There Is a Frog Inside Every Muslim Prince Charming

Dear Ali Sina,

I would like to share my experience with you and other women in my situation.

OK, so where should I begin. I am an educated woman from Norway who went to Oxford to study when I was 20 years old. When I was 24, I fell in love with a man that treated me very good (well, at least in the beginning..). He was born and raised in London, but he was still very true to his religion, which was (unfortunately) Islam.

I was actually very disappointed when he told me that he was Muslim, cause I had seen good friends around me being treated very bad by Muslim men, but because he seemed like such a warm person, I didn`t want to dump him just like that -I wanted to get to know him better. Things evolved and we quickly became inseparable, but then reality started to kick in.

He lived with his controlling Muslim family and they didn`t approve that he had a non-Muslim girlfriend, so in the beginning he had to “sneak around” with me like I was a little secret. That upset me a lot and made me not trusting in him, but he explained that his family would disown him if he had a girlfriend, especially a non-Muslim girlfriend. He said he didn’t want to lose his family until he was 100% sure that I would become his wife.

Eventually as we fell deeper in love he told me that he was willing to go against his family for me, and what a big step that was. I didn`t understand any of that backwards mentality, but I tried to be patient. He said to me repeatedly: “If you converted to Islam today, I would marry you tomorrow”, but I have too much self-respect to change my identity for anyone, no matter how much I may love a person. A person should love me for who I am in the first place, but I forgave him for his ignorance. Eventually I met his family, who came across as quite fake to me, like they were trying too hard to be kind. They were nice to me, but they still nagged me about converting every time I saw them, which I thought was very inappropriate.

I am a spiritual person and I tried to make him realise that he shouldn`t live his life like that, but he had such a tunnel vision and appeared so ignorant at times. And he never read the Qur´an and done proper research of the life of Mohammad -but still he desperately clung to his beliefs! I used to call him brainwashed and we would get into huge arguments when we discussed the bigger questions in life. He wouldn`t listen to any of my beliefs, and I have read a lot of spiritual, scientific and philosophical books through the years. I just couldn`t reach through to him because he would make things up and start talking about other topics once I had proven a valuable point. And he would always say “I won this discussion” when he didn`t have any facts to back up anything. It was ridiculous and drove me crazy!

Sometimes I thought that I should just let it go and respect that he has a different view on life than me, but I was naive because I realised that Islam made him into a bad person. Everything that Islam is; Manipulative, deceiving, controlling, possessive, hypocritical, etc., was also manifesting in his behaviour! I never caught him cheating and he was never violent towards me, but he was possessive and would send “spies” after me whenever I went to a nightclub to hang out with my friends. He would also go into my email and mobile to read messages, when he had absolutely no reason to suspect that I was cheating on him. He lied a lot too, about the smallest things, and I just couldn`t understand why he couldn`t just be an honest person. That would`ve made his life -and my life, so much easier! I also found him very manipulative, always encouraging me to wear ugly, unattractive clothes (so that men wouldn`t look at me).

He lived a double life because of Islam, and he was trapped in a web of lies and deception that made himself (and me!), miserable. Islam also made him a spineless and weak man that was too afraid to stand up for what he believed in. And he was afraid to be an individual.

He was probably in love with me, but still he wouldn`t stand up for our relationship at times when his friends and family were saying something negative about me. His family did not respect me because we weren`t married and I wasn`t Muslim, and sometimes they were really mean. His sister and his brother would send me vicious text messages saying “This is only temporary. He needs to marry a Muslim woman”, etc. My boyfriend would sometimes stand up for me, but other times he would avoid confrontations which made me angry, because I felt like he should`ve defended me every single time!

So there we were, years passed on and we were still not able to progress. He wanted to marry me and he even told his whole family that he would marry me, but I just couldn`t take that risk because of numerous reasons. One of them was that I didn’t want my kids to be Muslim. Another reason is that his whole family tried to control me, pressuring me into converting, and I really dislike it when people try to control me.

But what kept me/us holding on for so long was because of the connection we had, how we laughed and played and how we forgot all our problems when we spent time together. We could just be ourselves around each other. He always played a role when he spoke to his family and friends, but he was able to relax when he spent time with me. He used to tell me that he felt so peaceful when we spent time together. I think that he was able to be his true self around me and I made him happy. He slept with his arms around me every night and he would kiss me at least 100 times every day. I felt loved most of the time, but when we had to face his friends and family, he would change.

That culture/religion caused us so many arguments and it made me feel like my opinions and needs didn`t mean anything, so after 6 years with ongoing problems, I finally left him cause I couldn`t take anymore. I want to start a happy life with a man I can have kids with. I still love him, but I love myself more and I just want to be happy. He still wants to be with me and marry me, but I don`t trust him because he is always so contradictive, he doesn`t stand up for me all the time when his family is treating me bad. He would have to leave his family, Muslim friends and Islam for it to work with me and I highly doubt that he will do that. He loves his family. That`s the complexity of the problem; he feels like I`m demanding too much from him and I`m the “bad guy” for wanting to change him, but I`m only trying to “rescue” him from the dark and oppressive influences cause I`ve seen the good in him. And even if a miracle happened and he left Islam, would he really change his ways and start thinking differently? He is 30 now and it will probably take years for him to let go of all the illusions?

I tried for 5 years to make him change his views and expand his tunnelvision, but it seems utterly impossible! Maybe I`ll give him your book as one last option, do you think that can help him change his views?

Thanks for listening. I love the way you are able to observe and articulate everything that`s wrong with Islam and Muslims.

 

Dear Maeva,

All people are essentially the same, but Muslims are diseased.  The fact that this man lies all the time and the fact that he is jealous and controlling and spies over you reveal a very insecure personality.

A lot of that insecurity is due to Islamic indoctrination, but some of it is because of his Islamic upbringing.  If he agrees to read my book he will leave Islam.  Not a single person who read my book wrote back to challenge me.  I know it works. However, that may be half of the problem.  The other half is caused by his bad upbringing, which requires conscious work on his part to overcome.  After reading my book and admitting that Muhammad was an impostor, he has to also acknowledge how his religion has screwed his thinking and work to undo 30 years of damage.  This is easier said than done.  But I don’t want to cut the hopes of the apostates.  Nothing is impossible when there is awareness and will power. Muslims are damaged goods.  When we leave Islam the damage will not be undone.  But if we are aware of it and work to eliminate it, there is a hope for recovery.

This man’s family is a negative influence on him. In the west people see themselves as individuals. The boundaries between them are well defined. Not even parents sneak into the belongings of their children (which I think they should, but I don’t want to digress). Not so in Muslim societies. There is no boundary between a person and his family. When I was a child in Iran we had a neighbor who used to come to our house and cry on my mother’s shoulder. She was a new bride and lived in the house of her in laws who collectively abused her and beat her. Even her brother in- law used to beat her.

You can’t change this culture overnight. If this man does not cut his umbilical cord from his family, which is very difficult for him to do, you will not have a happy life with him.  In Islam you don’t marry to one person, you marry into his family. As a woman you lose your maiden identity and assume the identity of your husband’s family.  You become part of their clan and the first thing they want to do is to mold you and make you conform to their rules.  This is not something a self-respecting woman can tolerate.

I have received many emails from women saying they fell in love with a Muslim man who at first acted like a prince charming only to turn into a frog.  This is no surprise to me. As I have mentioned in my book every Muslim is a mini Muhammad. Muhammad was a narcissist and so are his followers.  The behavior you described about your boyfriend, are traits of narcissists.  Narcissists have two personalities – one private and one public.  They have a false self that they project to the outside world. They get their narcissistic supply by the responses they get from others when they project this false image of themselves.   Life for them is all about that image.  Even if they are shit inside (pardon the Arabic), to the world they want to project an image of a holy man.  You can’t live with a person like that. There is too much cultural gap between you and Muslims.

You want to live for yourself. All you care is that you and your husband love each other and are happy together.  For a Muslim that is not the priority. The priority for him is his image and that only in the Muslim society.  He doesn’t care about non Muslims, and they don’t care about him.  In the western world people don’t talk about each other.  They mind their own business. In the Islamic world that is all they talk about. Everyone’s life is the business of everyone  else. This is how cults operate. In cults everyone is to watch over others to make sure they do not deviate from the set path.  In Islam  everyone is required to tell others  how to live their lives. Believer it or not, this insanity is a “divine injunction”. It is called amr bil ma’roof and nahi minal monkar.

This man is a victim. All Muslims are victims. Wasn’t Bin Laden a victim? Victimizers are primarily victims. All serial killers and pedophiles have had an abusive childhood. Once an apple becomes rotten, it becomes a threat to its neighboring apples. My heart goes out for him. But there is nothing you can do to help him. You can’t save him. He must save himself and the first step is to leave Islam.

Leaving one’s faith is difficult, but I have made leaving Islam very easy. It takes reading one book to shatter the faith of any Muslim. It can’t get easier than that.  And unlike the Quran that is tedious and boring and really a chore to read through, many people say they could not put my book down. I am sure many Muslims who ask for my book and from whom I don’t hear back do put it down. But they put it down because they see how they are losing their faith and become scared to continue.

If you don’t want headaches and heartbreaks, don’t get involved with Muslim men (or women).  I know that at first they will lie and will tell you that they are not religious. They even drink and have sex outside marriage. None of that proves that they are not Muslim. The only way you can be sure is to ask them about Muhammad. If they praise him they are Muslim. If they voluntarily malign him, tell you to stay away from that madman and his cult, that he was an impostor, a criminal, a pedophile and a mass murder then you know they are not Muslim.  Muslims play taqiyyah all the time. But they generally won’t volunteer to tell you these truths about their prophet. If they tell you Muhammad was a pig, then you can trust them. If not, walk away and save yourself the needless pain. Just remember there is an ugly frog inside every Muslim prince charming. Tell this to every young woman you meet. Our only protection is knowledge.

 

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366 Responses

  1. Prince says:

    " dr Ali sina" should open a circus for stupids only.. too funny and his lies too unrealistic and his hate words show you what he is!

  2. Railway track says:

    You know magnet it sticks only to Iron, The same way we Muslim worship only one god and stick to it.
    You Know gutters (drainage) water that sticks to almost any thing. The people who has answered above or previously (living the Muslims and good people) are compared to gutters people they are waste weight to the earth, they cannot understand simple logic of magnet ,how much forward or educated they are they are considered as dummies. Our prophet (swas) is a messenger not a god he taught us men and women how to lead good life, prophet taught us to pray the one and only god uniformly rich or poor all in the same row .No other religion have like this.

  3. Alma Sinanovic says:

    I can't believe there are people who still have such closed minds and little understanding of life, culture, religion, Islam – even today when you have an opportunity to meet people of every background or belief. You should maybe talk to Muslims who are not attached to any particular culture and who are Muslims by conviction and choice.

    • Ali Sina says:

      How about a little reading. It does not hurt to expand your understanding a bit more.

    • aminriadh says:

      And unlike Sina . . . . don't make it reading from Internet.

      Actual books!

      – – –

      Else – you will end up copying and pasting too – of other people's material!

      – – –

      He in NOT even well read in Persian. A source with 2nd largest base of Islamic knowledge – after Arabic.

      And it was really Persians who really supported and strengthened Islam.

      From Abu Hanfiah to Sibwayah.

    • Ali Sina says:

      \”And it was really Persians who really supported and strengthened Islam.\”

      And it will be the Persians who will get rid of Islam. There are some really great scholars who have daily TV talk shows and educate the people inside Iran. Gradually Iranians are waking up.

    • aminriadh says:

      Again . . . as successfully – the BS and limitations of Sina are pointed out. Again – he could NOT defend his position.

  4. guest says:

    Your all so supportive but know nothing about islam . Doctor zakir naik is an excellent source to consult . He not only can speak original languages of torah quran and bible but has debated all over the world and thus far has had no issues proving the authenticity of the writings . No the other hand there is disgraceful behaviour from so called true muslims bringing such reproach on the main point of the quran. . Please dont get it twisted . The accusations of pedo links are so lame . Go back and research the meaning no being betrothed which is a practice that british and americans also practiceed . The bible has only three inspired books remaining after the council of nicea destroyed the truth . Islam holds JESUS in highest esteem . Its men who dont have the balls to stand up for their rights that cause rubbish courtship situations . . End of the day its not islam thats bad its the people who try to live double lives . Please dont be duped by media propaganda . Because its not the quran that encourages this corruption same way as the bible doesn't allow for pedos but how many disgusting priests have been allowed to continue molesting our children . Watch proper sources of info and im afraid that this book your on about is the result of another misinformed individual .

  5. lorna says:

    i have read this story i myself think.its aload of rubbish and i do believe and of it …i am irish 100% i am martied to a muslim man for last 4 yrs and i have in my life been treated ill in anyway …i also converted to islam and i for one believe in the quraan …i also talk to my husbands family alot and they are very very nice people who are kind and love alot …people are making lies and trouble for muslim people and its so wrong ..pleasre tell me how could she change her boyfriend from his relgion no one can but if he did she would not be allowed in his family and she would be cursed by them noway can any muslim change their relgion not for any girl shes a lie and im going to say ali sina that u say muslim.people are diseased well ur very wrong there …some people in this world exspecially ireland and england in my case are very lucky in wat they have and wat they can get in there lifes this not the case for muslim people they have to work hard for it i love islam and i love allah and i dont care wat other people say or my family u people are wrong you need brains tested seriously bye

  6. Julia says:

    To DramaticEdem.I tell you what ! I have still ANOTHER numerical miracle in your evil Quran.
    The word " CRAP" does not apper at all ! Nada…zero times…0.
    Ain't that wonderful? AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR WHOLE REACTION IS : CRAP !
    Now shut up whit your nonsense ….bye,bye.

  7. Sonya says:

    Dear Ali sina
    I really want to share my own situation which is troubling me everyday, involving my Muslim boyfriend and a very horrible and confusing situation I have now found myself in. Is there a way to email you directly?

  8. Rakesh says:

    Hi ,this kind of story could happen in other religion also ,but the chances are very very low!! ,in Islam people FORCE you to follow Quran ,people will start imposing Islam on their kids since the beginning (That's Brainwashing) ,Almost all Muslims,if you ask me how can i make this approximation ,all my Muslims friends i am talking about!!. But in other religions they do not force you ,I belong to Hindu religion ,yes i worship Elephant god :) ,my parents never forced me to read Vedas.well, even if they do there is no hate speech in Vedas :P ,and please do not give me any reference from Vedas which teaches violence ,we do not follow that ,that is the reason we have not invaded any other country in last 10000 years :P , see this is the beauty of Bible and Vedas ,there is no hate speech, we do not force our kids to follow our religion so badly. I am proud to be a non Muslims,i have my freedom with me :D ,seriously you Muslim people should think and decide ,if you do not want to join any other religion ,at least do not follow Islam or just follow the good parts of Quran which you think is good for humanity. Let me ask all Muslims ,have not your parents or some friends pulled you into this [Islam] ??

  9. Ali says:

    The crack you took today Julian must be real good quality as you are on a real high.

    But I know a better story? And do you know what that is?

    Here you go:

    My name is Julianchandrateeshram, I am a Hindu man living in a schit infested village in some remote part of India, all the while claiming to be a female, which in reality means I Julia am a tranny, claim to be an Atheist but use Satan in my arguments even though I don't believe in his existence, am a Hindu living in a schit infested village in some remote part of India again, come from nothing, have nothing, will go to nothing, but believe in something, was created by particles in midair, my lungi just came out the wall out of nothing, my blanket just made itself, Durga my god is waiting for me, but I am Atheist Hindu prescribing to Hinduism even though I don't believe in a God, am classed as the ignorant and am privileged that the likes of Ali and Aminriadh are giving me an audience and are entertaining my dribble, Islam is the Truth and Muslims are the chosen ones, I, Julian am truly lost, deaf, dumb and blind, cannot for the life of me work out why I Julian am so retarded and dumb, do worship dik daily, cannot understand 1 of 2 which means I am a handful of stupids that do not grasp the meaning of 50/50 despite the world knowing 1 of 2, and am now finished thanks to Sam Bacile and his movie.

    Take that to the bank dik worshipper. oooops…………they don't have banks in your village do they?

    :D

  10. julia says:

    THIS ALI(EN) THE SILLY,RETARDED MUSLIM MATHEMATICIAN TRIES TO BABBLE SOMETHING !!
    ALL THE VISITORS OF THIS SITE ARE LAUGHING ABOUT , ESPECIALLY SINCE YOUR "PROBABILITY "-ACT !!!! GOOD LORD ( not the evil IDOL ALLAH)…..YOU ARE REALLY STUPID ….BUT FUNNY ! I LIKE TO PLAY WITH YOU LIKE A CAT WITH A MOUSE ! HAHAHA !!!!

    • Ali says:

      @Julian. Is the pressure getting to you tranny?

      Still trying to work out 1 of 2 like Loki are you?

      Dimwits come dime a dozen, but retards like you, come once in a lifetime. You really are making my days with the amount of intellectual beatings I am giving you. Damn, you are so retarded, you blindfolded a blind man.

      Your whole world has crumbled in one day. Now what?

      Give thanks to Sam Becile for your downfall. And the best part is, he's from your Islam hating brigade!

    • julia says:

      HAHAHAHA !!!
      DID YOU ASK A MATHEMATICIAN ABOUT YOU PROBABILITY "PROBLEM"?? YES, I KNOW IT IS A BIG PROBLEM FOR YOU ! HOW CAN IT BE …YOU ARE ONE OF THE "CHOSEN" ( CHOSEN BY A NON-EXISTING GOD , THE OLD IDOL ALLAH !!!
      YOU DARE NOT HEY , BACKWARD KID !!!
      BY THE WAY,WHAT ABOUT MY PROOF THAT ISLAM IS SATANIC. PERHAPS YOU MUST ASK YOUR MASTER AMIN-RAT, HE IS SOMEWHAT MORE INTELLIGENT !! (I.Q. 1/5 ).

    • julia says:

      OH….I ALMOST FORGOT !! LISTEN ALI !
      I WILL TELL YOU A WONDERFUL SHORT STORY !!!
      THERE EXIST NO MORE BEAUTIFUL FAIRY TALE.
      IT IS FROM ALLAH HIMSELF….AND NO ONE CAN BRING A BETTER STORY,THOUGH IT IS VERY,VERY SHORT !!
      ATTENTION,FASTEN YOUR BELTS ….HERE IT COMES:
      " ALIF,LAM,MEEM "!
      THAT'S IT ….WASN'T THAT WINDERFUL ?? A REAL MIRACLE !!! HAHAHAHAHAHA (sorry ;-)

  11. Ali says:

    How can you be advertising Muslim Matrimonial sites on here when you hate Islam so much?

    Wouldn't Muslims marrying Muslims create more children thus Islam growing?

    I suppose, having heard the shock of Sam Bacile making 'your' movie before you could even muster up the funds, you have to change income generating game plan.

    I told you, you was an asset to Muslims.

    What's next. Selling Islamic gifts from the site and endorsing the Quran?

  12. ex muslim says:

    Agree Julia and Raj. Marrying a 6 year old girl was the first thing that troubled me in Islam. That was a long time ago. Islam is a thing of the past now for me

    • julia says:

      RHANK YOU ex muslim !
      HAVE A HAPPY AND FREE LIFE !!
      WHO WANTS TO BE A SLAVE ANYWAY ???? ONLY MASOCHISTIC MUSLIMS !

  13. Ali says:

    Not in your lifetime Julia, rest assured.

    Your god Ali Sina has been at it since 1994 and look what's happened? Islam has gone from strength to strength! Now that must be a biatch of a pill to swallow.

    It's been 1400 years and look around you?

    Dream on because that is all you can do about Islam and defeating it. Dream, which will never ever come true.

  14. Ali says:

    @Raj. Finally, spoken like a true Hindu.

    Before discovering Islam, discover who created you!

    • Raj_Humanity says:

      The Stupid Muslim Ali,

      I am not a HIndu by faith. I am a Hindu in the sense that – I belong to Hindustan. But I would also say that I have sympathies for people of Hindu faith and consider them as my brothers.

      I have to repeat to you again and again – the one true God is my creator.

      Allah is not the one true God. Allah is Satan. Devil/Mohammad/Lucifer/Iblis are the other names for this source of evil.

      Islam is a big lie created by Satan Mohammad.

    • Ali says:

      Hindu following Hinduism is Hindu Raj the dung worshipper.

      You can put whatever spin you want on it, but you are Hindu idol worshipper and don't worship One God. You don't belong to the Abrahamic Faiths of Judaism, Christianity or Islam.

      At first you claimed Atheism, then Hinduism and now Monotheism, but still claiming to be Hindu following Hinduism being an Atheist! Stay off the dung worshipping fumes for a day or so, so you can think straight and make your mind up.

      You will say anything to please your god Ali Sina.

    • Raj_Humanity says:

      You good for nothing stupid Muslim Ali

      I told you repeatedly that I believe in humanity and in the one true God which your Allah is not.

      Your Allah is a big lie. A piece of fiction. Allah is a mouth piece of Mohammad. Mohammad is Satan.

      You cannot understand that plain simple – you moron.

      I sympathise and fully respect the Hindus. They have their own belief system. I have my own set of beliefs. Hindus do not hurt anyone – my experience in living with the Hindus. I have friends among Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, etc. Living among the crowd – tells you many things. The Muslims are bullies. Hindus never instigate or start disturbances. They may retaliate. But never begin.

      I like the teachings of Buddha.
      I like the teachings of Krishna.
      I like the teachings of Jesus.
      I like the teachings of Guru Nanak Dev.

      I DO NOT LIKE THE TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD.

      I believe in the one true God – Ishwar or Paramatma.

      I hope I have made everything clear for you.

    • Ali says:

      I told you, you was Hindu following Hinduism. Just look at your reply. You keep confirming it time and time again without even realising it.

      The subtle hints are always there.

      Humanity and One God? You mean man made humanity and your millions of gods.

    • ABC says:

      exactly except islam , all other faiths teach good things.

    • ABC says:

      ali
      ur hateful talks and your absolute contempt to people of other faiths actually ENDORSE what ali sina says much betetr than anything else.
      please the crux of it all is only this :
      you believe in allah and feel great about ur religion hence please continue to do so.
      however my problem arises the moment u start mud slinging at other faiths. it is YOUR belief that allah created man. kindly do nto force it down others' throats. please get hang of the fact, just as u believe in ur ideology we believe our god created us. no contest …………. ur house urs, our house ours.
      thats is what freedom fo faith is. but i know u will NOT ACCEPT that. becuase islam says so. it make su beleive so.
      and another thing, females are not just objects of lust. females give birth to men and nurture them. so give them more respect than u do now.
      even if a female is non muslim she is still wrthy of some preliminary respect. if u do, u give ur faith a good name, if u dont then u have nor eason to complain when we talk ill about you.

    • Ali says:

      @ABC. I couldn't give a rats a@@ about what you believe or what you don't believe or who you want to worship.

      I don't have contempt for other faiths, I have contempt for Hindus coming on here pretending to be atheists just to please Ali Sina, and then slating Islam in order to gain brownie points. It seems that 99.9% on here are Hindus doing exactly that. Even if it was anyone else bar Hindus, I'd say the same about them.

      We know we are the best of the best. Not because of where we were born or what shade our skin is or texture of hair, but because God Himself said so. Muslims who follow Islam, that's who. And that Muslim could be anyone from across the globe. Islam is a universal religion open to all and not the selected few with a caste system like Hinduism.

      You ABC are delusional at best thinking we want you or everyone to become Muslims. This is a choice left to everyone individually. You want to make your bed, so you must lie in it.

      I am am only dealing with the hatemongers using their own golden rule. If you got a problem with it. Tuff luck.

      If you believe in your ideology, then why the fcuk are you on here slating Islam?

      I rest my case.

  15. Ali says:

    @Raj. No matter how you dress it up, you are a Hindu. following the tenets of Hinduism.

    Stop pretending to be something else in order to please your god Ali Sina.

    At least be true to yourself Hindu!

    • Raj_Humanity says:

      @ stupid Ali the stupid Muslim

      I think I have repeated stupid four times above.

      I have told you again and again. I do not follow Vedic religion. I am not a Hindu by faith.

      I am a Hindu – because I belong to Hindustan.

      I believe in the one true God and in humanity.

      Whereas, you Muslims believe in a false God called Allah and are enemies of humanity.

      Get that also drilled into your thick head.

      And even if I were Hindu – nothing to be ashamed of !

      I would be ashamed of being a Muslim though.
      Muslim means one who believes in Mohammad. Mohammad – the one who raped, looted, raided, killed and even had child sex. It is called pedophilia by people who have just common sense.

  16. Joker Life says:

    @ali
    Stop blabbering puberty puberty. You dont need a medical degree to understand that its painful for a 9 year old girl to have sex with a 52 years old guy, due to physical ability.
    Here is a pic how it would look like to marry a kid by grandpa. http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t

    • Ali says:

      Stick to the facts of marriage at puberty 1400 years ago, all around the globe please Joker Life. It was not a Muslim or Arab phenomena and invention.

      No historian claims that all these people were sick perverts. Historians would call anyone who made such a claim to be arrogant and very stupid who has no grasp or understanding of history. Which is exactly the case with you Joker Life.

      You conveniently brushed your own scriptures under the carpet and moved on, despite it still being prevalent in your society in this day and age. Heck, you guys still marry your children to animals in order to please your man made rubbish.
      http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/02/18/us-indi

      Why are there still child marriages in India and why are you not condemning Christianity wholesale for still practising it in Bolivia? As a matter of fact their age of consent over there is set at puberty no matter the gender.

      Keep your ant Islamic tripe all to yourself, and shove it straight up Uranus in one. Like we couldn't see you a mile off?

    • Ali says:

      Stick to the facts of marriage at puberty 1400 years ago, all around the globe please Joker Life. It was not a Muslim or Arab phenomena and invention.

      No historian claims that all these people were sick perverts. Historians would call anyone who made such a claim to be arrogant and very stupid who has no grasp or understanding of history. Which is exactly the case with you Joker Life.

      You conveniently brushed your own scriptures under the carpet and moved on, despite it still being prevalent in your society in this day and age. Heck, you guys still marry your children to animals in order to please your man made rubbish.
      http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/02/18/us-indi

      Why are there still child marriages in India and why are you not condemning Christianity wholesale for still practising it in Bolivia? As a matter of fact their age of consent over there is set at puberty no matter the gender.

      Keep your ant Islamic tripe all to yourself, and shove it straight up Uranus in one. Like we couldn't see you a mile off?

    • Raj_Humanity says:

      @ Ali the Stupid Muslim –

      Just look at the age difference you moron! Aisha 9 and Mohammad 55 – more than 46 years of age difference – Mohammad could have been a grandpa of this child – you stupid!

    • Ali says:

      Don't clutch at straws dung worshipper Raj. It was the accepted norm all around the globe. And the best part is, you fkers in India still practice it today, despite what your law says. Even in your Hindu religion it mentions it.

      Exactly when did social attitudes change towards it, you silly k-unt? Around the 19th Century. So, do you wholeheartedly unconditionally condemn very single human being from the beginning of creation until recently for participating in this practice?

      I thought as much.

      Two faced prikks.

    • Raj_Humanity says:

      Ali the moron Muslim

      You do not have an answer. That is the reason!

      Age difference of 45 years ???? And that too from a Prophet of God???? Are you mad???

      Well all of this can happen in Islam – where the girl is only 9 years old and Mohammad marrying a girl child of 9 years when he himself is 55.

      Why justify the norms when your Prophet started new norms? Did not he start a new norm by marrying an adopted son's daughter?

      A Prophet of God should establish a correct new norm. Why did he follow accepted norm in case of pedophilia ???

      Whatever pleases Mohammad? Whatever satisfies his lust? Whatever is good for him is accepted as norm???

      In plain language it is called bull schit

      It was a norm for the Meccan pagans to worship the idols at Kaaba – then why did Mohammad establish a new norm?

      Whatever suits Mohammad and his argument?

      Only Muslims can swallow this lie wholesale.

      I am not calling you a two faced prikk. What is glaringly visible need not be pointed out.

    • Ali says:

      Comprehension has never been your strong point Raj and this is clearly evident in all your replies.

      There has never been an age barrier in any way shape or form throughout history where the accepted norm was to be married at puberty. Nowhere was it frowned upon when marriages took place between two people despite the age gaps. You have absolutely no grounds for even an audience on your view, thus the historians calling the likes of you naturally stupid.

      " A man, aged thirty years, shall marry a maiden of twelve who pleases him, or a man of twenty-four a girl of eight years of age; if (the performance of) his duties would otherwise be impeded, he must marry sooner." [ Manu IX.94 ]

      Exactly what is different in the above which is your divine law, with what you are arguing? Who says that 55 years and 9 is more repulsive than 30 and 12 or 24 and 8, apart from your personal opinion.

      Were your Rishis paedophiles for writing the above laws and practising them? Yes they were, so Hinduism wholesale is a Paedo religion using your own logic, because Manusmṛti, is the most important and earliest metrical work of the Dharmaśāstra textual tradition of Hinduism.

      Christianity is also a Paedo religion, wholesale, because Bolivia which is predominantly Christian also has age of consent at puberty in this day and age, let alone 1400 years ago.

      So is Judaism, as they used to marry their girls very very young.

      Exactly what was Moses?

      "They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man……..Now kill all the boys (innocent kids). And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man". (Numbers 31:7,17-18)

      And according to Jewish Rabbis a girl aged 3 years and one day is betrothed by intercourse.

      In the seventh century, 3 year old girls were burned to death or tortured in Europe for copulating with demons, witches and sorcerers. Strong sexual passions were attributed to the youngest children. Even Jean Bodin, one of the greatest legal authorities of his time, said that the appropriate age of consent for a female was 6.

      (3 year olds did not in fact have sexual relations with demons. It is however interesting to see that at that time it was publicly believed that child-adult relations were the fault of seductive children who sought out mature men).

      The next time you make claims, make sure they are correct and not some schit you swallow from your Guru.

      Before you even point fingers at Islam, deal with Hinduism, Judaism and Christianity on this subject first, and then come to Islam you retarded fool.

    • Raj_Humanity says:

      I told you I am not a Hindu.

      Secondly, the Rishis have never claimed they are perfect. Have they?

      Mohammad is claimed as the last law giver and the most perfect by Muslims.

      You Muslims say that other religious scriptures are corrupt, other religions are corrupted. That only Quran is not corrupted. That Mohammad is faultless and blemishless.

      So it is expected of a true prophet of God who is blemishless and faultless to establish a correct norm – and not to indulge in pedophilia.

      Why look at the wrong practices of other religions and quote them? You have to argue that Mohammad set a correct and true norm/precedent. Argue that.

      Do not justify 55 year old Mohammad's marriage to 9 year old Aisha by quoting the scriptures of the Hindus and the Jews. Muslims anyhow believe that their scriptures are corrupted – so why quote those scriptures?

      If 55 year old Mohammad wanted to set a correct norm or precedent he would not have married a 9 year old girl. – 46 years is a big difference. A lustful man can marry though – whatever be the difference!

      Conclusion : Mohammad was lustful and a pedophile.
      The person who is Insan-e-kamel is a pedophile.

    • julia says:

      I'M NOT A HINDU EITHER Raj_Humanity .
      But this little muslim rascal thinks that everybody is a Hindu, because he lives among them . And they make fun of him, of course !
      Ali(en)-( the "mathematician"!) You are stupid and retarded….That's of course not your fault !
      The problem is that your parents are full cousins !Selfish, lustfull Mohammed agreed with this kind of incest, because he wanted Zainab the wife of his son.So it came in the Quran ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (auch, f!ck) .

    • Ali says:

      Oh yes you are a Hindu subscribing to Hinduism, Julian.

      You don't even know who your parents are, you're a fine one to talk.

      Get back to the dik worshipping dude.

    • julia says:

      — "Comprehension has never been your strong point Raj and this is clearly evident in all your replies. "
      THIS SAID ALI(EN) THE PROBABILIY-SPECIALIST WITH A WHOLE NEW THEORY. !!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!( AUCH !!! PLEASE JULIA, STOP !! IT HEARTS ,YOUR LAUGHING ) . ;-)
      — "Before you even point fingers at Islam, deal with Hinduism, Judaism and Christianity on this subject first, and then come to Islam you retarded fool. "
      THIS IS A SITE THAT CRITISIZES ISLAM,… YOU MORON !!! OF COURSE PEOPLE ARE POINTING AT ISLAM HERE !!! WAKE UP….INBRED MUSLIM CRETIN !!! ( I hope that you'r not offended now…it is so painful for you ).
      But keep quiet ,little poor retarded slave ….HUSH !! HAHAHAHAHA ( AI !!! )

    • Ali says:

      Stay off the pipe Julian.

      You're retardness may go into overdrive.

      1 of 2 and Julian? ROTFLMAOPM (rolling on the floor laughing my a@@ off pi@@ing myslef)

      Stick to the dung worshipping like the rest of your clan.

    • Julia says:

      YOUR EVIL PROPHET, THE MERCI FOR ALL MANKIND (?), SHOULD HAVE STOPPED THIS VILE PRACTICE OF CHILD MARRIAGE ( CHILD-FUKCING ! ), IF HE REALLY WAS A MERCI FOR ALL MANKIND ( CERTAINLY FOR LITTLE CHILDREN ). NOW IT IS FORBIDDEN IN ALL CIVILIZED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, EXCEPT OF COURSE MANY MUSLIM COUNTRIES !! EVEN IRAN ( AYATOLLAH CHOMEINI APPROVED IT ).
      DON'T TRY TO ESCAPE BY POINTING AT OTHER PEOPLE, THIS SITE IS ABOUT ISLAM !!

  17. Joker Life says:

    Ali and aminriadh both supported violence in islam and now making up things as usual.

    I said twice that i am not fan of Ali Sina, but now I must say I have become fan of Ali Sina.
    Ali Sina knows what lurks inside an islamic mind. I think Ali Sina is the only one who can convert Zombies into human being. Keep up the good work and set people free.

    • ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌ says:

      Dear pea sized brain ,

      There is a rational violence in Islam and in this world and in universe. We admit highest IQ level to be anti-Islamist is 112. We care less about these things !

    • denialisnoproof says:

      islam and rationality are just opposite words.
      islam means surrender,subjugation and slavery.
      if you question anything in islamic countries you will be deemed apostate and beheaded.
      so please tell your bullcr@p of muslims being rational to someone else

    • ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌ says:

      Stupid assertions ! Aren't you tired of this spending life time doing this ! I hope your children or grand children will accept Islam one day !

    • Ali says:

      You still here trying to put 2 sentences together about Islam denialisnoproof?

      I thought you'd be off to the mandir doing some dik polishing by now!

      :D

    • aminriadh says:

      You are NASTY litttle lair aren't you – who has trouble with the truth.

      " Ali and aminriadh both supported violence in islam and now making up things as usual. "

      When and where – have I ever supported violence?

      – – –

      "I said twice that i am not fan of Ali Sina, but now I must say I have become fan of Ali Sina. "

      Which again shows . . . you are lying.

    • Julia says:

      "When and where – have I ever supported violence? "
      YOU ARE A MUSLIM ,AREN'T YOU ??
      SURAH 2:216 SAYS:
      "Fighting ( ARABIC QITAL= KILLING, MAKE WAR !) is ordained for you, even though it is hateful to you. But it may happen that you hate a thing that is good for you, and it may happen that you love a thing that is bad for you."
      THERE ARE MANR SURAHS LIKE THIS ….YOU SURELY MUST KNOW THAT !!!
      SO …YOU ARE THE LIAR HERE , AMINRAT !!! WE ALL KNOW THAT !!!
      OF COURSE YOU WILL COME NOW WITH SOME SILLY ANSWER, TRYING TO LOOK "COOL" AND INTELLIGENT …BUT IT WILL AGAIN NOT WORK.
      WE DON'T RESPECT THE MUSLIM-MOB ! WE DON'T RESPECT ISLAM AND WE CERTAINLY NOT RESPECT YOU EVIL FAKE PROPHET, ALSO CALLED : THE INSANE CAMEL ( THIS IS A JOKE AMINRAT !) .HAHAHA !! DON'T BE OFFENDED ;-)

    • aminriadh says:

      This is the person . . . Sina allegedly banned. Yeah right. . . . the games Sina plays.

    • Ali says:

      How can he ban himself?

    • julia says:

      I MENTIONNED CLEARLY A SURAH FROM YOUR OWN EVIL BOOK !
      YOU GAVE NO ANSWER…..BECAUSE YOU CANNOT ! ONLY WHYNING LIKE A SILLY KID !
      WHY SHOULD I TREAT YOU NICE ,WHEN YOU MUST FIGHT ME ACCORDING TO YOUR WICKED BOOK !!???
      I have told my reasons , and obviously Ali Sina agreed with me.
      SINA DOES NOT PLAY GAMES….IT IS I WHO PLAYS WITH YOU !!! STUPID MAN !!
      NOW ANSWER SLAVE !!! YOU ARE A SLAVE AREN'T YOU ??

    • Ali says:

      At least you've finally come clean, Joker Life!

      Why didn't you just admit it from the beginning, rather than going round in circles before finally admitting your cultist subscription.

      You actual words, logic and sentences give away your membership of the Ali Sina club. You guys all sound the same, are Hindu and from India.

      What more do you want us to say?

  18. aminriadh says:

    ""lavishing many praises on Islam?"
    so, Islam supports violence. "

    See how senseless and meaningless your statements are becoming and generally are.

    • Joker Life says:

      i proved it, not me. I went anti-gandhi (violence) and you jumped immediately with the line that i am praising islam.

    • aminriadh says:

      Not you praising Islam – you bleating Idiot – I was talking about Ghandhi . . .

      If you could read . . .English . . . you might have figured it out.

  19. Joker Life says:

    Life is only good till an age of 3. After that parents and society together ruin kids life saying you have to live your Life 'Line by Line' as de(pre)scribed in hollybook. Plus when you grow up you have to use all the scientific discoveries of kaffirs and keep blabbering about the religion of peace at the same time when killing of innocence people is taking place all over the world in the name of religion.

    I dont understand how someone choose to live his/her entire life as a big lie.

    • Ali says:

      @Joker Life. So your life must be real schit then!

      You are way over the 3 year old mark. Right?

    • Joker Life says:

      did you check the word blabbering in the dictionary ?

    • Ali says:

      You said it yourself. 'Life is only good till an age of 3……….'

      Or are you now implying I said it?

      That's the problem with you 'Atheist' Hindus. You always seem to talk about rubbish, and backtrack when we ALWAYS put you in check on this schitty site.

    • Joker Life says:

      always ? this is my third time on the site.
      i belong to hindu culture but not an atheist and I do believe in God.
      I always thank God that i am not born in any religion and so I didnt get brain wash on age 3.

    • Ali says:

      @Joker Life. You are Hindu mate. 99% of posters on here and Ali Sina's fans are.

      How could you be born into Hinduism, claim to be Atheist and believe in a God? Usual tripe.

    • Joker Life says:

      " I belong to hindu culture but not an atheist " Read properly what I said. Dont pick up the lines in hurry that interest you.

      About Ali Sina, I am not fan of Ali Sina. I even dont favor USA government anyhow. They dont have any ethics. No God allows Killing of innocent people, children and women.

    • Joker Life says:

      But I think some american soldiers can still analyze their deeds and so some of them reveal the truth behind the attacks and feel guilty. At least America gives such a freedom to express oneself.

    • Ali says:

      So you ARE Hindu then?

      Hinduism IS a religion and the Belief in God IS a theism. So being Indian and not being born into any religion despite claiming to be Hindu, exactly when did you become a follower and practiser in Hinduism? What attracted you to Hinduism and not Sikhism or Buddhism or Christianity or Islam, as they are all available in India?

      I told you 99% of Ali Sina's followers were Hindu, and yes you do follow him, thus being on here, promoting the anti religious anti Islamic tripe.

      You can dress it up how you want, a leopard will never change it's spots.

    • Sanatan Dharma says:

      _________So you ARE Hindu then__________
      No, Ali Sina is not Hindu. Because he is living in Canada. Hindu are those who live in Hindustan(India). In ancient time India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan was one country which is called Hindustan.

      BTW I think we can say Ali Sina is follower of Sanatan Dharm (Eternal religion).
      To be follower follower of eternal religion/Sanatan Dharma one need to do is:

      ‘To accept truth through a continuous process of rejecting falsehood every moment to best of one’s abilities in the most sincere manner is Sanatan/eternal/Vedic religion’
      Yajurveda 1.5:
      “O Supreme Force governing the world! You function as per unchangeable laws which remain the same throughout without slightest of deviations. May I also seek inspiration from You to be unflinchingly principled in my life. Thus I resolve to seek truth constantly by eliminating the false from my life every moment to the best of my abilities, intentions and efforts. May I be successful in this noble decision of mine.”

    • Joker Life says:

      He was saying to me. The next reply is to Ali with SUPER maths 2+2=4.

    • Joker Life says:

      2+2 = 4 again?
      There wern't any religion before some 2000 years ago, all were cultures. If you say Hinduism is religion, then I would say its forcefully created religion just to make an identity in front of islam, christian and other religions. Nothing stands between me and God, not even man made word 'religion'.
      If you still want to say Hinduism is religion, then call it Hindu Dharma and not a religion. Understanding Dharma is not easy, but for me one reason to follow Dharma is questing oneself, finding and following the truth.
      Following ali sina ?? I think i need to leave this site, like someone said earlier 'fighting with evil a long time makes you an evil'. I should better invest my time learning Sanskrit and Veda.

    • aminriadh says:

      "There wern't any religion before some 2000 years ago, all were cultures."

      And where did you get that? What is a culture? If not composition of several elements . . . including religion.

      – – –

      "If you say Hinduism is religion, then I would say its forcefully created religion just to make an identity in front of islam, christian and other religions. Nothing stands between me and God, not even man made word 'religion'. "

      Whole load of Bullshit. . . .

      – – –

    • Joker Life says:

      @aminriadh
      Let me search on google if anyone can have IQ below Zero.
      Either you dont understand my point of views or as usual you cant stand against it. You are still stitched to word called 'religion'. Why dont you search how religion word invented.

    • Joker Life says:

      @aminriadh
      By the way, there are so many questions left unanswered on this website.

    • Ali says:

      Don't make the door hit you on the way out then Joker Life!

      I suggest you do follow your own advice and go learn Sanskrit and Veda. Exactly who are Indra, Varuna and Agni, and what culture do you attach to them when doing the whatever you guys do, as you claim you don't follow any religion?

      See Ya.

      :D

    • Joker Life says:

      Super advice Ali. I never knew that a muslim can lead a better path to non-muslim that he/she can't follow. I think Ali Sina's thoughts are working on you.

    • Ali says:

      Answer please.

      Who are Indra, Varuna and Agni?

    • Joker Life says:

      Well, it's a long way to go to understand all these.

    • Ali says:

      Don't worry Joker Life. It's not your fault. You are only the by product of your environment.

      'Came in like a wolf, went out like a lamb'.

      ;)

    • aminriadh says:

      Lamb? Come on . . . . I have seen many a brave lamb . . . also they are very tasty.

      I highly doubt 'Joker Life' is either!

    • Joker Life says:

      The site is about muslim not about my personal faith. You dont have to know about my faith to prove your hollybook is right.
      I am just raising a question that how a grandpa aged guy can marry a little child and still people like you try to justify such act.
      Although i dont support violence, in india a young guy stabbed a child molester outside the court when neither court nor government punished the molester well even though there were enough evidence against him, whereas your religion calls such person a prophet.

      By product is you who's ancestors were raped and looted and then converted to a zombie and still you dont realize.

      Thanx to zakir naik and internet (invented by kaffirs) from where i came to know about double faces of muslims. I am getting into islamophobia more and more. Naik is a hindu surname and one can easily realize that what mughals had done to his ancestors that such big liar and traitor is born in india.

    • aminriadh says:

      " The site is about muslim not about my personal faith. You dont have to know about my faith to prove your hollybook is right. "

      Why thank you . . . we don't. I am glad you agree that our Holy book is right!

      – – –

      "I am just raising a question that how a grandpa aged guy can marry a little child and still people like you try to justify such act. "

      What you on about?

      – – –

      "Although i dont support violence, in india a young guy stabbed a child molester outside the court when neither court nor government punished the molester well even though there were enough evidence against him, whereas your religion calls such person a prophet. "

      Now you are clearly making things up.

      – – –

      " Naik is a hindu surname and one can easily realize that what mughals had done to his ancestors that such big liar and traitor is born in india. "

      Actually – Niak was a military title. Isuppose that is where the surname comes from.

      – – –

      All you can do is ramble on and on . . I doubt even you know what about . . .

      Clearly you are very impressed by one Zakir Naik. And he has deeply, deeply affected you.

      – – –

      If you cannot handle criticism about your own faith . . . why dish it out?

      Go and do something useful.

    • Joker Life says:

      are sitting at seventh sphere and making comments ?? You always pick up lines and make something illogical outcome.

    • aminriadh says:

      " You always pick up lines and make something illogical outcome. "

      Then why is it . . . that you cannot prove me wrong?

      Might I suggest – if you improved your English . . . it might help you to understand better.

    • Joker Life says:

      I follow gandhi ji , but it doesnt mean anyone should allow child molesting. child molesting is the worst act that anyone can loose temper, but only zombie like you can establish child molester as a prophet.

    • aminriadh says:

      "I follow gandhi ji "

      So what was wrong with Ghadhi – lavishing many praises on Islam?

      How do you reconcile your 2 obvious conflicting positions.

    • Joker Life says:

      you are good at picking up the lines.
      If a thief enters into your home, you dont have to be a gandhi and give a peace sighn, you must react and that could lead to violence without your choice just because of the thief's act.

    • aminriadh says:

      Oh . . . so you DON'T follow Ghandhi. Or only selectively do so.

    • Joker Life says:

      "lavishing many praises on Islam?"
      so, Islam supports violence.

    • Ali says:

      How can it be child molestation you dimwit when it was the accepted norm in all sections of society to marry at puberty, right across the globe. I have already broken this issue down thoroughly with evidence in Europe and America even as late as the last century on another post, so I suggest you dig it up.

      Additionally, do you have any idea what the current age of consent in Bolivia and 2 States of Mexico are? And what religion they follow?

      Are you aware of your own Scriptures and what is says about marriage?

      Here, let me remind you:

      " A man, aged thirty years, shall marry a maiden of twelve who pleases him, or a man of twenty-four a girl of eight years of age; if (the performance of) his duties would otherwise be impeded, he must marry sooner." [ Manu IX.94 ]

      Come on Mr I don't follow religion but am Hindu and must go back to Sanskrit and Vedas, explain your scripture?

      In this day and age, according to UNICEF, 47% of girls are married by 18 years of age, and 18% are married by 15 years of age in India and child marriages are very much prevalent in India. Not by the Muslims, but by Hindus. The highest rates are seen particularly in the rural states of Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, and Uttar Pradesh.

      And for the nail in your coffin, the caste system is also believed to have contributed to the growth of child marriage. Castes, which are based on birth and heredity, do not allow two people to marry if they are from different castes. This system was threatened by young people's emotions and desires to marry outside their caste, so out of necessity, child marriage was created to ensure the caste system continued.

    • Joker Life says:

      Hardly anyone have read Manusmruti in india, and people have logic not to blindly follow anything. What makes you think Manu Smruti is God's word ?

      Dont talk about Cast system when a non-arab muslim is not allowed to marry an Arab girl, but an arab can marry a non-arab muslim lady.
      But yes we do have cast system, but people are free to believe in it or not. inter cast marriages are common nowadays.

      child marriages still exists but its between male child and female child and not between Grandpa aged guy and little child. they are not allowed to leave together nor do sex. Most marry again in the later age. The marriages are mostly a promise between parents at both side and not to run the life by two kids. But we dont have any hindu-laws to follow blindly. Child-marriages are illegal in india.

    • aminriadh says:

      "Dont talk about Cast system when a non-arab muslim is not allowed to marry an Arab girl, but an arab can marry a non-arab muslim lady. "

      Stop making any old lies up . . .

      You are a disgusting little liar aren't you.

    • Raj_Humanity says:

      @ Ali the stupid Muslim

      // Accepted norm // ????

      Should not Mohammad be setting the correct norm?
      Since he being the Prophet of the all knowing Allah?

      A true Prophet should bring in changes which are correct .

      Mohammad failed on two counts. One is that he married a child – A true Prophet would not have married a child. Two – the age difference. A true Prophet of God would not have married with such an age difference.

    • Joker Life says:

      "Why thank you . . . we don't. I am glad you agree that our Holy book is right!"

      Its not me, it you who made up yourself. You come here by making up a mind that your hollybook is right, that is what i pointed out. It doesnt mean i am agree.
      You just make question against question to cover yourself. so lame.

    • aminriadh says:

      Ha ha ha . . . have you READ what you actually wrote. . .

      Here let me repeat it:

      " The site is about muslim not about my personal faith. You dont have to know about my faith to prove your hollybook is right. "

      – – –

      "You just make question against question to cover yourself."

      But dearie . . . if yo go back and read . . . I answered – it is YOU who has failed to address any issues.

      People like you always lead any arguments – to such petty semantics. . . .

      . . . . this is obviously well above your level. Might I suggest – start with improving your language skills.

    • Ali says:

      But our Holy Book is right and not yours.

      Get over it.

    • denialisnoproof says:

      you keep telling that to yourself
      the quran is a compilation of wet dreams of muhammad very incoherent,baseless cr@p.
      lot of mistake with schitty arabic language

    • Ali says:

      @denialisproof. Don't hate.

      Not our fault you are bottom of ladder.

    • aminriadh says:

      "By the way, there are so many questions left unanswered on this website. "

      And . . . what do you want me to do about it?

    • aminriadh says:

      "Either you dont understand my point of views or as usual you cant stand against it. You are still stitched to word called 'religion'. Why dont you search how religion word invented. "

      This is typical of anyone who actually is lying and covering up their ignorance. . . the thing is you – yourself do not know.

      Hence such a reply . . . .

      Also you first instinct was an attempt to insult me rather than concentration on the argument.

      "Let me search on google if anyone can have IQ below Zero. "

      Trolls do that . . . who can only come up with such lines.

      – – –

      "Why dont you search how religion word invented. "

      If you are the one who has already searched . . . why don't you share? After all this what you imply. . .

      . . . you can so tell when you have caught out a someone one fiddling. . . they attempt to shift the burden of proof on to you.

    • Joker Life says:

      "This is typical of anyone who actually is lying and covering up their ignorance. . . the thing is you – yourself do not know. "

      This line is actually suitable to you. You always make some weird excuses that doesnt make any sense, because you know what I am trying to say.

    • Joker Life says:

      About religion, i would surely share the history of the word religion with facts.

    • aminriadh says:

      "About religion, i would surely share the history of the word religion with facts."

      Then why don't you? That is what i said . . . prove what you claim.

      Else don't make claims that you cannot prove. . . or someone will challenge them and expose you as a "liar".

    • Joker Life says:

      I always debate keeping in my mind that someone will surely prove me wrong.
      Surely I will return with facts about the word 'religion'.

    • aminriadh says:

      "I will return with facts about the word 'religion'. "

      What this means is that . . . YOU DO NOT HAVE THE FACTS RIGHT NOW.

      Hence your claim was a lie . . . point well proven.

    • Joker Life says:

      I dont have one liner proof like you that doesnt make sense most of the time.

    • aminriadh says:

      "I dont have one liner proof like you that doesnt make sense most of the time."

      Considering my English is far superior – comprehension problems rest with you.

      You are nasty, lying little individual.

      Internet has good term for such people – "Trolls".

      All you are interested is insulting Muslims. Boo Hoo.

      – – –

      You are incapable of hold a civil conversation . . . without resorting to either lies of insults.

      Abode of the ignorance. . . . .

      – – –

      You claimed something . . . of which you knew NOTHING about . . . then you said you will return with evidence ONCE YOU HAVE GONE BACK AND READ IT.

      Meaning you lied above . . . you did not know what you were talking about.

      – – –

      Then there is this response:

      "I dont have one liner proof like you that doesnt make sense most of the time."

      You have no proof – that is obvious – as you have admitted it.

      And it makes perfect sense too . . . which one can deduce from your response.

    • Ali says:

      @Joker Life. You are a Hindu following the teachings of Hinduism, so that is you religion.

      Period.

      Don't try and squeeze blood out of a stone, just to prove you can, because you never will.

    • aminriadh says:

      "This line is actually suitable to you. You always make some weird excuses that doesnt make any sense, because you know what I am trying to say. "

      Such as . . . . either prove this by giving examples – or else you are lying. i have no need – and am too smart to make "weird excuses"

      Either you will prove this statement of yours . . . or you won't. If not, then you were making things up.
      – – –

      Let us look at one fact here . . . My English is far better than yours. Might I suggest – comprehension problems rest with you.

    • denialisnoproof says:

      may be you should kiss kaba then you will understand spirituality

      bullshit is muhammad having it with a 9 year old girl.and you muzies following it like a brain dead idiots

    • Ali says:

      Spirituality? And that from a dik worshipping faggot?

      Tell us denialisnoproof, what spirituality is there in dik worshipping?

    • denialisnoproof says:

      It is not just dik it is both dik and vagina if you carefully observe
      Here we are trying to see the sacredness of intercourse and procreation which is helpful in birth of new life
      so isn't this spirituality?
      Will this get into your narrow minded islamic brain?

    • aminriadh says:

      If that is your intelligence level . . . leaves a whole lot to be desired!

    • denialisnoproof says:

      Ali
      If every body became muslims 100 years ago .We wouldn't have had any worth while inventions. As everything is created by god no need to explore anything .There would have no critical analysis.All that people would have done is red herring just like you are doing

    • Ali says:

      But the point is everybody did not become Muslim and never will. Theory again!

      Why go back 100 years? How did you determine that measuring yardstick?

      Stop keep changing the goal posts for your glove to fit.

      Nobody is asking you to become Muslim, so fk off and live your life. Stop hating, stick to idol worshipping and get on with your life.

    • Joker Life says:

      You got a super idea that bowing down to idol made of stone is not good. What makes you think Idol worship is bad ? can you prove it anyhow ?

    • Truth Seeker says:

      @Joker Life
      How can bowing before "kaaba stone" bring any benefit for you?

    • QurratAlAyn says:

      "What makes you think Idol worship is bad ? can you prove it anyhow ?"

      We'll answer this Joker Life. But first,please specify 'which' idol do you worship.

    • Joker Life says:

      Why ? do you have different meanings for different Idol worshiping or what ?

    • QurratAlAyn says:

      That doesn't answer my question Joker Life.

      You aren't embarrased to say,are you?

    • Joker Life says:

      question against question, doesnt it embarrass you ? You talking like you possess phd in idol worship. Keep your guns loaded, but it won't help. For a counter attack this website is not right place. Lead me to any anti-hindu website, and we will have debate.

    • aminriadh says:

      'Joker Life' – I don't think you are capable of a debate . . . for one thing – your English isn't up to standard.

      Also – I don't think you know what an 'argument' is and isn't. And the difference between a valid and fallacious argument.

    • denialisnoproof says:

      asking question against question is not debate .
      muslims are narrow minded people ,they are against every religion except for following their psycho mo and pimp allah

    • QurratAlAyn says:

      He didn't say it is,either.

      "Lead me to any anti-hindu website, and we will have debate."

      He commented on this.

      "muslims are narrow minded people ,they are against every religion.."

      Relax.

      We're not interested in the least bit to know your views about Muslims. After all,your views don't change the truth,do they? When 10 years of Ali Sina's sweating didn't make an iota of difference,you think you have a chance?

    • aminriadh says:

      "muslims are narrow minded people ,they are against every religion except for following their psycho mo and pimp allah "

      What is this . . . which intelligence is this . . . you repeatedly come up with such petty comments.

      THIS IS ALL YOU ARE GOOD AT. And that is it.

      – – –

      You are simply not able to hold a civil conversation . . . never mind a debate – which is far beyond your capabilities.

      You lack the appropriate basic language skills . . . as you suffer comprehension problems. Then there is lack of an ability to form valid arguments . . . that are bedrock to a debate.

      You are NOT interested in any debate either . . . . all you are interested in is trading insults . . . which is meaningless time waste.

      – – –

      " asking question against question is not debate . "

      Another complete lie . . . as the top comment shows . . . there were no questions there.

    • QurratAlAyn says:

      "You talking like you possess phd in idol worship"

      I don't need to possess one to explain you the theory behind idol worship,Joker Life.

      "Lead me to any anti-hindu website, and we will have debate."

      I asked you a simple question,and you thought I'm in for a debate?

      Don't be embarrassed to say what you believe.

      Out of the 3,33,00,000 gods/avatars,which one do you believe in?

    • denialisnoproof says:

      We follow our constitution .
      muslims shouldn't ask mullahs to have sex with your wives once you give divorce to them
      why do you ask your woman to have sex with someone else if you want to remarry the same persom again

    • QurratAlAyn says:

      "We follow our constitution."

      And what,may I ask,is your 'constitution'?

      "muslims shouldn't ask mullahs to have sex with your wives once you give divorce to them why do you ask your woman to have sex with someone else if you want to remarry the same persom again"

      I'm not sure I understood what you're trying to say.

    • Joker Life says:

      3,33,00,000 gods/avatars ?? its 33,00,00,000.
      And at that time the population wasn't even 33,00,00,000
      so are you trying to say every one has diff god in just one family ?
      At least apply the logic before you say something.

    • Ali says:

      So who made this figure of 330 million gods up?

      What does the word koti mean?
      http://vedabase.net/k/koti

    • QurratAlAyn says:

      Whatever the figure is.

      'And at that time the population wasn't even 33,00,00,000
      so are you trying to say every one has diff god in just one family ? '

      At WHAT time?

      "..so are you trying to say every one has diff god in just one family ?"

      Not me Joker Life,it's your acharya who say that.

      "At least apply the logic before you say something."

      I merely stated the number of gods according to your belief.

      Now,coming to my earlier question,which god do you worship? The name.

    • denialisnoproof says:

      it was a very good question . you just showed your islamic snobbishness

    • Ali says:

      That's because we Muslims are better than you pagans and are therefore snobby. We're not saying it, God Himself said it!

      98:7 (And) lo! those who believe and do good works are the best of created beings.

      This doesn't apply to you Hindu pop idol, x factor, american idol worshippers now, does it?

      You made your bed, so lie in it!

    • Raj_Humanity says:

      [ God Himself said it ]

      Now do not put words in God's mouth which has been said by your Satan Mohammad who has invented Allah.

      Snobbishness comes from the Devil Allah and not from the one true God.

      For the one true God all humans are equal and they differ only when these humans do harm to others. Such humans who do harm to others are known as Muslims.

      The one true God wants us to love Him and to love each other.

    • Ali says:

      Don't talk out your Uranus Raj.

      How dare you even make that comment considering your belief system of Hinduism, promotes the caste system where no human is equal? Exactly which one of your millions of Gods said that humans were equal and why is there caste system then?

      We Muslims are the best of created beings. Period.

      Like I said before, not because I said so, but God Himself said so.

      Don't hate,…….. appreciate!

    • ABC says:

      your god end'ored rapes of captured women and children. your prophet had sex with a 9 year old when he himself was 50 years!! , he killed someone's husband by torturing him and had sex with his wife ont he very same day.
      today the world knows arab sheikhs buy young girls to satisfy their lust. history stands testimony to varous massacres conducted by islam on innocent populations ……….
      and why to talk about all that, look inside your heart …………. dotn u feel liek killing kafirs irrespective of their virtues ???
      im amazed u even try n talk about the ills of other faiths, which exist no doubt but are no where near yours.
      ever heard te'h saying " those who live in glass houses ? ….
      and why teh HEEL SHOULD WE APPREACIATE SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY HATES US? MAKES NO SENSE.

    • Ali says:

      Game over ABC. Game over.

      You have nothing left. The cat is out the bag and Islam is still here, flourishing and growing.

      Sam Bacile who is from the same anti Islamic clan as you guys, has single handedly finished you and Ali Sina off.

      What are you guys going to do now?

    • denialisnoproof says:

      just baseless assertions . but the fact is 70% of arabs are illiterate . once they become literate they spit on quran and leave islam

    • aminriadh says:

      "but the fact is 70% of arabs are illiterate . "

      Prove it? Which figure are you using?

      This is an out and out lie . . . you have called it a "fact". Which it isn't

    • Ali says:

      @denialisnoproof. According to UNESCO, the literacy rate in India is 74.1%, with Egypt having 66.4%, Yemen with 62.4% and Morocco at 61.5%. Every other Arab nation is way above your Indian level. Even Libya is 97.7%

      Now what does this tell us, either the UNESCO are lying and you are telling the truth or you are lying and UNESCO are telling the truth? Do you really want me to spell it out for you on who the liar is?

      If 70% of Arabs are illiterate, then you must have invented Microsoft, denialisnoproof.

      If you are going to lie, at least make it a good one!

    • denialisnoproof says:

      blah blah blah

    • Ali says:

      @denialisnoproof. Did the cat cut your tongue by any chance.

    • Ali Sina says:

      I don\’t worship anyone and anything. But I am also curious to know why worshiping idols is worse than worshiping Allah.

      Both are imaginary deities. Idols are the avatars of some imaginary deity. Allah\’s Avatar is a black house. You Muslims go around the Ka\’ba and kiss its walls and the black stone in its corner. You don\’t think any of that is Allah. It is the house of Allah for you. It is a physical representation of something intangible. The same is true about the idols. Neither the idols have any power not does Allah. So why worshiping one is better than worshiping the other.

    • ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌ says:

      Worshiping idols is different than worshiping Allah coz Worshiping idols is like having toys , pet under the control of human nature where as worshiping Allah is submission which controls human nature.

      Idols are finite imaginary caged things where as Allah is infinite and infinity is not an imagination.

    • denialisnoproof says:

      idols are nothing but symbols.
      why do billions of muslims go and kiss a stone?

      don't you know kabah was destroyed and was urinated upon by a invader?

    • QurratAlAyn says:

      "idols are nothing but symbols."

      Says WHO,denialisnoproof? Vedas? or your acharyas?

      Vedas do not agree with your idea of idols being symbols.And when you aren't aware of your own belief,as distorted as they are,I don't think your views about Islam makes any impact anyway.

      Idols are nothing but symbols,you say.Symbols of what?

      "why do billions of muslims go and kiss a stone?"

      So you mean to say when you kiss something you infact worship it?

      When a mum kisses her child,does that mean she worships him/her?

      "don't you know kabah was destroyed and was urinated upon by a invader?"

      In your dream? This is not storytime,denialisnoproof.

    • aminriadh says:

      " You Muslims go around the Ka\'ba and kiss its walls and the black stone in its corner."

      There is NO kissing the Kaba walls . . . and neither is kissing the black stone either a Muslims worship or incumbent.

      Also it is once in a life time thing for most . . . if that. To equate it to common Muslim worship – or even imply – is dishonest.

      Or ignorance on your part.

      – – –

      "You don\'t think any of that is Allah. It is the house of Allah for you. It is a physical representation of something intangible. The same is true about the idols."

      Actually no . . . idols are multiple representation of multiple deities. For Muslims Kaba – is practically at most – unified direction of prayer.

      Muslim theology is strongly based around the concept of a Single Deity.

      – – –

      Anyone with passing familiarity with Islam – would comprehend this. To misrepresent this – as you have done is . . . well – how treacherous and deceptive.

      – – – –

      "So why worshiping one is better than worshiping the other. "

      The difference lies . . . in believing the one thing you hold to be true . . . and other to be true. Again – a simple and basic concept.

      – – –

    • ABC says:

      ok one question to monotheists ……………….. how can u proclaimyour god is only true!? and ours is false??
      PROVE IT!
      anddont give the hypothetical BS of what happens after we die.
      no one has seen that and none can testify that.
      talk about this earth and prove it.
      ur monotheist god preached , provoked and condoned killing of innocents who were following their own faiths and had done nothing wron ecxept not pacifying his ego by submitting to him as he demands.
      our god did not!
      now the ball is in ur court to prove ur god is better than ours.
      prove it.

    • Ali says:

      We don't need to ABC.

      You're own scriptures say it. Have you read them?

      What does this mean:

      "Ekam evadvitiyam"
      "He is One only without a second."
      [Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]

      "Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah."
      "Of Him there are neither parents nor lord."
      [Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9]

      "Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam."
      "His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye."
      [Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]

      "Na tasya Pratima asti"
      "There is no image of Him."
      [Yajurveda 32:3]

      "Sages (learned Priests) call one God by many names."
      [Rigveda 1:164:46]

      "Ma cid anyad vi sansata sakhayo ma rishanyata"
      "O friends, do not worship anybody but Him, the Divine One. Praise Him alone."
      [Rigveda 8:1:1]

      "Devasya samituk parishtutih"
      "Verily, great is the glory of the Divine Creator."
      [Rigveda 5:1:81]

      So you see ABC, One God and not the 330 million or whatever you worship.

      Your own scriptures say One God and that One God is the same as ours, yours, Jews and Christians. He is One and Only and not some idol with 20 arms and 10 heads or something.

      Is the ground starting to open under your feet yet?

    • julia says:

      YOU WERE A HINDU ONCE ALI !!!
      ADMIT IT DOMBO !!
      you are a bit like the apostle Paul , but you took the wrong turn !
      Kid….you'r funny !!! HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!

    • Ali says:

      You taking the crack again Julian?

      Which part of the UK was Hindu?

      Please tell me.

    • julia says:

      YOU ARE AN EVIL MOHAMMEDAN, AMIN-RAT !!
      YOU MUSLIMS 5 TIMES A DAY TO THIS KAABA WITH THE BLACK STONE IDOL ! IT IS YOUR QIBLA !!! MOHANNED,YOUR FAKE PROPHET KISSED THIS STONE IDOL ! YOU MUST FOLLOW YOUR EVIL PROPHET ( INSAN AL KAMIL ) AS MUCH AS YOU CAN !!!
      BUT YOU ARE ASHAMED OF THIS PAGAN PRACTICE !!!

    • ABC says:

      i cudnt have put it better myself. u see i am born into hinduism and the first thign which troubled me was …………… how cud the idols not protect themselves when mughals were demolishing them.
      i tmeans they dotn have any power …..
      it is just the belief of followers which matters.
      if u ask me frankly i dont believe in concep of god at all. so many cases of child abuse would nto be happenning if there was god AT ALL.
      any god would step in to protect a child , but nothing happens where ever blood of an innocent person is spilled.
      the concept of god is a fallacity.
      but i have not renounced hinduism ……… i do follow it in limited capacity becuase there is nothing so bad in it to put me off it completely.
      further me beliefs in god are not going to protect me from islamic zealots who think my disbelief in god is due to fallacity of hinduism which the superior islam can eradicate.
      no thanks just becuase i do not believe in god who could nto protect children, i am sure as hell not going to believe in a prophet who was a pedophile.

    • ABC says:

      i also see u have not been around for some days. i hope everything is fien at ur end. it must be very tiresome to talk and reply to people who are just blind in their beliefs. i must say the job ur doing is great. u had the courage to look beyond what you were conditioned into believeing and seeking out the truth. i hope this keeps your spirits high while doing the insipid job of talking to muslims :)
      good day.

    • julia says:

      "…i am sure as hell not going to believe in a prophet who was a pedophile. "
      GOOD THINKING ABC. !!
      This kind of thinking is not the retarded and brainwashed muslims like
      ALI !!!

    • Ali says:

      You still talking Julian?

      I thought you would be down at the local mandir doing some dik worshipping!

      :D

    • ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌ says:

      If your parents vaccinated in your butt cheek when you were 3 years old , you wouldn't have lived Joker life!

    • Joker Life says:

      And if your parents didnt brainwashed you at the age of 3, you won't be leaving such a nameless life.

    • Ali says:

      Told you, you had an agenda and are an Hindu from India following Sina.

    • ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌ says:

      I have opted to void imposters of nick. You seems self loathing idiot ! No wonder you follow a belief which give rise to jokers , human with animal heads and wacko creatures monkey men !

    • denialisnoproof says:

      Do you know your muhammad rode buraq a horse with beautiful woman's face peacock tail and wings? Those who live in glass house shouldn't throw stone at others home.

      Let me narrate you true story of buraq.

      muhammad had a first cousin by the name um hani daughter of abu talib.
      Mohammad lusted for her but abu talib married her to some pagan.
      After muhammad gaining power and coming back to mecca he was spending lot of time in her house.

      once he was caught with his pants down by the people but when confronted he started his bullshit saying that he was riding a horse with beautiful woman's face called buraq also he visited jerusalem and heaven riding that buraq.In reality he was riding his sister um hani.

    • Ali Sina says:

      This story is not true.

    • denialisnoproof says:

      do you know buraq? wacko muhammad rode it :D

    • ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌ says:

      Buraq is almost always portrayed with a human face in far-eastern and Persian art, no Hadiths or early Islamic references allude to it having a humanoid face. more

    • denialisnoproof says:

      in sirath al rasul it is mentioned so please try to fool someone else

      buraq was indeed umhani the first cousin of muhammad
      when he was caught with his pants down he started his crap

    • Raj_Humanity says:

      Let us make this thing clear. There may have been portrayal of a winged horse with a human face in many of the cultures. But Mohammad's Buraq was different.

      How was it different? It was a female called umhani his cousin sister which he rode at night to jannat.

      Then when day time came umhani folded her wings and became human.

      Islamic lie after lie.

      It is a plain fact – Mohammad had his night out with umhani.

    • ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌ says:

      Grow up hopeless !

      Why didn't your God with monkey face and God with elephant face ever married? Probably they have used their tail and trunk for sex otherwise there would be some of you like them in world and you would have proof ! lol

    • denialisnoproof says:

      far eastern ?
      one more taqqiya

  20. A'ishah says:

    "Muslims are diseased."

    That line alone should invalidate your post.

  21. Muslim says:

    This story has nothing to do with Islam.It is a mindset of a damaged and confused mind, a mind that doesn’t look at things logically from its perspective position with an objectivity and fairness to the subject.

    This story happens everyday around the world like any other stories out there,big deal, but just because our protagonist is a Muslim , it becomes a big deal story that take all focus and headlines in all major networks.Its gear changes from a normal daily story to a high gear of alert,hate, and name calling out of logic and civility,which shows the severity of the damage that a person’s mind has.

    Now let us analyse and examine some logic of this mindset so called ” dr ” Ali Sina , and figure out what kind of “doctor” he is : Is he Dr evil,or the Dr that he claims to be to save humanity ?

    ” All people are essentially the same, but Muslims are diseased…”

    Is this logic ? According to this logic non-muslims they don’t lie,they have secure personality,not jealous,not controlling…etc even though ( All people are essentially the same ) which make Muslims and non-Muslims are in fact alike.The exception here shows one thing only:The fixed sick mental attitude towards only one kind.

    But wait,I will show you how sicker his mind is,the contradictions and the foggy state his brain suffer from.

    “This man is a victim. All Muslims are victims. ” Now, all Muslims are victims instead of all “Muslims are diseased ” . Can’t you please make you mind up “doctor”.This is this absurdity,craziness and confusion.This is senseless ,laughable and funny.

    “They even drink and have sex outside marriage. None of that proves that they are not Muslim.”

    Don’t you know “dr” that a Muslim doesn’t drink,doesn’t have sex outside marriage,doesn’t lie…etc ? So what you are describing here is non-Muslims behaviors.You actually shot your foot man Be careful. If I am wearing shirt with an USA design and it happens that I live in France does that make me an American ?

    “Just remember there is an ugly frog inside every Muslim prince charming. Tell this to every young woman you meet. Our only protection is knowledge.”

    What an epic end this is ! Bravo Dr Sina.Lol. If this story it happened narrated about another protagonist;let’s say a Hindu from these dumbest followers goons, what would you say in your epic conclusion ?

    My Epic conclusion to So called “Dr” Sina is : Whoever is trying to bring you down is already below you .

    I’ll be right back.

    • Vijay says:

      i have seen so called Muslims drinking, going to prostitute and telling a lie to nation they live in. There are red light areas in Pakistan. Iran lies for nuclear issue. Are you sure that no one in the family of Saudi Arab drinks. Alas, Islam of today dont have things like ex communication of sinner. Simple silting of throat, to induce terror. Had person being exiled away from own people, while missing the heaven like pious life with community/umma would have made person repent and return to Islamic faith. Often Muslim girl elope with non Muslims, may see "liberty" of west. May hate and repent, want to repent but honor killings, executions, such stuff prevents her return.

    • Vijay says:

      Let Apostate go away from Ummat, when he/she repent, due to sorrow of separation from brothers and sisters of Ummat,then it will prevent apostasy better. You guys lack confidence in Allah SWT, kill Allah SWT's creation. Why should you think that Allah SWT, will give you power by having confidence in you.

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