either zakir naik or other muslims to refute your article. The team from answering Christianity has provided their rebuttals to your article, if not mistaken one of them was yahya ahmed. 

    The question is why you have not responded to them? Can you please explain?  

  15. Abeid Salim says:

    I dont usually reply to people like you as your comment is insulting and arrogant but you made me respond by what you wrote because you are just a coward hiding behind a keyboard as i know for sure you wouldnt dare talk like this infront of a muslim. 
     You call my prophet a fool,but doesnt it amaze you he has 1.5 billion followers and we are growing fast.He must be a really good fool to control such a mass? 
      I promise you that we will not let you celebrate 1500 anniversary of ISLAM.// 
    This sentence shows just how stupid and arrogant you are coz unless you are a prophet no one knows what will happen.Let me remind you even Ghengis khan himself failed TO STOP ISLAM!!! Every western country is bending over just to make muslims happy even the great satan cant stop appeasing muslims but we never return the favour in our country so that means we are increasing in all the muslim world and infidels while other religions are decreasing especially in muslim countries thats why they are very few minority in islamic countries,have you ever asked yourself why other religions decrease? 
     I can assure by facts that we will see 1500 INSHALLAH!!! I dont want to respond to your last comment as you are just delusional and you are going to wait for a long long time to celebrate the death of our religion!I have to be honest with you Akshat please pass me what you are smoking!!!! lol!!!

  16. Hindu says:

    @Abeid Salim
    Hinduism is changing with every moment of the time. I  have been atheist, theist, polytheist, monotheist in my belief but I have been Hindu all these time. This is Hinduism but this not with Islam. Hinduism does not contain itself within a box like Islam & Christianity.

  17. Phoenix says:

    understand Islam is different from other religions as ours has laws for everything from political to social//

    Most religions to a certain degree influence their followers in all aspects of society.What makes Islam the worst of all,is that it robs the individual of his or her freedom.To the degree that an ideology suppresses freedom the more evil it is.

  18. Akshat says:

    @Abeid salim
    How come deficient, unclean object like mother can give birth to a male child superior to her . That is why Muslims are most degraded species on earth because they learnt to abuse the Mother, The living creator.

    Did your idiot prophet knew that her mother's mensuration only lead to the development of ovum which later fertile by sperm of his father which finally gave birth to him. Its evident that your fool prophet and whole humanity is product of  same unclean  process of mensuration.

    You criticize other religions saying they all consider females as a inferior creature siting century old examples for each case but you forgot to mention that all religions evolved with time and quit all those practices and still they are evolving in positive direction. But for Muslims clocks were stopped at 620 AD. clearly Islam is a antonym to evolution.

    Things which cant evolve can not survive the test of time. 1400 years is quite less time in human history. I promise you that we will not let you celebrate 1500 anniversary of ISLAM. 

    Yes soon humanity will start celebrating Every year the death anniversary of  Islam as joyfully as a caged bird celebrates her liberation by kissing the limitless horizons.

  19. Phoenix says:


    Atheists do not believe in nothing,they hold many many beliefs.Even "nothing" in atheistic terms refers to something.I know,it sounds strange but that's not the issue here,Islam is and the claims the Quran makes because they're not abitrary claims with minor to zero consequences.Not believing or even challenging the bold scientific,historic and philosophic claims of the Quran can get you killed,imprisoned,lashed or tortured.

    So why do you hold fast to Islam if you've already conceded that it's an absurd religion for which people die and murder for?

  20. Phoenix says:

    @Abeid Salim
    You said:The critics in Islam don't exist mainly because we are in the 14th century as per our Islamic calendar maybe one day we will remove the blasphemy laws but not right now as even Christianity use to have them but they are now 600 years ahead.We are just doing what other religions ahead of us left i.e Christianity and Judaism.(we are in the Middle Ages)//

    You have stated your version of Zeno's Paradox.By the time you reach the stage where the rest of us are at now ,we'd still be 600 years ahead,ad infinitum.Muslims are then forever trapped in a state of arrested development.

    //In future all Muslim will not take the verses seriously as those extremists but you have to understand only a few do and they only do as a result of instability in regions such as a Iraq//.

    I have faith but I base my faith on reason and I have no reason to believe muslims in the future will discard their barbaric practices.There's no instability in Saudi Arabia,Kuwait,Bahrain,Oman and UAE,yet blasphemy and apostasy laws still persist.Even the most secular muslim nation of Turkey still persecutes apostates.
    One more thing,if the majority of muslims are peace loving people and only a few are extremists,then why don't the silent majority change those laws to accomodate minorities instead of persecuting them?

  21. Demsci says:

    //"The main reason why Muslims take the verses literally is because we are in the Middle Ages hence we are still religious infant"//

    You sort of introduce the factor time into the discussion. And in Islamic and Christianic and other faiths there is belief in Judgement day. And the time of most of mankind and of religions will presumably come to an end on Judgement day.

    And of course even Atheists concede that at some point in the future mankind must go extinct.

    But what if Judgement day is postponed for a very long time? Consider that in the time of Mohammed he and other people may well have thought that history would soon end. And hence he announced to be the last prophet, the seal.

    Presumably to correct the corruption of teachings of the multitude of earlier prophets and to complete them. And the last prophet before Mohammed was Jesus, was he not? Now, between Jesus and Mohammed there was a timespan of # 600 years. But since Mohammed there was a time-span of almost 1400 years (632-2014)!

    I for one hope many Muslims will realise that Islam is somehow past it's "expiry-date". Otherwise how can they rationally explain Allah's ongoing inactivity, Him neither ending mankind nor helping trying to improve it's fate (which must have been His reason to "send prophets", must it not?)???

  22. Demsci says:

    //"Anyway no one likes to see their religions being bashed and do nothing about it that is why am here to defend my faith"//

    Your reasons are entirely logical and to (people like) me you are very welcome to defend your faith. Because for discussing about Islam and it's alternatives and the problems Islam  seems to cause for these alternatives of Islam

    (which we Islam-critics crave to do in a non-violent way)

    we need defenders of Islam very much. And although they must endure some vitriolic criticism here, they still get the lion share of attention. And we Islam-critics know that on pro-Islamic websites we almost certainly get banned as soon as we start criticizing Islam in earnest, so the Islam-discussion has to be on liberal website like Ali Sina's. That is why you are most welcome to defend Islam here as best you can, to (people like) me.

  23. pran says:

    reeal answer MR.anti Islamic

  24. Anti-Islamic says:

    @Abeid Salim
    Do you allow your 6 year old daughter to marry 54 year old codger? how could you assume a person as prophet who robs, rapes, massacres people ? Why did Allah permit Mohammed to commit all these insanities ?

  25. Abeid Salim says:

    I wanna reply to since you are a militant theist but you just went off topic before you comment read what I wrote never did I say the bible is corrupted I just quoted some verses to respond to Sina.the answer to your first point I just answered demsci you can read it
     You say that am a. Coward that is why I cling to religion well I got bad news for you no one not hitchens not Sam Harris or even Richard Dawkins have proven that there is no god so let me believe In absurdities as believing in something is better than nothing.

  26. Abeid Salim says:

    The critics in Islam don't exist mainly because we are in the 14th century as per our Islamic calendar maybe one day we will remove the blasphemy laws but not right now as even Christianity use to have them but they are now 600 years ahead.We are just doing what other religions ahead of us left i.e Christianity and Judaism.(we are in the Middle Ages)
    In future all Muslim will not take the  verses seriously as those extremists but you have to understand only a few do and they only do as a result of instability in regions such as a Iraq.

  27. Abeid Salim says:

    The main reason why Muslims take the verses literally is because we are in the Middle Ages hence we are still religious infant I believe Muslims are the most religious people of all religions and you have to understand Islam is different from other religions as ours has laws for everything from political to social
    And of course I believe you know what sharia is which is impossible for Muslims to just be secular alone we must implement sharia whether partially or full sharia mode,as you can see very few Muslims country practice full sharia as its only Saudia and Iran that's it hence you should not be worried about beheadings and choppings.

  28. Abeid Salim says:

    I know that Sina is the prosecutor and I am a defender but I was getting sick and tired of him always attacking our religion and praising others like Christianity even though he is not a christian and this could make potential converts to go to other religions instead of ours as they only read negative things about us and it also increase hatred and fear to other people and they become islamophobics.This is why I have to counter his articles with other religions and Sina rarely replies to my accusations I don't know whether he is scared or?
    Anyway no one likes to see their religions being bashed and do nothing about it that is why am here to defend my faith I hope you understand now.

  29. Phoenix says:

    @Abeid Salim

    True,there exists passages in other religious texts that are similar to the Quran and Hadith.Like Demsci said,those adherents do not interpret their scriptures literally BUT ,even more importantly,and this is where the ultimate difference lie between muslims and other theists – You can criticize hinduism and christianity in public without fear of being assassinated.Do you know of any critics of Islam in muslim majority nations?Of course not!They either dead,in prison or fled to the West.

  30. Akshat says:

    @Abeid Salim,

    Do you hold same view regarding your Mother also ? How come deficient, unclean object like your mother can give birth to a creature superior to her called Abeid salim. That is why Muslims are most degraded species on earth because they learnt to abuse the one who gave birth to them .. The Mother.

    Did your fool prophet knew that her mother's mensuration only lead to the development of ovum which later fertile by sperm of his father which finally gave birth to him. Its evident that your asshole prophet and whole humanity is product of  same unclean  process of mensuration.

    You criticize other religions saying they all consider females as a inferior creature siting century old examples for each case but you forgot to mention that all religions evolved with time and quit all those practices and still they are evolving in positive direction. But for Muslims clocks were stopped at 620 AD. clearly Islam is a antonym to evolution.

    Things which cant evolve can not survive the test of time. 1400 years is quite less time in human history. I promise you that we will not let you celebrate 1500 anniversary of ISLAM. 

    Yes soon humanity will start celebrating Every year the death anniversary of  Islam as joyfully as a caged bird celebrates her liberation by kissing the limitless horizons.

  31. skander says:

    What a stupid argument you are making. It's like saying, Oh Yea, My religion may be stupid, but yours is even dumber. It does not change the fact that your religion is dumb. Ali Sina is not a Christian, therefore does not need to defend it, and neither am I, he has made a point several times that he attacks Islam and not Christianity due to the fact it's Muslims who are murdering and terrorizing the world in the name of Islam, and they are doing that mostly due to Islam. Also, you know that Mohammed claims Allah created the Old Testament and the Gospel, when you insult them, you are also insulting your God at the same time. You can claim the parts you are insulting are "corrupted", but that only shows that Allah's words can be corrupted, therefore you Quran is likely corrupted and not perfect, also, how would you know what parts of the Bible are corrupted and which are true, its very likely that some of the things in the Bible you are insulting is the not corrupt verse therefore you are insulting your own God's word. So to summarize for you,

    1. Claiming other religions are worse, does not mean that yours is good. If all religions are evil and false, then you are just the least evil, but equally false religion. (which through all the evidence however, it's clear Islam is the most evil of all religions)

    2. Using the faults in the Bible to show that the Quran is not the only book full of horrible things only insults your Allah.

    Also, this article is not for the Muslims that are already extremely brainwashed. It's very clear, that Muslims like you have no sense of true morality, but only what a perverted book tells you what is right as you're a coward who is afraid of death so you'll believe in an absurdity to try to avoid it. The article is for Non-Muslims to understand that it's not a good religion and ignorant Muslims who believed all the lies other Muslims told them about how Islam gives woman rights etc. 

  32. Demsci says:

    Fourth; if you compare the influence of Islamic holy texts on Muslims with the influence of Christian holy texts on Christians, I think you will find significant differences.

    Christians do interpret their holy texts, it seems to me, much more symbolic and only valid in the past than Many, many Muslims seem to do. Many Many Muslims still interpret Quran-Hadiths-Sira (QHS) in a very  literal way and still valid now.

    So ideally I like you "to bother" with an answer to this observation by trying to tell us that there are many Muslims nowadays now who interpret QHS in the same symbolic way as the Christian majority interprets the Bible

    (including the texts you mention, which are almost certainly almost nowhere interpreted literally and still valid in our time by Christians).

    See, there is a lot of context that you don't "bother" to give also.

  33. Demsci says:

    Third, in a case of defending an accused, in this case Islam, it is considered a logical fallacy if the defense or any body else tries to exonerate the accused by pointing to the same behavior of the accused by others. This is called the Tu Quoque fallacy.

    And of course, we can point out that Atheists in general do adhere to women's rights more than Muslims seem to do.

  34. Demsci says:

    Second of all, Ali Sina is thus a sort of prosecutor of Islam, the religion, and you are sort of defender of Islam. So you two may both be sort of "prejudiced and one-sided, because that is your job.  And let the judge and jury decide. THEY should be the ones who try to be really impartial, don't demand this from the prosecutor, otherwise we have the right to demand impartiality from you too. OK?

  35. Demsci says:

    Hi, Abeid Salim, I like to answer you on this.

    First of all, Ali Sina is indeed bothered with Muslims only, but IMO he gives good and ample reason for this and I think you should bother to try to understand those from his standpoint and address his legitimate concerns. And his concerns, among others, concern the threat and the danger that Muslims, under the influence of Islam and saying so clearly, justifying violence and oppression with interpretations of Quran-Hadiths-Sira.

    And he mentions above clear violations of women's rights, but in other occasions Muslims, due to and quoting Islam, being very anti-Western and anti-Democratic. 

  36. Akshat says:

    @Abeid Salim,

    Do you hold same view regarding your Mother also ? How come deficient, unclean object like your mother can give birth to a creature superior to her called Abeid salim. That is why Muslims are most degraded species on earth because they learnt to abuse the one who gave birth to them .. The Mother.

    Did your fool prophet knew that her mother's mensuration only lead to the development of ovum which later fertile by sperm of his father which finally gave birth to him. Its evident that your asshole prophet and whole humanity is product of  same unclean  process of mensuration.

    You criticize other religions saying they all consider females as a inferior creature siting century old examples for each case but you forgot to mention that all religions evolved with time and quit all those practices and still they are evolving in positive direction. But for Muslims clocks were stopped at 620 AD. clearly Islam is a antonym to evolution.

    Things which cant evolve can not survive the test of time. 1400 years is quite less time in human history. I promise you that we will not let you celebrate 1500 anniversary of ISLAM. 

    Yes soon humanity will start celebrating Every year the death anniversary of  Islam as joyfully as a caged bird celebrates her liberation by kissing the endless horizons.

  37. Anti-Islamic says:

    @Abeid Salim
    Share your views of Sunni Muslims of ISIS in Iraq. Isn't it true that they are raping, harassing non-muslim women and forcing them to embrace Islam ? Isn't it true that your lecher Mohammed married to more than 12 women, lusted after 6 year old Ayesha, had sex with corpse of own aunt Fatima, kept numerous sex slaves for the sake of sexual gratification ? Your lecher Mohammed used to kiss the black stone( which is vagina of a godess) and you all are kissing the stone
    Actually you all Muslims can do nothing expect having sex with child girls & women ; bombings,massacre,suicide bombings saying Allahuakabar.
    Yes, the real culprit is not a muslim but your Allah( Mohammed's alter ego) who teaches you commit all these horrible crimes.
    o.0 You all muslims will burn in Jahannum(hll) where Mohammed is burning till now.

  38. Abeid Salim says:

    I could mention even hindu scriptures but i think that is more than enough but did you know that it hindus burn their wives on the funeral pyre of their husbands in accordance with sati, an ancient Indian practice of burning oneself alive.They still practise it today even though its rare but Sina is not bothered about this because they are not muslims!!!

  39. Abeid Salim says:

    Sina is back again with another article about women and how they are seen as less equal than men in Islam,the problem with sina is he only reads about ISLAM but does not bother with others.
     Lets find out how other religions say about women or even better let us start with God himself since he is the creator.The Abrahamic faiths all believe that God created Adam first then Eve,many women see this as sexism as they always ask why did he not create them both at the same time.The only reason god created Eve was because Adam was lonely hence she was created to make him happy,this point right here shows why a woman was created was to make a man happy.Hey Sina why dont you start a new topic about God and women before you jump to islam?
    Sexism in in other holy books which Sina NEVER discusses!!!!
    Genesis 3:16 Says that all women must suffer great pains during child birth due to Eve eating the fruit of knowledge.  (As if it is somehow just that humans should pay for their ancestor’s sins nor is a woman dying in labor some how befitting of a crime she did not commit.) The verse finishes of by saying a husband shall “rule” over his woman, stripping us off all power in between the sexes.
    Genesis 19:8 Tells of a man named Lot who offers his daughters to a crowd of would be angel rapers.  Later, Lot impregnates his own daughters after God kills his wife for simply looking back at the remains of her city.
    Genesis 38:16-24 Tells a very interesting story of a man named Judah whom lived with his widowed daughter in law.  His daughter in law was grieving and wearing the veils of mourning which Judah (a rather stupid man) mistook for the clothing of a prostitute. He ended up impregnating his daughter in law and she left the city.  On a later date Judah sees the young woman again and demanded she be burned for being a prostitute (I like how only the woman is punished when THEY BOTH engaged in the sexual act).  It wasn’t until Judah recognized the woman as his daughter in law and she was with his child, that he decided not to kill her.  Basically, Judah can commit incest, use a prostitute (in his mistaken perception), and impregnate a MUCH younger woman, yet he thinks she is the one deserving of death.
    Exodus 21:3-4 Says that if a male slave is given a wife by his master (regardless of how long they are wed, how much they love each other or if they have kids) he can not leave servanthood with his wife or children. The woman and children are merely property of the master and their personal happiness or sanctity of family doesn’t matter.
    Exodus 21:7 God not only sanctions selling ones daughter into slavery, but he also gives out laws on how it should be done.
    Exodus 21:10 God ordains men taking several wives and even sets up laws as to how multiple wives should be handled.
    Leviticus 12:1-8 Explains that a woman has to be purified after giving birth because she is “unclean”.  It goes on to say that birthing a male is cleaner then birthing a female, hence a mother must purify TWICE as long when having a daughter.  This is BLATANT sexism from the point of birth.  A woman is dirty simply for being a woman; this is obviously very biased and chauvinistic.
    Leviticus 15:19-30 Explains that a woman having her menstruation must be avoided to the point of not even touching what she has touched.  It is quite curious that women are punished for simply having a biological function that “God” claims to have created.  What is so just about vilifying what you created?
    Leviticus 18:19 Goes onto say that even LOOKING at a menstruating woman is wrong.
    Leviticus 19:20 Says that if a man has sex with a slave or betrothed woman he must then “scourge” her.  Scourging is a term for a severe flogging or whipping.  I find it quite curious that the woman shall be punished to the point of a beating for such an occurrence, yet the man gets to go free for the deed.
    Leviticus 21:9 Explains that unchaste daughters of priests must be burnt to death.  What about his unchaste sons?  Of course this isn’t even answered in the Torah, we are to assume yet again that men have the power to do as they wish and a woman must suffer the punishment for BOTH of them.
    Leviticus 27:3-7 God places a dollar value on human life; with women worth less than men.
    A woman's lower status to the man's is even related to godliness.
     1 Corinthians 11:3 *
     3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.
    (Head of every woman is the man)

  40. Phoenix says:


    Give us a passage from the Quran which is logically coherent.Self-referencing, as you've done above,leads to a paradox.What does the Quran say that is true.I will only ask for scientific evidence if the Quran makes a scientific claim.Otherwise,a simple valid argument will suffice.

  41. cchuckc says:

    Self proclamation is the worst form of evidence

  42. Talal says:

    [Quran 10, Verse 37]  "This Quran could not have been produced by anyone other than God. In fact, it is a confirmation of what preceded it, and an elaboration of the Book. There is no doubt about it-it is from the Lord of the Universe."  source: http://www.clearquran.com

  43. Phoenix says:

    Islam is a combination of the worst religion in the world coupled with the worst political force.It's truly all encompassing.You can't even sneeze without a mandatory… "may allah have mercy on you".

  44. denialisnoproof says:

    Islam is the most terrible  religion on earth . islam is evil and should be eradicated.

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