Reverting Back to Islam?

Reverting Back to Islam?

Asalaam,

You all may know me from the title of M Y, i posted my apostasy in your ffi column i which i got lots of motivating response.  Still i see my post in your web in front home page.

Yes this is true i left Islam for good after 7 yrs of being in your site and with facts of rationality that you have did hard work to prove that Islam is lie.

I found that when you prove Islam is all lie, its so interesting to read and to accept because you convince with rationality not with pocket words.

Problem comes in reality.  I don’t know about you and many but there are people like me too who needs faith.

In short after leaving Islam , i looked after many faiths like Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism and humanism (although its not a faith).

Because i was one time practicing Muslim who loved his sweetness of faith, therefore i did not found any sweetness in other faith like Islam.

No matter on what foundation its based on but still i believe the one who is born with any religion become his/her part of life.

You were in in canada when you left Iran, so you can practice your humanism without going to mosques, praying, fasting and all Islamic pillars.

But i stay in a country where we used to enjoy Ramadan, eid , praying going to mosques , its not only environment but its all culture which matters.

You just  cannot throw easily a religion and culture which you have born with.  I am not hypocrite whatever i do i do not by pretending.

Maybe you can pray behind your uncle just to show him and make him happy as he is the old man, but i cant do.

In short i learned lot from your site that at least being Muslim i will never force my religion on others and believe in humanity but i cant stop namaaz,   and all islamic duty.

If there is no GOD so no problem i love my faith i will follow it and if GOD who is not ALLAH then why did he made me born with Islam ?, if he don’t like it.

Anyway i know you say the problem with Islam is that does not bring peace but hate and its religion of shaitan because its forces people.

Mr Sina i have seen people dying with cancer who were believers and non believers at end everyone remembers there god, there faith.

And i come to believe that’s what it counts leaving all doubts behind.

I don’t wish but what if you got cancer and your pain is unbearable and you are about to die will you not remember GOD forgetting your all doubts ?.

Many people have tried to reform Islam let us do too, forgetting her past history we can make our religion now of peace by joining other faiths in unity.

No one is perfect you will always find one good thing in person following humanity and one bad thing too like-vise in any person following Islam.

It will not cost you to keep your faith Islam with you as long as you believe in peace not in violence .

In bible too there are lots of verses of violence but most Christians follow humanism.

I know you will not like this but i am back to my new reformed Islam where i love sweetness of my faith.

You can leave your life and can convince others but know that its different in real word you cannot pretend every time there is guilt felling too.

And don’t forget death which we all have to face one-day, so let everyone believe with whatever they are born with and thats a humanity too..

Take care.

 

 Dear Yasin,

I empathize with your feelings. I went through the same processes.  In fact I wrote a long article about my journey from belief to enlightenment, which I titled Seven Valleys From Faith to Enlightenment.

Your feelings are legitimate. Our emotions have a much stronger hold on us than our rational thoughts.  Our prefrontal cortex, which is responsible for our focus, planning, abstract thought, empathy, judgment and insight, is very new.  It first appeared in primates and culminated in human brain.

Hominid brains have evolved and grown from 400g in just 3-4 million years, to their present size of 1400g (1.4kg).  Homo sapience, i.e. us, is believed to have emerged only 100,000 years ago.  The Homo erectus, who lived 1.7 million years ago and had a body not much smaller than us, had a brain half of the size of our brain.  Most of the growth of our brain has taken place in our prefrontal cortex. That is where our rational thoughts are generated.

Our emotions are generated in the limbic system. The limbic system can record memories of agreeable and disagreeable experiences.

The limbic system emerged in the first mammals.  The first mammals evolved from therapsids (“mammal-like reptiles”) at the end of the Triassic period.  That is about 248 to 206 million years ago. Yes mammals co-existed with dinosaurs, but of course they were tiny in size, like mice, so they were in no danger by those giant beasts.

This old limbic system is the seat of the value judgments that we make, often unconsciously, that exert such a strong influence on our behavior.

Our prefrontal cortex is what questions, judges and evaluates the truth and falsehood of a belief and accepts or rejects it on a rational level.  However, this is only true if the belief is not rooted in our emotions. For example, a scientist may hold a belief about an area of science and he may have dedicated the best part of his career to prove a theory. But once that theory is refuted, sometimes by the scientist himself, he will readily toss it away and will no longer hold unto it.

Religious belief is deeply rooted in emotions. It brings to mind memories of joy, euphoria, friendship, of waking up in early mornings to eat and pray, the moment of iftar which was more than just eating but of expectation and reunion. The fuzzy feeling of having obeyed God and attaining his pleasure. Memories of childhood and of Ramadan, of friendships we formed in the mosque. All these feelings are generated in our limbic system.  This is a much more ancient brain than our impersonal, calculative and rational prefrontal cortex and therefor it is stronger.

Which memories are more enduring and more significant in your life? The ones pertaining to your childhood, when you were shown love and affection or perhaps abused and mistreated or when you learned how to calculate the root square of a number? Of course memories that involve our emotions are more significant to us.

Religion has very little to do with reason and a lot to do with emotions. It affects our limbic system more than it does our prefrontal cortex. And our limbic system has a greater hold on us than our rational mind.

Feelings are stronger than reason.  But not for long! Eventually reason overcomes emotions. In Aesop’s story of the race between rabbit and turtle, rabbit is faster but at the end the turtle wins the race, because he is more steady and persistent. Emotions are like the rabbit and reason is like the turtle. Reason never relents. It is very stubborn. At first emotions seem to be winning, but eventually reason wins the race.

If you think you miss the emotional fuzziness that you used to receive as a believer go ahead and immerse yourself in Islam. It is my belief that after sometimes you will give up. That is my experience. After the initial shock that I received when I learned the truth about Islam, I tried my best to cling to my faith. I prayed more fervently. I wanted to regain my faith.  After two years of dismal failure I realized I am only trying to fool myself and gave up trying. It took me two years to accept I am not a believer anymore.

I compared this period to when Adam ate from the tree of knowledge and his eyes were opened. He could see the truth that he was naked and as the result he was kicked out of the paradise. That paradise was the paradise of ignorance. Once you eat from the tree of knowledge and your eyes are opened, you can no longer stay there. He saw himself naked because everything he thought to be true was not.  He saw himself as the emperor  with the invisible clock and the deception of it all.

I clung to those closed gates for two years until I accepted the reality that I can’t go back.  I had to find my own way and earn my living with the sweat of my brow. In other words seek knowledge through my own efforts and not rely on someone providing it for  me.

When you are a believer, you don’t have to search for the truth. All the answers are provided for you in a book. To understand how the world came to be, you consult that book. To decide how to treat other humans you read that book. To find how to run your daily life and the best way to govern the society, you read that book. Islam goes even further and tells you what to eat and what not to eat, how to dress, how to brush your teeth, how to defecate, urinate and copulate. When you leave your religion, you have to rely on science, on conscience and on commonsense to find the answer to your questions. This is the interpretation of the metaphor of earning your livelihood with the sweat of your brow.

The movie Matrix depicts the same story in a science fiction film. You and I have taken the red pill. We have seen the truth. Not knowing the truth was more pleasant, but it is too late for us.

So go ahead and give your best shot and see if you can go back. See if you can unlearn what you have learned.  I tried for two years and failed.  I know others who did the same and they too failed. Let me know if you succeed. Once a child is born he cannot go back to the womb again.

Do I miss the belief in God? I confess that I do. This is now 18 years that I am an atheist. But I would not hesitate to become a believer if God if only I could. About three years ago my sister called and gave me a terrifying news. She said, she may lose her daughter. A tumor had been found in the fourth ventricle of my beautiful 22 years old niece. This is a cavity between cerebrum and brain stem – the most sensitive place in human body. Her father is a psychiatrist and knows about the brain. He told my sister to be prepared for the worst. You can imagine the devastation that this news caused to everyone. My sister said, please pray. I said, to whom? She said Ali, I need to believe or I will go mad..

I went out and walked by the sea with a huge pain on my chest.  I wanted to do something, but there was nothing I could do. If I believed in God I could pray and satisfy myself that I did what I could. That is when I realized how lucky the believers are.  The feeling of helplessness is overbearing. The belief in God is a fantasy, but it is a beautiful fantasy that helps us overcome hardships, gives us hope and a sense of belonging.

(The operation was successful and the tumor was benign. My niece is perfectly fine.)

Belief in God can help patients live longer.  According to a new study, post-operative patients with religious faith have a better survival rate than those without such beliefs.

Daily Telegraph  reported A research  found that people who were actively “seeking God” fared better than those who did not hold religious faith, regardless of which faith they held.   Even patients who did not attend church were up to three times more likely to survive by having a “strong religious connection.

Dr Franco Bonaguidi, who led the study, said the study found patients with “high religious coping” who actively sought “God’s help” and trusted their beliefs had a “more prolonged post-transplant survival than patients with low religiosity. We found that an active search for God, (where) the patient’s faith in a higher power rather than a generic destiny, had a positive impact on patient survival,” he said. Dr Bonaguidi added that it was, “the personal relationship between the patient and God, regardless of religious creed rather than formal church attendance that positively affected survival.” The specific religious beliefs held by a person did not appear to matter.

I don’t believe in God because I can’t. Muhammad would say my heart is sealed. I believe my eyes are opened. Whatever the case I know that I can’t become a believer and that is despite my wish.  I envy the believers. I have never tried to persuade others to give up belief in God. I am not an atheist crusader. Furthermore, I don’t see atheism contributing any improvement in human conduct. It does not make us more ethical or more moral. It is more rational. Reason is important, but there are other factors that are also important, such as love, altruism, hope and friendliness. Different religions emphasize on these factors differently. In Islam there is not much love and altruism, and friendliness is limited to fellow believers. But there is hope – the hope for the afterlife. This hope may be a fallacy but it is still hope and hope is good.

If you can and want to believe in God, I suggest you choose a god that is a god of love. Follow a religion that promotes altruism, is inclusive and not exclusive, and does not advocate the hatred of the outsiders. Islam does not fall into that category. Islam is a religion that promotes hatred and violence against non-believers. The word kafir is derogatory. It means one who covers. In fact “cover” and “kafir” are etymologically connected. Kafir is one who knows the truth and hides it. This is an insult. It is stupid to believe people know the truth and reject it. Narcissists think like that. Since Islam is the brainchild of a narcissist, it denigrates the disbelievers and calls them kafir.  You did not become a kafir when you found the truth about Islam and left it. But now that you know that truth and try to cover it, you have become a kafir. (What I say is true, but I am only teasing you).

It is true that it is easier for one who lives in the west to leave Islam. I could go to churches and I did. I had read the Bible and it did not appeal to me, specially the Old Testament. I was not going to churches in the search of truth. I knew I can’t find the truth in any church, synagogue or temple.  I needed human contact and company. I found a Mennonite church, which was great. After the highly lively sermons, the music and the choir there was lunch. I paid just the cost of the food, very little money, and had as nice meal that I could eat in the company of others. Each week I sat at a different table and met new people.  In the evenings there was youth activity, music and songs. And sometimes they organized outings, such as hiking and sport. There were Bible studies. Since I knew the Bible better than others I often explained it to them. I never told them I don’t believe. I was not going to spoil their fun and I also enjoyed seeing the joy in their faces. Then I moved to another city and did not look for another church.

Unfortunately, living in an Islamic country you can’t have that kind of experience. Yes there is a lot of sweetness in other faiths too.  You can’t taste them because you approach them rationally, while your approach to Islam is emotionally.

Going back to the mosque is your only option.  Go ahead. Eventually you will accept that you don’t belong there.  This can take a few months or a few years. When the time is right for you, you’ll resign to that fact.

One day, when standing for prayer, I paused and told myself, what the hell are you doing? Who are you trying to fool? From thereon, I realized I can’t go back.

There is another very important point that you must remember. Many Muslims are terrorists. They kill innocent people all over the world.

Yesterday the Taliban Muslims shot Malala Yousufzai, a 14-year-old girl activist and nearly killed her. Her crime was to expose the Taliban’s atrocities and advocate for girls’ education. Malala was shot in the head and neck.

Who is responsible for this crime? The Taliban? No! the Taliban are practicing the true Islam. You and other Muslims who go to the Mosque and keep this religion of hate alive are responsible. The Taliban see this and believe Islam is the fastest growing religion and hence they conclude that it must be true. If it is true why not practice it the way Muhammad intended it to be practiced?

If people stopped going to the mosque and mosques become empty, these fools will lose their steam and will not be so eager to kill innocent people.

Any time Islam is perceived as strong Islamic terrorism (jihad) becomes virulent.  Any time you go to the mosque remember you are indirectly promoting Islam and have a share in the spread of Islamic terrorism. If after this you can live with your conscience, go ahead and pretend to be a Muslim.

What made Hitler strong? It was the huge masses who went to listen to his speeches. if these people did not go and by their presence did not show their support of that madman, would he have dared to start the war and kill so many people?  Hitler was a madman.  You can’t expect responsibility from a madman. The ultimate responsibility was on the people who supported him.

When the Islamic revolution happened I was not in Iran. But I met many people who had escaped after the revolution. They said they did not know a thing about Khomeni and the revolution. They were not interested in politics at all. They just went to the streets because it was fun. It was a novelty. They sang a few taboo slogans which in itself was exiting and there was no danger, because the Shah had ordered his soldiers not to shoot at the crowd.  Without knowing, they made that revolution happen and not only they paid for their stupidity, their children are still paying for it.

Any time you go to the mosque, you are supporting a terrorist cult. What you feel inside does not count. Your presence is evidence of your support for Islam and an encouragement for the Taliban and other terrorists.

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  1. I know how you feel Mr. Sina. I am an atheist too, but when I feel utterly helpless, I too long to pray to God, badly. But I don't know any God who seems to be true. Even if the Islamic God really existed I will still stand up against Him, for demeaning the women and good non-Muslims so much!

  2. It is all about "hidaya." It is all about guidance from Allah. Recently I saw newspaper reports about conversion to Islam of notable Islam haters in the Netherlands and Switzerland. Check this link http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2790/europeans-….

    These are Europeans, who have been living in one of the most prosperous, most free, most educated part of the world. And they decided to embrace Islam. What is your reaction to this?

  3. It is all about "hidaya." It is all about guidance from Allah. Recently I saw some newspaper reports about conversion to Islam of notable Islam haters in the Netherlands and Switzerland. Check this link http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2790/europeans-

    These are Europeans, who have been living in one of the most prosperous, most free, most educated part of the world. And they decided to embrace Islam. What is your reaction to this?

  4. Because NOW the world have gained critical mass, resources and people with brilliant thoughts to eliminate Islam and its teachings… reason ? of several evil, the WORST should be eliminated first… and Islam fits the WORST criteria

  5. Now go kill your History teacher.

  6. This is just a thought…why are you just pointing out how wrong Islam is….Why not talk about other religion….

  7. Sweet fruit? I love grapes but I hope it will not be just grapes.

  8. Ali sina sir, you are exposing islam, you are presenting the truth…God will definitely give you the sweet fruit…

  9. islam and the christianity the lies

  10. Where is empty set, Agracean, Aminriadh, Ali, & others. Did anybody sprayed insect Repellant???

    Where they are hidden?

  11. Can anyone teach me how to put long comment in one piece?

  12. Julia,

    How's that?? Please rate my reply from 1 to 10.

  13. Sorry for mistake, meteor would be meteorite.

  14. Show me if you have better understanding. Once again it is proved that: Beating empty drum does not produce skyscrapers. Staying long in the darkness, the darkness seems illumination. For ignorants, ignorance is the wisdom.
    If Muhammad could get his mental illness cured help does not mean we all should deprive ourselves of medical treatment.
    “Those who have gift of self-delusion do not require opium, and they do not need wings who have a gift of self-complacency”.

  15. How can man utilize a meteor for his use? How old is the sun? Is there life in the planet very similar to earth, 20 light years away? If you can answer this question, then definitely I and many ex-muslim and non-muslims with me will accept Islam as the best religion. Else you are one of those people in the mental asylum who think they are Napoleon, Hitler or Alexander. Remember, Love is something everybody feels, for some way or the other, someone or the other, sometime of the other. This is why Love cannot be called subjective. But the idea of God and so called better understanding of the universe is completely objective, based on personal assumption, superstition or neurosis.

  16. Dear empty Set,
    Don’t be happy and jubilant so early. The reason why I requested Sina sir to answer was I want it as a separate article for your ‘superiority complex’ question. Furthermore I got an internet problem at my home system and I could not see your comment for three days, I could write small message from my cell phone. Sorry for a delayed reply. Even if you are right about your ‘better understanding of universe’ comment, then also it does not prove that Islam is not an atrocious cult or Muhammad was not a lustful criminal. You took the advantage of God’s name and universe to prove Islam is right. Even if there is God still Islam is actual shithole. Since 1400 years people of ‘better understanding of the universe’ like you have walked on earth, tell my how many of them contributed in the progress of science and innovation and research. ‘None’. Where have gone their ‘better understanding’? Ok, you tell me if you have ‘better Understanding’ that, Is there life in the venus?.

  17. @Julia… are you a muslim posing as a non-muslim? The reason I ask is because I have on many occasions asked you to stop being disrespectful and hateful to other posters here and you continue to do it (as if you are deliberately trying to make this site seem like it is full of muslim haters in an attempt to scare away muslims who could be seeking to be set free from the bondage of islam). Your hate-filled posts are very offensive to me, a non-muslim, so I can imagine it must be offensive to muslims… do you care? Is it your goal to make people leave this site, or not even stay long enough to get the truth they need to be freed from islam??? If it is not, then PLEASE stop insulting people here. Most muslims are in a very sticky situation, and they need to be shown logic, over and over again.. not hate and ugliness… which is what I see in your posts all the time…

    It's just not cool…

    J Stillwater

  18. Thank you Abid very first you didn't want to respond to me and at the moment you don't want to respond to me again! Only reasons have been changed but this is not the end.

  19. Dear Ali Sina,

    Only you can give a better answer for the comment above from Empty Set, who says as there is no evidence of Love, there is no evidence of realization. I could write but I think here it is required your properly ornamented gems of words which enlightens even the dumbest.

    Thanks and regards,
    Abid

  20. Dear Maria,

    If you believe something firmly, it is going to happen, if you have a complete faith on a tree, the tree is going to help you and fulfill your desires and help you in lurch. If you faith in Allah gives you satisfaction and peace of mind, then it doesn't mean Allah really exist. Millions of peole gets peace of mind form worshipping trees or phallus and stone. Then it doesn't mean these objects are God or Allah. Peace comes from your faith. George Bernard Shaw said: A believer is happier than a sceptic is no more than a point that a drunken man is happier thana sober one.

  21. You people make yourselves fool by calling everyone as enemy of Islam or trick of America or Israel, and definitely from now after tmy this comment you'll call me as the man of Ali Sina or his brother. But I would defintely say 'YES' we are brothers united to fight ignorance, to swipe the filthe which has been gathered in your mind since 1400 years.

    Bye,
    Take care of mental health

  22. Mr. Blank Set,

    I have been reading your comment for a quite long time but I did not responded you, may be because I thought that you are not worthy of response. If you can read any language of the world, then read once again Quran and Hadith in that language with an unbiased mind without your Islam possessed mind. You'll get the truth, whether Islam is muck or not and Muhammad was a criminal or not. Without knowing your name and without looking your face I can tell you never read 'any' means 'ANY' single book out of the your DOGMATIC, HORRIBLE , BLOODY, NONSENSE Islamic books, that's why you are not able to understand between humanity and barbarism. You are still immature to differentiate between right and wrong, true and false, evil and good. You are still entrapped into the mental cage your father and elders put you in.

  23. Dear Abid, Richard Dawkins has removed the reference to my site in his book. He has removed any link to faithfreedom.org from his site. Many asked me why and I had no clue. When I came to learn about his views on politics it became clear to me that we stand on two different poles. He is a hard core liberal and I am a conservative. He attacks every religious candidate and belittles them. To me that is very Islamic behavior. I would vote for anyone as long as he is a capable leader and can create jobs and make America strong so rogue countries do not pose a threat to the world peace.

  24. I would request you to make compromise and understand each other. Every one cannot be of same temperament or disposition, though they are all atheist or all beleivers. Some may be more tolerant some may be not. So what if RD is a bit intolerant towards religion, every religion is! You cannot cut a iron without an iron. You both are very talented people, unite and be stronger to fight ignorance. You teach him something, he teaches you something, afterall we are all human beings not God(imaginary). I just know you both are atheist, both are against religion and fanaticism. I don't think RD is not so dumb that he could not recognize the benefits of religion. Please give a second thought to my this request.
    And definitely if you do not appreciate him he would not write your site name in his books, isn't it? Would you?

    With Love, Respect, and Best wishes to you(Ali Sina),

    Regards,
    Abid Ali

  25. Dear Ali Sina,

    Remember, you responded to two my mails with few questions answered. I would like to thank a lot to you. I am happy that you made time, read my mails, responded. But today when I read this page I learnt that you do not appreciate Richard Dawkins, I felt bad about because it is his book through which I learnt about this site(FFI.org) and also learnt a lot about Islam and truth.

  26. what is wrong with your mohammad? too weak to curse Ali himself?

    mohammad is burning in hell fire drowning in the blood of the innocent.. how many people do you have to kill mitu? 6 billion other people on the planet that all coming to learn that mohammad is a criminalz/

  27. So are you going to offer same challenge to "son of Hamas" …

    Why would the son of muslim royalty leave islam and call mohammad a false prophet?
    http://youtu.be/cHq25tnZoFs

  28. Still no reaction of aminriadh and zitouni on the comment of their CULT- BROTHER mitu.

  29. I feel bad for this revert. you're only going back to islam because you feel that it's easier to go back than stand by what you believe in. There are many Christians and Jews living in Muslims countries who are persecuted everyday for their faiths, yet they never turn back because it's not too easy. Each to his own faith, I guess but going against the crowd will never be easy; just remember that.

  30. Ali here is my challenge.

    I am ready to respond to your challenge but on condition of course:
    1) I dont insult you , you dont insult me
    2)we find a moderator and two judges to our debate.
    3)you give the 50k to the moderator to give to the winner.
    4) we only use authentic proofs and nothing else.
    5) one topic at a time.

    DONT WORRY EVEN IF YOU LOSE THEY WILL NOT SEND YOU BACK TO IRAN

  31. SO THE QUESTION REMAINS WHY THE WORD "PRAY"… TO WHOM DOES ALLAH "PRAY" ?? Otherwise he should have used the word BARAKA IF HE MEANT "BLESS "

    To nobody . I told you 10000 times that prays on ( sala ala ) means God send his salutation and his mercy thats what it means in Arabic

    We use the same verb during funeral prayer (we pray on dead Muslim ) why do ignorant arab christians did not acuse us of worshipping dead people . so you cannot understand the verb sala ala in God case with prophet as an act of worship and at the same time you understand the same verb sala ala in funeral prayer in different way . You cannot have it both ways . You just an easy meat for Arab christians whose knwoledge of Arabic Archaic is very poor

  32. why are they using the word Allah then ???

  33. Shmon is just another confused ignorant christian who knows nothing about Islam . Find me real scholar of Islam if you want to convince me

  34. I just said that in Arabic bible they have Allah so ask them to take it out then when they do you wil have point

  35. son of a muslim sl@t , i keep my swear words specially for b@stards like you.

  36. I think Obama is Muslim friendly who believe in Islam somehow.

  37. To say Earth is like Ostrich Egg is Blasphemy !!

  38. That is why they do not take risk of giving Voting Rights to others in their Majority Countries

  39. So you do not claim Your Prophet is Last Messenger, & your Version of God is True God!

  40. Phoneix !

  41. Send a e-mail to Ali Sina at faithfreedom2@gmail.com and attach the articles. Make sure to recieve a response from him. If he doesn't respond within 2-3 days, then send him another e-mail.

  42. Dear Friends I have translated this article in Tamil where can i sumbit it please advice
    thanks
    regards

  43. This is a very nice article woven wonderfully. The problem with human beings are that they donot want to admit limitations of the capability of their brains. It is presumed that we can understand everything and that belief forces us to take sides as we dont want to admit that we donot know. Theism is a belief and atheism is also a belief. Both are stories, one is a positive story and another is a negative story. Science though it has given wonderful discoveries and made our life very comfortable may never be able to define God even if it exists. They have not been able to define nature of light in last three hundered years calling it waves and particles alternatively. Now they have decided to admit light having a dual nature, sometime wave and sometime particle. Light has to have one nature which should explain both particle and wave behaviour, but our brain which is limited in its capability to realise that peculiar nature can not visulise it. If we can not understand light, how would we understand God even if he is present.

  44. Sina Sir as expected wonderful piece of litrature, your writings are just super love reading anything and everything that you write. Lots of Love . Nice to Know your niece is fine now.

  45. OK This is a new rule from higher authority . This automatically override rules from lower authorities.

    10 comments if you are the only talking person .
    Extra 2 comments per reply you get from Muslims or extra 1 comment per reply you get from anti-Muslims.

  46. You are right Ali Sina It is YOUR webside, so what can I do or say.
    It is very difficult for me to keep it to 5 replies .
    But I am really furious about these TAQIYYA muslims, who think that can bully FREE people and think that we FREE people will buy their OBVIOUS LIES !

  47. You also threatened to ban me once..lol
    What about that ? Have you changed your mind or you are ashamed of your mistake ?

    Banning Julia is an attempt to hide behavior of many such Islamophobes !

  48. I asked you to not post more than five comments per day. You have a habit of ignoring my requests. I will ban you for one week starting from tomorrow. You can start posting on Saturday 10th of November. If however you continue I will bad you for good.

  49. For a long time now within Judaism and Christianity there is no deathpenalty for apostasy. It in unheard of for ever so long among them. and for ever so long many did indeed apostasize among them.

    But for Islam it is another matter. In surveys big parts of Muslims, especially in Egypt and Pakistan and such Islamic Nations, are in favor of the deathpenalty for apostasy.

    Do YOU really think this deathpenalty for apostasy is ordered by Allah??? But that is sooooo unfair, Allah also gave us brains to investigate and search for the truth. And you may have been one-sidedly brainwashed by your fellow-Muslims.

    In America, many Muslims were asked to sign the FREEDOM PLEDGE, it came from the FORMER MUSLIMS, in which it was asked to declare against the deathpenalty for apostasy. Almost all Muslims in America declined to sign it. Why? Only the Muslim Zuhdi Jasser did.

    Look Maria-Islamic, these are your fellow-Muslims. And you do not somehow create an organisation that separates from them, makes you different from them, so what these other Muslims think reflects on you and tarnishes you!

  50. Hello Aminriadh :-)
    You said:" Sam Shamoun – is a common one – long know to everyone. A Christian whose JOB it is to lie about Islam – he does that extensively. "
    —————————–
    Well, it must be EASY then for you to show this "LIAR" that he is completely wrong about the "SALAH"-problem . We are ALL very curious ! Refute the claims (and mine) he makes in the references I gave you ! Sorry for my taqqiya-trick. But , to say the truth (!) you (muslims!) needed it ! :-)

  51. I never dropped Botros. I admire that HERO !
    And he is STILL RIGHT. Come on let's see how smart you are ! REFUTE SAM SHAMOUN'S writngs I gave you !! Hahahahaha

  52. OF COURSE YOU ARE GOOD,YOU ARE AN "ÜBERMENSCH"- NAZI one of the "best of creation!!" :-) We all know that .
    But now : REACT ON THE REFERENCES I GAVE YOU…..If you dare.
    All readers think that you are RUNNING. So …give your SMART ANSWERS ! HAHAHA
    REFUTE THE WRITINGS OF SAM SHAMOUN.
    Otherwise the readers will think that you are a loser ( a muslim !).

  53. WE WANT YOUR REACTION ON YOUR PEACEFUL BROTHER MITU !

  54. To the EVIL MOHAMMEDAN TAQIYYA MUSLIM AminRAT.
    NOOOOOO…..ANSWERS YOU LITTLE RAT !!! Hahahaha So try again:
    DON'T forget to read the references I GAVE you, ….AND TO SEE THE VEDEO-CLIPS !!
    If you DARE ! :-)
    The READERS ARE SURELY WAITNG FOR YOUR ANSWERS !!!
    So don't try to run or to divert ….YOU COWARD.

  55. Islamic myth:_The arabic word NIKAH in the Quran does NOT mean " the act of sexual intercourse"._———————-_Information: _http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Meaning_of_Nikah#English-Arabic_Dictionary:_For_the_Use_of_Both_Travellers_and_Students

  56. "How are dictionaries made? Lexicographers simply record the use of words. If sufficiently many people use a word incorrectly over a sufficiently long time, i.e. use it in a new meaning that it did not have before, it will become an established use and this new meaning will enter the dictionaries. The normal established meaning of salla, found in thousands of places, is to pray. That is the first and main meaning and is undisputed. For a considerable time now Muslims have claimed that there is one exception to the normal meaning of the word, i.e. if God is the subject, then this word means something else. Why? Because otherwise it would cause theological problems !!!" HOW CAN A GOG PRAY ??? TO HIMSELF ? Hahahaha !

  57. To the EVIL TAQIYYA MUSLIM AminRat !!! YES ….I'M ENJOYING :-)
    ALL the readers see CLEAELY that you don't give any REPLY on THE REFERENCES I GAVE YOU :-) WHY? BECAUSE YOU DARE NOT AND YOU CANNOT ! :-)
    Only ad hominems ! Which you don't like …I thougt !! hahahaha I QUOTE SHAMOUN :
    "Moreover, already the title of Hans Wehr’ dictionary makes it clear that it is a dictionary for MODERN written Arabic and is therefore giving the meanings of Arabic words in common usage amongst Muslims TODAY (by today we mean in recent times). In other words, MENJ’s source is simply conveying the fact that the phrase sallallâhû `alayhî wa sallam is commonly translated by Muslims as "God bless him and grant him peace." We never denied that this is what Muslims claim the expression means. "
    TO BE CONTINUED.

  58. I'll give one old dictionary , because I can show it DIRECTLY to you and the readers.
    The authors are Wortabet & Porter (1913) and you can see it HERE: http://books.google.nl/books?id=Fju5UH9dO3YC&…
    Go to page 47and you will find the entry "BLESS" ,with the Arabic translation , ( there is no arabic "pray" in it ! NOW the other way around:
    Go to page 292 with the entry "PRAY" and you will find NO Arabic "bless" .

  59. IT IS REALY SIMPLE STUPID MOHAMEDDAN MUSLIM AminRAT:
    TAKE THE FIRST EDITIONS OF THE OLDEST ARABIC DICTIONARIES !!!
    SEARCH FOR YOURSELF (are you lazy?) AND STOP YOUR SILLY,PATHETIC LYING.
    Do you really think normal thinking (= NOT muslims of course) people here do believe or buy your TAQIYYA !!!???? …..OF COURSE NOT !
    You are down the DRAIN and in the gutter where you belong !!! HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!
    Oh…and don't whine about humiliating ,ranting etc. ….READ THIS TAFSIR (again !) and you know why I belittle you : http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_conte

  60. You are giving these Mohammedan muslims a piece of your mind ! Thank you for that.
    Go on !!! Tell them the TRUTH about their backward CULT !!
    Have a beautiful and long life in FREEDOM!

  61. The sweetness of your faith? Is that sweetness in Quran 4:34 which asks a man to beat his wife? You can have a sweet life, without religion if you're a little intelligent.

  62. Don't forget to read this LINK Aminriadh …..Oh dear ! http://inthenameofallah.org/God's%20Blessing
    Here is a quote:
    1. In the earlier published Arabic dictionaries, the following words were correctly translated as in these TRANSLITERATIONS:
    a) Bless = Ba-raka, As'ada, Sabbahha, Mannahha, An'ama 'ala, Ttawwaba, Yahhfuth, Yahhmi
    b) Blessing = Barakat, Ni'mat, Sha'adat
    c) Pray = Salla, Ibtahala, Tawassala, Tarajja, Raja^a = Supplicate
    d) Shower = Yanshur
    2. In the more POLITICALLY CORRECT newer versions of Arabic dictionaries, they have – ever so slightly but- deliberately changed the meaning of the word PRAY to:
    c) Pray = Bless, in addition to the other meanings.

  63. To Aminriadh…..Oh my dear…!
    Here are (to make it even more easy for you) some of the links I mentioned for you to read and to refute :
    1 )http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Menj/pbuh.htm
    2 )http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/allah_worships.html
    3) http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Menj/pbu
    Don't forget the links WITHIN these links ! :-)
    Have fun !!

  64. OH , my dear Aminriadh , I forgot this.
    READ especially this, if you DARE, because I think you didn't yet : http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/re
    And then of course also ALL the links this man gives .
    AND THEN ….TRY TO REFUTE it !!! Hahahahaha
    OH MY….OH DEAR….WHAT A SHAME ….If you weren't an evil taqiyya muslim….I would PITY you .
    And don't try to RUN (or to divert)….you COWARD !

  65. Hi ,Aminriadh, :-)
    3) You said: "It was the measures and stands YOU SET – that I won by.
    For example . . . . referring to dictionaries . . . . they all say opposite to what you claimed."—————–
    It was a kind of TAQIYYA on my side , silly kid. And tou walked tight into the TRAP ! HAHAHA
    Do you still like youe evil muslim concept of TAQIYYA and KITMAN now ???? :-)
    SHAME on you for CHILDISH CRYING:" I WON …SEE HOW SPECTACULAR !!! " Oh…dear :-)
    4) You said: "How do you answer to others' videos? You make the argument – or bring new evidence . . . . answer. "——————————————————————————————
    These are ARABIC speakers ( like your LYING "HELP"ZITOUNI ). So it is clear what my point is. And of course to show the readers THE TRUTH ! :-)
    How to ANSWER ….THÁT IS NOT MY JOB !! HAHAHAHAHA !!!
    LISTEN MUSLIM : your evil prophet was right…..YOU MUSLIMS COULD ONLY WIN BY TERROR !
    BUT THÁT TIME IS OVER , ISLAM WILL BE DESTROYED BY THE TRUTH !!! … OH DEAR….YEP !

  66. Hi Aminriadh :-)
    1) You say: " Hang . . . . what are those links saying . . .what is the argument?
    It is YOUR job to make that. . . . and not mine." ———————————————————–
    Oh, MY DEAR…What a lame reaction . You asked many times for references etc. Well the links I gave you have MANY of them. IT IS CLEARLY YOUR JOB TO READ THEM …..if
    you dare to :-)
    2)You say: "I have previously – extensively shown you to be incorrect. Hence you resorting to answering by Insults. . . . Is there anything new? "———————————————————
    NO you did NOT !! You imagine you did (like your fake prophet Mohammed). The party is only over when the fat lady ….etc. Hahahaha . I think most readers will agree with me (certainly on this one ) !
    tO BE CONTINUED!

  67. EXACTLY !!!
    Have a nice and long life ,ERJAD…..IN FREEDOM !!!
    Keep up the good spirit :-)

  68. Islam = backward religion.

  69. See this is why you are brainwashed – an successfully – and you prove it time after time.

    Hence why you bring up biased material.

    You are uneducated – because you seem not to know the difference.

    - – -

    That is why . . . you are bring such things up . . . but on what sources?

    We already know these materials – what is new?

    - – - –

    This is too funny?

    I already predicted . . . . all your material will be like this.

    - – - –

    Hence why all your fallacious arguments run to the ground . . . now that you are not able to present any. . . .

    . . . . you are doing this!

    - – - –

    Thank you for the marvelous success. i knew I was good – but never this good.

  70. "Here is a wonderful explanation of a SCHOLAR OF ISLAM, SAM SHAMOUN. "

    Just like Botros – and just how quickly you dropped him. You have many BOGUS scholars. . . . I was one for a while – then Zitouni was an Arabic scholar – the Botors – then another name.

    Sam Shamoun – is a common one – long know to everyone. A Christian whose JOB it is to lie about Islam – he does that extensively.

    - – -

    "He is a Christian, but that does not matter to me as long as he speaks the truth about Islam."

    On what basis do you know he speaks the truth? You meantion them basis – again you will be exposed.

    Just like previously – when you made the lying claim – to look into dictionaries . . . then was exposed as a liar?

    - – -

    "NB. Muslims (who else?) are trying to prevent you to see this video=clip ALSO. "

    See how you repeat lies . . . see how you do it?

    I have already called out over this . . . .what do you do? You repeat the lie – rather than giving an answer.

    - – - –

    This is why universally – you are condemned by your own non-Muslims as "troll".

    - – - –

    Enjoy!

  71. Sala – means more than "pray"

    I have shown that – repeatedly. From dictionaries.

    So which dictionaries are meant? Name them – and let us have a look.

    - – -

    I have looked at the "classical" Arabic dictionaries. . . .and presented materials . . . so what are you talking about?

    Which mysterious – anonymous dictionaries?

    Where are they?

  72. Which dictionaries – where are their name?

    - – -

    Why is it – all your lying sources like – you have no references?

    Oh dear me!

  73. "2. In the more POLITICALLY CORRECT newer versions of Arabic dictionaries, they have – ever so slightly but- DELIBRATELY CHANGED the meaning of the word PRAY to: "

    Which dictionaries are them? Name them. . .

    also name the dictionaries that are older and remained unmodified. We have already been through this.

    See older posts.

    This is NOTHING more than a lying claim.

    - – - –

    "1. In the EARLIER published Arabic dictionaries, the following words were correectly translated as in these TRANSLITERATIONS:
    a) Bless = Ba-raka, As'ada, Sabbahha, Mannahha, An'ama 'ala, Ttawwaba, Yahhfuth, Yahhmi
    b) Blessing = Barakat, Ni'mat, Sha'adat
    c) Pray = Salla, Ibtahala, Tawassala, Tarajja, Raja^a = Supplicate
    d) Shower = Yanshur "

    Which one's – name them. So we can check and see.

    This is nothing more than lying. And making things up. Why are no names for dictionaries given?

  74. Hang . . . . what are those links saying . . .what is the argument?

    It is YOUR job to make that. . . . and not mine.

    I have previously – extensively shown you to be incorrect. Hence you resorting to answering by Insults. . . . Is there anything new?

    - – -

    It was the measures and stands YOU SET – that I won by.

    For example . . . . referring to dictionaries . . . . they all say opposite to what you claimed.

    Then examining your Botros link – which did not say anything . . .

    What is new?

    Nothing.

    All you are doing is posting up fallacious material of others.

    But is there a new argument – or more evidence. . . . nope.

    If there is . . . . .why don't you spell that out.

    - – -

    How do you answer to others' videos? You make the argument – or bring new evidence . . . . answer.

    Else – what is the point?

  75. "The word صلى means to bless with the proposition على .
    Where is your proposition in صلى الله عليه وسلم‎ ?
    I don't see it !

  76. Lonely? Do you seek attention – troll?

    What is there to answer . . . . to except insults?

    I am not one for trading insults.

  77. There is much steam left ,as you see ! Hahahahaha!
    ARE you still going on "pointing things out"? Oh…my dear ! PITY,PITY…. Hahaha !

  78. You want me to look in your falsifyed dictionaries! Falsifyed out of SHAME !!!
    TYPICAL TAQIYYA !!! As I said Allthe time: YOU ARE AN EVIL TAQIYYA MUSLIM ! I find that that strange , because it implies that you know the truth ! Why this LYING , MUSLIM ?
    Are you AFRAID for HELL FIRE Like your sister Maria_Muslimah ?
    What is it ? Think ABOUT THIS !!!

  79. NO ANSWER…NO REACTION AT ALL FROM THE MUSLIMS Aminriadh, Zitouni etc.
    Of course not !!!!!

  80. HOW COME MUSLIMS. The only thing this man Ali Sina is doing is telling the TRUTH !!
    How can that be wrong !

  81. A genuine controversial figure, this "prophet"and therefore NOT a prophet at all !

  82. Thank you very much CHIULO-RUIZ !
    But the muslim Aminriadh still thinks that he "WON"(as he sees it ) the "Debate" about "Salah"(as he calls it) and the lying about PBUH (peace be upon him after the name of the evil fake prophet Mohammed.
    Did you read and listen to the liks I gave ? Or did you know them already?
    Keep up the fight for the truth !!! The fight against THE EVIL CULT ISLAM.
    Have a beatiful and long life in FREEDOM !!

  83. Arabic: صلى الله عليه وسلم‎ ṣall Allāhu ʿalay-hi wa-sallam (Allah prays on him and peace)
    Where is that proposition, Aminriadh, you were talking about?? I ONLY SEE صلى
    and that means ONLY "PRAY ".
    Because you said:
    "The word صلى means to bless with the proposition على

  84. So one of "the best of creatures" (MUSLIMS) the TAQIYYA Muslim Aminriadh pities me,Julia, one of "the worst of creatures" (NON-MUSLIMS). If this isn't TAQIYYA, then WHAT IS ??? Good Lord (not the Idol Allah of course!). :-)

  85. Again about AllahSALA= PRAYING !!
    Because it is very important , for it destroys ISLAM. A REAL GOD DOES NOT PRAY ,OF COURSE !!
    (To whom???). Here is a wonderful explanation of a SCHOLAR OF ISLAM, SAM SHAMOUN.
    He is a IRAKI- Christian, but that does not matter to me as long as he speaks the truth about Islam. AND HE DOES HERE : http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/re
    AND SURPRISE : HE AGREES WITH ME ( Allah prays ):
    1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfuoulm-i8&no
    NB. Muslims are trying to block this !!! Which is very revealing !!! hahahaha
    2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3O6ZmGNi0&f
    ISLAM IS VERY EVIL AS YOU SEE, SO IT MUST BE AND IT WIIL BE DESTROYED !!!!!!!!

  86. Again about AllahSALA= PRAYING !!
    Because it is very important , for it destroys ISLAM. A REAL GOD DOES NOT PRAY ,OF COURSE !!
    (To whom???). Here is a wonderful explanation of a SCHOLAR OF ISLAM, SAM SHAMOUN.
    He is a IRAKI- Christian, but that does not matter to me as long as he speaks the truth about Islam. AND HE DOES HERE : http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/re
    AND SURPRISE : HE AGREES WITH ME ( Allah prays ):
    1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfuoulm-i8&no
    NB. Muslims are trying to block this !!! Which is very revealing !!! hahahaha
    2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3O6ZmGNi0&f
    ISLAM IS VERY EVIL AS YOU SEE, SO IT MUST BE AND IT WIIL BE DESTROYED !!!!!!!!

  87. About Wiki on-line dictionariy This TAQIYYA muslim AminRAT SAYS HIMSELF :
    "One you gave out was – Wiki – Which anyone can edit – and I did."
    I rest my case! :-)

  88. AND THE TAQIYYA-TRICK IS …………THIS ! :
    In the more POLITICALLY CORRECT newer versions of Arabic dictionaries, they have – ever so slightly but- deliberately changed the meaning of the word PRAY to:
    Pray = Bless, in addition to the other meanings. This deliberate SLIGHT of HAND is used to cover up the very embarrassing Salla'l Allahu Alyihi wa Sallam
    which when translated CORRECTLY would read:
    Allah's PRAYERS and SALUTATIONS be upon him
    Thus requiring Allah – if he is the Almighty – to PRAY upon and SALUTE His own creation,Muhammad.
    FOR MORE SEE : http://inthenameofallah.org/God's%20Blessing

  89. HEY MUSLIM RAT…WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT ARGUMENTS ? Hahahaha !

  90. HI, EVIL TAQIYYA MUSLIM AminRAT.
    IF YOU COULD YOU WOULD HELP ME and many other counterjihadists: "
    YOU WOULD KILL THEM, JUST AS SOME HONEST MUSLIM CRETINS (like MITU ) HAVE STATED HERE !!! You feel sorry for yourself and your evil fake prophet Mohammed, who is constantly insulted here ! :-)

  91. Right, MEET, give these slaves a piece of your mind !
    They are used to treat other people harshly.
    Surah 48:29 says:
    Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are harsh against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves.
    AIN'T THAT PEACEFUL ? ! :-)

  92. WHAT are you,a backward muslim, talking about FREEDOM.
    YOU ARE A SLAVE OF ALLAH AND MOHAMMED.
    And you are even proud of it. A SLAVE, TREET !!!!!
    You are not even allowed to think for yourself; read this
    Surah 33:36 says:
    " It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error.".
    SEE, TREET, you onley have to obey…PERIOD !!! :-)

  93. Julia said

    "READ IT MUSLIMS ( and other readers !):
    1. In the EARLIER published Arabic dictionaries, the following words were correectly translated as in these TRANSLITERATIONS:
    a) Bless = Ba-raka, As'ada, Sabbahha, Mannahha, An'ama 'ala, Ttawwaba, Yahhfuth, Yahhmi
    b) Blessing = Barakat, Ni'mat, Sha'adat
    c) Pray = Salla, Ibtahala, Tawassala, Tarajja, Raja^a = Supplicate
    d) Shower = Yanshur
    2. In the more POLITICALLY CORRECT newer versions of Arabic dictionaries, they have – ever so slightly but- DELIBRATELY CHANGED the meaning of the word PRAY to:
    c) Pray = Bless, in addition to the other meanings.
    This deliberate SLIGHT of HAND is used to cover up the very embarrassing
    " Salla'l Allahu Alyihi wa Sallam",which when translated CORRECTLY would read:Allah's PRAYERS and SALUTATIONS be upon him"

    That was nice and may I add:

    "Sallalahu-(Al lah' prayers) Alayhi-(upon him) Wa- (and) Salaam-(peace)", (saws)

    (Al lah's prayers (be) upon him and peace).

    "Deliberate slight of hand" , that is precious ahaha or Taha!

    Happy Halloween1

  94. Again about AllahSALA= PRAYING !!
    Because it is very important , for it destroys ISLAM. A REAL GOD DOES NOT PRAY ,OF COURSE !!
    (To whom???). Here is a wonderful explanation of a SCHOLAR OF ISLAM, SAM SHAMOUN.
    He is a Christian, but that does not matter to me as long as he speaks the truth about Islam. AND HE DOES HERE : http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/re
    AND SURPRISE : HE AGREES WITH ME ( Allah prays !!) JUST AS DO THESE ARABIC SPEAKERS (again) :
    1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfuoulm-i8&no
    2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3O6ZmGNi0&f
    MUSLIMS ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH !!!! ISLAM CAN'T STAND THE TRUTH , THAT IS CLEAR !!
    ISLAM IS VERY EVIL AS YOU SEE, SO IT MUST BE AND IT WIIL BE DESTROYED !!!!!!!!

  95. LISTEN CAREFULLY,ZITOUNI.
    ASK THE REAL CHRISTIANS OR JEWS YOU KNOW WHAT THE NAME, THE NAME,THE NAME… OF THEIR GOD IS IN THE BIBLE ! …DO IT !!!!!!
    THEY WILL CERTAINLY SAY : JAHWEH !
    YOUR GOD HAS 99 NAMES….AND NOT ONE IS JAWEH.
    I HOPE IT IS CLEAR NOW !!
    You are brainwashed throughout you whole life that your god is also the god of other religions…WEL…HE IS NOT !!!

  96. 1) I don't believe in any god and thus obvoiusly also not in an IDOL named ALLAH . :-)
    2) Of course the Jews and the Christians have in the bible : Allah created ..etc.
    Just as Al-UZZA was a god(ess) or ZEUS a god.
    BUT the NAME of the god of the bible is only JAHWEH. While your muslim god has 99 names (Allah included).It was an EVIL TRICK OF YOUR FAKE PROPHET MOHAMMED !
    ITS REALLY YOU,ZITOUNI, WHO IS THE IGNORANT HERE ! Just like with with: "May Allah pray on him and grant him peace.": (Arabic: صلى الله عليه وسلم‎ ṣall Allāhu ʿalay-hi wa-sallam.
    You are fooled throughout your whole life !

  97. HOW EVIL ZITOUNI, you said:
    "The reason why there is fatwa ( TO KILL HIM!!) against him not because he expose mistakes in koran as you ignorantly claimed the reason because he insults and make fun of prophet Muhamed ."
    YOU MUSLIMS WIIL HAVE MUCH KILLING TO DO .
    About 4/5 of world population insults and make fun of your EVIL FAKE PROPHET Mohammed !!!

  98. Again about AllahSALA= PRAYING !!
    Because it is very important , for it destroys ISLAM. A REAL GOD DOES NOT PRAY ,OF COURSE !!
    (To whom???). Here is a wonderful explanation of a SCHOLAR OF ISLAM, SAM SHAMOUN.
    He is a Christian, but that does not matter to me as long as he speaks the truth about Islam. AND HE DOES HERE : http://www.answeringislam.org/authors/shamoun/reb… ( READ THE LINKS TOO !!!)
    AND SURPRISE : HE AGREES WITH ME ( Allah prays !!) JUST AS DO THESE ARABIC SPEAKERS (again) :
    1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfuoulm-i8&no
    2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3O6ZmGNi0&f
    NB. Muslims (who else?) are trying to prevent you to see this video=clip ALSO.
    MUSLIMS ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH !!!! ISLAM CAN'T STAND THE TRUTH , THAT IS CLEAR !!
    ISLAM IS VERY EVIL AS YOU SEE, SO IT MUST BE AND IT WIIL BE DESTROYED !!!!!!!!

  99. Again about AllahSALA= PRAYING !!
    Because it is very important , for it destroys ISLAM. A REAL GOD DOES NOT PRAY ,OF COURSE !!
    (To whom???). Here is a wonderful explanation of a SCHOLAR OF ISLAM, SAM SHAMOUN.
    He is a Christian, but that does not matter to me as long as he speaks the truth about Islam. AND HE DOES HERE : http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/re
    AND SURPRISE : HE AGREES WITH ME ( Allah prays !!) JUST AS DO THESE ARABIC SPEAKERS (again) :
    1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfuoulm-i8&no
    NB. Muslims are trying to block this !!! Which is very revealing !!! hahahaha
    2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3O6ZmGNi0&f
    NB. Muslims (who else?) are trying to prevent you to see this video=clip ALSO.
    MUSLIMS ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH !!!! ISLAM CAN'T STAND THE TRUTH , THAT IS CLEAR !!
    ISLAM IS VERY EVIL AS YOU SEE, SO IT MUST BE AND IT WIIL BE DESTROYED !!!!!!!!

  100. Again about AllahSALA= PRAYING !!
    Because it is very important , for it destroys ISLAM. A REAL GOD DOES NOT PRAY ,OF COURSE !!
    (To whom???). Here is a wonderful explanation of a SCHOLAR OF ISLAM, SAM SHAMOUN.
    He is a Christian, but that does not matter to me as long as he speaks the truth about Islam. AND HE DOES HERE : http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/re
    AND SURPRISE : HE AGREES WITH ME ( Allah prays !!) JUST AS DO THESE ARABIC SPEAKERS (again) :
    1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfuoulm-i8&no
    NB. Muslims are trying to block this !!! Which is very revealing !!! hahahaha
    2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3O6ZmGNi0&f
    NB. Muslims (who else?) are trying to prevent you to see this video=clip ALSO.
    MUSLIMS ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH !!!! ISLAM CAN'T STAND THE TRUTH , THAT IS CLEAR !!
    ISLAM IS VERY EVIL AS YOU SEE, SO IT MUST BE AND IT WIIL BE DESTROYED !!!!!!!!

  101. Hello TAQIYYA Muslim Aminriadh,
    Read this:
    1. In the earlier published Arabic dictionaries, the following words were correectly translated as in these TRANSLITERATIONS:
    a) Bless = Ba-raka, As'ada, Sabbahha, Mannahha, An'ama 'ala, Ttawwaba, Yahhfuth, Yahhmi
    b) Blessing = Barakat, Ni'mat, Sha'adat
    c) Pray = Salla, Ibtahala, Tawassala, Tarajja, Raja^a = Supplicate
    d) Shower = Yanshur
    2. In the more POLITICALLY CORRECT newer versions of Arabic dictionaries, they have – ever so slightly but- deliberately changed the meaning of the word PRAY to:
    c) Pray = Bless, in addition to the other meanings.
    This deliberate SLIGHT of HAND is used to cover up the very embarrassing
    Salla'l Allahu Alyihi wa Sallam which when translated CORRECTLY would read:
    Allah's PRAYERS and SALUTATIONS be upon him http://inthenameofallah.org/God's%20Blessing

  102. OH MY…Now the muslim kid Aminriadh really thinks He WON.
    He talks about WINNING AND LOSING…..NOT ABOUT FINDING THE TRUTH !
    How childish indeed , ….:-)

  103. HERE ARE ALL THE SOURCES YOU CAN ASK FOR ,AMINRIADH ! http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/re
    READ IT !!! :-) :-)

  104. Read this ,Aminriadh: http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/re
    ALSO THE LINKS IN IT !! WITH ALL THE PROOFS AND REFERENCES !
    And listen to these Arabic speakers:
    1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfuoulm-i8&no
    2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3O6ZmGNi0&f
    YOU ARE COMPLETELY CRUSHED, AMINRIADH !
    The TRUTH always PREVAILS !!! :-)

  105. YEP…YOU WON …Silly KID. Are you Happy , NOW go outside and play with the other muslim kids: Playing terrorist ! :-)

  106. AGAIN Aminriah: BRAINS IS NOT YOUR DEPARTMENT ! Hahahahahahaa!!

  107. Dear KnoTheEnemy.
    VERY CLEAR ,NICE AND FUNNY DIDEO !!!
    Thank you for telling the TRUTH !!
    Have a great,long life in FREEDOM !

  108. YOU THINK YOU HAVE PROVEN …BUT YOU IMAGINE THAT YOU DID SOMETHING WHICH YOU NEVER DID. You are agood follower of your evil fake prophet.
    Proof: Sahih Bukhari 5321 :"The Prophet imagined that he had done a thing while he had not done it (yukhayyalu ilayhi anna hu kana yaf ‘alu al-shay`a wa ma fa‘alahu) ." :-)

  109. REALLY ???
    YEP REALLY !! LIKE the conspiracy that the JEWS, AMERICANS, THE WEST, THE KAFIRUN etc . are behind the poor situation where almost ALL muslim countries live in !!! I don't claim superior knowledge…That is you MULIM. YOU believe this Surah 3:110—"You are the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind. You enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and believe in Allah .", DON'T YOU ?
    And we non-muslims are "the most vile of creatures", IS IT NOT ?
    Just like Hitler's NAZIS did.

  110. Hello muslims , Did you THINK about my comment,OR CAN'T YOU ? :-)

  111. HEY,AMINRIADH, YOU GO RIGHT NOW INTO THE WELL-KNOWN MUSLIM DIVERSION MODE ! With this WHY of you (again). :-)

  112. BOTROS IS STILL RIGHT!
    ABOUT YOUR "DICTIONARIES"
    SEE: http://inthenameofallah.org/God's%20Blessing
    ABOUT ASKING ARABS, LISTEN TO THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfuoulm-i8&no
    AND THIS : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3O6ZmGNi0&f
    NOW YOU COLLAPSE, EVIL LIAR !!!

  113. STILL NO REPLY FROM AminRAT NOR Zitouni , both backward brainwashed muslims !

  114. HELLO MINRIADH AND ZITOUNI :
    DO YOU AGREE WITH PSYCHOPATH MITU ??

  115. READ IT MUSLIMS ( and other readers !):
    1. In the EARLIER published Arabic dictionaries, the following words were correectly translated as in these TRANSLITERATIONS:
    a) Bless = Ba-raka, As'ada, Sabbahha, Mannahha, An'ama 'ala, Ttawwaba, Yahhfuth, Yahhmi
    b) Blessing = Barakat, Ni'mat, Sha'adat
    c) Pray = Salla, Ibtahala, Tawassala, Tarajja, Raja^a = Supplicate
    d) Shower = Yanshur
    2. In the more POLITICALLY CORRECT newer versions of Arabic dictionaries, they have – ever so slightly but- DELIBRATELY CHANGED the meaning of the word PRAY to:
    c) Pray = Bless, in addition to the other meanings.
    This deliberate SLIGHT of HAND is used to cover up the very embarrassing
    " Salla'l Allahu Alyihi wa Sallam",which when translated CORRECTLY would read:Allah's PRAYERS and SALUTATIONS be upon him

  116. To Aminriadh ( the evil taqiyya muslim):
    Read also this about The PRAYING OF ALLAH ( Sallah etc.) http://inthenameofallah.org/God's%20Blessing

  117. Again about AllahSALA= PRAYING !!
    Because it is very important , for it destroys ISLAM. A REAL GOD DOES NOT PRAY ,OF COURSE !!
    (To whom???). Here is a wonderful explanation of a SCHOLAR OF ISLAM, SAM SHAMOUN.
    He is a Christian, but that does not matter to me as long as he speaks the truth about Islam. AND HE DOES HERE : http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/re
    AND SURPRISE : HE AGREES WITH ME ( Allah prays !!) JUST AS DO THESE ARABIC SPEAKERS (again) :
    1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfuoulm-i8&no
    NB. Muslims are trying to block this !!! Which is very revealing !!! hahahaha
    2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3O6ZmGNi0&f
    NB. Muslims (who else?) are trying to prevent you to see this video=clip ALSO.
    MUSLIMS ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH !!!! ISLAM CAN'T STAND THE TRUTH , THAT IS CLEAR !!
    ISLAM IS VERY EVIL AS YOU SEE, SO IT MUST BE AND IT WIIL BE DESTROYED !!!!!!!!

  118. The prophet had left some issues for people to fight for and against him up until so many years. Truly a genuine controversial figure!

  119. YOU SAID ASK AN ARAB ,stupid man !
    And if you read and listen to these men you will know what happened to your DICTIONARIES !! WITH REFERENCES !
    IT IS ALL TAQIYYA ,AGAIN !!! EVIL MUSLIM LIES !!
    But you dare not read! You did NOT READ AND LISTEN .
    PROOF: I MENTIONNED 3 SCHOLARS
    And you talk about another scholar !
    YOU ARE CRUSHED !!! HAHAHAHA !!!

  120. You make me look good – with all you lies . . . and swearing.

    Nothing like your own personal troll!

    Keep at it.

    Swear more!

  121. He he he . . . brainwashing? Ha ha ha another bogus scholar . . . ha ha hah

    What happened to Botros? Ha ha ha ha

    - – -

    What happened to dictionaries. . .

    - – -

    Also more lies . . .

    "NB. Muslims are trying to block this !!! Which is very revealing "

    Really? Evidence . . . or you just made that up! Hence a lie.

    - – -

    "MUSLIMS ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH !!!! "

    Really my dearest . . . .looked in a dictionary yet?

    Oh. . . didn't you say – look in one?

    Ha ha ha!

    How humiliating . . . the lies . . . botros this and that.

    Botros nothing . ..

    Dictionary – wah wah – dictionary nothing . . .

    Arab – ask an Arab . . .

    oh it all collapsed!

  122. He he he . . . brainwashing? Ha ha ha another bogus scholar . . . ha ha hah

    What happened to Botros? Ha ha ha ha

    - – -

    What happened to dictionaries. . .

    - – -

    Also more lies . . .

    "NB. Muslims are trying to block this !!! Which is very revealing "

    Really? Evidence . . . or you just made that up! Hence a lie.

    - – -

    "MUSLIMS ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH !!!! "

    Really my dearest . . . .looked in a dictionary yet?

    Oh. . . didn't you say – look in one?

    Ha ha ha!

    How humiliating . . . the lies . . . botros this and that.

    Botros nothing . ..

    Dictionary – wah wah – dictionary nothing . . .

    Arab – ask an Arab . . .

    oh it all collapsed!

  123. WHAT ABOUT ABROGATION ,ZITOUNI ?
    YOU DON'T WANT TO HERE THIS ,IS IT NOT !!!
    Surah 9:5 and 9:29 ABROGATES Practically ALL the "peaceful"verses in your evil BOOK.
    But you don't know that, hey? EVIL TAQIYYA MISLIM !!!

  124. Again about AllahSALA= PRAYING !!
    Because it is very important , for it destroys ISLAM. A REAL GOD DOES NOT PRAY ,OF COURSE !!
    (To whom???). Here is a wonderful explanation of a SCHOLAR OF ISLAM, SAM SHAMOUN.
    He is a Christian, but that does not matter to me as long as he speaks the truth about Islam. AND HE DOES HERE : http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/re….
    AND SURPRISE : HE AGREES WITH ME ( Allah prays !!) JUST AS DO THESE ARABIC SPEAKERS (again) :
    1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfuoulm-i8&no….
    NB. Muslims are trying to block this !!! Which is very revealing !!! hahahaha
    2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3O6ZmGNi0&f….
    NB. Muslims (who else?) are trying to prevent you to see this video=clip ALSO.
    MUSLIMS ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH !!!! ISLAM CAN'T STAND THE TRUTH , THAT IS CLEAR !!
    ISLAM IS VERY EVIL AS YOU SEE, SO IT MUST BE AND IT WIIL BE DESTROYED !!!!!!!!

  125. AND THE "SALAH" drama goes on :-)
    Again about AllahSALA= PRAYING !!
    Because it is very important , for it destroys ISLAM. A REAL GOD DOES NOT PRAY ,OF COURSE !!
    (To whom???). Here is a wonderful explanation of a SCHOLAR OF ISLAM, SAM SHAMOUN.
    He is a Christian, but that does not matter to me as long as he speaks the truth about Islam. AND HE DOES HERE : http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/re….
    AND SURPRISE : HE AGREES WITH ME ( Allah prays !!) JUST AS DO THESE ARABIC SPEAKERS (again) :
    1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfuoulm-i8&no….
    NB. Muslims are trying to block this !!! Which is very revealing !!! hahahaha
    2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3O6ZmGNi0&f….
    NB. Muslims (who else?) are trying to prevent you to see this video=clip ALSO.
    MUSLIMS ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH !!!! ISLAM CAN'T STAND THE TRUTH , THAT IS CLEAR !!
    ISLAM IS VERY EVIL AS YOU SEE, SO IT MUST BE AND IT WIIL BE DESTROYED !!!!!!!!

  126. I THINK HE READ YOUR LIES AminRAT !!! HAHAHA !!
    And he read the Quran too.
    Chapters like surah 8 and 9 etc.
    Very civilised indeed !!

  127. AND I WILL GO ON LETTING YOU DO AS I WANT TO . YOU ARE LIKE A PUPPET ON A STRING!
    YOU AMUSE ME EVEN RIGHT NOW !!!
    YOU ARE THE NEW "ACHMED THE DEAD TERRORIST " SOOOO FUNNY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go
    HAHAHA !

  128. Ah . . . . my dearest Julie – you make me look good.

    Keep up the BS!!!

    ha ha ha ha

    - – -

    When it is actual matter – like Sala . . . .

    Well – I will keep exposing your varied lies.

    – - –

    But as for this kind of BS

    Enjoy!

  129. "Hypocrisy? I take this seriously, I think about it. Maybe. "

    No you don't take it seriously . . . look how long it took you to address it . . . . .

    Oh but you DID NOT answer for it . . . .

    you simply highlighted you hypocrisy even more.

    For your ownself . . . you choose the higher ground . . .

    and support a troll like Julia.

    - – -

    Previously you pretended – that I built these measures and standards.

    But I gave you references that – it wasn't me.

    Troll is universal term. For such person. . . .

    did you have an answer?

    No.

    - – -

    But I am glad . . . .

    at least you are under NO illusion – that Julia has some kind of intelligence and knowledge of Islam.

    I mean that has been revealed NOT to be true.

    - – -

    "But the way you answer often shows your poor understanding or poor respect of my positions. "

    Ah . . . . but I give you FULL chance to explain yourself . . . .

    what do you do?

    Oh . . . you don't explain or respond back.

    You accused me off all sorts. I asked for evidence . . . .

    You went silent.

    Hence you lied. You made THOSE allegations up – and they were FALSE.

    - – - –

    And then this support of "troll"

    . . . . what effective approach?

    Oh did you not read the so many lies . . . . ?

  130. Well, you gave the perspective of Islam, or at least many Muslims, Zitouni. Thanks. Also for telling me about the Moroccans in WWII.

    I disagree of course.

    But I emphasize a few things, in response:

    - You Muslims hardly can win the war against the West. And you hardly will be helped by anyone to win this war. So if you cannot win it, why not seek a way to peace?

    - Oh, you compare China, and perhaps Russia, to the West now? Don't be naive; the Chinese have brutally crushed Muslim uprisings and are you now conveniently going to forget about your fellow Muslims, the Uigurs? Did you know that China executes 1300 people per year? America only dozens per year.

    And also are you conveniently forgetting what the Russians did to Afghans in 1979-1989, MANY, MANY, MANY times worse, more cruel things than NATO did in Afghanistan? Do you forget Chechnya too? The Russians were soooo cruel there.
    So just tell us, WHO do you consider BETTER than the West? Than America? Don't be so naive about the rest of the powerful nations, please.

    - And YOU know who is keeping Assad in power, don't you? It is Russia, China, Iran!!! America and NATO it was that vanquished Khadaffi. But IT SEEMS you Muslims will simply NEVER BE GRATEFUL, FOR ANYTHING the West does for you, will you? When America now helps topple Assad, you Muslims won;t be grateful again, we are sure.

    - As in Iraq, do you know it has a high oil production now, and it keeps every cent of the income of oil and it has a growing economy and democracy and much more freedom? And Saddam Hussein really was worse than Assad, but you would have liked to keep him in power???!!! Just like you now like Assad to stay in power?????

    - Occupation by America, puppet regimes? NOT in many powerful Islamic nations, like Turkey for instance. And don't act as if you Muslims are not extremely powerful, with your OIC, of 56 nations!!!

    And finally, don;'t whine about "'occupation" and "exploitations" but let the OIC do as Brazil, Russia, India, China and unite if necessary. Then they are a good match to the admittedly overbearing West. Those 4 countries are not occupied in any way by the West and neither are you Muslims now or do you need to be.

    - But the bottom line is; do not try to contradict Ali Sina and all those other counterjihadists, because if you persist in this hostile threathening attitude against the West, the counterjihadists will get ever more followers and allies, no matter how much you refute them.

    And oh, how you Muslims, and your prophet, will be humiliated; perhaps a 100 times worse than when you make compromise and peace.

    You better get wise and seek peace & prosperity for the sake of so many of the Muslims.

    But as they say: "It is your funeral".

  131. YOU STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND AminRAT :
    YOU ARE THE MUSLIM ,SO YOU ARE THE LIAR !!
    It is really simple, even you can understand what I say.
    TAKE YOUR TIME !!!! Hahahahaha !!!

  132. The Article I MENTIONNED says:
    "We are well aware that the name Allah is used by Arab speaking Christians for the God of the Bible. In fact, the root from which the name is derived, ilah, stems from the ancient Semitic languages, corresponding to the Mesopotamian IL, as well as the Hebrew-Aramaic EL, as in Ishma-el, Immanu-el, Isra-el. These terms were often used to refer to any deity worshiped as a high god, especially the chief deity amongst a pantheon of lesser gods. As such, the Holy Bible uses the term as just one of the many titles for Yahweh, the only true God.
    -Yet the problem arises from the fact that Muslims insist that Allah is not a title, but the personal name of the God of Islam. This becomes problematic since according to the Holy Bible the name of the God of Abraham is Yahweh/Jehovah, not Allah:
    God spoke further to Moses and said to him, "I am Yahweh (YHVH) and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as God Almighty; BUT BY MY NAME, YAHWEH, I did not make myself known to them." Exodus 6:2-3
    Therefore, Christians can use Allah as a title or a generic noun for the true God, but not as the personal name for the God of the Holy Bible.

  133. I found a GOOD EXPLANATION on the internet FOR YOU backward, brainwashed MOHAMMEDAN Zitouni. Read it ,YOU FOOL.
    THE TITLE IS :
    "IS ALLAH THE GOD OF BIBLE?"
    This article by a christian ( WHICH I AM NOT ) shows clearly that your fake god and pre-islamic IDOL ALLAH is NOT the same as JAHWEH !! http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/god.htm
    READ IT AND THINK !! There is no CHRISTIAN ON EARTH WHO WILL SAY THAT YOUR IDOL ALLAH FROM THE QURAN IS THE SAME AS JAHWEH OF THE BIBLE. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.!!!

  134. I know you muslims want us to believe that your ALLAH is the same as JAHWEH.
    1) but in the whole quran JEHWEH I not mentionned once ! In the bible THERE IS ONLY JAHWEH as name for god.
    2) I ysed the capital and minor letters IN
    - ENGLISH- TO MAKE MY POINT CLEAR ,stupid.

  135. I WILL SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU CLEARLY NOW AMINRIADH .
    YOU ARE AN EVIL TAQIYYA MUSLIM. AND ALL YOUR QUASI INTELLECTUAL BABBLING HERE WILL BRING YOU NOWHERE !!!
    NOBODY LISTENS TO YOU AND YOU WILL NOT CONVINCE A SINGLE READER .
    ON THE CONTRARY. MORE AND MORE PEOPLE START LOATHING YOU, FOR BEING ARROGANT AND HAUGHTY.

  136. Hi, Aminriadh, thanks for responding.

    Even Ali, muslim, said something along the lines that it is not right to dismiss claims solely because the claims were not backed up by evidence.

    Remember, you responded to me, and I am grateful for it, but first and foremost you answer to me, not I to you.

    I will point to websites Ali Sina, FFI, Jihad Watch, Islam watch for evidence. it is overwhelmingly there.

    Look, Aminriadh, sooner or later you have to recognize a group of people who follow or are allied to well-known critics of Islam.

    I call them, following terminology of Robert Spencer; Counterjihadists. You perhaps calll them Islam-haters. But do call them SOME name, because they do exist. In large numbers.

    I explained to you that since Muslims are hardly likely to win the whole planet to their faith now any more, that the Muslims better make peace with the Westerners.

    The Westerners will always feel free to insult Islam, but they may lose interest in a massive way if Muslims make peace with them. But if many Muslims keep being hostile, unforgiving, insulting to the West, I say that
    Millions of Westerners and Hindus will massively support well-known Islam-critics and they will massively insult MOhammed and Islam, like Julia does already.

    And many of you Muslims PROVOKE it. And many of you CONDONE the hatred among you.

    That was what I was talking about.

    Evidence is all on anti-Islam-websites if you care to examine it scientifically, logically. Very properly and massively sourced, from multiple sources. It's not my fault if you are too prejudiced to look at it, because you can find those sites easily without me.

    You cannot refute all of what they present, and it is your fellow-Muslims who betray you at every turn even if you do, with all their different interpretations of Islam. Because you Muslims have no conditions of membership of Islam. Is the bottom line.

    You wrote:
    "Such as yourself . . . who has OPENLY admitted – that truth doesn't matter to you . . . just the hate of Islam does."

    ???? I here and now explain my motivation to (help) criticize Islam;
    A. there is a better political system than Islam offers, and Islam blocks it, is hostile and threathening to it, or if you will, competes with it. Naturally I explain and defend the better political system when Islam contradicts it.

    B. There is a TRUER lifestyle than Islam offers, on many tenets and issues, by studying science and seeking for the best explanation of life, history, laws of nature and lots of processes, events. Naturally I like this Truer lifestyle to spread among Muslims and I like them to exchange the untrue parts of Islam for TRUER science-explanations of so much.

  137. NO REPLY ON THIS ONE OF THE BRAINWASHED MOHAMMEDAN Aminriadh.
    OF COURSE NOT ! WHAT CAN HE SAY, except LIES ! :-)

  138. YOU ARE "RIGHT". ( I let the mohammedan babbling here ;-) Hahahahha!!!!)
    OF COURSE ,Jesus was "MUCH MORE EVIL AND VIOLENT" then Mohammed. Mohammed "never killed a person". Mohammed "did NOT plunder". Mohammed "had NO SLAVES".
    Mohammed "had no sex with a nearly 9 years old baby girl". Mohammed had "NO SEX-SLAVES ". Mohammed "DID NOT SAY : I'm BEING MADE VICTORIOUS BY TERROR !!!! ". OH, NO sir. :-)
    So this Mohammedan is happy now ! He likes lies …YEP !

  139. You are clearly a RACIST ,Zitouni.

  140. YOU ARE JEALOUS MOHAMMEDAN Aminriadh.
    You envy AlsiSina. All you writing had no succes at all. People here still despise Islam.
    And after your bad performance even more. Many think you are the clown here, while you think you are smart ! YES….This is the bitter truth for you ! :-)

  141. Again you show us how stupid you are AminRAT.
    You said: "Yet you support right Christianity. Which is a hypocritical position – as I once previously pointed out. "
    ———–
    We free people support ALL GOOD AND PEACEFUL PEOPLE whether Christian, Jew, Atheïst , Hindu , Budist,Animist, ….You name it, BUT NOT YOUR EVIL CULT ISLAM !!!
    We fight AGAIST ISLAM TILL IT IS DEFEATED. AND IT WILL BE DEFEATED !
    TRUTH ALWAYS PREVAILS. IISLAM IS ONE BIG EVIL LIE !!!

  142. The EVIL TAQIYYA MOHAMMEDAN AminRAT said:
    "" The fact that you are implicitely defending him with this question says enough. Lol. "

    Does it? What does it say . . .and why?
    ————
    Again you show us how stupid you are here !!! REALLY :-)
    Everybody understand what I said !!!!! Hahahahaha!

  143. The EVIL TAQIYYA MOHAMMEDAN AminRAT SAID:
    "" I indeed do call you STUPID Amin.! BECAUSE SIMPLY you are ! "

    Ha ha – fallacious argument. . . . "BECAUSE SIMPLY you are " what does this mean? "
    ————–
    You are ,AGAIN, the only one who does not understand what I said….AND WITH THIS REPLYYOU PROVE AGAIN THAT YOU ARE STUPID !!
    Q.E.D. I rest my case. Hahahahahaha!

  144. NO REPLY OF THE MUSLIM AMINRIADH !!! Hahahaha!!! Of course ! :-)

  145. Zitouni said: "For white people "!!!!!
    Thanks Zitouni for showing your racist view and hate so clearly.
    I was right all along.
    It is not about religion. IT IS ABOUT HATE , RACISM AND REVENGE.
    You are a LOSER !!

  146. No , allah is the word for god in Arabic . But the NAME of Botros' god is JAHWEH !

    There you go again with your stupidity. You now know arabic better than me . No it is not . Arabic language does not have capital or minor letters –
    Allah is the name of deity which created heaven and earth and was deity of Abraham and all biblical prophets . Just like Obama is the name of US president and not word Obama means president in English language . In Arabic the word used to refer to deity whether false ones or the true one is the word Elah and not Allah
    In USA the word used to refer to leader of the nation is the word president and not Obama .

    Elah = God and Elah = god

    Ask any Arab how do you say my God or my god in Arabic

    He would not be able to use the word Allah. Just if you ask an American how do you say my president in English he would be able to use the word Obama

    For an Arab he will have to use the word Elah instead so the word Elah is the equivalent of God or god in English . So it be will be incorrect to say Allahi in arabic the correct is Elahi ( letter I in arabic is equivalent of my in English ) it will be like saying in English my Obama instead of my president . If Arab christians as well as Arab Jews are using the word Allah for God then they do too believe him to be their God just if an American says my president is Obama . I would not assume that he is talking about somebody else and not Obama the actual US president

  147. 1) Only Arabic speaking Christians say allah if they talk about god ( lower case "g").No other Christian in the world uses that name. Words can have more meanings !!! Silly kid.

    Did you read dummy Genesis 1 : 1 in Arabic ???

    It says in the begining Allah created heaven and earth

    in english god is used for false gods now you cannot escape unless you belive that heaven was created by false god

  148. Again about AllahSALA= PRAYING !!
    Because it is very important , for it destroys ISLAM. A REAL GOD DOES NOT PRAY ,OF COURSE !!
    (To whom???). Here is a wonderful explanation of a SCHOLAR OF ISLAM, SAM SHAMOUN.
    He is a Christian, but that does not matter to me as long as he speaks the truth about Islam. AND HE DOES HERE : http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/re
    AND SURPRISE : HE AGREES WITH ME ( Allah prays !!) JUST AS DO THESE ARABIC SPEAKERS (again) :
    1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfuoulm-i8&no
    NB. Muslims are trying to block this !!! Which is very revealing !!! hahahaha
    2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3O6ZmGNi0&f
    NB. Muslims (who else?) are trying to prevent you to see this video=clip ALSO.
    MUSLIMS ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH !!!! ISLAM CAN'T STAND THE TRUTH , THAT IS CLEAR !!
    ISLAM IS VERY EVIL AS YOU SEE, SO IT MUST BE AND IT WIIL BE DESTROYED !!!!!!!!

  149. The governments are allies of America, yes, but by no means occupied by America.

    Allies !!! LOL are you drunk .
    they are allies to mafia regimes and god fathers who are not elected by people so they do not represent their people . Do you know how mafia works ?? I guess you do , so there are no difference between them and mafias

    So the West does not control the world any more and cannot do what it wants.

    They still do control M east thats where the heart of the world is .

    Start worrying about the immense influence of China in Africa (in Angola there are now 3 million Chinese together with 9 million Angolese).

    Angola is not a Muslim country and chinese did not go with guns

    - Look, you should carefully consider your grievances and consider whether other nations and even islamic nations are not guilty of exactly the same acts and attitudes that you reproach the West for.

    As far as I know no country interfer in west internal affair . We do not have CIA type terrorist organization enganged in coup d¨´etat installing pupet regimes in the west , but they do .

    And consider forgiving, for your own good. Westerners also forgive a lot. Once English and France and also Germans and Russians were terrible enemies of each other, with much justified anger. But now they are friends.

    Yes they are all whites and all christians so they treat each other with respect. They do not have same atititude with us because we do not look the way they do or worship same they do so we are bunch of inferior race which does deserve right to live

    - The West very, very consistently, ever since the Cold War ended, pleads for power to the people, in democracy.

    For white people

    You do remember the West ditched their allies Ali Ben Zine and Mubarak?!

    After supporting them for decades . They ditched them because they could not find way to keep them in power . It was too risky to continue supporting them againt 90 M people

    - Lastly; you do not need to help ME to achieve peace. But to help the Muslims. Look; it is said; If you cannot beat them, join them.

    I think if your grand father in WWII thought the way you do or did what you are asking me to do Holland would still have been German colony and no matters how many brave Morocccans fought to liberate you it would not have helped because you wanted Germans to be in your land

    And I warned you sternly, that if many of you Muslims keep being hostile and hateful and even violent against democratic nations;

    Muslims are not hostiles just like that . Muslims have forgotten about colonials what they did to them and all about wars crimes comitted even by Holand in Indonesia , France in N Africa and so on . while Jews sucked the blood out of Germans for the so called holocaust .You are not thankful that we did not set war crime tribunal for your war crime you want to suck more and kill more of us .

    then inside democratic nations avalanches of the most horrid insults, on Islam, and especially on Mohammed, will be broadcasted and heaped on the Muslims.

    Why should west respect us when we do not respect ourselves by allowing Mafia type regime to rule us . Make the west poor by selling oil in Muslim curency and investing in Muslim world instead and withdraw all your trilions asset from their bank and see what will happen to them they would not have time to think of insulting our prophtet . They would be eating from carbage like in Spain today

    And for 99 % a part of Muslims brought this on all the Muslims, by being so stubborn anti-western and unforgiving.

    People in one sense are guilty for not rising up against those mafia regimes who works for the enemy . you said unforgiving how many westerners was tried and hanged for war crimes comitted during colonial wars ????? . They were all forgiven. I respect Jews for that they hanged every damn German who was accused for war crime. Muslims are bunch of stupid. Did you read what one racist American politician is saying ? he said that Iraq which was ilegally ocupied and destroyed by USA is the one which should pay for war reparation and not USA . He had the gust to say that because he knows that Muslims are bunch of dummies

    I was talking about a wise choice of the Muslims in the 21st century, and only then helping us, choosing for us to achieve a much more peaceful situation between Westerners/ Hindus and Muslims.

    I gave you the solution , but you did not to accept it because is not good for you . Westerners rather prefer to keep the conflict this way even they are losing some life because they know the cost will be higher if they chose to leave . This cost will be destruction of their economy which based on stealing from Third world nations . So you want us to let you ocupy , steal interfer in our world and at the same time you want us not to react . I suggest that you advise your people to do that and see what they will tell you

  150. Thanks for once again giving the perspective of Muslims, Zitouni. OK.

    Thats was also the attitude of the people of Hoalnd during WWII , was it not ?
    We Moroccans helpled kick the Germans out of your counrtry while you are siding with people who ocupy and kill us , thanks alot

    - Colonial days are over. Most of your grievances may be already solved.

    No they are not . Arab counries are stil under ocupation. Rulers are nothing , but CIA pupet regimes . CIA has given some independence to govern such as how many wives they get have in palaces or how many they can kill and torture , but when it comes crucial economical policies CIA decide . Which damn leader will allow USA military attache from US embassy to govern his country ?? only if you are CIA man .
    Which damn leader would sell its natural resources in currency ( dolar ) of its enemy. Thats the rason why USA did not collapse after financial crisis because Arabs in Gulf bailed them out. Those traitors are helping USA to kill more Muslims because dolars is still world reserve currency because oil is sold in dolar so USA can still afford to conduct wars around the world

    - American military bases on your soil is no big problem.

    No problem !!! what about having miliatry bases in US soil of N korea , Cuba , or Iran .

    It is the same in Germany and Japan and the people there earn money from the military and don't complain.

    No , ask them to have bases of nations that I mentioned above . German and Japane people are not being killed everyday by drons Attack nor the rulers of those countries are CIA pupets regimes , they are democratically elected . US bases in Japan is to protect Japan from China in Germany was from Soviet union and USA pays the bill while in Arabia is to protect Mafia regimes from its people and stupid Arabs pay the bill , did you see the difference now

  151. IT IS YOUR JOB TO PROVE THAT YOUR socalled god Allah exists!.
    It is YOUR JOB to prove that Mohammed is a true prophet !
    It your job to prove that the Quran came through an angel (?) from this Allah to mohammed.
    It is your job to present evidence . YOU NEVER DID.
    SO ISLAM IS ONE BIG LIE !!!! Hahahahahaha

  152. WHEN ? You live in a dilusion, like your FAKE and brainsick prophet Mohammed did.
    You are a good follower of your "perfect role model" , that is for certain!!! Hahahahahhaa !!

  153. YOUR "socalled answer was that you did not know what
    THE IDIOTIC "ALIF, LAM,MEEM"-thing. (your words LOL) meant.
    Later you copy/pasted from a like i gave you , which suggested many different "explanations" .
    But the same MUSLIM link said CLEARLY that no Islamic scholar knows the answer !!! Many volomes were written about this NONSENSic " Ali.Lam.thing ".
    So you were crushed and HUMILIATED !! Hahahaha !!!

  154. Hello backward brainwashed Mohammedan Zitouni :-)
    You said: "Are you going to say that Allah was uncertain that he has no son ? uhmm tell me ignorant dummy ."
    ——–
    I say even more . Your ALLAH is a pagan IDOL. He (she?) can not be uncertain because he (she) is no god. The real Allah was his inventor Your fake prophet Mohammed. And this cretin was VERY uncertain. All he did know about your fake god came from the Jews, Christians and pagans.
    READ THIS : http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/za

  155. HELLO BACKWARD BRAINWASHED MOHAMEDDAN ZITOUNI.
    Did you not know that Mohammed even admitted that he sometimes forgot surahs. THAT shows that he was uncertain about his socalled
    "revelations".
    Proof: Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas'ud: … (Muhammad said) I am only a human being and I forget just as you do; so when I forget, remind me, … (Abu Dawud: book 3, number 1015, Hasan)
    Narrated 'Abdullah: … (Muhammad said) I am a human being like you and liable to forget like you. So if I forget remind me … (Bukhari: volume 1, book 8, number 394, Khan)
    Here you can read MUCH more about the stupidiness of your fake prophet Mohammed. :-) :-)

  156. NO REPLY ON THIS ONE OF THE EVIL MUSLIMS !!! hahahaha !!!

  157. Thanks for your reply DEMSCI.
    This Aminriadh is really a taqiyya muslim. This is no insult.
    He uses all the well-known muslim tricks.He really is a big LIAR.
    If somebody (we) makes this clear to him, he becomes even more evil !
    He(" the best of creatures") can't let go, and so he is helping us exposing his evil mindset..isn't that funny !! :-) :-)
    That is the sign that we are on the right track. :-)
    The ignorant political "correct" should and will wake up. I think humiliating the muslims can help in this. These ignorant start talking about asking :"why are they humiliating muslims; is there a reason for it…etc".
    Keep on fighting !! THE TRUTH WILL PEVAIL !!

  158. It is noteworthy to see how many non-muslims praise Ali Sina for his telling the truth about islam, but many (most?) muslims want to kill him.
    Likewise with other honest people !
    WHY IS THAT….MUSLIMS ??

  159. Please live to be a hundred years, dear Ali Sina. You are a man of great understanding and wisdom, in addition to boundless courage. A million good wishes to you from this Hindu. …. We are blessed to live in the same age as you Sir. Blessed is the mother than gave birth to you, and the land where you dwell now. …

  160. No , allah is the word for god in Arabic . But the NAME of Botros' god is JAHWEH !
    YEP…you BOTH showed your TAQIYYA (LIAR) " INTELLIGENCE" once more !!
    But for the sake of argument,assume that Botros IS an Idol worshipper, then you did admit that MUSLIMS ARE ALSO IDOL WORSHIPPS.!!! HAHAHA ! And that is exactly what I said. BWAHHAAA!!! Don't feel humiliated ..smart a$sses!

  161. Hey Taqiyya Mohammedan AmiRAT , are you trying to look smart?
    DO YOU MEAN YOUR STUPID QUESTION ABOUT : Christians calling their God "Allah".?
    1) Only Arabic speaking Christians say allah if they talk about god ( lower case "g").No other Christian in the world uses that name. Words can have more meanings !!! Silly kid.
    2) Ask ALL Christians ( the Arabs inclusive !) in the world to give the name of their God…and they will say JAHWEH (or Jehova), conform the Bible.
    The muslims will say: Allah ( or 98 other silly names) but certainly NOT jahweh. !!
    Man are you stupid !! Oh… Don't feel humiliated :-) !! (
    This is soooo funny !!!

  162. Hi Julia, Aminriadh responds thus to you:
    "If you were intelligent and educated . . .
    you wouldn't have the need to swear!
    - – -
    It is not me saying it . . . .
    . . . . it is your own fellow non-Muslims."

    I disagree with Aminriadh. He believes that insulting as a strategy has no merit. But I think it does have much effect.

    I think before Democracy came along; all brave critics of the rulers were censored, with great violence if they spoke their heart. Even if they did it respectfully, polite. At best reformers were ignored if they did that.

    And so in history we see time and again that desperate oppressed people finally resort to violent rebellion. How much better is the insulting way, provided there is no inciting to violence.

    And in the history of Democratic nations it really is true, that while insulting in the media may have gone up, violence really has come down.

    And evil and stupid rulers have been voted and gone out quietly, whereas in the past you could only get rid of them by killing them.

    And this means that the strategy of Ali Sina and you has much merit and is not some sort of a resort only, when people have no arguments or are beaten.

    Because still Ali Sina and you encourage Muslims to respond, whereas a dumb, authoritarian person would have tried to censor opponents long since. But you welcome, relish opponents to do their best (or worst).

    But Aminriadh is right when he says that many Non-Muslims are of the same opinion as he is. But we are of different opinion from both Aminriadh and all those political correct, often ignorant Westerners.

    I was glad you saw that different fighters have different ways.

  163. "'I cannot preach peace when we are ocupied do you get that in your mind ????"'

    Thanks for once again giving the perspective of Muslims, Zitouni. OK.

    There are several considerations I would like to respond with:

    - Colonial days are over. Most of your grievances may be already solved.
    - American military bases on your soil is no big problem. It is the same in Germany and Japan and the people there earn money from the military and don't complain. The governments are allies of America, yes, but by no means occupied by America.
    - It is said that Brazil, India, China and Russia, if united, are very strong opponents of America and their allies. So the West does not control the world any more and cannot do what it wants. Start worrying about the immense influence of China in Africa (in Angola there are now 3 million Chinese together with 9 million Angolese).

    - Look, you should carefully consider your grievances and consider whether other nations and even islamic nations are not guilty of exactly the same acts and attitudes that you reproach the West for. And consider forgiving, for your own good. Westerners also forgive a lot. Once English and France and also Germans and Russians were terrible enemies of each other, with much justified anger. But now they are friends.

    - The West very, very consistently, ever since the Cold War ended, pleads for power to the people, in democracy. You do remember the West ditched their allies Ali Ben Zine and Mubarak?!

    - Lastly; you do not need to help ME to achieve peace. But to help the Muslims. Look; it is said; If you cannot beat them, join them. And I warned you sternly, that if many of you Muslims keep being hostile and hateful and even violent against democratic nations;

    then inside democratic nations avalanches of the most horrid insults, on Islam, and especially on Mohammed, will be broadcasted and heaped on the Muslims.

    And for 99 % a part of Muslims brought this on all the Muslims, by being so stubborn anti-western and unforgiving.

    I was talking about a wise choice of the Muslims in the 21st century, and only then helping us, choosing for us to achieve a much more peaceful situation between Westerners/ Hindus and Muslims.

  164. NOBODY , NO MUSLIM ,NO MUSLIM SCHOLAR ETC. CAN SAY :"THIS IS WHAT THEY MEAN ".
    THAT WAS MY CLAIM !!!!
    Q.E.D.

    I have already said that your question is WRONG . You cannot ask about the meaning of alphabets in any damn language . Alphabet have no meaning whether in Arabic , english , French . Your querstion should be what are those Alphabet doing in koran and I explained the wisdom of God putting them in Koran . If you do not accept the explanation then there is nothing I can do to you .

  165. NOTE: Once more No Answer.

    As emphasized by the response. . . hence why all the hate has come gushing out!

    Another failure for it. Success!

  166. I LIKE THIS PLAYING WIT YOU MUSLIM BASTARDS !
    BE ANGRY !!! TAQIYYA MAN
    Al ILLAH is the same as ALLAH .HAHAHA !!
    That's why you muslim cry: LA ILAHA ILLA ALLAH !!! IS IT NOT LIAR !!!

  167. "SO WE HAVE ESTABLISHED NOW THAT ALLAH "PRAYS ON" MOHAMMED . "

    Another lie – claiming EXACT opposite . . . another OBVIOUS – OPEN and CLEAR LIE!

    See. . . to protect you position – what do you do? Resort to lying.

    Is that "thinking". Is that the "truth". You are full of lies. They are coming thick & fast now.

    - – -

    "Otherwise he should have used the word BARAKA IF HE MEANT "BLESS " ! "

    Or several other words . . . as it is apparent from all major Arabic dictionaries . . . Sala – also means "to bless".

    Why is it when it come to this . . . you own measure & standard . . . you fail?

    And go around making up lies?

  168. Ha ha ha – That is this persons intelligence level.

  169. Any evidence? Of course the word Existed . . .

    Allah means "The God"

    That is why the Christians and others use it. Illah – is the prime word meaning God.

    Al- Is the definite article.

    - – -

    "I think these christians don't know ?
    What is that to me? "

    Dear me . . . so your Botros – whose praises you were singing sky high . . . .doesn't know?

    Well why don't you try and tell him.

    - – -

    Ha ha ha ha – what is your education level? What subject?

    Did you even finish high school?

  170. THE SAME IDOL AS MOHAMMED TOOK AS HIS "ONLY"GOD (besides himself). The name existed already!
    I think these christians don't know ?
    What is that to me?

  171. Zitouni SAYS : "Allah is still praying , where is the word ONNNNNNNNNN ????????
    Why you keep playing games with us you are sick person you need to see a doctor. We told you 1000 times that Allah does not Pray he Prays OOOOONNNNN you get that on your dumb mind

    The phrase Allah prays never shows up in arabic as such . This is how it shows up Allah prays ONNNNNNN . "
    EXACTLY ,THANK YOU MUSLIM. "
    SO WE HAVE ESTABLISHED NOW THAT ALLAH "PRAYS ON" MOHAMMED . SO THE QUESTION REMAINS WHY THE WORD "PRAY"… TO WHOM DOES ALLAH "PRAY" ?? Otherwise he should have used the word BARAKA IF HE MEANT "BLESS " !

  172. See . . . once again. No answer except more insulting! Ha!

    - – -

    "WHAT A LIAR !!! "

    Yep – A liar – but no lies . . . which means you are the one lying!

  173. "And IT WAS I who gave you the link. LIAR AminRAT !! You only copy pasted ! "

    Yes – but YOU claimed EXACTLY the opposite from what the LINK actually said . . .

    That is why I pasted it in. To prove you wrong.

    - – -

    "With other words Muslims scholars DO NOT KNOW WHAT THESE (STUPID) LETTERS MEAN ! "

    See – you have changed your words now!

    - – -

    "If someone ask you an explanation , he wants of course THE ONLY RIGHT explanation. "

    Huh – what has this got to do with anything?

    - – -

    "That took a long time !! AminRAT. "

    Another lie . . . as this is what I said from the start . . . right from the first answer . . . not now.

    - – -

    Alif Lam Mim – and such verses are letter – they have no meaning. Simple.

    Scholar have given their own versions . . . but even they did not believe and said these were mere speculations.

    These letters represent communication – which wasn't disclosed.

  174. But that IS practicing one's religion . . . what else is it?

    - – -

    It is like signing up to the law of country . . . you follow the law that legislator dictates.

    What has that got to do with things?

  175. YOUR EYES ARE NOT OPEN BACKWARD MUSLIM SLAVE !!
    WHAT A LIAR !!!

  176. YOU IMAGINE YOU DID ,CRETIN.
    You are dilusional just like your fake prophet Mohammed

  177. See – you even admit it! You have long ran out . . . other than petty insults of course. . . . let them all out!

  178. "This was really pathetic. "

    As it is abundantly clear . . . you always say such thing . . . so they don't mean anything . . . .

    other than – you dont have an argument.

    - – -

    "There are even words missing in the oldest Qurans, and of course the diacritic signs. "

    What words . . . evidence or lies.

    - – -

    "You are in the corner and you cannot get out anymore !! "

    Oh dear . . . but it is apparent to anyone following this strand . . . that you are the one who has left many many objections unanswered . . .

    And you always claim such things. And they mean nothing – just highlight . . .

    You cannot answer!

    - – -

    This was about Botros and Salah . . . . and you attempted to divert. . .

    ha ha ha . . . .

    where is this support? Where is your lone supporter?

    Why doesn't he say . . . that you are "intelligent" – "knowledgeable"

    Ha ha . . . where have these attributes gone?

    - – - –

    Why did you NOT answer? Hence I have to repeat

    Oh dear . . . EVEN you don't believe what this scholar says . . . .

    for one thing – you have not EVER read a single work of his.

    So you don't really know what he is saying.

    - – -

    And second – just look at the number of times . . . YOU have used quran as evidence against. . . . how can you do that . . . . if the book is unreadable?

    - – -

    Then let's look at your history of "experts" . . . . 1st its was me who had the title. Then you claimed the opposite – when it suited you.

    Then you brought forth . . . . Botros – then that fell on its head.

    Now you have got another name.

    - – - –

    Again – you have not read a single work of his – just fallacious one-sided article on the net.

    - – - –

    " IF YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT EVERY FITH SENTENCE OR SO SIMPLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE."

    This simply means . . . your "expert" wasn't up to the job and he couldn't read Arabic.

    Else – Quran.com – every bit is translated.

  179. "Just like I said : ALIF,LAM, MEEM Is PURE ARABIC . IT ARE PURE ARABIC LETTERS. BUT THESE ARE ALSO LETTERS FROM YOUR EVIL ALLAH. Not like some letters in English ! "

    And . . . see – again no point – no argument. Oh dear . . . everyone knows they are Arabic letters.

    What was the point of mentioning that!

    - – -

    He he. . . another failure . . .

  180. HERE ARE SOME NON-CHRISTIANS WHO WILL MAKE YOU HAPPY: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfuoulm-i8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3O6ZmGNi0
    When you have listened ,you can start your afd hominems !! Hahaha
    It will not make any difference at all !!
    THE TRUTH ALWAYS PREVAILS . Just as with AminRAT and the crazy letters ALIf,LAM ,MEEM in your evil Quran.

  181. I said there is NO EXPLANATION for them. Clarity has got nothing to do with it. Something I have never said.

    Truth is NOT your asset as proven repeatedly.

    - – -

    "Yet you did ! Congratulations ! It is a beginning "

    This too is another meaningless lie.

    - – -

    Oh dear . . . more failure?

    More inability not to answer?

    Hence either relying on swear, lies . . . or attempts at being funny.

    - – -

    Ha ha ha ha

  182. YOU DID ALREADY ADMIT THAT THERE IS NO CLEAR EXPLANTATION FOR THE SILLY LETTERS: ALIF,LAM,MEEM etc.
    NOBODY , NO MUSLIM ,NO MUSLIM SCHOLAR ETC. CAN SAY :"THIS IS WHAT THEY MEAN ".
    THAT WAS MY CLAIM !!!!
    Q.E.D.
    Because you are brainwashed it is very difficult for you to admit something which is not according to tour evil CULT Islam. Yet you did ! Congratulations ! It is a beginning :-)

  183. THANK YOU FOR ADMITTING : "The MEANING and PUPOSE of these letters is UNCERTAIN. :-)
    There have been a VARIETY of EXPLANATINOS offered by Muslim scholars through the ages ". As I SAID FROM THE BEGINNING !!! And IT WAS I who gave you the link. LIAR AminRAT !! You only copy pasted !
    With other words Muslims scholars DO NOT KNOW WHAT THESE (STUPID) LETTERS MEAN !
    A VARIETY OF EXPLANATIONS MEANS OF COURSE THAT THERE IS NO (!) DEFINITIVE EXPLANATION.
    If someone ask you an explanation , he wants of course THE ONLY RIGHT explanation.
    That took a long time !! AminRAT.

  184. Just like I said : ALIF,LAM, MEEM Is PURE ARABIC . IT ARE PURE ARABIC LETTERS. BUT THESE ARE ALSO LETTERS FROM YOUR EVIL ALLAH. Not like some letters in English !

  185. DEAR AminRAT .
    This was really pathetic.
    There are even words missing in the oldest Qurans, and of course the diacritic signs.
    Of course you TAQIYYA muslims say , being the LIARS you are. every bit is translated.
    YOU ARE SOOOO PATHETIC AND FUNNY.
    You are in the corner and you cannot get out anymore !!
    Hahahahahaha!!

  186. Hello evil muslim Zitouni.
    AllI can say is :
    HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA ! I LIKE
    THIS !!!!!

  187. LISTEN BRAINWASHED MUSLIM!!YES YOU ARE :-)
    YOU ARE NOT PRACTICING A RELIGION. YOU ARE FOLLOWING OBEYING (without thinking) A CRAZY AND EVIL FAKE PROPHET.
    AND THAT MAKES ISLAM A EVIL BIG CULT !!!
    WITHOUT DARING TO THINK ,YOU HAVE TO OBEY:
    Surah 33:36 says clearly:"
    It is not fitting for a Believer man or woman when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Apostle to have any option about their decision: if anyone disobeys Allah and His Apostle he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path." YEP ….THE TRUTH . I PITY YOU ,SLAVE !!!!

  188. OH DEAR ! THANK YOU FOR YOUR LONG REACTION !
    I see I am still HURTING YOU !! HAHAHA !

  189. If it is NOT A BIG DEAL TO YOU WHAT I SAY WHY ARE YOU REACTING STUPID MAN !!!
    That is exactly what I find so funny about you !!!
    What a backward clown you are !!! GOOD LORD ! (not tyour fake gos Allah of course) . :-)

  190. BECAUSE YOU ARE A TAQIYYA SPECIALIST YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TRUTH AND LIES ANYMORE !!!
    YOU ARE PURE EVIL. JUST LIKE YOUR EVIL CULT, YOUR EVIL QURAN AND YOUR EVIL FAKE PROPHET !!!
    Is this enough to make your EVIL blood boil, MUSLIMRAT !!??
    This is funny!

  191. "YOU ARE STIL THR LIAR !! "

    Without a single evidence for a single lie . . . hence this is ALSO a lie.

    - – -

    "DO YOU REALY THINK THAT I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT SALA ? "

    On what basis do you disagree . . .

    I successfully exposed that to be fallacious, lies and bogus.

    This is why you are Brainwashed . . .
    when proved doubt – you were caught lying . . .

    you will still cling to its lies . . .

    - – -

    But no one expected better – from net troll.

    - – -

    If you were intelligent and educated . . .
    you wouldn't have the need to swear!

    - – -

    It is not me saying it . . . .

    . . . . it is your own fellow non-Muslims.

    Troll!

  192. REALY….REALY….REALY ?
    Stupid kid!!

  193. THESE NON-MUSLIMS SPEAK ARABIC BECAUSE THEY WERE SUBJUCATED BY THE VIOLENT CRAZY MUSLIM ARABS !!
    Even a kid can understand this.

  194. "This is a verse of your IDIOTIC AND EVIL QURAN. "

    But the argument is yours – and fallacious. Even you have realized it.

    Hence you have no reply. This is why you repeat. And swear.

    Hence – why you have such low support.

    Not even here . . . as no one likes a troll.

  195. I DO WHAT I WANT !!
    I ma not a slave.
    YOU ARE a SLAVE. A STUPID BACKWARD SLAVE .
    AND I can see that you are very agry. AND THAT IS GOOD !! IT IS MY GOAL.

  196. Just replies – hate filled – pitiful – and nothing more.

    This is why Julia swears. No argument left. This claim it has something to do with Quran – Well that was exposed as an utter fabrication and fallacious long ago.

  197. YOU CAN NOT HUMILIATE ME …AminRAT..I ONLY LAUGH ABOUT YOUR BABBLING.
    YOU MUSLIMS HAVE A VERY LOW SELF -ESTEEM….OF COURSE.
    SO YOU CAN EASILY BE HUMILIATED.
    THAT'S THE REASON YOU KEEP COMMING BACK !! AND I LIKE THAT . I CAN GO ON HUMILIATING YOU EVIL LOW-LIFE !!! Hhahahahaha !(OUCH…as you use to say ! ) :-)
    THE TIME FOR ISLAM IS OVER.
    ISLAM IS DYING BECAUSE IT IS ROTTEN INSIDE FROM ITS BEGINNING !!

  198. "SEARCH THE LINK YOURSELF ,MUSLIM-SLAVE."

    You mean you made it up – hence you have reverted to this.

    But it IS your job to present your evidence. Hence a lie.

    Another one.

  199. SEARCH THE LINK YOURSELF ,MUSLIM-SLAVE.
    DO you really think I am gonna help a low-life like you….THE WORST OF CREATION ! ??? OF COURSE NOT ,STUPID !
    GO ON , CRETIN. I LIKE IT TO BELITTLE A ARROGANT CRETIN LIKE YOU ! Hahahahahaha!

  200. YOu HAVE REPLIED WITH PURE NON-SENSE !
    What a backward , brainwashed moron you are !! :-)
    Pathetic !

  201. I LIKE THAT : THE IDIOTIC "ALIF, LAM,MEEM"-thing.
    This is a verse of your IDIOTIC AND EVIL QURAN.
    I CAN NOT AGREE MORE !!!
    But you are a BIG sinner now …..HAHAHAHA
    What a clown you are. NOW WE HAVE TWO MUSLIMS CLOWNS HERE : AminRAT AND ZITOUNI ! BWHOOOHAHAAA !!

  202. OF COURSE IT IS ABOUT LYING, YOU CRETIN.
    What is it with your childish "OUCH".
    YOU ARE THE STUPID ONE TO COME BACK. I SLAM YOU AND HUMILIATE YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN.
    I LIKE THAT …SO THANKS FOR THAT AND FOR SHOWING HOW BRAINWASHED YOU ARE ! HAHAHA
    ALIF,LAM,MEEM ….OUCH !!!!! :-)

  203. "WE CAN NOT DELETE VERSES FROM THE QURAN TO BE MAKE FEEL HAPPY."
    I think you mean to make US FEEL HAPPY?
    WELL,IDIOT, I DON'T CARE , What you CAN OR CAN NOT.
    THE FACT IS THAT YOU BELIEVE IN AN VERY EVIL BOOK AND THAT FACT MAKES TOU VERY EVIL.
    BUT DONT THINK THAT WE LET YOU GO ON WITH THIS CRAP !! STUPID ,MALICIOUS MORON!!!

  204. DO YOU REALY THINK THAT I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT SALA ?
    OF COURSE NOT ,MORON !!
    YOU ARE STIL THR LIAR !!
    You muslims LIED about this since 1400 years !I STICK TO THAT !!
    YOU ARE AN EVIL BASTARD !!! NOTHING CHANGED !

  205. Your Botros is refering to God as Allah LOL you have just made your Botros idol worshiper LOL

  206. If I may; do we see here in the minds of many Muslims some kind of "'hatred", "cold war" against the West, America, Israel, Canada, European Union, Australia?

    Not quite true . There are hatred wirth USA because they ocupy M east , ilegal state of Israel bedcause the ocupy Palestine no hate against Canada , Australia or scadanivian nation such as Holond , Sweden , norway , Finlande . What I do not understand is this you ocupy my land you are responsible of our misery and you still want me to LOVE YOU . are you drunk or what . I cannot preach peace when we are ocupied do you get that in your mind ???? . There would not have been any Qaida or any so called terrorist group if you guys have had stayed in your backward . Qaida demand are leave our lands and those demand are secular not religious ones . It was used by ocupied German nations , Vietnamese , Latin American nations , but Muslims are forbiden from demanding that . I cannot help you to ahve paece with Muslim as long as you are still fooling aroud in our land. Nations that host military bases of the enemy can never achieve any progress of any kind .

  207. Hello MUSLIM-DUMMIES !
    HERE can you again LISTEN TO a NATIVE ARABIC SPEAKER , I.Q.RASSOOLI. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xfuoulm-i8
    This man explains AGAIN that ALLAH PRAYS OVER MOHAMMED.
    The MUSLIMS DID AND STILL DO THEIR UTMOST TO DENY THIS FACT. That is why they are so fanatic when sombody brings up this topic. From the beginning of Islam the muslims try to say that SALA can mean BLESS when it comes from Allah, because they saw the big mistake the narcisistic Mohammed made in his Quran. That's why it is also in the dictionaries ; MUSLIMS USE THIS DECEPTION FOR CENTURIES NOW !!!
    Many other critical clips about Islam of I.Q. Rassooli are here : http://www.al-rassooli.com/blog/

  208. YOUR EVIL AND backward MUSLIM BROTHER AMIRAT thinks I am WHITE ! IHE IS A RACIST !! A white hindu in India????? Hahahahaha! It is possible but…i think that it is MORE possible that the devil sleeps in your nose as your EVIL FAKE PROPHET SAID !!! BWWWAAAAAHAAAAAHOOO HAAAA !!!!
    I think AminRAT IS A RACIST…Don't you think so Backward Mohammedan ALI(en) too ??? :-)

  209. NO STUPID KID.
    THE INDJEEL (GOSPELS) are THE authority for CHRISTIANS…
    That's why it is called THE NEW TESTAMENT. Do you see it..NEW !!!
    And there is NO death punishment for apostates in it. !!
    You are being FOOLED by your EVIL IMAM AGAIN.
    Not even the JEWS (OLD Testament) do such EVIL THINGS anymore !!

  210. THANK YOU MUSLIM-DUMMIE MITU, for showing us your EVIL AND BRAINWASHED MUSLIM MINDSET !!!

  211. HELLO MUSLIM-DUMMIES!!
    Especially the EVIL BACKWARD TAQIYYA MOHAMMEDAN AminRAT !! : -)
    Allah does not only PRAY to himself …HE IS ALSO THE GREATEST BLASPHEMER There ever was or will be. !! He commits the biggest UNFORGIVABLE SIN you can do in Islam …SHIRK !!
    Listen to this SCHOLAR , he makes this completely clear to you!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz7QwOAf4Ww&f
    TRY TO REFUTE IT MUSLIMS !!! HAHAHAHAHA ! What a silly bunch of backward morons these Muslim-dummies are !

  212. HELLO MUSLIM-DUMMIES !
    It is not easy to be a muslim ,I know.
    Constantly you have to defend your BACKWARD CULT ! And the ONLY defence you have is USING LIES! Here is a nice example how AN NATIVE ARABIC SPEAKER CRUSHES YOUR EVIL QURAN.
    It is about ALLAH praying to himself ( YES …AGAIN ! :-) ) ,we are not done yet !! Hahahaha!
    This is a video clip of CHRISTIAN PRINCE . Mind you I'm NOT a CHRISTIAN . But this man speaks the TRUTH about this ITEM. LISTEN AND LOOK HOW THIS MAN PROVES (!) THAT MUSLIMS ALWAYS TRANSLATE THE QURAN IN A WICKED WAY. QUESTION: WHY ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3O6ZmGNi0&f
    Muslims we know what you will say: This man is not an Islamic scholar ( how would you know that), the man is an evil Christian, this man can not even talk good english ….blah,blah…etc.etc.

  213. NO REACTION ON TIS ONE FROM THE EVIL TAQIYYA MUSLIMS !
    THAT IS STRANGE !!!
    COME ON AminRAT ,"THE MUSLIM-DUMMIE" ….YOU SEEMED SO SURE OF YOURSELF ……HHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA !!

  214. Thanks for your reply, Aminriadh.

    Hypocrisy? I take this seriously, I think about it. Maybe.

    But I believe in the Golden Rule. So, I do not want to be hurt in my body, so I will never hurt another person physically. So, I do not want to be harassed on the street, in the workplace, so I never do that myself to others, including Muslims.

    But I accept to be highly insulted myself and the humans I most love and/ or revere, on the internet, tv and in newspapers. So I condone that by people on my side.

    I do have an intellectual approach, but I do recognize, and fear, your intelligence and eloquence. I do acknowledge that I sometimes feel small, because I do acknowledge that you wupp my ass, and show me my mistakes and shortcomings. But I learn from them.

    But I follow my ideas, ideals and try to help my allies.

    You ask me why I do not insult and swear myself? Good Question. I think it is because I genuinely respect most opponents and what they have to say. and I acknowledge my own imperfection.

    And because I fear the same excruciating, scathing reactions people like Ali Sina and Julia do get, who are much more courageous than I am.

    But I openly declare that counterjihadists can play openly, not secretly, like the police "good cop, bad cop". And I really believe that "good cops" like me, even on a global scale, just won''t be effective enough. We need the bad cops badly.

    You and I obviously disagree about effectiveness of insults. But I meant it on a worldwide scale, not on a personal scale.

    Although I often notice in conversations with Muslims, that it is very useful to speak against something Geert Wilders says, which I genuinely may not like. Because then indeed my position is better taken into consideration by Muslims. Without people like Geert Wilders my position was not taken so well into consideration in the past.

    About you answering me; yes, to an extent. and it was provoking me to think, yes.

    But the way you answer often shows your poor understanding or poor respect of my positions.

    And you call short and rude dismissals of my positions "Answers", when they are not.

    But more judgemental, pejorative, derogatory, and yes, insulting responses.

    And I won't react to your posts, when you not first reacted to my post.

    And the reason that when I react to your posts, without you first reacting to mine, you start to claim I did not answer your points enough, that I ignore your points. But now you reacted to me first. So it is my post that you have to respond to first as per your way of thinking.

  215. OK, I read your post, twice, so, I see, that is the perspective of many Muslims.

    Of course I have a very different perspective, about the past.

    But what should be perspectives about the future for both sides?

    You ask me to ask myself why Chinese, Brazilian,South Korean, Japanese did not have problem with us (Muslims?), why just white racists? Very good question.

    If I may; do we see here in the minds of many Muslims some kind of "'hatred", "cold war" against the West, America, Israel, Canada, European Union, Australia?

    Whereas both the West and say, the Ummah are relatively peaceful to non-Western non-Muslim countries, like China, Japan, Russia, Brazil, India and almost all other countries?

    Yes, you did explain your motivations. But perhaps even you can see that most injustice is in the past. And nowadays the West sure is no longer all-powerful. The other big countries mentioned are growing rapidly and effectively uniting and strong against the West.

    Now, you mentioned the counter-jihadists Ali Sina and Robert Spencer and you mean many others to be included in that group, I suppose.

    And you think that those counterjihadists are being paid by "the West".

    But it is my opinion that in the Muslim world there is so much hatred and hostility against the West and it is expressed so often and so vehemently and that is recorded by counterjihadists. In a steady stream of articles.

    And now comes into play the reaction of Westerners, and Indian Hindus too, by the way, to the hatred and hostility in word and deeds, of Muslims to the West, and Hindus.

    And Muslims will always have to be prepared to receive criticism and it will always be spiced with the heaviest insults.

    But I suppose that the criticism and insults against Muslims is many times higher than it has to be in this time-period, maybe 100 times as high as normal?

    The West, Hindus versus the Muslims; there seems to be a big cold war.

    My hope is both sides somehow achieve peace, coexistence and cooperation. Against organised crime, human trafficking, or extremely bad nations, like North Korea.

    But if the Muslims continue to fight the West, then they should be informed that among all those millions of highly educated, eloquent, informed Westerners there will be many, hundreds times as many as would be normal under peace, who will deeply insult-hurt Muslims.

    But only with words, never with violence, but words are enough, we know that they hurt Muslims deeply. Also the innocent, yes, but they can "'''zap'"'''' away from the internet, tv, newspapers. And understand that, under circumstances, Insulting Muslims is lawful in the West and India.

    By observation of Islams holy texts and what Muslims say and do and proliferation of this info in the West and India. Ensuring that Islam and Muslims will be mercilessly scrutinied and insulted.

    So the conscious Muslims better seek ways to make peace with the bulk of the Westerners and Indians.

    I know my suggestions look outlandish to you, but it is much better for innocent Muslims to secede from Islam-supremacists, like Anjem Choudary, the Ayatollahs, Taliban, Al Qaida etc and ally yourself with democratic nations. AGAINST THESE ISLAM-SUPREMACISTS. With which of course conscious Westerners can never make deals, because the supremacists want to subjugate them, they do not just want to defend their homelands, like you maybe.

    And in the process to create some sort of New Islam, with conditions upon membership, forbidding Muslims to be and stay IN New Islam, if they do not abide to those conditions.

    Instead of Old, normal Islam, which forbids Muslims to get OUT of Islam. But that rule alone, makes it impossible for you to defend Islam and all your fellow-Muslims.

    And makes it possible that they interpret and practice Islam totally different from you, and the Islamic scholars often too, negating all your efforts to explain Islam to counterjihadists, neutrals, even in the long run to the neutral nations, like China etc.

  216. Dear Crazy man, Mr darkfire316, I'm really very glad to know that you've finally decided to give up on stalking me like a creepy stalker. Merci beaucoup! ;)

  217. Adios Crazy lady. Have fun lying about your intentions and using Christianity as a shield.

  218. MUSLIM STANDARD ?????
    You muslims are a bunch of primitive people !!! You cannot invent or make a single thing. Every thing you know is STOLEN from the"KAFIRS".
    You have no great scholars at all. No Noble prize winners. NOTHING !
    Most muslim countries are poor and backward ! And it is all because of the JEWS, THE WEST, THE KAFIRS etc.etc. Only the oil-arabs have much money, but the do nothing USEFUL fir their "BROTHERS".
    All non-muslims despise you !!

    All scholars of koran were and are Muslims . I asked you to bring me one single name of scholar of Islam and koran who was not Muslim so far could not

  219. OH,stupid muslim BUT you DO care ! Why else do you keep returning here. After I CLEARLY SAID TO YOU EVIL MUSLIMS THAT I AM HUMILIATING YOU .
    THAT IS WHAT I AM DOING.
    BUT YOU ARE SOOOOO ARROGANT THAT YOU CANNOT BELIEVE THAT !!! HAHAHAHA !!!

    I am just exposing your lies and Botros lies so readers here will not be fooled . I have humiliated you and showed that Botros is Arabic ignorant while you thought that he was Arabic scholar LOL

  220. And then pious Muslims have the nerve to complain about "no face to face debates". With the likes of pious Muslims like Mitu, opinion and disagreement is rendered as worthy of;

    mitu says "you ali sina son of bitch come bangladesh i will kill you".

    Under no guarantee or conditions should Sina ever agree to any debate but by the written word.

    Bangladesh isn't that where the Kaaba is located at?

  221. Mr darlfire316, there's nothing wrong for me to ask you how you've lost your balls or hairy testicles? Why are you so dirty minded all the time?

  222. I have said all this – you hoped to paste a quick link – and attempt to get away with it.

    That is why I pasted the material – and forced your hand – to reveal your easy and open lies.

    - – -

    This is why you have such less support among your supposed fellows.

    No one wants to get their hands dirty.

    Not over you.

    - – -

    I mean your lying . . . when you claim look a word in a dictionary – and then when one does – posts it up . . .

    then one sits and wonders . . . why did this person – make such a cock-up.

    it is OBVIOUS – this person hasn't even heard of an Arabic dictionary.

    - – -

    I mean that was silly thing to do . . . especially on the back of an unreferenced article.

    - – -

    Such open lies . . . they are embarrassing – hence no one is willing to stick their neck out.

    Not even your lone supporter.

  223. "BUT IT SAYS ALSO:The meaning and purpose of these letters is uncertain. There have been a variety of explanations offered by Muslim scholars through the ages."

    Yes . . . something i clearly explain – right from the start.

    Yet you could not produce any counter argument – other than . . .

    Swearing.

  224. "YOU ARE ,AGAIN, THE LIAR….OF COURSE .
    YOU ARE A TAQIYYA MUSLIM !!! "

    See more false claims . . . more lies. As swearing doesn't matter to you. being racist doesn't. . . neither does lying.

    False accusation don't matter to you either.

    - – -

    Another clear false accusation – another lie to the count.

    - – -

    If you have the "truth" – then why are you lying so openly?

    And so unashamedly?

    And it is so easy to expose them

  225. Hang on my dear . . . it is YOU who has just been racist to ALL Arabs are as race . . . regardless of religion.

    - – -

    " IT are you muslims who are always playing the victim of racism. "

    Evidence? Or is it more lying?

    - – -

    "But what about the PREJUDICE and the evil name calling ???That is alright with you???"

    I don't do that – you do that.

    - – - – -

    "You try to get away from this, with a "RED HERRING" , sneaky bastard !! HAHAHA !!! "

    But what "red herring" explain it – give evidence . . . else it another false accusation – and more lying.

    More lies being exposed. But you have no shame – as lying is part of your morality.

    Truth and proper stands – you have no regards for them.

    As all you do is spurt out hate.

    Why?

    Because as repeatedly evidenced – you have successfully brainwashed yourself.

  226. "HAT A CLOWN !!!!! HAHAHA !!!! YOU ARE DESPERATE , that is clear ! A HUMILIATED MUSLIM . I LIKE THAT !!!!
    A MUSLIM-DHIMMIE OR RATHER A MUSLIM -DUMMIE ! "

    See . . . you claim to have the "truth" . . . yet you cannot stretch beyond a few childish insults.

    How embarrassing. And it is ALWAYS you who descend to this farce and never me.

    - – -

    "YOU ARE DESPERATE , that is clear"

    Wow – so unoriginal – that you have to repeat my words. he he – that is sign of desperation.

    - – -

    "A HUMILIATED MUSLIM "

    Oh but my dear . . . it is YOUR lies that have been exposed.

    And you could not defend yourself – other than few playground childish swears . . . .

    West's finest brain is it? I hope not – for West's sake.

  227. IT are you muslims who are always playing the victim of racism.
    It is you muslims who widened the definition.
    But what about the PREJUDICE and the evil name calling ???That is alright with you???
    You try to get away from this, with a "RED HERRING" , sneaky bastard !! HAHAHA !!!

  228. HAT A CLOWN !!!!! HAHAHA !!!! YOU ARE DESPERATE , that is clear ! A HUMILIATED MUSLIM . I LIKE THAT !!!!
    A MUSLIM-DHIMMIE OR RATHER A MUSLIM -DUMMIE ! :-)

  229. DO YOU SEE IT EVIL TAQIYYA MUSLIM :
    SEVERAL VOLUMES HAVE BEEN WRITTEN ON THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THESE LETTERS (ABBREVATIONS ??), BUT …."The meaning and purpose of these letters is uncertain."!!!!!!
    YOU ARE ,AGAIN, THE LIAR….OF COURSE .
    YOU ARE A TAQIYYA MUSLIM !!!

  230. i. These letters might be abbreviations for certain sentences and words for instance, Alif Laam Meem means Ana-Alahu – a -Laam or Nun meaning Noor (light), etc.
    ii. These letters are not abbreviations but symbols and names of Allah or something else.
    iii. These letters were used for rhyming.
    iv. These letters have some numerical significance as the semitic letters also have numerical values.
    v. These letters were used to attract the attention of the Prophet (and later his audience).
    Several volumes have been written on the significance of these abbreviations.

  231. AHA …I SEE… YOU COPY PASTED MY LINK . http://www.irf.net/index.php?option=com_content&a
    BUT IT SAYS ALSO:The meaning and purpose of these letters is uncertain. There have been a variety of explanations offered by Muslim scholars through the ages. A few among them are: (To be continued ).

  232. "LYING IS INDEED BENEATH ME EVIL MUSLIM. "

    Then why do you do it?

    Have you got an answer for YOUR lies . . .

    - – -

    Ouch!

    This response makes it ABSOLUTELY clear – you haven't.

    Hence you couldn't answer.

    - – -

    It is CLEAR – you are the only one lying.

    As you are NOT able to defend your lies . . . . .

    and you have NOT given any evidence that i have lied.

    What lie?

    - – -

    Hence your bogus claims means they too are you lies.

    Even more lies.

    - – - –

    Hence more and more nonsense.

    = = = =

    " YOU ARE PATHETIC and an evil TAQIYYA MUSLIM of course !! "

    Of course – of course . . . then why it that YOU are the one caught lying? And not mean . . . .

    I mean – you come out with it – but calling some liar – without ANY proof whatsoever of lie – in itself is a lie!

    So why are you lying? If such things are beneath you?

    - – -

    "DO YOU REALLY THINK THE thinking READERS (not the brainwashed muslims of course) WILL BELIEVE YOU?? "

    This is site of your fellows . . . not MINE!

    Yet look how little support you get . . . one lone supporter – even HE has changed his tune.

    First you were "intelligent" and "knowledgeable" when that is challenged . . . he has dropped this.

    Even he says . . . you spread insults. Ha! And at first he denied this.

    - – -

    Hence you have resorted to ask . . . . "WILL BELIEVE YOU?? "

    Answer – yes!

    Because it is one "merit"

    Because if ANYONE ventured to support you then they will have to provide evidence for their claims . . . failing that then too will be implicated.

    HENCE – why YOU get so little a support.

    - – -

    Clearly COULD NOT ANSWER!

  233. See even more lies . . . and more open lies . . . anyone actually reading this will notice. That there are meanings given and offered.

    - – - –

    The human body is composed of various fundamental elements that are found in nature. Clay and dust are composed of the same fundamental elements. Yet it would be absurd to say that a human being is exactly the same as the dust.

    We can all have access to the elements that are found in the human body, and add a few gallons of water, which is the constitution of the human body. We know the elements in the human body and yet we are at a loss when asked the secret of life.

    Similarly the Qur'an addresses those people who reject its Divine authority. It tells them that this Qur'an, is in your own language, and over which the Arabs took pride. It is composed of the same letters that the Arabs used to express themselves most eloquently.

    The Arabs were very proud of their language and Arabic was at its peak when the Qur'an was revealed. With the letters Alif Laam Meem, Yaa Seen, Ha-Meem, etc., (in Engllish we would say A, B, C, D) the Qur'an challenges mankind to produce a Surah at least somewhat similar to the Qur'an in beauty and elegance, if they doubt its authenticity.

    Initially, the Qur'an challenges all the men and jinn to produce a recital like the Qur'an and adds that they would not be able to do it even if they backed each other. This challenge is mentioned in Surah Isra chapter 17 verse 88 and in Surah Tur chapter 52 verse 34.

    Later the Qur'an repeats the challenge in Surah Hud chapter 11 verse 13 by saying produce ten surahs like it and later in Surah Yunus chapter 10 verse 38 produce one surah like it and finally the easiest challenge is given in Surah Al-Baqarah chapter 2 verses 23 and 24.

    "And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Surah like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (if there are any) besides Allah if your doubts are true.

    But if ye cannot – and of a surety ye cannot – then fear the fire whose fuel is men and stones – which is prepared for those who reject faith."
    [Al-Qur'an 2:23-24]

    To compare the skill of two artisans, they must be given samples of the same raw material and their performance evaluated in performing the same task. If they are tailors they must be provided with the same fabrics. The raw materials of the Arabic language are these letters Alif Laam Meem, Ya Seen (in English it is A, B, C, D, etc.) The miraculous nature of the language of the Qur'an does not lie only in the fact that it is the Word of Allah, but also in the fact that although made up of the same letters in which the pagan Arabs took pride, it has not been rivalled.

    The Arabs are noted for their rhetoric ability, eloquence and meaningful expression. Just as the constituents of the human body are known to us and can be obtained by us, the letters comprising the Qur'an, such as Alif Laam Meem are known to us, and used frequently to formulate words. Life cannot be created by us, even if we possess knowledge of the constituents of the human body. Similarly we cannot capture the same eloquence and beauty of expression that we find in the Qur'an, despite knowing the letters that constitute the Qu'ran. The Qur'an thus proves its Divine origin.

    - – - –

    Think! Before posting – then you might not end up "humiliating" yourself"

  234. "So why are you lying? If such things are beneath you? "
    LYING IS INDEED BENEATH ME EVIL MUSLIM.
    WHY DO YOU THINK I CALL YOU A TAQIYYA MUSLIM ??? HAHAHAHA
    TAQIYYA IS IN THE QURAN AND IN ISLAM ALL OVER.
    READ THIS : http://schnellmann.org/taqiyyah.html

  235. "
    IF YOU CALL :"I DONT KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN '" an explanation!!! Then you are realy done.
    This muslim is completely crazy.
    But I think it is good that the readers see how these brainwashed pathetic muslims think.
    "

    Another example of lying . . . as that is NOT what I said – in its entirety.

    And the rest – well the swearing is saying – I have lost. No more argument.

    He he

  236. See – how when arguments run out – this person just swears.

    And nothing more.

    - – -

    It is CLEAR s/he has lost to Muslim.

  237. "Prejudice and racist is that ALL disbelievers are dumb , blind and deaf, the worst beast etc."

    And how is that racism? If it was true?

    "Racism is usually defined as views, practices and actions reflecting the belief that humanity is divided into distinct biological groups called races and that members of a certain race share certain attributes which make that group as a whole less desirable, more desirable, inferior or superior.["

    Wiki –
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

    - – -

    Surah 7:179 says: " And indeed We have created many jinns and men for hell; they have hearts in which there is no understanding; and the eyes they do not see with; and the ears they do not hear with; they are like cattle – in fact more astray; it is they who are the neglectful."

    Surah 8:22 says: " Indeed the worst beasts in the sight of Allah are those (people) who are deaf, dumb – who do not have any sense."

    - – -

    Think! Think and Think Some more!

    See – how your nonsense gets exposed!

  238. "The EVIL TAQIYYA MUSLIM AminRAT SAYS NOW THAT HIS OWN QURAN IS NONSENSE !!! "

    Another example of lie – As i have clearly said no such thing.

    - – -

    In best hope this person is just pasting up references – desperately now!

    The thing is . . . why go down this lying road in the first place.

    - – -

    I truly pity you.

    - – -

    According to the link:

    Remember how the Unbelievers plotted against thee, to keep thee in bonds, or slay thee, or get thee out (of thy home). They plot and plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah.

    Quran 8:30

  239. "You muslim can not embarrass us. "

    But it isn't my intention to embarrass anyone.

    You do that to yourself.

    - – -

    For example – this Sala – and how you lied about it.

    Then your lies became exposed. And that is embarrassing.

    - – -

    What is EVEN worse is that – you draw attention to yourself . . . you highlight – that you have no argument left.

    And you attempt to project your feeling onto me.

    You are the one who come out with such . . . derogatory nonsense. You fall upon it. it is your own sword.

    - – -

    I have open arms of love for you. Pity and sadness.

    - – -

    But your swearing . . . he he – what poor standard and morals . . .

    hey! Good luck to you.

    I have pity for you . . .

    - – -

    I can guess what you life has been like.

    Father probably ran off – mother with lots of different men . . . no parental love
    - no one to teach you.

    I mean – you are NOT very educated.

    I mean – I truly pity you. How sad.

  240. See – all argument has run out of this person. . . hence the insults – and nothing more.

    - – -

    This person set itself up – yet fell on its own sword.

    Ouch!

    - – -

    How humiliating for you my dear . . . but you HIGHLIGHT your own shame.

    This answer simply EMPHASIZES how right I am! And how inadequate.

    Because if you COULD answer . . . you would have done.

    - – - –

    "WE LAUGH ABOUT YOU HERE…..HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THAT TO YOU , MORON !! "

    If you are really laughing . . . then why do you have to say it?

    - – -

    Isn't it painfully OBVIOUS – I have completely EXPOSED – all you lies . . . .

    with merit.

    - – -

    But I am not here to humiliate you . . . I have arms of love open for you any day.

    It is you who says you want to humiliate me . . . not me to you.

    I am not a hate monger.

    - – -

    My dear . . . when you lie so openly and it is pointed out . . . then all the come back you have left is NASTY hate . . . .

    This shows you up.

    - – -

    I truly pity you.

  241. The EVIL TAQIYYA MUSLIM AminRAT SAYS NOW THAT HIS OWN QURAN IS NONSENSE !!!
    "Ha ha – we looked at this . . . and it turned out – it was nothing more than your nonsense. And I am being kind to you here."
    I CANNOT AGREE MORE !!!! BWAHAAAAAhhahahha !!
    Read the surah 8: 30 ( and more evelness like it): http://www.muslimaccess.com/quraan/arabic/008.asp

  242. What does all that have to do with anything?

    See -argument has run out of this person . . . hence the swearing.

    How humiliating – losing to a Muslim!

  243. See – full racist abuse . . . out in the open. Regardless of religion . . . for example – many non-Muslims speak it . Learn it, praise it.

    Regardless of all that . . .

    - – -

    See how your HATE is at full flow?

    You even spout non-sense about language.

    Which doesn't even belong to Muslims!

    - – -

    You really have exposed yourself.

  244. "Ali Sina does not react on you because you are completely ridiculous.! "

    What you say – and you have been saying this EVE before we ever engaged. So big deal!

    - – -

    And Sina has er . . . "reacted on" me.

    many instances . . . and he ended up being exposed. Every single time. So far.

    He copied this Christian nonsense – exposed that – he had no answer.

    Exposed successfully his lie – that he has a test for Muslims who claim they have read his book.

    Well that was a lie – because . . . he admitted he had no such test ready!

    Read his about page – the lie is still there.

    Then few other instances. For example – it turned out he did not know what Zaka meant .

    - – -

    "Your stupid little plan did not work at all. Everybody sees that you are an EVIL TAQIIYA MUSLIM."

    Who is this everybody?

    - – -

    "AND I SAID FROM THE BEGINNING THAT I WOULD BELITTLE , INSULT AND HUMILIATE YOU"

    Then why have you failed – so spectacularly?

    For example . . .

    Over this "Sala" business. As your little drama fades away. . .

    That is true humiliation . . . I did NOT have to do much other than expose your little lies.

    - – –

    Now compare that with mere claims . . . why would your swearing be classed as "humiliating"?

    In fact – in many cases they are compliments . . .

    For example – when clearly you run out of arguments . . . then you swear.

    All I have to do is point this out.

    - – -

    And isn't this humiliating for you?

  245. Do the Arabs produce many uaeful things? NO!!!
    Are there many Arab noble prize winners? NO!!!!
    Do the Arabs do something useful at all comparing with other nations? NO!!!!
    Prejudice and racist is that ALL disbelievers are dumb , blind and deaf, the worst beast etc. Some examples (there are many more):
    Surah 7:179 says: " And indeed We have created many jinns and men for hell; they have hearts in which there is no understanding; and the eyes they do not see with; and the ears they do not hear with; they are like cattle – in fact more astray; it is they who are the neglectful."
    Surah 8:22 says: " Indeed the worst beasts in the sight of Allah are those (people) who are deaf, dumb – who do not have any sense."
    THAT IS PREJUDICE AND RACIST !!!! EVIL MUSLIM !!!!

  246. Ha ha ha – but it isn't – Because I am here – reading all such pathetic arguments . . .

    Brainwashing is IF I did not do this . . .

    - – -

    What YOU do is brainwashing . . . reading one sided material.

    And you have EVEN admitted this – and saw nothing wrong with it.

    - – -

    Why don't you go read that article!

    - – -

    Practicing one's religion isn't termed as brainwashing per-se.

  247. "WHY CALL US DISBELIEVERS AND most vile of animals?"

    Hang – who is calling you that . . . lets look at it . . . this is why you odn't give any references and actual quotes.

    - – -

    "What is the point to humiliate dhimmies ???? "

    Who is doing that?

    - – -

    "Wht is the point to blow yourself up among some innocent people!!??? "

    Ask the people doing it – I condemn blowing up ALL innocent people.

    Hence as well as Muslims doing it – I condemn non-Muslims doing it.

    For example use of land mines and drones and what not.

    - – -

    "What is the point to stone people to death??? "

    None – other than if it for serious crimes. Even then there are other punishment – a quick injection.

    - – -

    "What is the point to AMPUTATE Hands? "

    Other than serious armed robbery and such serious crime.

    - – -

    "What is the point to go besirk when a dead fake prophet is being spoofed ??? "

    Don't you shoot your self in the foot with this argument- try thinking 1st!

    - – -

    "To let YOU MUSLIMS FEEL WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE HUMILITED ! I SAID THAT TIMES AND AGAIN. "

    But that is an EXCUSE! And nothign more.

    Why would you want Muslims to be humiliated?

    Hang on . . . you the above points . . . and then yourself expose your own hypocrisy!

    Oh how clever!

    - – -

    Why would swearing at people humiliate them?

    Ha ha ha . . . . it just SHOWS you . . . it exposes you my dear.

    - – -

    And then when you lie . . . about things like Sala – then it makes you look even worse!

    Isn't it HUMILIATING being exposed for your lies?

    For example you said . . . check in dictionary – when CLEARLY you hadn't done so yourself.

    You did NOT even know the name of SINGLE Arabic dictionary . . .

    . . . yet you read some lying source-less article – and you built whole drama out of it . . . .

    And now it has collapsed.

    And that is what is TRULY humiliating for you . . .

    and you did that to your own self!

    If you hadn't built such a drama . . .

    - – -

    Why is it – you think calling me names and what not – is humiliating for me?

    It isn't – in many circumstance it is actually a compliment.

    Especially when you have run out of certain argument. . . . then all you do is swear at me.

    All I have to do is point this out!

    - – -

    Oh dear . . . I feel even more pity for you!

  248. YOU ARE VERY STUPID OR YOU ARE A LIAR OR YOU ARE BOTH !!

  249. MUSLIM STANDARD ?????
    You muslims are a bunch of primitive people !!! You cannot invent or make a single thing. Every thing you know is STOLEN from the"KAFIRS".
    You have no great scholars at all. No Noble prize winners. NOTHING !
    Most muslim countries are poor and backward ! And it is all because of the JEWS, THE WEST, THE KAFIRS etc.etc. Only the oil-arabs have much money, but the do nothing USEFUL fir their "BROTHERS".
    All non-muslims despise you !!

  250. "You have EXPOSED NOTHING. ALL YOU SAID WAS THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW WHAT IT MEANS."

    Yet I did NOT just say this . . . i said a whole lot more. More easy lies?

    - – -

    " YOU ARE PATHETIC and an evil TAQIYYA MUSLIM of course !! "

    Of course – of course . . . then why it that YOU are the one caught lying? And not mean . . . .

    I mean – you come out with it – but calling some liar – without ANY proof whatsoever of lie – in itself is a lie!

    So why are you lying? If such things are beneath you?

    - – -

    "DO YOU REALLY THINK THE thinking READERS (not the brainwashed muslims of course) WILL BELIEVE YOU?? "

    This is site of your fellows . . . not MINE!

    Yet look how little support you get . . . one lone supporter – even HE has changed his tune.

    First you were "intelligent" and "knowledgeable" when that is challenged . . . he has dropped this.

    Even he says . . . you spread insults. Ha! And at first he denied this.

    - – -

    Hence you have resorted to ask . . . . "WILL BELIEVE YOU?? "

    Answer – yes!

    Because it is one "merit"

    Because if ANYONE ventured to support you then they will have to provide evidence for their claims . . . failing that then too will be implicated.

    HENCE – why YOU get so little a support.

    - – -

    Your arguments tend to be fallacious.

    And when you copy from others. . . then exposed as to the extent of you limit is that copying – and you don't know any more.

    That is why you spend so much EFFORT into swearing at me.

    - – -

    This is to cover up . . . that you ain't go no argument left. Have you NOT wondered how little support you get!

    - – -

  251. IF YOU CALL :"I DONT KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN '" an explanation!!! Then you are realy done.
    This muslim is completely crazy.
    But I think it is good that the readers see how these brainwashed pathetic muslims think.

  252. Such as . . . name them?
    —–
    Ibne-Kathir, Zamakshari and Ibne-Taiymiyah
    SEE for instance: http://www.irf.net/index.php?option=com_content&a
    THE CRAZY LETTERS ARE EVEN "A PROOF OF THE DIVINITY OF THE QURAN "!!!! HAHAHAHAHA !!!

  253. Wow! When it comes to it . . . you take the biscuit. Even "Julia" is more intelligent!

    Isn't this classic hate and brainwashing?

    Come on SIna! What else is it?

  254. You have EXPOSED NOTHING. ALL YOU SAID WAS THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.
    IS THAT AN …er…MEANINGFUL EXPLANATION??? YOU ARE PATHETIC and an evil TAQIYYA MUSLIM of course !!
    SO it was clearly you who could NOT ANSWER !!
    DO YOU REALLY THINK THE thinking READERS (not the brainwashed muslims of course) WILL BELIEVE YOU??

  255. "Because you are doing TAQIYYA ! YEP……AGAIN. "

    Ha ha ha – it was YOU who claimed look in dictionaries . . . . then you are saying this lying . . . when I post up extracts from dictionaries . . . how?

    - – -

    "The word means PRAY !!! You have an other word (Baraka/Barik) for BLESS in Arabic. "

    Why is it then DICTIONARY is saying 'Sala' also mean to bless?

    I mean – didn't you say look into dictionaries?

    The word Baraka – also mean to congratulate . . .

    The word Qadasa – can also mean "to bless"

    But what has that got do with Sala meaning bless. . . .

    Just because there are more words that mean . . . "bless" – how does that make Salah – not to mean bless?

    - – -

    "OUT OF SHAME EARLY MUSLIMS MADE IN "Sallalahu Alayi wa Sallam" INTO BLESS. "

    Where – is your evidence?

    Present it?

  256. HAHAHAHAHA !!! You are funny … :-)
    "Dear me . . . we pity such people. Not hate. What would be point of that?"
    You are right EVIL MUSLIM…. what is the point to kill apostates !! ?????
    WHY CALL US DISBELIEVERS AND most vile of animals?
    What is the point to humiliate dhimmies ????
    Wht is the point to blow yourself up among some innocent people!!???
    What is the point to AMPUTATE Hands?
    What is the point to stone people to death???
    What is the point to go besirk when a dead fake prophet is being spoofed ???
    WHAT IS THE POINT INDEED !!!
    MY point is very clear . To let YOU MUSLIMS FEEL WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE HUMILITED ! I SAID THAT TIMES AND AGAIN.

  257. Poor Julia – all drama – and lies gone! Exposed. Poor you . . .

  258. "Among any lies there is much truth!"

    Really? If there "truth" you claim is in so many lies . . . how do you know one from the other?

  259. Demsci – what has MEMRI got to do with this issue?

    You always do this . . . divert attention to other topic.

    Stick to this Sala – and watch the exposure of your great support Julia.

    Oh . . . . where has all that knowledge and intelligence gone all of a sudden?

    Dear me – how things have fizzled out?

    They have haven't they?

  260. As WE EXPLAINED BEFORE.
    BRAINWASHING IS WHAT YOU DO 5 times EACH DAY!!! Year in year out.
    Banging your head gainst the floor saying crazy things like:surah 2:1—
    "Alif,Lam,Meem…,.or 53:1.By the star when it goes down…
    Completely senseless !! You think about this now every time I'm sure when you "PRAY" !!! BWAAHOOOOOOhahahaha !!!

  261. "Thank you Amin, Qur'an is really "copy paste" from the exist religion pre Islam era, thanks for being taqiya muslim scholar. "

    Any evidence? Or just nonsense? Just claims and that is it? And how does my exposing suddenly mean – that Quran is copy and paste.

    This is question of merit. . . . let's hear it.

  262. "hahaha….thank you for lying Mr. Ali."

    What lying? It easy to claim such things . . . if you cannot explain his lie – with evidence.

    Then that means YOU are lying in calling him a liar.

  263. "I hold on to Zakaria Botros , because you muslims are liars "

    On what basis . . . it is OBVIOUS the lies YOU have told . . . . you claimed check dictionary. Ask Arab. Done both – you lied. You never even checked a dictionary yourself – but now – you claiming to hold onto Botros.

    An article that has NO SOURCES – if it had . . . it would be clear . . . he is LYING as well.

    How convenient.

    So why did you say . . . . look into a dictionary? Why did you lie?

    - – - –

    "You are a low-life ,paid by oil-sjeiks in petro-dollars. A kind of Judas, the traitor of Jesus Christ ! "

    So when argument of merit ran out – and you are exposed . . . . then insult me.

    Ha ha ha ha

  264. You haven't exposed NOTHING, you stupid MUSLIM-DUMMIE .
    You imagine you did. Ali Sina does not react on you because you are completely ridiculous.!
    Your stupid little plan did not work at all. Everybody sees that you are an EVIL TAQIIYA MUSLIM.
    AND I SAID FROM THE BEGINNING THAT I WOULD BELITTLE , INSULT AND HUMILIATE YOU conform surah 9:29 and the like. YOU DESERVE THAT AND YOU NEED IT.
    AND…..I LIKE IT !!!!! HAHAHAHAHA !

  265. "And one of those false gods was called…..ALLAH. HAhahahaha!!! "

    Which one . . . and why is it that Christians don't know this?

    Why is it they use the word Allah – if this word refers to an idol?

  266. Sayara means today in modern Arabic ????????
    car.
    ———-
    OF course MORON ZITOUNI !!!
    And if the muslim had won in Tours and Spain, we and you backward primitive muslim bastards would never had a car !!! HAHAHAHA !!!!

  267. BLAH…BLAH…BLAH!
    Whay are you babbling EVIL BACKWARD TAQIYYA MUSLIM.????
    WE LAUGH ABOUT YOU HERE…..HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THAT TO YOU , MORON !!
    You came here on this site with great arrogance…And NOW YOU ARE THE CLOWN !!

  268. "Ranting and raving……..
    Hahaha! YEP!! AminRAT !!!
    And it is working very well !!!
    You muslim can not embarrass us.
    Only people with very low self-esteem like your EVIL fake prophet and his followers are very quickly embarrassed and humiliated ! SHAME IS HORRIBLE for them!!
    This is good for you. YOU MUSLIMS SHOULD GET STARTING USED TO IT !!
    It will go on and on…. HAHAHA !!!
    You are a kind of DHIMMIES NOW !
    We shall call it DUMMIES….MUSLIM-DUMMIES, The most vile of animals. !!

  269. " I CLEARLY SAID TO YOU EVIL MUSLIMS THAT I AM HUMILIATING YOU . "

    But you WOULD say that . . . . that is kind of obvious . . . however:

    You are simply hidden behind the net. . . . oh big deal.

    You HAVE to make such claims . . . just cover up being EXPOSED!

    - – -

    "BUT YOU ARE SOOOOO ARROGANT THAT YOU CANNOT BELIEVE THAT !!! HAHAHAHA !!! "

    It is painfully obvious – all your drama and lies have been – clearly exposed.

    Hence EVEN your lone supporter – even he has dropped his claims that you are "intelligent" and "knowledgeable"

    And he OPENLY admits – you have nothing more than lies.

    Because he fully knows if he labels – you anything different – he will be challenged . . .

    then how will he answer.

    - – -

    Ha ha – isn't that ACTUAL humiliation?

    - – -

    Isn't humiliation – when you claimed to look in to dictionaries – for meaning of Sala – When I did pointed out . . . hey are against you . . . .

    And now you have no answer – and you are claiming "humiliation"?

    - – -

    But isn't it painfully obvious that . . . . you are reduced to claiming such nonsense – yet it has no weight behind such accusations whatsoever . . .

    - – -

    Wasn't it you who claimed Ask an Arab – for meaning of Salah – but hey . . . . How humiliating for you dear . . .

    that the "Arab" says otherwise?

    - – -

    See the difference . . . what an actual humiliation and empty claims?

    - – -

    I pity you.

  270. Ha ha – we looked at this . . . and it turned out – it was nothing more than your nonsense. And I am being kind to you here.

    - – - –

    "I FIGHT AGAINST THE HATE IN YOU EVIL MUSLIMS.
    YOU HATE ALL THE KAFIRS"

    I don't hate you – I pity you – and feel sad for you. It is OBVIOUS the hate is from you. Just look at your language.

    - – - –

    "YEP , evil TAQIYYA -muslim …THÁT IS ISLAM !!! HATE AND TERRORISM. Now come with your answers and more LIES ! "

    To presume "more lies" . . .from someone simply shows your prejudice. . . . and this is EXACTLY what I am talking about . . .

    Hate from you . . . you really should THINK before you post up. As your own words tend to betray you – my dear.

    Hence I in turn – am kind to you. And you are the one spewing hate.

    - – - –

    I know – I know it sad and lonely for you.

    Let me guess . . . .

    no father around you.

    You grew up with your mother – sad and lonely.

    You probably had lots of "uncles" – visiting you.

    growing up – with not much money . . .

    . . . were you bullied at school?

    - – - –

    Dear me . . . we pity such people. Not hate. What would be point of that?

  271. YOU ARE VERY ANGRY , HEY EVIL TAQIYYA MUSLIM AminRAT.
    I TOLD YOU , THÁT IS EXACTLY MY GOAL !!!"
    We do exactly what Allah said THAT YOU should do to us: WE USE EVERY STRATAGEM OF "WAR" ! Yes this is a war!
    Allah calls us his enemies , remember !!
    You say now: "If you did – then why are you not using this effective method?"
    Every fighter has his own way.
    And this kind of thing will grow !!!
    Be PREPARED EVIL MUSLIM !!

  272. HELLO , STUPID MUSLIMS !!!!
    WHERE ARE THE TATIONAL ANSWERS???????

  273. ZITOUNI AND AminRAT .
    Do you agree with your peaceful muslim brother "MITU".
    This is a clearly a result of brainwashing.
    I know your answer(s). There are stupid people everwhere, or we are not like this man, or …..bla blabla…blah.. ! Listen evil backward muslims …you are just as braiwashed as this moron. !!
    Pathetic…:"COME BANGLADESH I WILL KILL YOU""…Exactly as the hilarious puppet named "ACHMED THE DEAD TERRORIST". See this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWJaqtRs5Bk
    This is how NORMAL people see muslims!!! YOU ARE COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS !!
    SHAME ON YOU !!!

  274. I FIGHT AGAINST THE HATE IN YOU EVIL MUSLIMS.
    YOU HATE ALL THE KAFIRS (very derogartory name calling of you and Allah), because we are THE Enemies of your fake god Allah. SURAH 8: 60 says: "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power INCLUDING steeds of WAR to strike TERROR into (the hearts of) the ENEMIES OF ALLAH AND YOUR ENEMIES and others besides whom ye may not know but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you and ye shall not be treated unjustly."
    YEP , evil TAQIYYA -muslim …THÁT IS ISLAM !!! HATE AND TERRORISM. Now come with your answers and more LIES !

  275. " I do not care about you and Botros say to me you and him are bunch of ignorants LO"L
    ———
    OH,stupid muslim BUT you DO care ! Why else do you keep returning here. After I CLEARLY SAID TO YOU EVIL MUSLIMS THAT I AM HUMILIATING YOU .
    THAT IS WHAT I AM DOING.
    BUT YOU ARE SOOOOO ARROGANT THAT YOU CANNOT BELIEVE THAT !!! HAHAHAHA !!!

  276. Everybody here sees that you are an arrogant muslim (because of low self-esteem) . You are easily insulted.
    That is THE only thing I like about you. ;-)
    From the beginning I said I am PLAYING with you.
    I made you into the clown of this site.
    The harder you "fight", the more silly and pathetic you look. HAHAHAHAHAHA !!! And that is why I laugh so much !!!

  277. For ONCE You are right : AKBAR MEANS "GREATER".
    Greater then any god …..there were many false gods in Arabia.
    And one of those false gods was called…..ALLAH. HAhahahaha!!!
    This Idol was already in the kaaba. The father of Mohammed was named ABDALLAH ! (Slave of Allah).Indeed your IDOL ALLAH WAS OLDER !! What os fool you are….:-)
    CRETIN, blow yourself up…you are tooo stupid to babble on here !!

  278. To the evil taqiyyah muslim AminRAT, one of " the most vile of animals" …(a little JOKE) .
    -IT IS REALLY SIMPLE ,stupid muslim…I SAID ARAB , a real honest human being. BUT NOT A MUSLIM OF COURSE. ALL REAL MUSLIMS LIKE YOU AND ZITOUNI ARE LIARS. Why else should I call you TAQIYYA specialist.
    - Oh, but we are not DONE with your evil muslim lie about the dictionaries.
    he SPECTECULAR LIES IS AS ALWAYS WITH YOU…EVIL AND BACKWARD MUSLIMS…..OF COURSE . A LIE LIKE ISLAM CAN NOT BE THE TRUTH !!!
    But I have still much fun with you …hahahahaha!

  279. "How come Arabs muslims are always STUPID ? Because of INBRED I think !
    Tell me ,SLAVE, are father and mother cousins??? "

    Prejudice and Racist – and nothing more.

  280. " AminRAT, say these VERSES are CLEAR. "

    And what isn't clear about them?

    - – -

    "NO ONE CAN AN ANSWER IT . Many muslim "SCHOLARS" tried but no one can."

    Such as . . . name them?

    - – -

    I have answered this fully – then thing is you don't have counter-arguments to any objection.

    This is why you come out with nonsensical grandiose BS . . . and not any counter-arguments.

    And this is why you start to repeat.

    - – -

    "THE QUESTION BECOMES EVER MORE IMPORTANT. BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT YOUR EVIL FAKE GOD ALLAH TALKS NONSENSE AND IS A LIAR "

    How? Ouch! You really should think through what you are saying – before posting it up.

    - – -

    The things is – your reasoning is painfully fallacious . . . .hence why no one has EVER supported this line of reasoning.

    Try taking to Western Experts . . . easily found through net – and email. See the response you get.

  281. " If it really are just Arabic alphabet , then WHY are these crazy letters in your SO CALLED HOLY QURAN. "

    To indicate . . . speech – which is then codified.

    - – -

    Then thing is you built this BS up – and is easily exposed . . . hence you have NEVER had a counter-argument.

    Merely repeating in this instance . . . . simply highlights this.

    - – - –

    This is painfully obvious – I went through this whole nonsense with you.

    And you couldn't answer.

    Well you could . . . but it was all swears. Nothing meaningful.

  282. "HOW CAN YOUR EVIL SOCALLED QURAN SCHOLARS KNOW WHAT YOUR EVIL QURAN SAYS IF IT IS ACCORDING THIS FAMOUS SCHOLAR AND TOP EXPERT DR. PUIN UNREADABLE ! "

    Oh dear . . . EVEN you don't believe what this scholar says . . . .

    for one thing – you have not EVER read a single work of his.

    So you don't really know what he is saying.

    - – -

    And second – just look at the number of times . . . YOU have used quran as evidence against. . . . how can you do that . . . . if the book is unreadable?

    - – -

    Then let's look at your history of "experts" . . . . 1st its was me who had the title. Then you claimed the opposite – when it suited you.

    Then you brought forth . . . . Botros – then that fell on its head.

    Now you have got another name.

    – - – -

    Again – you have not read a single work of his – just fallacious one-sided article on the net.

    - – - –

    " IF YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT EVERY FITH SENTENCE OR SO SIMPLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE."

    This simply means . . . your "expert" wasn't up to the job and he couldn't read Arabic.

    Else – Quran.com – every bit is translated.

  283. "I don't care WHAT YOU CALL A SCHOLAR OF QURAN.
    THESE ARE ALL TAQIYYA SPECIALISTS. (Q. 3:28) , they talk to muslims In other way then to (the still much stronger) "

    Even more evidence that you are brainwashed. You provide all such evidence YOURSELF.

    Look it up –
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_control

    - – -

    Something is examined from both sides of the argument – then you need the reasons why you reject one and not the other.

    You by your own admittance do not do that.

    - – -

    What? By swears . . . that you have HATE in you heart . . . that is what is shows – effectively.

  284. "And plenty of evidence is given on FFI, Jihad Watch and other anti-Islam-websites of this. "

    No there isn't – as I have exposed this many times. Even recently – another contradiction of Sina's.

    Has he replied? Nope.

    He claimed 2 Sufis to be the greatest Scholars of Islam as considered by Muslims. In his recent rant – he claimed the opposite that Sufis are condemned by Muslims as heretics.

    - – - –

  285. "So you have to learn to speak your NEW ARABIC according to the dictionaries ! HAHHAHA
    What a SHAME for you, backward Arab muslim !!!!!"

    If it isn't because of dictionaries . . . .

    Then how do you know what Sala means?

    How? [You have repeated trouble in answering this]

    - – -

    Wasn't it you who – said.

    Go check dictionaries

    And . . . Go ask and Arabic speaker.

    - – -

    So why are you denying both. . . . all of a sudden?

    This was YOUR standard that you set.

  286. "THAT YOUR QURAN IS A BOOK WRITTEN BY A RETARDED AND EVIL FAKE PROPHET"

    How?

    Lets see . . . you had the idiotic Ali Lam – thing . . . it became painfully obvious – how nonsensical that was . . .

    Then you attempted to justify you insulting . . . . but when we looked at each verse . . . it became OBVIOUS – that you were lying . .

    Then this new drama of "Sala" . . . just because you had read an alleged article of Botros.

    Yet you yourself had no skills . . . . and the lies you told. Go check in dictionaries . . .

    I did – they said opposite to you.

    Then you – said – go ask any Arab – then Zitouni came along . . . again you were exposed.

    So what are you talking about?

    - – -

  287. "And being a Muslim is not something to be proud of, because it is considered not something Muslims choose, because they are not even allowed to get out of Islam. So that means that birth (conversion too, but this is more rare) is the decisive factor in being Muslim, not choice. So it is no achievement to be Muslim in that sense. "

    BS – if you are going to talk about conversion in quantifiable sense . . . then either present evidence – or this is unproven nonsense.

    - – -

    "You see, you moderate Muslim, only see the different interpretation of Mohammed and Quran-Hadiths-Sira, presented by counter-jihadists. But you turn a blind eye to what your fellow-Muslims presented and present as interpretation and practice of Quran-Hadith-Sira. "

    Again meaningless rubbish . . . which different interpretation are you presenting? All claims – no evidence. Whenever you are pressed for evidence – you either ignore – or change the topic.

    - – -

    " But the real problem is that among Muslims there are so many different interpretations of Quran-Hadiths-Sira and counterjihadists do see it, highlight it and present it, ever more. "

    That is NONSENSICAL . . . why? Because there is NO SUCH THING AS . . . . "counter-jihadist"

    You build these terms from yourself – and hide behind them.

    - – -

    ""Moderate" "New" Muslims can in the long run appease many counterjihadists, by putting up conditions of membership of Islam after negotiating with counterjihadists. "

    Why should Muslim ever bother to appease those . . . . that will swear at Muslims?

    Such as yourself . . . who has OPENLY admitted – that truth doesn't matter to you . . . just the hate of Islam does.

  288. "You see, I know she hurts feelings very much, but only on Internet. were she in my vicinity and do the same on the street and the workplace or the home; I would be against it. But here you can zap away. And on the Internet Muslims do the same in the other direction, OK? Moreover it is about the part of you that defends Islam, not the rest. "

    Which shows you hypocrisy . . . and we had it out . . . you could not defend it.

    Hence you never ventured to speak about it.

    - – -

    "You see, Zitouni, I truly believe in the effectiveness of insults, like Julia is using them. "

    If you did – then why are you not using this effective method?

    - – -

    "Polite speech can be ignored and is ignored often and then not effective. Where insults arouse people to become active, think, discuss, compare. "

    Yet EXACT opposite is true.

    Hence – no intelligent person – uses this method.

    Hence why YOU don't do it yourself.

    Hence your hypocrisy becomes clear.

    As is the case with Sina.

    Who threatened to ban a Muslim – for highlighting Julia's swearing.

    Why do you think that is?

    - – - –

    "Now you consider people like Julia the worst and you try to reason with people like me. THAT people like Julia did for people like me! And people like her and me are really ONE. "

    There is no justification for troll behavior. You yourself claim to be same as her.

    Ouch!
    - – -

    "effectiveness of insults, like Julia is using them."

    But there is no one here being affected by them . . . is there?

    All insults highlight is lack of intelligence.

    And that is painfully obvious.

    - – -

    For example in response to arguments . . . .

    to cover up – when her shortages are exposed . . . .

    s/he starts to insult . . . . and YOU think that is effective.

    Why?

    Well – the thing is you portray yourself as intelligent. But when you get defeated . . . and your mistakes and errors are highlighted. . . . then you feel small.

    Now rather than . . . .thinking about things . .. you champion a person like Julia.

    - – -

    it isn't the fact s/he is ay more intelligent. . . .

    . . . . it is just that . . . . you take the cowardly route out.

    When arguments run out – all the lies are well and truly expose.

    Then you have at least – sworn.

    - – -

    But this is far far far worse.

    Why?

    Because it HIGHLIGHTS the fact that you have just had your ass whupped.

    - – - –

    You claim:

    "You would vehemently oppose all we would present, to the smalles detail. Or you would endless ignore us. "

    But this happened to you ANYWAY . . .

    Even before you started supporting this troll.

    And you were NOT ignored – I answered ALL your objections.

    - – -

    I still do!

  289. Ranting and raving . . . . reverting to the troll type.

    - – -

    I mean you concocted this "Salah" drama – and told many lies in the process.

    Oh . . . how embarrassing for you.

  290. "I DON'T LIE."

    Yes you do – and quite often . . . and openly. Hence saying you don't lie is a lie in itself.

    - – -

    Here is an example of your lie:

    "Aminriadh is suggesting that you are talking nonsense. "

    - – -

    As it is painfully apparent – you have got nothing left to say . . . .

    you started on this Sala nonsense – now your steam has ran out.

    As I have said – you have successfully brainwashed your own lonely self.

    - – -

    "EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT BY NOW about TAQIYYA AND KITMAN. It in even in you evil Quran, Surah 3:28 says;
    "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: EXCEPT BY WAY OF PRECAUTION, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah. "

    Here is you intelligence level . . . you claim the verse is about lying. Read it back to yourself.

    - – -

    Ouch! I didn't have you down as very intelligent – but this bad!?

    Surely not.

  291. OK, Thanks, great that Islam can be studied by non-Muslims.

    I am from Holland. In Holland we have professor Hans Jansen, an official (non-Muslim) Islamologist. There are several more, one is Maurits Berger.

    These kind of people are not considered scholar of Islam by Muslim standard .

  292. "FATHER Zakaria Botros gave the following reference"

    Where? Which article? How about a link?

    - – - –

    "If Sala means to “bless,” why then does the recitation go on to use the proper Arabic word for “bless” (Baraka/Barik) in the same exact context? If both mean “bless,” why the redundancy? "

    Is this question for real? Is this meant to be an intelligent objection?

    English language is full of synonymous words. . . why?

    The word "example" in Arabic has few different words – such as Dharab – Mathalan – Nahwa . . . .

    In different cases different words are used.

    Why?

    - – -

    Surely you don't want an explanation – why alternative words with same meanings are used in writing?

    - – -

    "Zakaria Botros gave the following reference"

    This isn't a reference which gives meaning of the word "Sala".

  293. you ali sina son of bitch come bangladesh i will kill you.

  294. I SEE I'M touching here a very painful spot !
    IT IS YOUR OWN very "learned"and "educated"MUSLIM BROTHER,
    Who said "Sala"means PRAY. SORRY. IT IS NOT MY FAULT THAT YOU MUSLIMS ARE CONFUSED ABOUT YOUR OWN ISLAM CRAP !!! Hahahaha . I'm just playing with you BOTH , and make you look like the CLOWNS YOU ARE !! You are contradicting each other.
    Typical DUALISTIC MUSLIMS TALKING!!! JUST like your whole EVILQuran is DUALISTIC.MAKKAN-QURAN contra MEDINAN-QRN , and the muslim "SOLUTION " is : ABROGATION of the earlyer surahs. AIN'T THAT BEATUFIL ??? hahahaha This works only by brainwashed ,backward people . in short : MUSLIMS !

    again calling lay man very learned man . You have to ask experts if you want fact of anything and not some amateurs. We got Muslims from Pakistan , Inadia and Iran who knows few things about Arabic these kind of people should not be consulted to learn fact about Arabic language . They make mistakes most of translation that I see are made by them for example they translate the phrase Allah akbar as Allah is great which is wrong the correct is Allah is greater anybody who knows English will tell you the word great and greater are two completly different word .Allah great would have quality meaning English speaking person is going to understand Allah great as you says the man is great and this is not what it means in Arabic . The word greater is comparative meaning such as 7 is greater than 5 .In Arabic would say 7 is Akbar than 5 . The word great in Arabic is ·adeem while the word greater is Akbar and Akbar in Arabic can be translated in English as bigger , greater , older
    So Allah Akbar is Allah is greater meaning Allah is greater that any God in everything you can imagine power , knowledge , size and so on . Prophet used it because there were many false gods in Arabia so he wanted to say that Allah the God he worship is greater than all gods that exist in the planet

  295. "There you go,Zitouni. Aminriadh is suggesting that you are talking nonsense. IS HE RIGHT ? "

    Another lie . . . . dear me . . . . you have started doing it openly . . .

    See – this is YOUR position and those that are your "lot". That you lie unashamedly.

    I have never said anything of the sort.

    - – -

    "WHAT IS YOUR ANWER TO Aminriadh and me, ZITOUNI. ? "

    There is no you and me . . . . I know you want it . . . but sorry dearie!

  296. "But what I (JULIA) can say, you know MORE
    about Arabic then AMINRIADH the indian TAQIYYA MUSLIM. "

    Really? On what basis? Not even Zitouni will say that . . . as it is rather obvious . . . not another little untruth? Is it now dear?

  297. "Because as Arabspeaker you KNOW that SALA means PRAY."

    So if Zitouni – really is an Arab speaker – and s/he denies what you claim – WITHOUT any proof whatsoever. . . .

    Then who the hell are you?

    - – -

    it was one of your earlier claims go ask any Arab speaker. Well here is one . . . . and they are saying opposite to you. . .

    Just like your "claim" that check dictionaries . . . and that was SPECTACULAR lie from you . . . all dictionaries say opposite to you.

  298. NOBODY BELIEVES YOU ,BECAUSE YOU ARE A TAQIYYA MUSLIM ZITOUNI. ONCE A LIAR….ALWAYS A LIAR !!IT IS IN THE QURAN…YOU MUST TELL LIES !
    And you have proved nothing at all.
    YOU THINK YOU DID! YOU ARE DILUSIONAL JUST AS YOUR CRAZY AND EVIL FAKE PROPHET! NOW….YOU HAVE TO KILL ME TOO.
    PEACEFUL PRIMITIVE MUSLIM. You muslims will soon have to kill 4/5 of humanity. !!!! HAHAHAHA !!!

    You could not prove that I lied while I did that about Botros LOL

  299. ARE YOU DRUNK Zitouni?
    Read your stupid sentence (quetion?) again: "Which koranic expert said that Sala means to bless because Botros claimed that all Muslims think that Sala means to bless".
    Obviously Botros (and many others) claimed that muslims (arabspeaking) KNOW that SALW means PRAY. THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT, REMEMBER? MR.ALZHEIMER !!

    I need name of the scholar and not Botros claimed this or that . I can say the same thing that many christains believe that Jesus was not God would Botros acept that ????

  300. To the backward muslim Zitouni:
    "Koran has its expert just like Math has its expert . I am not qualified to perform surgery only when I shows my medical lincense which indicats that I am trained surgeon".———
    You are comparing apples with pears. STUPID MUSLIM. VERY ILLOGICAL !!
    A religion of a person is something completely individual.
    So called scholars can not say what someone has to believe . THIS IS PURE NONSENSE. TYPICAL FOR MUSLIMSLAVES TO FOLLOW AUTHORITIES. WE ARE FREE. WE DECIDE OURSELVES WHAT TO THINK. THESE EVIL CLERICS MAKE YOU MUSLIMS DO THE MOST VILE CRIMES in name of a god. ALLAHU SNACKBAR ….you know !!! HAHAHAHA !

    You too dumb to understand facts and anaology . Nobody is forcing you to acept Islam you are free to believe anything you want. What I am saying is in order to interpret Koran you have to be trained scholar to do that just if you want to perform surgery

  301. HOW CAN YOUR EVIL SOCALLED QURAN SCHOLARS KNOW WHAT YOUR EVIL QURAN SAYS IF IT IS ACCORDING THIS FAMOUS SCHOLAR AND TOP EXPERT DR. PUIN UNREADABLE !
    You don't want to see it, but this scholar said About the oldest arabic quran: " IF YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT EVERY FITH SENTENCE OR SO SIMPLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE."
    Do you understand this simple fact, PRIMITIVE MUSLIM?
    Who can understand a book , if EVERY FITH SENTENCE OR SO is UNREADABLE ! Man you are even dumber then a donkey !!

    Who cares what non Koranic scholar says about Koran

  302. I don't care WHAT YOU CALL A SCHOLAR OF QURAN.
    THESE ARE ALL TAQIYYA SPECIALISTS. (Q. 3:28) , they talk to

    I do not care about you and Botros say to me you and him are bunch of ignorants LOL

  303. YOU DID NOT KNOW THAT SALA IN THE RECENT DICTIONARIES GIVES "BLESS" as its meaning.
    Because as Arabspeaker you KNOW that SALA means PRAY. So you have to learn to speak your NEW ARABIC according to the dictionaries ! HAHHAHA
    What a SHAME for you, backward Arab muslim !!!!!

    Arabic in Koran is much older than this dictionary that you are talking about . I have to define the words in koran based in what they meant back then and not what they mean today . The word Sayara which appear in koran chapter of Joseph meant back then travelers or caravan so what the word Sayara means today in modern Arabic ???????? it means car . It would be stupid to say wait min koran is wrong is talking about car and there were car in time of Joseph . The answer is you have to understand the word based in what it meant in that era and not what it means today . They have that in English too not just in Arabic .

  304. But then the Muslims, the easterners, should not have invaded Spain, France and the Balkans, don't you think?

    All those who started Islamic Invasion in 7 century were ARABS. Those Arabs before Islam they never invaded any country . As for Spain it was invaded by Berbers from N Africa because they were invaded and subjicated by rulers of Spain before Islam for France they had to attack it because defeated Spanish and their allies regrouped and tried to fight Muslim in Spain , Balkans state were part of Byzantine empire who never stoped from attacking Muslims

  305. Those guys conterjihadist are hired by the west to preach surrender in Islam . The west want to stay in our land suck our natural resources peacefully without being disturbed . They know that we have self defence and fighting for freedom to kick out invaders out of our land which we call Jihad and in the west they call it freedom fighting so they got people like Ali Sina and his friends to demonise Jihad while the hypocrite westerners used Jihad to fight nazis . What Muslim are saying if you want peace WITH mUSLIMS THEN STAY IN YOUR BACKWARD . You cannot come to my house to disturb me attack me to rob me and when I react to that I am considerd barbaric. Did you ask yourself question why Chinese , Brazilian , S Koorean , Japenese and many more have no problem with us why just white racist ?????? . The answer to that question is very easy they were in M east during Byzantinians so they did not want to leave it they want to have all natural resources for themelves while we live in poverity and misery . does this sound fair to you ?

  306. Julia:

    ==> Bible: To "Kill the whole town if one person worship other God." . DEUT 13:13-19.

    ==> AS PER CHRISTIANITY & JUDAISM
    The punishment for blasphemy in most of the major religions is death. It is stated in the Old Testament of the Bible, which is the authority for both the Jews and the Christians:
    And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: [Book of Leviticus 24:16].

    What is this?

  307. Have you got a link that I can watch this.

    it will be very dificult for me to find the exact video where he said that because I have watched 100s of his videos and I remembered when he said that he does not interpret koran on his own , but read what others scholar say. No koranic scholar does that

  308. MORE EXAMPLES from http://inthenameofallah.org/God's%20Blessing
    33: 43 He [Allah] it is Who sends blessings on you [yousalli 'alaykum] as do His angels that He may bring you out from the depths of Darkness into Light: and He is Full of Mercy to the Believers.
    33: 56 Allah and His angels send blessings [yousalloona] on the Prophet: O ye that believe! send ye blessings on him [salloo alaiyhi] and salute [sallimoo] him with all respect.
    *** Once more are the words [yousalloona] and [salloo alaiyhi] are mistranslated to mean otherwise ***
    41: 10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it and bestowed blessings [baraka] on the earth and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion in four Days in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek (sustenance).

  309. The Arabic translations are taken from the very Islamic site http://islam.thetruecall.com/modules.php?name=Qur

  310. EXTRA: TAKEN FROM THE SAME SITE ( http://inthenameofallah.org/God's%20Blessing… ,
    Quran7: 96 says: If the people of the towns had but believed and feared Allah We should indeed have opened out to them (all kinds of) blessings [barakatin] from heaven and earth; but they rejected (the truth) and We brought them to book for their misdeeds.
    Arabic transliteration: Walaw anna ahla alqura amanoo waittaqaw lafatahna AAalayhim barakatin mina alssamai waalardi walakin kaththaboo faakhathnahum bima kanoo yaksiboona
    DO YOU SEE : "BARAKATIN"= BLESSINGS ?? NO "SALAWATUN" = PRAYERS !!!

  311. EXTRA: from the ame site ( http://inthenameofallah.org/God's%20Blessing… ) Quran 2: 157 says: "They are those on whom (descend) BLESSINGS [salawatun] from Allah and Mercy and they are the ones that receive guidance."
    *** The word [salawatun] – which is actually PRAYERS – is deliberately mistranslated to mean otherwise *** WITH BLESSINGS.
    Arabic: أُولَئِكَ عَلَيْهِمْ صَلَوَاتٌ مِّن رَّبِّهِمْ وَرَحْمَةٌ وَأُولَئِكَ هُمُ الْمُهْتَدُونَ
    Transliteration: Olaika AAalayhim salawatun min rabbihim warahmatun waolaika humu almuhtadoona

  312. 2. In the more POLITICALLY CORRECT newer versions of Arabic dictionaries, they have – ever so slightly but- DELIBERATELY changed the meaning of the word PRAY to:
    c) Pray = Bless, in addition to the other meanings.
    This deliberate SLIGHT of HAND is used to cover up the very embarrassing
    Salla'l Allahu Alyihi wa Sallam
    which when translated CORRECTLY would read:
    Allah's PRAYERS and SALUTATIONS be upon him
    Thus requiring Allah – if he is the Almighty – to PRAY upon and SALUTE His own creation, Muhammad.
    THERE YOU GO AMINRAT AND ZIYOUNI !!!!! HAHAHAHA

  313. To the EVIL CLOWNS AminRAT and Zitouni.
    I have found this wonderful and very honest ANTI-ISLAM SITE: http://inthenameofallah.org/God's%20Blessing
    Muslims will hate it of course, but for KAFIRS (non-muslims) is it A MUST READ.
    About PBUH after the name MOHAMMED (Arabic: صلى الله عليه وسلم‎ ṣall Allāhu ʿalay-hi wa-sallam) it says in short:
    It is usually translated as "God's blessing and peace be upon him"
    The above translation is completely INACCURATE and MISLEADING because the words used in the Arabic of the Quran are not translated faithfully in the English language as explained in the following:
    1. In the earlier published Arabic dictionaries, the following words were correectly translated as in these TRANSLITERATIONS:
    a) Bless = Ba-raka, As'ada, Sabbahha, Mannahha, An'ama 'ala, Ttawwaba, Yahhfuth, Yahhmi
    b) Blessing = Barakat, Ni'mat, Sha'adat
    c) Pray = Salla, Ibtahala, Tawassala, Tarajja, Raja^a = Supplicate
    d) Shower = Yanshur
    To be continued.

  314. YOU SMELL YOUR EVIL MUSLIM ANUS PRIMITIVE BACKWARD MUSLIM ALIEN, BECAUSE YOU FORGOT TO WIPE YOUR BUTT WITH 3 STONES AS YOUR EVIL FAKE PROPHET (the insane camel) ordered you to.
    What a retard this muslim!!! HAHAHA !!!

  315. STILL NO ANSWER OF THE PRIMITIVE,BACKWARD MUSLIMAH MARIA-THING.!!!!

  316. YOU ARE BEING FOOLED MARIA-THING.
    You said: "The cost of apostasy is death as per Christianity….as well :
    THAT IS A VERY,VERY BIG LIE !!!
    EVERYBODY CAN FREELY LEAVE CHRISTIANITY.
    THERE IS NO LAW WHATOEVER THAT SAYS CHRISTIAN APOSTATES SHOULD BE KILLED !
    A VERY EVIL LIE !!!!!!!! YOU DESERVE HELL FOR THIS LIE !!!!!!

  317. To the backward muslim Zitouni:
    "Koran has its expert just like Math has its expert . I am not qualified to perform surgery only when I shows my medical lincense which indicats that I am trained surgeon".———
    You are comparing apples with pears. STUPID MUSLIM. VERY ILLOGICAL !!
    A religion of a person is something completely individual.
    So called scholars can not say what someone has to believe . THIS IS PURE NONSENSE. TYPICAL FOR MUSLIMSLAVES TO FOLLOW AUTHORITIES. WE ARE FREE. WE DECIDE OURSELVES WHAT TO THINK. THESE EVIL CLERICS MAKE YOU MUSLIMS DO THE MOST VILE CRIMES in name of a god. ALLAHU SNACKBAR ….you know !!! HAHAHAHA !

  318. HOW CAN YOUR EVIL SOCALLED QURAN SCHOLARS KNOW WHAT YOUR EVIL QURAN SAYS IF IT IS ACCORDING THIS FAMOUS SCHOLAR AND TOP EXPERT DR. PUIN UNREADABLE !
    You don't want to see it, but this scholar said About the oldest arabic quran: " IF YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT EVERY FITH SENTENCE OR SO SIMPLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE."
    Do you understand this simple fact, PRIMITIVE MUSLIM?
    Who can understand a book , if EVERY FITH SENTENCE OR SO is UNREADABLE ! Man you are even dumber then a donkey !!

  319. YOU DID NOT KNOW THAT SALA IN THE RECENT DICTIONARIES GIVES "BLESS" as its meaning.
    Because as Arabspeaker you KNOW that SALA means PRAY. So you have to learn to speak your NEW ARABIC according to the dictionaries ! HAHHAHA
    What a SHAME for you, backward Arab muslim !!!!!

  320. YOU ARE INDEED AN EVIL LIAR ZITOUNI.
    Of course is slavery and sex slavery still in the SHARIAH.
    Mohammed your Insan al Kamil ( the perfect role model) himself had many slaves and even sex slaves , like Maria the Kopt . You know that very well. AND YOU MUST STILL FOLLOW YOUR EVIL FKE PROPHET ACCORDING TO YOUR EVIL QURAN !!!
    SO SHUT UP, BACKWARD SLAVE OF ALLAH AND MOHAMMED !!!

  321. WHAT ABOUT THE ABROGATING EVIL MUSLIM ZITOUNI ???

  322. OF COURSE WE ARE HATE-MONGERING AGAINST ISLAM , STUPID BACKWARD INBRED TAQIYYA MUSLIM !
    ISLAM IS THE MOST EVIL AND HATEFUL CULT EVER INVENTED !!!
    THAT'S WHY WE HATE IT !!!!
    WHEN DOES THIS SIMPLE FACT REACH YOUR ONE BRAINWASHED BRAIN CEL???

  323. OK, Thanks, great that Islam can be studied by non-Muslims.

    I am from Holland. In Holland we have professor Hans Jansen, an official (non-Muslim) Islamologist. There are several more, one is Maurits Berger.

    Jansen wrote several books, which I read. He explained the history of Islam and much of the contents of the Quran-Hadiths-Sira. When controversies arise, in the news, about supposed Islamic practices and Muslims, often these Islamologists are interviewed on TV or in Newspapers about the matter.

    Look, it is not the problem that you want to adhere to the highest Islamic experts and that you want to correct the misunderstandings of counterjihadists. You may put up some kind of standards for counterjihadists.

    But be just as critical to those Muslims who disagree with your authoritative scholars and refuse to adhere to their rulings, and hold them up to the same standards and try to do this by putting conditions upon membership of whatever name you give your subset of Islam.

    It is for instance very important that a subset of Muslims is against deathpenalty for apostasy in Islam. and that it is a condition of membership of this subset to be against deathpenalty for apostasy in Islam.

    Look, either a knowledgeable person like you speaks a completely UNIQUE interpretation of Islam''s most important guiding texts or (s)he speaks for literally ALL Muslims in the world. Both are very improbable.

    Or somewhere in between! Which is the case of course.

    And it is important to determine approximately how many Muslims agree with you and how many differ in interpretation. On the meanings of a whole range of Islamic holy texts/ verses and on a whole range of societal issues.

    For instance, suppose you say that Islam is compatible with full democratic system, but Anjem Choudary holds that "Divine shariah" laws oppose democracy and that it works better than "'manmade" democratic laws, which is what he says.

    In this case you are then clearly on our side and he is against us. But how do you make yourself more credible? Maybe by some Muslims somehow creating a subset of Islam and put up a condition of membership that members of your organisation must endorse democracy over shariah when the two contradict. And I believe Zuhdi Jasser and Irshad Manji have done just that to a certain extent.

    Or you can openly side with Choudary, then at least there would be clarity about your position on this very important societal issue.

  324. NOBODY BELIEVES YOU ,BECAUSE YOU ARE A TAQIYYA MUSLIM ZITOUNI. ONCE A LIAR….ALWAYS A LIAR !!IT IS IN THE QURAN…YOU MUST TELL LIES !
    And you have proved nothing at all.
    YOU THINK YOU DID! YOU ARE DILUSIONAL JUST AS YOUR CRAZY AND EVIL FAKE PROPHET! NOW….YOU HAVE TO KILL ME TOO.
    PEACEFUL PRIMITIVE MUSLIM. You muslims will soon have to kill 4/5 of humanity. !!!! HAHAHAHA !!!

  325. ARE YOU DRUNK Zitouni?
    Read your stupid sentence (quetion?) again: "Which koranic expert said that Sala means to bless because Botros claimed that all Muslims think that Sala means to bless".
    Obviously Botros (and many others) claimed that muslims (arabspeaking) KNOW that SALW means PRAY. THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT, REMEMBER? MR.ALZHEIMER !!

  326. Just for info …
    The exact writing of your pseudo should be :
    "Honi soit qui mal y pense"
    Meaning :" shame on who thinks evil of it"

  327. AGAIN, THANK YOU DEMSCI.
    Keep up the good work also !
    ISLAM IS PURE EVIL .
    IT MUST BE DESTROYED…..AND IT WILL SURELY BE DESTROYED!!!
    Now, this age of INFORMATION, is the right time to do it.
    As long as islam exists ,THERE WILL BE NO PEACE.
    Just as with NAZISM ! But ISLAM IS MUCH MORE EVIL !!!

  328. I don't care WHAT YOU CALL A SCHOLAR OF QURAN.
    THESE ARE ALL TAQIYYA SPECIALISTS. (Q. 3:28) , they talk to muslims In other way then to (the still much stronger)
    "disbelievers". You are a BACKWARD AND BRAINWASHED GULLIBLE MUSLIM. An easy victim for these MOST EVIL BASTARDS !!
    What is so good about knowing a (stupid) book by heart ! NOTHING !!
    TAFSIR , AHADITH etc….ALL HEARSAY !!! You can not deny that, MORON !!

  329. I urge the readers to read this comment of this EVIL MUSLIM LIAR Zitouni again . THINK ABOUT IT,READERS, And then do some googling on you tube !
    There are many , many EVIL muslim clerics who defend slavery TO DAY !!! https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=slav
    LOOK HERE WHAT AN VERY EVIL MUSLIMAH (POLITICAL ACTIVIST) LATELY SAID :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ek3xKKnKvQ

  330. Hello, most vile of animals, TAQIYYA muslim AminRAT.( this is not an insult, even your fake god Allah uses it :-) )
    You are playing ,in a sneaky (muslim) way , the victim. A very OLD MUSLIM trick.
    I DON'T LIE. Muslims are the LIARS !
    EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT BY NOW about TAQIYYA AND KITMAN. It in even in you evil Quran, Surah 3:28 says;
    "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: EXCEPT BY WAY OF PRECAUTION, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.

  331. DEAR DEMSCI.
    THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR AGREEING WITH WHAT I AM DOING. I REALLY THINK IT IS NECESSARY.
    AND I AM HONOURED BY YOUR SAYING : "AND PEOPLE LIKE HER AND ME ARE REALLY ONE "!!!
    WONDERFUL WORDS INDEED !
    It means a great deal to me. We must unite our forces!!!

  332. I SEE I'M touching here a very painful spot !
    IT IS YOUR OWN very "learned"and "educated"MUSLIM BROTHER,
    Who said "Sala"means PRAY. SORRY. IT IS NOT MY FAULT THAT YOU MUSLIMS ARE CONFUSED ABOUT YOUR OWN ISLAM CRAP !!! Hahahaha . I'm just playing with you BOTH , and make you look like the CLOWNS YOU ARE !! You are contradicting each other.
    Typical DUALISTIC MUSLIMS TALKING!!! JUST like your whole EVILQuran is DUALISTIC.MAKKAN-QURAN contra MEDINAN-QRN , and the muslim "SOLUTION " is : ABROGATION of the earlyer surahs. AIN'T THAT BEATUFIL ??? hahahaha This works only by brainwashed ,backward people . in short : MUSLIMS ! :-)

  333. Zitouni, although my approach is much different from Julia, I will defend her again.

    You see, I know she hurts feelings very much, but only on Internet. were she in my vicinity and do the same on the street and the workplace or the home; I would be against it. But here you can zap away. And on the Internet Muslims do the same in the other direction, OK? Moreover it is about the part of you that defends Islam, not the rest.

    You see, Zitouni, I truly believe in the effectiveness of insults, like Julia is using them. I compare insults not with polite speech, but with violent reaction to problems, caused by evil and stupid persons. Polite speech can be ignored and is ignored often and then not effective. Where insults arouse people to become active, think, discuss, compare.

    You see, Zitouni, if there were NO PEOPLE LIKE JULIA around, then it would be people like me who took the brunt of your opposition, you would consider people like me the worst. You would vehemently oppose all we would present, to the smalles detail. Or you would endless ignore us.

    Now you consider people like Julia the worst and you try to reason with people like me. THAT people like Julia did for people like me! And people like her and me are really ONE.

  334. "We cannot delete verses from Koran to be make feel happy".
    "Many verses in koran are just piece of history used by Muslims to learn lessons from them and are no longer applicable today"

    OK, holy texts are immutable but on vexed questions interpretations among Muslims vary and relatively benevolent interpretations are possible, or considered the right ones.

    But still OTHER interpretations remain among many Muslims. And being a Muslim is not something to be proud of, because it is considered not something Muslims choose, because they are not even allowed to get out of Islam. So that means that birth (conversion too, but this is more rare) is the decisive factor in being Muslim, not choice. So it is no achievement to be Muslim in that sense.

    one of the tenets of New Islam should be: Specific named verses in the Quran, like 9;29, were only meant for BACK THEN and no longer for TODAY. And any Muslim that declares otherwise and act contradictory to that is no'NEW MUSLIM" and he/ she will NOT be defended by New Muslims against counterjihadists.

    You see, you moderate Muslim, only see the different interpretation of Mohammed and Quran-Hadiths-Sira, presented by counter-jihadists. But you turn a blind eye to what your fellow-Muslims presented and present as interpretation and practice of Quran-Hadith-Sira.

    Presumably because counterjihadists present MOhammed and Islam as very negative and all Muslims present them as positive. But the real problem is that among Muslims there are so many different interpretations of Quran-Hadiths-Sira and counterjihadists do see it, highlight it and present it, ever more.

    "Moderate" "New" Muslims can in the long run appease many counterjihadists, by putting up conditions of membership of Islam after negotiating with counterjihadists.

    But how can counterjihadists ever be reconciled with Islam-supremacists who really interpret Islam as meant to subdue and tax and treat disbelievers unfairly???

  335. excuse me I mean"hairy balls. Why do you keep diverting the question. Does it make you feel guilty knowing how Unchristian you are?

  336. I'm curious. Would Jesus use such dirty euphemisms like "dirty balls?" Answer the question.

  337. Zitouni, I read and enjoyed your explanation of history. Now I can see more clearly the perspective of Muslims. I disagree, but I can accept such a perspective, it is not yet so crucial for me to change history-perspectives.

    I think that humans started to form cities, perhaps 3400 BC, in Uruk, Egypt became one state about 3100 BC, In Sumer many city-states started in 3rd millennium BC. And it was Sumerian kings, then Sargon of Akkad who perhaps, in about 2300 BC, started a big, agressive, conquering nation-state. And ever since, some peoples, under agressive kings, tried to conquer and subdue other peoples.

    So it was both with the Europeans AND with the Arabs, but also with the Persians, Mongols, even the Germans under Hitler.
    When you blame one group (like you do the Romans, Europeans), please blame them all. Or likewise, when you exonerate one group (like you do Mohammed and the Muslims) please exonerate them all.

    Funny, in # 490 + 480 the Persians, easterners in your vision? tried to conquer the Greeks, westerners, Europeans in your vision? Then Allexander (356-323 BC) brought huge success to the Westerners. Do you resent Alexander for that? Because much of what the Romans conquered was from Hellenistic western kings, even in Egypt. Only in North Africa Rome had beaten Carthage (do you consider Carthaginians easterners???).

    So maybe you are saying that with the Arabs, the Muslims, the easterners took back the east from the westerners that had been there since Alexander and in North Africa since the defeat of Carthage (145 BC).

    But then the Muslims, the easterners, should not have invaded Spain, France and the Balkans, don't you think?

    No, both Westerners and Easterners just wanted to conquer as much as they could, it is human nature, please do not blame the other side more than your own, and I will refrain from doing the same in reverse.

  338. Zitouni, it is Robert Spencer who speaks a lot about counter-jihad. He clarifies often what Jihad is meant to be in Islam. And he and many other Westerners, Hindus, Buddhists AND many ex-Muslims, perceive Jihad as as an intention among many Muslims, especially leaders, to violently or deceitfully establish worldwide Islam-supremacy and as a threat to freedom. So he means to counter that and his followers can be termed counter-jihadists.

    But you may call them differently; perhaps anti-Islam-hate groups. But it is important that those who on essential points agree with Ali Sina, Robert Spencer, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan etc. etc. do get a name.

    Now, an important point you raise is: What is their motivation? You think it is hatred. And certainly not truth. And, pondering about what you say, I have to admit, that of course counterjihadists can be prejudiced too, loath to admit they are wrong, yes. Too lazy often to exhaustively investigate matters, certainly.

    Yes, counterjihadists like me, can be very imperfect. But.. often their intention is democracy, freedom for all as much as possible, human rights protection, golden rule application. They can show you many positive intentions.

    And then they will point out to you with reference to Islamic most important guiding texts where Islam seems to contradict their own laws, values, higher principles.

    You should not forget, Zitouni, that our complex democratic system, with constitutional state, separation between church and state, freedom of speech, elections, autonomy for individuals, women included, etc. began to evolve in the 18th century, and Islam in the 7th century.

    So, we think we improved society since the 18th century, including then already existing Islam. And we think many of you Muslims challenge and are hostile to our improved laws, practices, values. Yes, we think that many Islamic texts and Muslims are very HATEFUL TO US.

    We explain this to you. We do it with insults, oh yes, but this is lawful to us, under freedom of speech. How do you respond?

    I think Muslims like you have much more to deal with other Muslims than with us. It is no good to only contradict us, while at the same time so many Muslims disagree with YOU and are HATEFUL to us.

    No, a group of Muslims should form the group of New Muslims and should formulate in an ongoing way what Islam-apologists say is the meaning of verses.

    And followers of this group must only be allowed IN on conditions.

    Counterjihadists can accept what Islam-apologists say on the condition that their followers are obliged to follow conditions negotiated between Islam-apologists and counter-jihadists.

    Both should be against "old, default Muslims" when they break the conditions of the Islam-apologist authoritative Islamic scholars. And refuse to accept the explanations of Islam-holy-texts by the New Muslims authoritative Islam-apologist.

    It is just not fair that Muslims like you turn a blind eye to how your fellow-Muslims talk about and behave toward many non-Muslims. And then you remain in the same organisation with these, according to you yourself, WEAK, Islam-misunderstanding, Islam-misusing members of Islam.

  339. "It is very clear verse" you say.

    A number of points in response:

    - Zitouni, considering your faith, is it even possible for you to say anything else about a verse in the Quran, coming from God. And if all you allow yourself is to accept every word from the quran, there will only be praise and never criticism from you about any verse. Or confirmation of criticism if counterjihadists present it.

    - But, there are # 1,57 Muslims, and when there are hundreds of Millions of Muslims, in past and present, who understood this and other verses differently from authoritative scholars, that you follow, how do you solve this? NOT by only contradicting those who report it to you; the counterjihadists.

    - If you take Quran-Hadiths-Sira, and then use authoritative Islamic scholars who are ready to give their explanation, meaning about these texts, that is in itself OK.

    And it would be OK to clearly say to counterjihadists; you present your interpretation of Islam-holy texts, we present ours. so far so good.

    But ……. the problem is that authoritative Islamic scholars then not say: And in our organisation of "New Muslims" it is mandatory, obligatory, to endorse our rulings on all important tenets, societal issues and vexed questions in relation to these holy texts.

    And THIS is not happening; the authoritative scholars make a huge mistake, and that is that they forbid Muslims, borne into Islam, to leave Islam!!!

    Instead the Islamic Scholars should offer membership to New Islam to born Muslims, but ON GOOD CONDITIONS. And make clear to born Muslims, when they break those conditions, they will be booted out.

    The conditions can be worked out and they can get ever more precise and better over time. It need not be about details, unnecessary for salvation. or details that do not threathen or antagonize counterjihadists. Conditions need to be about vexed Islamic questions such as debated here on Ali Sina.

  340. Have you got a link that I can watch this.

  341. To Ziyouni.
    Why are VIOLENT verses like 9:29 and 9:5 in the Quran anyway, If they have nothing to with us NOW ???
    It are (almost ) the last verses that were "revealed".
    So they abrogate ALL earlyer "peaceful"verses !!

    We cannot delete verses from Koran to be make feel happy . Many verses in koran are just piece of history used by Muslims to learn lessons from them and are no longer applicable today such as verses 9:5 which deals with Pagans arabs who broke their treaty with Muslims and verse 9 : 29 which deals with Byzantinians which declare war on Muslims by joining Arab christian tribe in war against Muslims

  342. Botros Zakaria for her is big scholar of Arabic and Islam she did not know that in videos on Youtube he said that he is not scholar in any things she missed that because Botros attack Islam only in arabic and since she is Arabic ignorant she had no clue what Botros said about himself LOL

  343. Mr darkfire316, Ithink that you should flush all the dirt out of your mind and you'll realize how dirty minded you are. I've never think dirty like you, regarding your balls because my mind is clean. I'm just curious to find out what happened to your balls and how you lost it? So, I would appreciate if you could explain how you lost your hairy balls? Are you an eunuch? ;)

  344. AMINRAT says: The verb is Sala – without Ala' – which means to pray.
    EXACTLY !!!! THANK YOU. That is WHAT I SAY TOO !!! HAHAHAHA !!!!
    YEP AND SALA WITH ALA means PRAY ON !!!
    AND "To pray on something" has a meaning similar to "to pray over something" or "to pray about something", so ALLAH is STILL PRAYING !!

    Allah is still praying , where is the word ONNNNNNNNNN ????????
    Why you keep playing games with us you are sick person you need to see a doctor. We told you 1000 times that Allah does not Pray he Prays OOOOONNNNN you get that on your dumb mind

    The phrase Allah prays never shows up in arabic as such . This is how it shows up Allah prays ONNNNNNN .

    So what is Pray on means in Arabic to send salutation , mercy and his satisfaction to prophet Muhamed or to Muslims.

    Prays on never used by Arab Muslim to mean to worship. Otherwise we will be worshiping dead people because we say I pray on dead Muslim during funeral salat . For act of worship we say I pray to ( Sala le ) Allah or I pray Salat sunset . It will be incorect to say I pray on Allah or I pray on Salat sunset . It just does not make sense in Arabic . You are ignorant in Arabic you understand the verb pray just the way they do in christianity sorry this is Islam and not christianity and this Arabic language and not English.

    THE PHRASE Allah prays ( Sala ) exist in NO WHERE IN ANY RELIGIOUS ISLAMIC TEXT no matter how hard you try to make it as such , you got that in your stupid mind

    What you can find is Allah prays ON ( sala Ala )

    Sala le or sala has completely different meaning in Arabic as the verb Sala on

    Sala le or sala is an act of worship and who ever is doing that is worshiping somebody

    Sala on is not an act of worship and when Allah is doing tha he is not worshiping anybody . He is just sending his salutation , his mercy and his greeting

  345. BUT WHY then want you muslims KILL this man. There is a FATWA issued against him.???

    As long as you are Arabic ignorant person you will always be easy meat for fake scholars of Ilslam such as Botros . The reason why there is fatwa against him not because he expose mistakes in koran as you ignorantly claimed the reason because he insults and make fun of prophet Muhamed . Any body who understand Islam and Arabic cannot stop laughing while watching Botros attacking Islam he does not even know basic arabic grammar or reading koran without making errors . You do not know that because you never watch him speaking in Arabic.

    YOU CAN JUDGE YOURSELF IF THIS ZAKARIA BOTROS IS STUPID AND IGNORANT ABOUT ISLAM !!!

    I have watched 100 of his videos the man is so ignorant. He needs first learn how to read Arabic in Koran.

    P.S. I am not a christian. I think for myself. But if someone says the truth …I AGREE WITH HIM . AND THAT IS NOT MOHAMMED ,FOR SURE !!

    How do you know that Botros says the trurth since you know no Arabic ????? . I have proven that he is ignorant when I expose his ignorance about the verb Sala Ala ( pray on ) and Sala le ( pray to ) for him there is no diference between the two verbs LOL . what will say about somebody who does not make distingshing between verb go to and go on ???? Would you consider him to be scholar of English

  346. You were'nt very MUBEEN here . Hahahaha!!!
    I think only you yourself do understand the mumbo-jumbo you babbled here!
    What I can see is that you don't agree with your muslim brother AminRAT. This muslim moron AminRAT says that Sala ala means To BLESS ! I don't, Botros does not and YOU DON'T if I understand you well .
    You muslims are a bunch of primitive SLAVES !!
    BTW. AMINRAT uses dictionaries to explane Islam . Is he wrong?

    You have not replied to my question . Which koranic expert said that Sala means to bless because Botros claimed that all Muslims think that Sala means to bless.

  347. I understand that what I said is confusing, I am sorry. But while it is true that a person can only be a lawyer to practice law in court professionally, it is also true that the laws of the land can be studied by any and all persons to their hearts content, so very much.

    Who told you that Islam can only be studied by Muslims . We have M of Arab christians in Arab world , but I have never heard there was one single one of them who was koranic expert . University is open to all arabs and non Muslims as long as you meet the entrance requirement which is to pass the oral test and that test is so hard for Arabs who are not Muslims because is about memorisation of entire koran

    And counterjihadists, often ex-Muslims, do know a lot about Islam, and the Quran, because they have studied it deeply, perhaps they own a Quran. And Quran-experts are in existence also to explain the Quran to the faithful and the world. And when they do that and ordinary counterjihadists listen carefully, these learn a lot from the experts, which they can use in discussions. And then it is unreasonable to say what a counterjihadist is wrong based on what person he is, instead it is better to listen well to the contents of what she is saying.

    I do not know wehere you are from because what you said about conterjahaist I found it very funny. As far I know there is not even one single non Muslims or ex Muslims who can be called koranic expert in whole world . This is not true in christianity where you can find world renown biblical scholar who is atheist such as famous Bart Ehrman and many more. We do not have that in Islam. Yes there are critics of Islam but those are bunch of amateurs including Arabs speaking ones with big zero credentile on Islam . Ali Sina is one of them he cannot even understand basic verse in koran which 10 yrs old kid would have and I can show it to you
    if you do not believe me

    While the experts may be better at it, Julia is still right that all persons can study and discuss Islam.

    Yes it is true , but from whom do you learn Islam ? from fake and self admitted ignorant about Islam such as Botros the teacher of Juila

  348. For the sake of argument : assume that it is true that we have to know the historical context in which this (ALL?) verses were revealed. What did people 10000 years earlyer have to with THÁT CONTEXT ? AND NOW 1400 years later?The Quran is ETERNAL according tou you, primitive thinking, muslims. IS IT NOT ? Is the Quran NOT FOR NOW ANYMORE?

    Who told you that everything in koran is good for all time . when Koran was revealed 1400 yrs ago it talked about past such as story of Moses and what God told Moses to do was not necesary all of it concerned Muslims during Muhamed time and when Koran talked about the present such as verse 9 : 29 which is history to us today and what God told Muslims to do back them again not necessary every thing concern us today. When koran mentioned that God instructed Moses to fight war in Palestine , Muslims during Muhamed time did not think they too have to do the same in Palestine so when God instructed Muslims to fight Byzantinians in verse 9 : 29 we Muslims today do not think that this verse is still good because we have to take the historical context into consideration .

    Are you saying that LATER, AFTER THAT event there were no DHIMMIES anymore, and that there never will be anymore DHIMMIES TO BE HUMILIATED ???
    ANSWER THESE QUESTION IF YOU CAN , YOU EVIL LIAR !!!

    Taking prisoner of war as slaves was not invented by Muslims . This practise was long before Islam and Muslims had to use it because the enemy was using it . Since these people stoped doing that all Muslims scholars are saying taking femal captives and dealing with war prisners like used to be before is strictely forbiden under sharia law

  349. I sure appreciate that you gave me such a good explanatory, clear reaction, Zitouni. Now I understand better the position of the Muslims.

    I apreciate your intelectual aproach to the subject you are at least not like Julia who is only engages in insult

    But I don't agree with you.

    I have no problem with that

    YOU, Zitouni, did explain the context of verse 9;29. You used for this your sources, among them quran-hadiths-sira. BUT the verse 9;29 still is unclear, incomplete, multi-interpretable.

    It is very clear verse . Chritianity and chritsians did not pump up few days before the revelation of verse 9 : 29 . There were around and Muslims knew them and koran talked about them long before 9 : 29 . There is a verse in koran where it says that christians are the closest to Muslims . Prophet first thing he did with christians he sent his followers to seek refuge in Ethiopia and told them its ruler is good king and first thing he did with Byzantinians he sent lettter of invitation and friendship to emperor of Byzantine and not an army to attack him . But whites had something else in their mind . They perceived Islam as treat to their imperialist ambition so they quickly jumbed to war with Muslims once they found an excuse .

    interpretations, of verse 9;29, almost exactly as the counterjihadists say.

    For you counterjihadist are people like Ali sina and robert spencer LOL . I thought counterjihadist are Muslims , but do not believe in Jihad. You are using the wrong people to interpret verse 9 : 29, None of those guys can read or write Arabic plus they are driven by hate and not searching for truth . I am more familiar with Ali Sina then spencer because I debated him here until he ran out of tricks and withdrew from the ring. I can send you the link and see what I have done to him . Koran is very clear about war Muslims are allowed to fight only people who are fighting them thats all . If you were told otherwise then which army attacked Christian Ethiopia and subgicated it

    But under current circumstances your fellow-Muslims with different interpretations of verse 9;29 and other most important guiding texts ruin so much for you.

    People who interpret verse 9 : 29 out of context are wrong whether they are Muslims or not .

    Like the interpretation that simply ALL disbelievers, not just the ones you mention, with the attendant reasons why, should be fought and subjugated and taxed.

    the words disbelievers is usually mistranslated so you have to show me the verse then I will tell you whether is the translation is correct or not

    But in 632 until 1683, with the siege of Vienna, the Muslims fought against countless disbelievers and they subdued and taxed many of them, in all wind-directions. AND THEY NO DOUBT USED THIS TEXT as justification in the way we counterjihadists suspect it was meant.

    Listen Muslims were living in era in which there were no international borders or UN and no security council. The only thing that was respected back then is force . Before there was any Islam white Europeans were ocupying all N Africa and all great Syria while the rest of the Arab land was under Persian control such as Yemen , Bahrian. qatar, Emirat . Kuweit , Iraq and Oman those countries are not historical Persia . So who is the agressor here ? did you ask yourself what the hell these foreigners (Persian and Byzanti ) are doing in those land . When Arabs get united and felt they can get rid of these ocupiers which eventually did it those empires got pissed of . When arab started war with Persian they were only interested to kick them out of Arabia and they did it , but Persian returned and took the lands that they lost when General Khalid left to Syrian front . Khalifa Omar said to one Muslim commander I wish there was mountain of fire between us and the Persian so that they will not be able to come back again , but the commander told him the only way to stop them from returning is to roam in their land which it means to invade Persia itself and destroy their dynasty and thats exactly what Omar instructed Sad ibn Wakas when they decided to started the war with Persia again. Thats how war fought back then because there was not something called recognised international borders like is today . When war began t between empires usually ends with one empire ceased to exist otherwise they come back again to invade you . White Europeans did it they never forget midles east they returned in what was called crusad war then colonial war and now we have their bases all over midles east

    And the fault is in the text, it does not clearly explain which enemies, and which not to fight and subdue, it does not specify circumstances in which to fight. It only speaks about disbelievers.

    You are wrong about that . koran says fight those who fight you

    But divers interpretations of this text are possible and equally valid, logical given the exact words of the text, which is highly incomplete or can be highly misused if your interpretation of it is to be seen as the right one. And the misuse can be exposed.

    Interpreattion are left to the expert s . of course if you let anybody to interpret verses in koran concerning wars this world in which we live will be mad house

  350. "while he has self admitted in videos that he is not LOL "

    Which one?

  351. I speak as a thinking human being, and you should do so also . I think for myself. I AM NOT A SLAVE !!!

    I do not think so all what you were spiting here was taken from anti Islamic website . your Botros was speaking for you beacsue you know no Arabic he was the one wrongly defining meaning of verb Sala to you and you tiook it from him blindly and know you could not defend his false dedfinition after I disaproved it this shows that you were easy meant for this fake Muslim scholar

    I don't care what you silly muslims have "created" like "AZABU NOZUL". That is ALL crap invented by evil LIARS (imams and so called "SCHOLARS"), who are fooling you.

    You are not qualified to distinguish between fake scholar in Islam and real one just look what you thought about Botros you were calling him great scholar of Islam and Arabic while he has self admitted in videos that he is not LOL

    Historical context has nothing to do with THE ETERNAL WORD OF A GOD. There is no historical context in the Quran.

    LOL who told you that Botros LOL

    This evil book is NOT even in chronological order ,according to muslims themselves. Hadiths are all HEARSAY: He said this and he NARRATED that. Fairy tales.!

    Nobody care about comment made by ignorant people

  352. A small contradiction – weren't you at one time terming me as an Islamic scholar – then when it suited you . . . now once more you have changed your mind.

    You do suffer from such 'attacks' from time to time.

  353. I wonder if Jesus would talk this way and use dirty analogies like you do.

  354. Who are you to say that no need for scholars of Ilslam ".
    ———— WHO ARE YOU (or anybody else) to say there is need for scholars of Islam.

    This is liike saying who are you to say there is no need for qualified surgeon to save lifes in hospitals anybody can go ahead and perfrom surgery on any patient he choses LOL

    AGAIN : Allah says in hin evil Quran that his verses are explained in detail and MUBEEN =CLEAR. (http://tayyibaat.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/quranic-characteristic-5-mubeen/ ).

    This does not mean anybody can understand evrything in koran . Books of math are clear to somebody with phd in mtah , but this does not mean barber or car meachinic will understand them . If non qualified person failed to understand koran or math books then he should blame himself because expert do not have that problem

    Zitouni you are a real brainwashed muslim ; you don't think for yourself ; you just listen to socalled "scholars" and go along with them whatever they say.
    So you are primitive, pathetic , backward , silly OBEYING SLAVE ! SORRY ! I'TS THE TRUTH !!

    You are acusing me of what you are doing , but at least idiot I am listening to real scholar of Islam while your teacher is self admitted ignorant of Islam LOL

  355. Mr self righteousdarkfire316, why are you so offended when I asked about your lost of balls? Would you criticize a doctor if he is concerned about your balls?

  356. "Again this "predict". O.K. ,Aminrat your are a fake propet now too, like your evil perfect role model ( al Insan al Kamil) , yeah….right ! Are you happy now? Silly kid. "

    This kind of nonsense is expectant of Julia.

    Who is after all a lonely white man somewhere.

    A creature truly to be pitied.

  357. Ah. . . poor Julia is at its wits end. As I have pointed out before. The poor thing runs out of steam. When there is no counter-argument.

    Just insults left.

  358. See . . . this is what happens when you become exposed for what you are . . . . a net troll.

    Pity there is nothing more.

  359. The link – which doesn't open!

    Also this dictionary is an English dictionary.

    - – -

  360. Your comment is an OBVIOUS lie.

    Where has all this thinking gone. . . . why couldn't you apply this superior er . . . ability beforehand.

    Now you embarrass yourself even further. . . by lying easily & openly.

    - – -

    "The verb is Sala – without Ala' – which means to pray.
    EXACTLY !!!! THANK YOU. That is WHAT I SAY TOO !!! HAHAHAHA !!!! "

    And it also means to supplicate & petition.

    - – -

    "YEP AND SALA WITH ALA means PRAY ON !!!
    AND "To pray on something" has a meaning similar to "to pray over something" or "to pray about something", so ALLAH is STILL PRAYING !! "

    How and where? Why is it all sources say otherwise?

  361. " primitive thinking, muslims. "

    Which brains were you using – over this er . . . Sala business?

    Why all the lies?

  362. "But even more important; the Quran is trumpeted as for all times and as very clear, as Julia says, and if it was indeed directed against treacherous Byzantines & their allies, then the words 9:29 are highly inaccurate and disinformative!!! "

    You have already betrayed in your support of Julia and such like – that pursuit of "truth" is NOT what you are after.

    Just like Sina – as long as it supposedly anti-Islam – you will show your support for it.

    Whether something is right or wrong doesn't matter – read it – that is enough. Verifying the accuracy . .. doesn't matter.

    - – -

    And that IS hate-mongering.

    - – -

  363. "you just listen to socalled "scholars" and go along with them whatever they say. "

    Touche! – for example – you read and brainwashed yourself over fallacious material – then when challenged – you go into foul mouthed rants.

    Just look at the whole drama you built – all the lies and little untruths – how they came crumbling down.

    - – -

    If you are so intelligent – then why do your comments betray you?

    "So you are primitive, pathetic , backward , silly OBEYING SLAVE ! SORRY ! I'TS THE TRUTH !! "

    What sane person writes like this?

  364. "Counterjihadists often take their clues and interpretations from real islamic clerics. And counterjihadists can present an endless chain of clerics and followers who understand Islam, on certain tenets, issues, exactly the same as counterjihadists do. This ongoing division and confusion among Muslims is a much bigger problem for Muslims than the counter-jihadists are. The counterjihadists only painfully point out the failures of Islam and/ or the Muslims. "

    You are good at playing such games . . . but when some pressure is applied – you have the habit of disappearing.

    More BS – especially the term "counter-jihadist".

    - – - –

    "But because of immutability for 1400 years, Islam is now RIFE with controversy and misunderstanding. Because the Islamic holy texts by now have become very obsolete, incomplete, unclear and ambiguous. "

    This makes no sense whatsoever . . . and especially when you read what you said before.

  365. "THERE ARE NO ISLAMIC SCHOLARS BECAUSE ISLAM IS NOT A SCIENCE ! STUPID,BACKWARD CRETIN. YOU ARE BEING FOOLED BY THESE BASTARDS. Are there Zen-scholars or Katholicism-scholars?, NO !! "

    Wow! Ignorance at its best.

  366. AMINRAT says: The verb is Sala – without Ala' – which means to pray.
    EXACTLY !!!! THANK YOU. That is WHAT I SAY TOO !!! HAHAHAHA !!!!
    YEP AND SALA WITH ALA means PRAY ON !!!
    AND "To pray on something" has a meaning similar to "to pray over something" or "to pray about something", so ALLAH is STILL PRAYING !! :-)

  367. THIS DICTIONARY ,EVIL TAQIYYA MUSLIM !! !http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pray
    Nothing Mysterious about it. I don't need that . You muslims use tricks etc.
    You evil muslims have even words for such practice: TAQIYYAH,KITMAN .
    But you will of course not agree with it !! I know.

  368. The backward inbred muslim Ziyouni says:
    "In his ignorant mind there is problem because he is not scholar of Arabic . The man can not even read koran withot making errors LOL . Is this kind of person that you use as refernce you are really dumb person "
    BUT WHY then want you muslims KILL this man. There is a FATWA issued against him.??? http://www.abigmessage.com/al-qaeda-puts-a-60-milhttp://www.diaryof1.com/2009/01/25/zakaria-botroshttp://sheikyermami.com/2010/08/14/father-zakaria
    I KNOW HOW YOUR REACTION WIIL BE ZITOUNI !
    Readers who wants to know about this BOTROS GO HERE : http://www.fatherzakaria.net/
    YOU CAN JUDGE YOURSELF IF THIS ZAKARIA BOTROS IS STUPID AND IGNORANT ABOUT ISLAM !!!
    P.S. I am not a christian. I think for myself. But if someone says the truth …I AGREE WITH HIM . AND THAT IS NOT MOHAMMED ,FOR SURE !!

  369. You were'nt very MUBEEN here . Hahahaha!!!
    I think only you yourself do understand the mumbo-jumbo you babbled here!
    What I can see is that you don't agree with your muslim brother AminRAT. This muslim moron AminRAT says that Sala ala means To BLESS ! I don't, Botros does not and YOU DON'T if I understand you well .
    You muslims are a bunch of primitive SLAVES !!
    BTW. AMINRAT uses dictionaries to explane Islam . Is he wrong? :-)

  370. We know your lies EVIL MUSLIM.

  371. Completely of this world, this TAQIYAA muslim AminRAT.
    Perhaps he has already blown up himself and is he now the brother of PUPPET Achmed the Dead Terrorist ! Haahahaha !!

  372. I understand that what I said is confusing, I am sorry. But while it is true that a person can only be a lawyer to practice law in court professionally, it is also true that the laws of the land can be studied by any and all persons to their hearts content, so very much.

    And counterjihadists, often ex-Muslims, do know a lot about Islam, and the Quran, because they have studied it deeply, perhaps they own a Quran. And Quran-experts are in existence also to explain the Quran to the faithful and the world. And when they do that and ordinary counterjihadists listen carefully, these learn a lot from the experts, which they can use in discussions. And then it is unreasonable to say what a counterjihadist is wrong based on what person he is, instead it is better to listen well to the contents of what she is saying.

    While the experts may be better at it, Julia is still right that all persons can study and discuss Islam.

  373. To Ziyouni.
    Why are VIOLENT verses like 9:29 and 9:5 in the Quran anyway, If they have nothing to with us NOW ???
    It are (almost ) the last verses that were "revealed".
    So they abrogate ALL earlyer "peaceful"verses !! ;-)

  374. "Who are you to say that no need for scholars of Ilslam ".
    ———— WHO ARE YOU (or anybody else) to say there is need for scholars of Islam.
    AGAIN : Allah says in hin evil Quran that his verses are explained in detail and MUBEEN =CLEAR. (http://tayyibaat.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/quranic-characteristic-5-mubeen/ ).
    Zitouni you are a real brainwashed muslim ; you don't think for yourself ; you just listen to socalled "scholars" and go along with them whatever they say.
    So you are primitive, pathetic , backward , silly OBEYING SLAVE ! SORRY ! I'TS THE TRUTH !!

  375. For the sake of argument : assume that it is true that we have to know the historical context in which this (ALL?) verses were revealed. What did people 10000 years earlyer have to with THÁT CONTEXT ? AND NOW 1400 years later?The Quran is ETERNAL according tou you, primitive thinking, muslims. IS IT NOT ? Is the Quran NOT FOR NOW ANYMORE?
    Are you saying that LATER, AFTER THAT event there were no DHIMMIES anymore, and that there never will be anymore DHIMMIES TO BE HUMILIATED ???
    ANSWER THESE QUESTION IF YOU CAN , YOU EVIL LIAR !!!

  376. I speak as a thinking human being, and you should do so also . I think for myself. I AM NOT A SLAVE !!! I don't care what you silly muslims have "created" like "AZABU NOZUL". That is ALL crap invented by evil LIARS (imams and so called "SCHOLARS"), who are fooling you. Historical context has nothing to do with THE ETERNAL WORD OF A GOD. There is no historical context in the Quran. This evil book is NOT even in chronological order ,according to muslims themselves. Hadiths are all HEARSAY: He said this and he NARRATED that. Fairy tales.!

  377. NO !! primitive backward and brainsick evil muslim Zitouni, I don't care what your evil Quran says, BUT IT IS YOUYOUYOU !! WHO CARES . AND I'M SHOWING YOU ( the person you see in the MIRROR) THAT YOUR QURAN IS A BOOK WRITTEN BY A RETARDED AND EVIL FAKE PROPHET.
    THEREFORE I DO have to quote your stupid book. Would you like me to quote "HARRY POTTER"to show that your CULT ISLAM IS FALSE AND EVIL.??? DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING NOW….YOU INBRED CRETIN !!??? Good god (not Allah !), what are these muslims stupid. !!!!!

  378. Zitouni, you might be very good at understanding and explaining the original meanings on key tenets and hotly disputed societal issues in Islam, and say: here it is, the right interpretation of Quran-Hadiths-Sira on these tenets and issues.

    But you then cannot go on and say: And all our "members" agree at least on key tenets and issues with us Islam-apologists. And if members publicly, or in their behavior, disagree, they get warnings to get with the program, or get thrown out of our organisation.

    Remember counterjihadists do have values and laws and principles with you in common. Although they present and expose unpleasant, evil, stupid interpretations and practices of Islam's guiding texts and their influence, they of course do not ENDORSE the bad interpretations and practices.

    And the Islam-apologists contradict these bad interpretations too. So counterjihadists and Islam-apologists are in agreement in rejecting many bad interpretations.

    It is only a large group of Muslims who not only interpret differently from them both but also believe and adhere to and practice differently from both Counterjihadists and Islam-apologists.

    Counterjihadists like Ali Sina and Robert Spencer, MEMRI TV and many ex-Muslims can be counted on to detect, highlight and expose different interpretations of Islam-texts from what Islam-apologists like you present. So it is futile to deal with the problem of the many diverging opinions about the interpretations of Islam by only arguing with the counterjihadists.

    There might be no other solution for conscientious Musllims then to start anew with a new organisation of new muslims, this time with certain conditions upon membership, effectively seceding from mainstream Islam. IMO.

  379. You do reply extensively and diligently, Zitouni, I appreciate that. But you are only at the beginning of unraveling problems with the most important guiding texts of Islam.

    I think both sides of the argument should be studied and compared well by interested searchers. Who would like to make the best choice of religion/ lifestyle available in the 21st century, in which so much more (perhaps a 100 or even a 1000 times as much?) information is available than before.

    It is better to try to judge all information, coming from pro's, contra's and neutrals than it is to listen to only one side and to try as much as possible to discredit and ignore the other sides. after all, the people who are Pro-Islam are often highly prejudiced themselves, aren't they?

    And even if YOUR explanation, of holy texts on important tenets of Islam and societal issues, is the best or the only valid one, then still it is evident that hundreds of Millions of average Muslims in history and now did and do not agree with this explanation and in future many may disagree with it. And plenty of evidence is given on FFI, Jihad Watch and other anti-Islam-websites of this.

    And Muslims are not bound to certain explanations on some of the most important tenets of Islam and societal issues. They are free to stay within Islam, even if they widely differ from the most skilled and widely respected scholars of Islam. Even if counterjihadists expose their divergent Islam-interpretations and practices.

    Worse, Muslims are not allowed to leave Islam, because of Islam's deathpenalty for apostasy. Which in itself divides Muslims in believers in it and disbelievers (Islam-apologists often say they do not believe in deathpenalty for apostasy) in it.

    But, in order to have a trustworthy Islam, vital important tenets should be formulated well and declared by authoritative Islam-scholars, in a conscientious subset of Islam.

    And then Muslims should be forbidden to go IN (not forbidden to go OUT) this subset of Islam, unless they fulfill certain conditions. Like adhering to the most vital tenets of this subset.

    Then when counterjihadists point out different Islam-interpretations and -practices from the ones of this subset of Islam, the members of it can say that the Muslims with the diverging interpretations and practices of Islam-texts, do not represent this subset, that they are outsiders of it. and at times on tenets and issues this subset of Islam can agree with counterjihadists.

  380. WHAT ALLAH WANTED TO SAY IS IN THIS SURAH 9:29 . (explained in detail, remember dr.Alzheimer !).
    And that is for ALL TIMES , even before the event happened. So the events can not have something to do with it. DO YOU GET THIS , MORON ??
    HE does NOT say : you must take in account the events when they are revealed. You take that from your Sunna. And THÁT IS literally HEARSAY. Stories told Hundreds of years later. ALLAH has nothing to do with that.
    YOU are the dumb one to believe this BACKWARD CRAP !!

    you speak as if you are an authority on koran LOL . This things are mentioned in books called asbabu nozul . You cannot ignore historical context of verses each verse has to be understood based time that it was revealed

  381. I sure appreciate that you gave me such a good explanatory, clear reaction, Zitouni. Now I understand better the position of the Muslims.

    But I don't agree with you.

    It is IMO good for people, and mankinds future, to try to find out the highest truth and to choose after long careful consideration the best religion/ lifestyle they can find.

    For that it is very important to consider both the good side of Islam with the Muslims and the bad or untrue side of it with counterjihadists and to see, ponder, judge and perhaps join discussion between the two.

    I compare Quran-Hadiths-Sira, which are Islam's guiding texts, which include many political goals and many human values, with constitutions, democratic laws.

    In order to keep democratic laws clear, without doubts, instead of ambiguous, complete, they on principle can be IMPROVED.

    In response to controversy about them, weakness in them like ambiguity, unclarity, incompleteness, obsoleteness etc. which will beset any long-time unchanged important guiding text, like constitutions, laws and Quran-Hadiths-Sira.

    And an immutability of those texts causes misunderstanding, misusing them by followers. Which can be mercilessly exposed by enemies or competitors of Islam, in the form of followers of other religions/ lifestyles.

    This immutability then puts defenders of immutable important guiding texts at a big disadvantage.

    YOU, Zitouni, did explain the context of verse 9;29. You used for this your sources, among them quran-hadiths-sira. BUT the verse 9;29 still is unclear, incomplete, multi-interpretable.

    Other Muslims, in other political positions, throughout history and all over the world, may perfectly legitimately offer OTHER interpretations, of verse 9;29, almost exactly as the counterjihadists say.

    And when so many Muslims understand the holy texts in diverse ways, and enemies can point this out, then the problem is in the guiding texts themselves.

    Which should somehow be improved, augmented, with parts discarded or declared no longer valid. And a subset of Muslims should adhere to the improved texts aand keep improving them and throw members out of that subset who openly have different interpretation than that subset on the most important tenets and issues of the subset of Muslims.

    But under current circumstances your fellow-Muslims with different interpretations of verse 9;29 and other most important guiding texts ruin so much for you.

    Like the interpretation that simply ALL disbelievers, not just the ones you mention, with the attendant reasons why, should be fought and subjugated and taxed.

    But in 632 until 1683, with the siege of Vienna, the Muslims fought against countless disbelievers and they subdued and taxed many of them, in all wind-directions. AND THEY NO DOUBT USED THIS TEXT as justification in the way we counterjihadists suspect it was meant.

    And the fault is in the text, it does not clearly explain which enemies, and which not to fight and subdue, it does not specify circumstances in which to fight. It only speaks about disbelievers.

    But divers interpretations of this text are possible and equally valid, logical given the exact words of the text, which is highly incomplete or can be highly misused if your interpretation of it is to be seen as the right one. And the misuse can be exposed.

  382. Julia, you said that very well and I still admire your posts and your points and most of all your passion and stamina.

    It is great that you keep pointing out why you what you do. It is great when you point out that you want to reciprocate the language and attitude that the Quran-Haditsh-Sira uses against Kafirs.

    when you made an anolgy concerning Ikoran and law I thought you were smart man because I always used the same anology when ignorants ask me how come God send a book which only expert can understand and my reply is koran is for all mankind just law in nation is for all people , but you do not have to be an expert in koran to be saved from hell things which teaches you to earn salvation in koran are easy to understand you do not need an expert just you do not have to be an expert in law to be law abiding person .hing that teaches to be saved from prsion in law are easy to know you do not need an attorney However if you want to interpret koran you have to be qualified person just like if you want to interpret law you have to be qualified pèrson

  383. YOU ARE INDDEED A VER STUPID,BACKWARD AND BRAINWASHED MUSLIM ZITOUNI !

    Thats what you are good at . Insult when you ran out of tricks

    MOHAMMED MADE THIS MISTAKE IN YOUR QURAN
    AND LATER MUSLIMS SAW THIS MISTAKE .

    Who told that Muhamed made mistake Botros LOL .

    YOUR EVIL ANCESTERS DID THIS !!! THEY FOOLED YOU AND ALL OTHER MUSLIMS AND NOW YOU BELIEVE IT IS THE TRUTH.

    this happend to you you were fooled by Botros LOL

    BOTROS SAYS: "As Father Botros points out, however, there are some problems with this explanation.

    In his ignorant mind there is problem because he is not scholar of Arabic . The man can not even read koran withot making errors LOL . Is this kind of person that you use as refernce you are really dumb person

    First of all, rare are the Arabic dictionaries indicating that the word Sala means “to bless”;

    Arab dictionaries are not used to talk about Islamic theology . Most of dictionaries talk about terms in general and not specifics . The word integrate for example means

    To integrate things is to put them together to form something new.
    but ask anybody with Phd degree in English what is the meaning of to integrate in math I bet he would tell you I do not know because thats not my expertise because it has different meaning . so if you want to know the meaning of integrate in math you have to ask math specilist and not profesor of English and you do the same with religious terms such as sala

    indeed, the only time Sala means "to bless" is when Allah does it, as in the aforementioned verse, which obviously is never translated as "pray."

    read above

  384. You did NOT and WILL NOT UNDERSTAND what BOTROS AND EXPLAINED to you about "PRAY"and "BLESS".

    Botros can fool only people like you . I asked you to tell me from where did he get that pray means bless – since you cannot tell me this shows that your Botros make fun of you LOL

    THAT IS BEACAUSE YOU are brainwashed. you have been fooled ,ALREADY HUNDRESDS OF YEARS AGO .

    The one who is brainwashed is you by Botros a man with zero credentiel on Islam

    tHESE evil MUSLIMS then SAW THE big mistake your evil fake prophet made ( BECAUSE HE WAS A NARCISIST) . HE SAID that allah prayed on him. PRAYED !!

    You are dumb and ignorant because koran also says that Allah prays on Muslims

    !Yhe other evil muslims saw this and made BLESS of this ! AND OF COURSE ALL GULLIBLE MUSLIMS LATER believed this CRAP !! And because this expression is used LONG enough it came ! (much later) in your dictionaries.
    Therefore it is ONLY there when ALLAH "speaks".

    I know that you, and Zitouni, will and cannot admit. But this is the TRUTH !
    And that is why as BOTROS says:"At one point or another, every Arabic speaker who reflects on this phrase asks, “Why—and how—does Allah go about praying on Muhammad?”

    So if this liar and zero credentiels person claims something then to you it must be true – The only arabic speaker who will ask that question is Christian one . This ignorant does not even know the difference between pray on and pray to in Arabic what great scholar of Arabic and Islam LOL

  385. To the brainwashed muslim SLAVE,ZITOUNI.
    1) you said: "You are not qualified to talk about Koran".
    This is exactly why I call you (ans other Muslims) BRAINWASHED. YOU MUSLMS ARE SLAVES, BUT WE NON-MUSLIMS ARE FREE !!

    Koran has its expert just like Math has its expert . I am not qualified to perform surgery only when I shows my medical lincense which indicats that I am trained surgeon . I cannot say your stupid comment I am free to do so .

    EVERY HUMAN BEING WITH A BRAIN IS QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT EVERY RELIGION.

    You can say anything you want about anything , but this does not mean you are qualified to speak about the subject . Can you take my words concerning your health if you know I am not a doctor ? I do not think so .Smart people only listen to the comment of expert on the fields and i believe you do the same with everything , but when it comes to Islam you take comment of every tom and hury as fact this shows that you are driven by hate of Islam and not intelectual aproach

  386. I give you a famous non-muslim scolar of Arabic and Quran.
    Wikipedia says: " Dr.Gerd Rüdiger Puin (born 1940) is a German scholar and an authority on Qur'anic historical orthography, the study and scholarly interpretation of ancient manuscripts. He is also a specialist in Arabic paleography.

    There you go again makimg somebody expert in koran when he is not . Do you know dumy what orthography and paleography means

    An orthography is a standardized system for using a particular writing system (script) to write a particular language.

    Palaeography or Palæography, also spelt paleography (from Greek παλαιός palaiós, "old" and γράφειν graphein, "to write") is the study of ancient writing. Included in the discipline is the practice of deciphering, reading, and dating historical manuscripts,[2] and the cultural context of writing, including the methods with which writing and books were produced, and the history of scriptoria.[3]

    This is what we call scholar of koran :

    Scholar of Arabic grammar
    scholar of arabic literature
    scholar of Balagha / eleguency
    scholar of ancient Arabic
    scholar of Tafsir science

    He Knows the entire koran by heart

  387. So not only does she lie, but she uses language that an "intelligent" "Christian Woman" woman would use. "Big Hairy Balls" I wonder if Jesus ever talked like that and resorted to such childishness. You aren't making your case at all. Infact, you're proving every single point of how pathetic you are and that's not ad-hominem. That's simply the truth.

  388. I wonder if Jesus would talk this way. Such a good Christian you are and a shiny example of the language Jesus would use.

  389. You did NOT prove that at all, Zitouni. You proved NOTHING.
    But what I (JULIA) can say, you know MORE
    about Arabic then AMINRIADH the indian TAQIYYA MUSLIM.
    THÁT IS CLEAR TO ALL OF US !!!
    You are fooled by your EVIL muslim experts !

    The only person who can be fooled is somebody like you becasue you are Arabic ignorant and I can see what Botros has done to you . He made me you believe that verb sala ala is same as sala to .

  390. But … this story is from the winners side. And written a long time after the actual events, as both Sira AND Hadiths were written or compiled long after the death of Mohammad.

    You are engaging in double standard here . Do you use this standard with all history or just Muslims one . WWII history should be thrown out because it was written by winners side , are you going to accept that . What you do not know is Sira and hadith of the prophet were circulating orally before they were finaly written down in era of Abasid dynasty because Arabs were culture of orals they never wrote down their history , but Abasid changed that around 150 .

    From what we know of history in about 622-632 AD the Byzantine empire was totally exhausted after a devastating war with the Persian empire and the Avars and civil wars and unrest and after decimation of it's population by pestilences. And of course the Byzantines were in financial disarray, unable to pay off Arab allies, who thus had no longer any qualms about betraying them.

    And so it is much more logical to believe that the Byzantines at that period were VERY WEAK and in a mode of defense and repair. And it was the Arabs, under Mohammad, who sensed weakness and opportunities. Who were the real aggressors, using these opportunities unscrupulously.

    Wrong . They were victorious in war against Persia few year before they attacked Muslims .They were in control of most middle east and N Africa – in Their final battle against Muslims on battle of warmok they assubled an army of more than 200K men .does this sound to you weak empire ? I do not think so

    But even more important; the Quran is trumpeted as for all times and as very clear, as Julia says, and if it was indeed directed against treacherous Byzantines & their allies, then the words 9:29 are highly inaccurate and disinformative!!!

    You are not qualified to interpert koran . We have in koran something called asbabo nuzul meaning reason of revelation is very importanyt to know it because it helps to interpret the verses .

    Because at that time there were many more disbelieving people, who were not guilty of what the Byzantines & allies had done. But still the Muslims were encouraged to fight them too.

    which one .??? Enemy of Islam use verse 9 29 to show that Muslims are urged by koran to fight people of the book just because they are christians which is non sense. There was Najran a christian tribe in Arabia and prophet did not attack them and also Abasynia in Africa which was christian country and prophet advised his followers to migrate there during persecution years and Muslim never invaded that country even after they became super power . The war was all the time with white people from Europe because as it is today they want to ocupy that part of the world and steal the natural resources . Byzantinians had no business of being in midles east and N Africa they were Europeans so they were agressors. The reason why Muslim had to attack Europe because this people they never stopped coming back to midles east and this still true up to this day . Just after few years they were kicked out from egypt they returned and ocupied Alexandria so Muslims had to kicked them out . Why these sick pèople could not remain where they were from.Enemuy of Islam, today they never say to you that Byzantinians were ocupiers they make it sound they were middle eastern people and Muslim were barbarians attacking them

    As they did, all the way to Tours in France, in 732, and far, far into the East.

    We are talking about verse 9 29 . If you want to know why Muslims had to chase these sick people even in Europe then read above again

    Either the Quran in verse 9;29 was very treacherously UNCLEAR, not naming specific enemies or specific circumstances, or Muslims are whitewashing pure Islamic supremacy-instructions.

    You have only been told about verse 9 29 . Koran urges Muslims to fight only those who fight them . It says fight those who fight you and do not transgress . So there is nothing in koran which is unclear about war

  391. Returning to Islam is like reabsorbing your own intestinal waste products!

    Muqatta'at – abbreviated

    Quran 2:1 AL-BAQARAH (THE COW) Verses: 286 Revealed: Medina – Alif Lam Mim.

    Alif (ا): an abbreviation for Ana (أنا, I am)

    Lām (ل): an abbreviation for Allāh (الله, using the second letter)

    Mīm (م): as either an abbreviation for Al-'Alīm (العليم, the Knowing, using the ending letter) or for Al-Majīd (المجيد, the Glorious).

    I am Allah, the knowing, the glorious.

    Quran 2:1-2 AL-BAQARAH (THE COW) – Alif Lam Mim. dhālika l kitābu lā rayba fīhi hudan lil'muttaqīna.

    Quran 2:1-2 AL-BAQARAH (THE COW) – I am Allah, the knowing, the glorious. That the Book in it no doubt, a guidance for the God conscious (lil'muttaqīna).

  392. Mr darkfire316, yes, we're going to talk about your hairy balls and I'm really curious to know what has actually happened to your balls and how you lost it?

  393. "EVERY HUMAN BEING WITH A BRAIN IS QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT EVERY RELIGION. "

    Julia, you said that very well and I still admire your posts and your points and most of all your passion and stamina.

    It is great that you keep pointing out why you what you do. It is great when you point out that you want to reciprocate the language and attitude that the Quran-Haditsh-Sira uses against Kafirs.

    This was written and practiced especially in a time and also in places when and where Islam was/ is very powerful and opposition against it weak.

    We know this. But Muslims act as if it never happened or happens, perhaps they really don't know it, in many cases. But then so many Muslims are simply not open to our arguments and history-facts and current situations in Islamic societies. As they should, as we are open to all that they say.

    But I commend Zitouni and Aminriadh as a much better opponents than Shabeer ever was! But this opposition it is that makes you come out so much better, stronger, more pronounced. AND GROWING TOO, getting more "likes" too. Amazing, really. Keep up the good work!

  394. YOU ARE INDDEED A VER STUPID,BACKWARD AND BRAINWASHED MUSLIM ZITOUNI !
    MOHAMMED MADE THIS MISTAKE IN YOUR QURAN
    AND LATER MUSLIMS SAW THIS MISTAKE .
    I DO NOT SAY HOW YOUR ARABIC IS . YOUR EVIL ANCESTERS DID THIS !!! THEY FOOLED YOU AND ALL OTHER MUSLIMS AND NOW YOU BELIEVE IT IS THE TRUTH.
    BOTROS SAYS: "As Father Botros points out, however, there are some problems with this explanation. First of all, rare are the Arabic dictionaries indicating that the word Sala means “to bless”; indeed, the only time Sala means "to bless" is when Allah does it, as in the aforementioned verse, which obviously is never translated as "pray."
    Aminriadh knows this ,ASK HIM !!!

  395. You did NOT and WILL NOT UNDERSTAND what BOTROS AND EXPLAINED to you about "PRAY"and "BLESS".
    THAT IS BEACAUSE YOU are brainwashed. you have been fooled ,ALREADY HUNDRESDS OF YEARS AGO . tHESE evil MUSLIMS then SAW THE big mistake your evil fake prophet made ( BECAUSE HE WAS A NARCISIST) . HE SAID that allah prayed on him. PRAYED !!!Yhe other evil muslims saw this and made BLESS of this ! AND OF COURSE ALL GULLIBLE MUSLIMS LATER believed this CRAP !! And because this expression is used LONG enough it came ! (much later) in your dictionaries.
    Therefore it is ONLY there when ALLAH "speaks".
    I know that you, and Zitouni, will and cannot admit. But this is the TRUTH !
    And that is why as BOTROS says:"At one point or another, every Arabic speaker who reflects on this phrase asks, “Why—and how—does Allah go about praying on Muhammad?”

  396. Yes, you explained what happened just before verse 9-29 was revealed by Allah to Mohammed.

    But … this story is from the winners side. And written a long time after the actual events, as both Sira AND Hadiths were written or compiled long after the death of Mohammad.

    From what we know of history in about 622-632 AD the Byzantine empire was totally exhausted after a devastating war with the Persian empire and the Avars and civil wars and unrest and after decimation of it's population by pestilences. And of course the Byzantines were in financial disarray, unable to pay off Arab allies, who thus had no longer any qualms about betraying them.

    And so it is much more logical to believe that the Byzantines at that period were VERY WEAK and in a mode of defense and repair. And it was the Arabs, under Mohammad, who sensed weakness and opportunities. Who were the real aggressors, using these opportunities unscrupulously.

    But even more important; the Quran is trumpeted as for all times and as very clear, as Julia says, and if it was indeed directed against treacherous Byzantines & their allies, then the words 9:29 are highly inaccurate and disinformative!!!

    Because at that time there were many more disbelieving people, who were not guilty of what the Byzantines & allies had done. But still the Muslims were encouraged to fight them too. As they did, all the way to Tours in France, in 732, and far, far into the East.

    Either the Quran in verse 9;29 was very treacherously UNCLEAR, not naming specific enemies or specific circumstances, or Muslims are whitewashing pure Islamic supremacy-instructions.

    And moreover, Islam-apologists can declare what verse 9; 29 means according to them to outsiders like us. But at the same time countless times in the past and still today OTHER MUSLIMS did believe the same explanation as the counter-jihadists offer.

    And why do the Islam-apologists not admit that, why don't they declare that according ONLY to THEIR interpretation of the holy texts this is what meant? I

    Instead they are pretending that THEIR interpretation is sort of the one and only valid interpretation. But the words of verse 9;29 together with the assertion that the Quran is of divine origine simply do not allow for just one possible valid interpretation. And this should make Islam-apologists much more humble.

  397. Yes, just look at how peaceful the Muslim countries right from Pakistan to Lebanon. All kinds of bombings n gunfights are happening all over these countries. Look like the terminators are terminating each others, then we shall have the PEACE finally.

  398. LISTEN DIMWITZITOUNI:
    You sais: "Your question is wrong nobody asks about the meaning of Alphabet of any language".———–
    How can a question be wrong ?
    "Alif Lam Meem" IS NOT THE WHOLE ALPHABET , it are 3 letters just as surah verse 19:1–"Kaf, Ha, Ya, 'Ayn, Sad." are 4 letters. Take the letters T.V. ,You know what that means or U.S.A., You know what that means. But Allah, or rather your crazy fake propet MOHAMMED CRIED many strange letters; AND NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THEAY MEAN !!! Hahahahaha.
    While Allah "himself says that his Quran is 'mubeen,' or 'clear'.
    And what is even more ridiculous, YOU DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM !! YEP….YOU MUSLIMS ARE BRAINWASHED !!

  399. To the brainwashed muslim SLAVE,ZITOUNI.
    1) you said: "You are not qualified to talk about Koran".
    This is exactly why I call you (ans other Muslims) BRAINWASHED. YOU MUSLMS ARE SLAVES, BUT WE NON-MUSLIMS ARE FREE !!
    EVERY HUMAN BEING WITH A BRAIN IS QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT EVERY RELIGION.
    2)"Here God want to prove to us that what Muhamed receive from God is in deed the word of God". Is that in the Quran? WITH THIS YOUR IMAM FOOLED YOU !! OF COURSE .
    I find this "ANSWER" UNBELIEVABLE STUPID AND PRIMITIVE !!! HAHAHAHA

  400. I give you a famous non-muslim scolar of Arabic and Quran.
    Wikipedia says: " Dr.Gerd Rüdiger Puin (born 1940) is a German scholar and an authority on Qur'anic historical orthography, the study and scholarly interpretation of ancient manuscripts. He is also a specialist in Arabic paleography. He was a lecturer of Arabic at Saarland University, in Saarbrücken Germany." THIS SCHOLAR SAYS YHIS ABOUT QURAN:
    "The Koran (Quran) claims for itself that it is 'mubeen,' or 'clear,' but IF YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT EVERY FITH SENTENCE OR SO SIMPLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Many Muslims—and Orientalists—will tell you otherwise, of course, but the fact is that a fifth of the Koranic text is just incomprehensible. This is what has caused the traditional anxiety regarding translation. If the Koran is not comprehensible—if it can't even be understood in Arabic—then it's not translatable. People fear that. And since the Koran claims repeatedly to be clear but obviously is not—as even speakers of Arabic will tell you—there is a contradiction."…..OUCH !!! :-)

  401. You did NOT prove that at all, Zitouni. You proved NOTHING.
    But what I (JULIA) can say, you know MORE
    about Arabic then AMINRIADH the indian TAQIYYA MUSLIM.
    THÁT IS CLEAR TO ALL OF US !!! ;-)
    You are fooled by your EVIL muslim experts !

  402. Is this your best arguement? Can you give me one example or are you going to keep talking about balls?

  403. Botros’ pertinent question: If Sala means to “bless,” why then does the recitation go on to use the proper Arabic word for “bless” (Baraka/Barik) in the same exact context? If both mean “bless,” why the redundancy?

    I have already replied to that , but you have memory of donkey . I said which koranic scholar told Botros sala means bless . I am waiting for your reply . If you cannot come up with an answer then you have to forget about this self admitted no credentiel on Islam person

  404. To the EVIL, BACKWARD, BRAINWASHED, ARAB muslim Zitouni.
    1) I am not a christian. So I certainly don't use Christian theology .

    but you are using theology of Botros who is christian to make your arguement about the meaning of Sala in Arabic

    2) If you are SO smart , then why didn't you notice that I forgot a question mark at the end of my sentence when I wrote : "BUT ,ZITOUNI, HOW CAN ALLAH PRAY? TO HIMSELF ? TO MOHAMMED .
    Who told you Allah pray TO from where did you get this verbe thats what I want to know . I also asked you which Koranic scholar told Botros that Sala means bless .

    So the quetion still is: TO MOHAMMED ?????

    read above

    3)You say here: "When Allah prays on Muslims or on his prophet he is not praying to anybody……
    YEP, THÁT IS ISLAMIC LOGIC !!

    Thats Arabic language and Muslim theology . You cannot teach Arabs how to talk their language. You are like Ali Sina who changes concept of things such as refering to divorced wife ( ex wife ) as my wife in order to make his argument . You want tio change the meaning of the verb ( pray on ) to (pray to ) to make an argunet is not going to work with me

    Why did Allah not use the the PURE (!) Arabic word بارك BLESS if he wants to say that ?? Is ALLAH DUMB TOO ?? HAHAHA
    I love it it to humiliate and mock evil muslims !!

    You are Arabic ignorant I understand your question question LOL

  405. NO ZITOUNI ,You are trying to get away!! OUT OF SHAME !
    Ayat like 2:1 and 3:1 are VERSES of your EVIL FAKE god Allah, that's why they are numbered.
    YOU and ALL MUSLIMS ARE DUMB.!! You reciting these letters many times…WHY !!! If it really are just Arabic alphabet , then WHY are these crazy letters in your SO CALLED HOLY QURAN. What you are saying now is that your ALLKNOWNG AN AL MIGHTY Allah said some thing without any meaning at all !!
    Such things do only INSANE BEINGS (gods, people,Mohammed ?)

    You are not qualified to talk about Koran . Your question is wrong nobody asks about the meaning of Alphabet of any language otherwise what is the meaning of A, L , M in English . Alphabets are used to form words that have meaning .God in koran did not use aphabet to form a word in koran that has no meaning in Arabic language . Those alphabets in koran may not have meaning to us , but they do have meaning for God . Ileterate people do not know alphabets they prounce the word . but they cannot tell you what are the alphabets from which the word is made up . Your question should have rather been what are those Alphabets doing in koran . As you know prophet was iliterate so how did he prounced alphabets ( Alif Lam and Meen ) since we know that ileterate people are unable to prounce alphabets . Here God want to prove to us that what Muhamed receive from God is in deed the word of God otherwise who told Muhamed to read that as seperate alphabets and not as one word because if you take Alif , lam and meem and put them together in the following order Alif Lam Meem you will come up with alam which is word in Arabic language that has meaning

  406. WHAT ALLAH WANTED TO SAY IS IN THIS SURAH 9:29 . (explained in detail, remember dr.Alzheimer !).
    And that is for ALL TIMES , even before the event happened. So the events can not have something to do with it. DO YOU GET THIS , MORON ??
    HE does NOT say : you must take in account the events when they are revealed. You take that from your Sunna. And THÁT IS literally HEARSAY. Stories told Hundreds of years later. ALLAH has nothing to do with that.
    YOU are the dumb one to believe this BACKWARD CRAP !!

  407. I am not an Arabic expert or koranic expert , but I know Arabic and Islam better than Botros and you thats all I can say . I am using what expert of Arabiic and Islam says to explain to you what you misundersand about Islam and Arabic

  408. To the EVIL, BACKWARD, BRAINWASHED, ARAB muslim Zitouni.
    1) I am not a christian. So I certainly don't use Christian theology .
    2) If you are SO smart , then why didn't you notice that I forgot a question mark at the end of my sentence when I wrote : "BUT ,ZITOUNI, HOW CAN ALLAH PRAY? TO HIMSELF ? TO MOHAMMED .
    I'm only human , just like your EVIL fake prophet said of himself.
    So the quetion still is: TO MOHAMMED ?????
    3)You say here: "When Allah prays on Muslims or on his prophet he is not praying to anybody……
    YEP, THÁT IS ISLAMIC LOGIC !!
    Why did Allah not use the the PURE (!) Arabic word بارك BLESS if he wants to say that ?? Is ALLAH DUMB TOO ?? HAHAHA
    I love it it to humiliate and mock evil muslims !!

  409. Mr darkfire316, I don't blame you for stalking me and criticizing me because you have no balls. What happened to your balls?

  410. Your brother Aminriadh does CLEARLY not agree with you!
    IS HE DUMB TOO ? I guess you are right , this time !! Hahahahaha!

  411. To ZITOUNI .
    Aminriadh sayd: "Zitouni – or whatever is no Arabic expert. Ask the person – s/he will agree. "
    There you go,Zitouni. Aminriadh is suggesting that you are talking nonsense. IS HE RIGHT ?
    You are NO ARABIC EXPERT,Aminriadg says CLEARLY ! So what are you babbling here ??
    WHAT IS YOUR ANWER TO Aminriadh and me, ZITOUNI. ?

  412. You are afraid of your ARAB MUSLIM SLAVE MASTER ,AMINRAT.
    That's clear ! And you should be ,his ancesters raped, enslaved and killed YOUR ancesters and forced them to accept Islam.
    The Question :What do" Alif,Lam ,Meem" means is indeed an OLD one. And THAT makes it even more painful for you muslims, OF COURSE. YOU, AminRAT, say these VERSES are CLEAR.
    ZITOUNI SAYS IT ARE NO VERSES and he DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN. He even asks ME to explain these "LETTERS"!
    NO ONE CAN AN ANSWER IT . Many muslim "SCHOLARS" tried but no one can. But that does of course not mean that this question does not exists anymore. THE QUESTION BECOMES EVER MORE IMPORTANT. BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT YOUR EVIL FAKE GOD ALLAH TALKS NONSENSE AND IS A LIAR (for not being clear ). YEP…this is the hard TRUTH.
    Think about it, IF YOU DARE ? ;-)

  413. NO ZITOUNI ,You are trying to get away!! OUT OF SHAME !
    Ayat like 2:1 and 3:1 are VERSES of your EVIL FAKE god Allah, that's why they are numbered.
    YOU and ALL MUSLIMS ARE DUMB.!! You reciting these letters many times…WHY !!! If it really are just Arabic alphabet , then WHY are these crazy letters in your SO CALLED HOLY QURAN. What you are saying now is that your ALLKNOWNG AN AL MIGHTY Allah said some thing without any meaning at all !!
    Such things do only INSANE BEINGS (gods, people,Mohammed ?)

  414. FATHER Zakaria Botros gave the following reference:
    More telling is when Botros read aloud one of the standard recitations Muslims say at specific events from Al-Majmu’ Al-Nawwawi, vol.8, p.202: “Allah Sala on Muhammad and his family, as you did with Ibrahim and his family." After a few more recitations, the prayer goes back and says, "Allah bless Muhammad and his family, as you did with Ibrahim and his family…”

    Botros’ pertinent question: If Sala means to “bless,” why then does the recitation go on to use the proper Arabic word for “bless” (Baraka/Barik) in the same exact context? If both mean “bless,” why the redundancy?

  415. TO ALL MUSLIMS, ESPECIALLY THE SO CALLED "SCHOLARS".
    It is ALWAYS Funny to see the answers of muslims on questions and critics of Islam , Quran and Sunna.
    IN MOST CASES the muslims will say : THE TRANSLATION IS WRONG !!! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, or something like this.
    THIS IS REALLY RIDICULOUS …….SO , here is my VERYsimple QUESTION:
    WHY DO THESE "SCHOLARS " NOT PRODUCE A really GOOD TRANSLATION ???
    Even muslim "scholars"disagree , like Zitouni and Aminriadh. They will deny it, but all readers have seen this.
    Can Arabic not be transtated ? Is Islam sóóó difficult to understand that even these so called
    "SCHOLARS "can not explain it ? How can muslims then believe in something which is not explainable?
    Can ALLAH not be clear ,like he said again and again in the Quran ???
    Hello muslims !!! : Give us rational answers to these questions, please.

  416. Hence in this instance صلى على means "to bless". As referenced by all major Arabic dictionaries.

    صلى على does have other connotations — to pray for someone. See link for Lane's Lexicon.

    - – -

    This person Julia – is simply out to abuse you. All s/he has read is that Botros article – which conveniently gives no references. S/he isn't a bit interested in exploring the truth of the matter. That is why you will hear plenty of short abusive messages.

    Especially as s/he is unable to give answers.

    For example – she claimed initially – after reading that Botros article – that anyone can see in Arabic dictionaries. But I pointed out that Arabic dictionaries say opposite to what s/he is claiming.
    http://www.tyndalearchive.com/tabs/lane/

    The entry gives further examples –

    اللهم صلى علي آل ابي اوفى
    meaning Oh God, bless the family of Aboo Owfah: or have mercy on &c

    - – -

    صلى has even more meanings – for example for horses it is said – in the meaning of – "to follow" i.e in a race.

    - – - –

    Lane's also mentions – meaning of this word in respect to Old Arabic poetry – but the entry isn't complete – he simply references it the actual classical dictionary.

    - – -

    The root of the word/verb صلى actually means to He prayed, supplicated or petitioned.

    Hence the word صلاۃ isn't just in the sense of its linguistic form but is also a technical term.

  417. To the now again proven STUPID Arab Mohammedan Zitouni.
    You wrote: "which Koranic expert say that Sala means to bless ???."….

    Thats what I want to know from where did Botros get this idea .? if he said he heard it from a Muslim expert on Koran , which one ? . I am still waiting for your reply

    IN صلى الله عليه وسلم‎ ( ṣall Allāhu ʿalay-hi wa-sallam) IT SAYS THEREFORE :
    ALLAH PRAYS ON HIM (mohammed!!!!) AND PEACE ! ( or,in better English: "May Allah pray on him and grat him peace" and NOT , PBUH ="peace be upon him.".
    BUT ,ZITOUNI, HOW CAN ALLAH PRAY? TO HIMSELF ? TO MOHAMMED

    I think you have inteligence of donkey . Above you said Allah prays on him then you came to the botton and put how can Allah pray to himself ? to Mohamed. You did not notice dummy that you have changed ON with TO

    This is what you could not get in your dumb stupid mind Pray to and pray on are too completley different verbs just like the verb go to and go on in English

    Allah prayer on the prophet would be his mercy , salutation and his satisfaction with his prophet .When Allah prays on Muslims or on his prophet he is not praying to anybody he is just sending his mercy and his salutation to his prophet and to us and this act is called in Arabic pray on .If you think that pray on is used by muslim to worship Allah then you have to show me where it is mentioned anywhere in Islamic litterature the phrase I pray on (Sali ala ) Allah . Your problem is you are using Christian theology to explain Muslim theolgy and this very dumb from your part .

  418. "YOU are the scholar of Islam !!! Hhahahahha! "

    One of Julia's old lies. She tried it on me.

    - – -

    Those verses ARE clear. What is unclear about them. I have explained this in detail. But of course – when Julia – cannot answer back.

    It is back to repeating. hence why s/he cover up with so much swearing.

  419. IT IS : ALIF LAM MEEM. It is PURE ARABIC, not English, BACKWARD MUSLIM.

    You are very dumb person . Alif , Lam and Meem are Arabic alphabet why are you asking me to explain them to you so thats why I asked you the same thing what are the meaning of A , L and M in English

  420. Aha, a NEW Taqiyya muslim who does "not know" his own evil Quran.

    I did not say that I do not know the verse stop lying idiot . I said what are you trying to say about this verse

    LISTEN EVIL MUSLIM SLAVE !
    Quran 9:29 says: "
    Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
    DO YOU SEE TAQIYYA MUSLIM .

    Listen dummy. In order to understand this verse you have to read the event which preceded the revealation of this verse . In other words you have to know the historical context. The Prophet sent ambassadors to christian Arab tribe to a place which is today In Jordan once they got there they were slaughtered in cold blood .This act was an act of war so the prophet sent an army to punish them once they got there Byzantinians joined their Arab christian brother and killed many Muslims including prophet adopted son Zaid and prophet first cousin Jaafar . The Byzantinians should not have declared the war on Muslims because prophet did not attack them . In that period verse 9 29 was revealed to the prophet urging him to fight the Byzantinians

    Salat of Allah on the prophet would be his mercy and his satisfaction with his prophet

  421. "Oh …er AMIN-RAT I GAVE YOU MY REASONS TO INSULT YOU !!!
    And I like that very much. The fault is in your EVIL QURAN ! "

    Yet when we looked – there was nothing there. Other than morelying from you. hence you have from that day avoided to actually mention any source – but just carry on with claiming.

    - – - –

    "Look in your dictionary ZITOUNI…..OUCH !!! hahahaha!!! "

    And . . . . all Arabic dictionaries will say what I say. All references already given.

    - – -

    "I explained that clearly ! So …YOU HAVE TO BEAR THIS BURDEN !!! "

    Right . . . . however such reasoning do not work and are fallacious. Because are you also saying – that you will kill a Muslim person – on the same basis?

    Which court do you think will stand by you? Name any western country? Care to try?

  422. " ZITOUNI , the ARABIC soecialist does NOT agree with you ! "

    Sure . . . is this the same way – when you elevated me to er . . .scholarly level – when it suited you I wasn't.

    Zitouni – or whatever is no Arabic expert. Ask the person – s/he will agree.

    - – -

    "I'm having fun !!! Hahahahha ,sorry AminRAT !! "

    You always claim such things. . . . but you have to pass this loneliness somehow. I really do feel sorry for you.

    - – - –

    But – as it is kind of obvious. You have nothing more to say or add.

    1st you said – the dictionaries. Checked – they all disagreed with you.

    Then – you made out that these online dictionaries were the only genuine thing . That failed.

    Then the drama about Botros. That failed too – as I had ALREADY pointed out – this type of thing was your source.

    But this was a spectacular failure – as the article give no references.

  423. If it real is me paniking . . . then what is Your excuse for not finding an answer? And for swearing and insulting?

    - – - –

    "And now they come with all kinds of silly excuses etc. to get away with this disaster !!!! "

    Hardly – as this matter has been clearly dealt with. As all one has to do is check those dictionary references.

    - – -

    Isn't that what you said . . . . but then became exposed. Then 1st you tried to pass off some online dictionaries as authentic dictionaries.

    When that failed . . . . you made a big show of "introducing" Botros.

    Yet – I had even predicted this . . . and already said – the source of you material will be such thing.

    Then you had nothing left. . . .

    What is really embarrassing for you is . . . . Botros gives out not a SINGLE reference. Where he got his material from.

    I know where mine is from.

    - – -

    So does Botros have private lexicon – the one he invented?

    All the Classical Arabic dictionaries are there . . . . so which one? Name it. Else. . . .

  424. "I DID read ABOVE. And I AGREE with you COMPLETELY, as I said ABOVE.
    YOU HAVE PROVEN CLEARLY THAT in the VERB صلى in
    صلى الله عليه وسلم means "PRAY ONTO" ! "

    Sure . . . but this re-emphasizes what I've said. What is true doesn't really matter to you – whatever appears to agrees with your "view"

    If you had just bothered to have checked:

    عبدا إذا صلى
    Sahih International
    A servant when he prays?

    96:10

    Also in 75:31 87:15 and there are more where: –

    The verb is Sala – without Ala' – which means to pray.

  425. YOU ARE PANICKING HEY AminRAT !!! HAHAHAHA
    I like that very much. What a stupid backward morons these EVIL MUSLIM
    "INTELLECTUALS".
    And now they come with all kinds of silly excuses etc. to get away with this disaster !!!!
    Shame on you muslims !!! ;-)

  426. عبدا إذا صلى
    Sahih International
    A servant when he prays?

    96:10

    Also in 75:31 87:15 and there are more where: –

    The verb is Sala – without Ala' – which means to pray.

  427. ZITOUNI , the ARABIC soecialist does NOT agree with you !
    I'm having fun !!! Hahahahha ,sorry AminRAT !!
    BUT This is what you, "the best of creation" need. ! A BIG humilation ;-)

  428. "But as I said my point (and BOTROS) was exactly that it is PRAY ONTO. "

    Where is Botros saying it? And where are his sources?

    - – - –

    "What does the verb PRAY mean? The dictionaries say :
    1. To utter or address a prayer or prayers to God, a god, or another object of worship.
    2. To make a fervent request or entreaty. "

    Which mysterious dictionaries is that . . . . name them? We went through this . . . and look at this . . . . you have started to lie. Openly.

  429. "And there are many VERY GOOD non-muslim scholars of Arabic. "

    You mention a name . . . . But Botros isn't an Arabic scholar. He is an Arab – but that isn't the same thing.

    - – -

    And pray – which reference are given in that article? What is there to look at? And assess. . . .

    You made a whole nonsensical drama . . . . but you embarrassed yourself. When it was exposed.

    By the usage of actual material. And evidence.

    - – -

    Wasn't it you who said . . . look in dictionaries? Well I did – so why do they contradict you?

  430. "To Zitouni.
    Here is the article of Zakaria Botros again: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/01/the-ongoing-exp….
    Read it and think about it ! "

    - – -

    That the article – does not give a SINGLE reference . . . . so what is there to think about?

  431. My dear – it was you who – look in a dictionary . . . have you done that? What does it say do you think?

    Ah – how quickly did you drop this.

    As the alleged Botros article – which sources does it mention? Do point them out.

  432. AHA, the backward mohammedan AMINRAT IS BACK !!
    HEY ZITOUNI !!!! THIS IS THE MAN WHO INSISTS That "SALA" ALSO MEANS "BLESS".
    Look in your dictionary ZITOUNI…..OUCH !!! hahahaha!!!
    Oh …er AMIN-RAT I GAVE YOU MY REASONS TO INSULT YOU !!!
    And I like that very much. The fault is in your EVIL QURAN !
    I explained that clearly ! So …YOU HAVE TO BEAR THIS BURDEN !!!
    I have not the slightes respect for Islam nor for persons as far as they are muslim.

  433. "And The MORON ZITOUNI Destroyed Islam by proving that
    صلى الله عليه وسلم‎ ṣall Allāhu ʿalay-hi wa-sallam ", DOES NOT MEAN :"PEACE BE UPON HIM", but "(May) Allah PRAY on to him and (give him ) peace". "

    What the hell does this mean. . . . ?

    The thing is . . . . you got your ass whupped here . And now it is kind of difficult for you to take it.

    - – -

    Ha ha ha – you had this fallacious one sided and lying material. And you posted it up. And made bit of a drama.

    But it back-fired.

    What was it you said? Look in a dictionary?

    So . . . why is it that now – you refuse to listen to your own advice?

  434. Who are you referring to?

  435. Ach, You really are lonely. I had it right . . . a lonely white man. With nothing better to do.

    - – -

    You may insult me – that is all you do.

    - – -

    You attempted to make a big claim of this . . . however as per your instruction to look into a "dictionary" . . . well that was a SPECTACULAR failure for you.

    Ouch!

  436. What about this ,Amiriadh?
    Your ARAB muslim brother ZITOUNI ( islam scholar!) said :
    "From where did your scholar Botros LOL get the meaning that Sala means to bless ???? which Koranic expert say that Sala means to bless ???."
    Zitouni the ARABIC-specialist thinks you are talking nonsense !
    It seems to me that you TWO "best of creation" disagree BIG TIME !
    And I think that Zitouni is right !!! "Sala" with äla means only "PRAY ON TO ". ….YEP. :-)

  437. YEP, the TAQIYYA mohammedan Aminiradh is gone!
    And he certainly will not come back now the ARAB muslim-slave ZITOUNI diagrees with him COMPLETELY .
    THIS IS FUN BIG TIME FOR ME!!!
    AminRat is proven to be ALIAR BY HIS BROTHER ZITOUNI.
    And The MORON ZITOUNI Destroyed Islam by proving that
    صلى الله عليه وسلم‎ ṣall Allāhu ʿalay-hi wa-sallam ", DOES NOT MEAN :"PEACE BE UPON HIM", but "(May) Allah PRAY on to him and (give him ) peace".
    And this is devastating for Islam. Billion times each day (for centuries) muslims say that ALLAH PRAYS. DO YOU SEE YOUR BIG PROBLEM HERE , STUPID, BRAINWASHED MUSLIMS ???

  438. By the way, I doubt you are intellegent as you can't answer any questions without using the reasoning "because I think so."

  439. However you choose to divert the question does not take away from the fact that you are lying. Why won't you provide me a specific example? Oh wait you don't have one. Keep lying.

  440. Dear Zitouni. ;-)
    I DID read ABOVE. And I AGREE with you COMPLETELY, as I said ABOVE.
    YOU HAVE PROVEN CLEARLY THAT in the VERB صلى in
    صلى الله عليه وسلم means "PRAY ONTO" !
    But as I said my point (and BOTROS) was exactly that it is PRAY ONTO.
    And the obvious question then is : DOES ALLAH PRAY ???
    What does the verb PRAY mean? The dictionaries say :
    1. To utter or address a prayer or prayers to God, a god, or another object of worship.
    2. To make a fervent request or entreaty.
    So…HOW CAN YOUR GOD ALLAH PRAY (to mohammed)????? He himself is the ALMIGHTY GOD , IS IT NOT ??? So صلى الله عليه وسلم IS A LIE !!!
    THIS MUST BE A SHOCK FOR YOU AND MNY OTHER MUSLIMS !!
    Every billion times each day you muslims LIE and SIN by saying this after naming Mhammed.

  441. To the now again proven STUPID Arab Mohammedan Zitouni.
    You wrote: "which Koranic expert say that Sala means to bless ???."….."The verbe Sala never shows up alone in Arabic it always comes Sala Ala ( pray on ) or sala le ( pray to ) ".
    I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY ,ZITOUNI !! SO WE HAVE ESTABLISHED NOW THAT THE VERB "SALA" DOES NOT (!) MEAN "BLESS" AND IT DOES NEVER (!!!!) SHOW UP ALONE ….IT ALWAYS (!) MEANS (with ala or le) " PRAY ON" or "PRAY YO ". But THÁT IS EXACTLY MY POINT. HAHAHAHAHAAAAA !!!
    IN صلى الله عليه وسلم‎ ( ṣall Allāhu ʿalay-hi wa-sallam) IT SAYS THEREFORE :
    ALLAH PRAYS ON HIM (mohammed!!!!) AND PEACE ! ( or,in better English: "May Allah pray on him and grat him peace" and NOT , PBUH ="peace be upon him.".
    BUT ,ZITOUNI, HOW CAN ALLAH PRAY? TO HIMSELF ? TO MOHAMMED ?

  442. IT IS : ALIF LAM MEEM. It is PURE ARABIC, not English, BACKWARD MUSLIM. This is aya 2:1 and 3:1 in your evil Quran. There are more such crazy verses .These are (clear?) WORDS from your fake god ALLAH. This Allah who explained his ayat in DETAIL(do you want the verses which says so, learned ARAB scholar? :-) ) .
    SO ON YOU IS THE BURDEN TO EXPLAIN THIS CRAP !!! YOU are the scholar of Islam !!! Hhahahahha!
    Surah 2. The Cow
    "1. Alif Lam Meem.
    2. This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah."
    NOW,WHAT is the GUIDANCE ,without doubt, in "Alif Lam Meem", great ARAB SCHOLAR.??? It must be IN your EVIL QURAN , the clear words of "god" himself. COME ON…TELL US …. OH ,"Best of creation" .

  443. A STUPID ANSWER OF A BACKWARD MUSLIM MORON.( Sorry Zitouni, but it is the truth).
    The best you can do is BLOW UP YOURSELF NOW !!! Out of shame !!!!
    I like it to HUMILIATE you EVIL MUSLIM ZITOUNI and BELITTLE YOU, and DISGRACE YOU .(Like you should do to the defeated kafirs condorm Surah 9:29.) YOU ARE FUEL FOR HELLFIRE !! HAHAHAHA !! YOU ARE THE MOST VILE OF CREATURES .
    Man I have fun , with this MUSLIM-CLOWN.
    Are you angry now,Zitouni. Would you like to kill me or some random KAFIR ? I THINK SO !! :-) BYE !!

  444. OH…er… "BEST OF CREATIONN GREAT" , islam scholar Zitouni. I think you know Ibn Kathir . Do you see what words he uses for the DHIMMIES: WILLING SUBMISSION,DEFEAT, SUBSERVIENCE ,FEEL SUBDUED,,DISGRACED,HUMILIATED,BELITTLED,NOT HONOR,NOT ELEVATE , MISERABLE,DISGRACED.
    Are you a better scholar then IBN KATHER ? SAY IT !! I CHALLENGE YOU.

  445. Aha, a NEW Taqiyya muslim who does "not know" his own evil Quran.
    LISTEN EVIL MUSLIM SLAVE !
    Quran 9:29 says: "
    Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
    DO YOU SEE TAQIYYA MUSLIM . And this is a quote taken from (the famous) Ibn Kathir's tafsir on surah 9:29 —
    "Allah said, (until they pay the Jizyah), if they do not choose to embrace Islam, (with willing submission), in defeat and subservience, (and feel themselves subdued.)disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimmah or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced and humiliated."

  446. Mr darkfire316, are you a man or not? Where are your balls? A man with balls or should I say, a gentleman, won't threaten a kind, beautiful and intelligentChristian lady like what you did! Quit stalking me, Mr creepy stalker. ;)

  447. WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY :
    ALL THE DICTIONARIES SAY THE WORD صلى IS COMPLTELY AND ALWAYS SYNONYMOUS TO "BLESS ", EVIL MUSLIM ?
    Because you are doing TAQIYYA ! YEP……AGAIN.
    The word means PRAY !!! You have an other word (Baraka/Barik) for BLESS in Arabic.
    OUT OF SHAME EARLY MUSLIMS MADE IN "Sallalahu Alayi wa Sallam" INTO BLESS.
    OUT OF SHAME !!!! SHAME ON UOU MUSLIM LIARS !

  448. Dear Agracean, give me a valid example or otherwise I'm going to call you out on lying which you are doing.

  449. 3) With humiliating you I do what your EVIL fake god orders you to do to us ( Quran 9:29). So you taste "your own medicin " here. Do you like it ? Hahahaha!

    You are for sure mental disturbed person LOL . All what you get is insult you have not said anything which can be considered interesting argument and any time you mention something about koran you have it understood it backward because you have never read koran in your life . I do not know what are you trying to say about verse 9 29 ????? again you have read in some anti Islamic website talking about this verse and you think they are scholars in Islam LOL and you took their stupid interpretation as fact .

  450. But what about the average mind of the average Muslim? It seems that hundreds of millions of Muslims are deficient in knowledge and understanding of Islam.

    Koranic experts not disagree on pillars of Islam meaning things which are very crucial and fundamental in Islam . My salvation got nothing to do with ttheir disagrement. For example there are scholars who believe that the sacrifice child of Abraham was Ishmael while tiny minority of scholars believe it was Ishaq . who cares what was name of the boy because this to my salvation is irelevant. You cannot find this in christianity because we got scholars who disagree on Jesus resurection which is the heart of christianity

  451. To the EVIL, brainwashed and backward MOHAMMEDAN ,ZITOUNI.
    1) I'm glad you are back. A new brainless muslim toy to play with ! hahaha.
    2) I'm not obsessed with insult. I do like your EVIL Allah does in your EVIL Quran.
    He calls us "disbelievers", "fuel for hell fire", "worst of animals", "swines"and "monkeys" and sends us to hell many times , After he has created us this way HIMSELF. THAT IS MALICIOUS.
    3) With humiliating you I do what your EVIL fake god orders you to do to us ( Quran 9:29). So you taste "your own medicin " here. Do you like it ? Hahahaha!
    4) I call you STUPID, BACKWARD,EVIL and BRAINWASHED because you ARE ! These are not even insults but the (proven) TRUTH !
    5) I like to humiliate you (conform Q.9:29 etc.) because you call yourself "the best of creation" (NAZI'S) . This is clearly not true !
    6) I amuse myself with you and your EVIL CULT.

  452. Mr darkfire316, am I lying when I'm stating the fact that you're stalking me like a creepy stalker? Am I lying when I said that I love you because of the fact that you're a human being and that Jesus loves you? Am I lying when I said that you're the proof? For goodness sake, will you kindly please behave like a man with balls?

  453. i wonder if Jesus would like the fact that you're lying. All you have to do is prove otherwise.

  454. Mr darkfire316, thanks for stalking me every minute and every second of the day and night. It's really a great pleasure to know that you're so loyal and faithful than my sweet poodle. Last but not least, Jesus loves you and I and my poodle loves a creepy stalker like you too. Cheers. :)

  455. Still waiting for proof. Why do you give me Muslim answers like "Because I said so." Can't you provide me with specifics? Or are you going to keep deflecting by calling me something you have yet to prove? Funny how you keep responding if I'm such a stalker. It's sad that you blame your neediness on Christianity.

  456. Mr darkfire316, how many times must I tell you that you're the proof? Admit it and quit stalking me for once.

  457. "The Arabic word Mubin in koran does not mean easy in Arabic . It means clear and the word clear is not synonym of the word easy . Calculus books are clear to me this does not me 7 year old kid will find them easy to understand"

    This point of yours at first seems a good point. Like the Western Law books, they are very clear, but they are not easy to study, and be remembered. That is why we have big law-studies and lawyers.

    But what about the average mind of the average Muslim? It seems that hundreds of millions of Muslims are deficient in knowledge and understanding of Islam. In need of intermediate, explaining clerics. and these clerics seem to be highly divided. Counterjihadists often take their clues and interpretations from real islamic clerics. And counterjihadists can present an endless chain of clerics and followers who understand Islam, on certain tenets, issues, exactly the same as counterjihadists do. This ongoing division and confusion among Muslims is a much bigger problem for Muslims than the counter-jihadists are. The counterjihadists only painfully point out the failures of Islam and/ or the Muslims.

    Second: What about this problem with immutability, because of the prohibition of altering, discarding or augmenting "Divine" words. In Western Law books altering, discarding and augmenting IS allowed and done in order to keep the meaning clear. To dissolve controversy and to prevent misunderstanding. To prevent the guiding texts becoming obsolete, incomplete, unclear, ambiguous.

    But because of immutability for 1400 years, Islam is now RIFE with controversy and misunderstanding. Because the Islamic holy texts by now have become very obsolete, incomplete, unclear and ambiguous.

    The counterjihadists only REPORT on that. And protesting only against the Messengers of this this big problem among Muslims will not solve it. It will only become worse as long as judgement day is not coming.

  458. To the IGNORANT (of course) MUSLIM ZITOUNI
    It would be very funny , if you were right. Because you say that Mohammed was very uncertain about his "revelations". Why else did he need advise of other people.
    You are RIDICULOUS ,ZITOUNI ! YOU ARE A CLOWN !! PFFFFFFT , MOHAMMED,A GREAT PROPHET INDEED ! HAHAHAHAHA !!!!
    NEXT ! LOL

    I never said that prophet was very uncertain about his revealation .What I said that En in Arabic does not work as If .in English . The Arabic word that function like if in English is the word Eda . There is big difference in Arabic between the word En and Eda .

    En you are in doubt would be in English as suppose or assume or in case

    Eda you are in doubt would be in English if you are in doubt

    this is the verse that will shut your mouth

    Say, [O Muhammad], "If the Most Merciful had a son, then I would be the first of [his] worshippers." ( 43 – 81 )

    The Arabic word used for if in that verse is En and not Eda . Are you going to say that Allah was uncertain that he has no son ? uhmm tell me ignorant dummy . What God is saying by using En is suppose or assume or in case and as you know in english you cannot use the condictional if when you try to assume or suppose something . so now dummy go back and reread the verse which you sent me . fuck stupid ignorant

  459. What do I care what your evil Koran says about Botros, or what a brainwashed muslim slave like you says.
    I see that this Botros tells the truth and you don't !! You only come with ad hominems and other (evil) logical fallacies.

    Sure you do care what koran says otherwise why are you quoting to me verses from koran

  460. The LOGIC of the muslim slave Ziouni.
    "AS FAR AS I KNOW there is no kafir in the whole world who can be called scholar of Islam all scholars of Islam are Muslims THIS IS A FACT ". HAHAHAHA!
    You must be a real muslim "scholar' yourself ARAB "MASTER" Zitouni.
    Perhaps YOU know , being a "scholar" and all, what Alif,Lam, Meem etc. means.
    Your may of course need some help of some other ACADEMIC ARAB ! BWAHAAA!

    You may explain to me what is A , L and M means in English

  461. Botros is clown….. "
    No backward EVIL Arab muslim, YOU ARE THE CLOWN HERE .
    THAT WHY I HAVE TO LAUGH ALL THE TIME WHEN YOU COME WITH YOUR CRAP !!! BWAAAAAHHHHAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!
    How come Arabs muslims are always STUPID ? Because of INBRED I think !
    Tell me ,SLAVE, are father and mother cousins???
    Readers take note of the answer he will give!!!

    After my lessons to you in Arabic language I have shown that the stupid is you LOL

  462. And the muslims saw it and added a "NEW " meaning of the word "PRAY " to the arabic language . OUT OF SHAME. Only for this case , because they saw that Allah could not PRAY(SHIRK)! .So they make the word in THIS CASE ONLY (again) mean BLESS , although there existed ((exists) an Arbic word with meaning BLESS.
    THAT'S ALL …NO "SCHOLAR" NEEDED . The TRUTH is often VERY SIMPLE !!
    Readers take note of the evil and fanatic reaction that will surely come of this EVIL muslim LIAR. IT will not CHANGE THE FACTS !!! HAHAHAHAHAHA ( I'm having FUN !)

    Read above dumb ignorant

  463. Botros’ pertinent question: If Sala means to “bless,” why then does the recitation go on to use the proper Arabic word for “bless” (Baraka/Barik) in the same exact context? If both mean “bless,” why the redundancy?
    YEP, WHY THIS REDUDANCY , HEY "SCHOLAR, WHY??

    From where did your scholar Botros LOL get the meaning that Sala means to bless ???? which Koranic expert say that Sala means to bless ???. What this liar is doing is defining word by himself then putting them on Muslims mouth as if this is how great Muslim scholar understood the word Sala . I have already explain to you that this liar and ignorant did not finish the verb he cut it in half to deceive Arabic ignorant people like you . It says Sala ALA he dropped out the word ALA to make fun of you LOL . The verbe Sala never shows up alone in Arabic it always comes Sala Ala ( pray on ) or sala le ( pray to ) –

    Verb Sala Ala (Pray on ) used for funeral or for prophet
    Verb Sala le ( Pray to ) used to worship Allah

    This show that your scholar is ignorant of Arabic language the language of koran he does not even know the differnce between Sala ala and sala le . This like somebody who did not know difference between go in and go out in English and you call him real scholar LOL

  464. To the brainwashed and backward Muslim Zitouni.

    why are you obssessed with insult ? you must be sick person

    [ O Muhammad ] is between brackets in the translation, it is not in the original Arabic quran. It is done out of shame( why else?… to make it more palatable ) ;

    If English language is handicaped language is not our fault . In English the relative proun YOU is good for singular and plural this is not true in Arabic thats why the translators have to put Muhamed in bracket Elayka which was translated as to you is for singluar Masculin . If God was adressing Muslims in that verse as you falsely claimed he would have used Elaykom (to you plural Masc ) instead

    this is even a big sin against your evil fake god Allah and a LIE .And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.

    No ignorant if you put the word in bracket you have already admitted that this is your word and not part of koran . You must really dumb kafir LOl

    Quran 6:115 says: " And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
    The Quran is for all mankind , you must know that , you MORON, otherwise you are clearly the IGNORANT.

    Arabs Muslims say koran is kalamu allah which means in English speech of God and we do not say in Arabic koran is kalimato Allah which means in English words of God .Christians who use that terminology when they say the bible is the word of God and you think Muslim uses the same terminolgy when it comes to Koran . This is how Arabic ignorant people like you understand the verses that have in it kalimato Allah ( words of God ) . Kalimato Allah according to experts of koran are Allah plans and decisions and has nothing to do with his speech .

    By the way Botros is one of the PEOPLE OF THE BOOK , according to your evil fake prophet Mohammed. And indeed Mohammed did ask these people about their scripture ! Because he himself had NO CLOU ! HAHAHA !!

    Botros is kafir according to Koran and no where it says in koran prophet asked those people , show me that in koran . Koran did not say ask any person among people who read the book because Rabbi Abdul allah ibn salam was among those who used to read the book and he converted to Islam. In order for you have point there should have been any body among people of the book to accept Muhamed as prophet –

  465. OH …er … backward, stupid ARAB muslim Zitouni.
    YOU (and all other muslims) come always with thesame silly excuse :
    "The Arabic was wronglly translated ", when there are problems with your EVIL Quran.
    ADVISE: Make A GOOD translation YOURSELF of the Quran in English and other languages ! ONCE AND FOR ALL !!! hahahahaha
    You muslims always say to us unbelievers : YOU must read the Quran yourself. Biut when we do ….the Arabic is suddenly wrongly translated !
    CRAP!!! of course . Arabic is just a language as all other languages. If it can not be translated then the quran was certainly NOT meant for ALL MANKIND, but ONLY for the backward ARABS. Well I must say…this makes sense ! KEEP THIS SH!T TO YOURSELF. AND KILL EACH OTHER AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE !!

  466. "So IN CASE you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, THEN ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you."
    WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE with "IF " , ARAB SLAVE ZIYOUNI ? NOTHING !!
    AND Why does ALLAH say this to MUHAMMAD (according yo you).?
    ALLAH MUST have known (he is alknowing, is he not?) that Mohammed would doubt in the future . And therefore Allah added : "…so never be among the doubters".
    So your "SCHOLARLY"explanation makes it all still more looking bad for ISLAM . :-)

  467. ALL CRAP !!! You try to work yourself out ,ZITOUNI . But it makes you look very ugly and silly! Or rather the ÏSLAMIC SCHOLARS who told you this LIE.
    I know you will be very angry, but I don't care a bit.
    It is very simple: Allah (= Mohammed) made a STUPID mistake. (because he was a narcissistic cretin).
    And the muslims saw it and added a "NEW " meaning of the word "PRAY " to the arabic language . OUT OF SHAME. Only for this case , because they saw that Allah could not PRAY(SHIRK)! .So they make the word in THIS CASE ONLY (again) mean BLESS , although there existed ((exists) an Arbic word with meaning BLESS.
    THAT'S ALL …NO "SCHOLAR" NEEDED . The TRUTH is often VERY SIMPLE !!
    Readers take note of the evil and fanatic reaction that will surely come of this EVIL muslim LIAR. IT will not CHANGE THE FACTS !!! HAHAHAHAHAHA ( I'm having FUN !)

  468. "Botros is clown….. "
    No backward EVIL Arab muslim, YOU ARE THE CLOWN HERE .
    THAT WHY I HAVE TO LAUGH ALL THE TIME WHEN YOU COME WITH YOUR CRAP !!! BWAAAAAHHHHAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!
    How come Arabs muslims are always STUPID ? Because of INBRED I think !
    Tell me ,SLAVE, are father and mother cousins???
    Readers take note of the answer he will give!!! :-)

  469. Still waiting for proof.

  470. To THE IGNORANT ARAB (of course) ZITOUNI, the muslim SLAVE.
    This Botros gives a nice proof :
    More telling is when Botros read aloud one of the standard recitations Muslims say at specific events from Al-Majmu’ Al-Nawwawi, vol.8, p.202: “Allah Sala on Muhammad and his family, as you did with Ibrahim and his family." After a few more recitations, the prayer goes back and says, "Allah bless Muhammad and his family, as you did with Ibrahim and his family…”
    Botros’ pertinent question: If Sala means to “bless,” why then does the recitation go on to use the proper Arabic word for “bless” (Baraka/Barik) in the same exact context? If both mean “bless,” why the redundancy?
    YEP, WHY THIS REDUDANCY , HEY "SCHOLAR, WHY??

  471. "As for Botros Koran calls him kafir LOL "
    ————
    What do I care what your evil Koran says about Botros, or what a brainwashed muslim slave like you says.
    I see that this Botros tells the truth and you don't !! You only come with ad hominems and other (evil) logical fallacies.

  472. The LOGIC of the muslim slave Ziouni.
    "AS FAR AS I KNOW there is no kafir in the whole world who can be called scholar of Islam all scholars of Islam are Muslims THIS IS A FACT ". HAHAHAHA!
    You must be a real muslim "scholar' yourself ARAB "MASTER" Zitouni. ;-)
    Perhaps YOU know , being a "scholar" and all, what Alif,Lam, Meem etc. means.
    Your may of course need some help of some other ACADEMIC ARAB ! BWAHAAA!

  473. THERE ARE NO ISLAMIC SCHOLARS BECAUSE ISLAM IS NOT A SCIENCE ! STUPID,BACKWARD CRETIN. YOU ARE BEING FOOLED BY THESE BASTARDS. Are there Zen-scholars or Katholicism-scholars?, NO !!
    Islam is A BELIEF ! And a thing where you ONLY believe in can NOT be studied scientifically . Then it would be no BELIEF anymore.
    All your boasting about these socalled muslim scholars is a logical FALLACY (appeal to authority ) . What do these evil men DECEIVERS know more then other intelligent people? DO YOU HAVE TO BE AN ARAB ISLAM "SCHOLAR" to be a muslim ? THEN THERE ARE almost NO MUSLIMS at all. And "academic establishement"does NOT impress me a bit.

  474. To the IGNORANT (of course) MUSLIM ZITOUNI
    It would be very funny , if you were right. Because you say that Mohammed was very uncertain about his "revelations". Why else did he need advise of other people.
    You are RIDICULOUS ,ZITOUNI ! YOU ARE A CLOWN !! PFFFFFFT , MOHAMMED,A GREAT PROPHET INDEED ! HAHAHAHAHA !!!!
    NEXT ! LOL

  475. To the brainwashed and backward Muslim Zitouni.
    [ O Muhammad ] is between brackets in the translation, it is not in the original Arabic quran. It is done out of shame( why else?… to make it more palatable ) ;this is even a big sin against your evil fake god Allah and a LIE .And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.
    Quran 6:115 says: " And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
    The Quran is for all mankind , you must know that , you MORON, otherwise you are clearly the IGNORANT.
    By the way Botros is one of the PEOPLE OF THE BOOK , according to your evil fake prophet Mohammed. And indeed Mohammed did ask these people about their scripture ! Because he himself had NO CLOU ! HAHAHA !!

  476. Mr darkfire316, I'm amazed that you know my name. Isn't this a proof that you are a creepy stalker, stalking me day and night without fail and yet, you simply can't eat the humble pie and admit that you are one. I'm really curious who in the world are you? :)

  477. Hmmm let's see. You obviously can't name one instance of me stalking you and point to a one time exchange as proof and deny specific example. I guess that makes you a liar and a stalker Grace. I wonder what Jesus would think of that. Seriously is this the best you can do? If you want to play this game, I'll just keep repeating myself.

  478. Mr illiterate darkfire316, how many times must I be very specific to you, huh? You're the proof and you're stalking me like a creepy stalker.

  479. Once again you don't give any specific examples. If you can't prove it, then you're obviously lying. Once again be specific.

  480. Mr darkfire316, how many times must repeat here that you are the proof? The problem is that you don't admit it and now, you accused me of lying. Quit stalking me for once, Mr creepy stalker!

  481. 2) Surah 10:94 says: "So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters." You muslims MUST follow Mohammed , therefore you must ask people like Zakaria Botros ,whether you like it or not. HAHAHAHAHA !!

    God in this verse addresses his prophet and not the Muslims because ignorant you did not see the phrase which says ( which we revealed to you ) the relative proum YOU refer to Muhamed – As for Botros Koran calls him kafir LOL

  482. There ARE no Islamic Muslim scholars. There are only muslims who CALL themselves scholars.

    To be called scholar of anything you have to be certified by academic establishement . Scholars of Islam are called scholars because they went through all the requirements that university requires they did not call themselves scholars or their followers call them scholars like you did concerning Botros . You thought I am stupid I will buy that lie because I know the man better that you do .

    Yes there is no such thing as Kafirs and scholars of Islam . If you think
    I am wrong then name me just one . But you have also to post his resume here to see it . You cannot say he is scholar and believe me .

    There is no need for scholars of islam.

    Who are you to say that no need for scholars of Ilslam

    Only scholars of Arabic have some use. And there are many VERY GOOD non-muslim scholars of Arabic.

    Your argument was about the word Salat which is religious term and this required an expert in Arabic as well as expert in Islamic theology to explain it . Arabic alone is not enough for that .

    THERE IS NO NEED FOR SCHOLARS of Islam:
    read above

    1) The Quran is easy to understand and explained in detail .(ACCORDING TO ALLAH HIMSELF IN THE QURAN ).

    The Arabic word Mubin in koran does not mean easy in Arabic . It means clear and the word clear is not synonym of the word easy . Calculus books are clear to me this does not me 7 year old kid will find them easy to understand

    2) Surah 10:94 says: "So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters." You muslims MUST follow Mohammed , therefore you must ask people like Zakaria Botros ,whether you like it or not. HAHAHAHAHA !!

    The Arabic word En which was wronglly translated as if simply means in case you are , or suppose you are . Prophet never asked any of those people what he said that I will never doubt . Plus the verse is talking about honest people of the book such as chief Rabi of Medina who converted to Islam after he met Muhamed

    3) Because Your EVIL Quran IS ONE BIG PILE OF NONSENSE AND LIES !!

    Oponions about koran from ignorant people like you does not count . I have 100 of opinions about religion of Botros from top world renown biblical scholars whom Botros is just pussy cat which break christianity and bible into pieces. You cannot find even one single Muslim scholar on the whole world to back up your negative comments about koran . You were using self admitted ignorant about Islam such as Botros not knowning that he has said many times in Arabic of course in videos that he is not scholar of Islam and held no degree in Islamic theolgy LOL

  483. Thank you for admitting this ,EVIL TAQIYYA MULIM . AT LAST.
    Why di you not say this from the beginning? Why ?
    And YOUR context is exactly the LAST LIE !
    The muslim discovered this BIG mistake really early . Now what to do? Allah does not pray to mere creatures. That would be SHIRK !!
    Oh, I know. WE USE TAQIYYA AND KITMAN. We say that it means in this CONTEXT "BLESS ". Yep ,that is the solution. The only problem is that everytime an Arabic speaking person will ask: : DOES ALLAH PRAY !! O.K. but the gullible muslims will buy it !!
    And now , because it is used as "BLESS" in this ..er "CONTEXT "it is in dictionaries.
    BUT IT IS STILL ONE BIG FAT MUSLIM LIE …..AGAIN.

  484. NOBODY HERE BELIEVES YOU AMINRAT !!
    YOU ARE A TAQIYYA MUSLIM. SO ALL YOU DO IS TELLIG LIES.
    THE READERS KNOW THIS TRICK NOW !
    AND THEY DON'T BUY YOUR EVIL CRAP NO MORE .
    OFF YOU GO, LOSER !

  485. This is no ranting AMINRAT ! It is only the truth: You are an evil cretin !
    And your EVIL QURAN AND SUNNA Are filled with HATE towards yhe KAFIR ( as you so peaceful call the non-muslims).
    This is exactly what I want to show you , by doing the same to you !
    As I said earlyer I hate ISLAM (precisely because it is MALICIOUS) to my bones And muslims as far as they believe in this EVIL CULT. I love the human beings the can become after leaving their CULT behind.
    And , remember retarded muslim ….YOU ARE THE FAILURE HERE.
    NEXT !!! LOL ( this is soooo funny !!)

  486. CALM down muslim slave….SILENCE !!!
    We know you are the MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE ( hmmmm) . You must be.You are the "BEST OF CREATION ". We call this narcisistic ( you look very much like your evil fake prophet Mohammed).
    You said here: "Intelligent people are able to make educated guesses".
    And your guess is wrong ,so….. (Amin takes a long time!) … indeed you ARE NOT INTELLIGENT ART ALL. You thought you were ! You live in a dilusion ,also like your crazy prophet. Hey….Amin…listen (ssshht) perhaps you ARE THE PROPHET ! HAHAHA !!
    NEXT !!!!! LOL LOL ( these are words I boroughed from your inbred mulim BTOTHERS Ali(en) and Empty Head { } ).

  487. To the EVIL TAQIYYA MUSLIM AMINRAT.
    You said: "I believe you are a White Man. "
    ——————————-
    Youa lso believe in JINNS ( haha), that mountains, rocks and trees can talk ( HIHIHI) and that Mohammed flew on a donkey like creature to the SEVEN ( !!) heavens.
    Man, shut up with you silly ,BACKWARD CRAP !!!
    NEXT !!!! LOL

  488. The mouse ,called Ali(en) that roared !! Hahahahaha !
    NEXT !!!! LOL

  489. STUPID MAN YOU ARE TRYING TO GET AWAY !!!
    EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT YOU MUSLIMS BRAINWASH YOURSELF year in year out , 5 times each day , banging your silly heads against the floor saying backward things like : ALIF LAM MEEM… By the star as it went down…and other CRAP.
    Teaching kids to memorize the evil Quran. WHY this senseless and useless nonsense? THÁT IS BRAINWASHING !!!

  490. Muslims are ALWAYS divided ,stupid backward muslim.
    Your EVIL prophet already said it : 73 sects and only one is TRUE !!"
    Which one is it ? Sunni? Shia? Amahdiah ? …..etc.
    NO ONE OF COURSE but nevertheless the kill eachother constantly !

  491. YEP , "burp" thay is the most intelligent thing you said here till now ! hahahahahaha!
    NEXT !!!!! LOL

  492. WE KNOW ALREADY HOW INTENSE EVIL YOU ARE , backward muslim
    AMINRAT.
    NOW GO and blow yourself up !!! Everybody happy !!! Yeahhhh!!
    NEXT !!!!! LOL.

  493. THAT WAS MY "TAQIYYA" ,IMBECILE !
    To let you muslims feel how evil that principle is .
    BUT YOU STILL DON'T GET IT ,BRAINWASHED ,BACKWARD MUSLIM.

  494. There ARE no Islamic Muslim scholars. There are only muslims who CALL themselves scholars. There is no need for scholars of islam. Only scholars of Arabic have some use. And there are many VERY GOOD non-muslim scholars of Arabic.
    THERE IS NO NEED FOR SCHOLARS of Islam:
    1) The Quran is easy to understand and explained in detail .(ACCORDING TO ALLAH HIMSELF IN THE QURAN ).
    2) Surah 10:94 says: "So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters." You muslims MUST follow Mohammed , therefore you must ask people like Zakaria Botros ,whether you like it or not. HAHAHAHAHA !!
    3) Because Your EVIL Quran IS ONE BIG PILE OF NONSENSE AND LIES !!

  495. To EMPTY HEAD { } .
    I say FUKC YOU, to you evil backward and brainwashed muslim!

  496. YOUR EVIL QURAN (and the sunna) IS FULL OF HATE TOWARDS THE DISBELIEVER (The kafir as you so "peacefulcall it). Don't talk to us about HATE ! YOU EVIL MUSLIMS ARE THE EXPERTS IN HATING. You follow your evil Insane Camel Mohammed closely !
    NEXT !! (I like that :-) ) LOL

  497. SAYING: "I WON ! ….."Even when it is obviously NOT TRUE,
    THÁT IS CHILDISH ,EVIL BRAINDEAD MUSLIM AMINRAT!
    NEXT !!! LOL.

  498. YOU ADHA…..ME TARZAN…..YOU TERORIS !!
    NEXT !!!!! LOL.

  499. Muslims never get bored, you need brains to get bored.
    Muslims bored themselves braindead, by 5 times each day banging their heads against the floor saying stupif things like: : Alif Lam Meem…By the star when it goes down…etc.etc. HAHAHAHAAAAAA !!!!
    NEXT !!!! LOL

  500. I'm still waiting for proof. Once again how many times have I addresssed you before this exchange? Do you have any proof of your assertions or are you just going to lie?

  501. You are the proof.

  502. You're a stalker. Period.

  503. To Ali(en) the brainwashed EVIL muslim.
    You said: "The meaning is thus obvious that when the enemies' attempts to destroy Mohammad failed, they began to fear him as he grew in strength in Arabia and gained more followers. "
    Now we READ Allah (casting terror=ru'b or ruúb , surah 3:151) in stead of Mohammed:
    "The meaning is thus obvious that when the enemies' attempts to destroy ALLAH failed, they began to fear HIM. "
    "Enemies" can not destroy an almighty god… you stupid bastard. SO THIS "OBVIOUS MEANING" OF YOURS IS COMPLETELY NONSENSE !!
    But again: I DON'T think you will ever see the mistake you made.
    NEXT !!!!!! LOL.

  504. Once again be specific. How is an exchange stalking? Can you name one thing I said indicative of stalking?

  505. You wrote:
    "For the people like u it's very easy to tell me to leave Islam."

    I think it is fair that in YOUR life that will be, I hope, 100 years, with children, that you at least got asked from two sides to join; not just from only one side; the Muslims, all around you, 99 % of the time influencing you.

    Humans should be asked by 2 or more sides to join, regarding religion, lifestyle, not just one. They should be interested in 2 or more possible lifestyles, in their long lives, not just one.

    I say you owe it to mankind to look at the diverse possibilities, not just to look at one possibility of religion/ lifestyle, for both you and the children you will raise.

  506. Atheists, and I, do NOT know how the universe began.

    Self Awareness of humans? Well we "Darwinists" think # 40.000 years ago we humans started to speak a primitive language and that helped us to be aware. # 5.000 years ago we humans developed primitive script. # 3000 years ago the alphabet. And only then, in the axial age, according to historians, at # 500 BC a monotheistic doctrine was written in a holy book, the Talmud of the Jews.

    From there Christianity and then Islam evolved. But notice that we "Darwinists" think that mankind is already a 100.000 years old, if not more.

  507. NO ANSWER OF THE EVIL BRAINWSHED MUSLIM ALI( en)., on this one.
    DON't try to run stupid bastard.
    NEXT !!!!! LOL

  508. The EVIL moron Ali(en) wrote:
    "However, with the likes of you in front, we Muslims got no worries in the world, so all I will say to you at this stage is, keep it up retard, make it easy for us. "
    —————– "KEEP IT UP "??? This is confusing ! Because you said many times before that the game was over !!!
    You look exactly as your Insane Camel (Insan Al Kamil) Mohammed again. You don't know what you are doing or did anymore. I think you are dizzy ! Dilusional even.

  509. TO the EVIL BRAINWASHED MORONIC MUSLIM ALI(EN):
    THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THIS SITE ! WHAAAAHAHAHAAA!!!
    You wrote: "I smell desperation on you again Julian the Kuf. "
    ——————————————–
    I am not desperate,ALIEN. Why should I be???. I'm still playing with you and havng great fun. Like a cat playing with a half -dead(zombie) mouse…REMEMBER ?
    You project your own desperation on me. You are dilusional just as your crazy fake prophet Mohammed.
    You live in ONE BIG LIE….ISLAM. Deep in your heart you know this of course . You did see the many, many proofs TOO. But you ARE AFRAID. AFRAID OF SATAN,HELLFIRE,ALLAH,MOHAMMED,JINNS, THE PUNISHMENT OF THE FRAVE (hahaha)…etc.etc. ALL THESE primitive 7th century NONSENSE!!
    I,however, HAVE THE TRUTH !! And I AM NOT AFRAID !! NEXT!

  510. Hahahaha! I like that one…Matchmaker .
    But only after Ali(en) has blown up himself LOL.
    He will look like AHMED THE DEAD TERRORIST. THÁT IS INDEED MY FAVOURITE PUPPET ! Hilarious !!
    SILENCE !!!! I KILL YOU !! HAHAHA.
    Look at this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go
    This is exactly how I think about staunch Islamists like Ali(en LOL

  511. To the deeply brainwashed cretin Alien.
    Surah 8:17say: " You killed them not, but Allah killed them. And you (Muhammad ) threw not when you did throw but Allah threw, that He might test the believers by a fair trial from Him. Verily, Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower."
    DO YOU SEE IT ,SILLY KID :….but ALAH KILLED THEM !! Combine this with Surah 3:151 "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve." AND IT IS COMPLETELY CLEAR: ALLAH (the figment of your fake prophet) IS A TERRORIST like Mohammed himself.

  512. No answer ,OF COURSE, on this one from MARIA-THING-MUSLIMAH.
    Hello muslimah…????

  513. You don't think with an open mind stupid girl.
    You can and may not even think with an open mind according to your EVIL Quran.
    Proof: SURAH 5:101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft- forgiving, Most Forbearing.
    5:102 Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.
    I call this SATANIC VERSES (too).
    YEAH…."QUESTION Everything "…MY A$S !!

  514. The logic of a brainwashed MORON:
    "I believe Allah do exist, therefore, He have gave me belief of His existence, I have no doubts now (thank you Allah)."
    This means, muslim Maria-thing : YOU do not KNOW that Allah exist , believing is NOT the same as knowing…Do you understand this SIMPLE fact ,muslimah? So how can a thing were you BELIEVE in give you BELIEF. This is completely crazy!!
    You are a muslima (deficient clearly of intelligence according to you fake prophet Mohammed), so just two questions for yo to answer:
    1) How do you know that JINNS exist?
    2) How do you know that Mohammed saw and spoke to an angel (Gabriel)?

  515. HEY ,crazy BRAINWASHED muslim Alien.
    YOU STILL DID NOT REPLY YO MY LOGICAL (!) COMMENT HERE !! WHY NOT??? ……..HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
    NEXT !!!! LOL

  516. As long as Islam exists THERE WILL AND CAN NOT BE PEACE ON EARTH, according to the Qyran itself !!!

  517. YOU HAVE NO IDENTITY BACKWARD MUSLIM.
    YOU ARE A SLAVE,according to yourself.So how can you talk about your identity !!! HAHAHA
    NEXT !!! LOL

  518. Hello stupid braiwashed and EVIL MUSLIM ALIEN.
    You wrote: "If Mohammed was a terrorist for instilling terror/fear/fright into the hearts of Kufs like you Julian the Kuf, then according to your retarded logic, God is also a terrorist.
    —————————-
    3:151 "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve."
    You nearly got it backward ,BRAINWASHED MUSLIM.
    There is one mistake on your side 'THIS WAS SAID BY ALLAH…NOT A (the?) REAL GOD.Your ALLAH is INDEED a terrorist conform the definition of terrorism.
    YOU HAVE PROVED RIGHT NOW AGAIN THAT YOUR EVIL FAKE GOD ALLAH IS A FIGMENT OF YOUR EVIL BACKWARD FAKE PROPHET MOHAMMED THE TERRORIST. !
    A REAL ALMIGHTY GOD DOES NOT NEED SUCH KIND OF EVIL MAFIOSO PRACTICES!!
    I cannot make it more clear and easy . Retards like you will never understand. Your starting point is always : The Quran is true .
    You dare and can not think freely about it.
    YOU ARE BRAINWASHED !!!!
    NEXT !! LOL

  519. @Demsci:

    I believe Allah do exist, therefore, He have gave me belief of His existence, I have no doubts now (thank you Allah), Now I wanna somewhat more practicing, wanna believe, wanna true to my faith, Allah is increasing my believe, I often think this verse is suitable for me now –> Quran–> "He it is Who sent down As-Sakinah (calmness and tranquillity) into the hearts of the believers, that they may grow more in Faith along with their (present) Faith. And to Allâh belong the hosts of the heavens and the earth, and Allâh is Ever All-Knower, All-Wise. (Al-Fatah : 4)"
    For the people like u it's very easy to tell me to leave Islam but I cannot, Dont wanna either.

    As u r an Atheist so just two questions for u, make answers:
    What do you think that how the universe began?
    What do you think that how the Homo sapiens got self awareness?

  520. Yes, GOD cannot be disproven, but it is another matter for Islam. For much of what it claims, asserts there are many much more logical explanations that contradict it.

    And if you restrict yourself to Islam, you also restrict yourself to marrying a Muslim and not other wonderful men.

    And look at the future in the 21st century; http://www.futuretimeline.net/

    Look what is coming, in YOUR life, of maybe a 100 years!

    Every 2 years computers seem te double both their capacity and intelligence and it is expected by some that humans will evolve into transhumans, combined humans-computers. This is called THE SINGULARITY.

    are you going to shut yourself out of these developments because of Islam, which keeps you firmly in the past? Student?

  521. Mr darkfire316, there you go again, stalking me like a hideous stalker! Are you obsessed with me and my love comments for Ali?

  522. Beautiful! OK, then carry on, for the near future.

    I do know that when I was your age I also was agonizing whether or not there was a God, and whether my religion (Christianity) was true or not. I had very deep believing family, so at your age I too decided to follow my religion.

    But later on it disappointed me and I kept being open to understand other religions and logical thoughtsystems. For a while I exchanged Christianity with New Age thinking, including reincarnation, which Christianity & Islam do not have. I was desperate to retain my belief in an afterlife and a next life. But at last I decided that if that was not true, I was only deluding myself. Me believing it was not going to make it true.

    And we wish you a very long life. And while for now you retain your religion, it is only fair to ask you to keep searching, thinking, and yes, doubting, struggling.

    The emphasis for you seems to be that with Islam you have something beautiful (OK, for you) and that other people want to let you give this up.

    But in a long life it can be Islam that restricts you, that let you not notice many beautiful, happy, free thoughts and actions AND GREAT PEOPLE AND LOVE too, that Islam will cause you to miss. You live in a very exciting period of history and in science and philosophy there are so many more beautiful thoughts to enjoy. If only you keep being open!

    By leaving Islam eventually you also will GAIN sooooo much.

    And really, you are not alone, you are part of all mankind, and we want mankind to have a great future!

    And we are of the opinion that you staying in Islam is bad for mankind in the future, and for your children, if you get any. But if you exchange Islam for something better out there, mankind and your children will profit too.

    And lastly; remember Islam was supposed to last until judgment day. But isn't it simply bizarre that Allah waited 1400 years with judgment day and in the mean time, when the world changed so much, still did not intervene? Still did not update HIS message?

    I so hope you keep doubts!

  523. Obsession is not love. And you have yet to prove one example of me stalking you

  524. Disclaimer :
    The above two comments are all failed attempts to steal my identity.

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