The Sound, Sane and Rational Quran that Makes You Laugh

The Sound, Sane and Rational Quran that Makes You Laugh

 

In the comment section of this site I asked a Muslim who said people should read the Quran instead of reading my articles, whether she has read the Quran. She replied, “Yes I did.   Your strategies are not going to work on any sound, sane and rational mind. You’re wasting your time, take my word.”

I am not going to take her word, but I decided to quote a few verses of the Quran and ask Muslims to highlight the parts that are sound, sane and rational.

The Quran says, “Allah taught Adam all the names of the plants and animals.” And then the angels tested him to make sure he has remembered them. (Q.2:31)

So far zoologists have recorded 20,000 species of fish, 6,000 species of reptiles, 9,000 birds, 1,000 amphibians, and 15,000 species of mammals. And, although there are a million named species of insects, scientists estimate that there could be another million waiting to be discovered and named! This number does not include subspecies. There are even more species of plants.

Under this light can you still say that the verse 2:31 is sound, sane and rational?

 

The Quran 2:55-56 says, Allah stroke the Jews with lightening when they disbelieved and then revived him so they thank Him.

“And when ye said: O Moses! We will not believe in thee till we see Allah plainly; and even while ye gazed the lightning seized you. Then We revived you after your extinction, that ye might give thanks.”

I don’t know what is your definition of sound, sane and rational. This sounds like something someone suffering from narcissistic personality disorder would do. Narcissists love to crush and humiliate others and then rescue  them in order to show their absolute power over them. This video is a perfect example of what I am talking about.  No sane person with sound and rational mind would behave in this way, let alone God, the maker of this universe.  This pathetic behavior befits mentally insane people.

 

 

The Quran 2:61 says at the time of Moses Allah brought down abasement and humiliation upon the Jews because they disbelieved in the messages of Allah and killed the prophets unjustly.

The injustice of this punishment is not the point. The point is that Moses was the first prophet sent to the Jews. So how could Allah punish them for a crime that they had not yet committed?

Is this sound, sane and rational?

 

The Quran 41:11 says, “Then He [Allah] directed Himself to the heaven and it is a vapor, so He said to it and to the earth: Come both, willingly or unwillingly. They both said: We come willingly.

Even the first graders know that heaven and earth are not separate from each other.  Earth is s spec inside the vast universe – the heaven.  So the Earth and the Heaven coming together or being separate from each other is an absurdity.  The Earth is inside the heaven. It can never be separate from it. But that is not my point.  My point is that Earth and all other planets and stars that make up the heaven are inanimate objects.  They move by the force of gravity. They don’t have a mind of their own and can’t obey or disobey.  They are rocks. Can rocks think, talk and decide what to do? According to the Quran 2:74 yes. It says “And indeed there are rocks which fall down for the fear of Allah.” This to me sounds like stories told for children, not for sound, sane and rational minds.

 

The verses 2:65-66 claim that Jews were told not to break the Sabbath, but when they did, Allah transformed them into apes and made them despised and hated, to set an example and admonition to the God-fearing.

This story is repeated three times in the Quran. It does not sound very sound, sane and rational. Now of course Allah can do anything even the ridiculous.  My question is whether this punishment does not exceed the crime. Why working in Sabbath should be such a big deal for Allah and if it is, why He did not ratify it with Muhammad? Allah ratified the law or stoning the adulterers, but forgot to ratify the abstention from work in Sabbath?

 

Asma, is one young lady who left Islam a few months ago. She was helped by Shakila whose story is posted in this site. She wrote to me a few days ago pointing to a contradiction in the Quran that I had not noticed.

She said that despite the fact that usury (ribah) is prohibited in Islam, Allah in the Quran 2:245 offers ribah to Muslims. He asks them to finance Muhammad’s wars and promises to repay them with huge interest after they die. She asked why is it okay for Allah and his messenger to practice usury, but it is not okay for Muslims.  Asma is wrong. Ribah in Islam is prohibited. Allah and his messenger in this verse are practicing taqiyyah, the holy deception. There will be no reward for all those benighted fools who give their money and life for Muhammad and his fictitious Allah. It does not sound logical for God to need people’s money to finance the raids of his prophet when he can count with the force of his angels and can make calamities to strike his enemies.

At least in the time of Moses, Allah punished his detractors on his own. Did he lose his power when he sent Muhammad? Why would he need to borrow money from Muslims to finance the raids of his favorite prophet?

 

Although the Quran repeatedly claims to be conveyed clearly (Q. 2:99; 5:15 -16; 10:15; 6:55; 45:25; 41:53; 35:40; 26:195; 24:1; 17:12; 2:256), a complete book that covers all things (Q. 6:38; 16:89; 17:89; 18:54), easy to understand (44:58 , 54:22 , 54:32, 54:40) with all kinds of examples (Q.39:27; 30:58) and no doubt in it (Q 2:2;  11:1), explained in detail  (Q. 6:114), which cannot be changed (Q 6:115; 15:41), self-explanatory (Q. 2:185) and without any contradiction (Q 4:82), the verse 3:7 says, Allah “is he who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation, but none knows its interpretation except Allah and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge. This verse seems to be contradicting all those claims about the clarity and the ease of understanding of the Quran.

What is the point of giving parables that no one understands? Parables are used to make complex concepts clear, not to make them more difficult to understand. Something does not sound very sound, sane and rational in this verse.

 

Now here is something  that is sane, sound and rational. The verse 2:230 says if a man divorces his wife three times she shall not be lawful to him afterwards until she marries another husband; then if he divorces her there is no blame on them if they return to each other.

Brilliant! If in the heat of rage you utter the word talaq three times to your wife, you can no longer remarry her until someone else marries her, takes her to bed and enjoys her for some times and then if he divorces her you can take the mother of your children home and she will become lawful to you again.

This goes beyond sane, sound and rational. It is genius! How could an illustrate man of the Seventh Century Arabia know this much?

 

But let us be fair. There are also nuggets of truth in the Quran. Take the example of the verses 3:54 and  8:30 that say “and Allah is the best of deceivers” (waAllahu khayru almakireen ). Who can argue with that?    This is where the Bible and the Quran coincide. The Book of Revelation 12:9 says Satan is the deceiver of the whole world.

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  1. A`uudzubillaahi minasy syaithaanir rajiim,
    Bismillaahirrahmaanirrahiim,

    Mr Ali Sina,
    I disagree with your opinion:" how God punished the Jews for the crimes that have not been done". Let us quote the full translation of Quran 2:61

    And [recall] when you said, "O Moses, we can never endure one [kind of] food. So call upon your Lord to bring forth for us from the earth its green herbs and its cucumbers and its garlic and its lentils and its onions." [Moses] said, "Would you exchange what is better for what is less? Go into [any] settlement and indeed, you will have what you have asked." And they were covered with humiliation and poverty and returned with anger from Allah [upon them]. That was because they [repeatedly] disbelieved in the signs of Allah and killed the prophets without right. That was because they disobeyed and were [habitually] transgressing.

    This verse tells the story of the Jews who are not satisfied with the good luck that had been given to them, such as manna and salwa food ( Quran 2:57 ), twelve springs ( Quran 2:60 ), but they are asking again vegetables, cucumbers, garlic, lentils and its onions. . " In this regard the Prophet Musa ` alayhi salam advised them to seek some other city will definitely find of interest.

    THEN………. they were covered with humiliation and poverty and returned with anger from Allah [upon them]. That was because they [repeatedly] disbelieved in the signs of Allah and killed the prophets without right. That was because they disobeyed and were [habitually] transgressing.

    The humiliation did not occur during the time of Prophet Musa ` alayhi salam , but after the Prophet Musa ` alayhi salam.

    The next fact the Jews killed the prophets themselves , among others, the Prophet Zechariah ` alaihi salam and Yahya ` alaihi salam ( John the Baptist ) , and tried to kill `Isa `alaihi salam ( Jesus).

    The facts showed the Jews left their country. They were slaved, oppressed, persecuted for thousands of years by European nations.They finally got up , and returned to the land of their ancestors and built a country, namely Israel, but gluttony and greed are still inherited, especially by Ariel Sharon.

    O Children of Israel, you may return to your homes, but do not be greedy , therefor mend your relationship with your neighbor (Palestinian state) . Do they maintain and preserve the land of your ancestors for thousands of years, don`t they?

    Let us quote the full translation of Quran 2:58 and 2:62
    And ( remember) when We said : " Enter ye into the country ( Baitul Maqdis ) , and eat of his produce , which is much more palatable where you like, and enter the gate while prostrate, and say : " Deliver us from sin " , We shall forgive your sins , and later we will add ( giving Us ) to those who do good " .
    ( Quran 2:58 )

    Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans, those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness – will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve (Quran 2:62).

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  3. I do agree with the part that it doesn't mean three oral divorces but three divorces. But how does that make the fact that a woman has to marry another man, consummate the marriage and after getting divorced, only then she can marry her previous husband? Would any sane man who loves his wife/ex-wife give her over to another man? I mean if she is no longer your wife and you don't love her that's another thing. But a man would only marry his divorced wife if he loves her (or if she wants to use her for other purpose like breeding more Muslims, that's a religious act for Muslim men). And consummation is compulsory. What if the woman doesn't want to get married to another man? Is the rule applicable to men? No. Why? Why is it that in the end it is all about the carnal desires of the Muslim men?

  4. @Abdu
    /I think the author is trying his best to hide the real image of Islam/
    Oh ye!! will you please enlightened us what is the reality and image of Islam

  5. GUYS. I think the author is trying his best to hide the real image of Islam. now I think that a religion that makes author take this effort to collect false facts is worth looking into, it won't harm you. look at it by yourself and make the judgment yourself. don't let anyone tell you what is good or bad for you as the author is trying to do. as you can see guys how low these people go in there claims, it only reflects their thoughts. if Islam wasn't the just religion, the educational, the core of civilization, look at the start of Islam in 700 AD and look 500 years after that, you can see that Islam build civilizations, knowledge, medicine. if you don't believe look at by your self but everyone reading this post. TRY YOUR BEST NOT TO READ FROM BIASED PEOPLE like this author. THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE EVEN FROM CHRISTIANITY WHO WROTE THEIR TRUE OPINIONS ABOUT ISLAM.

  6. I do't know guys where you got all these ideas about Islam, I've never heard that criticism is divorce. becareful guys in what you say. every person dies then he will meet God. Allah is the same God who sent Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed. whether we call him Allah or you call him other names. stay away from insulting God. you never existed without him, and you will return to him.
    the most important thing, why do you live on insulting others, read about Islam from its books, never read books that who wrote them had the bad intent to make a bad image about Islam.

  7. Armaan, such indecency is stupid to you because you are rational. The muhammaan considers that practice to be divine because their god decreed it. Their imams capitalize on this by urging couples to divorce so that the women can give them free sex before reuniting with their husbands. Sex is so central to muhammadanism that each muslim is obsessed with it. It will be endless in their paradise and formed one of the three cardinal raison d'etre of their pedophile prophet. You should not expect anything different from those who think that he set the best example for them.

  8. Your the stupid guy zitouni…The lady might not be his wife…but why does she HAVE to go sleep with another man if she WANTS to get back with her just divorced husband?? Say you and your wife divorce…and then u both want to get back togethr the very next instant, are you ok with the fact that she has to sleep with some other man just to be able to do that? How stupid is that??

  9. i am born a hindu..but when i read the manusmriti' i knew it was wrong…the manusmriti is a stupid thing. But i have the guts to say something is wrong even if its part of my religion. If my religion tells me to beat my wife and use her like an object for just sexual satisfaction, i will not defend it. I will openly shun it. My religion gives me the right to choose what i want to believe. I dont have to be scared and follow anything blindly. You should try that too.

  10. to be honest i dont think this site has tried to incite hatred against the people of islam…just against the prophet…in my opinion atleast i think he is trying to save you…

  11. Kaafirs are worse than animals according to Koran. I do not know why he created the Animals if they are very worse.I should commend allah for one thing, he has given Kaafirs a better brain than what he has given to muslims. How can one explain the fact that most major scientific inventions were done by kaafirs and not muslims .Comparison between man & other living species was done by Koran itself by stating kaafirs are worse than Animals.

  12. I think its actually good to have people like him challenging Muslims to understand the Quran better, but unfortunately people like this guy have a tendency to get emotional and end up making things up and give misleading information. He just over did it. If anyone actually looks up his first argument for example they'll see the verse doesn't actually say anything about plant and animals, it says only names, it is the BIBLE that claims God taught Adam names of animals. Shia muslims believe this means names of prophets and other great people that are to emerge from his line. This is very sound, sane and rational. If anyone is really interested in learning about Islam, this article at least is a waste of their time.

  13. Qur'an 33:51"You may have whomever you desire; there is no blame."
    Tabari VIII:187"The [sixty-two-year old] Messenger of Allah married Mulaykah. She was young and beautiful. One of the Prophet's wives came to her and said, 'Are you not ashamed to marry a man who killed your father during the day he conquered Mecca?" She therefore took refuge from him."
    Qur'an 66:1"O Prophet! Why forbid yourself that which Allah has made lawful to you? You seek to please your consorts."
    Qur'an 66:4"If you (women) turn in repentance to him, it would be better. Your hearts have been impaired, for you desired (the ban) [on how many girls Muhammad could play with at a time]. But if you back each other up against (Muhammad), truly Allah is his protector, and Gabriel, and everyone who believes – and furthermore, the angels will back (him) up."
    Qur'an 66:5"Maybe, if he divorces you (all), Allah will give him in exchange consorts better than you – submissive, faithful, obedient, adorers who worship, who travel, and are inclined to fasting – previously married or virgins."
    @ Ali, the good old Mo is at it agaian:

    Tabari VIII:117"Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself. Muhammad gave Dihyah her two cousins instead."
    Ishaq:511 "When he protested, wanting to keep Safiyah for himself, the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims."

    Bukhari:V5B59N524"The Muslims said among themselves, 'Will Safiyah be one of the Prophet's wives or just a lady captive and one of his possessions?'"

    Tabari VIII:110"When Abu Sufyan learned that the Prophet had taken her, he said, 'That stallion's nose is not to be restrained!'"

    Bukhari:V4B52N143
    V5B59N523"When we reached Khaybar, Muhammad said that Allah had enabled him to conquer them. It was then that the beauty of Safiyah was described to him. Her husband had been killed [by Muhammad], so Allah's Apostle selected her for himself. He took her along with him till we reached a place where her menses were over and he took her for his wife, consummating his marriage to her, and forcing her to wear the veil.'"
    Tabari VIII:122
    Ishaq:515"Muhammad commanded that Safiyah should be kept behind him and he threw his cloak over her. Thus the Muslims knew that he had chosen her for himself."

    Ishaq:517"When the Apostle took Safiyah on his way out of town, she was beautified and combed, putting her in a fitting state for the Messenger. The Apostle passed the night with her in his tent. Abu Ayyub, girt with his sword, guarded the Apostle, going round the tent until he saw him emerge in the morning. Abu said, 'I was afraid for you with this woman for you have killed her father, her husband, and her people."

    Qur'an 33:30"O Consorts of the Prophet! If…any of you are devout, obedient, and submissive in the service to Allah and His Messenger, and does good, to her shall We grant her reward twice. We have prepared for her a generously rich provision."

  14. @Ali – the Good old Mo in action:
    Qur'an 33:51"You may have whomever you desire; there is no blame."

    Tabari VIII:187"The [sixty-two-year old] Messenger of Allah married Mulaykah. She was young and beautiful. One of the Prophet's wives came to her and said, 'Are you not ashamed to marry a man who killed your father during the day he conquered Mecca?" She therefore took refuge from him."

    Qur'an 66:1"O Prophet! Why forbid yourself that which Allah has made lawful to you? You seek to please your consorts."

    Qur'an 66:4"If you (women) turn in repentance to him, it would be better. Your hearts have been impaired, for you desired (the ban) [on how many girls Muhammad could play with at a time]. But if you back each other up against (Muhammad), truly Allah is his protector, and Gabriel, and everyone who believes – and furthermore, the angels will back (him) up."

    Qur'an 66:5"Maybe, if he divorces you (all), Allah will give him in exchange consorts better than you – submissive, faithful, obedient, adorers who worship, who travel, and are inclined to fasting – previously married or virgins."

    Tabari VIII:117"Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself. Muhammad gave Dihyah her two cousins instead." Ishaq:511 "When he protested, wanting to keep Safiyah for himself, the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims."

    Bukhari:V5B59N524"The Muslims said among themselves, 'Will Safiyah be one of the Prophet's wives or just a lady captive and one of his possessions?'"
    Tabari VIII:110"When Abu Sufyan learned that the Prophet had taken her, he said, 'That stallion's nose is not to be restrained!'"
    Bukhari:V4B52N143

    V5B59N523"When we reached Khaybar, Muhammad said that Allah had enabled him to conquer them. It was then that the beauty of Safiyah was described to him. Her husband had been killed [by Muhammad], so Allah's Apostle selected her for himself. He took her along with him till we reached a place where her menses were over and he took her for his wife, consummating his marriage to her, and forcing her to wear the veil.'"

    Tabari VIII:122
    Ishaq:515"Muhammad commanded that Safiyah should be kept behind him and he threw his cloak over her. Thus the Muslims knew that he had chosen her for himself."

    Ishaq:517"When the Apostle took Safiyah on his way out of town, she was beautified and combed, putting her in a fitting state for the Messenger. The Apostle passed the night with her in his tent. Abu Ayyub, girt with his sword, guarded the Apostle, going round the tent until he saw him emerge in the morning. Abu said, 'I was afraid for you with this woman for you have killed her father, her husband, and her people."

    Qur'an 33:30"O Consorts of the Prophet! If…any of you are devout, obedient, and submissive in the service to Allah and His Messenger, and does good, to her shall We grant her reward twice. We have prepared for her a generously rich provision."

  15. Islam is the most peaceful religion. Take a look at these:

    Qur'an:9:88"The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."

    Qur'an:9:5"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
    Qur'an:9:112"The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
    Qur'an:9:29"Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."

    Ishaq:325"Muslims, fight in Allah's Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious."
    Qur'an:8:39"Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."

    Qur'an:8:39"So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."

    Ishaq:324"He said, 'Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.'"

    Qur'an:9:14"Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them."

    Ishaq:300"I am fighting in Allah's service. This is piety and a good deed. In Allah's war I do not fear as others should. For this fighting is righteous, true, and good."

    Ishaq:587"Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace."

    Qur'an:8:65"O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."

  16. Dr Ali Sina just did not have enough time to add these, after all Islam is the most peaceful religion:

    Qur'an:9:88"The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."

    Qur'an:9:5"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

    Qur'an:9:112"The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
    Qur'an:9:29"Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
    Ishaq:325"Muslims, fight in Allah's Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious."

    Qur'an:8:39"Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."
    Qur'an:8:39"So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."

    Ishaq:324"He said, 'Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.'"

    Qur'an:9:14"Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them."
    Ishaq:300"I am fighting in Allah's service. This is piety and a good deed. In Allah's war I do not fear as others should. For this fighting is righteous, true, and good."

    Ishaq:587"Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace."

    Qur'an:8:65"O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."

  17. Islam is the most peaceful religion, just take a look at these:

    Qur'an:9:88"The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."

    Qur'an:9:5"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

    Qur'an:9:112"The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
    Qur'an:9:29"Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
    Ishaq:325"Muslims, fight in Allah's Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious."

    Qur'an:8:39"Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."

    Qur'an:8:39"So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."

    Ishaq:324"He said, 'Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.'"

    Qur'an:9:14"Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them."

    Ishaq:300"I am fighting in Allah's service. This is piety and a good deed. In Allah's war I do not fear as others should. For this fighting is righteous, true, and good."

    Ishaq:587"Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace."

    Qur'an:8:65"O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."

  18. Islam is the most rational and logical, check this out:

    Bukhari:V7B71N643"I heard the Prophet saying, 'If anyone of you dreams something he dislikes, when you get up, blow thrice on your left.'"

    Bukhari:V9B87N115"If you spit on the left side of your bed the bad dream will not harm you."

    Bukhari:V6B60N373"The Prophet explained, 'Paradise and Hell argued…. Allah said to the Hell Fire, "You are my (means of) punishment by which I torment whoever I wish of my slaves. You will have your fill. As for the Fire, it will not be filled until I put My Foot over it.'"

    Bukhari:V7B71N590"The climate of Medina did not suit some people so the Prophet ordered them to drink camel urine as a medicine."

    Bukhari:V7B71N592"I heard Allah's Apostle saying, 'There is healing in black cumin for all diseases except death.'"

    Bukhari:V7B71N673"Allah's Apostle said, 'If a fly falls in your drink, dip all of it into the cup and then throw it away, for in one of its wings there is a disease and in the other there is healing, an antidote or treatment for that disease.'"

    Qur'an 49:12"Spy not behind the backs of others. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother?"

  19. Allah the wise guy !

    Bukhari:V7B71N643"I heard the Prophet saying, 'If anyone of you dreams something he dislikes, when you get up, blow thrice on your left.'"

    Bukhari:V9B87N115"If you spit on the left side of your bed the bad dream will not harm you."

    Bukhari:V6B60N373"The Prophet explained, 'Paradise and Hell argued…. Allah said to the Hell Fire, "You are my (means of) punishment by which I torment whoever I wish of my slaves. You will have your fill. As for the Fire, it will not be filled until I put My Foot over it.'"

    Bukhari:V7B71N590"The climate of Medina did not suit some people so the Prophet ordered them to drink camel urine as a medicine."

    Bukhari:V7B71N592"I heard Allah's Apostle saying, 'There is healing in black cumin for all diseases except death.'"

    Bukhari:V7B71N673"Allah's Apostle said, 'If a fly falls in your drink, dip all of it into the cup and then throw it away, for in one of its wings there is a disease and in the other there is healing, an antidote or treatment for that disease.'"

    Qur'an 49:12"Spy not behind the backs of others. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother?"

  20. Allah the wise go?

    Qur'an 79:1"I swear by those (angels) who violently tear out (the souls), and drag them forth to destruction, by those who gently take out, by those meteors rushing by, swimming along (angels or planets), and by those who press forward as in a race (the angels, or stars, or horses [the translators added, clueless as to what "god" was trying to say]), and by those who regulate the affair."

    Bukhari:V7B71N665"The Prophet said, 'No contagious disease is conveyed without Allah's permission.'" Bukhari:V4B54N484 "I heard the Prophet saying, 'Fever is from the heat of the Hell Fire.'"

    Bukhari:V8B77N616"Allah's Apostle said, 'Plague is a means of torture which Allah sends upon whom-so-ever He wishes.'"

    Qur'an 38:17"We endued Our slave David with power. It was We who subdued the hills to sing Our praises with him at nightfall. And the birds were assembled, all obedient to him."
    Qur'an 89:6"Saw you not how your Lord dealt with [the mythical] Ad, possessors of lofty buildings, the likes of which were not produced in all the land?"

    Qur'an 91:11"Thamud rejected (their prophet) through inordinate wrong-doing. Behold, the most-wicked wretch among them broke forth but the Messenger said: 'Be cautious. It is a She-camel of Allah! And bar her not from having her drink!' But they rejected him as a false prophet and hamstrung her. So Allah on account of their crime, obliterated their traces, doomed them, desolated their dwellings, leveling them to the ground for their sin."

    Qur'an 78:37"The Lord with Whom they cannot dare to speak, none can converse with Him, none are able to address Him."

    Qur'an 86:13"Lo this (Qur'an) is a conclusive Word; it is not a thing for amusement. It is no pleasantry. And it is no joke."

  21. thats exactly what we say – you need to be of rational mind , of come whatever even to the possiblitiy of rejecting some verses in the name of rationality. you cant believe a poison(eg cyanide) to be elixir – just because it is in the quaran.

  22. sanatan dharma – or infact any dharmic spirituality – which is eternal and doesnt bother which god or representation you beleive in – you can even be an atheist questioning all its principles – its ditto evolution and scientific theory and metaphysics

  23. Scientifically speaking God has nothing to do with "religions".Read all the religious books available particularly Hinduism – Sri Ramakrishna Paramshamsa,Swami Vivekananda,Bhagawad Gita etc
    taking them as guiding torch he live a life morally sound.Hinduism says – Satyam-truth and dharma-justice alone is important other items in religion are paraphernalia. Science is non-personnel.similarly relgion must be

  24. As i said .. . . Sina simply pretended that later his book talks about this. The thing is he copied this from answering-islam site without understanding.

    There is one singular report from a book called Bada wal Tarikh – which mentions from Qatadah that Prophet Muhammad had a son called Abdul Menaf before advent of Islam. Hence making the total number of sons to three.

    "Abdul Menaf is named sometimes Tahir, and sometimes Tayyeb. This is to hide his real name. "

    Wrong – this is title given to Abdullah.

    More here soon:
    http://exposingsina.wordpress.com/

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    "Keep reading. You just started the book. There is a lot of reading to do. "

    His research is poor- he has simply copied material from answering-islam and other websites. Here he makes the idiotic mistake.

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    I should be given 50,000 for pointing all these out!

  25. This is copied and plagiarized from Wikipedia:

    "Traditions that are diffusely recurrent are called mutawattir. These traditions have come down to later generations through a large number of chains of narrations, involving diverse transmitters. It is virtually impossible that all these people, living in different localities and espousing (at times radically) different views, would come together, to fabricate the exact same lie and attribute it to their prophet."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu%27tazila#Validity

  26. The Quran says, “Allah taught Adam all the names of the plants and animals.” And then the angels tested him to makesure he has remembered them.(Q.2:31)
    Do you really could read Ali Sina? the above verse, Allah describes the names of the objects only to Adam, and the paragraph above in no way saying that is taught is Man, that knowledge can only adam, not the son adam! if adam will give everything he knew to his son? maybe not right! whether a father will tell his sons what he knows any? if you have a child who is 5 years old, if you will give him all the names of things? The verse above is very reasonable!

  27. You can kill more christians like in orissa and have peace.

  28. 8:22 Lo! the worst of beasts in
    Allah's sight are the deaf, the
    dumb, who have no sense. (8:22) "The worst of beasts
    in Allah's sight are the deaf, the
    dumb, who have no sense [the
    non-muslims]." 8:23 Had Allah known of any
    good in them He would have
    made them hear, but had He
    made them hear they would have
    turned away, averse.

    Then what are the Deaf and Dumb doing in Islam?

  29. zitouni u are sick in d head go and examined urself very well

  30. YEP ,YOU SAY A LOT ALI(en). BUT…NOTHING WORTHWHILE ! Nothing, nada .
    Only evil CRAP !
    NEXT !!! LOL

  31. Then why the hell are you commenting here. Get lost and mind your own f****n business.

  32. was jesus married to mary magdalene ?The New Testament contains no explicit answer to the question of Jesus’ marital state. It never mentions his wife, nor that he was unmarried. In fact, whenever the New Testament gospels refer to Jesus’ natural relatives, they speak only of his father, mother, and siblings, but never of a wife.

    Although almost all scholars of all religious persuasions take this as strong evidence of the singleness of Jesus, a few have proposed that, in fact, Jesus was married. In 1970, for example, William E. Phipps published Was Jesus Married? The Distortion of Sexuality in the Christian Tradition. In this book Phipps argued that the silence of the New Testament about the marital status of Jesus indicates that Jesus was in fact married. Why? Because virtually every Jewish man in Jesus’ day did marry, especially those who were considered to be Rabbis.

  33. To Anburaj .
    I don't trust any muslim, and I never will.
    A muslim is a person who believes in Allah, the evil fake Prophet Mohammed , the evil Quran and the even still more evil sunna. This says it all ! Read it and you know why!
    Muslims smile in your (kafir) face but curse you inwardly.!!!
    There just ONE solution : ISLAM MUST BE DESTROYED ! AND IT WILL BE DESTROYED …WITH ONLY THE TRUTH !!

  34. You are a backward suprstitious MORON ,ABU ……HAM.
    Prove first that your Allah exist , you retarded inbred muslim.

  35. http://www.new age islam contains reasonable good articles. Best articles may be published

  36. remove this photo, this is bad , or allah will Tortures you………..

  37. @Ali – Before you get all worked up, here is something to chew on!

    Religion in 99.99% cases is not something one selects or has a choice (roughly there are only 0.01 % converts). It is very much like one cannot choose parents. It is certainly not something we learn based on logic & reasoning, it is forced upon us by our parents (or guardians). As infants, we have no say in it. By the time one is old enough to realize what one's religion is all about, it is too late – our minds are already 'programmed' and we have already developed a bias for that religion in which we are born. From there on, 'the programmed' brain considers all other religions as wrong and inferior. That is the power of that bias. It is sometimes engraved in our brains and it is not easy (almost impossible) for it to be rectified – it all depends on the intensity of the programming. No I am not a programmer :)

    Be honest and think about this – If you were born in a Hindu or Christian or Jewish family, chances are extremely high (99.99%) that you would have followed one of these and not Islam. your religion is based on faith, & not logic – When it comes to religion, it is almost impossible to applying logic & be fair (with yourself), why? Because of the superiority bias you develop for your religion/faith – the bias is more powerful & will prevent you to be have an open mind.

    If you have an open mind (with no bias) you will be amazed with the questions that will go through your mind – the entire thought process changes (research neuron connections & thought process). The existence of a super power the way religions describe with the concept of an 'ALL knowing' super power (call it anything you like – Allah, God, Ram ….) it does not make any sense for that super power to even create humans (or even the entire universe) & then test them so they can go to heaven or hell, really! If you cannot see what is wrong with this concept it is only because your bias is preventing you to think straight. I challenge you to think and then understand why it does not make any sense for an 'ALL knowing' to create all this. Today science does not have ALL the answers (& it never will have ALL the answers) but we can say it with certainty that the concept of religions (& I mean ALL religions) does not make any sense & as such they are all false.

    For now watch this video and see how human brain works in trying to make sense of this chaotic world. Enjoy!

    [youtube vm971ltF44A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm971ltF44A youtube]

  38. I replied the following to your next post as well!

    The kind that is called 'fact' – sorry, you should have not challenged US! I am now forced to expose your version of Islam (I know you think yours is the & should be the ONLY version).

    Why was Rashad Khalifa killed by 'main stream' Muslims?
    (Your website – http://submission.org/#/d/miracle.html)

    May be because a) he called himself a messenger of God b) he had to change two instances in Quran in order to make his miracle 19 fit – for which he claims (with his prove) that Quran was changed and God sent him (after Mohammed) to correct it – Rashad's Followers claim – Rashad is even mentioned in Quran (indirectly of course!). Certainly all this was (& still is) hard to swallow for the main stream Muslims – as such Rashad had to go – he was killed.

    Having said that – If you are following 'The Final Testament' – in my eyes your are OK! Rashad was an educated person (ph.D.). He tried his best (even gave his life) to fix the flaws in traditional Quran/Islam by – changing the translation (milder tone, which you use in your arguments), teaching peace (concentrating on peaceful verses revealed in Mekkah), ignoring violence (verses revealed in Madina), removing Hijab, attempting to show equal rights for women – in short Rashad was a true 'moderate/modern' Muslim. Unfortunately some of the things he did (but he had no bad intentions) – did not go too well with the main stream Muslims. He threw aside all Hadith's, because some of the Hadith do make Mohammed (& Islam) look bad & some of the Hadith did not fit his (revised) model of Islam. He wanted a reformed, respectful & peaceful Islam. I say if you guys (Rashad's followers) can even convert 25% of the main stream muslims to your version, this world will change – go for it!

    You are doing good in attempting to reform 'other traditional Muslims', but for crying out loud, what on earth are you doing here on this site – You need to go on the web sites that belong to main stream Muslims. Why on earth would you try to defend Islam here. The Muslims we argue with are the traditional main stream Muslims – they will kill you before us!

    Peace Brother!

  39. Religion in 99.99% cases is not something one selects or has a choice. It is very much like one cannot choose parents. It is not something we learn based on logic, it is forced upon us by our parents (or guardians). As infants, we have no say in it. By the time one is old enough to realize what one's religion is all about, it is too late – our minds are already 'programmed' and we have developed a bias for that religion in which we are born. From there on, all other religions will be marked as wrong and inferior in our minds. That is the power of that bias, that sometimes get engraved in our brains and it is not easy (almost impossible) to be rectified – depending on the intensity of the programming. (No I am not a programmer javascript:void(0); )

    Be honest and think – If you were born in a Hindu or Christian or Jewish family, chances are extremely high (99.99%) that you would have followed one of these and not Islam. your religion is based on faith, & not logic – It is almost impossible to applying logic & be fair, why? Because of the (superiority) bias one develops for his/her religion, even if one attempts to apply any reasoning/logic it will not be fair and accurate – the bias is more powerful.

    I have read your comments about women's equal rights in Islam & unfortunately your bias is preventing you to see facts and realize what equal really means. Equality also means, if there are any conditions on one side there should same conditions on the other. You acknowledge that men and women should be equal in life and you then try to look for the same in your religion (faith) – and that is fair and logical. However, your attempt to prove that equality in terms of rights for men and women really exists in Islam/Quran fails, and your bias prevents you to see that what you presented as 'equal 's not equal at all. Let me 'try' and explain what I mean.

    But before I get to the rights I want comment on your different Quranic translations – If one can translate the same Quranic verses from Arabic (& I am not talking about interpretation, merely direct translation) & produce many different meaning/translation in other languages, then this fact by itself is a very big flaw – Quran is supposed to be a guide. Today human beings write User Guides for appliances that are then translated in many languages & sold all over the world. For example – a User Guide for TV. No matter where the TV is sold & as such what language the guide is read in, the TV is operated in the same way because the translation from original language to all other languages are accurate there is no ambiguity at all. Yet with Quran, which is such an important book & it is written by the creator of this entire world, it can be translated (again not interpreted) differently. How am I to know with 100% certainty which translation is correct! For that matter, even if I know Arabic, I read a verse & it can have more than one meaning – I am doomed!

    Now coming back to equality for women. If men are permitted to do something based on conditions then women should be equally allowed to the same thins with the same conditions. Only then it is is equality. Not when you have to say 'but men have to follow very strict conditions before they can do that …" There should similar verses in Quran with similar conditions for both sexes, men and women. And we know that is not the case, you have said it your self – men are allowed (for example – multiple wives, beating the wife…) only on certain conditions. To that I say, there should have been verses with conditions that also allow women to …(multiple husbands, beat the husband)!

    I have no problems with any religion as long as the follower does not claim that his/her religion is truly based on logic. That is not true. No religion is based on logic, they are all based on faith, & faith which was imposed.

    WARNING: If you reply without reading my entire post, it will reflect in your comments javascript:void(0);

  40. "I was talking to Ali , Amin. (see: no caps and no "!!!"and no swearing) Are you happy now?"

    Why, Thank you.

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    "just a simple woman"

    I don't somehow believe that you are a woman.

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    "And English is not my first language as I told you before "

    Then what is it? Just out of interest.

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    "against whom you muslims must fight(qital) till the last day . "

    I have pointed out twice – there is no such word as "qital"

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    "But most of all : What about calling us disblievers "fuel for hell", "vilest of creatures","swines""and "monkeys"who must be subdued and humilited"

    As I have previously pointed out – what you claim . . . and what the Quranic verses actually say – tend to be different.

    As does their meaning, context, scope, veracity and etc.

    So when you are speaking about the Quran – then why don't you . . . give the exact verse number and quote – so we know what you are talking about.

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    Any perceived insult you feel from the Quran – I am not responsible for. Swearing at it – and swearing at me are 2 different things.

    You can do both . . . it is NOT my site – and not my job to moderate.

    But if you wish to SPEAK to me . . . and EXPECT an answer . . . then the least you can do is speak to me civilly.

    Now is that too much to ask?

    It is quite simple – no sane person will talk to someone if all the other person does is abuses them? Will they?

  41. I was talking to Ali , Amin. (see: no caps and no "!!!"and no swearing) Are you happy now? Sorry for my poor English , I do the best I can . I'm no high and mighty muslimscholar, just a simple woman with some burning(huh,huh) questions about Islam .And English is not my first language as I told you before . But it is good enough for you to understand me … is it not ;-) ?. I even got some some nice compliments of readers.
    But now about Ali : This muslim was the best in swearing . I have to admit that. He came with words which I nver saw before , such as "dungsniffer","dikslurper"..and so on. What about that,Amin?
    But most of all : What about calling us disblievers "fuel for hell", "vilest of creatures","swines""and "monkeys"who must be subdued and humilited , against whom you muslims must fight(qital) till the last day . That's all in your Quran ! So, what about thát?

  42. Troll – bad English, caps, these: "!!! " – and likes to swear and insult. Isn't happy unless you lower to that level.

  43. Here is the repetitive stupidity . . . In translations of language to another often extra word have to be added – for understanding. However that does not mean that those word are extra by the author and not already implied.

    For example Arabic does not have anything equaling to the Arabic "is".

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    The stupidity? How can someone have "views" about a language that they do not understand?

  44. Hi,ALI.
    "And you know what part hurts you the most, Islam is a Religion without a mythology. Its teachings are simple and rational. Its appeal is to human reason and conscience. "
    YOU MEAN JINNS, FLYING DONKEY, TALKING MOUNTAINS,TREES AND ANTS, …SUN SETTING IN MURKY WATER ???? PROSTRATING AND KISSING A BLACK STONE ???
    YEP…THAT IS VERY RATIONAL !!! AND APPEALING TO HUMAN REASON AND CONSCIENCE !! …ISLAMIC CONSCIENCE ??? HAHAHAHAHAA
    COME WITH YOUR CHILDISH SWEARING ,I DON'T MIND AT ALL….IT IS EVEN FUNNY ! TO THE FACTS I GIVE YOU WILL CERTAINLY NOT REACT !!!
    I can go on and on with silly nonsense

  45. i KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE IT ALI !
    BUT ISLAM WILL TUMBLE DOWN ! IT IS ALREADY HAPPENING NOW !!
    GET OVER IT ! YOU WIL FEEL MUCH BETTER ! FREEDOM FOR A SLAVE….WHAT A FEELING !!! ;-)

  46. I'M SURE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND NONSENSE ,AMINRIADH !!! YOU UNDERSTAND EVEN THE NONSENSE OF ISLAM , BEING A MUSLIM SCHOLAR , AND KNOWING CLASIC ARABIC AND ALL !!! WOW ….AMAZING !!
    By the way : how do you translate in the classic Quran the words that are not even there ? Yep…there are words missing ,AMIN. YOU GUESS…I ASSUME ! ALLAH DOES NOT LIKE THAT !! ( Think about the many words between brackets in the translations !!)

  47. The above statement are atypical of a troll. You will find them making such statements aplenty.

    Usually accentuated: In the above example by using capital letter and additions such as these"!!!"

    - – -

    However such statements are pretty meaningless – one can come up with such empty rhetoric all day long . . . laced with insult of one sort or another.

    - – -

    Is it worth to – hound a hound?

  48. This troll has two question . . . and repeats them. When answered – will still repeat them.

    It absolutely doesn't matter – what is said. . . . the troll will simply ignore all that. Claim its two bits as a mighty weapon . . . and proceed to repeat.

  49. OH. YES .WE CAN !!! AND WE ARE GOING TO !!!
    THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL BRAINWASHED MUSLIM !!!

  50. A troll will not answer seriously – to anything. But will make what the troll imagines are witty comments.

  51. As I said . . . a troll will repeat and repeat – one thing over and over . . .

    Someone pointed out this trolls words . . . . Sina mistook them as that persons. Hence he threatened him with a ban.

    Yet this persons comment were just on top . . . and Sina says he did not read them.

    Oh the hypocrisy . . . from the site author onwards.

    - – -

    Allegedly Sina – once banned this troll.

    - – -

    Obviously he didn't.

  52. NO ANSWER OF ALI …..OF COURSE !!! BWAAAAHAAAA !!
    THE PRE-ISLAMIC IDOL,THE BLACK STONE !! DID ABRAHAM ALSO WORSHIP THIS …ER THING ??AND DO THE JEWS STILL THE SAME ??? MAN….ARE YOU BRAINWASHED !!!

  53. The very definition of trollish behavior . . . will go around with one little bit – and despite all evidence – will brandish the stick.

    It doesn't matter what is said to a troll. It will resort to type – by repeating over and over . . . with personal insults and supposed smart-alec comments. . . which the troll imagines are "witty".

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    Hence why say anything at all?

  54. How so? What that is it? Come on Raj – I know you don't make sense generally. But surely even you can venture more than that!

  55. WHERE DID I SHY AWAY ,TROLL AMINRIADH ?? WHERE !!! POINT IT OUT ! ;-) I really don't knowwhat you mean here .
    YOU ARE THE COWARDOUS RUNNER HERE,AMIN !!
    By the way ,WHAT ABOUT MY ALIF,LAM MEEM -QUESTION AND THE BLACK STONE IDOL-QUESTION ???
    YOU can take your time , but please NOT UNTILL THE LAST DAY ! HHHAAAAAA !!

  56. People who are OBVIOUSLY biased towards a point of view – will claim such things.

    Discussions or no discussions . . . it is obvious they already had such set position.

    Then claiming an excuse . . . you know its a lie.

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    It is quite beguiling that people who cannot read a word of Arabic – will attempt to venture views on its clarity or lack there of.

  57. O.K. WHY THEN NOT SOME SILLY MEANINGLESS LETTERS AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY CAPTER ?
    THERE ARE ALREADY SURAH NAMES (ALSO MEANINGLESS !), There is no need for TWO reminders !! HAHAHAHA!!!
    By the way did Allah himself give you this ex[planation? I can not find it anywhere !! ;-)
    But devastating for you by saying that"We cannot ascribe any particular meaning to these letters" is: YOU cal Allah a LIAR ,because Allah says that his Quran is easy to understand and EXPLAINED IN DETAIL ! ;-) ;-)

  58. Wow! That is not even an Insult . . . you can do better!

  59. STILL NOT ONE SINGLE CLEAR AND LOGICAL ANSWER TO MY ALIF,LAM,MEEM-QUESTION !!

  60. WOW ….MAN!!
    Islamic science ….and very USEFULL indeed !!
    Allah and Mohammed deserve the NOBL-PRIZE for this!
    Finally a nobel prize for muslims !!! HAHAHAHAHbwAAAAAA!

  61. To Aminriadh.
    "No they don't – the word مكر has several meanings – for example good planning – or war planning. "
    It is claer by now, after reading your discussion with Dragost 7, that your Quran is not clear and not explained in detail ! HUH ,HUH !!
    Listen AMIN , If a real almighty God says that his book is clear and explained IN DETAIL THEN THÁT IS THE TRUTH!!
    Hence -YOUR ALLAH LIED – And I have successfully exposed that. (paraphrase!, funny hey?) ;-)

  62. CAN YOU SHOW US SOME JINNS ,ALI ???
    HAHAHA…BWAHAHA …
    SUPERSTITIOUS MUSLIM ( biggest insult)

  63. People come to temptations – hence I have directly – or indirectly proven nothing . . . because NOT all priests are accused of – or do touch boys.
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    However – sex is such a basic instinct that if starved – the weaker will do some pretty horrible things.

    You have turned this into a ridiculous argument.

  64. Indirectly, you have just proven that celibacy is not what makes men have sex with men or younger boys or even commit adultery with women.

    The first life you answered is similar to the priest's where the person's mind have control over his body to achieve a greater goal that he himself chose.

    The second life is enforced on the person, yet he remained celibate. " I don't think I fancy men at all. " backup the argument that such a person prefers to remain celibate over sleeping with men.

    If our bodies were supposed to rule over our minds, God would have created us just like the rest of the animals.

  65. Personally – remain celibate – or try my best.

    2. Remain celibate – definitely – I don't think I fancy men at all.

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    However – in prison even Hetro men do have sex with other men

    - – -

    Your questions are fairly ridiculous . . . what is the point of them?

  66. “outer locus of control” argument?

    Are you willing to challenge your mind? I have 2 lives for you to impersonate. Answer honestly to each:

    1- You are a young Muslim studying abroad. Your parents back home sold everything so you can become a doctor. The study requires 8-9 years, you are barely succeeding and any distraction or burden may lead to your failure. You can't afford to get married. You can't afford to visit home. You are surrounded only by infidel women who are willing to have sex without commitment.
    Will you have sex or will you remain celibate?

    2-You are imprisoned for life. The prison is super deluxe located in Europe. You don't have access to women but you have access to gym, library, TV, music. you can even study to get a degree while you are in prison. This degree qualifies you to teach a class of young boys (convicts). Will you have sex with young boys and men or will you remain celibate?

  67. TO ALL MUSLIMS.
    OH, "CHOSEN ONES"…OH "BEST OF CREATION".
    WHY IS THE PAGAN IDOL IN YOUR KAABA ?? You bow down every day 5 times to this IDOL WHEN YOU ARE PRAYING .AND YOU KISS IT !!!
    THAT IS SHIRK …THE BIGGEST SIN POSSIBLE ACCORDING TO YOUR QURAN !
    IT WAS A PAGAN IDOL BEFORE MOHAMMED LIVED. AND IT STILL IS THERE….THE SAME STONE IDOL.
    YOUR FAKE PROPHET BOWED DOWN,PRAYED AMD KISSED IT LIKE THE OTHER PAGANS . HE WAS A PAGAN YOU TILL HE WAS 40 YEARS OLD….YOU KNOW THAT. MOHAMMED DESTROYED ALL THE IDOLS EXCEPT THIS BLACK STONE IDOL !!!
    SO..AGAIN ..WHY ???

  68. It is amazing – how quickly this troll – shied away from answering about her/his nasty and foul comments. Might I be bold to provide a good tagline for this site.

    Alisina.org – credence for trolls

  69. @ AMINRIADH
    I AM STILL WAITNG FOR ONE,CLEAR AND LOGICAL ANSWER TO MY "ALIF,LAM,MEEM"-QUESTION. !

  70. HMMM…An answer of the"BEST OF CREATION "…YEAH…RIGHT. ;-)

  71. @ ALI.
    ENOUGH OF ALL THIS QUASI-INTELLIGENT NUMBER NONSENSE!!!
    WHAT WE ALL CAN READ IN YOUR QURAN ARE SURAHS with some STRANGE LETTERS LIKE SURAH 2:1 which says: ALIF,LAM,MEEM .
    GIVE US ONE SINGLE, CLEAR AND LOGICAL ANSWER . BECAUSE YOUR ALLAH SAYS THAT HIS QURAN IS
    WITHOUT DOUBT ,EASY TO UNDERSTAND and EXPLAINED IN DETAIL !
    Take your time, HUH,HUH
    Allah says that his Quran is without DOUBT,

  72. @ Ali(en)
    I read your stupid (sorry) post right now !
    "Does this mean they are liars for fooling the enemy, or smarter for fooling the enemy?"
    THIS MEANS : THEY ARE SMARTER LIARS !!! ;-)
    AND REMEMBER: A REAL ALMIGHTY AND ALLKNOWING GOD HAS NO NEED TO FOOL HIS CREATIONS , HE IS ALWAYS SMARTER BUT CERTAINLY NO LIAR . THE DEVIL IS THE FATHER OF ALL LIES !! Assuming, for the sake of argument, that all these ENTITIES exist, OF COURSE !!!!! ;-)

  73. The society Islam seeks to build is around nuclear family – sex outside it leads to break down of Nuclear family.

    Also Islam recommends marriage – straight off from puberty. Unless there is valid reason not to.

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    "As I recall, some Muslim sects also require for a man to be married in order to have sex."

    [Virtually] all sects – and men and women.

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    "priests are not allowed to sleep around because they are required to release themselves from being "slaves of the flesh". "

    We are NOT talking about sleeping around – but marriage.

    Also – things like smoking and drinking are not – basic natural and instinctive. Unlike sex.

  74. "Jesus Christ was NOT celibate."and then you argue "that he PROBABLY did have a wife".
    Very poor logic…even VERY BAD LOGIC !
    I am sure you know that …HEY AMINRIADH ??? ;-)
    Still pondering about the ALIF,LAM,MEEM-QUESTION ???
    I hope you will answer it soon !! ;-)

  75. Caused by celibacy.

  76. Problems and long sufferings are not linked to celibacy.
    These are linked to the human mind.

  77. What has the above spiel got to do with anything? Forced celibacy of priests leads to problems – end of.

    You choose to elongate – when there is no need.

  78. Why Muslimahs are required to remain virgins till they get married?
    Why they are required to be celibate when they are not married?

    As I recall, some Muslim sects also require for a man to be married in order to have sex. Therefore, he has to be celibate when he's not married.

    Christians, men and women are committing adultery when they have sex outside marriage. Therefore, they are also required to remain celibate till they get married. Some don't get married, therefore remain celibate all their lives.

    Why all these requirements?
    Why don't we all have sex whenever we want to and with whoever we want to?
    Will this solve everything?

    We all have needs, our ability to control those needs is what separate us from animals.

    Just like athletes are not allowed to smoke or drink alcohol so they can do their Jobs in a better way, priests are not allowed to sleep around because they are required to release themselves from being "slaves of the flesh".
    If a priest falls in Love (there is nothing wrong with that), he can leave priesthood and get married. It's that simple.

  79. To some it is not suffering, that's something a lot of people fail to see.

    I met a Franciscan priest in the US. He's 30 now. In his twenties, he was a very wealthy computer programmer. He had everything, All the women he wants and he was a player. Cars, Yachts, mansions….
    He left everything, gave his money away and took a vow of poverty and celibacy.
    He's now happier and in peace more than he ever was.

    That's a man who experienced everything, from sex to money,clubs, alcohol…..
    He had everything yet felt empty. He was in a long suffering but now he's free and Happy.

    My point is, we all have a different path to take. My path could be hell to you but a paradise to me. At the end, all that matters is how to take the responsibility of our choices, the good we do and the peace and love that we provide to ourselves and the people around us.

  80. People want to become priests . . . but at that time they are NOT aware of the long suffering.

  81. Hence your gymnastics with this one . . . but as often pointed out – why is there need for the priests to be celibate – in the 1st place.

    In this case – it is a credible excuse. But the end behaviour isn't.

  82. People often search for anything to blame except themselves don't you think?

  83. Doesn't a pilot have to fly a plane?
    If the person can't handle flying a plane then why he chose to become a pilot?

    people are not forced to become priests, it's a choice they make. And after they make it, the church put them in a lot of studying, questioning and soul searching to make sure that they thought it all the way through.

    And for the record, there are a lot of great priests.

  84. Yes – but their reasoning are far different. Also – its the systematic abuse and the extent. Also why do many in the end blame Celibacy?

  85. The point is Christianity (some sects) enforce Celibacy on its priests – which is unjustifiable.

  86. "This celibacy leads to priests touching up boys – hence it doesn't work. "

    Gym teachers, teachers, workers, scientists, cops, criminals. Mullahs, Fathers, teenagers, muslims, christians, atheists….. All touched boys.

    Hence humanity (or at least manhood) doesn't work. I rest my case ;)

  87. Dr Sina, you above all know the power of mind over body. You are a vegetarian not because you are following an instinct.

    Not all humans are the same, we all know that. Celibacy is not your thing and it's not mine either. But a lot of people choose (not forced into) this lifestyle to accomplish something beyond the physical level and they succeed just like you succeeded in becoming a vegetarian. Others just don't succeed because of a lot of different reasons.

    It's a personal choice, the hypocrites and the truthful people exist in every choice.

  88. "Sometimes I wonder why I waste my time. I should have expected that you are no better than your sex-addict prophet. "

    Temper, Temper . . . domain of the ignorant – resorting to insults.

    - – -

    This celibacy leads to priests touching up boys – hence it doesn't work.

    Sex is a basic human desire – a powerful and an instinctive desire.

    - – -

    Jesus Christ was NOT celibate. Just because there are no accounts of his marriage – doesn't mean he didn't have a wife. He probably did.

  89. 1.
    abstention from sexual relations.
    2.
    abstention by vow from marriage: the celibacy of priests.
    3.
    the state of being unmarried.

    - – - –

    Hence you are wrong – at least look at the dictionary . . . there is difference between what is on your mind and reality.

    I think you have often have such trouble

  90. "The real problem is the inhumane requirement to be celibate."

    Sometimes I wonder why I waste my time. I should have expected that you are no better than your sex-addict prophet.

    Celibacy is done by a lot of people since the dawn of humanity. It's not something impossible to do and it's not something that people are forced to do.

    not everyone can do bungee jumping. It's "inhumane" to force someone to do it but it's stupid to say it is inhumane all together just because you don't have the guts or the strength to do it.

  91. HEY, "best of creation"ALI(EN) !!
    ATHE SPLIT SECOND is not so long !!
    ALIF,LAM,MEEM. SIMPLE, LOGICAL EXPLANATION….REMEMBER !!! ;-) ;-)
    COME ON ,OH "CHOSEN ONE ", this can't be difficult for you …..hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!

  92. "Anyway, this one should be a blinder when you reply. Who is Allah and who is Satan? "
    GOOD QUESTION! THE UNBRED MORON ALI(EN) STARTS TO THINK !!!
    WHO IS ALLAH AND WHO IS SATAN ??? AND WHERE ARE THEY?
    BUT THE BURDEM OF PROOF IS ON YOU…STUPID MUSLIM !!!
    PROOF THAT THESE "THINGS " EXIST ! LOGICALLY !!!
    NO CIRCULAR REASONING AND OTHER FALLACIES ….PLEASE !!!! HAHAHAHA !!!! …man , you muslims are sóóóóó damned silly …one simply has to laugh !!!!

  93. ALI(EN) the "CHOSEN ONE" the sproud SLAVE of Allah boasted some time ago: _" I told you in one split second I will give you the answer on Alif Lam Mim ……"
    OH,ALI, "BEST OF CREATION " the split second is over….don't you think so?_But you have still not given ONE, decisive, LOGICAL ANSWER !!!
    COME ON , "OH GREAT SCHOLAR"of Islam !!!

  94. THEN WHY KEEPS ALLAH REPEATING IN HIS EVIL BOOK, YOUR QURAN, OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT HE WILL SEND ALL DISBELIEVERS TO HIS HELL ??THIS IS NO MAKING UP !!!
    WAS ONE TIME NOT ENOUGH ! ???
    HE IS CLEARLY MAKING YOU SUPERSTITIOUS FOOLS AFRAID !!
    BHAGAWANDAS IS OF COURSE RIGHT WHEN HE SAYS:
    "Irrational fear is the weapon of Allah ( =SATAN DISGUISED AS GOD)"!!! AND YOU KNOW IT AMINRIADH !!

  95. STILL NO ANSWER !!!
    OF THIS MUSLIM SLAVE !!!

  96. Alif, Lam, Meem.
    This is the Book about which there is no doubt,….
    ALIF,LAM MEEM ???? NO DOUBT ???
    THIS SAYS IT ALL QUR-RAT ! THINK MAN …THINK ABOUT THIS LITTLE SENTENCE !!!

  97. HI, { } = EMPTY SET , ;-)
    YEAH,RIGHT THE SAME SPOT WHERE YOU AND ALL YOUR EVIL MUSLIM BROTHERS ARE FILED ! THAT CAN NOT BE A COINCIDENCE !!!! HAHAHAHA , WHAT A BACKWARD INBRED CRETIN !!!

  98. TO THE MOHAMMEDAN , MUSLIM (biggest insult there is ;-) )
    IN THE CASE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT " MUHABILA " IS, HERE IS A LINK: http://alisina.org/blog/2012/02/17/mubahila-the-i
    HERE IS AN OTHER SITE , A VERY ISLAMIC ONE, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS NO FANTASY" http://www.amaana.org/mubahila/panjtanpaak.htm
    OH…YES…ALIF,LAM MEEM !!! TO YOU !!! HAHAHA,HOHOHO,HIHIHI !!
    YOU'R A JOKER MAN..LIKE YOU PROPHET ZAKIR NAIK (ALSO CALLED: Achmed The Dead Terrorist ). HAHAHAHAHA !!! (sorry )

  99. O HAVE PROVED THAT YOU DO NOT, CAN NOT,MAY NOT AND AND DARE NOT ANSWER ANY QUESTION , BECAUSE YOUR EVIL BOOK FORBIDS YOU TO THINK AND ASK QUESTIONS….STUPID MUSLIM ( biggest insult possible !) .
    AND NOW I GIVE YOU MY HUMILIATING LAUGH AGAIN : BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!
    YOU HATE THAT ,DON'T YOU ?? HAHAHAHA …BACKWARD MOHAMMEDAN !!!
    BY THE WAY : WHO IS ALLAH ??? hohohoho !!!

  100. I'LL CALL YOU MUSLIM ,BECAUSE IT IS THE BIGGEST INSULT ANYONE CAN COME WITH !
    BUT I WILL CALL YOU { } TOO , THAT IS THE EMPTY SET ON MATH , BECAUSE THERE IS "NOTHING" BEFORE THE (.) IN YOUR ID, SO YOU ARE EMPTY !! EVEN LESS THEN A POINT !!!! YOU ADMIT IT YOURSELF HERE !!! BWAHAHAAAHAHAHA !
    ALIF,LAM,MEEM, QAF, SAD, NUN…ETC. !!!! hohohoho
    MUHABILA !!!! hihihihi

  101. Did you noticed (.) point in your ID? Point is by default with every ID lol. In fact you are not intelligent enough to know my ID.

    Forget ID Call me a MUSLIM !

  102. TO THE MUSLIM ( .) ( point !) .
    YOU HAVE CHOSEN THE RIGHT ID FOR YOURSELF, NAMELY A (.) POINT !! THAT MEANS : YOU ARE ALLMOST NOTHING !!! A GOOD AND FUNNY NAME ! AND BECAUSE YOU ARE FUNNY I START LAUGHING AGAIN !!! YOU ARE THE BEST POINT THAT ALLAH HAS CREATED !!!
    HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!
    I LIKE IT VERY MUCH TO DEE THESE BACKWARD MOHAMMEDANS GETTING ANGRY ! BECAUSE IT PERHAPS MAKE THEM THINK !!!
    YES, IT WOULD EVEN BE STILL MUCH BETTER IF THESE BACKWARD MOHAMMEDANS STARTED THINKING ABOUT THEIR EVIL CULT !!

  103. lol Closer to Schizo ! OK What you have proved with proof ?

    I advice you should start crying coz laughing can't manage your stress effectively and relieve you from tremendous depression!

    Call me a MUSLIM hundreds of time may Allah bless you for this!

  104. HEY,POINTHEADED MUSLIM ( biggest insult i can come with ;-) ) !!
    YOU GIVE NO ANSWERS !!! YOU NEVER DO !!! BECAUSE YOU ARE STUPID …AND BECAUSE YOU DARE AND MAY NOT !!
    PROOF: SURAH 5:101 says :
    "O you who believe, do not ask about things which, if they are shown to you, will distress you. But if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be shown to you. Allah has pardoned that which is past; and Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing."
    DO YOU SEE IT,BACKWARD MOHAMMEDAN?? WE COME WITH PROOFS, ….YOU COME WITH….NOTHING !!!!
    YOU MUSLIMS ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WORLD ! SO WHAT YOU GET IS THIS:
    BWWAAAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHA (I know this is painful for you narcistic slaves if a fake god ) !!

  105. Symptoms are confusing is this Schizo or Bipolar? Stress management part is OK but instead of laughing crying will ease stress more effectively !

  106. HI, ALIEN…SORRY ALI THE MUSLIM (biggest insult i can come with ;-) )!!
    YOU SAID TO ME :
    "Anyway, this one should be a blinder when you reply. Who is Allah and who is Satan?"
    WELL, STUPID MOHAMMEDAN SLAVE, YOU BELIEVE THAT ALLAH AND SATAN EXIST EXIST ! SO YOUR QUESTION TO ME IS SURELY A BLINDER ! BECAUSE ARE THE BELIEVER…. YOU KNOW THE ANSWER ( YOU THINK). SO TELL ME (US) THE ANSWER !!!
    YOU CAN,OF COURSE, NOT COME WITH: "IT IS IN THE QURAN", BECAUSE THIS WAS WRITTEN (ACCORDING TO YOU ) BY ALLAH AND MOHAMMED !! AND THEN YOU ARE ILLOGICAL ( A CIRCULAR ARGUMENT, YOU KNOW ;-) ). SO YOU MUST COME WOTH SOMETHING ELSE !!
    DO THE BEST YOU CAN !!!!! BWAHAHAHOHOHOHOHOOOO …..MAN YOUR FUNNY !!!!

  107. @ MOHAMMEDAN ALI(EN).
    THE QUESTIONS I ASKED YOU ARE VERY SIMPLE , SO EVEN YOU (AND AMIN-RAT TOO) CAN UNDERSTAND THEM , HAHAHAHAHA !!!
    1) WHO WROTE THE AYA-NUMBERS IN YOUR QURAN ! ???
    2) WHO WROTE THE SURAH-NUMBERS IN YOUR QURAN ! ???
    IT WAS NOT MOHAMMED (=ALLAH) ,THAT'S FOR SURE !! ;-)
    SO WHO CORRUPTED YOUR EVIL BOOK ???
    STILL THINKING ABOUT IT, ALI??? RAT ???
    ALL READERS ARE WAITNG FOR YOUR SCHOLARLY ANSWER !!!!!! BWAAAAAHAAAAHAHAHA !!!! DON'T BE OFFENDED MAN…. TRY TO THINK …FOR ONCE !!!
    THERE MUST BE SOME BACKWARD ANSWER ….SOME BACKWARD MUSLIM (biggest insult there is ;-) ) MUST HAVE CONCOCTED SOME SILLY EXCUSE ( LIE !! ). SEE YA ;-)

  108. I HAVE AN OTHER QUESTION FOR THE MUSLIMS !!!
    ESPECIALLY FOR THE "SCHOLARS" ( ALIEN AND RAT ).
    THE SURAHS IN THE QURAN ARE NOT WRITTEN CHRONOLOGICALLY ! I'M SURE YOU KNOW THIS .
    QUESTION:
    1) DID MOHAMMED (ALLAH) NAME THESE NUMBERS ? REMEMBER: for example surah 9 was one the last surahs, so its number should have been 114 or 113 …!
    2) IF NOT….WHO WROTE THESE NUMBERS IN THE QURAN.? I.E. WHO HAS BEEN CORRUPTING THE QURAN IN THIS WAY ???
    BONUS QUESTION :
    WHEN DID MOHAMMED (ALLAH?) GIVE THE SURAH-NAMES AS MENTIONNED IN YOUR "UNCHANGEABLE "QURAN ?
    GIVE PROOFS FROM THE AHADITH AND THE SIRAT …IF YOU CAN !!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!
    AGAIN A BIG JOKE FOR YOU, ALI(EN) !!

  109. To ALI, THE ALIEN.
    IT IS EASY TO GIVE YOU THE BIGGEST JOKE….EVER :
    JUST LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
    DON'T YOU REMEMBER WHERE YOU BELIEVE IN? IT IS YOU WHO LIVES IN A NON-EXISTING WORLD OF INVISIBLE AND INPROVABLE BEINGS LIKE ALLAH, SATAN,ANGELS, JINNS, BURAQ (the flying donkey) ,talking mountains, talking trees, talking ants, talking rocks, punishment of the grave, MUHABILA etc.etc. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
    YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ABSTRACT AND LOGICAL THINKING IS, ALI ! THAT'S ALL !!!!
    I AM SORRY TO SAY, BUT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU ARE A BRAINWASHED MOHAMMEDAN (insult !) . SO GET OVER IT ,PEACEFULL MUSLIM ( biggest insult). :-) ;-)

  110. To ALIEN THE BRAINWASHED MUSLIM !
    Ali,Ali,Ali….. YOU CAN NOT ANSWER ,HEY MUSLIM (biggest insult possible !) ??
    BUT THAT'S OKAY, ….I KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER , HAHAHAHA !
    NOW IT'S MY TURN AGAIN :
    ALI,DO YOU BELIEVE IN ALLAH AND SATAN ?? IF YOU ARE A REAL MUSLIM YOUR ANSWER SHOULD BE : YES ! SO THE BURDEN OF PROVING THE EXISTENCE OF ALLAH AND HIS OFFSPRING SATAN IS ON YOU!! IT IS YOU (the stupid one you see in the mirror) WHO MUST TELL WHO ALLAH AND SATAN ARE ! MAN…YOU ARE REALLY RETARDED !!
    I HOPE YOU ARE NOT OFFENDED NOW …..BWAHHAHAHAHOHOHOHAHAhAAAAAAAAAA!!!

  111. Yes, all 5 of them!

  112. Hey dikslurper, you back for more.

    OK Julian, where were we. Oh yes…………….you using Satan as your batting partner even though you don't believe in his existence. Solipsism syndrome in the flesh, you are Julian.

    Anyway, this one should be a blinder when you reply. Who is Allah and who is Satan?

    Make my day and give me the biggest joke of the year with your reply.

  113. HEY….ALIEN!!! STILL STRUGGLING WITH THE PROVEN EVILNESS OF YOUR GOD ALLAH ??
    REMEMBER ?? VERY QUICKLY RECAP :
    ALLAH IS THE CREATOR OF EVERYTHING (according to your Quran) , THEREFORE IS HE ALSO THE CREATOR AND THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL ( Satan inclusive,according to your Quran))) !
    WITHOUT ALLAH THERE WOULD BE NO EVIL !! SO WE CAN EVEN SAY THAT ALLAH IS MORE EVIL THAN SATAN HIMSELF !
    TRUE ? OR NOT TRUE ?
    A LOGICAL ANSWER PLEASE ….NO AD HOMINEMS,NO RED HERRINGS,NO STRAWMEN AND OTHER FALLACIES….. IF YOU CAN ??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!

  114. Salaam Julian my Muslim brother. Salaam, my dear, dear, dear dear, dear.

    I always knew you would one day give up the Jogi dik worshipping ways. However, we still have to deal with your tranny ways and delusional mental illness.

    But then and again,………………………….nah, you're better off being the Hindu t-o-s-s-e-r that you are. Easier for me to keep bashing you.

    Ain't it time for you to slurp some lingham down at the Mandir?

    Go on, gobble along now.
    :D

  115. Hey dikslurper, you back for more.

    OK Julian, where were we. Oh yes…………….you using Satan as your batting partner even though you don't believe in his existence. Solipsism syndrome in the flesh, you are Julian.

    Anyway, this one should be a blinder when you reply. Who is Allah and who is Satan?

    Make my day and give me the biggest joke of the year with your reply.:D

  116. Sorry muslim brother Ali.
    I am a …….TAQIYYA MUSLIM !!!!
    HAHAHHAHAhahagahahaHAHAHA !!!

  117. BWAHAHAHAHAHA !!!
    THE EVIL ,BACKWARD, PARANOÏD , MOHAMMADAN ALI(EN) IS ANGRY !!!
    MUSLIMS ARE ALWAYS ANGRY !!! I LIKE THAT !!! ;-)
    OH…I AM AN AGNOST !!! HAHAHAHA !!! ;-)

  118. ALI(EN), WE ARE STILL HERE ! ( ALZHEIMER ALLREADY ??)
    I CAN SEE THAT YOU ARE ANGRY, BECAUSE YOU ARE STUCK AND CAN NOT ANSWER !!! I LIKE THAT !!! BWAHAHAHAHA !!!
    IT IS REALLY SIMPLE:
    1) ALLAH CREATED EVERYTHING (according to YOU !)
    2) ALLAH CREATED SATAN TOO ( according to YOU !!)
    3) ALAH SENDS ASTRAY WHOM HE WILLS ( according to YOU !!!)
    4) SATAN SENDS ASTRAY TOO (that is his job), IF ALLAH ALLOWS ( according to YOU !!!!).
    5) ALAH AND SATAN BOTH SEND PEOPLE ASTRAY ( according to YOU !!!!!).I am an example ;-) (according to YOU !!!!!!)
    6) CONCLUSION: ISLAM IS SATANIC !!!!!!!
    WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS ARGUMENT ??? I ASK YOU !!!

  119. MUSLIMS ( AMINRIADH, ALI etc.) asked to prove that Islam is SATANIC !!

    No one asked "Julia" anything . . . the person is troll – whom Sina initially banned. When his own attitude and actions of swearing at Muslim commenters came under question – he allowed the troll back.

  120. Hey Julian aka Hindustani Hindu Julianchandarnatheeshmanpoojagupta.

    Struggling are we?

    Tine to come out to play. I am bored, so I need dimwit retard to pick on. Where are you, you Mormon pretending Hindu, living in Burampur Village?

    Have you finished your devil worshipping ritual yet, even though you claim to be Atheist, then Hindu, then Mormon, then Jew, then Muslim, then Buddhist, then Atheist, then fcuk knows what else?

  121. Islam will destroy itself, Julian?

    1400 years have passed and nothing has happened, but you and Ali Sina believe Islam will now destroy itself. Because your guys plan of destroying just flopped.

    Yeh right.

  122. my dear we have not been finished despite islam's best efforts for past 1000 years and ur talking u have finished me?
    true i have nothing more to harper about, i have learnt about islam and im done.
    i have all the info i will ever need.
    bye n have a good life.

  123. AHA….ARE YOU HIDING HERE YOU RAT !!
    WHAT ABOUT MY PROOF THAT ISLAM IS SATIC ACCORDING TI YOUR OWN QURAN !??
    PLEASE AN ANSWER THAT WORTHY FOR A QUASI-INTELLECTUAL MUSLI CLERIC !
    NOT A ONE SENTENCE-DRIVEL ANSWER !!! OR ARE YOU JUST A TROLL TOO
    ;-) ?

  124. WHERE IS THE MUSLIM CLERIC AMIN-RAT ??
    BLOWN UP HIMSELF ? LIKE A REAL GOOD MUSLIM SHOULD ?
    AND NOT ONLY PREACHING IT TO OTHERS , …..HEY RAT ? ;-)

  125. HEY, WHAT IS THAT DRIVEL OF YOURS ABOUT INDIA ?
    I'M NOT ON INDIA ! WHY DO YOU THINK THAT !!
    DO YOU SEE HINDUS EVERYWHERE . THAT IS A SIGN OF PARANOIA !
    A HORRIBLE ILLNESS !!

  126. OH…MY…(AGAIN).
    WE ARE ALL FINISHED …ALI THE MUSLIM ( biggest insult) SAYS SO !
    I THINK YOU ARE INFECTED BY A VERY DANGEROUS BACIL(LUS) !
    TO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE MOVIE POSSIBLE ABOUT YOUR FAKE PROPHET MOHAMMED !! THE MAN WAS SUCH A WICKED MAFIOSO , THAT THERE CAN BE MADE HUNDREDS OF MOVIES ABOUT THIS BASTARD !! COMICAL FILMS, THRILLERS, HORROR !! , WAR !!…YOU NAME IT !! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ( Ali(en) : Please don't laugh ,Julia !)

  127. @ ALI, (STILL A MUSLIM ?)
    IN YOUR CONCLUSION YOU MENTIONNED "GOD" ; THIS IS OF COURSE YOUR IDOL "ALLAH"
    AS MENTIONNED IN YOUR EVIL QURAN !
    IF THERE IS A REAL GOD ,THEN IT IS CERTAINLY NOT ALLAH NOR OF COURSE SATAN !!
    A REAL GOT SHOULD BE GOOD AND LOVING !!!

  128. HERE IS WHAT ALI ,HE MUSLIM , HIMSELF CONCLUDED FROM MY PROOF, THAT ISLAM IS SATANIC.
    THIS TIME HE WAS THINKTNG LOGICALLY AND CAME TO THE RIGHT CONCLUSION. !!
    QUOTE( ALI ) : " So, let's get this straight, you believe that God is asking us to seek protection from Himself because God really is Satan. So in effect Satan is asking us to seek protection from Satan because there is no God, so there is only Satan. "
    YEP,ALI , THAT IS THE CONCLUSION IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE QURAN,MOHAMMED,ALLAH AND SATAN , WHICH YOU DO !!!
    THAT'S HOW EVIL AND CRAZY YOUR CULT IS !!
    DON'T BLAME ME I AM ONLY THE MESSENGER (!), THIS CONCLUSION IS YOURS (AT LAST !).
    THINK ABOUT IT AND LEAVE THIS CRAZY CULT AS QUICK AS YOU CAN !!
    BECOME AN HONEST, NORMAL HUMAN BEING !!! ;-)

  129. THANKS STUPID MUSLIM ( BIG,BIG INSULT!) !!
    YOU DO EXACTLY WHAT I LIKE YOU TO DO !!!
    I'M HAVING GREAT FUN.
    YOU SAID:
    " So, let's get this straight, you believe that God is asking us to seek protection from Himself because God really is Satan. So in effect Satan is asking us to seek protection from Satan because there is no God, so there is only Satan. "
    AT LAST YOU START TO SEE THINGS AS THEY ARE IN YOUR QURAN!!!
    ACCORDING TO YOUR EVIL BOOK, IS ALLAH THE SAME AS SATAN.
    SO FOR YOU ( the man in the mirror,remember) THERE IS ONLY …SATAN. !! AND THAT IS THE ENTITY YOU BOW TO, 5 TIMES A DAY( year in year out) , BOUNCING YOUR STUPID HEAD AGAINST THE FLOUR !! HAHAHAHAHAH !!!
    IT'S THE TRUTH AND IT IS YOUR OWN CONCLUSION…..THINK ABOUT THIS WHEN YOU BOW DOWN AGAIN TO YOUR BLACK-STONE-VAGINA !!
    YOUY ARE ALMOST THERE….KEEP THINKING !

  130. Go an have lie down dear. . . maybe a hot drink to relax.

  131. You're finished ABC.

    You and your Guru Ali Sina have nothing left to harper on about.

    And you guys actually dreamt of the demise of Islam with Ali Sina's book and then the movie.

  132. Stuck again are we Julian?

    Of course Allah sends whom He wills astray and whom He wills He guides. Because He is Omnipresent and can do anything and everything. This is one fundamental understanding you seem to have forgotten and cannot grasp in your thick head. God can do anything He wills, whenever He wills. When He wills a thing, He only to say to it: Be! and it is!

    You and me are living proof of Surah 14:4. You are astray, while I am guided!

    I told you numerous times you was a living legend of stupidity in motion and you prove it time and time again. Forget scholars, I am your worst nightmare and will take you to school and back and then to school and back again and again and again, until I get bored of you.

    Now where were we retard………………………………….

  133. IRANIANS ARE LEAVING ISLAM IN MASS NUMBERS!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_beTQCH0qE&fe
    THE SNOWBALL HAS STARTED TO ROLL !!!!

  134. HERE IS ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqOgaOvWx3k&fe
    WATCH IT AND LEARN !!

  135. MUSLIMS ….THIS IS A VIDEO FOR YOU! WATCH IT : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StM8hGaCozk&fe

  136. raj,
    i am sorry but passing derogatory remarks to women folk is in very bad taste.
    please understand women are innocent victims of the wars of men. try to fight your battle without involvign them.
    it is not in our culture to berate women ………otherwise whats the difference between us and them?
    being a woman it is my duty to stand up for the cause fo women. it is not right to insult them.
    hope i have no offended and you and i udnerstand your reasons for doign what u have done but if possible try n refrian from involving women.
    good day and wishes
    fellow indian

  137. i really wish i am able to do something more to your cause . i am promoting it and raising awareness. there is a new sect of young men in india who are nationalists and are trying to make a change.
    i am sure one day we will see a better tomorrow.
    good day and regards

  138. superbly amazing demostration of islam and muslims.
    thanks …… did you know you are doing great service to ali sina , providing practical elaborations to his theories.
    their perception fo women and innocents.
    you may be angry at raj but you are dragging his innocent relatives into your blood bath. is this what your religion teaches you.
    if anyone had any doubts about what ali sina is saying, you have convinced them.
    so much of hate inside you, is it possibel for you to even breath and smile and lead a normal life?

  139. i know alittle about religions:

    1. Christianity is not a religion, its a way. Jesus himself taught that only two factions, its children of light against children of darkness. Similiar like Jedi and Sith.
    2. Hinduism teach 3 God: it is Creator, Destroyer, and Builder. But the real power is Krisna taht the real is God Univerese.
    3. Tao, teach no God but only Universe way like Rhonda Bryne the secrets.
    4.Islam teach similiar like Jews but in radical and wordly lust point of view.
    5. Jews teach similiar like Christiwns but they just dont get Jesus and Muhammed.
    6. Budha teqch everything is only an fantasia world of mind. It believes no God

  140. DEAR ALI !
    WHERE ARE YOU, BLACK-STONE VAGINA-KISSER ?
    WHERE IS MY MUZZIE MOUSE ALIEN? I WANT TO PLAY WITH YOU !!! KIDDY,KIDDY,KIDDY !!!
    WHAHAHAWHAHA !!!

  141. dr sina sorry fro the late reply. i am experienceing some problems with your site off late.
    you see hindus are divided on the basis of caste. and hindus are also way to complacent to react untill it is a calamity !
    however now movements are in place and hopefully the outcome would be a better governed state. but i am only partially optimistic.
    with so many religions and ethnicites it is impossible to unite india together. it will always be a bed of problems.

  142. i think you have a very partial idea of who is an enemy of civilisation.
    and i think you do have a point , i dont hold any office. i am just a commoner.
    i am offering an apology on behalf of indians or is that too hard for you to understand.
    your dressing down as i have said before ……… showcases your religion mroe than ali sina's words.
    ali sina says muslims hate other faiths and you showcase that .

  143. exactly i dotn care about your denial either. so dont bother to give me ur bull.

  144. HEY MEATHEADED MUSLIM ( biggest insult posssible)..ALI(EN)
    Are you on the streets in your hell-hole country trying to kill some westeners? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE
    YOUR EVIL DEAD PROPHET WAS OFFENDED ;-)
    IN A PEACEFUL WAY OF COURSE !! THE MUSLIM WAY ! ;-)
    LOOK OUT MAN, YOUR BROTHERS KILL YOU BY "MISTAKE" ( HAHAHAHAHA !!! OH…that humiliating laugh again ).!! BYE !!! ;-)

  145. I WILL TELL YOU A SCRET,ALI (EN).
    I AM A MORMON, AND I DO BELIEVE IN SATAN. !!! IT MAKES FOR LOGICAL THINKING
    PEOPLE NO DIFFERENCE OF COURSE. A PROOF IS A PROOF ! BUT IT WILL STOP YOUR WHYNING ! AND IT FORCES YOU TO THINK, BRAINWASHED AS YOU ARE, YOU CAN NOT HIDE AWAY NOW !!!

  146. "Trolling is natural outcome of long lasting hatred phenomenon mastered by group of community people mostly lacking intellectual capabilities."
    THIS IS THE BEST DESCRIPTION OF MUSLIMS I HAVE EVER SEEN !!!
    KUDOS TO YOU !!! CHEERS !!! HAHAHAHAHAHA !! WHAT A MUSLIM-MORON ;-)

  147. OH…MY…OUR DESTINY !!!!
    HAHAHAHAHAHA . WHAT A BACKWARD MORON YOU ARE ! YOU STILL LIVE IN THE 7th CENTURY YOU SILLY, BRAINWASHED BASTARD !!!!

  148. OH, YES ….ALWAYS WRONG TRANSLATIONS !!!
    HOW COME ? WHY DO YOU STUPID MUSLIMS NOT TRANSLATE YOUR EVIL QURAN IN THE RIGHT WAY FOR ONCE ?? OR ARE YOU AFRAIF OF THE TELLING THE TRUTH ??

  149. THERE WILL BE MORE MOVIES ABOUT YOUR EVIL FAKE PROPHET !!
    TELLING THE TRUTH !!! THE FILMMAKERS NEED ONLY USE YOUR VILE SCRIPTURE AND THE WHOLE WORLD WILL SEE WHAT KIND OF MAFIOSO MOHAMMED WAS. ISLAM WILL DESTROY ITSELF !!! WHETER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!
    ITS TIME HAS PAST !

  150. TO ALI(EN) THE MOHAMMADAN ( BIGGEST INSULT POSSIBLE ;-) )
    YOU SAID: "If Islam is Satanic, even though you don't believe in the existence of Satan (well done einstein), then how could God ask us to seek protection from Himself ".
    I HAVE ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT IT IS YOU WHO BELIEVES IN SATAN ! THAT IS THE POINT ,MUSLIM ( insult again).YOU (!!!) BELIEVE THE CRAP OF YOUR QURAN…I MOST
    CERTAINLY NOT !! THAT IS OBVIOUS ;-)
    YOU MUST ASK YOUR FAKE GOD ALLAH ABOUT THIS CONTRADICTION, NOT ME …MUSLIM (big insult ;-) ). I'M ONLY THE MESSENGER ;-)
    YOU YOURSELF PROVE NOW THAT THE QURAN CONTRADICTS ITSELF !
    DO YOU SEE IT , (first muslim nobelprize-winner ? ;-) ) ???
    I'LL GIVE YOU STILL ANOTHER SURAH THAT PROVES THAT I AM RIGHT :
    SURAH 14:4 SAYS:
    "And We did not send any messenger except in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and ALLAH SENDS ASTRAY WHOM HE WILLS and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise."
    SO ALLAH SENDS ASTRAY WHOM HE WILLS ( Q.14:4), SO HE DOES WHAT SATAN DOES
    AND ALLAH ASKS YOU MUSLIMS INDEED (16:98) TO SEEK PROTECTION FROM SATAN (ALLAH HIMSELF) ! HAHAHAHAHAH (sorry, quiet, parrot !)

  151. ISLAM IS FOR IDIOTS . MULLAHAS ARE SO BUTTHURT BECAUSE OF SAM BACILES MOVIE

  152. Well, Sam Bacile , fooled you if course !
    He seems to be a Jew ( a monkey or an pig, as you believe). YOU ARE BEEING FOOLED BY A MONKEY OR A PIG …WHAT A JOKE ! THIS SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT YOU, BACKWARD MUSLIMS (biggest insult possible ;-) ) .!!!!
    BUT THER WILL BE MANY MORE MOVIES ABOUT YOUR EVIL FAKE PROPHET, WHETER YOU BACKWARD MOHAMMEDANS LIKE OT OR NOT !! SO YOU CAN GO CRAZY AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE ;-) ,IT WILL NOT HELP YOU .I AM SURE THE MOVIE OF ALI SINA WILL DRIVE YOU MAD !! HAHHAHAHA ( Stop you smart parrot, Ali is suffering !)
    THINKING ABOUT BLOWING UP YOURSELF, HEY ALI(EN)….DO IT MAN…DON'T BE A HYPOCRITE , YOUR FAKE ALLAH HATES HYPOCRITES ! ;-) ;-)

  153. TO ALI THE MUSLIM .
    FROM NOW ON I WILL MOSTLY CALL YOU : "MUSLIM(SLAVE)" OR "MOHAMMADAN", (TO MAKE IT SIMPLE FOR YOU ;-) . THESE ARE THE BIGGEST INSULTS I CAN THINK OF FOR A HUMAN BEING ! A MUSLIM OR MOHAMMEDAN IS A FOLLOWER OF MOHAMMED AND THEREFORE A LIAR, THIEF, RAPIST, LERCHER, WIFEBEATER, MURDERER …ENFIN …YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN !!! I HOPE YOU'R NOT OFFENDED NOW, IT OS ONLY THE TRUTH !!!!
    SO LISTEN MUSLIM ( big insult !), YOU SAID:
    "You are the one who doesn't believe in the existence of Satan, but you claim Islam is Satanic! "
    NOW ,FOR YOU,REALLY SIMPLE…I REPEAT, BECAUSE YOU STILL DON'T GET IT :
    1) YOU BELIEVE IN THE QURAN AND THEREFORE IN SATAN ! …CORRECT ? (yes says Ali ;-) )
    2) LOGICAL DEDUCTION FROM SURAH'S OF YOUR QURAN LEADS YOU TO THE CONCLUSION
    THAT ISLAM IS SATANIC. THAT IS ALL, ALI(EN) …IT IS REALLY QUITE SIMPLE !!!
    YOUR somewhat more intelligent MUSLIM(insult)BROTHER AMINRIADH is silent about this PROOF, which in Islam means HE CONSENTS ( you know what I mean:" the silence of a virgin means her consent") ) ;-)

  154. Here is the PROOF again that the muslims like ALI and AMINRIADH are trying to avoid , with all kinds if TAQIYYA ! THEY TRY TO RUN ,WITHOUT ANSWERING !! IT WILL NOT WORK ;-) .SO AGAIN :
    Surah 22:4 says:"It has been decreed for every DEVIL that whoever turns to him – he will misguide him and will lead him to the punishment of the Blaze."
    So the devil (Satan) is (are) the one(s) who sends people astray !
    What is the NAME of the entity in the QURAN that misguides people and sends them astray ?
    Surah 4:88 says: "What is [the matter] with you [that you are] two groups concerning the hypocrites, while Allah has made them fall back [into error and disbelief] for what they earned. Do you wish to guide those whom ALLAH HAS SENT ASTRAY? And he whom Allah sends astray – never will you find for him a way [of guidance]."
    SO THE NAME IF THE ENTITY THAT SENDS PEOPLE ASTRAY IS ALLAH !!
    CONCLUSION: ALLAH IS SATAN.
    ISLAM IS THE RELIGION WHICH ALLAH ONLY APPROVES (Surah 3:85) . SO ISLAM IS SATANIC !! Q.E.D.
    NOW ANSWER….YOU MUSLIM SLAVES…..IF YOU CAN !!! WITHOUT SILLY EXCUSES !

  155. Just like how all readers have seen how your Guru Ali Sina has made his movie, hey Julian? That's exactly how you've knocked me down. ROFL.

    Because you suffer from Attention Seeking Syndrome, somebody has to do the schitty job of giving you that attention, so be it. Aminriadh doesn't want to deal with you for obvious reasons as you can take up a lot of valuable time and you do have a few marbles missing in the upstairs department, but me on the other hand. I have all the time in the world to put you in check.

    Nervous laugh again, is it?

  156. What part of the English language are you struggling with Julian. Come on, you can tell me. I promise I won't ridicule you.
    :D

    You are the one who doesn't believe in the existence of Satan, but you claim Islam is Satanic!

    Are you really surprised why everyone picks on you with the logic you show?

    You are one of the subscribers who believed in a game plan of defeating Islam with Ali Sina's movie and that yesterday, has come crumbling down thanks to Sam Becile.

    What more is there left for you? NOTHING.

    When people are utterly defeated and despondent, they usually have a nervous laughter such as yours because when people like you have found themselves placed under a high degree of emotional pressure, this is their defence mechanism. You do it in literally every post of yours.

    This told us from the offset, there were a few screws missing in the upstairs department and we were dealing with a repetitive parrot syndrome retard who uses the HAHAHAHAHA as his decoy. And the best part is, you proved us RIGHT!

    Run along now Mr. Laughter. Keep laughing whilst you're running so you don't show everyone how nervous you really are.

    Julian the chameleon………………I mean comedian.

    ;)

  157. SEE ,HE IS BACK ! THE BRAINWASHED CRETIN CAN"T LET GO .
    I TOLD YOU !!!
    NOW ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT MY PROOF ISLAN BEING SATANIC !
    YOU ASKED FOR A PROOF YOURSELF !
    I ONLY USED YOUR OWN EVIL BOOK !!
    BUT YOU CAN NOT REFUTE IT ! THAT'S WHY YIU SEEL A STUPID WAY OUT !
    AMIN-RAT IS A LITTLE BIT SMARTER AS YOU ARE….HE SAYS NOTHING !!
    GANE IVER….INDEED.! AND HERE COMES THE PAIN AGAIN FOR YOU ….
    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAHAAAAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!
    ALL READERS HAVE SEEN HOW I KNOCKED YOU DOWN !!

  158. YOU ARE RIGHT : GAME OVER !
    FOR ISLAM AND ALL THE EVIL MUSLIMS LIKE YOU !!
    THANK YOU FOR ADMITTING IT !!!
    YOU COULD NOT REFUTE MY PROOF ABOUT ISLAM BEING SATANIC ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN EVIL QURAN !
    I AM SURE YOU CAN'T LET GO… BECAUSE ISLAM HAS MADE YOUR SICK IN YOUR HEAD !
    YOU MUST REACT …EVEN THOUGH YOU REALLY CANNOT . I BET YOU ! Only silly answers !
    WE WILL SEE … AND OF COURSE: HERE IS MY ,FOR YOU, VERY PAINFUL MOCKING LAUGH , HAHAHAHAHA !!! (The arrogant muslims hate it being ridiculed, that is why they go crazy as some one mocks the dead Mlhammed)
    Thank for letting me play with you, like a cat with a mouse…but now the mouse is dead, Ithink ! ;-)

  159. Julian is now believing in the existence of Satan, even though he doesn't believe in the existence of Satan.

    Just like your understanding of 1 of 2!

    Home made tripe.

    No schooling can help you. You are beyond help anymore.

    No one on earth can be this dumb.

  160. TO ALI the retarded Mathematician.
    I DON'T NEED TIME ! HMMM …DUDE.
    IT IS YOU, YOU, YOU… SILLY MOHAMMEDANS WHO BELIEVE IN SATAN AND THE QURAN.
    HERE WE GO AGAIN, JUST AS WITH THE (for you difficult) PROBABILITY "PROBLEM".
    IF YOU FOLLOW THE RULES OF LOGIC ( Do it this time better as with the probablity ;-) )
    THEN IS ACCORDING TO YOUR QURAN ISLAM SATANIC.
    WHAT I BELIEVE OR ACCEPT IS NOT OF YOUR BUSINESS !
    YOU…YOU MUST DEDUCE LOGICALLY AND IF YOU DO ,THEN YOU,…YOU…YOU MUST COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION AS I DID !
    I THINK YOU TOOK ENOUGH TIME NOW TO DO THAT….DUDE ( ;-) )… .SO DON'T TRY TO GET AWAY !!! YOU COWARD !
    THE SAME REASONING CAN BE USED BY SOME ONE WHO DOES BELIEVE IN SATAN, SO THAT A SILLY POINT (AGAIN!) HAHAHAHAHA ( F!CK, THAT HURTS HEY, MOHAMMEDAN ALI ) !
    OH…AND ISLAM WILL BE DESTROYED….FOR SURE ;-) ;-)

  161. Game over.

    Next!!

  162. I told you Julian, you was done.

    It's all over for you mate.

    Find another hobby.

  163. @Julian. Game over dude. Game over.

    You're done.

    There's nothing left on here for you.

    Finito!

  164. ANSWER TO MY PROOF,YOU RAT . YOU CAN'T AND THAT IS WHY TRY TO ESCAPE WITH THE NONSENSE OF THE ALIEN KID.
    THIS SILLY BOY WANTS GAME TO BE OVER, BECAUSE HE IS BEATEN UP LIKE A SLAVE !!
    YOU BOYS CANNOT KICK, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO FOOT TO STAND ON !HAHAHA !
    THIS LAUGHING IS PAINFUL FOR ARROGANT MOHAMMEDANS. I know…I know…;-)

  165. OH YES !!!
    WE ALWAYS HAVE OUR FREEDOM !!
    WE ARE NO SLAVES LIKE YOU( LOW LIFE ) AND NEVER WILL BE.
    THE GANE JUST HAS STARTED !!!
    AS LONG AS THERE ARE BRAINWASHED CRETINS WE WILL HAVE FUN !!! HAHAHAHA

  166. "THE SENTENCE MEANS THAT"

    What you wrote was that bad . . . you had to provide an interpretation – which wasn't even alluded to by your own original words. . .

    "So we have to REHASH AND REHASH , that's logical !"

    This sentence is simply idiotic . . . by clarifying the way you did . . . you actually affirms what I said.

    - – -

    Rehashing shiite . . . . is far worse than producing it in the 1st place.

  167. I don't like your way Ali – But this made me laugh. . .

    "How many times do you have to be kicked up the backside with a foot to realise it is a kick, Julian? "

    Even the person it's aimed at laughed.

  168. So Ali,
    Atheist killed the most. Let me see. For 1400 (or at least 1300 ) years Islam killed every single atheist under islam. For very long periods islam didn't kill atheist because there was nobody to kill. Every atheist kept quiet. Even now the atheist keep their believes to themselves in great majority of Islamic counties. And you want to count this as tolerance from islam. Not killing atheist because there non identifiable. And by the way this was not just islam. And when finally the atheists had the means to fight back there were called killers. Keep in mind it always has been like that atheist loose they get slaughtered completely to the last man. And you want to deny them the right to defend them self from a lunatic religion like yours.
    Please tell me what happened when Mohammad conquered Arabia to all people that are not people of the Book. It was kill or get killed.
    And it continues to this day for Islam. Other religions learned their lesson.

  169. THEN WHY ARE YOU SO CONCERNED ,KID ( AND THE OTHER INBRED CRETINS ) ?
    WHY ???
    YOU KEEP COMMING BACK ….THAT MEANS YOU ARE AFRAID !!
    YOUR FAKE PROPHET BEGAN ALSO ALONE AND LATER WITH A LITTLE BUNCH OF FOLLOWERS ! MOST THINGS START SMALL !!
    WE HAVE INTERNET AND ALREADY MANY,MANY FIGHTERS !
    ISLAM WILL OF COURSE BE DESTROYED !! NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT .
    NOT ALL HUMAN BEINGS WANT TO KILL EVERYBODY ELSE BECAUSE A MEDIEVIAL IDOL TELLS THEM TO !
    MOST PEOPLE WANT TO BE FREE !! LIIK AT IRAN …ISLAM IS FALLING DOWN THERE ALREADY !! COME ON ,WITH YOUR LANE AND SILLY REACTION !! HAHAHAHAHA !!!

  170. Game over denialisnoproof, game over.

    You have Sam Bacile to thank for it.

    Game fcuking over.

    What do you have left? NOTHING.

  171. But you call Islam Satanic even though you don't believe in devils?

    What a dimwit.

    You're such a retard, you studied all weekend for a urine test!

  172. But you don't believe Satan exists, do you Julian?

    So how can it be Satanic and how could you use Satanic in your argument?

    Stuck again are we?

  173. Ali the penis slice . why you muzzies are so butthurt in the name of islam .
    your information control cult will fail in the age of information.
    the truth about islam is out .
    you can't do anything

  174. No it doesn't retard. How could you pretend to understand Arabic when you can barely understand English and have no idea of the Arabic language. There is not a single Hadeeth in existence saying that Mohammed wore women's clothing. This is something Sam Shamoun has concocted and is now backtracking. No one in history I know of wrote these conclusions before Shamoun wrote them.

    Stick to Hindi.(even that will be difficult for you)

    Moving onto the parents jibe you took, you don't even know who your father is Julian, let alone talking about cousins!

    And what do we call people who don't know their father….. that's right. Bastard aka Haraami!

    Oooooooh. That one hurt so much, I could feel it through the computer screen.

  175. AFTER 3 DAYS THERE IS STILL NO ANSWER FROM MUSLIMS TO MY PROOF (ABOVE) THAT ISLAM IS SATANIC !!
    EVEN THOUGH IT IS A SIMPLE PROOF,ONLY USING VERSES OF THE QURAN !!
    I ASSUME THAT THEY AGREE !!!! ;-0
    THANK YOU….AND NOW LEAVE YOUR EVIL CULT ….COME ON….IT IS CLEAR NOW…
    YOU ARE BEING FOOLED FOR 1400 YEARS !!!

  176. AFTER 3 DAYS THERE IS STILL NO ANSWER FROM MUSLIMS TO MY PROOF (ABOVE) THAT ISLAM IS SATANIC !!
    EVEN THOUGH IT IS A SIMPLE PROOF,ONLY USING VERSES OF THE QURAN !!
    I ASSUME THAT THEY AGREE !!!! ;-0 ;-)
    THANK YOU….AND NOW LEAVE YOUR EVIL CULT ….COME ON….IT IS CLEAR NOW…
    YOU ARE BEING FOOLED FOR 1400 YEARS !!!

  177. Oh…my.. He has found it: "infatuation".
    But you found the wrong word of course, being a "Mathematician"(Probability specialist ;-) ), and not a linguist.
    You meant to say ,of course, "infection" by the Islamic cancer .
    No , follower of the evil crossdresser, I am, thank God (not you wicked Idol allah !) not infected with Islam. And I never will be, because I have a big anti-dose …of common sense !!! HAHAHA ( yep, this is painful ).
    I don't believe in crazy stuff like: Jinns, Alif,Lam Meem, talking ants, stone vagina's, devils, heaven, hell, holy kaaba, halal, haraam, shariah, punishment of the grave,allah, Quran, Ahadith, Sirat, sunna, shia,angels ….Well you all this crap !!! And certainly also NOT in lingam,Shiva, etc…

  178. OH, SILLY KID ALI(EN) !
    TO MAKE IT SHORT : FEE THAWB IMRA'AH (Arabic) means IN A WOMAN'S GARMENT !! AGAIN, FOR BRAINDEAD MUSLIM ZOMBIES…IMRA'AH means WOMEN !!
    SEE IT….INBRED CRETIN !!
    BY THE WAY: YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER ARE FULL COUSINS …AREN'T THEY ??
    YES…BE HONEST FOR ONCE !! YOU CAN !! TRY IT !! HONEST !!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

  179. AND YOU CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF JALAL ABUALRUB AND THE LIKES ! ;-)
    WE KNOW YOU ARE GREAT LIARS !! IT IS ALL STUPID COPY /PASTING WHAT YOU DO !
    BUT STILL MOHAMMED WAS A CROSS DRESSER !
    SAM SHAMOUN ( THO YOU HATE OF COURSE, BECAUSE HE TELLS YOU THE TRUTH ) CRUSHED YOUR NONSENSE HERE : http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/re
    FATHER ZAKARIA BOTROS THE FAMOUS (ARABIC SPEAKING SCHOLAR SAYS THE SAME ABOUT YOUR INSANE CAMEL( F*CKER ) , HAHAHAHAHAHA !! http://www.fatherzakaria.net/ ( YOU HATE HIM EVEN MORE THEN SAM SHAMOUN…DON'T YOU ? YEP…THE TRUTH CAN BE HARD TO BREAR ;-) )

  180. Game over Julian. Game over.

  181. Oh yes Julian. You have destroyed so much of Islam that only one little push and Islam will be gone forever.

    What a retard.

    You're so stupid, you tried to strangle yourself with a cordless phone when you heard the movie was made and Ali Sina is finished.

  182. STUPID,SILLY MUSLIM KID !

  183. STUPID SILLY MUSLIM KID !!!

  184. Keep barking Julian. You guys are finished.

    It's going to be even more fun watching you try to push a camel through the eye of a needle.

  185. How could you prove Islam is Satanic when you don't believe or accept Satan exists?

    Take your time dude, take your time.

  186. @Julian. You guys are finished. Sam Bacile made sure of that.

    You have absolutely nothing left to bank on. You can change your goal posts, dress up your defeat, hide the fact you have nothing left in your arsenal and keep harping on about this movie of Ali Sina, when it is already out there and nothing which you guys thought was going to happen has happened.

    I actually could have saved you the trouble and embarrassment and could have told you for free, nothing will happen, which to be fair I have said all along. Your dreams of Islam being removed, weakened or wiped out are only dreams and will never happen in anyone's lifetimes, and we will be the power to be and chosen ones until the end of times.

    Get over it you accursed ignorant losers. Get over it and wake up to reality.

    What are you guys going to do now? Even the potential investors Ali Sina was poaching for the movie will pull out.

    It's over. You're done.

  187. YOU CAN'T EVEN READ ( LIKE YOUR CRAZY FAKE PROPHET !).
    THE SENTENCE MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO REHASH……FOR YOU….OF COURSE !
    IT IS YOU WHO STILL DON'T GET IT !! ARE YOU BRAIN DEAD ? IT MUST BE ;-)
    DIDN'T YOU EVEN GET THIS ? YOU ARE CERTAINLY SOME SCHOLAR !!! HAHAHA !!
    WE WANT ANSWERS IF YOU SILLY BASTARD !!
    WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE: A TROLL IS A TROLL IS A TROLL ….ALIF, LAM , MEEM….BEEP…BURP !!! ?? YOU TALK LIKE YOUR SLAVE MASTER MOHAMMED !

  188. TO ALIEN.
    "We don't have to prove anything to you."
    YOU ASKED US TO PROVE THAT ISLAM IS SATANIC !!
    I GAVE YOU A PROOF !! AND NOW I ASK YOU TO ANSWER !
    BUT YOU CAN NOT , THAT IS VER CLEAR !
    THANK YOU ! HAHAHA ( AGAIN .!! I KNOW IT IS PAINFUL TO BE RIDICULED FOR MUSLIMS, HAHAHA ). ;-)

  189. — "How many times do you have to be kicked up the backside with a foot to realise it is a kick, Julia? "
    HAHAHA ( AUCH !! MUSLIM DON'T LIKE TO BE RIDICULED, I KNOW…IT TS BECAUSE OF THEIR LOW SELF-ESTEEM ,OF COURSE !!).
    LISTEN ,BACKARD SLAVE.. YOU DID NOT EVEN TOUCH ME ONCE ! A LITTLE RASCAL LIKE YOU IS ONLY RIDICULOUS !
    I'M ONLY PLAYING A BIT WITH YOU MUSLIMS !! I KNOW I WILL NEVER GET ANSWERS OF YOU !
    IT IS FUNNY TO SEE HOW YOU ,ALIEN AND AMIN-RAT REALLY (?) THINK YOU HAVE ANSWERED QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUT MEDIEVAL CULT . BUT YOU NEVER DO .
    You look exactly like your fake prophet who was several times possessed… , he also thaught he did things which he never did !!
    PROOF(AGAIN) :
    Narrated Aisha:
    Once the Prophet was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 53, Number 400)
    YIU ARE REALLY FUNNY, YOU MUSLIMS…BUT ALSO VERY EVIL !!!

  190. OH…ALI(EN) . THER IS A MUHABILA GOING ON FFI.
    SEE HERE : http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/quran-koran/
    (on page 1 of the comments , you can read mire about it) ;-)
    Muslims are busy asking your evil fake god ALLAH to kill me before 23-9-2012.
    I even help them with cursing …really ..!!!
    But i am still kicking ass !! HURRY UP ,ALIEN ( GENIUS MATHEMATICIAN )…PERHAPS ALLAH LISTENS TO YOU !! HAHAHA.
    FOR MORE IN MUBAHILA , if you don't know what is (PROBANLY !),SEE HERE : http://alisina.org/blog/2012/02/17/mubahila-the-i

  191. –"We don't have to prove anything to you."
    WHAT YOU REALLY MEAN IS: "WE (BACKWARD MUSLIMS) CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING ABOUT ISLAM ". THAT'S THE TRUTH !!!! ( SILLY KID !! ALI, THE GENIUS MUSLIM MATHEMATICIAN, EXPERT IN PROBABILITY ,HAHAHA !).
    –"You are the ones with the problem, so go and find your cure."
    WELL, ALIEN (the genius mathematician ;-) ) , ISLAM IS OUR PROBLEM , AND A VERY EVIL ONE TOO. AND WE KNOW THE CURE !! WE ARE GOING TO DESTROY IT, WHETER YOU BACKWARD MUSLIMS LIKE IT OR NOT !! SO GET IVER IT ( ;-) ) AS YOU ALSWAYS SAY !!!
    Hey Ali(en ) carry on kissing YONI ( the vagina) of your IDOL LAT ( godess of fertility) !

  192. "Would You Like to be a Muslim?"
    NO !!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH !
    I DON'T LIKE TO KILL OTHER PEOPLE FOR THE FAKE GOD ALLAH, INVENTED BY AN EVIL SEFISH MAN , THE FAKE PROPHET MOHAMMED ( also clalled THE INSANE CAMEL ) .
    I RATHER AM BUSY WITH DESTROYING THIS WICKED CULT ! BYE !!! ;-)

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  194. Very true. It is really embarrassing to go to bed with someone and remarry your husband. I would never accept that wife again. It is really humiliating. I wld never want any lady in my family to go thru that. It is a kind of prostitution. Allah really promoted prostitution.

  195. Clutching at straws are you Julian?

    Your world has just come crashing down, with the movie that Ali Sina can no longer make, as Sam Bacile has beaten him to it.

    You guys have nothing else left in your arsenal!
    :D

  196. How many times do you have to be kicked up the backside with a foot to realise it is a kick, Julian?

    Do you actually suffer from redundant acronym syndrome amongst your other ailments?

    Like I have already said, compared to you, we are not only scholars and intellectually superior, we are geniuses. You can keep barking until the cows (your gods) come home, we will still be the head honchos and you will be the retarded dimwit known as the ignorant. No matter what answers you are given, you still cannot understand, so we now have to go back to the 'STFU retard' responses.

    We don't have to prove anything to you. You are the ones with the problem, so go and find your cure. Whether it's a gay bar or brothel, we don't give a schit. You're the enemies of civilizations, are known as the ignorants and have the curse of God, Angels and Mankind on you collectively. You should be privileged we are even talking to filth like you.

    Run along now, it's time for you to worship the dik (shiv lingham).

  197. Can't you get enough of Sam Shamoun, Julian?

    Has it not been broken down for you dimwit.

    ‘Fee’ has a host of meanings, such as ‘in; under; on; above; inside, within, etc.’ Additionally, had ‘Fee’ in the Hadeeth Shamoun corrupted meant ‘wearing’, then, the narration of the same Hadeeth by Imam Muslim (4427) would mean that both the Prophet and Aishah were wearing her Thaub. That would be one huge Thaub, because wasn't Aisha only 9 years old? So how could a man fit into this Thaub?

    Furthermore, `Aun al-Ma`bud fi Shar`h-i Sunan-i Abi Dawud, defines ‘Li`haf’ as: ‘Whatever you cover with (i.e., blanket)’, as Abu Ubaid stated, adding that ‘Li`haf’ is in reference to every ‘Thaub’ used as a ‘Li`haf’, i.e., as a blanket as Abu Ubaid stated. In, al-Misba`h: ‘Mil`hafah (as in ‘Li`haf’!) is defined as: every ‘Thaub’ used to cover with.

    ‘Li`haf’ was used by Aishah herself to mean what she covered with in bed. Al-Bukhari (478) and Muslim (795) narrated that Aishah said, “I would be laying in bed and the Prophet, peace be upon him, would come and pray facing the middle of the bed. Since I disliked standing in front of him in his prayers, I used to slip away slowly and quietly from the foot of the bed until I got out of my Li`haf (quilt).” Also, an authentic Hadeeth, from the grade Hasan, collected in Sahih Ibn Majah (526) reported that Um Salamah, the Prophet’s wife, said, “I was with Allah’s Messenger Fee (under) his Li`haf when what touches women (menses) touched me; I slipped out of the Li`haf.” It would be a huge Li`haf if both the Prophet and his wife ‘wore’ it together.

    Here is why the likes of you did not use the translation of Hilali-Khan for this Hadeeth. “Do not hurt me regarding Aishah, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aishah.” This is the real meaning.

    You can now kiss my a@@ tranny.

  198. "So we have to REHASH AND REHASH , that's logical !"

    Well – When you have such brains and intelligence about . . . . says it all.

    A troll is . . . what a troll says!

  199. "As for the terrible articles of this site! I mean does he really have to rehash everything – answering-islam wrote on a decade or so ago? "
    Well you muslims still don't get ! So we have to REHASH AND REHASH , that's logical !! IT IS NOT OUR FAULT THAT YOU ARE BRAINWASHED. WE ONLY TRY TO CLEAN YOU OF YOUR MUSLIM FILTH . WE MEAN IT WELL ! ;-)
    SO, we want answers from you , Amin-Rat ! You don't answer anything. You'r only boasting being a scholar, an intellectual. But we see no proof of it….NOTHING !( By the way: We don't count the Alien-kid at all,of course. SORRY KID).
    So we keep on exposing your evil cult !!! On and on !! YES , WE KNOW THAT IT IS A PAINFUL PROCES ! SORRY FOR THAT TOO !

  200. Amin-Rat,you are afraid . And you too Ali(en) ,silly kid !
    PUH,PUH,PUH….no excuses now…..You are afraid ! THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT !! ;-) We understand . RELAX !!!
    Why else should come back here over and over with silly drivel.
    Boasting that you are scholars , you both ! SCHOLARS ??? AMAZING !!
    Where is your answer to my proof that Islam is SATANIC !!!????
    OR ARE YOU AGAIN THINKING THAT YOU CAME WITH AN ANSWER ?

  201. SALAAM BROTHER ALIEN !!! YOU HAVE CONVERTED ME !!You are great scholar !!! Thank you for your wisdom and kindness. I am a slave too now!!….SO !!!
    Now, don't be a coward nomore and… BWAMMMMM….blow up yourself now !!
    DO IT FOR OUR ALLAH AND OUR BELOVED PROPHET MOHAMMED. PLEASE!! AS SOON AS YOU ARE "MARTYR ",THÁT MOMENT WILL GIVE ME THE BEST FEELING !!
    TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE IN THE MUSLIM WHOREHEAVEN, THÁT WILL MAKE ME VERY HAPPY , BUT…..IT IS UP TO YOU….IS YOUR BELIEVE IN ALLAH STRONG ENOUGH? I REALLY HOPE SO !! BYE ,BYE ….;-) BYE, bye….

  202. DID YOU SEE THE "PEACEFUL" REACTIONS OF YOUR BACKWARD MUSLIMBROTHERS !!!??_AGAIN AND AGAIN YOU MUSLIM PROVE THAT WE ( FIGHTERS AGAINST YOUR EVIL CULT ) ARE RIGHT !_EVEN THE POLITICAL "CORRECT"AND THE LEFTIES ( BURAK HUSSEIN OBAMA) START SEEING THE TRUTH !!!_BY THE WAY : THERE ARE MANY FILMS ABOUT JESUS ! _SO MORE MOVIES TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT YOUR EVIL FAKE PROPHET MOHAMMED ARE VERY WELCOME AND NEEDED !_

  203. Amin riadh answer this question.

  204. TO ALIEN ,THE ISLAMIC MATHEMATICIAN (PROBABILITY-SPECIALIST ! ;-) ) AND QUASI-INTELLECTUAL ( I.Q. -10)
    I AM SORRY TO SAY ALI(EN) BUT THE REAL CROSSDRESSER WAS YOUR EVIL FAKE PROPHET MOHAMMED (THE INSANE CAMEL).
    PROOF ( NOT LIKE YOUR SILLY DRIVEL) :
    … So Um Salamah went and talked with the prophet but he did not respond to her. When the group asked her what the prophet said she told them that he did not respond. So they asked her to go talk to him again until he responds… then the prophet said to her, “Do not hurt me with Aisha, for the inspiration did not come upon me when I was IN A WOMAN’S GARMENT (fee thawb imra’ah) EXCEPT THAT OF AISHA.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Hadith Number 2393,Volume Title, “Grace and its Virtues.”Chapter Title, “What was Granted to the Companions and the Wives.” )
    MORE AHADITH CONFIRMING THIS :
    Sahih al-Bukhari, Hadith Number 3941 Volume Title, “The Book of Virtues.” Chapter Title, “The Virtues of Aisha.”

  205. Can you not read denialisnoproof?

    The movie has already been made by Sam Bacile with a budget of $5 million. He has done exactly what Ali Sina has been planning for years as his next money fleecing scheme.

    The movie is here and sweet fk'all has happened to Islam.

    When will you guys ever learn?

    This movie stance was you guys last ditched attempt and even then you have been pipped to the post by an American Jew Sam Bacile, who for the record has just gone into hiding.

    Ali Sina must be at the local A&E suffering a nervous breakdown. His scheme is all over.

    Maybe a sitcom about Ali Sina's life? ……………………..that should be a laugh.

  206. Salaam brother Julian!

    How you getting on being a Muslim? Must be the best feeling in the world.
    :D

  207. Just like the book! I recommend it . . . for a good laugh. In the name of good scholarship . . . . I reject the book – just on those grounds.

    As for the terrible articles of this site! I mean does he really have to rehash everything – answering-islam wrote on a decade or so ago?

  208. IT IS YOU WHO MUST BELIEVE IN JINNS ,NOT ME !! I ONLY LAUGH ABOUT THAT MEDIEVAL NONSENSE !
    YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND SOME SIMPLE SATYRE. I KNOW IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR MUSLIMS TO THINK ABSTRACTLY , OR (for a backward muslim like you) TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX ! YOU SIMPLY CAN NOT . AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I FIND SO FUNNY ABOUT YOU AND YOUR RETARDED INBRED BROTHERS . SO I CAN PLAY AROUND WITH YOU .
    REMEMBER YOUR SILLY DISCUSSION ABOUT PROBABILITY !
    I AM SURE YOU STILL DON'T GET IT !!! HAHAHAHAHA ( AUCH!!! )

  209. Ali sina when is your movie getting released ?
    Ali the musleem should be made to see it first

  210. TO THE ISLAMIC "MATHEMATICIAN"
    ALI(EN) ;-) .
    I KNOW THAT YOU THINK YOU ANSWERED THE ALIF,LAM,MIM -SH!T IF YOUR 7th CENTURY WIZZARD BOOK !
    JUST AS YOU THINK YOU KNOW PROBABILITY ! HAHAHA (AGAIN !! AUCH !!). THERE ARE MANY MUSLIM "ANSWERS" :
    1)ALLAH KNOWS BEST?
    2) NOBODY REALLY KNOWS?
    3) IT IS A MIRACLE OF ALLAH? HAHAHA!!
    4) IT'S CHILDISH NUMEROLOGY ?
    5) IT IS "GREAT" POESY ! ;-)
    6) ALLAH'S BOOK IS WITHOUT DOUBT , CLEAR AND EXPLAINED IN DETAIL !
    SO ,IT IS, WHATEVER YOU SAY
    THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. !!
    THAT IS NO ANSWER ,KID , OH SORRY,… ADULT MUSLIM INTELLECTUAL !! HAHAHA (AUCH !!).
    WHAT YOU MADE CLEAR TO ME IS WHY NO REAL MUSLIM OR ARAB EVER WINS A NOBELPRIZE.
    EVEN YOUR ADULT INTELLECTUALS CAN'T THINK LOGICALLY !
    WHAT A PATHETIC MUSLIM CHILD YOU ARE , ALI(EN) E.T . !!!
    GO ASK YOUR BIG BROTHER AMIN-RAT FOR HELP !!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

  211. Someone has beaten Ali Sina to the movie production. It's already made.

    By the way Ali Sina, someone has already beaten you to the movie. Sam Bacile. He's actually produced a movie and is an American citizen who said he produced, directed and wrote the two-hour film. The movie depicts Mohammad as a fraud, a womanizer and a madman in an overtly ridiculing way, showing him having sex and calling for massacres.

    His plan is to make a series of 200 hours about the same subject.

    That being the case, and according to your logic, we should now start seeing the demise of Islam, shouldn't we? Plus this movie should start the debate rolling and Muslims leaving Islam in droves.

    I really do feel it for you Ali Sina. Someone beat you at your own game and has just snatched that glory you so craved, right under your nose.

    What now?
    :D

  212. Sorry to burst your bubble denialisnoproof, but someone has already beaten Ali Sina to the movie. Sam Bacile. He's actually produced a movie and is an American citizen who said he produced, directed and wrote the two-hour film. The movie depicts Mohammad as a fraud, a womanizer and a madman in an overtly ridiculing way, showing him having sex and calling for massacres.

    His plan is to make a series of 200 hours about the same subject.

    That being the case, and according to Ali Sina's logic, we should now start seeing the demise of Islam, shouldn't we? Plus this movie should start the debate rolling and Muslims leaving Islam in droves.

    I really do feel it for your Guru Ali Sina. Someone has beaten him at his own game and has just snatched that glory he so so craved, right under his nose.

    What now?
    :D

  213. By the way Ali Sina, someone has already beaten you to the movie. Sam Bacile. He's actually produced a movie and is an American citizen who said he produced, directed and wrote the two-hour film. The movie depicts Mohammad as a fraud, a womanizer and a madman in an overtly ridiculing way, showing him having sex and calling for massacres.

    His plan is to make a series of 200 hours about the same subject.

    That being the case, and according to your logic, we should now start seeing the demise of Islam, shouldn't we? Plus this movie should start the debate rolling and Muslims leaving Islam in droves.

    I really do feel it for you Ali Sina. Someone beat you at your own game and has just snatched that glory you so craved, right under your nose.

    What now?

  214. Exactly.

    I am backtracking.

    With you as the bogie and I as the engine, I had moved on further. But there is a danger you may delink, and it will be I going all the way.

    So backtracking and going back to whatever excess distance I had covered without you.

    Now you become the engine and lead. I will become the bogie.

  215. The word we are looking for is 'infatuation'.

    Julian the tranny is infatuated by Islam.

  216. The pot calling the kettle black is it Julian?

    And you mentioning Jinns, when you don't even believe in their existence?

    What's next?

    You gonna start calling yourself a Muslim despite not believing in Islam?

    Julia the Muslim!

    Welcome to the deen BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :D :D:D:D

  217. Backtracking again are we Raj?

    Never mind. You're not the first and definitely won't be the last.

    At least I'm progressing, you seem to be regressing.
    ;)

  218. If bad (Ali) becomes better. Better (Raj) turns best on this site.

    The moment I see you denouncing Mohammad I will leave Ali Sina. You have to spit upon Mohammad along the lines you had agreed.

    I do not have faith in Muslims and so you have to denounce your Mohammad first. I will follow suit.

    But I can safely bet that you are not yet ready to leave Mohammad and Islam and Allah.

    You have already said that Mohammad is mad, that Islam is an evil cult. I see progress happening.

  219. Time for your medication Julian.

    You're starting to dribble stupidity again.

    Bernoulli Trial and you? LLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

    P@@ssing myself laughing on the floor rolling with tears rolling down my eyes.

    Bernoulli Trial and Juian? LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

    You can't even spell it let alone understand it!!!

    What a fking retarded dimwit.

  220. I've already answered you Alif Lam Mim question Julian. Not our fault it's way above your head.

    Now go and make some tea, chai waala and leave the big stuff to us adult intellectuals.

  221. But Iblees doesn't exist according to you Julian?

    Oh dear………………………….stuck again are we?

    Stick to making the tea, tea boy aka chai waala.

  222. Of course you would say that Julian.

    You're not the brightest of spark are you?

    Stick to learning the alphabet. You've got more chance of that than understanding 1 of 2!

    I would say loser, but you got nothing, trailer trash…….I mean rickshaw trash!

    Stuttering again, are we crack-head!

  223. It is a strong sign of insanity (possession by an evil JINN ) to think you did things which you not really did . You did NOT prove anything.
    Your evil fake prophet Mohammed suffered if the same disease.
    Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 53, Number 400, for example:
    " Narrated Aisha: Once the Prophet was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done. "
    There are more ahadith like this, I only took a short one .YOU CAN FIND THEM HERE ( and elsewhere): http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=

  224. Yep Julian, I am a crack dealer. I deal my foot up people like you's cracks!
    :)

    Trying to work it out are we, retard?

  225. Even if he is an evil shia, he is still better than you Julian!

    You dress like a woman, march like a man, talk like a child, shave like a bloke and are a Tranny!!!!!! GOTCHA!!!!!
    ;)

  226. Dear of dear oh dear.

    My dear Julia

    My dear Julia

    My dear Julia

    You best look in the mirror. You will see the real nightmare!:D

  227. That's because the superglue fell onto his cap locks and he can't afford a new keyboard.

  228. You keep visiting this site, you'll turn more evil Raj!

    People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

    Since you have brought it up, where is the public denunciation of Swami Sina as agreed?

  229. I AM REALLY SORRY, ALIEN !!
    BUT LOKI IS RIGHT !!
    YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND PROBABILTY .
    I KNOW ALSO THAT THIS MAKES YOU ANGRY, BUT IT IS THE SIMPLE TRUTH.
    I GUESS THIS KIND OF LOGICAL THINKING IS NOT FOR MUSLIMS. OTHERWISE THEY WOULD NOT BE MUSLIMS OF COURSE !! HAHAHAHAHA ( this laughing hurts again, hey stupid?) !!
    MOW COME ON WITH YOUR CHILDISH AND PATHETIC ANSWER …YOU CAN'T LET GO, DON'T YOU !!!
    MY ADVISE: BLOW YOURSELF UP FOR ALLAH….THAT IS MORE YOU CUP OF TEA MUSLIM ( biggest insult i van think of ;-) ).
    OH..AS YOU SAY …GET OVER IT LOSER !!! ;-)

  230. Dear oh dear Julian. Didn't get the daily dose of medication today?

    My oh my, you are as thick as two planks of wood.

    Anyway, when are you being released?

  231. What I am saying sivaram is, you guys cannot do anything to Islam. Period.

    Keep dreaming.

  232. You been schagging your ammi jaan again denialisnoproof?

    Come on dude, don't be such a tyrant. At least give her one day off! With all she's done for you, the village, the punters, the swamis, the lezzies and the animals, she deserves a day off. How much kok do you think she can take day in and day out? Have you no heart kid?

  233. THIS WHOLE PROBABILITY
    "THING" WAS YOUR ODEA , STUPID !!!
    YOU THOUGH IT WAS A BIG DEAL !!
    BUT EVEN NOW AFTER UMPTEEN SIMPLE LESSONS IN PROBABILITY YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT BERNOUILLI TRIAL IS ALL ABOUT !
    YOU CAN COUNT FURTHER THEN 1,2 !!
    THAT IS YOUR MATH KNOWLEDGE!
    YOU MADE A FOOL OF YOURSELF AND OF YOUR BACKWARD AND EVIL CULT ( WHICH YOU ADMIT ) ISLAM !!
    THANKS AGAIN FOR THAT …YOU DO A GOOD JOB MAKING YOUR CULT LOOK FOOLISH , WHICH IT IS ! HAHAHA !!!(this hurts ,hey?). ;-)

  234. And we call the likes of you Julian, crack-heads!

    Did I not say, stay off the fking crack?

  235. Show us this proof of demons being capable of the numbers thing please sivaram.

    Show us where it has been done. Not some myth, but real and available to check and cross reference.

  236. Exactly where has this rebirth been verified please Sivaram?

    Please show us the evidence so that we may carry out our own due diligence.

  237. YOU talk much about crack , ALIEN.
    You are a dealer, aren't you ?
    ADMIT THIS TOO !!! ;-)
    Your evil fake prophet the mafioso Mohammed would have liked that for sure.

  238. Aha, Amin-RAT ….you look, dress and march like these "scholars" too!!! GOTCHA !!!! YOU ARE AN EVIL SHIA !!!

  239. AGAIN…ALI(EN)….YOU ARE !!!! HAHAHA !!!!!!!!!

  240. AGAIN…DON'T CALL ME DEAR YOU EVIL , DIRTY, FILTHY OLD MUSLIM !!!
    DON'T DO THAT !!
    YOU ARE WORSE THEN A HORROR-NIGHTMARE ! YOU CHILDF!CKER !!!! ;-)

  241. TO ALI(EN).
    "OK, yes, let's agree with you, we are an evil cult. Now what? "
    I AM VERY GLAD THAT YOU ADMIT THAT YOUR CULT ISLAM IS EVIL !
    WHY DID IT TAKE YOU SOOOO LONG, WHILE IT IS OBVIOUS !!
    GO AND TELL THIS TO YOUR MUSLIMBROTHERS !!! HAHAHA ;-)

  242. 25 shias killed in pakistan http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/opinionslogged
    Religion of piss is at work

  243. DON'T CALL ME DEAR …YOU EVIL MUSLIM. !!!
    WHEN A MUSLIM SAYS THIS TO ME I FEEL VERY INSULTED !
    "DIRTY OLD MAN….KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF !"
    YAGHHHH !!

  244. YOU ARE IBLEES…YOU ALIEN !!

  245. If you define the Barbarism( sorry it should have been called Arabbarism, Islamism, Mohammadism) of Quran as civilization, we are all enemies of your definition of
    civilization

  246. How can a vile, murderous, rapist, lusty bandit be the messenger
    of GOD ? After you free yourselves from the clutches of this monster
    only you can understand subtle truths of the God-ward path

  247. Yes. That is the truth. In the end all of us will have to die. why leave a trail of
    death & destruction behind us. why not live with peace, tranquility, love, kindness
    to all beings.
    Why should Mohammed have entertained hatred, lust, deception & violence ?
    Why are Muslims defending such a Rascal ? Get-rid off this Demon from your
    minds. That is the greatest service you could ever render to The True GOD.

  248. Reasoning is the most powerful tool to get at the Truth of any issue.
    Since Muslims are acutely deficient in reasoning ability, they are not
    at all powerful. Muslims today are surviving because of the Mercy shown
    by Non-Muslims. It is not your bravery or valor that is keeping you alive,
    but our Mercy. But Muslims think that kaffirs are deceived by Allah into treating Muslims with kindness when they have the upper-hand. Muslims have
    no bravery but exhibit the psychology of wolves.
    It is Quran which is dripping with hate and poison.

    Ali sina's job is the most productive, most meaningful, most merciful job.
    Detoxification of a billion odd brains is no mean job.
    when we are strong.

  249. God of all mankind – doesn't produce Quran.
    If your heart is longing for devotion to GOD, learn about the True attributes of GOD
    from the vedic & puranic lore. Leave your allegiance to a Mohammed which is nothing
    but assertion of your own lower-mind. Why not , for a change, show an iota of mercy
    on humanity at large, by erasing the Demonic concepts of KAFFIR & JIHAD. This iota of mercy will earn for you an ocean of Goodwill from the GOD who is the in dweller of all
    hearts.

  250. Muslims are born for the destruction of the world. They do not have a peacetime peaceful agenda.
    Like Mohammad, their minds are filled with sex , violence and unrighteousness. Pre-Islamic Arabs had some respect for other people's rights. Mohammad destroyed the Golden Rule ruling the hearts of Pre-Islamic Arabs and created Demons (who typically are self-righteous = unrighteous). The Psychology of De-monism (Narcissism=ISLAM) claiming to be Monism, has spread east and west alike from Arabia. The day will not be far-off when Islam will be thrashed all over the world. Meanwhile let us enlighten ourselves about the true (devilish) nature of Islam and be alert to the false slogans of psuedo-secularists.

  251. HERE COMES THE REAL MUSLIM .. !!
    Thank you DramaticEdem…for being honest….at last !

  252. HI ALIEN !!
    This Allah of yours is the same idol that was worshipped by the pagans together with 359 other IDOLS. The father of Mohammed (who was NOT a muslim) was called ABDALLAH ( Slave of Allah, REMEMBER ;-) )
    YOUR FAKE PROPLET ONLY KEPT THIS ONE AND ….OF COURSE THE BLACK STONE !!!
    The Kaaba is the house of Allah…the black stone dwells in the Kaaba, SO THIS BLACK STONE IS ALLAH,… what can it be else?. If is something else…then you muslims do shirk by kissing it and bowing down…SHIRK !!!! AND YOU WILL ALL GO TO YOUR MUSLIM HELL !!! WHERE YOU BELONG ANYWAY …HAHAHAHAHA !! (painful ;-) ) .
    But first therte will be "THE PUNISHMENT OF THE GRAVE" for you! BOOOOO…this gives you the creeps,…does it not ?
    Yep…this is all very rational.

  253. Hi…Alien !
    Silly and childish answer, muslim kid !
    WHY ARE YOU STILL AROUND? Are the oil-selling
    morons still paying you enough?
    BUT REMEMBER: Allah wants you to blow up yourself ! Yes he likes that most of all !
    So ,again, don't be a coward and don't be greedy…. go for it!!!
    You will be a muslim"martyr" forever ;
    By the way: we call your "martyrs" crazy ,brainwashed murderers !

  254. Islam has no rational basis. It is surviving because of fear ( of satanic Allah) and the magnanimity of Non-muslims who are treating Islam as just another religion. With the alert sounded by Ali sina, the world will soon recognize Islam as a cancer of Humanity. This cancer should be removed at the earliest so that Humankind may survive.

  255. kaba is a house of whores very mohammads mother was enjoying orgy to earn her likelihood
    Ask your mo to take off his 53 year old coc from 9 year old girl's vagina

  256. Amin riadh it must be very nice of you to be born out of mutah marriage

  257. Once there was a Robber who denied his role in a Robbery.
    When the people of the locality proved his guilt conclusively,
    he thundered – So What? What can you do to me?
    You still are not strong enough to punish me.
    That is what this Ali is saying

  258. Demons too are capable of coming up with the number-wonders you have so painstakingly unearthed in QURAN, Mr.Ali. 1. Declaring unprovoked war on innocents is a sure sign of Mohammad's satanic mind

  259. "Your sarcasm carries a wider meaning, which backfires on Muslims and Islam. "

    One day Raj . . . you might begin to make sense . . . in the meantime good luck and keep trying.

  260. Could you please ignore "Julia" – whose only purpose – appears to be to troll.

    You encourage this person . . . just ignore her/him. There is no need to answer such people.

    ESPECIALLY since Sina banned him. And probably has lifted the ban for this EXACT reason.

    So why rise to the bait?

    [I get the feeling its a him. ]

    - – -

  261. You are nothing more than common cowardly troll.

    You were supposedly banned . . . all you do is abuse people with cap locks!

    - – -

    Dear . . . you don't have the capability – just trade insults with Ali.

  262. "SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT ONLY MUSLIMS AND EVEN ALLAH CAN SWEAR !! MOHAMMED DID MUBAHILA ! "

    This is another common trait of "trolls" . .. diversion. Also it is logically fallacious – to conclude what isn't within an argument to deduce.

    "1) I PROVED ( YOU ASKED FOR IT) THAT ISLAM IS SATANIC !"

    I asked for no such thing . . . your repertoire isn't limited to swearing and verbally abusing.

    - – -

    Keep spouting nonsense dear. . . that is all that you do.

  263. rebirth is already verified in thousands of cases. This fact applies equally to all irrespective of your belief. Even a Muslim with no belief in rebirth will be ( have been ) born again

  264. ali the psycho mullah

  265. Is your sister halal for me?

  266. :D
    Ali you little horny biatch

  267. I won't tell my friends name because it is not going to add to the argument .
    "I must commend you, you don't half come out with it."
    I didn't get this

  268. "And you know what part hurts you the most, Islam is a Religion without a mythology. Its teachings are simple and rational. Its appeal is to human reason and conscience."
    MAN, ALI(EN)….YOU HAVE REALYY LOST ALL SENSE OF
    RATIONALLITY.
    Some examples if islamic rationallity.There are many, many more, but you know that ver well. You just keep on going with your childish babbling.
    1) you muslims believe that your fake prophet made a trip , on a flying donkey with the face of a woman to the 7(!) heavens. ;-)
    2) you muslims believe theat your insane camel Mohammed split the moon. ;-)
    3) you stupid muslims believe in Jinns, made of fire . ;-)
    4)you muslims believe that Salomon spoke with ants ;-)
    5) you muslims believe in "the punishment of the frave" ;-)
    6) you muslims believe that the black stone is something "special". ;-)
    DO YOU WANT MORE? HAHAHA !! ( hurting hey ?)
    BLOW YOURSELF UP MAN, and go to your "rational" islamic whorehouse somewhere(?) above . YOU MADE YOURSELF THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THIS SITE ! PATHETIC FOOLISH KID ;-)

  269. // Which is as secular as Pakistan. Your lies get wilder and wilder. //

    Your sarcasm carries a wider meaning, which backfires on Muslims and Islam.

  270. Ali – I see progress in you.

    The other day, you agreed Mohammad was mad.

    Today you agree Islam is an evil cult.

    Keep visiting thing this site.

    You may change for the better.

  271. @ Ali the muslim –

    // If I want to only accept a 1 of 2 position, then that is my choice and my risk. //

    Exactly.

    Now non Muslims – make their choices and take their risks in a similar way. If they choose they can worship idols. If they choose they can be atheists. If they wish, they can be polytheists.

    But the problem arises when Muslims adamantly come and place Quran in our laps. When they come threateningly with the sword. If, we non Muslims make some choices — either logical or illogical that is immaterial — then the Muslims do not allow us to live peacefully. That is the whole point of this website and countless others who have been fighting Islam.

    Leave the world alone, and no one will ask what the Muslims are doing.

    Ever since Islamic lie was founded by Mohammad and imposed upon people — by his jihad — from that day on, the world has become a living hell for the non muslims. To support Islamic lie, swords are drawn out by the muslims.

    This site lists out the attacks by jihadic islamic lies.

    historyofjihad.org

  272. ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌
    Tuesday 11 September 2012, 2:27 am

    Habits die hard she/he can't sleep even without thinking Muslims!

  273. But that's not your concern or problem, is it Julian?

    If I want to only accept a 1 of 2 position, then that is my choice and my risk. If I walk into a bookies and place a bet on a horse that loses, that is my choice and my loss. If I place a bet on a winner, then again that is my choice and my gain.

    It's all about choices that we make and are responsible for.

    You guys that follow Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism, Atheism or any ism for that matter, don't make any sense to Muslims, whilst on the same token, those that follow Islam make no sense to you guys. It's a very simple formula.

    It works both ways.

    Get over it.

    If I decide to drive my car at 200mph, than that is my choice. If I die doing it, then again, that is my choice and my decision for driving at 200mph so must accept the consequences. Everyone who makes their beds and lie in it, must accept this.

    Do I honestly care what you guys do with your lives or what you believe? Never.

    I have my own life and responsibilities.

    This here for me is what you Indians would call 'time pass'.

    A few more days and I'll be on a plane getting on with my life doing what I do best. Making money!

  274. Show what Julian?

    Just like your Guru Ali Sina, hey?

    How long have you been doing this anti Islamic tripe?

    OK, yes, let's agree with you, we are an evil cult. Now what?

    Stuttering for an answer are we?

  275. God God God God = Allah Allah Allah Allah.

    Get over it Ramcharanteeshwarandhanghan aka Rafiq.
    :D

  276. Typical Indian v Pakistan tripe.

    Thank God you retards are far away from us. Stay in that part of the world.

    You still reminiscing about 1947 and 1948. What a dimwit!

  277. Which part of Delhi you from Rafiq aka Raghudandran.

    Africa. LOL.

    Talk about desperation.

    Be proud of who you are. Don't be ashamed. I know it sucks being you, but you have plenty compatriots who are the same as you. Dik worshipping Hindus.

  278. What's wrong dik worshipper denialisnoproof? Couldn't get to do your ammi jaan, thus the frustration?

    Never mind, you got your sis and abba ji as back up.

    The only thing you can burn is your gods when you are schitting the chillies out your a@@ and your back side is burning after a hot curry and your gods are coming out Uranus!

    Teri maa di you know what!
    ;)

  279. Obviously touched a sore nerve hey, denialisnoproof?

    You bragging about your 2mm dik again? OK get your tweezers and magnifying glass out, so you can actually see it.

    When you are so stupid and dumb and ask such retarded questions, the Truth is always going to hurt you.

    And no, a parable is not a paragraph, in case you get it twisted.

    You're so fking thick, you cook your own complimentary breakfast.

  280. Julian mate, No matter what you say, you will always be a dude and you will never understand 1 of 2.

    This is your reality.

    Accept it and move on. Honestly, it's no big deal.

  281. Stifle you Julian?

    Why would aminriadh do that, when you are doing a pretty good job yourself on yourself?

    I'm surprised you can even put 2 sentences together.

    Listening to you is ground hog day for everyone!

  282. Time for your medication again Julian. It usually wears off after 6 hours.

    And no, we Muslims are genius's compared to you as already proven. You so dumb, you get hit by a parked car!

    How many times do you need the same answers to understand the answer?

  283. So reading is not your strong point then is it Julian?

    How many times do you want the answer? English not good enough for you?

    I suggest you back track to one of the posts where you like a parrot repeated the same and got your answer.

    Surely you can at least do that.

  284. SO THERE IS IRRATIONALLITY BUT NO RATIONALITY ACCORDING TO YOU ( MUSLIMS ) .
    NOW THÁT IS WHAT I CALL IRRATIONAL !!! HAHAHA !!!!
    READ YOUR COMMENT AGAIN …AND BE ASHAMED !

  285. NICE TRY !!! ALIEN
    BUT MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE BLACK STONE !
    THAT WAS AN IDOL BEFORE MOHAMMED LIVED. AND IT STILL IS THERE….THE SAME STONE IDOL. ;-)
    YOUR FAKE PROPHET BOWED DOWN,PRAYED AMD KISSED IT LIKE THE OTHER PAGANS . HE WAS A PAGAN YOU TILL HE WAS 40 YEARS OLD….YOU KNOW THAT. MOHAMMED DESTROYED ALL THE IDOLS EXCEPT THIS BLACK STONE IDOL !!!
    THAT IS THE POINT !!

  286. OH, AMIN-RAT…AND MY ONLY PURPOSE IS :
    TO SHOW THAT ISLAM IS AN EVIL AND BACKWARD CULT !
    THAT IS ALSO THE PURPOSE OF THIS SITE , METHINKS.
    IF YOU HATE UNCIVILISED SPEACH THEN SHOULD FIGHT YOUR OWN HATEPREACHING MUSLIM CLERICS ALL OVER THE INTERNET !! FOR EXAMPLE LOOK HERE: http://www.memritv.org/content/en/all_clips.htm/
    GROW UP KID….YOU ARE FIGHTING IN THE WAY OF ALLAH ! HAHAHA ;-)

  287. SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT ONLY MUSLIMS AND EVEN ALLAH CAN SWEAR !! MOHAMMED DID MUBAHILA !
    YOU SAY I AM A TROLL, ALLAH SAYS THAT I BELONG TO THE VILEST OF CEATURES (SURAH 8:55 ) AND MUCH MORE. ALI CALLS EVERY NON-MUSLIM THE MUST EVIL NAMES (DUNG SNIFFER …) ETC.
    LISTEN AMINRIADH : I ASKED YOU VERY SERIOUS QESTION"S:
    1) I PROVED ( YOU ASKED FOR IT) THAT ISLAM IS SATANIC !
    2) I ASLED YOU WHAT THE CRAZY LETTERS ALIF,LAM.NEEMN,SAAT…ETC. MEAN .
    NOW ANSWER !!! SLAVE OF ALLAH ( THIS HOW YOU MUSLIMS CALL YOURSELF ) ;-)
    Sorry for using big letters, its a habit of mine !!

  288. THE EVIL MUSLIM "SCHOLAR" ARMINRIADH WANTS TO STIFLE ME….OF COURSE !
    THAT IS WHAT MUSLIMS ALWAYS DO ( ALLOVER THE WORLD) …IF THEY HAVE NO ARGUMENTS ANYMORE . THEY START WHYNING !!_EVERYBODY SEES WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO!! AND IT IS PATHETIC !!!!!

  289. You are a troll . . . and all you are interested in is swearing and abusing. . .

    You are not ONE bit interested in a civil conversation . . . hence you were allegedly banned.

    No sane or rational person swears the way you do . . . it just that you are anonymous – hence the cowardly behaviour.

    - – -

    It is already pretty apparent – you do not have anything to say . . .

  290. I LIKE IT VERY MUCH TO SEE THESE BRAINWASHED MUSLIMS SUFFERING !
    HEY…ALI(EN) …YOU CAN NOT ANSWER MY QUESTIONS, WHICH ARE VERY CLEAR, WIT-
    HOUT USING LIES AND MIRACLE MUMBO-JUMBO !!
    TRY IT !!!
    1) ISLAM IS SATANIC!! ( SEE MY PROOF ABOVE ) , I DON'T REPEAT IT ;-)
    2) WHAT DO THE CRAZY LETTERS ALIF, LAM, ETC. REALY MEAN !
    I HAVE ALREADY FIRED AWAY !! ARE YOU BLIND !! READ …MAN, IQRAH …OR CAN'T YOU READ ( LIKE YOUR INSANE CAMEL) . OR ARE YOU SEARCHING THE INTERNET ? HAHHAHA !!!!!( AGAIN) . DO YOU NEED MORE TIME ? HIHIHIH !!! YOU SCHOLARS ON THE INTERNET AND WHERE EVER DON'T ALSO NOT KNOW THE ANSWERS ! GET OVER IT ,
    ADMIT IT…YOUR EVIL CULT ISLAM IS ROTTEN AND STINKS. YOU ARE A LOSER !!

  291. Endowed with the faculty of reason and having sound judgement. There you go denialisnoproof. You have your answer concerning rationality.

    And you know what part hurts you the most, Islam is a Religion without a mythology. Its teachings are simple and rational. Its appeal is to human reason and conscience.

    The famous Italian Orientalist, Dr. Laura Veccia Vaglieri, writes the following about the rational and universal spirit of Islam in her book An Interpretation 0f Islam:

    "The Arabian Prophet, with a voice which was inspired by a deep communion with his Marker, preached the purest monotheism to the worshippers of fetish and the followers of a corrupted Christianity and Judaism. He put himself in open conflict with those regressive tendencies of mankind which lead to the association of other beings with the Creator."

    "ln order to lead men to a belief in one God, he did not delude them with happenings which deviate from the normal course of nature — the so-called miracles; nor did he compel them to keep quiet by using celestial threats which only undermine man's ability to think. Rather, he
    simply invited them, without asking them to leave the realm of reality, to consider the universe and its laws. Being confident of the resultant belief in the one and indispensable God, he simply let men read in the book of life. Muhammad Abduh and Ameer All both state that Muhammad was content to appeal to the intimate conscience of the individual and to the intuitive judgement of man."

  292. ALI(EN) SAID:
    "For Muslims, there are only 2 possibilities. There is or there isn't."
    BUT LOGIC AND MATHEMATICS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION !
    BACKWARD AND BRAINWASHED CRETIN. HAHAHA ..sorry !
    THAT IS EXACTLY THE POINT WE ARE MAKING !!
    LOGICALLY THERE ARE MANY POSSIBILITIES. YEP!
    GET OVER IT, IF YOU CAN'T GET IT !

  293. NO…ALI(EN) !
    YOU DON'T KNOW WHETER THERE IS ONE GOD, NO GOD, UMPTEEN GODS !!!
    YOU AND NO ONE KNOWS! THAT IS YOUR PREJUDICE AGAIN !!! IR RATHER YOUR BRAINWASHING !!!
    OTHERWISE: PROVE IT !!!
    YOU CAN NOT ESCAPE !!
    THIS CAN NOT BE TO DEEP FOR A "SCHOLAR" AND MATHEMATICIAN LIKE YOU ! ;-)
    SORRY BUT I HAVE TO LAUGH…YOU ARE SOOOO STUPIS AND BACKWARD !!!
    HAHAHAHAHAHA (PAINFUL HEY.ALIEN, FOR THE BEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD !!!!!)

  294. I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE WHAR I SAY TO YOU . YOU ARE ASHAMED ! AND YOU SHOULD BE !!!
    YOU GAVE NO LOGICAL ANSWER …CERTAINLY NOT A SCHOLAR (?) WORTHY !.
    ESCAPING IS NOT ANSWERING !!
    AND WHAT ABOUT MY ALIF-LAM-MEEM QUESTION ?? WHERE IS THE ANSWER ?
    AND ABOUT MY PROOF THAT ISLAM IS SATANIC !! I ONLY USED YOUR BELOVED "NOBLE" QURAN !!!
    COME ON ….HMMMM SCHOLAR !!!! ;-)

  295. You are a gluten for punishment aren't you Julian?

    Exactly what trouncing do you want me to give you now? I told you in one split second I will give you the answer on Alif Lam Mim, which you are still trying to digest and are stuttering in your speach.

    Now what do you want to learn? Go on, fire away.

  296. The only purpose of this individual is to abuse . . . nothing else.

    There are similar answers left all over these comments sections.

    - – -

    Sina of course – claimed he banned him/her . . . but hasn't – as this person provides one good function . . . to verbally abuse people. Something He himself resorted to . . .

    That is to – swear at anyone who is apparently a Muslim.

    - – - –

    A mistake to reply obviously . . . mostly I don't. But the above was to clarify. . .

  297. HI ALI(EN)!
    DON'T FORGET ALSO TO ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT THE STRANGE LETTERS IN THE QURAN :
    ALIF,LAM, MEEM; ALIF,LAM,MEEM; ALIF,LAM,MEEM,SAD; ALIF,LAM,RA ; ALIF,LAM,RA; ALIF,LAM ,RA ; ALIF,LAM,MEEM,RA ; ALIF, LAM,RA ; ALIF,LAM,RA ; KAF, HA, YA, 'AYN, SAD;
    TA,HA ; TA,SEEN,NEEM ; TA,SEEN ; TA,SEEN,MEEM ; ALIF,LAM,MEEM ; ALIF,LAM,MEEM;
    ALIF,LAM,MEEM; ALIF,LAM,MEEM; YA,SEEN ; SAD ; HA, MEEM ; HA,MEEM ; HA,MEEM,AYN,SEEN,QAF; HA,MEEM ; HA,MEEM ; HA,MEEM ; HA,MEEM ; QAF ; NUN ;
    YOU KNOW THEM, OF COURSE…AND THERE ARE MANY, SO THEY MUST BE IMPORTANT TO ALLAH AND MOHAMMED !!
    WHAT IS THEIR MEANING ???
    PLEASE NO NONSENSICAL ANSWERS LIKE : THEY ARE A MIRACLE OF ALLAH , OR THEY ARE BEATIFUL, OR ONLY ALLAH KNOWS…OR CHEAP COPY/PASTING . THAT IS CHILDISH AND RIDICULOUS. MANY TIMES THE LETTERS ARE FOLLOWED BY ALLAH SAYING THAT HIS BOOK IS CLEAR ETC. SO,AGAIN, THEIR MEANING MUST IMPORTANT AND LOGICAL , GOD IS NOT STUPID !!!!!!
    TAKE YOUR TIME … ;-) YES…TAKE YOUR TIME…YOU WILL NEED IT !

  298. You are wrong!

    For all educated humans – all the possibilities are on the menu – out of which Muslim like you take two flavours in your plate and one only to eat. That does not mean that there are no other possibilities.

    Your bias makes the other items on the menu card useless for you – but that does not mean that those items are not at all there.

    Since you are hedging your bets, I would say the way you are doing is unscientific.

    Now suppose just suppose, Allah is there, but not the one true God, but as Satan, — and if actually this statement is true —

    in this event how does flipping the coin help?

    Have you factored in this possibility?

    If not, then the respect I had for all your arguments which tended to be logical falls to the ground.

  299. I suggest you read my reply about the Kaaba and it's significance as being the House of God, Julian. I have already answered your last ditch attempt to another fool in another post. The Kaaba is the House of God and not an Idol dimwit, so facing the House of the Lord cannot be idol worship as God Himself has given these instructions, just like he did to Abraham. Or are you also saying Abraham was also an idol worshipper by doing the same? Which means Jews and Christians are also idol worshippers? Please.

    What else do you have to clutch onto…………………….nothing?

    So we will start from the beginning again where you will say the same old tripe and get the same old answers and you will keep repeating this until you die after which you will be cremated and then the real punishment and life for you unbelievers will start.

    Anything else you want to say?

  300. There is no such thing as 'rationality' – according to Muslims. . . I have pointed out your fallacious arguments and lies – at appropriate points.

    - – -

    For example simply leaving small comments that are hate-filled, full of lies and insults . . . is irrational.

  301. Which part of Africa? And are you – yourself African or not?

  302. "We effed pakistan in 1971 and created a secular nation called bangladesh . "

    Which is as secular as Pakistan. Your lies get wilder and wilder.

  303. That's your prerogative Raj, whether you want to hedge bets or not.

    For Muslims, there are only 2 possibilities. There is or there isn't.

    There is no such system without a God, which will pay back what you have done to others. The system of Darwinism, which is all about natural selection with no God/ Deity, is the system the likes of Ali Sina promotes. If there is no God, we have absolutely nothing to worry about when we die. Period

    So, from a Muslim point of view versus Atheism, we have nothing to lose and everything to gain with a 50/50 chance of their being a God or no God.

    This was the jist of my hedging my bets with a 50% advantage all the time, every-time. You Hindus will have a different take as you guys believe in reincarnation so the probability of sequences will creep in, but for Muslims, we only die once, after which we will know whether Darwin was right or God was right.

    So it is like just one flip of the coin. Heads or Tails and not sequences. We only get one crack at the whip to find out.

  304. OH,ALI(EN)…AND PLEASE NO SILLY EXCUSES AGAIN LIKE:
    THE TRANSLATION IS NOT CORRECT…OR….YOU MUST READ IN ARABIC …HMMM….CLASICAL ARABIC…AND SO ON AND ON…. HAHAHA . YOU YOURSELF KNOW THESE STUPID EXCUSES IF COURSE VERY WELL …;-) ;-) ;-)
    COME ON….BE HONEST AGAIN, LIKE YOU ADMITTING YOUR PREJUDICE AGAINST US NON-MUSLIMS !!!

  305. THANK YOU ALI(EN) ! ;-)
    BUT WHAT ABOUT MY PROOF THAT ISLAM IS SATANIC !!!??????????
    A "SCHOLAR" LIKE YOU …;-) (or perhaps AMIN-RAT…;-) ) SHOULD KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THIS ONE !!! HAHAHA !
    I'M SURE YOU CAN NOT ! BECAUSE I USE YOUR OWN QURAN. !
    BUT SOME TAQIYYA MUSLIM WILL SURELY COME WITH SOME SILLY DRIVEL … NAME CALLING…TU QUOQUES….AD HOMINEMS…ETC.
    WE KNOW THAT !! BUT LOGICALLY YOU CAN NOT REFUTE IT !!! ;-) ;-) ;-)

  306. HMMM…THE BLACK STONE IS VERY TANGIBLE , DON'T YOU THINK ?
    But you are ashamed ! THIS IDOL WAS ALREADY IN THE KAABA BEFORE the year 622 . THE PAGANS USED TO WORSHIP IT , AND OF COURSE YOUR EVIL FAKE PROPHET TOO !!!You know that of course ;-) AND THE MUSLIMS STILL DO IT ! AGAIN : IT IS AN IDOL !!
    THE BIGGEST SIN A MUSLIM CAN DO…SHIRK. WORSHIPPING SOMEONE (THING) ELSE BESIDES ALLAH !
    AND YOU SAY : "IS THAT ALL JULIA ? "
    YOU ARE A TAQIYYA "SPECIALIST",ALI(BABA) , BUT A VERY STUPID ONE !

  307. Nobody knows your or your evil muslimbrothers either !
    Nobody is interested !
    We are fighting Islam !!!
    THIS BACKWARD DOCTRINE !

  308. Alif Lam Mim means only one thing
    MUSLIMS ARE FOOLS.

  309. TAK BEER ?
    CHEERS !! ALI .
    I am surprised….i thought you muslims do not drink alclhol.
    TAK BEER !!!!!! ;-)
    RIDICULOUS KID … blow up yourself you coward…for allah !

  310. ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌
    Monday 10 September 2012, 5:50 pm

    I know you can't sleep without thinking Muslims. We experience those vibes alas ! you are so old !

  311. Why go to the trouble of asking everyone Julian?

    I'll tell you in a split second what they mean.

    We cannot ascribe any particular meaning to these letters. Any particular meaning that these letters might have is known only to God. There you go dimwit.

    But, these letters serve to highlight the literary nature of the Quran, which you will never understand.

    And just before you make your predictable comment of the Quran thus has meaningless words, the meaning here is that the discourse is starting, so it is known that a new chapter is beginning and the previous one has ended. It serves to distinguish between speech acts. This is something known in the speech of the Arabs.

    Introducing a speech with disjoined letters as a stylistic means for beginning an eloquent discourse was not strange to the people at the time that the Quran was revealed. This is why the unbelievers in Mecca never made an issue out of these letters, though they would go to great pains to find whatever they could to criticize Islam.

    So, you Julian, can keep speculating until the cows come home.

    Oh… I do love it when I hammer the Hindus.

  312. I will say this once and once only to you Julian.

    Stay off the crack!

  313. CHILDISH REPLY !

  314. Ali both your possibilities are wrong!

    Use you head to find out other possibilities/options. You may want to make your bets more safe.

    One possibility you forgot to factor in:- A true God is there, but Allah is the Devil/Satan.

    Yet another possibility may be – there is a system in place – but not controlled or determined by a God. But this system pays you back, the same way you have done to others.

    Now rework your calculations further with two of these possibilities. There may be other possibilities which cannot be ruled out.

    But for start, you can work with the two options I suggested.

    If asked my opinion, unlike you, I do not see here any possibility. I see one and only one possibility here. I would not hedge my bets like you.

  315. We effed pakistan in 1971 and created a secular nation called bangladesh .
    next target is balochistan

  316. ali the chosen "sl@t" who will get to be f_ked by vigin donkeys :D

  317. For muzzies peace means surrendering his brain to a pimp god allah and insulting means getting spit at by entire mankind
    allah is a lousy biatch

  318. sealed my heart ? but my heart is pumping blood normally.
    parable ? Ask your allah to suck my kock .
    Idiotic mullahs when confronted with rationality will bark these words .muzzies are enemies of civilization.
    ask your allah to send some virgins to me . Madam allah :D
    c_u_n_t is the big vagina in kaba which is licked by millions of muzzies

  319. I did say you was stupid, didn't I Julian? It's right in front of your face but you still refuse to see it.

    I will ask again:

    Now say, if we agree that the term is deceive and deciever, not scheme, then what?

    Do you understand the following sentence retard? 'They deceived the enemy by disguising the destroyer as a freighter'.

    Does this mean they are liars for fooling the enemy, or smarter for fooling the enemy?

    Take your time.

  320. When you die, there are only 2 possibilities numb-nuts. Either there is a God and He will decide your fate or there is no God, so no worries, no fate.

    1 of 2. Just like a coin toss, once. Not twenty times, but once.

    A bit too deep for Julian. Stick to the HAHAHAHAHAHA lines.

  321. You're Welcome Julian!

  322. Get your rupees out you retard. How else do you think the piece of schit is going to be made? He needs another 8 million USD in order to make it, so start begging for the money denialisnoproof.

    Go on, do the whipround and start fund raising. You should be able to complete it in 2350!

  323. Kid yourself not Julian!

    You are a dude living in India period. You can stand on top of the mountain and shout to your hearts content, but you will always be a man unless, you go for the s-e-x change. And we all know you cannot afford that coming from the bottom of the barrel village.

    If you was smarter than me in any, way, shape or form, I'd become a Hindu like you and start worshipping Iphone 5 when it is released. And we all know the answer to that, don't we, Julius?

    Stick to the ranting and raving Julian, as one day, you may just work out why you yell into an envelope and claim to be sending a voice mail!
    ;)

  324. "I'd take the curses from you common folk any-time hand down." How old is your brain ? it must be really really damaged !

    And please don't you ever replace Allah with God whenever you quote verses from the satanic Quran !

  325. You must have assumed that i am indian, i am not, i'm from Africa !

    However "cow worship" is still better than corpse worship ! Allah died 1400 years ago. Maybe if i worship a cow it may give me good milk a delicious meat or other healthy cows, what can you possibly get from a dead psychopath ?

  326. Comprehension was never something you grasped denialisnoproof, thus your mind boggling level of stupidity.

    It means God has sealed your heart, hearing and sight, and you could neither see the guidance nor hear, comprehend or understand it. In other words, you are void of wisdom.

    It's a PARABLE you thick k-uu–nn–tt.

  327. Touching a sore nerve am I, Julian?

    Don't worry, I'm not even taking you seriously due to your stupidity. I'm just humiliating you at will.

    Your intellect level is so defunct, it took you 2 hours to watch 60 minutes!

    And you got the nerve to question the 'chosen ones'. Is it our fault, you decided to worship cow dung?

  328. You got as much chance of destroying Islam as you have of personally living on Mars within the next 30 days Julian. NEVER!

    Drea-ea-ea-ea-eam, dream, dream, dream
    Drea-ea-ea-ea-eam, dream, dream, dream

  329. Enemies of Civilization ?
    If your way of civilization includes killing maiming raping and destruction then yes we are barbarians.

    In 14th century there was a university of nalanda which khilji attacked and burnt . You know the recorded time took for burning all the books was 6 months.
    today if we pile up all the muslims and burn you . you wont even burn for 3 days . Fuking cousin f_ckers

  330. :p Your god says that we are dumb ,deaf and blind.
    If I was blind how could I type this message?
    May be some one is paying you or you have taken virgins in heaven very seriously :D
    Enjoy
    Why did allah ask noah to build the arc?

  331. OH…ALI DID YOU THINK LONG ENOUGH NOW ABOUT MY QUESTION CONCERNING THE STRANGE LETTERS IN SURAH
    2:1 ETC.
    ALIF,LAM MIM.
    OH …THIS IS OF COURSE NOT A MIRACLE OF ALLAH. I THINK EVEN YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT….DO YOU ??? HAHAHA !! ;-)

  332. YEP,AL ,I AM A WOMAN !!! AND I AM SMARTER THEN YOU ;-) sorry!
    AND THAT MUST HURT YOU, BEING A "PROUD" but stupid MUSLIM !!
    AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION :
    I'M NOT AN INDIAN, NOR A HINDU,NOR A BUDIST !! THE WORLD IS MUCH BIGGER THEN YOU THINK WITH YOUR BRAINWASHED LITTLE BRAIN !!
    I AM A FREETHINKER ! I DON'T NEED SOME BACKWARD IMAM TO TELL WHAT TO THINK OR WHAT TO BELIEVE !!!
    BUT YOU CAN NOT EVEN IMAGINE SUCH FREEDOM, BECAUSE YOU STILL LIVE IN THE 7th CENTURY WITH YOUR INSANE CAMEL ,YOUR PERFECT ROLE-MODEL, THE FAKE PROPHET MOHAMMED !!!
    GROW UP , MAN…LOOK AROUND IN THE WORLD….EDUCATE YOURSELF !! THIS IS 21th CENTURY !!!! ;-)

  333. ALI (BABA) SAID :
    "If our God does not exist, then why are you 'getting your knickers in a twist' about Islam, Julian? "
    THIS ALSO VERY SIMPLE , INBRED CRETIN !
    YOUR EVIL CULT ISLAM (STILL) EXIST !!! AND THÁT IS OUR PROBLEM !
    WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH ( NON-EXSTING ) GODS !!!!
    IT IS THE BACKWARD DOCTRINE OF ISLAM WE ARE FIGHTING AGAINST !!
    I don't care if you believe in a stone, a rat, or whatever ! But Islam wants to take away our freedom, our dignity and even our lives. AND OF COURSE WE DON'T WANT THAT ! AND THAT IS WHY WE WILL DESTROY THIS EVIL CULT !! WHETER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT !!!! ;-)

  334. EVERYBODY ELSE UNDERSATANDS WHAT I SAY HERE,
    ONLY YOU DON'T !!!
    AND WHAT IS THE POINT I'M MAKING TIGHT NOW ALI (BABA) ?
    TAKE YOUR TIME, AS YOUR ALWAYS SAY !! HAHAHA!
    YOU ARE PATHETIC AND RIDICULOUS , BUT YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB FOR US…SO PLEASE STAY AS LONG AS YOU CAN !!
    Your muslimbrothers (and your fake god allah) however will not like your stupid behaviour !!! ;-)
    They will be very ashamed …and they should be ;-)

  335. SOME MUSLIMS ARE CLEAN AT THE OUTSTDE !!!
    This is what Jesus said about you: (bible Matt .23:27-28)
    “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness."

  336. THE BRAINWASHED PARANOID MUSLIM ALI SAID:
    " And I openly admit it.
    Even God Himself has cursed you f–ckers! So my prejudice towards you enemies of civilizations is mild in comparison. "
    1) Thank you for agreeing , at last, that you and your cult Islam are evil !!
    2) Who is this "god"of yours ? Prove his/her/its existence !!!! YOU CAN NOT , EVIL BASTARD !!

  337. THE BRAINWASHED PARANOID MUSLIM ALI SAID:
    " And I openly admit it.

    Even God Himself has cursed you f–ckers! So my prejudice towards you enemies of civilizations is mild in comparison. "
    1) Thank you for agreeing , at last, that you and your cult Islam are evil !!
    2) Who is this "god"of yours ? Prove his/her/its existence !!!! YOU CAN NOT , EVIL BASTARD !!

  338. EUROPE…..A RACE ?
    YOUR HATE HAS MADE YOU MAD ….AMIN-RAT !!!

  339. ARGUMENTUM AD NUMERUM FALLACY !!! VEERY STUPID OF YOU AGAIN, MUSLIM (BIGGEST INSULT POSSIBLE !) ALI-BABA!! ;-)

  340. And I openly admit it.

    Even God Himself has cursed you f–ckers! So my prejudice towards you enemies of civilizations is mild in comparison.

  341. And what was this friends name denialisnoproof?

    E.T. by any chance!

    I must commend you, you don't half come out with it.

  342. And your point is ????? Julian?

  343. @Julia
    ________Considered that God is called Merciful over 300 times______
    Qurani Allah is exact opposite of this. How can be a God merciful who will punish the people till eternity. All the philosopher, scantiest, social activist who are/were/will non-believer in Mohammed will be punished severally in hell by Allah.
    ___Quran 1.1 : "(I begin this book) In the name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful." (1*:1.)_____
    If (the Mohammedan) God be merciful, why has He sanctioned that men should inflict great suffering on other creatures by killing them for their food? Are not these animals innocent? Are they not His creatures? He should have also advised men to begin only good deeds in His name and not evil ones. Thus the passage (under discussion) is quite ambiguous. Should even such sinful acts, as theft, adultery, untruthfulness in speech, begun in God's name? Very likely it is on account of this ambiguity that the (Mohammedan) butchers etc., mutter "In the name of God, the compassionate, the most Merciful as the moment of cutting the throats of cows and other animals."

    It is clear then that the Mohammedans do begin even evil deeds in the name of God. The Mohammedan God can never be called Merciful, because He shows no mercy towards those animals (whose slaughter He sanctions). If the Mohammedans do not know the true meaning of this passage, its revelation is of no use to mankind. But if the Mohammedans interpret it differently, we should like to know what its plain meaning is.
    Praise be to God, the Lord of all creatures, the Compassionate, the Merciful." (1: 1, 2.)

    C. ~ Had the God of the Qoran been the Lord of all creatures, and been Merciful and kind to all, He would never have commanded the Mohammedans to slaughter men of other faiths, and animals, etc. If He is Merciful, will He show mercy even to the sinners? If the answer be given in the affirmative, it cannot be true, because further on it is said in the Qoran "Put Infidels to sword," in other words, he that does not believe in the Qoran and the Prophet Mohammad is an infidel (he should, therefore, be put to death). (Since the Qoran sanctions such cruelty to non-Mohammedans and innocent creatures such as cows) it can never be the Word of God. http://www.aryasamajjamnagar.org/chapterfourteen…. (Light of Truth)

  344. "God says: And they, the disbelievers among the Children of Israel, schemed, against Jesus, by assigning someone to assassinate him; and God schemed, by casting the likeness of Jesus onto the person who intended to kill him, and so they killed him, while Jesus was raised up into heaven; and God is the best of schemers, most knowledgeable of him (Jesus). ONLY TAQIYYA MUSLIMS LIKE YOU DON'T SEE THE EVILNESS IF THIS EXPLANATION !
    No real GOOD god would behave in such a DECEIVING way !
    YOU ARE BRAINWASHED MAN, YOU CAN'T THINK CLEARLY AND WTHOUT BIAS !!
    The best you can do for alla and all of humanity is…..to blow up yourself. Donlt be a coward and a hypocrite !

  345. "Considered that God is called Merciful over 300 times in the Quran, and the term khayru al-makireen is used only twice. I wonder which one you Islamophobes focus on? How one could twist this into something negative, I don’t know, but I guess Islamophobes are very adept at twisting things. "
    NOW THÁT IS REALLY STUPID!!
    EXAMPLE: Assume someone is 300 times good to you but he he deceives you 2 times ! Do you trust this person? Or do you think he is a deceiver? Do YOU SEE IT !!

  346. You still don't get ot Muslim ( =big insult).
    There could be more Gods for example. YOU MUST FIRST PROVE THAT THERE IS ONE OR NO GOD !!!
    You don't know if there are only 2 possibilties . It is really simple , even for a muslim to understand !
    A COIN HAS ONLY 2 SIDES !!!
    You can only think as a brainwashed muslim !

  347. I see the medication is wearing off Julianchandra!

    Angry, and at retards like you? You've got more chance of you flying to the moon with Richard Branson paying only 10 rupees for the fair on Virgin Galactic.

    I just take my time and demean you to-s-s-ers at will. Your stupidity levels in fact make me laugh and are setting new records.
    ;)

  348. My friend is a muslim he once said muslim areas are dirty .
    I didn't ask or tell him any thing but he himself told that .

  349. You mean when I took your compatriot Loki to school and back concerning 1 of 2, and all he could do is witter on about probability in sequences when we were dealing about a one off event and no sequences! Which judging by your comments, you don't even have a clue about.

    That being the case, you're so dumb, you would starve if ever you locked yourself in a grocery store.

  350. :D raghunandan ? nice work bro . this shows your profound prejudice against hindus

  351. I din't say hinduism is precise.
    I feel that you should use brain and be more rational.
    Do not forget change is the only constant.
    keep change your mentality .see the world as it is .
    By the way which madrasa did you graduate from?

    Take for eg the topic of miracle of water cycle in quran .
    this is some made up shit by zakir naik
    we can easily prove that islam is lie.
    you should better read everything alisina says in this website cross verify it with your quran and hadiths . we are not fighting islam because it has mistakes but because it is a ideology which poses great danger to humanity.

  352. AD HOMINEMS !!! ONLY AD HOMINEMS !!!
    ILLOGICAL MUSLIM ;-)

  353. YOU PROVE OUR POINT !!
    ISLAM IS EVIL !!
    THANK YOU MUSLIM ;-)

  354. MUSLIMS ( AMINRIADH, ALI etc.) asked to prove that Islam is SATANIC !! HERE IS A PROOF .
    Who is the devil ? Also called SATAN. (n.b. Many other surahs come to the same cinclusion).
    Surah 22:4 says:"It has been decreed for every devil that whoever turns to him – he will misguide him and will lead him to the punishment of the Blaze."
    So the devil (Satan) is (are) the one(s) who sends people astray !
    What is the NAME of the entity in the QURAN that misguides people and sends them astray ?
    Surah 4:88 says: "What is [the matter] with you [that you are] two groups concerning the hypocrites, while Allah has made them fall back [into error and disbelief] for what they earned. Do you wish to guide those whom Allah has sent astray? And he whom Allah sends astray – never will you find for him a way [of guidance]."
    SO THE NAME IF THE ENTITY THAT SENDS PEOPLE ASTRAY IS ALLAH !!
    CONCLUSION: ALLAH IS (A?) SATAN.
    ISLAM IS THE RELIGION WHICH ALLAH ONLY APPROVES (Surah 3:85) . SO ISLAM IS SATANIC !! Q.E.D.

  355. Dream on rafiq aka raghunandan.

    You guys seem to be delusional with a capital D and think cow worship is normal.

    I don't pity you pagans, I am amazed at your stupidity.

  356. And after the cow kicks the sh—t out of denialisnoproof, he will immediately fall to his knees and start worshipping the sh—-t.
    :D

  357. How comes you haven't tumbled it then denialisnoproof, if Islam is a house built on cards and anyone can tumble it?

    Are you finally admitting your feebleness or you still believe you are stupid? Take your pick of the two.

  358. Is that it Julian?

    At least give something remotely tangible.

  359. NO ANSWER OF COURSE OF THE BACKWARD MUSLIM QURRATALAYN !!! :-)

  360. Julian is a man. A Hindu man form India subscribing to Hinduism to be precise.

    Just like you denialisnoproof. A Hindu and a nasty one at that.

    For you to believe Julians replies to be intelligent, sums up your own intellect deficiency.

    But what can we expect from someone like you who is so dumb, you could trip over a cordless phone!

  361. ALL AD HOMINEMS, "SCHOLAR" AMIN-RAT !!! ;-)

  362. PROOF: The blackstone you muslims are kissing !!
    But there is much more: http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-cha

  363. FOR proof see: http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-cha
    This will make you angry…I know !! ;-)

  364. Dream fking on denialisnoproof. The only thing you are going to bring down is the your bed from the roof.

  365. NO LOGICAL ANSWER OF COURSE OF THE "SCHOLAR" AMIN-RAT !!! ;-)

  366. AMINRIADH: " But I know my way around Classical Arabic pretty well. " HERE IS HOW I EXPERIENCED IT:
    Muslims to non-muslim who critisizes Islam:
    1) Muslim(smiling) "You don't understand Islam. Read the Quran yourself."
    2)Non-muslim: "But I have read the Quran in English."
    3) Muslim: "you have read the wrong translation".
    4) Non-muslim: "I read Yusuf Ali" as many muslims do themselves!
    5) Muslim ( haughty smiling) : "you have to read the Quran in Arabic".
    6) Non-muslim : "I did, and it was even more disgusting and violent"!
    7) Muslim (angry !): "You have to read the Quran in CLASSICAL Arabic"!!
    8) Non-muslim : "I try to, but the oldest Qurans have no diacritical signs, many words are missing, etc. … every 5th sentence is completely unreadable, even Arab-scholars can't read it".
    9) Muslim ( furious and violent now) cries: "YOU EVIL KAFIR, YOU ARE CRAZY!!…YOU WILL BURN in HELL !!!"

  367. @Julia .As Ali is a devout muslim . he has to believe whatever quran bullschits about.
    qurant says women are less intelligent than men ,He thinks you are a man as you are more intelligent than him and giving befitting replies .
    Bubba ali is this why you are thinking that julia is a man?

  368. your muhammad used to have sex with his umpteen wives even if they were undergoing period. muzzies in india live like a parasites in india

  369. muslims are clean ? come and see how muslims are living in india

  370. Hi Ali wassup

    If islam is wrong we are going to bring down it's institutions in our country .
    that's our aim

  371. YOU ARE REALLY ANGRY ,HEY ALI-BABA !!! YOU ARE NOT AS "COOL" AS YOU ALWAYS PRETEND TO BE !! ;-)
    BUT THAT IS GOOD !!! IT MEANS THERE ARE SOME CELLS LEFT IN YOUR BRAIN .
    I AM NOT AFRAID OF YOU NOR OF YOUR "HELL". HAHAHA !! BACKWARD RETARD . YOU HAVE A 7TH CENTURY MINDSET .!!!
    BUT ASSUME I WILL BURN FOREVER, WHY SHOULD YOU BE SO ANGRY THEN !! YOUR FAKE ALLAH WILL PUNISH ME …YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. YOU MORON. OR DO YOU THINK THAT YOUR SUPPOSEDLY ALLMIGHTY ALLAH NEEDS HELP OF A MORON WHO CAN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND SOME SIMPLE PROBABILITY THEORY.
    WHAT CAN DO HOWEVER IS BLOW UP YOURSELF AMONG SOME INNOCENT PEOPLE ( or muslims ) ALLAH LIKES THAT VERY MUCH ….YOU KNOW ! HAHAHAHAHA !!!

  372. You are a Muslim Ali-Baba so of course you THINK you are a genius. ! ;-)
    That is what your fake prophet The Insane Camel ( al insan al kamil) Mohammed also thought of himself…and you must follow and obey this evil bastard !!!!!
    You even proved to be a genius with your invention of a new Probabily theory and a new principle of equal likelyhood!
    It was very funny to see how LOKI destroyed you ! Sorry man…but you are REALLY STUPID !!! And ridiculous HAHAHA !!!!!
    In the same manner Islam will be destroyed ….with the SIMPLE TRUTH ;-)
    GET OVER IT !!! ;-)

  373. "the chosen one" you can keep telling yourself that as long as you wish, you can believe in your materialistic heaven as hard as you want, it will never be true my dear friend. I pity you… Seriously !

  374. I am not a dude, I am a woman. I told you that before. But even thát you can get in your head.
    LOKI got you red handed Ali-Baba.You don't understand probability…and thát is the truth you have to live with. But you can not admit, because your a supemacistic muslim. Even if you are clearly wrong …you still think you are right.!!
    And then you start calling names , because you have no arguments left.
    You are childish and pathetic…and in your heart you know it.
    But go on trying to be "cool" and let us laugh some more!!
    You can't even stop you backward babbling !
    HAHAHA !!!

  375. @Julian. Not too bright are we retard?

    Considered that God is called Merciful over 300 times in the Quran, and the term khayru al-makireen is used only twice. I wonder which one you Islamophobes focus on? How one could twist this into something negative, I don’t know, but I guess Islamophobes are very adept at twisting things.

    The term khayru al-makireen is first used in verse 3:54 of the Quran:

    And they schemed (against Jesus) and God schemed (against them), but God is the best schemer.

    The context of this verse can be found in Tafsir Al-Jalalayn, as follows:

    God says: And they, the disbelievers among the Children of Israel, schemed, against Jesus, by assigning someone to assassinate him; and God schemed, by casting the likeness of Jesus onto the person who intended to kill him, and so they killed him, while Jesus was raised up into heaven; and God is the best of schemers, most knowledgeable of him (Jesus).

    So, that is the context in which God “schemed", similar to the one mentioned in 8.30, but you dudes want to clutch at straws.

    When one schemes, it's known as a plan and God has a systematic plan for the likes of you Julian. And that plan is…………………you fkers will burn in Hell-fire for eternity! :D

    Now say, if we agree that the term is deceive and deciever, not scheme, then what?

    Do you understand the following sentence retard? 'They deceived the enemy by disguising the destroyer as a freighter'.

    Does this mean they are liars for fooling the enemy, or smarter for fooling the enemy?

    Take your time.

  376. You still talking Julian?

    You know there is help out there for retards?

    I don't know about India and the schit infested village you come from, but over here, it's world class.

    I might be crazy in your books, but to be fair, who isn't to you, however, compared to you I am a genius.

    I'm surprised you haven't got a sign on Uranus, saying 'open for business, come on in'!

    Don't worry mate, your'e not the first and definitely won''t be the last.

    You are so stupid you sold your car for petrol money and when you go to sleep, you take a ruler to bed to see how long you slept!

  377. If our God does not exist, then why are you 'getting your knickers in a twist' about Islam, Julian?

    STFU and get on with your schitty life.

    Make your mind up dikwad.

  378. You still here Julian?

    Ain't you meant to be back at the Yerawada Mental Hospital where a dik worshipper like you is a permanent resident? You was only on accompanied home leave for the weekend.

    Get back you retard.
    ;)

  379. A fool supporting a fool doesn't become a genius Julian!

    You believe Jupiter created you. And as far as 1 of 2 is concerned, your logic is more than likely that of Loki's. Even a retarded infant could tell you what 1 of 2 means. But, You are Hindu Indian, so what do we expect.

    See ya dude.

  380. BAD LUCK TO YOU , ALI(BABA) !!

  381. I KNEW IT !!!. I KNEW HOW YOUR ANSWER WOULD LOOK LIKE ! BUT IT IS,OF COURSE, NO ANSWER AT ALL !!
    WHAT AN ARROGANT MUSLIM-BASTARD YOU ARE !
    But you are funny and helpful ! People see how quasi-intellectual muslims think ! HAHAHA

  382. You are accusing me of being irrational .so please explain me what is rationality according to muslim .

  383. "We here is a group of rational people . "

    Your stupidity often is astounding . . . your use of "we" did not refer to a group of rational people. That would be an idiotic comment to make . . .

    - – -

    "I will try to mend it not like muslim brain dead idiots . "

    No you won't – this is rather obvious from the comments you write.

    - – -

    "So please educate me what is rationality "

    If you claim to be already rational . . . then why is it that you need educating in it?

  384. We here is a group of rational people . Hindu is my cultural identity . If there is something irrational in my ideas or in culture I will try to mend it not like muslim brain dead idiots .
    Who follow every thing like herd of sheep.

    So please educate me what is rationality

  385. "No We understand the rationality unlike muzzy sub humans who get indoctrinated instead of getting educated"

    There is no "we" where you have inserted it. Also as a Hindu – you go through the same indoctrination process. . . you language style, tone and etc – reveal you to be nothing more than a 'troll'.

    You do not have the ability to string a single decent argument together. . . I am not sure yo even understand the basic concept and the difference between what is and isn't an argument.

    Hence – this is probably the reason why you said "we" rather than "I". A bit cowardly . . . attempting to hide behind a group . . . rather than bravely flying your own flag.

    - – -

    You simply come here to vent such comments . . . why? They don't make a difference to anything . . just mindless swearing . . . intimating on your own sad state of mind.

    They are not intelligent . . . or elucidate any knowledge. . . . I hope you draw some comfort from them . . . and they at least make you feel better!

    - – -

    As far as 'rationality' goes . . . my dear . . . you need help – in more ways than one. To reason is beyond you . . . to rationalise is a stage higher. . . you have no hope of getting there . . . with your present state of mind.

  386. Ali sina Zindabad .
    I will watch your movie first say first show if it is released in india.
    How can we contribute for your movie?

  387. No We understand the rationality unlike muzzy sub humans who get indoctrinated instead of getting educated. Islam is a house built on cards ,anybody can tumble it. The only two pillars of islam are blasphemy law and apostasy laws

  388. "Call me liar from now till death. How long would that be? 70 years from now? That won't change the simple truth. Many see the truth and don't recognize it or don't want to admit it. "

    Yet in the above matter . . . you know full well – you lied. And you cannot get away from that – with mere words . . . not when all evidence fails you.

    - – -

    "How can one prove years of study of an ancient language? "

    By showing your knowledge . . . and not merely claiming it. . . .

    THAT IS A BIT OBVIOUS!

    Hence – you lied about it. If you haven't . . . then why did you resort to such patronising BULLSHIT?

    - – - –

    "Prove to me that Allah is the true God, can you do that? "

    Yet this is DIVERSION . . . . from the above. I am not asking you anything more than prove your imagined "years of study" of Arabic.

    When you are CLEARLY unable to do so . . . you resort to BS such as above . . . which logically fallacious on more than one count.

    Don't piss about . . . . either answer – or leave it.

    - – - –

    "I on the other hand can prove that Jesus is the true God (inside and outside scriptures). "

    No you cannot – But finalise the above first.

    Simple – you claimed supposed knowledge of Arabic. . .

    . . . .simple question of proving it . . . and you went to pieces.

    Hence – YOU LIED – And I have successfully exposed that.

  389. Hans Wehr is a simplified dictionary . . . for better and detailed explanation . . .
    http://www.tyndalearchive.com/tabs/lane/

    Even better – is to refer to the Original Classical Arabic lexicons. . . however Lanes is an excellent alternative.

    - – -

    The trouble with people referring to all such material – is that they do not have the ability to discern or comprehend themselves.

    What is the value of using such material as evidence . . . with such open bias?

    - – -

    It is interesting to note that the site – whenever it is in their favour to do so – will refer to Classical dictionaries and expert materials . . . when it isn't they will leave it out.

    Hence – there is only slight reference to such material. And that in the footnotes.

    Experts used? Badawi and Yahya. Hardly your first choice of expertise in Arabic.

    = = =

    For the sake of blowing ones own trumpet – Even I consider myself to have better command of Classical Arabic than Harun Yahya.

  390. YOUR GOD ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST . SO LET HIM CURSE…STUPID BACKWARD
    MUSLIM . YOU BELIEVE ANYTHING YOUR IMAM SAYS. YOU CAN AND DARE NOT THINK FOR YOURSELF ABOUT ISLAM !!!
    Unnecessary Questioning is Disapproved in Islam , you know that Ali, don't you ?

  391. I think this "thing" Ali is right !
    The muslims are the chosen ones. Chosen for hell by their Allah. Quran 19:71. http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/muslims_in

  392. Your HAHAHA does not prove anything,Julia.

    And your lame argument does not deserve our attention.

  393. GOOD WORK LOKI.
    THIS ARROGANT MUSLIM IS TOTALLY DESTROYED BY YOU !!
    HE DOES NOT HAVE THE FAINTEST IDEA ABOUT PROBABILITY . HOW COULD HE…"
    HE IS A MUSLIM !!! HAHAHA !!!
    He believes in JINNS ! ;-) ;-)

  394. "Don't hate mate, don't hate! "
    Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. – Sura 2:193 and 8:39
    AND SO ON AND ON !!!

  395. YOUR ALLAH AND MOHAMMED ARE MUCH WORSE .
    READ YOUR EVIL QUEAN ONCE AS ANORMAL HUMAN BEING !!!
    HOW MANY TIMES SAID ALLAH (=MOHAMMED) THAT ALL UNBELIEVERS WILL GO TO HELL .
    UNBELIEVERES HE HAS CREATED HIMSELF (supposedly) AND THEN BLINDED THEM AND SET THEM ASTRAY!!!
    HOW DISGUSTING …INDEED !!!

  396. ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌
    Sunday 9 September 2012, 5:43 pm

    Issued in Public Interest

    Trolling is natural outcome of long lasting hatred phenomenon mastered by group of community people mostly lacking intellectual capabilities.

    Its always sign of low intellectuality and intelligence when folks run for shadow instead of real object where shadow is dependent of light and angel while projecting an object.

    Here are some people with dreams of eradicating Islam and some are moved by their interests. Whatever Anti-Islamists try to attack some Islamists will defend and some Islamist will counter-attack on their faiths or understandings.

  397. ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST, IBLEES DOES NOT EXIST, MOHAMMED IS DEAD (if he ever existed !), JINNS DON'T EXIST, HELL DOES NOT EXIST ETC.ETC. !!!
    OTHERWISE : PROVE IT !!!
    IT is all in your brainwashed head !!

  398. " Read any classical dictionary of of Arabic – It will mention the word مكر means to to strategy against."
    NO…Hans Wehr dictionary also confirms the meaning of the term:
    makara u (makr) : to deceive (sic!) , delude , cheat,dupe, gull,double-cross.
    makr: cunning, craftiness,slyness, wiliness, double-dealing,deception,trickery.
    YOU CAN FIND IT ALL HERE : http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Allah_the_Best_Deceiver
    BUT I ALREADY THINK I KNOW YOUR ANSWER ! ;-)

  399. HERE IS GOOFY THE ARABIC AGAIN. !
    ARABIC IS JUST ANOTHER LANGUAGE !!! AND THEREFORE IT CAN BE TRANSLATED !! IF NOT…THEN IT WOULD BE A VERY STRANGE LANGUAGE INDEED , IT WOULD EVEN BE WORTHLESS !!!
    ANOTHER THING IS THE ARABIC OF THE ( OLDEST) QURANS . THESE BOOKS ARE VERY UNCLEAR ( NO DIACRITIC SIGNS ) , WORDS MISSING ETC.
    NO ONE CAN REALLY SAY WHAT IS IN THIS BOOKS, NOT EVEN ARABIC SPEAKING SCHOLARS !!!
    See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVtdmiRnZhI

  400. YEP!!! COMPLETELY WORTHLESS !!!

  401. Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda' said, "We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.'' Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, "The Tuqyah is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.''
    YUQYAH or TAQIYYA is a very islamic principle. This means that all muslims are ass-holes too. is it not "point" ?

  402. ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THAT YOU ARE NOT AFRAID OF YOUR ISLAMIC HELL, YOUR SATAN, YOUR PUNISHMENT IN THE GRAVE, OF EVIL JINNS ???
    Allah sends all sinners to his hell, where they will endure horrible torture.
    Don't you beloeve that, Aminriadh ?? Come on man ….

  403. Don't try to escape with some silly answer QURRAT…
    Rather tell us what these silly Arabic letters Alif, Lam, Mim mean !!
    I know that it are the leters A,L and M.
    BUT WHAT DO THEY MEAN ??? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THESE STRANGE LETTERS ?
    AND HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?
    Or are you yourself a blind person following the blind??
    Please a logical and straightforward answer , no beating around the bush , please.
    Your Allah says himself that his book is WITHOUT DOUBT,
    EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND EXPLAINED IN DETAIL !!! COME ON !! LET'S HAVE IT !!! ;-)
    HEY…D NO: "ALLAH KNOWS BEST". That is NOT an explanation at all !!

  404. To the Islamic scholar Aminriadh. You said:
    "I have already established what Makkar means ".
    NO you did not ! You think (because you are brainwashed) you did , but that is of course not the same ! ;-)
    But O.K. let's leave that aside . I have another question , which is also very well known, but which is never answered in a "scholarly" (hmmm) way yet !
    It is a simple question,really, and I have asked other "scholars" before :
    What do the letters Alif,Lam,Mim in surah 2:1 mean ? There are more such letters in other surahs, you know that !
    Now since your Allah says that his Quran is WITHOUT DOUBT, EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND EXPLAINED IN DETAIL ,I assume that YOU know the LOGICAL AND UNDERSTANDABLE ANSWER on this question !!
    I hope you don't try to escape with some silly excuse !! ;-)

  405. VERY GOOD JOB DRAGOSTE7 !!!
    That Allah is the BEST OF DECEIVERS is a very painful spot for the muslims !
    You can see that they do ALL they can to escape from the simple TRUTH !! I like that . You can see the arrogant quasi-intellectual Amim-rat and the backward AliBaba sweating !!!
    Here something else for them to consider !!
    If they need so much explanation , then they implicitly say that their fake god Allah is a LIAR . Because many times this demon-god says that his book is easy to understand and clearly explained IN DETAIL !!
    So their should not been need for outside sources !
    YEP !!! THE TRUTH WILL ALSO SET YOU MUSLIMS FREE !! ;-)

  406. ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌
    Sunday 9 September 2012, 2:51 pm

    Isn't your I.D. is Julia and point? How empty you I have noticed !

  407. OH YES …It ts going to work.!!
    MAAKIREEN means DECEIVER !!! OF COURSE BUT YOU DON'T LIKE THIS !!! IT IS THE TRUTH ! MUSLIMS AND ISLAM CAN'T stand the truth !!
    Arabic Transliteration: Waqad makara allatheena min qablihim falillahi almakru jameeAAan yaAAlamu ma taksibu kullu nafsin wasayaAAlamu alkuffaru liman AAuqba alddari
    Literal tramslation: And those from before them had cheated/deceived/schemed, so to God (is) all the cheatery/deceit/scheme. He knows what every self gains/acquires , and the disbelievers will know to whom (is) the house's/home's end/turn (result).
    FOR MUCH MORE ON THIS SEE:
    http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Allah_the_Best_Dece
    READ IT !! IQRAH !!! HAHAHA !!!

  408. Well Ali Sina does not have to do a psychoanalysis on you brainwashed Ali(Baba).
    Even I can do that: You are completely crazy !!
    HAHAHA !!! Don't be offended ,muslim !

  409. MAN!!! You are really stupid. I can see why your I.D. is just a point. But that is still to much.
    You are completely EMPTY !!! But how can you type that ?
    Perhaps { ) , An empty set as in mathemathics ??? HAHAHA !!!

  410. @Dragoste7. Well, why don't you get Ali Sina to do a psychoanalysis on Jesus, just like he has claimed to have done on Mohammed, so he can show all the world including the Christians, by publishing a book! That way, we can all learn about Jesus.
    After which he can do one on Moses. And then one on Buddha and then Krishna, so no one feels left out.

    He seems to claim, albeit by proxy, to be THE world's leading authority on this and has done something and discovered something that no one has ever done before.

    We await.

  411. Just stop howling like dog you alisina and your companions and get ready for your destiny. Alisina you have been declared to murder and after your death alongwith your companions you will come to know the truth but it will be all invain then caz the time would have alrady been passed for you to return. I tell you alisina and your companions, your life has a beginning but has no end and you have to live forever either in jannah or in hell now the choice is yours. Get ready for your end.

  412. "Muslims are hurting Muslims while Christians are offering their homes to Syrian refugees and some Israeli pilots avoided to kill innocents from their sworn enemies. "

    Meaningless biffle baffle . . . . especially when Christians themselves are NOT prone to

    - – -

    The Israeli statement . . . really takes the biscuit. That is example of mercy? That those are somehow good soldiers who didn't kill innocent?

    What about all those times . . . they actually did? Or their countless fellows did?

  413. "Your last statement about Jesus shows how little you know about him and the bible. "

    Whereas it shows the opposite . . . given how you couldn't even bring a counter-argument. But made one of your usual meaningless comments.

    - – - –

    "Apparently he didn't do that much effort to hush it up did he? "

    Actually – any effort made – was disgusting. The right thing – to cull the problem. The real problem is the inhumane requirement to be celibate.

    - – -

    "And you see he also forgave those corrupted people and instead of I don't know "lash them" or beat them or telling them "you're going to hell", he kept them in Vatican under probation and in a program to heal them. "

    Yet you don't bother to mention – WHICH people. Hence another meaningless comment.

    - – -

    " Believe what you want to believe, you only see that non-Muslims are evil. "

    Now you are resorting to open lies . . .

    - – -

    "Give me a break, my people never harmed others instead they always helped."

    Another utterly meaningless comment . . . how am I meant to know who "your people" are.

    If it is the Catholics . . . well – then this has to be the most delusional statement ever. . .

    - – -

    "That's what I was trying to say all along but you have prejudice that you only think that I am trying to justify others violence"

    See . . . even in this you lie . . . not others' violence but your own. Also:

    "If I am to follow your reason, then my country should nuke Islamic countries because we "doubt" that you are plotting against us. It's not wrong to do so you know, we'll be doing exactly what Holy Mohamed did. "

    The above and what you later claim – don't go together.

    "That's a stupid argument because any country can do and justify its violence the same way Mohammad did. "

    Doh! Yet you attempted to justify YOU POTENTIAL violence – by what you are condemning now.

    Those were your words. . . that is what they indicate.

    - – - –

    "It's not meaningless when Arab Muslims disagree with you and they are proud that their prophet was a strong conqueror. "

    And in context:

    "Tell that to Muslim scholars and Mullahs. "

    The above statement is as . . . meaningless as ever.

  414. There are good people in every country and every religion.

  415. "See JP II knew about altar boys being raped . . . he sought to keep it under wraps and hush it up. . . "

    Apparently he didn't do that much effort to hush it up did he?
    And you see he also forgave those corrupted people and instead of I don't know "lash them" or beat them or telling them "you're going to hell", he kept them in Vatican under probation and in a program to heal them.
    Many Christians didn't like that decision, they wanted those people to be kicked out of the Vatican.

    ——————————————————————–

    "This isn't what you have said above . . . you attempted to justify your own violence . . . as counter-violence. Which many people do. When caught out . . . you sought creative re-interpretation."

    That's what you think. Believe what you want to believe, you only see that non-Muslims are evil. Give me a break, my people never harmed others instead they always helped. I wasn't justifying my violence because I never was violent. I was only pointing that thinking in a violent way will backfire. Let me simplify it to you one last time:
    according to muslims, Muslims led by mohamad raged a Jihad war and conquered/looted other tribes/countries under the flag of "self-defense". That's a stupid argument because any country can do and justify its violence the same way Mohammad did. That's what I was trying to say all along but you have prejudice that you only think that I am trying to justify others violence while I'm only saying that this IS STUPID.

    ————————————————————————–

    "How meaningless. . . . why did you even bother to comment? Who was that statement going to impress? "

    It's not meaningless when Arab Muslims disagree with you and they are proud that their prophet was a strong conqueror.

    ——————————————————————-

    Your last statement about Jesus shows how little you know about him and the bible.

  416. "Media spotlight didn't stop many cardinals at the Vatican from corruption or raping altar boys."

    See JP II knew about altar boys being raped . . . he sought to keep it under wraps and hush it up. . .

    where was his forgiveness then?

    He only forgave that person . . . because of Media. The only thing to do.

    - – -

    "If you're a celebrity and you claim that your chicken lay golden eggs, why would you make such claim and risk destroying your reputation? "

    Wow . . . what a wonderfully fallacious analogy. How does it equate to JP2 forgiving his potential assassin? It doesn't

    - – -

    "No I did not change my tune, I was just saying that if I am to follow the logic of the Muslim (which his name only shows as squares in my browser) then I'll have every "excuse" to nuke Muslim countries (that is just to make a point that if we are to think like him, he'll be already nuked). There is nothing deceptive there, only reasoning. Reread the argument above, it's all there. "

    This isn't what you have said above . . . you attempted to justify your own violence . . . as counter-violence. Which many people do. When caught out . . . you sought creative re-interpretation.

    - – -

    "Tell that to Muslim scholars and Mullahs. "

    How meaningless. . . . why did you even bother to comment? Who was that statement going to impress?

    - – -

    "No, according to Jesus, everyone will be judged by how much they loved and helped. No mention to religion when he talked about judgment day. "

    Yet a "gentile" – non-Jewish woman bested him . . . The Jesus according to the Bible was a 'stick character' – who only came to the Jews.

    This how "much they loved and helped" – means absolute ZILCH.

  417. ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌
    Friday 7 September 2012, 9:21 am

    ??I know Israeli killed innocent Palestinians but I was pointing out that there are good Israelis. ??

    And there are good Lebanese, good Turks and good Syrians around you. Isn't that make you feel good ?????

  418. Sorry to be off-topic, but what happened to http://www.faithfreedom.org ?

    Hopefully it will come back?

  419. Do you mean this "And He taught Adam the names of all things; then He placed them before the angels, and said: “Tell me the names of these if you are truthful.”

    They said: “Glory be to You! We possess no knowledge save what You have taught us. Indeed, You alone are All-Knowing, the Wise.”

    He said: “O Adam! Inform them of their names.” When he had informed them, Allah said: “Did I not tell you that I know what is unseen in the heavens and on Earth, and I know what you reveal and what you hide?” [Sūrah al-Baqarah: 31-33]
    What I understood from Surah is different because I am Arabic speaker…you have problem in translation God test the angles knowledge not Adam's memory …

  420. "They have Sikh and Jewish members. "

    So has BNP – something which was simply enforced. However some joined up – in anti-Muslim hate.

    EDL – is a Racist group – their origin and leaders are . . . and they are quite violent. Almost all of their demos tend to end in fisticuffs with the Police.

    - – -

    Anti-Muslims hate has been a good vehicle, for a while, for the BNP as well. Sina's support for this violent group comes from Geller's support for it.

  421. Heaven is full of beautiful girl ready for having sex with muslim/mujahidin…hahaha what a stupid and lust Muhammad

  422. The Miracle you are looking for is right in front of you and I showed you some proofs, which you just couldn't comprehend. The QURAN.

    Now you are using the tu quoque fallacy.

    You avoided having to engage with criticism by turning it back on the accuser.

    Literally translating as 'you too' this fallacy is commonly employed as an effective red herring because it takes the heat off the accused having to defend themselves and shifts the focus back onto the accuser themselves.

    The implication is that if one's opponent also does the thing that they are accused of, then their opponent is a hypocrite. Irrespective of whether this might be true or not, the problem lies in the fact that it is effectively a tactic to avoid recognising and responding to the criticism of one's argument – by turning it back on the accuser, the accused doesn't need to answer the accusation.

    It is you that needs to answer and not just brush it under the carpet.

    You need to pray for yourself……… to see the Truth.

  423. " John Paul II could have done nothing, neither forgive nor condemn. But he chose not just to forgive but to also help. "

    In such Media spotlight – he had NO OTHER OPTION. Simple – what he did WAS NOT EXAMPLE OF FORGIVENESS.

    Especially when you consider his lack of "forgiveness" in other matters.

    - – - –

    "Mohammad showed no mercy to his enemies, that's history not my assumption. "

    No – those are your words . . . and that is it.

    - – -

    "You called it deception. I do not wish to Nuke Muslim countries, on the contrary I'm helping innocent Muslim Syrians to settle in my country and feel like home. You have no idea what they've been through. "

    You have CHANGED your tune. That is NOT what you implied above . . . . hence deception.

    - – -

    "According to Quran and Allah such good people will go to hell (since they are not Muslims). What Justice is that? "

    tut. . . tut. . . and according to Christianity – all non-Christians will go to hell – no matter what. . . so what justice is that?

  424. "Those pilots ignored orders because they didn't want to massacre innocent civilians. Even though those civilians are Lebanese who are considered enemies. "

    huh? Innocent civilians are just that . . . it has always been frowned on killing innocent civilians . . . what you describe is ahrdly earth shatteringly brave or humane.

    - – -

    "That's part of how you "love your enemy". You may be forced to fight in wars or self-defense yourself but when you have another choice where you can show mercy and forgiveness to your enemy, you must not forget your humanity. "

    No one forces IDF . . . and that is NOT what 'loving your enemies' mean.

    What? that for once they didn't slaughter innocent? Give me a break.

  425. You tried to pretend to be something and someone that YOU ARE NOT.

    And the patronizing. . . attempt. Cor!

    You are lying old windbag . . . an I am calling you out over it.

    Don't attempt to get out of fix with these fallacious means. . . .

    "like I said you need to study the origin of the language meaning that you need to go back to pre-Islamic Arabic in order to understand the original meaning of the word (what the prophet really meant since it was his language before Islam influenced Arabic)"

    This is what you said . . . either prove it or keep quiet.

    - – -

    "Out of many, the first evidence I would give is that Jesus was tortured, crucified and rose from the dead. "

    What the HELL has that got to do with what we were discussing?

  426. Yes move on Ali and keep telling yourself the same lie over and over again.

    You used the word "answer" three times in the reply you just wrote. The 3 symbolizes "Trinity" the one and only God and it is the "answer". Do you see how stupid this sounds?

    Like I said, anyone can make something look astonishing out of nothing. All that anyone needs is someone stupid enough to be astonished.

    By the way, Why mohamad didn't point out such numbers in the Quran? The answer is simple and clear. Muhamad had no idea. The numbers are later gathered by some desperate muslims. Why didn't you count water with soil, embryos…. After all water is more than 80% of our body. Oh I know, that will ruin your precious miraculous numbers.

    There are many scholars still till today studying and decoding the bible. They found really weird stuff that makes what you presented so little and nothing.
    You're laughing at me thinking I can't give you an answer, but my dear I did. It's not my problem that you do not understand it.

    And if you're so proud thinking that Islam/Quran is so miraculous, why don't you show me the real thing. A miracle that happens today, something really amazing done by our God like the old time when he did miracles with Jews? I know your answer will be that Quran is the last miracle and Mohamed is the last prophet, well I got news for you: Continuously (till today) a supernatural miracle happens with us that carries a message from God and Let the true God strike me dead and drag me straight to hell if I'm lying about this. God didn't leave us with just memories but you're too stubborn and full of ego which is blinding you from seeing the truth.

    I have to go now, I'll be praying for you hoping that you'll have enough sense to realize the lie you live in.

  427. ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌
    Tuesday 4 September 2012, 5:15 pm

    Hopeless news Junkie what else you come up with "Love your enemy"? World is full of visible hypocrites like you are !!!

    [youtube X47xNH1jcAc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X47xNH1jcAc youtube]

    Now you are agreed rational violence is OK. Americans are not Christians ! Fact is that there is no religion in Christians !

    Quran don't guide to only fight but have every possible solutions for situations as in war and with enemies !

    Jesus hate Christians coz these are shameless Christians who made Jesus as a joker and follow their own rule to announce publicly no we are not Christians to do this !

  428. @Dragostev7. So I take it you cannot answer the question and in turn throw a question back using the personal incredulity fallacy, because you found something difficult to understand, or are unaware of how it works, you made out like it's probably not true.

    Anyway, Mohammed was mad and an illiterate amongst other claims of you guys, but he still manages to pull of a feat like the one I mentioned to you in the Quran which you cannot answer and can never answer.

    Sometimes we just have to shrug our shoulders, smile to ourselves and move on. Just like what I am doing right now.

    Better luck next time.

  429. You're getting more aggressive, what did I say to upset you? All I asked is that you do your own search. I didn't ask you to believe me.

    Fine you don't want to do your own search, I'll do you a favor and help you out that if you want to of course.

    Out of many, the first evidence I would give is that Jesus was tortured, crucified and rose from the dead.
    Do you want me to present the evidence?

  430. And your point is?

    Anyone can make look like he has significant numbers in his scriptures. lookup more and maybe you can form a DNA code.
    http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/documents/the%20sihttp://www.bible-codes.org/bush-bible-code-scroll

    If you're playing it like this, The cellular structure (you can google laminin) that holds our body together is the shape of the cross and there is a bible verse that says that Jesus holds everything together.
    Colossians 1:16-17 says, “For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.” http://www.faithandhealthconnection.org/weekly-fa

    And if we search more we find more amazing stuff in this science-religion thing like a cross in the black hole captured by Nasa…..

    So there's nothing miraculous in what you presented

  431. John Paul II could have done nothing, neither forgive nor condemn. But he chose not just to forgive but to also help.

    ———

    Mohammad showed no mercy to his enemies, that's history not my assumption.

    ————–

    What is this example . . . exactly of?
    Of Muslims killing and raping each others. Of people showing no mercy to their own people. If that's what they did for their own people, what do we expect of them when they attack their ennemies?

    ———–

    You called it deception. I do not wish to Nuke Muslim countries, on the contrary I'm helping innocent Muslim Syrians to settle in my country and feel like home. You have no idea what they've been through.

    In Australia, we (Christians) placed pressure on the government to take Syrian refugees. The government accepted to bring Syrians but won't give them shelter. So the Australian families are signing up in churches to accept Syrian families in their homes. That's the condition to grant them a Visa. Do you know how huge this is? To accept strangers in their house who came from different background, To support them and feed them for probably many years to come. They'll be sharing the same roof with their wives and daughters and sons.

    That's the definition of "goodness". People in the afterlife will be judged by how good they are and how much they cared and loved not by their religion. According to Quran and Allah such good people will go to hell (since they are not Muslims). What Justice is that?

  432. Asking the right questions is smart. Avoiding to answer them is either laziness or deception.

    First of all "America" is not "Christian", it's a county that holds people from different religions.

    Wars sometimes are inevitable to happen, but how you act toward your defeated enemy or innocent civilians would show your true Metal.

    Israeli pilots 'deliberately miss' targets: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/aug/06/israe

    Those pilots ignored orders because they didn't want to massacre innocent civilians. Even though those civilians are Lebanese who are considered enemies.
    These pilots are not Christians, they are Israeli Jews.
    That's part of how you "love your enemy". You may be forced to fight in wars or self-defense yourself but when you have another choice where you can show mercy and forgiveness to your enemy, you must not forget your humanity.

    Jesus once said "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's."
    Sadly, we're 2000 years later and many still don't get it.

  433. I would say the same to you, but your ammi is down the local sluut house doing her ruundi job, whilst your abba,…….well, you don't even know who he is as you have a choice of 500 men to choose from. Teri maa was open 24/7 so couldn't keep track of which tramp impregnanted her and your sorry a@@ was born.

    Oh well, life must go one even for haraami's like you.

    Not pleaseant for you is it being a Dalit and all that.

    Don't worry, I will pray for your salvation, even though you won't get it, dik sucker! :D

  434. I would say the same to you, but your ammi is down the local sluut house doing her ruundi job, whilst your abba,…….well you don't even know who he is as you have a choice of 500 men to choose from. Teri maa was open 24/7 so couldn't keep track of which tramp impregnanted her and your sorry a@@ was born.

    Oh well, life must go one even for haraami's like you.

    Not pleaseant for you is it being a Dalit and all that.

    Don't worry, I will pray for your salvation, even though you won't get it, dik sucker!

  435. So you've returned after giving your sister one in the barn Raj the Dalit.

    I told you, I could read haraami's like you like a book.

    What next, going to fist fcuk your mum and pi@@ in your beti's mouth? Good boy, keep it up. That way, you can 'kill 2 birds with one stone'.

    Just let me know when you want some 'gora' to come over and dush out your females. I'll send a couple of my mates over who really know how to deal with dirty nasty Hindu's like your family members.

    They'll even video tape it and put it on the net for all your village pervs to see.

    Moving onto the Arabs, they are ready to pay top whack for your nasty family members. They'll even throw in toothpaste with the 1 rupee nightly rate that you guys charge. Pimping ain't easy, but someone has to do it. And who better than you, for your maa, biwi, beti aur behn.

    I'll even commission a new movie for the sluuts in your house. Forget Roti, Kapraa Aur Makaan, we'll call it Maa, Biwi, Beti, Behn, Puudi Maar in the Makaan! And you could be lead actor, fcucking all of them together and one by one.

    Otherwise, ask Durga if she wants a starring role?

    How about it Dalit? You sure could do with the money. It'll help you get a few solid meals in for the week and some soap and water!

    Nasty tramp.
    :D

  436. You Dalit Muslim – are you talking about the treatment you are meted out to by your Arab masters? About how you sold your six months daughter to an 85 year old Arab Sheikh? And how in return he gave a free bang to your wife? Did you forget you yourself had helped direct the person's flaccid tool into your six month daughter's puddi? How you had tied a twig to that fellow's tool to give it a semblance of a straight erect tool?

    Did you forget how the Arab sheikh had thighed your six month old daughter the way Mohammad thighed the small Aisha?

    You people oblige your Arab masters – by licking their feet and their @$$eS and that too when they are at their filthiest best. Know what I mean.

    But of course, you cannot be faulted. Mohammad had made the Arabs superior to you. You people are given immediate jannat if you spare your daughters and sisters for entertaining these Arabs. These Arab masters in turn give a beautiful gift to your daugthers and sisters — make them pregnant – which you Dalit Muslims are unable to.

    These Arab emirs/sheikhs fart into the awra of your females and the likes of you are born – all GAS called JINNS. Your Arab masters have not called you jinns for nothing.

    Your Arab masters oblige you and patronise you people a great deal. No doubt your females prefer your Arab masters and beat you with slippers whenever you try to touch your own females. Your Arab masters reward your females handsomely with money and ensure that filth like you do not go food hungry! And whenever you protest – your Arab masters show you your place by placing their drill into your a$$. A big brotherhood indeed. The gay brotherhood of Muslims – where you are the sex slave and the Arab your sex master.

    So did your Arab master gave teri ma di puudi a glimpse of jannat today?
    Tere Arab master ka lund aur tera gaand – made for each other.

    You filthy slave of the dirty Arab. Go and raise your butt. His hot tool is ready to drill you.

  437. your abba can f@ck your ammi till the 6 hours after her death
    after all he is following muhammd's sunna

  438. Filth like you only understand filth. Therefore we must oblige.

    Why complain? You are only getting the Golden Rule treatment which you live by.

    What's wrong, couldn't get to fcuk your grandmother and mother at the same time today? Don't worry, you sis is waiting in the barn getting ready whilst gobbling the horse.

    Go on, come back later after you have given her a Dalit treatment. I'll be waiting to give you more 'teri maa di puudi' verses!
    :D

    Untouchable lunn!

  439. Is that it?

    I was expecting some nude photos of your mum and sis with horse coks in their mouths! Or least the elephant trunk from your god Ganesha in their gobs, whilst you was schagging them.

    We are waiting.

  440. You are still having the goo filled tool of Mohammad in your mouth. Every other sentence of yours carries schit and dung. Now take the tool out of your mouth and gargle clean your mouth with some acid. Your mouth will become clean.

  441. hahahahaha
    allah the pimp
    said it is ok for your father to fcuck your wife
    just like your mo gandu fcucked his daughter in law zainab

    ask your muhammad to take off his dirty rotten 53 yr old kock out of a nine year old girl's pusssy

  442. you allah pimp worshippers and muhammad child rapist followers
    please look at this
    your father can F@ck your mother upto 6 hours of your mother's death according to islam http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135434/E

    will your father f@ck your dead mother?

  443. Is that it?

    Come on mate, I know you've not been blessed with even the lowest of intellect, but hey.

    Next you'll be saying that Amitabh Bachan is also Muslim hiding under the Hindu banner.

    At least come up with something that is even remotely believable as far fetched as it may be.

    With the amount of experience you idol worshippers have in mythology, believing King Kong was your god, I expected better than that from a retard like you.

    You are letting the Hindu pagan brethren down with your current standards! :D

  444. islamic dog http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000065

    see this and many prostitutes you mentioned are muslim chicks they take hindu name so that their mullahs don;t come hunting them

  445. You trying to talk again dung worshipper?

    I told you before, it must really suck being you.

    Humans and you? (Pi@@ing myself laughing at the sheer audacity).

    You mean vile creatures, which no doubt the likes of you are. Barrel bottom scraping enemies of civilization. Even your own people class you as untouchables (Dalits), so what hope have you got with anyone else?

    At least with Islam, you can be an equal. Come to Islam you dung sniffing retard. :D

    …………………………….On second thoughts, no thanks, stay where you are Dalit.

  446. You back again dung worshipper Raj?

    At least try and makes sense with what you say, so at least you can understand your own logic even though every other person on earth can't.

    I can't say you don't try, but then so do jacka@@es.

    I do wonder if ever you actually understand what you actually say, or is it something you learn at the dung worshipping gatherings?

    Stick to the rickshaw driving as talking coherently and making sense is a skill set that you still have to learn. Maybe going back to school would be the best option given the circumstances. But then again, school cannot fix natural stupidity!
    ;)

  447. // Now where were we……………… //

    To remind you ….. You are rotting in the hate filled Islamic world/hell. And we humans are on earth loving mankind. Even after our offering you countless times our hands to pull you out of Islam(hell) – you are rejecting.

  448. Abu Bakr's crocodile tears to fool the Muslim.
    Muslims following Abu Bakr – misplaced emotion's tears for a wrong faith..

  449. Abu Bakr's crocodile tears to fool the Muslims into. Egoists are concerned about their image.

    Muslims following Abu Bakr ( and now the mullahs and imams and sheikhs ) – true tears but misplaced emotion's for a wrong faith..

  450. @ABC. On what basis would you be giving assurances on behalf of your government in the first place? Exactly what Ministerial Portfolio do you hold?

    And secondly, please share with us this 'article', so we can determine the authenticity of this so called threat and it's independence.

    If you are so determined to show your appreciation of Ali Sina's courage and enterprise, then why are you not standing shoulder to shoulder with him in his neck of the woods in Canada? And since you are one of his advocates, be prepared to get a dressing down on this hate mongering site each time you spew your venom, you enemy of civilization.

    Now where were we………………

  451. If EDL are not racist, then you must still be a Muslim Ali Sina.

    Everyone in the UK knows that the EDL are a far right wing football hooligan and pub racist formed movement. The only reason you are saying what you are is because they are full fledged members of the Presidents Council for SION.

    Are you finally going to show your self Om Puri on the 11 September planned Sion conference in New York or is it via telephone link?

    Either way, your turnout will only be double figures.

  452. Give us this proven fact about Islam being Satanic then dajjal.

    After you have done your little bit of exposing the lies of Islam, then what?

    Islam is a lie and a Satanic submitter religion. Now what?

    Is there anything else you have left to say and do?

    Once you have completed your task, let me know, after which I will rub the salt into your wounds and torture you with Truth.

  453. EDL is not racist. They have Sikh and Jewish members. They will even embrace ex-Muslims. There is nothing racist about them. They have rejected the support of BNF because of the latter\’s racism.

  454. " I receive countless emails of complaints from Indian citizens who say their politicians bend over backwards for Muslims vote bank."

    That is . . . of Hindus hating on Muslims. And nothing more. Hindus too have their extremists – that would lap up any anti-Muslim propaganda. Many are successful members of all parts of Indian society.

    From the film Industry to the Army. From prostitution to politician. . .

    - – -

    Wilders simply played on fears of common Dutch. Already he is on his way out.

    Just like the British BNP. A bit of noise and it all fell apart.

    And interesting thing to note is – under the guise of being anti-Muslim – Sina too started to show his support for Racist groups such as EDL.

  455. Dear ABC,

    I know all about the dhimmi attitude of Indian politicians. I receive countless emails of complaints from Indian citizens who say their politicians bend over backwards for Muslims vote bank. Mu question is why. Why should the politicians bend over backwards of Muslims’ vote when over 80% of Indians are not Muslim? The answer is because the non-Muslims do not act. if they voted only for those who stand up against Islam and boycotted those who are submissive to Muslims you will see that all the politicians suddenly become pro India and anti Islam. You elect these people and you can change them. The way to do it is to raise the awareness and start a movement, much like the one Geert Wilders started in Netherlands.

    You don’t need the majority to come to power. you need 3% of very dedicated activists to take over the government.

  456. See . . . another one that bites the dust. Just bit of brandishing the stick – then that is it.

    I don't care a hoot . . . whether this person goes to er . . . sleep or not. So why the "good night". . . I don't get it.

  457. "And here was no holocaust of Hindus – ever. "

    OH YEAH? pointless to talk to a murderer regarding admission of his guilt.
    but ur right on one count , i do have something useful to right now than talk to you ……… that is to sleep.
    good night.

  458. "People like you really have nothing better to do with your time."

    There has never been any threat to Sina. Supposed or otherwise. This is a common game such people play.

    - – -

    "four million kashmiri pandits are living like refugees and the government is deaf mute and umb. "

    An absolute lie . . . my family is from that region – The govt. does NOTHING but help the Hindu pandits.

    - – -

    "90 million hinuds were killed in an unquanitfied holocaust by muslim invaders for past 1000 years and indian goevernment has ears and sight only for gujrat riots. "

    Yet the Government of that time WAS implicated for the killings. And here was no holocaust of Hindus – ever.

  459. dear dr sina,
    i just read ur article on supposed threat to ur life from india.
    im sorry on behalf of our government. this government fails to protect its own people. how can it react for a foriegner?
    few years ago few indian soldiers were kileld by bangladeshies in the most despicable way possible. the indian government uttered NOT A WORD. four million kashmiri pandits are living like refugees and the government is deaf mute and umb.
    90 million hinuds were killed in an unquanitfied holocaust by muslim invaders for past 1000 years and indian goevernment has ears and sight only for gujrat riots.
    what assurance can i give you on behalf of my government? none im afraid.
    what i can do is register my sincere appreciation for ur courage and enterprise.
    thanks and good day.

  460. In other words Demsci . . . Europe – the worlds most bloodthirsty race stopped its killings and fighting.

    Mind you the bastard child – USA is doing a fine job. . . .

  461. "Can you tell How and why consumption of pork, Cigarette, wine increasing? Why number rape , murdering, looting case increasing. "

    This is an illogical attempt . . . where are your sources? evidence?

  462. "Islam being a satanic submitter religion is a fact, your allah/muhammad posses satanic attributes, this can be proved from the islamic sources itself."

    Prove it then? I have already asked that . . . . what did you do? Resort to petty insults and some meaningless rhetoric – and then ran off.

    - – -

    "You say I can do NOTHING. Well I am doing my bit in exposing the lies of Islam. "

    What lies . . . dear . . . all you are doing is highlighting how inadequate you are of a debate. Hence you ran off . . . when I challenged you garbage. This simply makes you a bit of "joke".

    I mean – don't you imagine yourself to be far more intelligent than me . . . . then why is it that all you can do is few lines. And then have the stupidity to imagine that somehow this is exposing Islam?

    Really? I mean there is . . . . come on. Surely you can do better!

  463. @Demsci. Using the reasons you have cited, Islam will grow further then, as healthcare and science are also developing and will do so, thus further decreasing the mortality rates. Additionally, Islam is growing in the 'West' at an alarming rate and this is not due to healthcare or lack of birth control techniques or inherent Muslims

    Why would the size of Islam worry you more than the size of any other Belief system ranging from Theists to Atheists? With history as our measuring yard stick, wouldn't it be the very system you are prescribing to which is championed by Atheism be the most dangerous? Atheism, being a minority has killed more than any religious based system. This is also backed up with numbers. We should be more worried by Atheism, than any other system out there. This is the real danger as there is no morality code here with Atheism. In the eyes of Atheism, everything is acceptable and doable.

    As far as world populations are concerned, the following list should be taken into account:

    World population (millions)
    #Top ten most populous countries199020082025
    1China 1,1411,3331,458
    2India 8491,1401,398
    3United States 250304 352
    4Indonesia 178228 273
    5Brazil 150192 223
    6Pakistan 108166 226
    7Bangladesh 116160 198
    8Nigeria 94151 208
    9Russia 148142 137
    10Japan 124128 126

    Exactly how much of them are Muslim?

    The top 3 are not Muslim and have a minority Muslim population, but Islam is still growing.

    Coitus interruptus, an older form of birth control, was a known practice at the time of Mohammed, and his companions engaged in it. Mohammed knew about this, but did not prohibit it. Umar and Ali, the second and fourth of the caliphs, respectively, defended the practice.

    Muslims scholars have extended the example of coitus interruptus, by analogy, to declaring permissible other forms of contraception, subject to three conditions:

    As offspring are the right of both the husband and the wife, the birth control method should be used with both parties' consent.

    The method should not cause permanent sterility.

    The method should not otherwise harm the body.

    Therefore the argument that Muslims have no birth control thus the population growth is also false.

    Even with estimated forecasts, the world's population by 2030 will be at least 25% Muslim. This means that Islam will grow albeit at a slower rate than the last one hundred years. And this is where you and the likes of Ali Sina get into a pickle. If the world's total population is 25% Muslim, then there is no way you will ever be able to defeat it or eradicate it as you guys foolishly believe, and if it is only 25% of the world's population, then it is not a majority, so the fear mongering has no justification, which you guys currently promote. Either way, it's a lose-lose situation for people against Islam. Islam is here to stay and will stay.

    Get over it.

  464. ali, Islam being a satanic submitter religion is a fact, your allah/muhammad posses satanic attributes, this can be proved from the islamic sources itself. I am not against Muslims, they are victims of an ideology called islam.
    You say I can do NOTHING. Well I am doing my bit in exposing the lies of Islam.

  465. I can respond to that question, Ali. But indeed your figures do look very impressive! We should not deny the power and appeal of Islam, that would indeed be a mistake.

    But it's very size worries us, much more than, say, the size of the Mormons, or Scientologists, would worry is. These may or may not have world-supremacy-doctrines, but they are negligibly small.

    But I can say that the whole worldpopulation also did grow, in the period you mentioned, from # 1 billion to 7 billion. And I will say that in the 19th and 20th century medicines and healthcare, invented in and originating from the West did make it possible for mankind, and thus also Islam, to die too young much less and grow so fast.

    Also I like to point out, that due to lower deathrates in countries, and higher education-systems, higher literacy and prosperity, eventually birthrates also go down in the same countries.

    This happened in Western countries since the seventies, and quite dramatically, but it now also seems to be happening in the Islamic and many other countries.

    According to the book MegaChanges 2050, edited by the Economist, it is estimated that worldpopulation will finally top off at 9 to 10 billion in 2050 and then it will stay the same or decline. According to the book Islam will continue to grow, because, it says, religion is mostly inherited, until it reaches about 28-30 % of world-population.

    But one can hope that good education and high literacy and the best principles of Democracy (best principles, leading to a good life for the most people) grow even faster.

    And that most Muslims, somehow, will willingly fit into that Democratic system. Leaving only a few truly Islamic societies, who are relatively powerless and peaceful and who can then try to show how the merits of Islam benefit a whole country.

    While according to the UN it now is democracy that seems to be the best working, or the least worst, system for providing the most people with a "good life".

  466. @Prophet. Answer the question with an answer and not a question please.

    You've just used the tu quoque fallacy. You avoided having to engage with criticism by turning it back on the accuser – you answered criticism with criticism. This fallacy is commonly employed as an effective red herring because it takes the heat off the accused having to defend themselves and shifts the focus back onto the accuser themselves.

    The implication is that if one's opponent also does the thing that they are accused of, then their opponent is a hypocrite. Irrespective of whether this might be true or not, the problem lies in the fact that it is effectively a tactic to avoid recognising and responding to the criticism of one's argument – by turning it back on the accuser, the accused doesn't need to answer the accusation.

    Therefore answer the question please.

  467. ____________how and why did Islam grow from 200 million to 1.57 billion from 1900-2009________________
    Can you tell How and why consumption of pork, Cigarette, wine increasing? Why number rape , murdering, looting case increasing.

  468. @Ali Sina. So, exactly what does Abu Bakr crying when reciting the verses mean? Bearing in mind Muslims the world over also cry when they recite some verses of the Quran. I wonder what choices these Muslims are contemplating?

    This should be entertaining.

  469. Of course you are not bothered about Sina's views, dajjal. That's why you use him as your scholarly master.

    On a separate note, how and why did Islam grow from 200 million to 1.57 billion from 1900-2009?

  470. Which part of India you from dajjal?

    OK. Let's agree with you that Islam is a satanic submitter religion. AND WHAT?

    Exactly what are you going to do about it or what can you do about it. NOTHING!

    Anything else you want to answers to?

  471. Instead of playing with words please answer to the subject under discussion. In mecca he made his allah say a few benign verses which the meccans lgnored and laughed at, they had their own god/s and were not interested in muhammad / jibreel / allah cocktail, so they had all the right to resist evil muhammad. What i say is Muhammad the false prophet was indulging in BIGOTRY.

  472. "What I putting across is that muhammad was intolerant to others faith and when resisted he played victim. I am not bothered about Sina's views."

    That was – what the comment was about . . . . and whatever you put across – comes with less value than zero. Such small comments as yours are meaningless.

    i have already sounded you out . . . all you are going to do is make such disparaging remarks.

    Anything more strenuous . . . seems beyond you.

  473. What I putting across is that muhammad was intolerant to others faith and when resisted he played victim. I am not bothered about Sina's views.

  474. Wow – the intelligence comes out to answer. Did you read the above . . . and spot the contradiction? I doubt it.

    - – -

    "this was unusual for the fellow meccans and obviously many laughed at him"

    Actually – this too is not what Sina claims.

  475. Page 236:

    "Ibn Ka’b says he was a devout believer and had accompanied Muhammad on all his raids and that thanks to the proceeds of those wars he had become a wealthy person."

    This is another dishonesty of Sina . . . how is it that Ibn Ka'b became wealthy from Wars or Raids? – how many were there and how much did he he acquire?

    Sina makes quite a few such falsifications – his book is littered and hence dishonest. Its premise is dishonest and so is the content.

  476. The Meccans were polytheist believing in their own god /s, muhammad then claimed about getting revelations from this jibreel / allah something, this was unusual for the fellow meccans and obviously many laughed at him. If Muhammad had kept his nonsense to himself there would not have been trouble for himself nor his mafia. The problem was that he was forcing his allah on others and when vehemently resisted it is perceived as persecution.

  477. Pg 81. . .

    "Now, Abu Bakr was left with the options: Leaving Muhammad, for whom he had made so many sacrifices, denouncing him, calling him a liar and going back to his people, acknowledging he had been a fool; or doing whatever Muhammad asked of him. This is often the difficult choice
    cultists must make. Abu Bakr even built a mosque in the backyard of his house for Muslims to pray. He would often cry when reciting Muhammad’s allegedly revealed verses."

    What Sina tries to built up as crisis of faith for Abu Bakr – is simply figment of his imagination. He has no sources . . . or anything. He does not back it up. . . again I refer to his methodology – and his further comments that confirmed –

    He is simply not interested in honest scholarship. . . he has already decided this is what Prophet Muhammad is . . . so he will make along such narratives.

    Its just that people have brains . . . even those who have no love of Muslims and Islam – will not come and defend this garbage. Successfully prove with several of his so-called supporters – limited to these comment sections.

  478. Page 80

    "Why did Muhammad not take other wives when Khadijah was still alive? Because he was living off her money and in her house. Furthermore, the majority of the people of Mecca derided him. He was called a lunatic. No one would have married him even if he had had money of his own and Khadijah had not been an issue."

    The problem? Well – Sina leads the readers to believe that Muslims were NOT being persecuted in Mecca. He has even given a falsified evidence for this (see a few comment previous) . . . yet this contradicts his own previous story.

  479. More strange phenomena from the book:

    Pg 86 – Footnote 131

    "The Qur’an can be tedious, and that is mainly why few Muslims have read it. However, at
    the risk of boring my readers, in this chapter I will have to quote several Qur’anic verses as
    evidence to support my portrait of Muhammad."

    How does Sina know that only few Muslims have read it? Where is his research or data? Not given . . . this is what I term as hate-mongering . . . rabid statements such as the above – that have no proof or evidence. . . are illogical, stereotypes, prejudice and etc.

    Sina – gives the large about being logical and scientific – ONLY when it serves his purpose. . . as I have highlighted successfully and rather easily . . . that when it doesn't – then all sense of "rationality" is forgotten. The above is case in point.

  480. 6 day wait . . . is long enough!

  481. The extent that this book is simply siphoned from the Internet and bunged together is astounding – when compared to the rhetoric and OTT praises the author lavishes upon the self published book.

    For example:

    On Page 235

    "An intelligent person is one who is constantly thinking about and preparing for death.368"

    This apparent Hadith is quoted . . . yet rather than verifying it – Sina simply gives the web link he acquired it from.

    - – -

    Again one can predict – that he simply went hunting for Quotes of Prophet Muhammad on death . . . he chose the one he liked and included it.

    This isn't what you call scholarship. . . not by any extent of the imagination. How is someone meant to take this book seriously?

  482. "Yeah you are good at counterfeiting like your religion, I must agree that I wont be a match to this type of Scholarship"

    If I have forged anything . . . then the simple and effective thing is to highlight it. Which you know full well you are unable to do. Hence statements like yours are expected and obvious. . . .

    . . . It is like a barking dog with no bite.

    - – -

    Hence – you show yourself up as being nothing more than a bit of a "troll".

  483. Yeah you are good at counterfeiting like your religion, I must agree that I wont be a match to this type of Scholarship, anyway keep on applying sugarcoating to your false god this wont help.

  484. Sunbeam – do understand your own nonsense?

  485. "So allah aka muhammad is the best of deceivers (kairul makkar) which is a satanic attribute, so we conclude, Islam is a satanic submitter religion."

    I have already established what Makkar means – now coming in here and bleating this . . . what would it achieve?

    Either come, match me in scholarship – or else pipe down a little.

  486. So allah aka muhammad is the best of deceivers (kairul makkar) which is a satanic attribute, so we conclude, Islam is a satanic submitter religion.

  487. continued……

    "Human being" is used 65 times: the sum of the number of references to the stages of man's creation is the same: i.e.

    Human being 65
    Soil (turab) 17
    Drop of Sperm (nutfah) 12
    Embryo ('alaq) 6
    A half formed lump of flesh (mudghah) 3
    Bone ('idham) 15
    Flesh (lahm) 12

    TOTAL 65

    The word "salawat" appear five times in the Qur'an, and Allah has commanded man to perform the prayer (salat) five times a day.

    The word "land" appears 13 times in the Qur'an and the word "sea" 32 times, giving a total of 45 references. If we divide that number by that of the number of references to the land we arrive at the figure 28.888888888889%. The number of total references to land and sea, 45, divided by the number of references to the sea in the Qur'an, 32, is 71.111111111111%.

    Extraordinarily, these figures represent the exact proportions of land and sea on the Earth today.

    Being as proficient in Arabic as you are, you should have no problems confirming the above and then giving us all the answers on how it was done over a 23 year period during the time of ignorance, whilst going to war, raping, pillaging, looting, killing, marrying, forcing and what not.

  488. @Dragoste7. Whilst you are brushing up on your Pre Islamic Arabic, could you please care to explain the following giving details on exactly how it came to be and when, because you guys seem to know more about Mohammed and Islam than Muslims do.. Dates, timings and exact records would be handy backed up by evidence:

    The statement of "seven heavens" is repeated seven times. "The creation of the heavens (khalq as-samawat)" is also repeated seven times.

    "Day (yawm)" is repeated 365 times in singular form, while its plural and dual forms "days (ayyam and yawmayn)" together are repeated 30 times. The number of repetitions of the word "month" (shahar) is 12.

    The number of repetitions of the words "plant" and "tree" is the same: 26

    The word "payment or reward" is repeated 117 times, while the expression "forgiveness" (mughfirah), which is one of the basic morals of the Qur'an, is repeated exactly twice that amount, 234 times.

    When we count the word "Say," we find it appears 332 times. We arrive at the same figure when we count the phrase "they said."

    The number of times the words, "world" (dunya) and "hereafter" (akhira) are repeated is also the same: 115

    The word "satan" (shaitan) is used in the Qur'an 88 times, as is the word "angels" (malaika).

    The word faith (iman) (without genitive) is repeated 25 times throughout the Qur'an as is also the word infidelity (kufr).

    The words "paradise" and "hell" are each repeated 77 times.

    The word "zakah" is repeated in the Qur'an 32 times and the number of repetitions of the word "blessing" (barakah) is also 32.

    The expression "the righteous" (al-abraar) is used 6 times but "the wicked" (al-fujjaar) is used half as much, i.e., 3 times.

    The number of times the words "Summer-hot" and "winter-cold" are repeated is the same: 5.

    The words "wine" (khamr) and "intoxication" (saqara) are repeated in the Qur'an the same number of times: 6

    The number of appearances of the words "mind" and "light" is the same: 49.

    The words "tongue" and "sermon" are both repeated 25 times.

    The words "benefit" and "corrupt" both appear 50 times.

    "Reward" (ajr) and "action" (fail) are both repeated 107 times.

    "Love" (al-mahabbah) and "obedience" (al-ta'ah) also appear the same number of times: 83

    The words "refuge" (maseer) and "for ever" (abadan) appear the same number of times in the Qur'an: 28.

    The words "disaster" (al-musibah) and "thanks" (al-shukr) appear the same number of times in the Qur'an: 75.

    "Sun" (shams) and "light" (nur) both appear 33 times in the Qur'an. (In counting the word "light" only the simple forms of the word were included).

    The number of appearances of "right guidance" (al-huda) and "mercy" (al-rahma) is the same: 79

    The words "trouble" and "peace" are both repeated 13 times in the Qur'an.

    The words "man" and "woman" are also employed equally: 23 times.

    The number of times the words "man" and "woman" are repeated in the Qur'an, 23, is at the same time that of the chromosomes from the egg and sperm in the formation of the human embryo. The total number of human chromosomes is 46; 23 each from the mother and father.

    "Treachery" (khiyanah) is repeated 16 times, while the number of repetitions of the word "foul" (khabith) is 16.

  489. "That's the spirit I hope you do that when studying your religion too. "

    Don't attempt patronise me. . . petty and ridiculous attempt at that.

    - – -

    "like I said you need to study the origin of the language meaning that you need to go back to pre-Islamic Arabic in order to understand the original meaning of the word"

    After sometime . . . you cannot come back and start repeating the BULLSHIT . . . it doesn't work me. No matter how many smiley emoticons you add.

    Where is your evidence. . . when I asked you last time – you made excuses and left. . . when you have got no avenue to go to – you repeat this again.

    If you have any such knowledge . . . lets hear it. Else cut out the BS.

    - – -

    "I told you that I studied Arabic back to the "the era of Jahiliyyah".
    This requires years of studies and I am not going to ask you to do so. "

    No you haven't – we tested that out . . . the last time – repeating these statements wont make it true . . . and it is Bullshit.

    I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU AT ALL.

    - – -

    "Study and look it up yourself without letting others influence your search. I know you can do it. You have so much potential aminriadh.
    After you do your own search, and still want me to present miracles to you, If I'm still alive by then, I'll give you what you're looking for. "

    Balderdash . . . patronising Bullshit . . . worthless meaningless

    You are an old fraud – and you know it too.

    - – -

    This is game of "evidence" – you ain't got none. If you have . . . show your face . . .

    else . . . take a hike sonny.

  490. John Paul II's incident what you would call "forgiveness". In such media light – there is nothing else he could have done.

    Where is his "forgiveness" over the Church and Hitler issue . . . after all he was once a Hitler youth himself.

    - – -

    "I don't imagine Mohammad or anyone who takes Mohammad as a role model is capable of forgiving a person who tried to assassinate him. "

    This is just your own prejudice playing out . . . as you HAVE to imagine that others who are NOT the same faith as you . . . are somehow less capable human beings . . . why is that? I mean is that what Christianity is about? When it suits you roll out the mantra . . . when it doesn't . . . turn up the hate.

    - – -

    "The killings that are going on in Syria are self-defense? Syrians against Syrians murdering each others, both sides saying "Allah Akbar" when killing. The women that were raped by both sides when captured, is this self-defense? (the prophet took women as booty so we both can see why they rape with such cold blood) "

    What is this example . . . exactly of?

    - – -

    "If I am to follow your reason, then my country should nuke Islamic countries because we "doubt" that you are plotting against us. It's not wrong to do so you know, we'll be doing exactly what Holy Mohamed did. "

    You deception at its best . . . you wish to nuke Muslim countries – but when you attach the reasoning to Muslims – it is of course, wrong. But when it comes from you – its right.

    Call me stupid on all counts . . . but even I am not that stupid.

  491. @Joker Life. So who are Pakistanis and Indonesians patriotic to? Religion or Country? Which one comes first for them?

    And which part of India do you come from? By God, don't you guys ever get enough!

  492. ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌
    Saturday 1 September 2012, 6:50 pm

    You are stupid enough void reality check about rational violence and dealing with situation !

    Raising questions are again quite lazy thing ! let me try same
    Why didn't and don't America follow Jesus (your manipulated version) and forgive killers? So Americans are following rational violence not Jesus (your manipulated version). Oh good christian there can't be such thing !

    Islam didn't blind you It help you to keep check with reality and situation. I am sure you will be dead in those situation or else you will accept truth about how to deal !

    So far anti-Islamist don't even understand style of language of belief and how it help to boost confidence in omnipotent almighty in complex situations. Way to go stupids way to go find truth !

  493. If you are right, spread your thoughts with other muslims. At least it would be cleared that Ali Sina is running site and not westerns.

  494. Out of all that I said, you only picked a point where you think you're "on to something" and neglected more important/dangerous claims. Even though the answer is obvious and I answered this before, I'll say it again.

    Self-defense is not wrong. This shooter why is he trying to kill me? If I have done something to him like killing his family then I also brought this to myself. If I have done nothing to him and he's killing just to kill why wouldn't I stop him. I am a good shooter myself but if I have to shoot someone that would be in a situation that I have no other choice and I pray while shooting for God to save the one I'm shooting.

    But it is wrong to use "Self-defense" to Justify wars and killings against others. True forgiveness comes when you are in a position of power. Learn what forgiveness is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II_as
    I don't imagine Mohammad or anyone who takes Mohammad as a role model is capable of forgiving a person who tried to assassinate him.
    Can't you see the difference? Mohammad killed with (and without) the excuse of self-defense and when "doubting" someone while Jesus or a good Christian like Pope JPII forgave killers (actual killers not people they "doubted" were plotting something).

    The killings that are going on in Syria are self-defense? Syrians against Syrians murdering each others, both sides saying "Allah Akbar" when killing. The women that were raped by both sides when captured, is this self-defense? (the prophet took women as booty so we both can see why they rape with such cold blood)

    If I am to follow your reason, then my country should nuke Islamic countries because we "doubt" that you are plotting against us. It's not wrong to do so you know, we'll be doing exactly what Holy Mohamed did.

    Don't let Islam blind you from differentiating between good and evil.

  495. aminriadh,

    Sorry for the late reply, like I said I was travelling and still are so I might be away. But I want to congratulate you for presenting a good argument and not believing what others tell you. That's the spirit :D I hope you do that when studying your religion too.

    We may keep arguing about the meaning of مكر forever, like I said you need to study the origin of the language meaning that you need to go back to pre-Islamic Arabic in order to understand the original meaning of the word (what the prophet really meant since it was his language before Islam influenced Arabic) and that's what I meant when I told you that I studied Arabic back to the "the era of Jahiliyyah".
    This requires years of studies and I am not going to ask you to do so.
    There is something easier you can do. I claimed many things in our arguments before such as "Miracles", you called that bullsh*t without even investigating. Funny someone who follows a religion that believes in Jinn (that no one ever saw) would call Miracles (that happen every day- documented and medically/scientifically studied) "Bullsh*t".
    For the moment, I won't present to you any Miracle. Study and look it up yourself without letting others influence your search. I know you can do it. You have so much potential aminriadh.
    After you do your own search, and still want me to present miracles to you, If I'm still alive by then, I'll give you what you're looking for.

    If it's not too much, I want to ask one more thing of you and your brothers. Please pray for our Syrian bothers/sisters. When we give prayers to do good for others, We'll be praying for the same God.

  496. The Muslims are ungrateful and unpatriotic. Given a choice – they will choose religion over their country.
    - this is proved by zakir naik, you can search video on youtube.

  497. Other than Mohammad, donkey was the only one who met allah.

  498. ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌
    Saturday 1 September 2012, 4:04 pm

    Jesus will come back as Muslim and first thing he will destroy all cross and Christianity.

  499. Which Bible you reading?

    Explain this please for starters:

    2 Kings 24:8 says “Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months.”

    2 Chronicles 36:9 says “Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem…”

  500. So why did Jesus come 2000 odd years ago and not at the beginning or at the end giving a fair crack at the whip to everyone?

    Exactly what will happen to the the people who were here before Jesus came and never got the chance to hear his message or see him for hundreds and thousands of years earlier. How do they achieve Salvation through Jesus? Just a thought.

  501. In revelations we read, which is, which was and which is to come. Lord God sent Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost.

  502. We shall take heed. As Jesus was ascending to heaven, the angels who were with him told His disciples who were gazing up the sky that this same Jesus would come back in like manner as he'd been taken up to heaven. And before he breathe His last breath after His crucifixion, He declared it is finish. The plan of Salvation is being laid. The cross is the way to heaven, the only atonement for the sins of the world. He'd commanded us to read the Scripture for it is which that testify of Him. He had also declared that He is the first and the last, the beginning and the end, the alpha and the omega. How then comes another new commandment after this? Who had sow the tare. And out comes wild grapes.

  503. The Bible and the Koran are two separate books. One contains the Word of God, while the other is a Counterfeit one, distorting the word of God, setting itself up as God because it wanted to be like God even from the beginning (read revelation). He is also known as Father of all lies or the great Deceiver bringing men to perdition. Since he cannot foil the plan of Salvation, his rage was to wage war upon the seeds of the Woman. Woman as we know in Bible represents the Church or the people of God. That is why we see this spiritual warfare battling so fiercely for supremacy because he knows his time is short. God's command is to bring the gospel of love to all the inhabitants of the earth and all nations and the end shall come.

  504. Here in the West, you don't even have to say Talak 3 times. The non Muslims just go and schag without marriage, so need for Talak 3 times. Just get up and go in the morning!

  505. SIR, YOU ARE NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE ENOUGH. YOU SHOULD TRAVEL AND READ MORE BEFORE YOU COME TO YOUR CONCLUTION.
    HERE IN MALAYSIA THE MUSLIMS CAN DIVORCE INSTANTLY BY JUST SAYING "I DIVORCE YOU BY TALAK 3" EVEN BY USING PHONE SMS.

  506. Sina was going to test me out – whether I had read his book or not . . . even on this petty and trifling matter . . . he couldn't show his face. I think I have waited long enough to either receive his invitation – or for him to accept mine.

    So when he claims . . . that Muslims don't read his book and lie about it . . . well I have tested that out . . . . it he HE who lies about it.

    After all – according to his own words – he would have had to apologize to me . . . well we couldn't have that!

    Then there are OTHER ridiculous lies of his . . . they are extremely childish. Why does he need to get involved in them? For example I sent him a book request – he didn't send the book – when I made noise about it – he said I had never asked for it . . . when I plainly had.

    Why?

  507. You are right . . . that is what I intend do . . . just recovering from a bout of illness. Watch this space . . . see how that book is unraveled.

  508. @Ali Sina. Like you didn't already know they were porn stars. Who you kidding?

    With the amount of copy and pasting you do from other websites, porn sites is second nature to you.

    And secondly, being non religious, it shouldn't impact on you should it, as no law or morality code says you shouldn't watch porn in your way of life. You've got nothing to lose when you do watch it, which no doubt you do, it's us theists that are the sinners and will be doomed and not you.

    ;)

    'Ali Sina and no porn'. That's another one for the books! LOL.

  509. “Just like Sunny Leone, Priya Rai, Angela Devi, Charmaine Sinclair, Nadia Nyce, Maya Bazin, Rasheen Kerim-Koram, Anjali Kara, Ariana Mistry, Destiny Deville, Leah Jaye, Peggy Sue, Samantha Shamal, Sahara Knite, Jazmin and Tiffany Taylor.”

    I did a search and found out these are all port stars. I must say you have quite an impressive knowledge of the porn world. Are you sure you are in the right site? Maybe you should go to where you can put your vast knowledge to some good use. I really don’t think you belong to this site. But of-course you may need to distract yourself for a while until your recover, after each masturbation.

    So you alternate between porn sites and my site. In porn sites you release your sexual tension and in my site you release your hate.

    There is more to life that releasing tension. But if you haven’t learned how to live by now, it is hard to start at this age.

  510. Yep and she bangs good. Some dude was giving it to her real good. I've added her to the favourites.

    Just like Sunny Leone, Priya Rai, Angela Devi, Charmaine Sinclair, Nadia Nyce, Maya Bazin, Rasheen Kerim-Koram, Anjali Kara, Ariana Mistry, Destiny Deville, Leah Jaye, Peggy Sue, Samantha Shamal, Sahara Knite, Jazmin and Tiffany Taylor.

    I'd bang the lot of them all at the same time and then one by one and then altogether again and still ask for seconds! And I'd use the Kama Sutra to get into some really fked up impossible positions.

    You are in the wrong job mate. You need to stop serving tea and start your own Desi Porn Promotion company!

  511. If you are a man, then a Taxi Driver, and that's after you sneaked in via the container in back of lorry route? You worked your way up from dishwasher, to butcher, to barber and now the taxi driver.

    Is that right eternity?

    Or did you marry a local bird and come in as a wedded husband, but still hit the taxi driver golden job.

    Cannot see you being anything else because judging by your comments, you have literally word for word spewed out exactly what every other Hindu on here who worships Ali Sina has spewed out. Can't see you being a Doctor, Lawyer or Bollywood actor.

    You have no measuring yardstick for humanity, and if you do, show us exactly what it is and by whom was it given.

    You pagans and idol worshippers are the enemies of civilization and thus must be treated in a manner which befits your folly.

    We are actually doing you guys the favour for even entertaining your views and comments. A teaboy does not hold the same power, respect or responsibility as the CEO of a company. And that is exactly what you Hindus similitude is. Tea boys!

    The man made gods that you worship were perverts and sickos. As a matter of fact exactly how can a human with an elephants head help you? Please tell us the secret. Or a dik (Shiv Lingham). Or some biatch with 6 arms? Come on, enlighten us with your BS on exactly how many gods you HIndus do have and why do they spend all their time fking each other?

    Isn't that the case, who fks who and whose dik is bigger than the others or whose b-o-o-b-s are bigger than the others. Exactly which one of your gods is the head honcho and top dog? You have so many that each one claims to be the boss. No wonder you guys are lost and will believe any story some prik makes up. You guys are used to myths.

    Exactly how many Gods do you Hindus believe there are? Please enlighten us.

    Furthermore, exactly how many blokes can Durga jerk off at the same time with all her arms? Now that would be something worth paying for!

    Imagine all your female gods in a gang-bang porn production. Bliss. You see, the more you delve into it, the more ridiculous Hinduism becomes. It's nothing but porn, like your Kama Sutra.

    Pervs

    ;)

  512. Hey dude did you search for zarina masood?

  513. Only 10-14% of the population in India is Muslim dimwit? So it is obvious the problems you Hindus face are of your own doing. You are the majority! Do you even understand what majority means?

    Do not mention isolated recent events and blame the Muslims. Look at historical events and then work them out in context and perspective. This is the problem with you a@@wipes. Just like your Guru Sina, you try to impress with home made BS assertions hoping everyone is as dimwitted and stupid as you guys who will lap it up like a rabid dog. Unfortunately for you, the majority of humans are normal and can work out 2+2=4 and not 7.3 as you guys would wish it to be.

    And as far as ghetto is concerned, my toilet is bigger than your whole house……..I mean your mud hut. No matter which way you look at it, you will always be inferior to us.

    And no, you guys don't kiss vagina, you kiss dik (shiv lingham) and a-s-s ( Ali Sina's). So in all fairness, we'd much rather kiss vagina, than suck dik and kiss a-s-s some blokes. :D

    I'm not saying it, you said it yourself. What a retard!

    Stick to serving the tea mate, stick to serving the tea, as this discussion is way above your pay grade.

  514. We don't kiss vagina like perverts. lolz
    You must also be knowing that muhammad was born long after his father's death hahaha
    which islamic ghetto you live in England?lolz
    I am talking about muzlees of india . They are parasites to our society . They destroy indian properties for the sake of bangladesi muslims
    btw did you check zarina masood.We work and earn money . you suck sheik chocobars and earn money that is the difference

  515. oh and by the way i am settled in the west. is there even a point in telling u which profession i belong to?

  516. god will even regard an athiest who spreads peace and tranquility as his messenger.
    sorry but what muhammad did was exact opposite.

    lastly u must agree if ur a decent human……… everyone no matter what his /her faith is , deserves to live with dignity and respect. ur faith must be the best in ur eyes, but it is then ur business only. u cannot force the world into believeing ur view. if u denigrate mine , i have the right to denigrate urs.

    ur answers to these will tell more about the kind of person u are.
    lastly yes english is my adoptive language but if u denigrate me for my typos ….. it just shows ur own mindset. r u muslim? to me u sound more like a nazi.
    if ur not then rather than reacting insultingly and violently …….. give me the proof that even after being a muslim, ur a decent person. where is it?

  517. do u believe osama is a prophet of god by the virtue of his being muslim?
    how do u reflect on his actions? do you think they wre fine?
    ur answer will be found in the answers of these questions themselves.

    the thing is i dont care if one is a hindu, muslim, christian, athiest ………. if one is a decent human being.

    if one is a dcent human being ( now u wud ask me to elaborate on being a decent human, i request u ask urself what that is……. the definition and criterion may differ from person to person ) but in my opinion if one does not intentionally hurt anyone of any faith, observes humanitarian rules and common societal rules ( not islamic sharia rules which are by far nto humane ) is a law abiding citizen and respects those less fortunate or less mightir than himself , he qualifies mroe as being a follower of god than one who ds exact opposite.

    ie just offer worship and indulges in rape, murder, arson, murders. if god is there and he is a true god hecan tell the difference. he wont be hoodwinked into believing that since a person is merely offering prayers to him, he can get away with anything and everything.

  518. Of course you have enough b'stards in India. You are one of them! Ever seen your father or heard his name. Exactly which passing Jogi was it?

    If it wasn't for the Arabs giving your people work in the Middle East, you fkers would be even poorer than you already are. Forget getting one meal a week, you'd be lucky to get one meal a month. Do you have any idea how much foreign remittance comes into India from your fellow slaves from the Middle East and are you aware of how many Indian Hindu slappers that dance in clubs are fk'ed daily by the Arabs?

    And I know it is very difficult for dung sniffing schit worshippers like you to understand, but Muslims are not paki or indian. They can be anyone from anywhere. Ever heard of white British Muslims dikwad and white European Muslims and white American Muslims all born and bred from their respective countries? Of course you haven't because you just about mustard up enough money to use the internet. I'm surprised you got electric where you come from.

    It's bottom of the barrel Hindu filth retards like you who think British means Brazil. You guys are so nasty we can smell you through the computers.

    You know Apple 5 is soon coming out, so how about worshipping that as your god? You've literally worshipped everything else in this universe as your gods, so why not add more?

    It's dumb a@@es like you that make our day when we hammer you about your worship anything but claim to be Atheist belief BS.

  519. Your spelling alone can tell everyone you are a Hindu pretending to be Atheist XYZ. Don't you get it. 99.9% of the posters here that follow Sina are Indian Hindus. You guys hold the monopoly for stupidity and hate mongering.

    What world are you taking about? You haven't gone past the local village boundary, as it costs too much rupees and you cannot afford it.

    What humanity and what human rights? The ones you have pinched from Islam and try to dress it up as your own.

    Now, educate me. How can one be an Atheist and on the same hand be a Prophet of God? Bearing in mind Atheists don't believe in God!

    You can take all the time in the world on this one, because you sure as hell are gonna need it.

  520. answeringislamphobes
    Tuesday 28 August 2012, 10:00 pm

    i suggest you capture these responses and create a blog out of it to share the knowledge with the rest of the world, putting in a comment section will only limit the exposure.It is time to create a one source responding to all these islamphobic attacks. I started collecting responses at answeringislamphobes.wordpress.com

  521. answeringislamphobes
    Tuesday 28 August 2012, 8:56 pm

    Everything i read so far is philosophical and quite frankly not intelligent at all. you focus on your narrow minded interpretation and ignore others. Plus you assume that you know more than God himself ?
    1)“Allah taught Adam all the names", Quran didn't say "all the names of the plants and animals.” You added that part from via your own interpretation.
    Next God the creator of this earth , heaven , sky , so is he NOT capable or not of teaching adams all names ? , again names here might be angel names, might be animal names , might be wahever but i note you prefer to take what support your islamphobic interpretation though.
    This remind with the article you wrote about pedophilia in Quran where you picked a verse about DIVORCE (not even marriage) and then you argued you way to say that an Absence of menstruation means children ignoring completely the fact the absence of menstruation mentioned in the noble verse presupposes a belated puberty known as primary amenorrhea, which could, with some femals, go as far as 20 years of age, this is undeniably a peculiar condition which the Noble Quran deals with in the clearest terms. Pick whatever serve your islamphobe causes.
    The rest of verses you posted are philosophical that i rather not waste my time on, but i may if i have some free cycle. I don't get paid for being an islamist , like you get paid for being an islamphobe.

  522. agreed sir. x&sup2; should have put before only.

  523. yes an atheist can be a prophet of god as long as he champions humanity and human rights.but such concepts dotn exist in ru part of the universe do they?
    i may be born as anything but ur in no position to speculate on my belief given my username which is not real. no prizes for guessing that much but again do u even have sense! ur a muslim!
    infact i am a skeptic by faith.
    whatever my position regards religion ………… u need to get that staright ,it is none of ur bussiness. u can worship allah or a dvil for all i care ………… but do nto try to forcibly impose that draconian religion of urs on the rest of us. it may be impossible for u to comprehend, but there IS WORLD OUTSIDE OF ISLAM. AND WE RE VERY HAPPY LIVING IN IT. IT IS NOT PERFECT BUT IT IS NOT EVIL AND DRACONIAN.
    GET THAT ? NO WLEAVE US ALONE.

  524. ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌
    Tuesday 28 August 2012, 7:09 pm

    Lack of common sense
    x2= x&sup2; != 2x

  525. you should also search for tehmeena and zarina masood ;)

  526. Ever heard of zarina masood?hahahaha
    She is also "british born". I don't know why muzzies like to call themselves british born . you are just another parasitic mullah lolzzz.
    but you didn't answer dead body sex in egypt inspired by muhammad .
    Atleast try to save your little girls from horny sheiks.
    They are too horny and produce fatwa for under age marriage . Lot of muslims from hyderabad sell their daughters to sheiks . Once they get bored they give talaq and they want to come back to India with their basta*d sons but we don't give them citizenship .
    Lot of arab born are still waiting to receive passport to india . but we don't want any bastards here.We already have enough

  527. @denialisnoproof. I couldn't care less about Pakistanis coming to India to get their land ploughed. Your sister-folk from India go the the Middle East, Europe, America and all over the West to get laid day in and day out. As a matter of fact, they are in demand in Amsterdam and stand in the shop windows ready for business spreading for anyone willing to pay the 50 Euros as we speak.

    Prostitution is part and parcel of your Hindu Faith as nasty and vile as your dung worshipping faith is, you still sell your women folk in the oldest profession of the world.

    Go and check out best-known red-light districts Sonagachi in Kolkata, Kamathipura in Mumbai, G. B. Road in New Delhi, Kashmiri Market in Agra, Reshampura in Gwalior and Budhwar Peth in Pune that host thousands of sex workers.

    You couldn't even produce a 'hard on' let alone a sentence in a foreign language. Wishful thinking on your part.

    What you seem to forget, I ain't Indian, Pakistani or Eastern like you illiterate barrel scraping enemies of civilizations. I am from the West, British born and bred and see smelly fkers like you daily getting their a@@es whooped.

    Ask your Priya Rai what god does she think of when she is getting banged by the pornstars? The Shiv Lingham by any chance? ;)

  528. Calculation is wrong
    x=y,
    2x=x+y

    So kindly do maths correct

  529. dude dont talk like your muhammad yu can be better than him.
    Tell me why did mullahs started crying ?
    We never cried .
    Do you know muhammad had become impotent and was trying enjoy ayesha just by fondling.
    By the way your muhammad asked fathima to breast feed adults .Shall i try your sisters ?religiously hahaha
    Do you know according to islamic sharia law in egypt it is ok to have sex with dead bodies?
    you know why muhammad had it too.
    Fathima bhutto,and all mujra pakistani girls come here and get their land ploughed . I was just trying to produce a sura like quran :-D

  530. @lonewolf. Not in your lifetime shirt-lifter. You are the real enemies of civilization.

    I propose we bang the living daylights out of your women folk and put it on the net……………….I forgot, someone already has and it is already up on the net. Desiporn.com

    LOL, at you retards.

  531. @denialisnoproof. Mate, I'd do Parvati and Sita at the same time whist you was looking on, and for free. Forget the 5 crore rubbish, I'd bang your Hindu women for free and get them to do each other for free.

    You Indians are anyone's, as long as the price is right, even if it means a freebie.

    Don't be talking about other countries, just take a look at your own first. Your Indian birds are ripe for the picking, and your latest being Sunny Leone the pornstar. She currently stars in Jism 2.

  532. Mr Ali you are second to your muhammad in being misogynist.
    you talk about priya rai ,why don't to you talk about nude mujra in islamic republic of pakistan?
    and rama didn't marry sita when she was 5 years old
    don't you know sheiks sleep with under age hyderabadi muslim girls in mutah marriage?
    and there is nothing called as idol worship in hinduism
    when you are meditating there is no idol ,if we thought idols were gods would we throw it in water after ganesha chatuthi?
    you are kidding the same vagina shaped stone since the time of your muhammad so please if you got guts throw it in the sea and prove that you are not idol worshoppers
    and yeah we gave full five crore to veena mallik (zayda) to strip naked
    and all you mullah bullahs started crying

  533. Way to go Yashodhara. An Atheist is the True Prophet of God?

    That just sums up why you Hindu idol worshippers are so intellectually stupid, blind, lost, deaf and dumb.

    And it's not Dr Ali Sina, it's Swami Ji Master Guru Nanak Krishn Ishvar Baghwan Ali Sina to the likes of you. Remember that when you next address him. Make sure you get his title right in full you a@@wipe.

  534. But I do understand Hindus like you though claiming to be Atheists?

    This site is rife with them!
    :D

  535. Don't worry Loki. You are not the first and definitely won't be the last. Like said to you before, we come across people like you dime a dozen.

    We call them enemies of civilization.

    A few little pushes and your true colours shine through brighter than the sun.

  536. ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌
    Monday 27 August 2012, 2:58 pm
  537. ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌
    Monday 27 August 2012, 2:55 pm

    I wonder if you don't want to waste your time and resources so why you keep replying?

    I did 3 hours extensive research on why don't you understand probability with common sense. Here is the secrete I wish to share with you !

    Before you have been conceived by your mom your dad made numerous attempts. Each attempt had equal probability out of two possible outcome. As it had to allot equal for both possible results, each one got 50% possibility. But all those attempts turn 0% before the last which turned 100% and you took birth. rest of history you know except this secrete.

    Considering all this happened before your birth and you never try to investigate logically further You failed to understand theory of probability with common sense.

    Why common sense is important ?!

    x = y

    x2 = xy

    x2 – y2 = xy – y2

    (x + y)(x – y) = y(x – y)

    x + y = y

    1 + 1 = 1

    2 = 1

  538. dr ali sina,
    are you alright ?? i first visited ur website faith freedom , i read it , fell in love with ur wisdom and ur beautiful mind and wanted to comment but i cudnt. i cudnt see any option. then i noticed the website has only archives till 2006.
    i was very worried as we all know what the blasphemy laws in ilam are!
    we dont react wehn an MF hussain paints paintings of our nude goddesses. we dotn reac when we disparage mother virgin mary but when rushdie writes satanic verses or a tasleema nasreen writes lajjja they r on the run of their lives.
    dr sina very impressed by ur work.
    ur the true prophet of god ( even though ur an atheist ) since u value humanity above blind faith.
    love you.

  539. No wonder you're an Islamoretard. :)

  540. "What . . by repeatedly not answering the questions I ask. . . your arguments tend to lead towards the same thing – hence I end up asking the same questions in return. You don't bother to answer."

    I did answer, but you considered my answer as "my agenda" and "repetition" and you judged them "useless, hot air" and such. Perhaps you did ask several times the same questions, so in a way I gave the same answers; my "agenda".

    a few points;

    - I like to answer you, in my own way, on issues and also by referring to relevant thoughts and the big picture.

    - With freedom of speech I mean that I feel free to respond in the way I like it, even if you discourage it. That even if I say nonsense that is still my right. Moreover, this is Ali Sina's website; you have the right to bother Ali Sina and I have the right to bother you. You have the right to then ignore me.

    Your talk about "shameless repetition" seems to me intended to discourage and devalue what I have to say. But I think "Repetition" is no shame at all, only you are free to ignore it.

    - An absolute private discussion is different from one on the internet. On the internet it is possible that others listen in. Hence it is possible to speak to but also "use" the discussion-partner to actually inform and impress "the audience".

    Moreover, I learn a lot from discussing, which I use later on. I even use negative criticisms and judgements from you to use and grow. I noticed often that you sometimes speak about "What Sina is saying, doing here" or "Ali Sina's lies and is unacademic", in response to Ali Sina himself.

    - There exists a style of communication that is called NON-VIOLENT COMMUNICATION, initiated by Marshall Rosenberg. He says that people should refrain from judging all the time and focus on what it is they like, desire or need the other person to do or stop.

    So: If I did not answer your questions, there may have been miscommunication. And you can start over and ask very specific questions and tell me what it is you like me to do. Without these continuous judgements. Because I need more clarity from you what your specific questions to me and what your specific needs are that you ask from me. It is my request to you.

    - But I already tried to explain that your apparently academic style of constantly bringing evidence, back-ups, references, is not mine. And we can agree to disagree and you can quit but I still have the right to comment on you. I put up The agreement to in future TO AGREE TO DISAGREE against your tendency to nullify almost all that is not properly referenced, backed up, which I think is absurd, too much to ask. Many of us assume the discussion-partner is a well-read, informed person, who already knows a lot about what we are talking. And who can discern much outright inaccuracy. The 21st century is a time with much information and much haste. People "twitter" a lot. They make statements without backing them up all the time.

    - I put it to you that you do not respond to "my agenda" as you call it. Not answering questions (and I asked a few too) and challenges is a mutual thing between us.

    Yes, You do quote what I say but then answer only in terms like "my agenda", "what do I care about your rules", "hot air", even "lies". It is my need that you actually address the points I bring up, not just mention, condemn and discard them.

    You did not "laugh" at me, but you did say; that I must take the consequence of being laughed at when I did say foolish things.

    It is hardly an alleged accusation when I say that you "Judge". You are a very judgemental person, towards Ali Sina and me. and any one can see that in almost every one of your comments.

    And THAT is a direct answer to your question "Why the alleged accusations. …?"
    So I do answer some of your questions/ challenges quite directly, and many more indirectly, relevantly. As good as, or I daresay better, then you answer mine.

  541. You don't understand even sarcasm LOL

  542. The point is, you can't just assert that 'odds' of one of two options happening is 50% unless you establish that the two options are equally likely.

    Unless you prove that, your claim of 50% advantage is just unsubstantiated hypothesis which isn't worth any more than an hypothesis that Prophet Muhammad pbuh had fathered 137 Camels.
    You can use endless ad-hominems,but you will still be wrong.

  543. I never read your pasted verses from Quran.I already maintain that everyone has access to that filth.Henmce no use wasting few kbs of space on filth here.

    The point is, you can't just assert that 'odds' of one of two options happening is 50% unless you establish that the two options are equally likely.

    Unless you prove that, your claim of 50% advantage is just unsubstantiated hypothesis which isn't worth any more than an hypothesis that Prophet Muhammad pbuh had fathered 137 Camels.
    You can use endless ad-hominems,but you will still be wrong.

  544. No I didn't talk of sequences.
    You did.You were referring to Bernoulli trials, remember?
    It's like you're talking about something which you don't know anything about and obviously making mistakes. And then pretending as if the other made it. LOL

    The point is, you can't just assert that 'odds' of one of two options happening is 50% unless you establish that the two options are equally likely.

    Unless you prove that, your claim of 50% advantage is just unsubstantiated hypothesis which isn't worth any more than an hypothesis that Prophet Muhammad pbuh had fathered 137 Camels.
    You can use endless ad-hominems,but you will still be wrong.

  545. There are 2 versions of this event. Also what Sina claims is of course totally false – I will post both later with translations. And discrediting this.

    As I have mentioned previously – Sina is unable to examine any references that he reads – from first hand perspective – neither does he bother to check up.

    This once AGAIN – he has copied from the Christians. . . . this is there argument!

    - – -

    Also the fallacy of cutting up an argument and twisting it to suit his own purposes – never worries him

  546. "So far you have read only 17 pages. Keep reading. You will find them. "

    All he had to do is . . . give few examples . . . which he fails to do.

  547. "So far you have read only 17 pages. Keep reading. You will find them. "

    Again . . . you keep up this

    - – -

    Sina has started to make these strange lies up . . . for example I had clearly emailed him to ask for the 4th edition book . . . yet he said I hadn't. I had point out – where in a one line email I had asked him for the BOOK!

    - – -

    Then his lie that I hadn't read his book – which he was going to prove . . . then he said – he was going to question me . . . .and if I passed this – he will apologize publicly here . .. I waited for him yesterday – all day.

    He didn't bother to respond . . . then he sent an email – saying that he will think up the questions and then invite . . .

    I was fully prepare to answer all questions . . . yet he is the one NOT responding . . .

    But he has kept up this little lie!

    - – -

    If you cannot respond properly . . . then why this pathetic drama?

  548. Here is the article. It is actually a book. http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/NaikCampbelli

  549. \”As I have already mentioned you haven\’t – so just to reiterate here is kind of pathetic \”

    So far you have read only 17 pages. Keep reading. You will find them.

  550. " I see no big need of examples and backup, ALL THE TIME. "

    No – the fact is YOU NEVER DO . . . you are a waffler . . . you waffle.

    - – -

    "And I admit that may be faulty. but it is also extremely cumbersome, slowing, downright annoying, and lacking in trust in humans to be smart and honest or well-read. "

    No – darling . . . its the only way . . . that is why – whatever you say is MEANINGLESS – if you claim something – then it your job to back it up . . . else i will call your claims BOGUS. Which I do . . . the thing is it never bothers you . . . after some time – you will simply REPEAT the same agenda.

    " it is not my way or the way of most people I know or observe. "

    This is OUT AND OUT LIE . . . i am calling YOU A LIAR.

    - – -

    "So I do move on, but totally relative to the discussion, always. "

    No you don't – you repeat the ONE agenda you have – over and over.

    - – -

    "You don't have to respond to me, even if I have the right to respond to you, like Ali Sina."

    What do you mean like Ali Sina . . . no one HAS to respond . . Sina will just look WEAK – which he is. Hence WHY he resorted to personal attacks – and SOME very very strange lies.

    - – -

    "And you may consider that we speak to other readers too, however few. As, no doubt, you not just aim your words at me, or Ali Sina, but to visitors as well."

    I can assure you – WHEN talking to YOU – I am JUST talking to you.

    - – -

    See – again YOU IGNORED WHAT I ASKED FROM ABOVE – AND RAN YOU OWN LITTLE AGENDA.

    ESPECIALLY YOUR PETTY ACCUSATIONS THAT YOU LEVELED AT ME – WHICH YOU HAVEN'T PROVEN . . . HENCE THEY WERE BOGUS – AND YOU WERE CLEARLY LYING . . .

    . . . RATHER THAN ANSWERING – YOU ARE CLAIMING THAT IT IS NOT YOUR "STYLE"

    WOW! WHAT A PATHETIC EXCUSE.

  551. "But I DO bother to read and think about what you say. But this is my way of answering. And BY GOD in my way I did answer relatively to what you wrote, in the most honest, you might even say, guileless, way. "

    What . . by repeatedly not answering the questions I ask. . . your arguments tend to lead towards the same thing – hence I end up asking the same questions in return. You don't bother to answer.

    - – -

    "I will also say that there is freedom of speech, and I use that, and there is nothing wrong with what I do say. "

    What the hell has "freedom of speech" got to do with anything . . . once again – you waffle on and on . . .

    I have simply said – if you are NOT going to answer anything – you find too difficult – or you are going to AIR that one agenda over and over and over . . . then dont bother to reply to me.

    It is useless and meaningless and time waste.

    - – -

    "You set up certain rules, which I was not even remotely aware of. "

    Again . . . I don't know what the hell you are talking about – what rules?

    - – - –

    "But I emphatically inform you here that I have vastly different, more relaxed rules of discussion."
    Again – what has that got to do with whatever I asked you . . . I don't bloody care about YOUR rules and whatnot.

    - – -

    You have ONE agenda – after some time – you repeatedly air that. . . I have even pointed this out before – however you shamelessly repeat it.

    Just look at how much time you spend waffling on about – rules and your memory and whatever else. . . why bother?

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    "So be it. you have the freedom to judge and laugh all you want "

    Touche . . . . when have I *laughed* at you . . . if not – why the alleged accusations . . . ?

  552. "This is just about Sina – and his work."

    Yes, but either in 1 or 2 ways; partially or totally. If it is partially, bit by bit, what you say seems highly valid, backed-up, reasoned, logical, hard to refute, although not perfect.

    But you have to admit that that is only partial and based on that you refrain from making sweeping statements about him and his work.

    And instead of asking me to refer to what you wrote, which is YOUR STYLE, but not mine, which I NEVER ask you to provide ME. Without which I think I can still carry on an honest and meaningful debate,

    can you right now answer that you only very PARTIALLY have examined, refuted and judged his work and do not make judgments and recommendations as if you studied his total work?!

    But you have not begun to scratch the surface, so to speak. To review him totally and comprehensively you are in it for a very long haul, and you almost have to write a book.

    And I doubt that it is reasonable to demand proof of agreement between Ali Sina and other writers, who I refer to as Counter-Jihadists, like Robert Spencer, David Wood, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, when this is so abundantly clear, and referenced to by themselves, and often by their opponents as well. Of course they have their differences, but how can you reasonably doubt their agreements? to me it is absurd to doubt everything for lack of back-ups, and examples, evidence. And any way, when is that ever going to be enough for you? When have you ever responded to Ali Sina in this way; Oh, Ali Sina, in this particular case you did provide enough and good enough back up, examples, evidence? I think you never did that. If you ever did it, please provide reference.

    And all this time we know that no such scrutiny is put on the originators of Islam, also mere humans, not all so scientific, logical, developed, honest, unbiassed, forthcoming with evidences and sources as one (you?) might wish. Falling back as they did, on Revelation, not Reason.

  553. "The things is – I give EXAMPLES and backup what I say. . . what do you do? You always make claims – when I challenge – you don't have an answer – you simply move on . . . you have DONE that time and time again. "

    And there you have our BIG difference, AminRiadh. I see no big need of examples and backup, ALL THE TIME. And I admit that may be faulty. but it is also extremely cumbersome, slowing, downright annoying, and lacking in trust in humans to be smart and honest or well-read. it is not my way or the way of most people I know or observe.

    So I do move on, but totally relative to the discussion, always.

    If my style is no good for you, no problem, I hope you find responders more to your liking. You don't have to respond to me, even if I have the right to respond to you, like Ali Sina. And you may consider that we speak to other readers too, however few. As, no doubt, you not just aim your words at me, or Ali Sina, but to visitors as well.

  554. ᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌᠌
    Sunday 26 August 2012, 4:39 pm

    So I should live in Pakistan and Afghanistan to understand Islam or humanity ??? lol

    Well according to you this is logical proof ! Hopeless stupid grow up and limit your hatred to improve yourself.

    Why should you have pain up in ass for what people believe or not ? Healthy mind doesn't fear laws !

  555. But I DO bother to read and think about what you say. But this is my way of answering. And BY GOD in my way I did answer relatively to what you wrote, in the most honest, you might even say, guileless, way.

    Like Ali Sina I also do and did admit to partiality on my side. I too, of course, have prejudices, prior beliefs. but I have a good memory and very often I recollect something someone else said and understand it better later on.

    What I am used to is talking, debating in such a way that both sides get to say what they want, in equal measure. No one has to convince the other. We can agree to disagree.

    Look, while I will read you again and think about what is LACKING in my ANSWERS to you, like examples, and going in depth into issues you raised, and try to remedy that,

    I will also say that there is freedom of speech, and I use that, and there is nothing wrong with what I do say. It is entirely valid what I do. At least where I come from and in the vast majority of my discussions, and those I have witnessed between others, including those on TV between accomplished politicians.

    You set up certain rules, which I was not even remotely aware of.

    But I emphatically inform you here that I have vastly different, more relaxed rules of discussion. Vastly less dependent on showing examples, backing statements up. Vastly more about agreeing to disagree. And accepting that a person came to a conclusion with a minimum of thinking well, experience, gut feeling, honesty. And taking it from there.

    So be it. you have the freedom to judge and laugh all you want

    or to react not at all.

  556. Wrong site Marwa.

    Asking these Islam haters to read the Quran is like asking an elephant to do a back one and a half somersault reverse two and a half somersault flying forward one and a half somersault pike back dive half twist straight position armstand back double somersault tuck dive.

    And we all know the answer to that!