Converted to Islam for a Woman

Converted to Islam for a Woman

 My younger brother suddenly surprised us by declaring that he has already converted to Islam in order to marry his Malay girlfriend. His future in-laws organized his wedding on this Apr 20. My mother almost fainted.

Please help advise them the danger of Islam.

Eric

 

 

Dear Eric,

Your brother is committing a huge mistake and he will live to regret it.  Irrespective of whether Islam is right or wrong anyone who forces you to change your religion does not have much respect for you and without respect love is meaningless. Marriage must be based on love and not on blackmail.  This marriage is doomed.  Unfortunately, love blinds and reason becomes the casualty.

A conditional love is not love.  This Muslim woman does not love your brother.  Someone in love would never force the person she loves to recant his religion in order to please her. By virtue of following a narcissist Muslims are incapable of loving anyone in the true meaning of the word.

The main thing that distinguishes humans from animals is empathy. Empathy is the ability to feel the pain of others. It literally means being in suffering with someone else. All animals can create a loving bond with other animals of their kind or different species through interaction and familiarity. That is not empathy. Empathy is when one cares about strangers. Vegans refuse to consume meat and animal products because they do not want to cause pain to animals. This is one sign of empathy.

To determine wither you have empathy take a look at the following picture. What do you feel?  Does it look funny or sad? If you think it is funny or feel indifferent you lack empathy. If you are disturbed by it and feel sorry for this helpless animal you have empathy.

empati

Muslims love their own children and those close to them.  They are however, unable to feel the suffering of those outside their pack. Empathy is absent in animals. sociopaths and in Muslims.  Other ideologies of hate, such as Nazis, communism, fascism and KKK also discourage empathy. The history of Islam is full of tales of Muslims raiding and butchering innocent people and a few moments later standing for prayer. Not only they did not feel guilt for their atrocities they praised their god for giving them the chance to inflict pain on others.  Islam dehumanizes people and destroys their empathy.

The same lack of empathy exists in Muslims today.  If a Muslim kills a Jews, the majority of Muslims rejoice.  Exceptions are few.  However, if in any conflict a Muslim is hurt all Muslims want revenge.  The majority of Palestinians want the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jews.  Muslims all over the world are supportive of them and their cause.  Wherever there is a conflict between Muslims and non-Muslims, whether it is Israel, Kashmir, Chechnya or in any part of the world, Muslims take the side of Muslims. The question about who is at fault is never raised. Such question is irrelevant. Muslims take the side of Muslims, without hesitation.

This pack mentality is common among animals. What makes humans different, and I would say superior from the evolutionary point of view, is our ability to empathize with those who don’t belong to our pack, our race, our religion, or our species.  Spiritually evolved humans take the side of the wronged one and the oppressed, irrespective of religion or race.  This human quality is not nurtured in Islam. It is discouraged. Muhammad said, the polytheists are unclean (Q. 9:27), and fight those who don’t believe in Allah and the Last Day (9:28).  He urged his followers not to associate with their fathers and brothers if they don’t convert to Islam (9:23) and warned them against taking Jews and Christians as friends. He said whoever takes them as friend is one of them, meaning a kafir (5:51), which means he should be killed (9:5) and treated harshly (9:73).

All these fit Muhammad’s narcissistic character. By following their prophet Muslims have become like him and collectively show signs of narcissism.  I invite everyone to read the sixth edition of my book Understanding Muhammad (it is available in Kindle format from Amazon.com) as well as in hard copy. In this book I have shown that Muhammad suffered from a malignant form of narcissistic personality disorder and how his followers, by virtue of thinking like him and emulating him have become narcissist.  Islam is folly en masse.

As narcissists, Muslims are incapable of true love.  If this woman loved your brother she would have respected his independence and choice of belief and would not have forced him to convert to please her or her parents. It is clear that your brother is not her priority. Her parents, relatives, friends and her community are more important in her estimation than the man she is planning to marry.  This is a bad foundation for marriage.  The chance of such marriages failing is extremely high.

I am afraid, there is a lot of heartache and calamity in store for your brother that he is neither aware of nor prepared for.  We lie in the bed we make. Some people learn from the mistakes of others and others learn it from their own.

 

There is another important factor that will result in the failure of this marriage that has nothing to do with Islam.   Women are attracted to manly men.  Some of the attributes of a manly man are leadership, strength and integrity.  A man who changes his religion to appease his woman sends a clear message that he is weak, needy and insecure – not a leader but a follower – one who has no integrity and will step over his own convictions to gain acceptance from others.  In other words he is a wimp, a wuss, which women find extremely unattractive.

A man who is not manly cannot get respect from any woman. This is ingrained in women’s psychology. Women find strong men attractive and are repulsed by weak men. Although on the surface your brother’s girlfriend may express her joy for his conversion, deep down inside, at a sub conscious level, she is disappointed.  She sees that your brother lacks strength. He is not someone that can be leaned on and trusted. A man who betrays his conviction to gain acceptance from a woman is hardly a dependable man that any woman can find attractive.

The subconscious mind is much stronger than the conscious mind.  It is often compared to the hidden portion of an iceberg.  You can only see the tip of the iceberg. Its massive size is under water, hidden from the view.  Likewise, the largest portion of our consciousness is our subconscious. Our conscious mind is the product of our upbringing, education and culture. It is a superstructure, like a façade that covers the subconscious mind. The sub-conscious mind, which is the foundation of our consciousness and its skeleton, is formed by millions of years of evolution.  It is an evolutionary imperative that women are attracted to strong men.

 

iceberg

The subconcious mind is the dominant part of human consciousness.

 

 

Sadly, your brother has failed his test of manhood.  He has demonstrated to be weak and has devalued himself irreparably in the eyes of his future wife.  This forebodes disaster. She has no control over her feelings.  Just as a man who does not find a woman attractive, can’t be talked into it, a woman who loses respect for a man because he is a wuss, cannot change her views about him.  Your brother has diminished his value in the sight of this woman without redemption.  The first cracks in their marriage will start to show when the honeymoon is over, and from there things will go from bad to worse.  She can’t respect him and that is something she has no control over.

Children born to this couple will pick up the negative vibes that their mother sends and they too will not be able to respect their father.  An emasculated father figure is a bad role model for his children. The psychological effects of such a dysfunctional family will spread to the future generations and many lives can be affected as the result. This is more than what your brother has bargained for.

You have done your duty to help your brother. You contacted me and sought my counsel. I also have fulfilled my responsibility by writing this article and informing him about his mistake.  Ultimately, each person is responsible for his own actions. Countless people commit the same mistake, marry a Muslim and their lives is destroyed. Your brother’s life is no more precious than theirs.  He is an adult. He has the right to err and pay for his errors.  Wish him well and leave him alone.  You are not your brother’s keeper and cannot care about him more that he cares about himself. As Persians say, if you are the bowl, don’t be hotter than the soup.

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  1. be prepared to lose your identity. They will give you a Muslim name and expect you to act and live like a Muslim. Uncles and cousins cant wait to tell you and *guide* you on about this *fantastic true*religion. Never mind the majority do not understand what they read in that book.Malay women are usually more uptight about their religion even if they are not fairly treated by their men. They truly believe in the rewards of a good and obedient Muslim wife. Will take in all the crap done to them by their men in order to attain that *golden umbrella* award for an exemplary wife .That Paradise is under the feet of the husband – is something they believe with all their heart. They maybe highly educated but are a confused nut case bunch – caught between covering themselves up. like their Arab sisters but at the same time also craving the Western lifestyle. Its so bizarre- they will attend a wedding or some event or even work, all fully covered and the next time you see them at the mall – head UNcovered and wearing the tightest of pants or leggings and blouses with heavy make-up ??? You are seduced by their doe-eyed Asian female femininity ….bla..bla..bla of course. But have you thought about your kids? They will be brought up as Muslims and subject to suffocating indoctrination to get Islam inside their head in the schools and every thing else in their life socially, if you were to stay in Msia . They are more concerned about what their family, relatives and society think of them then anything else. If you are not able to pray perfectly for instance, like a good Muslim, she will be responsible for it. Imagine the pressure on the relationship! Their religion comes above everything else even her love for you trust me. There is a lot of hypocrisy going on but they dont care as long as they keep the Muslim facade. If you can play along with the game you will be fine but do you really wanna?

  2. Dear ,i request to all my brothers and sisters who are live in The Great Name of Jesus "Read Complete Bible "
    Than Take Decision.

     “So if you are presenting a sacrifice at the altar in the Temple and you suddenly remember that someone has something against you, leave your sacrifice there at the altar. Go and be reconciled to that person. Then come and offer your sacrifice to God.” (Matthew 5:23-24). 

  3. " if you see a Muslim like that, blame the one not Islam.. "

    Can do that. But if by the same token we see Muslims behave nice and moral, we can say:
    "If you see a Muslim like that, praise the one, not Islam".

    I mean you can't dismiss bad influence of Islam just like that while you take good influence of Islam for granted.

  4. Muslim, you say "according to Islam" and "Islam is full of love" etc. But the problem seems to be that the Islamic holy texts, Quran-Hadiths-Sira, are interpreted in multiple ways. Even if there were some kind of official, mainstream interpretation of Islam, that is endorsed by the best Islam-experts, even then no order in Islam is maintained.

    As Siti Kasim said; foolishly Muslims go for quantity instead of quality. Going for the quantity they make every baby born in Islam a Muslim, then forbid every Muslim to step out of Islam. So that the Muslims who misunderstand, abuse Islam and behave bad in it's name, NEVER are given warnings and thrown out of Islam. And so they can continue to make Islam look bad without being disciplined.

    " Islam doesn't even allow us to kill a cat for no reason". We all believe THAT. But is also obvious to us that once Muslims want to kill cats or humans, inside Islam plenty of REASONS can be found. Like a cat or human being guilty of spreading "Mischief" (Fitna) in the land. Or even "not believing in Mohammed and saying so, thereby exerting "bad influence".

  5. Nothing happens without a primal cause. This is a universal law. If we do nothing Islam will survive for thousands of years and will continue destroying the lives of millions. But we can stop it in a very short time. We need to make the movie about him. So find someone willing to support my project. No one can keep his faith after seeing for himself what a rascal Muhammad was. And they can't say the movie is all lies because at the bottom of the screen there will appear the source of the story. They can then go and verify it for themselves to make sure the story is not fiction but facts taken from Islamic sources.

    There is no need to become frustrated. I can easily envision the end of Islam and the money I need to make the movie is not much.

  6. Spot on – why should an intelligent designer, pick on the worse case scenario, to spread his word? Someone who would pick up a sword, murder, thieve, rape, plunder and enslave to spread a message of peace? Oops, I meant this to be a message of peace, GUESS I GOT THE WRONG GUY, should have stuck with Jesus. Over 200 million killed, in my name, well god makes mistakes, suicide bombers, they misunderstood me. Apostasy, adultery , God knows , I tried to do my best. But these humans, they behave like animals. Next time, I'm going to not try the human thing. They are too bloodthirsty.. And i am sticking with females. The males just want to kill each other. Its an honour thing.

  7. I am with you 100%. The death cult of Islam, the blood that needs to be shed for Allah. "Alluhah Akhbar" means "Blood for Allah , Blood for Allah, Blood for Allah, Blood for Allah".
    The ancient cult of blood sacrifice – still going to this day. 1400 years after the criminal , himself died, but he encode all his criminal activity, into the criminals handbook, the Koran.
    And how, exactly, because you ask the question does that work??? search TROP

  8. I saw a harrowing video, where 2 Muslim girls (in America), were seeing boys.
    The parents, and brother, murdered these 2 girls, their little sister, and his ex-wife,
    They said the girls had dishonoured the family, and family honour was the most important thing.
    I just find it incredible that a parent could kill their children like this.
    The girls said that it was oppressive, and horrible at home.

  9. Momo, that is a typical brain-dead-muslim response (I don't think you deserve a capital).

    Just insult at a stupid level, the level of a brain-washed zombie ,no attempt to take on a genuine challenge.
    Ha -ha!

    Who is the coward!

  10. Ok super late reply but dude, you had me until this one. You jumped down this guy's throat without even knowing the whole deal. You've gone and emasculated him and the whole 9 without even being sure about the truth. Listen – focus on the real issue- the crappy muslim family and society that forced this poor couple into doing their monkey dance in order to please them. You don't know if this girl loves him or not.  You don't even know if its a legit conversion or if it was staged to shut the parents up (like sooooooo many are) Take me for instance.  American born & raised in an intolerant, bigoted muslim home. Do you have any idea what it's like to be an American girl trying to find your place in life while ur crazy muslim family constantly dumps their mountain of emotional burden on you? To be raised among open minded and beautifully diverse people only to go home every day and told you can't befriend them or trust them or fit in with them becuz they aint one of "us"? No. Its extremely messed up.  They raised me to feel alone, excluded from people im pretty sure never did anything but try to include me as an individual;  in a way hogging their kids to themselves, dangling joy and freedom right outside the front door and keeping us locked in their cave of suspicion,  jealousy and control right in the middle of american suburbia. And they loved us sometimes. Not all the time, not for who we actually are,  but for who they want us to be. Not even leaving to attend college was I granted true freedom;  they made sure i was stupid and incapable of handling anything for myself so that i would depend on them to breathe; they'd force me to come home every weekend so they could dump their boat ton of religious/fanatical/societal pressure on me. I believe it was a relief for them when i couldn't handle their demands coupled with the major they'd selected for me and flunked out; leaving me financially cripple and dependent (great way to control someone- isolate, humiliate, and steal any means of power). But hey they "lovvveeee" me and im their "family" so they made sure I knew as a teenage girl what hell they were capable of raining down on me if I dared step out of line. Ive been through so much living hell at the hands of my smiley happy muslim "family" that you can be darned sure soon as I met my man (non muslim, non psycho of course) we had a game plan. And he loved me enough to put on the circus performance of "blah blah oh yea im a moslem sure uhuh" so these nutbags would just let us wed in peace without sticking their ugly heads in and making everything miserable as they always have. Sometimes women born into this mess need help to escape the life with as little drama as possible. You know these muslims would never allow a peaceful transition to a life outside their cult. 

    So again- you don't know their whole story so don't assume. I love my guy, respect him like crazy for ever dealing with these fools in the first place and saving my life and my sanity… and while we're at yes, animals do for sure have empathy. Have yet to meet a muslim that does,  though.  You're pretty ice cold too man, try empathizing with people stuck in this islam nightmare- it's not like any of us chose to be born into such a horrible life. 

  11. Save your anger and read more. There is a big chance that you will leave Islam. This happened to countless Muslims, including myself.

  12. may Allah guide you, you have a great misconception about Islam and the life of prophet Muhammad (s.a.w)…
    I am really angry on your article but still i can't say something bad about you because according to Islam, anyone is not suppose to judge anyone because we don't know about anyone's future, may be you will convert in to Muslims when start noticing about facts in Qur'an. also I'd like to tell you that Islam is full of love and it is very peaceful religion it doesn't even allow us to kill a cat for no reason. if you see a Muslim like that, blame the one not Islam..
    may Allah guide you, and show you the right way, AMEEN

  13. Dear Samantha
    Introduce me from Indonesia.
    My name is Achmad 
    Before I was Muslim.
    I decided to leave Islam for approximately 3 years ago.

    Now you can say each respect.nantinya when Muslims feel they already have a lot of followers will surely begin to move beyond them to slaughter other people, because in Islamic tolerance is essentially haram! Her facts what? Islam was only teaches hate on other people outside Islam.What well with the murder of other people and forbid them to worship with destroying houses of worship can be justified? Islam justify it, while other religions such as Christianity, hindu and buddha does not justify it is. do not you will be doing jihad with churches bombed later? And destroy the disbelievers at that time.

    For me a better person but soulless precious stones worship rather than worshiping God but do violence.violence it just belongs there Setan.Jika god I like it better than having no religion depraved religion like Islam.

    Actually I do not want to demonize Islam.

    I would like to ask a question for you:

    Is the God worshiped by Muslims that has the power? When has, why he should tell his people to fight the unbelievers with their hands when he could do so with his own hands?
    Are you able to explain?
    So !!!

  14. well-said!!

  15. Hi Eric, 
    I've read some harsh and nasty comments here about Islam, and everyone's entitled to their opinion. I was once a catholic until I met my husband and he didn't ask me to convert when we got married. However by the time goes by, I've built a deeper understanding about Islam and have been through life experience to find Islam and I don't need to read some articles made by some ignorant to prove me that I'm wrong. I only believe that God is one, Allah and nobody has ever seen Him. He's the One and Only, no parents and no son/children. No picture ever made to describe Him, only some arabic word to say ALLAH. I learned that other religion, always has pictures of their God, like Budha, gods in Hindu, Jesus in Christian and catholic. That's when I know, this is the simple fact about the existence of God. Faith is something beyond people's understanding, and we should respect each other's. By the way ALI SINA, I have read your articles here, and nothing can change my mind about leaving Islam. 

  16. Ali Sina offers $50,000 reward to anyone who can prove him wrong.

    So funny and coward. …

    If he really speaks the truth and ready to maintain the truth, why only offer $50.000? why not $5000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000? If he's true, he will never be wrong.

    this means that he's afraid that if he is really right or not. He's still doubt about his simple logic
    And this means that his truth can only be valued $50.000.

    I offer you $50000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000, if you can prove that 2 x 2 is not 4.

    Anyone?

  17. Not quite everything. There is a case where Muhammad was proven wrong by his followers, when he gave wrong advice on how to inoculate date palm. The hadith shows the human side of Muhammad and demonstrates that he too could make mistakes, which would not have been the case if everything was divinely inspired. The hadith also reports Muhammad's statement that the followers knew better than he in worldly affairs.

  18. I think chuck already mentioned it that Muhammad did not actually rule that one should be circumcised, and that circumcision is a Fitra. So there was no new law.

  19. Guest,
    Given that everything Muhammad did/said was/is regarded as having been divinely inspired, the comparison is quite appropriate.

  20. Guest,
    if the Arabs had practiced circumcision, why was a new law necessary?

  21. //There is no evidence that circumcision, which was a Jewish practice, had become part of the pagan tradition to which Muhammad belonged.//

    I got the following that may help. Check this link: http://www.answering-christianity.com/king_heracl

    (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Revelation, Volume 1, Book 1, Number 6)"

    The sub narrator adds, "Ibn An-Natur was the Governor of llya' (Jerusalem) and Heraclius was the head of the Christians of Sham. Ibn An-Natur narrates that once while Heraclius was visiting ilya' (Jerusalem), he got up in the morning with a sad mood. Some of his priests asked him why he was in that mood? Heraclius was a foreteller and an astrologer. He replied, 'At night when I looked at the stars, I saw that the leader of those who practice circumcision had appeared (become the conqueror). Who are they who practice circumcision?' The people replied, 'Except the Jews nobody practices circumcision, so you should not be afraid of them (Jews).

    'Just Issue orders to kill every Jew present in the country.'

    While they were discussing it, a messenger sent by the king of Ghassan to convey the news of Allah's Apostle to Heraclius was brought in. Having heard the news, he (Heraclius) ordered the people to go and see whether the messenger of Ghassan was circumcised. The people, after seeing him, told Heraclius that he was circumcised. Heraclius then asked him about the Arabs. The messenger replied, 'Arabs also practice circumcision.'

  22. Considering the centrality of circumcision in Islam, I don't think we can compare it with drinking camel urine or honey.

  23. I am a mortal and unable to understand the Holy Kuran or words of the God. I am a sinner of first grade and full of ego and envy.

  24. Guest,
    It does not follow. There were things Muhammad asked people to do but which he did not do and it never led to any apostasy. It is in one of the hadiths that he had recommended the drinking of camel's urine as a cure to some ailment. Yet when he suffered the effect of the poisoned food, there is no record to show that he availed himself of his own prescription. Were there no more camels in Arabia or the camels no longer urinated? Same thing with his having prescribed honey as a panacea for stomach pains. No one says that he drank honey to alleviate his agony. Again the question arises, were there no more honey bees in Arabia when Muhammad fell sick? None of his followers apostatized because of his failure or unwillingness to take a dose of his own medicine. As this was not a big deal, his having not been circumcised could not have ruffled any feathers and may have been passed for one the privileges which he preserved exclusively for himself.

  25. Chuck,
    If he had been born with a congenital defect, we all know that it would have been held as another evidence of his extra ordinary nature, The hadiths would have been awashed with it. But there is no record on which such a possibility can be based. So what is left is the option that he was circumcised like any other human being. And that could either have taken place at birth or childhood or later on in life. For the former to hold, it has to be shown that it was the practice for Arab children to be circumcised for he alone could not have been singled out for the ritual.. There is no such evidence. Neither is there proof of adult circumcision. At what point then was he circumcised if he was not born with it, was not circumcised at birth or as a child or as an adult?

  26. @Guest,
    //If we follow the prescription of the two ayats you quoted, we may still live in caves today. //
    That is a judgement you are passing on Quran and I support you for that. The potential effects of those verses are not in question by the way, it is the inference that I am drawing your attention to.

    Also the part about it not being 5 pillars or wajib like the salats etc and only being a Fitra all indicate that if Muhammad himself was found not to be circumcised it wouldn't have been such a scam. So the presumptive evidence here is to the contrary. And I will again refer you to "Evidence of Absence" logical structure.
    That is the very reason why many muslims are confused about whether Muhammad was circumcised with some daif reports suggesting that he was born circumcised. Off course that is possible. It is a medical condition called Aposthia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aposthia
    But if that is true then it also means that Muhammad wasn't formally circumcised (or at least there is no such evidence) and was born with a congenital defect.

    The gist is No Shahi Hadeeth mentions Muhammad's circumcision or the Quran itself mentions it being a must for Muslim. verses in Quran suggest that Allah's creation is perfect in how it was designed and thus circumcision is a violation of that spirit and definitely painful to the little kids subjected to it. It may have its benefit (based on observation, no concrete proof by the way) and in fact WHO suggest it being done among African tribes to lessen the risk of AIDS and other STDs, but that assumes that the people will be associating no typical 'morality' with sexual activities.

  27. @Guest,
    //As you sai, that is a completely different topic. We are discussing circumcision.//
    I am just rebutting your assertion that a massive apostasy could have been caused, as if it didn't happen. Well if you know about the Riddah wars you know that apostasy at a big scale did happen. Just saying.

  28. @chuck,

    As you sai, that is a completely different topic. We are discussing circumcision.

  29. @chuck,

    If we follow the prescription of the two ayats you quoted, we may still live in caves today. Trees would remain trees — no furniture created out of their timber. Clay would remain clay — no ceramics. Therefore, circumcision does not violate the ayats. In my view, inferential evidence for Muhammad's being circumcised is stronger than his being uncircumcised.

  30. Sorry idda should be read as Riddah..typo there

  31. @Guest,
    //probably people would apostate massively//
    And in fact they did. There were the Iddah Wars which immediately followed Muhammad's demise. I am not suggesting whether lack of circumcision was a reason but merely pointing that there indeed was a major wave of apostasy immediately later.

  32. @Guest,
    On the other hand Muhammad didn't exactly rule that one should circumcise. He counted it among 5 Fitra. It is not exactly one of the 5 pillars or wazib. Quran, which otherwise jumps with a verse or two every opportune moment to make allowances for its prophet (like allowing him as many wives as he liked while restricting others to 4), is also mute on this subject. In fact I can quote Q 25:2 which says "It is He Who created All things, and ordered them In due proportions." to suggest that Allah claims to have created stuff with a perfect design. Circumcision is a violation of that design and could be a torture to the kid who undergoes the procedure.

    Given the lack of evidence for a circumcised Muhammad and given the ayats from Quran (there are few more e.g. Q 64:3) which suggest the opposite I think Muhammad is more likely to not have been circumcised.

  33. My response to you is similar to the one I gave chuck. Since Muhammad promoted circumcision, him being circumcised is not a finding to be reported. But it would be headlines of the day if the funeral bathers found him uncircumcised, and probably people would apostate massively. Therefore more logical inference is that he was circumcised.

  34. @chuc.
    As Muhammad promoted circumcision, finding him uncircumcised would have been big news which would have been reported in various hadiths. Yet, there is no single hadith reporting him uncircumcised. More proper inference is that he was circumcised.

  35. Guest,
    Circumcision was a Jewish custom but there is no evidence to suggest that the prevailing pagan culture, of which Muhammad was a part, had imbibed the practice. If it had been, then there would have been no need for its enactment or re-enactment by Muhammad who would have been circumcised either at birth or in childhood. The alternative would have been for him to be circumcised as an adult. Still there is no record to back this up otherwise Aisha, the muhammadan encyclopaedia, would have voiced it as an example which others would be compelled to emulate. Aisha voiced her indignation at the husband's philandering with people's wives until the 'proper verse was revealed'. It is not likely that she would have kept quiet over the husband's late circumcision. None of his wives or companions who saw Muhammad's private part said that he was circumcised. The inference is that he was not.

  36. There is no evidence that circumcision, which was a Jewish practice, had become part of the pagan tradition to which Muhammad belonged. If it had, then there would have been no need for Muhammad to have given the order for its enforcement. Since there is no proof that he was circumcised at birth or childhood, the alternative was for him to have gone through that as an adult. Still there is no such record otherwise, Aisha, the muhammadan encyclopedia, would have, unfailingly, mentioned it as an example for others. His companions and wives who saw his private part did not say that he was circumcised. The inference to draw is that Muhammad was not circumcised.

  37. @Guest,
    As I said, there is no evidence to suggest that he was circumcised either. And since Quran doesn't instruct so, it is valid to assume that that the Quranic Allah didn't seem it important enough to make this part of its revealations. Considering that it is also not mentioned in the Sunnahs we can assume that he may not have been circumcised. As such this amount to "Evidence of Absence".

  38. @chuc.
    Thanks for the reference. But I think it is too speculative. Too conjectural. The fact that Quran does not instruct circumcision does not mean Muhammad was not circumcised. I am sure Muhammad's wives saw his private part. I am sure that his companions also saw his private part when they bathed him before he was buried. Yet there is no report about him not being circumcised.

  39. @Guest.
    In a way it is evidence of absence that he was circumsized. More about the logic here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_absence

  40. I do not think this is an evidence. I would expect that you would be able to show an authoritative report saying that someone saw the private part of Muhammad and it was not circumcised.

  41. Guest,
    Yes, I can.
    If he had been circumcised the quran would have mentioned it and there would have been no need for him to make a law regarding it. It would have flowed from the existing culture or tradition. But then again, he would have abolished it as having been part of the 'pagan' tradition of the "period of ignorance". Circumcision of males was something he introduced but which was not tried on him.

  42. Dear Tedjusant, Eric's younger brother will not lose his head if he leaves his marriage.

  43. Can you show evidence that Muhammad was not circumcised?

  44. I cannot.

  45. Dear Luke, she converted out of Islam to marry you. Not because she believed in the religion. Your wife's case was similar to that of Eric's younger brother.

  46. Guest,
    Can you produce any evidence to show that Muhammad was circumcised?

  47. Vijay is right. Eric's younger brother can go to Singapore. Vijay is also right that Allah SWT is not dependent upon who becomes a Muslim or not. Are you quoting the Quran, Vijay?

  48. Hi infidel/kafir, can you be specific where this kind of nikha take place?

  49. Dear Eric, no one in Malaysia will chop anyone's head for leaving Islam. Being a Malaysian yourself, you know this much better that I do.

  50. Dear Eric, recent health reports indicate the health benefits of circumcision. If you have not done it, consider doing it now. Check this link http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/circumcision/MY0

  51. Dear Eric, your brother will be received with an open arm and heart by the family of his Malay wife. He will be a bit different from you, eg. he will not eat pork and drink alcoholic beverages; he will go to mosques,etc — but other than that he will remain your beloved younger brother. Please allow him to continue expressing his love to you. His marriage to the Malay girl is not doomed to be a disaster, it may turn out to be a happy marriage whose happiness may extend to people around it. Nothing to be pessimistic about.

  52. Dear Kirana, I respect your decision to leave your boy friend although I disagree with your statement that there is no way back with Islam. You know full well that there is no persecution against leavers of Islam in Indonesia. I know that no one in Indonesia will keep you in the religion despite their objection, which is out of love and bewilderment.

  53. Hi Agracean, I do not think he is a wuss. He proudly declares himself being a Muslim, teaches Islam, and spends much of his time promoting aspects of Islam. He is intelligent and is a man of integrity. Both Muslims and non Muslims respect him highly and appreciate his contribution. He is apparently aware of those things you call despicable lies.

  54. @ Siti Kassim, you are an intellectual like Dr. Ali Sina, who can think out of the idiot box. The Malays are a gentle people, whose forefathers had joined the wrong religion. That is why the Malaysian PM and ex-PMs have never agreed to hudud (sharia) laws, which also are not practiced in Indonesia.

  55. Hi Guest, he is a moderate muslim, meaning that he only accept and practices the good teachings of this deadly cult while at the same time, turning a blind eye to all the despicable lies and atrocities committed by this devil's last prophet. In other words, this moderate muslim is a wuss.

  56. I know a case in Malaysia which is in complete opposition to your story. He is a European guy who has been married to a Malay woman for about twenty years now. From what I can observe from the outside, he is a leader in his family and he even teaches Malays about aspects of Islam. In one way or the other he has found Islam. He is not a wuss and he does not go down hill.

  57. congratulation to his brother l pray his family also convert.

  58. "Her parents, relatives, friends and her community are more important in her estimation than the man she is planning to marry. This is a bad foundation for marriage. The chance of such marriages failing is extremely high."

    In East Asia while families no longer arrange marriages, marriages must be approved by family, and it is very hard for people to break away from their families. There is a piece of advice that if a woman's family behaves poorly, one should not marry the girl

    So in East Asian marriages, Mr. sina, what are your thoughts?

  59. If he leaves the marriage he will certainly lose his head?_

  60. Dear Gracy
    /what do you mean by 'one will become intelligent under the shadow of Buddhism'? /

    To be precise, One will acquire the "faculty of discrimination" on the practical level.

    Buddha said don't believe because i am saying it ;don't believe it because your scripture ,holy book say's so;don't believe it because the society believes it so.Inquire it ;investigate it practically ,if you find there is truth contained in that belief/statement which is beneficial to thyself as well to the society as whole accept it ,otherwise discard it .The whole science based on this principle isn't it .
    Dear Siti,
    My above post was not to thrust any religion upon you and, even i have avoided addressing Buddhism as religion. I only wanted to make you aware ,not to accept anything blindly and, Buddhism rest on this foundation of asking question and to find solution on practical level.When you entrust more and more work to your mind you will become intelligent ,there is no scope for Muslims to ask questions and to find solutions in Islam.Look at the plight of Muslims throughout the world .Arabs are rich not because of intelligence ,but because of natural wealth It is the intelligence of westerner's who have invented motors.Ultimately intelligence rule and it is based on query and not on belief.

  61. Dear Mr Sakat, what do you mean by 'one will become intelligent under the shadow of Buddhism'?

  62. Ms Siti Kasim, the truth of the matter is that there are also many moderate Muslims who think like you do, meaning that they only believe in the good, compassionate side of Islam and that's why they named it 'religion of peace', and discard the bad, horrific side of Islam. I hope that you are not one of those moderate muslim, who cannot bear to leave this cult.

  63. Dear Sakat, You may be right in the origin of Islam here. That is now history and we got to live in the present. As I have said before in reply to the previous commentator, I promote and support freedom and that include freedom of religion and from religion. Just do not force others.

  64. I wish I can answer you directly on your question but alas, I am no scholar nor am I an expert. My stand is very simple. I respect every human being desire either to believe in any religion or not to believe. If they want to believe a barbaric and inhumane kind of religion, that is their prerogative. where I draw the line is where they intrude onto other people's lives and force others to become like them. I believe in love and compassion to all. You can rest assured, I have been called an apostate many times and I really do not care. My belief is my belief and its nobody's business. If there is God, let him or her or whatever it is, deal with me and not any mere mortals.

  65. I appreciate your openness,this was not the situation some 500 years back.The whole of Malacca and Indonesian Archipelago was thriving with Buddhism , really the scientific and true way of life (I do not use term religion to it ,that doesn't fit to it) and whole area was prosperous and peaceful.One will become intelligent under the shadow of Buddhism.Look at Japan ,Korea,China,Thailand ,Taiwan etc,Malayan's were equally intelligent when they were Buddhist, but now you see ,the Malay economy is thriving because of ethnic minorities and not because of Malay people.You people are suffering now because of single man's lust for a woman of Arab origin,the king of Malay.He converted to Islam only to marry that girl and later passed the ordinance that, every Malayan must embrace Islam .This religion is ideal for thug,s ,robbers,pedophile etc anti social people ,there is no scope for your intellectual development under this cult.If your people desires to make Malay a prosperous country ,revert back to your real Dharama that, is Buddhism.Thanks for sharing the facts and ,of course your emotions.

  66. Dear Ms Siti Kasim, the question here is that although you are trapped in this religion of force legally by force, do you actually believe in all the truth and facts that my dear Ms Dr Ali Sina has presented here in this fabulous website? Or, are you still following that dead last monstrous prophet like a braindead zombie?

  67. Dear Ali Sinna,

    I am compelled to write this as I feel people are not aware of the true situation in Malaysia. I am a Malay woman. By law, being born a Malay automatically makes you a Muslim. It doesn't matter whether you are a believer or not. Being Malay as a race in Malaysia is synonymous as being a Muslim. It is written in our Constitution. I know, it is most bizarre but that is another story. Indeed, it is impossible to leave the religion via our civil laws.

    Anyway, I write to defend in belittling the man who married this Malay woman. I don't know the whole story but I can say generally what happened in this kind of scenario, he converted, I believe, not because he was forced by the woman but by the laws that we have now. It is a very oppressive law and very unwarranted but there you go, if you fall in love with a Malay woman in Malaysia, the man must convert if they want the marriage to be legally recognised. All Malay people are governed under the Syariah laws that covers Family matters. Although there are attempts by some quarters to widen the net and even proposal to implement Hudud here. Again, that is another story.

    Many marriages that I personally know in this circumstances, did it purely for paper sake. Their lifestyle don't change at all. It is merely to fulfill the legal requirements. So, please dont judge him nor the woman as they are tied under this archaic law which forces people to convert no matter what their reason in doing so. The Islamists rather have quantity than quality. They are proud when they announce to the world how many Muslim followers they have but what they do not know, they are belittling and made a fool of Islam as many are forced and coerced in becoming one.

    I am telling you this from my personal experience and because I am born a Malay, I am trapped in this situation where I would have to 'force' a man to convert to a religion that I personally question myself in order to be married. To leave the country is out of the question as I am from a humble background.

    So, I do hope that readers would understand further the dilemma that we, Malaysian Malays are going through.

    Thank you.

  68. Dear Luke, can you analyze ,whether we have reached the pinnacle of civilization ,how micro and macro level of thinking act in establishing this height for, we human being in attaining our goal to that ultimate……?.

  69. I am an Indan, married to a Malay woman. She converted out of Islam to marry me. We have three grown up children who are all atheist. Go out of the country and convert out and get married.

  70. Slave of Prophet
    Monday 13 May 2013, 9:53 am

    @My grand father used to say that Allah should be worshiped at least 7 times in a day and same 7 times belief also should be done in prophet (SAW). That will surely lead one into eternal heaven.

  71. Chuck, you are quite right. The scriptures say that the deviants will go to hell. That is why Christ never advocated that the Gospel be spread through violence or be forcibly imposed on people.Rather HE urged the disciples to do good and if they were rejected anywhere all they had to do was to shake the dust off their feet so it would be a testimonial on the day of judgment. HE never advocated nor practiced violence. HE never had a single soldier let alone an army to plunder and subjugate other people. Even when taken prisoner by the Romans and Jews prior to the crucifixion, HE was still benevolent by re-attaching the ear of the soldier which was severed by Peter. Muhammad, on the other hand, Muhammad ordered for the beheading of Zayyanab who had poisoned the meat served to him and his companions. There are billions of light years between the two people, just as there is a marked difference between day and night.
    Leana knows the truth but thinks that it is obligatory to defend the indefensible.

  72. @Leana,
    At least get the numbers right. Matthew 7: 13“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.1
    4“For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
    The context of M – 7:19 is 7:15: Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

    //Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths//
    There is a great deal of difference between the saying what a frustrated preacher/prophet/man would say and actually going around and killing, butchering, raping, looting entire tribes. Thats what Muhammad did.

    Nobody would have held a grudge against Muhamad if he simply had said that disbelievers would rot in eternal hell, it were his deeds which so thoroughly quash any myth of prophethood. Jesus on the other hand, at least per the legends, proved by numerous miracles that His path was a good, moral one. You can then say that He earned the prophethood by his good deeds and hence deviants would be provably wrong. If the scriptures suggest that the deviants would go to hell then Jesus is saying just as much.

  73. Leana, let us compare JESUS with Muhammad:
    Jesus healed, Muhammad maimed
    Jesus raised from the death and gave life, Muhammad killed in his thousands,
    Jesus fed, Muhammad plundered
    Jesus gave His life and is the Messiah, Muhammad sought to preserve his by asking others to die
    The examples of Jesus have brought happiness to the world, the examples of Muhammad bring misery.
    Jesus brought love and peace, Muhammad brought hate and war.
    JESUS came and built, Muhammad came and destroyed.
    Jesus pointed the way to salvation, Muhammad led the way to hell
    Jesus taught to love one's neighbour as one's self, Muhammad taught to love only muhammadans,
    JESUS came for all mankind, Muhammad divided the world into two: that of war and islam.

  74. Jesus says that most people will go to hell. 7:13-14
    4. Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 7:19
    Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has "come not to send peace, but a sword." 10:34-36
    11. Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching. 11:20-24
    Jesus will send his angels to gather up "all that offend" and they "shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." 13:41-42, 50
    Any city that doesn't "receive" the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. 6:11
    . Jesus says that those that believe and are baptized will be saved, while those who don't will be damned. 16:16
    John the Baptist says that Christ will burn the damned "with fire unquenchable." 3:17

    34. Jesus says that entire cities will be violently destroyed and the inhabitants "thrust down to hell" for not "receiving" his disciples. 10:10-15

  75. "………..habeer · 4 weeks ago
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!……………….. ALI SINA FOOLISHNESS EXPOSED ………………..!!!!!!!!!!!
    1)
    #Muhammad said, the polytheists are unclean (Q. 9:27)…………………..

    I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO SINNA?,HE SAY " Muhammad said," HE DON'T KNOW THE BASIC KNOWLEDGE OF ISLAM&QURAN ,THE QURAN FROM ALMIGHTY GOD ALLAH,NOT FROM PROPHET [S]………………………..

    2) THE VERSES FROM NOBLE QURAN 9:27 SAYS " 27. Then after that Allâh will accept the repentance of whom He will. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful……….."HERE WHERE IS MR.SINA QURAN SAYS " polytheists are unclean "??????????????????????/

    PLZ SHOW ME ……………………………….

    Shabeer .. Grink Beer, go to this link http://quran.com/9/28 and read this..

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  76. Yes I agree. You are right. Can you imagine, how horrible shabber looks, they reflect devil. You see their imams look like devils. Muslims are cruel people. It shows on their faces.

  77. You are a liar ! We believers of God are the generous people. V give everyone irrespective of kafir muslims or good human beings, they are non-muslims. You are a liar ! Your Imams have pot belly. They may be having something else in their belly other than intestine, because you all are violent people, human blood suckers. Haters, liars . you all lust women. You are followers fof satanic allah. who submits you, uses you for his destructive goals. You all are brain dead zombies.

  78. Slave Mentality, you are angered that a video has portrayed Muhammad in a negative light. First of all, there is nothing positive about the man.So there is no need inventing an undeserved personality for him. What is wrong in saying things you don't like about him? After all, that is what you muhammadans do to the revered persons of other religions. As they say, what is good for the goose is definitely good for the gander.

  79. @Shabeer,
    //@Abu Bakr into giving him a 6 yr old near toddler in marriage//
    You first make up your mind about the issue. The links give contrasting theories.
    The first link tries to rephrase Moiz Amzad and Zahid Aziz. Both of which have been repeatedly trashed. And if you want I can trash it again.
    The second link tries to legalize marriage at the age of 6 and sex at 9. This you have already tried once (in a separate post) and the end result was that Aisha must have been a hormonally disbalanced abnormal lady. Now you can agree that she was abnormal, I don't know what that makes the Mother of Believers!!

  80. Shabby, I am aware that some muhammadans are attacking Ishaq for the accurate account he gave of Muhammad's life. To make the attacks palatable, the revisionists now claim that Ishaq was the son of a Jew whose grandfather was a traditionalist(whatever that means). They are basing their attacks on the revised edition made by Hisham because the original portrayal of Muhammad was so bad that Hisham had to give it thorough editing. He said allowing the original work by Ishaq to stand would have caused many people a lot of discomfort. Even after the editing, Muhammad is still not better than a reincarnated devil.
    It was not only baby Aisha Muhammad was attracted to. He is quoted as saying that:" I HELD SUCH AND SUCH WHEN SHE WAS A BABY AND GREATLY DESIRED HER". Does anybody in his right mind desire a baby? Muhammad expressed the same feeling for Habiba bint Abbas who he saw in the cradle and vowed that should he live for her to attain the age of marriage, he would marry her. To him the age of marriage was six year which is quite abnormal. There is no defense for such habitual craze after little girls.

  81. //sex with their captive women//
    Don't equate sex with a captive woman with marrying a slave. Or may be that is your Islamic teachings.You see no difference between a captive woman and a slave and between rape and marriage!!
    And all this talk about eradicating slavery are mere words. The fact is the Arabic muslim countries are the last when it comes to abolishing slavery. Per Ibn Khaldun: "the Black nations are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because (Blacks) have little that is (essentially) human and possess attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade
    Muhammad may have given some lip service about slaves being equal, but he himself had God knows how many slaves.

  82. Shabby, your allah has problems with the common thief who steals an egg or rope. He has no such problem with a mega robber who happens to be a muhammadan. The quran says nothing about robbery. Muhammad was a mega robber. That was why allah saw nothing wrong with it because whatever Muhammad robbed he shared it with allah.Muhammadans have built on this. It is no crime for them to dispossess the poor Hindus of their property and kick them out of their houses in Bangladesh just as it was not wrong for the same thing to happen in Punjab, Sind, Kashmir etc. In Egypt the muhammadan settler elements are forcing the indigenous Copts to flee their ancestral homes in droves leaving their properties to be taken over by their persecutors. It happened in Turkey when the Armenians and Greeks were thrown out and their possessions were distributed to the muhammadans. What was done to those who committed those crimes against humanity?Stealing is haram when the victim is a muhammadan. But it is halal if the victim is a non muhammadan. That goes to consolidate the doctrine of dividing the world into two: the house for plunder by muhammadans and the house of islam. Muhammad said that anyone who commits illegal sex or theft will go to paradise on the condition that such a criminal is a muhammadan.

  83. @Shabeer,
    //PLZ STUDY THE ARABS HISTORY ,WHEN U GOT A FREE TIME ,THAT WILL LEAVE U'R IGNORANCE /FOOLISHNESS FROM U'R BRAIN//
    So do you certainly deny that there are three kinds of Arabs? The ancient Arabs, the Pure Arabs and the Arabized Arabs? Only the Musta Ribah are Ishmaelites. The Pure Arabs are Qahtanites from Yemen. Unfortunately for you, I am well versed in history in general while you are just a copy paster.
    Pick up the Muqaddima by Ibn Khaldun and read it cover to cover. http://religionresearchinstitute.org/Mohammad/ish

    Do you have a geneology of Muhamad?

  84. @Abu Bakr into giving him a 6 yr old near toddler in marriage. http://www.islamhinduism.com/misconceptions/71-mahttp://pedophile1.blogspot.in/
    http://pedophile2.blogspot.in/

    @Ibn Ishaq 510.&Ishaq 580……….NOT TRUSTFUL EVIDENCE……….

    @….murderer
    @crimes……
    forbade robbery & forbade mutilation [cuting body parts]
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 654
    adulterer,alcoholic drinker,robber & thief steals not a beliver:
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 655
    alcohol prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 644
    advocating good and forbidding evil
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 645
    unjustice/forced taken land prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 632,33,34
    quarrel/fight prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 637
    muslim justice with other
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 622
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 626
    oppression prohibited:
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 629

    Help oppressed people
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 623,24
    theft prohibit
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 42 :: Hadith 614 ,12
    wife beat prohibited:
    Dawud :: Book 11 : Hadith 2137 ,38,41
    jealous prohibit:
    Dawud :: Book 41 : Hadith 4885 http://www.islam-usa.com/index.php?option=com_conhttp://humanrightsi.blogspot.in/ http://humanrightsin.blogspot.in/ http://dhimmiinislam.blogspot.in/

  85. TRUTH ABOUT THE PROPHET MUHAMMED[SA]
    The Scientific Miracles of the Prophet Muhammad Sayings http://www.islamreligion.com/category/35/
    Evidence of Muhammad’s Prophethood http://www.islamreligion.com/category/38/
    ISLAM AND HUMAN RIGHT
    PROPET MUHAMMED(SA) GREATEST: http://www.islamhinduism.com/prophet-muhammad/23-http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/i/u/6103974/f/phttp://www.call-to-monotheism.com/i/u/6103974/f/T

    @ Why was he an orphan at such a tender age?…………..
    THAT NOT VALUABLE REASON FOR CRITICIZE PROPHETS[SA],PEOPLE BORN WITH /WITHOUT FATHER /MOTHER IS QUITE NATURAL…….WE DON'T KNOW THE ALLHA LOGIC
    @highway robbery…..
    @thief……….
    STEALING/THEFT/ROBBERY PROHIBITED
    BUKARI 1.3.91,(4.52.65),4.52.308
    Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4367 ,73,74,75,77,82

    Theft is Haraam (forbidden) according to the Quran, Sunnah [sayings of Prophet Muhammad ] and Ijmaa’ (scholarly consensus). Allaah, the Most Exalted, has condemned this action and decreed an appropriate punishment for it. The Hadd [i.e. the legal punishment prescribed by the Sharee'ah (Islamic law)] for a thief is to cut off the thief's hand. Allaah Almighty Says in the Noble Quran (what means):

    “[As for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands in recompense for what they earned [i.e. committed] as a deterrent [punishment] from Allaah. And Allaah is Exalted in Might and Wise.” [Quran 5:38]

    The Prophet said:

    “The hand (of the thief) should be cut off for (the theft of) a quarter of a Dinar or more.” [Al-Bukhaari]

    The Prophet cursed the thief because he is a corrupt element in society, and if he is left unpunished, his corruption will spread and infect the body of the Ummah (Muslim community). He said:

    “May Allaah curse the thief who steals an egg and has his hand cut off, or steals a rope and has his hand cut off.” [Al-Bukhaari]

  86. #sex with their captive women…………………………….
    The Qur'an does provide permission for those who wish to marry
    slave women (4:27). Indeed, the Prophet had said that such marriages
    will confer a double reward. “He who provides the slave woman under
    him with proper manners, provides her with the best education, then
    frees her and ultimately marries her will be given a double reward.’’
    (Bukhari, Muslim)
    The situation that prevailed in all societies where the institution
    of slavery existed was such that slave women were used at will and
    were employed to gain economic advantage by inciting them towards
    prostitution. As for Islam, it provided for a facility which would, in the
    course of one generation, bring an end to the system through the slave
    women themselves.
    The slave woman is the property of the master. However, the
    master has no right, whatsoever, to incite her towards adultery. Like
    the male slaves, the female slaves, too, have rights of their own. It is
    the duty of the master to provide her with food, shelter, clothes and
    other necessities. Moreover, the Qur'an has asked the owner to make
    the necessary arrangements for her marriage as well (Qur'an 24:32).
    This, in effect, means that the Qur'an has prompted the owner
    towards having sexual relations with an unmarried female slave. This
    permission is however restricted to the owner alone. No one else is
    allowed to use her in this fashion even if it be with the permission of
    the master!
    In giving birth to the child of the master, the slave woman
    becomes entitled to new rights. Thenceforth, the master has no right
    to sell her. She becomes the mother of her master’s children. These
    children, too, become entitled to all the rights and privileges enjoyed by
    the master’s other children. Islam disagrees with the Jewish stand
    that the children born through a slave woman have none of the rights
    that should naturally be given to them by virtue of paternity. These
    children are, in all respects, his own children. There is to be no
    discrimination of any kind between them and the other children. With
    the death of the master, the slave woman, who is the mother of his
    children, becomes a free woman. She is then protected by her own
    children. They, too, like the other children, will becomes entitled to a
    share in their father’s inheritance.
    The permission to accept slave women as one’s life-partner
    was, in fact, a provision which would, in the course of one generation,
    cut out the very root of slavery. In reality, therefore, the permission
    granted for having relations with slave women was one among the
    many unique steps taken by Islam in practically eradicating slavery.
    It is not possible to equate the permission given for having
    relations with slave women to adultery. These acts stand at two extreme
    poles. One is the case of the woman who lives under her master
    enjoying the protection that he confers upon her. It is a relationship in
    which he fully agrees to take up the responsibilities that may result as
    a product of that relationship. It is a relationship in which her personality,
    beyond the contours defined by sex, is accorded full recognition. It is
    a relationship which opens to her the door to freedom. As for the
    second, it is nothing but a carnal relationship with a prostitute without
    any sort of commitment. The position of the prostitute is, in fact, much
    worse than that of the slave woman. For, she is nothing more than a
    soul less animal. Her function is restricted solely to the gratification of
    the animal passions of man. There is not even a grain of love and
    compassion in that relationship, not the slightest touch of personal
    fulfillment even. It is but a transaction made solely for money. Flesh
    trade! The man who comes for the satisfaction of carnel of his desire
    is never prepared to take up the responsibility that may accrue from it.
    He has no obligation towards her. She is only an animal destined to
    satisfy his sexul appetite. Each one of her relationships will serve only
    to immerse her even deeper into the mire that is the inhumanity of
    prostitution. Even the very dream of freedom is alien to her. She is one
    doomed to embrace the loneliness of orphanhood when in a diseased
    state, with her skin wrinkled and faded, she ends up being the object
    of nobody’s concern.
    What, then, of the tradition which lays open, before the slave,
    the very door to freedom? And what of the rottings system which
    drives the woman from one dependence to the other? Any comparison,
    whatsoever, between these two is impossible because they stand at
    two opposing and extreme poles. One recognized by benign humanism,
    the other which leads to depredation and frustration.
    CONTINUE PLZ……… .http://islamicslavery1.blogspot.in/

  87. @In sura 16:76 allah forbids that a slave and the master should be equal………………….WHERE IS IT?

    THE VERSES SAYS ABOUT THE EXAMPLE FOR GOOD BELIEVER & BAD BELIEVER,NOT THE SLAVE & THE MASTER:WE R THE HUMAN BEING R THE SLAVE OF ALLHA…………. WE MUST LEAD THE PATH OF GOD,NEVER DEVIATE FROM HIS PATH ,THIS TOPIC ALLHA SAYS TO HUMAN BEING WITH EXAMPLE………….

    75. Allâh puts forward the example (of two men a believer and a disbeliever); a slave (disbeliever) under the possession of another, he has no power of any sort, and (the other), a man (believer) on whom We have bestowed a good provision from Us, and He spends thereof secretly and openly. Can they be equal? (By no means, not). All the praises and thanks be to Allâh. Nay! (But) most of them know not.
    76. And Allâh puts forward (another) example of two men, one of them dumb, who has no power over anything (disbeliever), and he is a burden to his master, whichever way he directs him, he brings no good. Is such a man equal to one (believer in the Islâmic Monotheism) who commands justice, and is himself on a Straight Path?

    77. And to Allâh belongs the unseen of the heavens and the earth. And the matter of the Hour is not but as a twinkling of the eye, or even nearer. Truly! Allâh is Able to do all things.

    PLZ BEHAVE/BRING/CLAIM LOGIC/TRUSTFUL/BELIEVABLE ARGUMENTS,BEC'S ,PEOPLE HERE WATCHING ,THEY HAVE SENSE ORGANS & BRAIN,NOT A BLIND BELIEVERS & NOT A BRAIN DEAD ZOMBIE'S……………

  88. I BELIEVE ,IAM TRUE MUSLIM ,THAT MEANS I AM THE ENEMY THREE TYPES PEOPLE:

    1) TERRORIST [WHO DID SUICIDE BOMBING ],HIJACKING PLANE,BOMB BLAST,KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR MAKING MONEY & SOME POLITICAL INTEREST & FOR SOME PHYSICAL EARNING & PERSONAL GRUDGE & FOR WORSHIP PEOPLE ……………… WITH/WITHOUT RELIGIOUS NAME………………….

    2) : THE PEOPLE WHO BEHIND TERRORIST ACTIVITIES,WHO MAKE THEM ,GIVE THEM MONEY , WEAPON,ETC………………. FOR KILLING PEOPLE ………………………

    3) THE PEOPLE SPREADING THESES TERRORIST ACTIVITIES,THROUGH THEIR PEN,VOICE,MEDIA,& SITES & SAYS A LIE THAT " ISLAM BEHIND THIS ACTIVITIES " …………………

  89. THE PURPOSE & REASON FOR THE FIGHT WAS MORAL ,PLZ READ THE SITUATION ALLHA ORDER THE FIGHT http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/art

    Why are non-Muslims not allowed in the Holy cities of Makkah and Madinah?

    1. All citizens are not permitted in the cantonment area
    I am a citizen of India. Yet, I am not permitted to enter certain restricted areas
    like the cantonment. In every country there are certain areas where a common
    citizen of that country cannot enter. Only a citizen who is enrolled in the military
    or those who are connected with the defence of the country are allowed in the
    cantonment area. Similarly Islam is a Universal Religion for the entire world and
    for all human beings. The cantonment areas of Islam are the two holy cites of
    Makkah and Madinah. Here only those who believe in Islam and are involved in
    the defence of Islam i.e. the Muslims are allowed.
    It would be illogical for a common citizen to object against the restriction on
    entering a cantonment area. Similarly it is not appropriate for non-Muslims to
    object against the restriction on non-Muslims against entering Makkah and
    Madinah.
    2. Visa to enter Makkah and Madinah
    a. Whenever a person travels to a foreign country he has to first apply for a
    visa i.e. the permission to enter that country. Every country has its own
    rules, regulations and requirements for issuing a visa. Unless their critera
    are satisfied they will not issue a visa.
    b. One of the countries which is very strict in issuing a visa is the United States
    of America, especially when issuing visas to citizens of the third world. They
    have several conditions and requirements to be fulfilled before they issue a
    visa.
    c. When I visited Singapore, it was mentioned on their immigration form –
    death to drug traffickers. If I want to visit Singapore I have to abide by the
    rules. I cannot say that death penalty is a barbaric punishment. Only if I
    agree with their requirements and conditions will I be permitted to enter the
    country.
    d. The Visa – The primary condition required for any human being to enter
    Makkah or Madina is to say with his lips, La ila ha illallah Muhammed ur
    Rasulullah meaning that ‘there is no God but Allah and Muhammed (pbuh)
    is His Messenger.’

    What is the place of the NON MUSLIMS in Islam?

    According to Islam, the righteous people from the Jews and Christians will have their Great Reward from Allah Almighty and will enter Paradise. Let us look at the following Noble Verses:

    "And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book [Jews and Christians], those who believe in God, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to God: They will not sell the Signs of God for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and God is swift in account. (The Noble Quran, 3:199)"

    "Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] are a portion that stand (For the right): They rehearse the Signs of God all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. (The Noble Quran, 3:113-114)"

    "Those who believe (in the Quran), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. (The Noble Quran, 2:62)"

    "Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to God and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. (The Noble Quran, 2:112)"

    "Those who believe, and do deeds of righteousness, and establish regular prayers and regular charity, will have their reward with their Lord: on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. (The Noble Quran, 2:277)"

  90. HERE WE SAY THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO EVIDENCE FOR THEIR CLAIM……………….FOOL, IGNORANT,MAD ,ETC…………………….

  91. THE T NOT "somebody's opinion " ………….FROM THE CHRISTIAN/JEW AUTHORIZED TEXT FROM THE LINK PROVED THE ARABS FROM ISHMAEL…………..EVEN CHRISTIAN /JEW AGREED IT………..WHAT MORE EVIDENCE REQUIRED FOR MY DEAR HINDU………..? PLZ STUDY THE ARABS HISTORY ,WHEN U GOT A FREE TIME ,THAT WILL LEAVE U'R IGNORANCE /FOOLISHNESS FROM U'R BRAIN …………………..

    HERE THE SOLID EVIDENCE THAT WHO R THE REAL Ishmaelites,PLZ STUDY THE HISTORY WELL ,THEN COME TO HERE FOR DEBATE US: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmaelites http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_people

    MY QURAN SAYS A PROPHET MASEEH,ISA[A] BEING DIVINE ,THAT NOT A CHRISTIAN BIBLE PROPHESIED CRUSADE JESUS…………………………

  92. Shabby,
    You are exhibiting the typical muhammadan childishness. If Muhammad was so highly favored, why did the house of the uncle he lived with, after the death of his grandfather, wallow in penury so much that Muhammad had to look for employment at an early age? He started as a goatherd. Why was he an orphan at such a tender age? Such a favored person should have had the best of everything from cradle to the casket. But it was not so with Muhammad. To you highway robbery is favor for that was how Muhammad was able to put a meal on the table after leaving Mecca.Ibn Ishaq 510:" WHEN THE APOSTLE OF ALLAH LOOKED DOWN HE SAID, 'O ALLAH, LORD OF THE HEAVENS AND WHAT THEY OVERSHADOW, AND LORD OF THE DEVILS AND WHAT UNTO ERROR THEY THROW, AND LORD OF THE WINDS AND WHAT THEY WINNOW, WE ASK THEE FOR THE BOOTY OF THIS TOWN AND ITS PEOPLE–'-HE USED TO SAY THIS OF EVERY TOWN HE RAIDED".
    Ishaq 580:"WE HELPED ALLAH'S APOSTLE–WE CARRIED HIS FLAG ON THE END OF OUR LANCES–ALLAH RICHLY REWARDED THAT FINE PROPHET".
    The next time humanity encountered such a fiend was with the advent of Hitler. Any sensible person would be ashamed to be associated with a man who was a professional thief, murderer and other unspeakable crimes. No, not the muhammadan. He sees what Muhammad did as proof of his prophethood.
    You talk about Muhammad being truthful! Well, let us see. Khaddijah's legal guardian hated the gut of Muhammad and was vehemently opposed to his niece marrying such a nonentity. With the connivance of Khaddijah and Warraqqa, Muhammad got the man deadly drunk and in that state of drunken stupor they performed the rite of acceptance on the man. When he came to and realized what had been done, he was forced to accept the marriage, shameful to him as it was. Legally, such a union was not valid since the man, whose duty it was to give consent, was not in a lucid state when the rites were performed.
    As for vested interest in Muhammad's work, it was to be used in blindfolding people into believing that he was truly a prophet. First, he convinced Abu Bakr into giving him a 6 yr old near toddler in marriage. But before then, he employed it to trick Khaddijjah into giving him freedom over her wealth. He used it to deprive people of their properties and wives. It was an instrument of money making for him as he plundered each town and territory. Like the Byzantine emperor said, Muhammad did not introduce anything new except violence.

  93. Shabby,
    You are quoting your dumb 'prophet' as advocating the non enslavement of only muhammadans. But to him it was perfect to put non muslims in chains. Allah very eagerly sanctioned slavery.In sura 16:76 allah forbids that a slave and the master should be equal. Allah forbids slaver from taking their saves as partners and sharing the gifts he/it has given them equally with the slaves in sura 30:28. Sex slavery is instituted by allah as he/it grants approval for muhammadans to have sex with their captive women. Even in modern times, muhammadan clerics are still calling for the jihad so that they can capture, enslave and sell the vanquished.
    The age of enlightenment will never dawn on the muhammadan. That is why he keeps referring to the Old Testament to justify his abominable acts without realizing that, the Jews, who were given those orders, abandoned them thousands of years before Muhammad.
    St. Paul taught that in Jesus "THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GENTILE, MALE OR FEMALE, BONDMAN(SLAVE) OR FREEMAN". The Holy Bible teaches us that we will all give account of our deeds when we appear before the judgment seat of God. That is why the Western world abolished slavery way back in the early 19th century whereas it is regarded as allah's blessing in the muslim world. Saudi Arabia paid lip service to ending slavery as recently as 1962. But it is going on to the knowledge of the authorities who turn a blind eye. Millions of Sudanese have been enslaved and some have been ransomed with huge amounts by Christian groups. Mauritania has no problems on slavery; so the issue of abolishing it there does not arise. The Arabs are enslaving the indigenous Africans even though they are muhammadans.
    All these examples are taken from allah's best of creation ,Muhammad, who knew all evil. If Aisha alone could set free 40 slaves in one day, then it is impossible to conjecture how many the brainless fool had in his entire household.
    The quran commands that a man can beat his wife but not as much as he beats his slave. That tells you the condition of a slave in islam.
    SLAVERY IS ALLAH'S "BLESSING TO THE MUHAMMADAN".

  94. //and that became ISLAM… //
    Thats no proof. Thats somebody's opinion and nothing more. There is no proof from the Old Testament or any ancient book that the Quraish were from Ishmael. The consensus among your own Arabian Geneologist of the 12th/13th century AD is that only the Musta 'Ribah (Arabized Arabs) are descendant from Ishmael. The pure Arabs are Qahtanites who migrated from Yemen.

    //HOW CAN IT SAYS TO BE DIVINE? //
    Well, your own Quran says he is divine. Why a further more will be required. Or do you admit that it is an error in Quran? Jesus was believed to be born of a virgin so Joseph is anyway not his father.
    Point is Muhammad doesn't even have a geneology that conforms to the Messianic prophecies.

  95. So shabeer,did you ever find out who killed that mosquito you were so concerned about?

  96. ISLAM FOR LIBERATION OF SLAVERY: http://islamicslavery1.blogspot.in/
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 46 :: Hadith 693
    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    The Prophet said, "Whoever frees a Muslim slave, Allah will save all the parts of his body from the (Hell) Fire as he has freed the body-parts of the slave." Said bin Marjana said that he narrated that Hadith to 'Ali bin Al-Husain and he freed his slave for whom 'Abdullah bin Ja'far had offered him ten thousand Dirhams or one-thousand Dinars.

    Which has more value, a slave or an animal?

    Let us look at Exodus 23:12 "Six days do your work, but on the seventh day do not work, so that your ox and your donkey may rest and the slave born in your household, and the alien as well, may be refreshed."
    Leviticus 25:44-46 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves……….. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."

    JUST COMPARE TWO VERSES:
    "If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property. (From the NIV Bible, Exodus 21:20-21)"

    "Zadhan reported that Ibn Umar called his slave and he found the marks (of beating) upon his back. He said to him: I have caused you pain. He said: No. But he (Ibn Umar) said: You are free. He then took hold of something from the earth and said: There is no reward for me even to the weight equal to it. I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who beats a slave without cognizable offence of his or slaps him, then expiation for it is that he should set him free. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4079)"

  97. One : Muhammad (e) had been, upto the age of forty, the most
    favoured man among the Arabs. It was because he had claimed that
    the Qur'an was divinely inspired and that the commandments within it
    are to be adhered to, that he was hated; osctracized; and forced to
    flee from his hometown.
    Two : Even among his bitterestt opponents there was unanimity
    about the truthfulness of Muhammad(e). It is difficult, therefore, to
    believe that after living forty years of his life with utmost truthfulness,
    he should venture to declare a falsehood in the name of the Lord
    Creator and that he should have risked his own life for the sake of its
    propagation.
    Three : Men of letters were accorded a high status in Arabia.
    There was not the slightest dissenting opinion among any, as regards
    the lofty position of the Qur'an in its viability as a literary creation. If
    he had ventured to claim the Qur'an as his own work, he would have
    gained great respectability and status amongst the Arabs.
    Four : There are references in the Qur'an which have criticized
    certain of the actions of Muhammad (e) himself.
    Five : There are also other references in the Qur’an which
    reproach Muhammad (e) in the strongest possible terms.
    It should be in the light of these facts that the pros and cons of
    the argument that the Qur'an is the work of Muhammad (e) should
    be examined.
    Indeed, if a work of great literary merit is composed and is then
    attributed to the name of God, there must necessarily exist vested
    interests that lurk beneath. To expose those vested interests will then
    be the duty of the critics. It will be on the basis of such an exposition
    alone that the truth of the claim can be ascertained.

  98. THE QUR'AN AND LITERATURE

    The content, style and language of the Qur'an are all, in
    themselves, wonderful. It was into the midst of the greatest exponents
    of Arabian literature that the Qur'an was revealed. The poetry of
    fourteen centuries past are, to this day, hailed as the masterpieces of
    Arabian literature. It was through an illiterate person from amongst
    them that the world first heard of the Qur'an. As for him, he was one
    who had shown not the slightest inclination towards literature upto the
    age of forty. There were also no questions raised about the undoubtedly,
    excellent quality of the style of the Qur'an by the society into which it
    was revealed. Whether believer or unbeliever, the Arabs were all
    unanimous in their recognition of the lofty standard of the style and
    language of the Qur'an. The unbelievers, for their part, had only
    refrained from accepting its divine nature by resorting to allegations
    that it was sorcery and the words of the Devil himself.
    It is pertinent, here, to note the words of Waleed bin Mughira,
    a leader of the Quraysh and himself the greatest authority in Arabian
    literature, who, on being asked by Abu Jahl to make a public
    proclamation against the Qur'an, said: “What can I say? Whether it
    be in prose or in poetry, the poems of the Jinns or in any other
    branch of Arabian literature, I possess greater knowledge than
    you. By God! The words brought forth by this man, are such as to
    be incomparable with any of the others. By God, his words possess
    a charming sweetness and a particular beauty all of themselves.
    Moreover, its branches are laden with fruit while its roots are
    firmly entrenched in the soil whence it proceeds. Most certainly,
    therefore, it is superior to all other dicourses. Furthermore, it
    is not possible for any other discourse to show it in poor light.
    It is certain that it will conquer anything comes under its
    influence!”
    It must be remembered that this has been the comment of a
    non-Muslim. Indeed, a finer endorsement of the level of the style and
    language of the Qur'an need not be called for.
    The style of the Qur'an is inimitable. This has been attested by
    even the most modern of the non-Muslim Arab scholars. Observe the
    writing of the orientalist G. Sale.
    “The style of the Qur'an is beautiful, it is adorned with bold
    figures after the eastern taste, enlivened with florid and
    sententious expressions and in many places where the majesty
    and attributes of God are described, sublime and magnificient”
    (G. Sale, The Koran: Commonly called Al-Qur'an, with a preliminary
    discourse, London, 1899, Vol.1, page 47).
    A.J. Arberry, another orientalist, writes thus:
    “The complex prosody, a rich repertory of subtle and
    complicated rhymes had been completely perfected. A vocabulary
    of themes, images, and figures extensive but nevertheless
    circumscribed, was firmly established” (A.J. Arberry, The Qur'an
    interpreted, London 1955, page 11).
    The style, language and content of the Qur'an are all unparalleled;
    all beyond imitation; are all in their refined beauty, exquisite. Anyone
    conversant with Arabic will easily grasp this. Each verse of the Qur'an
    possesses an extreme attraction and a potential so great as to cause a
    transformation in the mind of its listeners. This has been admitted by
    several medieval and modern critics with a reasonable knowledge of
    Arabic.

  99. COMPLETE PART OF HADEETH Muslim :: Book 5 : Hadith 2314

    Abdullah reported: On the day of Hunain, the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) showed preference (to some) People in the distribution of the spoils. He bestowed on Aqra' b. Habis one hundred camels, and bestowed an equal (number) upon 'Uyaina, and bestowed on people among the elites of Arabia, and pre. ferred them) (to others) on that day, in the distribution (of spoils). Upon this a person said: By Allah, neither justice has been done In this distribution (of spoils), nor has the pleasure of Allah been sought in it. I (the Narrator ) said: By Allah, I will certainly inform the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) about it. so I came to him and informed him about what he had said. – The colour of his (the Prophet's) face changed red like blood and he then said: Who would do justice, if Allah and His Messenger do not do justice? He further said: May Allah have mercy upon Moses; he was tormented more than this, but he showed patience. I said: Never would I convey him (the Holy Prophet) after this (unpleasant) narration.

  100. [Manumission of Slaves
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 46
    A CHAPTER IS THERE IN BUKARI,PLZ READ ALL HADETH FROM IT ,U CAN UNDERSTAND THE ISLAMIC VIEWS OF SLAVERY

    EX)FIRST HADEETH FROM IT
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 46 :: Hadith 693
    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    The Prophet said, "Whoever frees a Muslim slave, Allah will save all the parts of his body from the (Hell) Fire as he has freed the body-parts of the slave." Said bin Marjana said that he narrated that Hadith to 'Ali bin Al-Husain and he freed his slave for whom 'Abdullah bin Ja'far had offered him ten thousand Dirhams or one-thousand Dinars.
    http://islamicslavery1.blogspot.in/

  101. [Tabaqat V. 1 p. 2] NOT TRUSTFUL AUTHORITY ………………….

    TRUSTFUL AUTHORITY SAYS “O mankind!
    We created you from a single (pair) of male and female and
    made you into nations and tribes that you may know each other.
    Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of God is the most
    righteous of you and God has full knowledge and is well acquainted’’
    (Qur’an 49:13).

  102. GOD PROMISED TO MAKE A NATION FROM HAGAR AND ABRAHAM
    and that became ISLAM…

    DETAILED HISTORY ,FOR EVIDENCE PLZ http://www.mostmerciful.com/js-md1.htm

    EVEN JESUS GOSPEL WRITERS DON'T KNOW WHO R THE FATHER OF JOSEPH ?

    HOW CAN IT SAYS TO BE DIVINE?

  103. @Shabeer,
    Jesus still has a geneology, Muhammad has none. He can't trace his lineage from Abraham and so can't even claim to be a Messiah. Jesus at least is a descendant of King David on both tracks and thus satisfies the Messianic prophecies of being a Messiah!! Moreover the purpose of Matthew and Luke is different. What more geneology can also be traced from the maternal line. Point of the matter is Muhammad doesn't qualify to the Messianic prophecies!!!

  104. @Shabeer,
    //BROTHER I SAYS ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR OF THE PERSONAL//
    Where did I talk about nations. I mentioned "Americans and Western European human welfare societies" which donate money when natural calamities hit other countries, even Islamic ones like Pakistan.

    //THE DECISION FOR PAK NOT FOR MUSLIM INTEREST ,IT PROMOTE THE BRITISH & HINDU RACIST//
    Don't teach me history. Partition of India was neither a British policy nor was it being pursued by the INC. The Lahore Resolution was convened by the Muslim League. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lahore_conference

    //STABLISHING A NEW COUNTRIES IS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PARENTS GOVT,BEC'S PARENT COUNTRIES GOING ON WITH THEIR WEALTH//
    When the 'Child' just after birth attacks the parent and still the parent parts with funds to help the 'child' it is KHAIRAT.

  105. JUST ONE QUESTION:

    Genealogy of Jesus claim by Mathews and Luke are different.

    Father of Joseph yakube born 24th generation of sons of Salomon (Mathew1:6 to 16)

    Father of Joseph heli 39th generation of sons of Nathan (Luke 3:23 to 31)

    There are two contradictions:

    1)24th generation (Mathew), 39th generation (Luke)
    2) Who was father of Joseph? Yakube (Mathew), heli (Luke)

    What is the truth? What we believe?
    From the gospel the only thing is Either Joseph has two fathers Or Luke or Mathew layer

  106. BROTHER I SAYS ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR OF THE PERSONAL,NOT THE NATIONS ,US , EUROPE GIVE THE MONEY TO PAK BEC'S ,THEY NEED PAK SILENCE/SUPPORT FOR THEIR ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES…. …………

    £India which 'donated' 650 million rupees to Pakistan in 1947………..BEFORE THE INDEPENDENCE,THEY LIVE TOGETHER ,THE DECISION FOR PAK NOT FOR MUSLIM INTEREST ,IT PROMOTE THE BRITISH & HINDU RACIST, ESTABLISHING A NEW COUNTRIES IS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PARENTS GOVT,BEC'S PARENT COUNTRIES GOING ON WITH THEIR WEALTH ,THAT MEANS ITS THEIR MONEY ,NOT A ZAKATH FROM KAFIR:

  107. Shabby, you said "HERE PEOPLE CRITICIZE ISLAM WITHOUT PROPER EVIDENCE FROM SCRIPTURES……". Which scripture are you talking about? The quran is its own judge. Jesus taught us to love our neighbors irrespective of creed or circumstance. But the quran says love only muhammadans and hate unbelievers. Jesus taught that we should not hurt another person. But the quran says unbelievers are to be exterminated. The Torah says there should be no vengeance. But the quran harps on retaliation. God taught love but allah does not know anything like love. The quran says you should follow the earlier revelations. Since the quran contradicts the earlier revelations, it stands condemned and rejected. PERIOD.

  108. Shabby, what evidence outside the quran is there to show that it is a divine scripture? Its testimony is like that of a criminal who testifies for himself. Muslims believe in corroboration but as far as the quranic claims and those of Muhammad's prophethood are concerned there is no affirmation. Therefore, they stand rejected for failing even the muhammadan standard.
    The quran has been changed severally after the corrupted compilation by Uthman. The shiites will confirm this as do the sunnis who accuse the Saudi royalty of changing some provisions to suit their fancies. Even during Muhammad's days changes were done by his scribes who wrote what they felt and he accepted.
    If hate, murder and plundering could be called "the path of right conduct", then the quran has done a good job which "is faultless". Zakir Naik says that every muhammadan should be a terrorist.
    It is practicable as a hate and terrorism manual. Nothing more.
    Its faultless history is exemplified by the 7 sleepers whose duration in the cave allah did not even know. Its honest history can be found in the haphazard lifting of fables which are passed as 'revelations'.
    On Its 'incomparable literature', Theodor Noldeke said:"REVELATIONS OF THE KIND WHICH MUHAMMAD UTTERED, NO UNBELIEVER COULD PRODUCE WITHOUT MAKING HIMSELF A LAUGHINGSTOCK".
    If only you can mention which of the quranic prophecies has come true.
    Such references as mountains serving as pegs to stabilize the earth or the sun setting in murky waters are utter nonsense and not worth anybody wasting his time to consider.
    The quran is replete with innumerable scientific nonsense. One of such is the fetus being formed from blood clot. Scientists scoff at this.
    The quran is the embodiment of contradictions. In how many days did God create the world and what was the order of creation? Read the various accounts in the quran and you will know the meaning of confusion.
    On none having taken up the challenge, anyone who would have tried it in Muhammad's days would have been declared "THE ENEMY OF ALLAH AND HIS APOSTLE". The rajam judgment would have been executed on him. Poets and poetesses were killed for merely satirizing Muhammad. A challenge to his 'revelation' would have been unpardonable. On this same issue, Abu Bakr Muhammad al-Razi(865-925) said:"YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A WORK(QURAN) WHICH RECOUNTS ANCIENT MYTHS, AND WHICH AT THE SAME TIME CONTAINS CONTRADICTIONS AND DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY USEFUL INFORMATION AND EXPLANATION. THEN YOU SAY 'PRODUCE SOMETHING LIKE IT'". This pretty much sums up the verdict on the status of the quran.
    The person who brought it was not sure who he was or where he got his message from. He had to be told that he was a prophet before he knew. He declared himself mad and was suicidal. He had no moral fiber or any form of humanity.
    On muhammadanism, Mustapha Kemal Ataturk said:"–THIS THEOLOGY OF AN IMMORAL ARAB–IS A DEAD THING. POSSIBLY IT MIGHT HAVE SUITED TRIBES IN THE DESERT. IT IS NO GOOD FOR MODERN, PROGRESSIVE STATE. GOD'S 'REVELATION!'–".
    Above are the answers to cure your ignorance.

  109. Yes, Shabeer, give your "beautiful" teachings to the Taliban and the suicide-bombing Pakistanis. Urgent ! you must go now and save many innocent lives.

  110. this my above gift is for SOB, ha,ha ha.

  111. Ha,ha,ha.In what way you are superior? ,you don't know how to drill the pettroliam from the well ,ha,ha,ha you need others help(infidels especially) We know how to make you our slave (robot) and, also know how to make you eat our excrement thoroughly ,ha,ha,ha.

  112. [youtube 6D7mR21BR7A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D7mR21BR7A youtube] This some Shia has posted so is calling Wahabi as Sunni, which is wrong.

  113. So dear Shabeer Brother! you were telling that there is no caste in Islam and what is Arzal as all are from one father Adam. Anyway brother Abdu Rasul can you see the superiority of this bum dancer also an Arabic ? Is it similar to belly dancing ? and what song is this ?[youtube osv7IvGO-y0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osv7IvGO-y0 youtube][youtube 6D7mR21BR7A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D7mR21BR7A youtube] Hope to see these scenes during the Ghzawa(it is an attack on Kufar and Attacker is called Ghazi)?[youtube QjM7wlw6WtU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjM7wlw6WtU youtube] How good is your Army of Ghazwa ?

  114. There could be a great numbers of illiterate who can say some poetic lines and can be good. Great examples could be so called lower castes Bhakthas(devotees) of Hindus during the medieval periods. Holy Vedas are derived from the term of listening. There were people who use to remember the whole Vedas, Surname of Dube/Dwidi, Tiwari/Trivedi, Chube/Chaturvedi are derived from the people remembering the whole books. They were written down much latter. To know the divine knowledge, one may not have to be literate or illiterate. People reading lots of books may not be wise but person knowing the love becomes wise. One so called lower caste Muslim Saint Kabirdas Ji said. After prolonged meditation, prophet PBUH gained spiritual literacy . It is equal to the Prince Siddhartha becoming the Buddha. His meeting with Al Khidr,(St George) is symbol of something similar to the meeting of Lord Jesus and John The Baptist. But present day Muslims hardy follow the Prophet PBUH . By reading reading and reading the books and getting intellectual teaching from Ulemas(who are the present day Jews, like ass laden with the books). They are totally zero with the spiritual literacy . Such things are common among many so called non Muslim religious preacher also.

  115. Is Prophet PBUH,"yours" or of the God ? Is your own entity your own or of Allah SWT? Who is Rabbil Alameen ?

  116. if i say i'm illiterate and still can reply your comment, would your believe that these are the words of god and i'm gods prophet? and Qur'an is grammatically weird even for the standards of Arabic Language. and there are five words which do not have any meaning. why? because muhammad just drew some lines which did not make any meaning. why would god not tell his prophet the meaning of some words? this is because muhammad just made those words by himself. My brother, you should come out of your circular logic.

  117. In the words of Dr. Ali Sina " If we find God, it will not be the Allah of Muhammad. We cannot prove that God does not exist, but we can prove that Allah is the figment of the imagination of a mentally deranged man."

  118. _// you are so proud of being an Arab why don't you get lost from India//
    Because After Gazwa-e-Hind king of Indian subcontinent will be an Arabs. Indian origin Muslim have not guts to run the country properly. So, I have also chances to be ruler of India because of my Arabic origin. We will act and rule in India as per directions of the king of Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arbia is center of Islam all country will have to follow the instructions & guidelines as per Saudi Arabia to run the country. That will be highest state of ruling. In India perhaps Ali Garh University which has flag resemble to Islamic nations and they do not sing even national anthem of India because it belongs to non-believer (Hindu culture and origin) but we need to implement same laws in every school, universities and institutions.

  119. @Slave,
    If you are so proud of being an Arab why don't you get lost from India? And please close the door on your way out!!

  120. @Shabeer,
    Do you or do you not agree that what I have posted earlier is from Quran? If yes, then Sina's point is proven irrespective of whether he quoted the correct verse numbers!!

  121. Undoubtedly We Arbas are superior because we are true believer in prophet & Allah. I am also from Arabic origin. My Great father came in India around 1905 from Arabia Land. And due to superiority as per Islam, the ruler of Muslim Ummah – the Caliph should be a Quraish
    Sahih Bukhari 8.82.817:
    …After a pause he (Abu Bakr) said, ‘O Ansar! You deserve all (the qualities that you have attributed to yourselves, but this question (of Caliphate) is only for the Quraish as they are the best of the Arabs as regards descent and home, and I am pleased to suggest that you choose either of these two men, so take the oath of allegiance to either of them as you wish. …

  122. @Shabeer,
    Here is another Hadith:
    Shahi Muslim
    Book 005, Number 2314:
    Abdullah reported: On the day of Hunain, the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) showed preference (to some) People in the distribution of the spoils. He bestowed on Aqra' b. Habis one hundred camels, and bestowed an equal (number) upon 'Uyaina, and bestowed on people among the elites of Arabia, and pre. ferred them) (to others) on that day, in the distribution (of spoils).

  123. Shabby, the quran does say that if Muhammad had lied, then allah would have severed his aorta. In sura 6:97 the quran talks about evil men going through the tribulations of the agony of death. Guess what! Muhammad, during his sickness, complained about his aorta burning as if it was to be severed. Proof that he lied. Then he prayed to be saved from the same tribulations of the agony of death. Unequivocal proof that he was an evil man.
    Shabby, don't you ever wonder why 'the best creature' would be abandoned by the creator when he was facing death, to the point that allah refused to hear his/its messengers prayers for recovery even when Muhammad enlisted Gabriel, the muhammadan holy spirit, to intercede?
    These should warn you that there was something wrong with Muhammad.

  124. @I-HATE-ISLAM
    //Just as an aside,it strikes me that you are not the author of that part of your comment in lower cast//
    It is very apparent. Shabeer's English is pathetic, in fact pedestrian, so when he publishes a comment with such exotic words as "parochialism" and "smithereens" you can be sure that he is copy pasting.

  125. Shabby, muhammadans have been celebrating their 'victory' because of Michael H. Hart's claim that Muhammad was the most influential political figure in history. In their blind adoration of Hart, muhammadans actually acknowledge that the quran represents the ideas of Muhammad. Hart wrote:"THE QURAN, THEREFORE REPRESENTS MUHAMMAD'S IDEAS AND TEACHINGS AND TO A CONSIDERABLE EXTENT HIS EXACT WORDS". Muslims claim that the quran is the infallible word of allah. But when they celebrate what Michael Hart wrote, they are openly admitting that allah was Muhammad whose ideas, teachings and words are the content of the quran. It gives me a very big laugh.

  126. Shabby, I thank Dr Sina for his contribution. In al-Mustadrik and Fayd al-Ghadir Muhammad said:"LOVE THE ARABS FOR THREE THINGS: BECAUSE I AM AN ARAB,THE QURAN IS IN ARABIC AND THE LANGUAGE OF PARADISE IS ARABIC". When Muhammad described an Ethiopian as having a head like raisin, was he equating the Ethiopian to an Arab? You have already said that it is only when it comes to muhammadanisn that all peoples are equal. Outside of that some are regarded as superior to others. Even within the faith, there is inequality as the sunnis claim precedence over the other sects and vice versa. There are blacks in Saudi Arabia, who are muslims, if they are equal to the Arabs, when will one of them be made king or even minister?
    I am an African and I have heard tales of how blacks are treated in Saudi Arabia. A Briton of Somali descent regretted his experiences there. He is, of course,a muslim. This attitude of superiority dates centuries back. Ibn Khaldun wrote:"THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ACCEPT SLAVERY ARE THE NEGROES, OWING TO THEIR LOW DEGREE OF HUMANITY AND THEIR PROXIMITY TO THE ANIMAL STAGE". As if the Arabs were not savages. Till date no muhammadan has repudiated that insane assertion nor admonish ibn Khaldun. You can deceive the uninformed about islam not giving superiority to any race. But some of us know far better than that.
    Just as an aside,it strikes me that you are not the author of that part of your comment in lower cast.Another example of deceit!

  127. Slave, yes he did as did the two captured Christian boys, Yasser and Jabber. These three together with some Jews and Christian monks taught Muhammad the scriptures which he perverted and called 'revelations'.

  128. Did Waraqa Ibn Nawfal Teach The Prophet?

    Assalamu-alaikum wa rahamatullahi wa barakatuhu:

    Waraqa is one of the four men who left the pagan faith of Mecca as mentioned in this article in search for the Hanifite roots ( the religion of Abraham(P)) and returned as a Christian. Even he was claimed to be the source of the Qur'ân. Some missionaries depended on hadîths narrated in Sahih al-Bukhârî:

    Narrated 'Aisha(R): Volume 4, Book 55, Number 605:

    "..The Prophet returned to Khadija while his heart was beating rapidly. She took him to Waraqa bin Naufal who was a Christian convert and used to read the Gospel in Arabic Waraqa asked (the Prophet), "What do you see?" When he told him, Waraqa said, "That is the same angel whom Allah sent to the Prophet) Moses. Should I live till you receive the Divine Message, I will support you strongly."

    The other hadîth is:

    Narrated 'Aisha(R): Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3

    Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Hebrew letters. He would write from the Gospel in Hebrew as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to Waraqa, "Listen to the story of your nephew, O my cousin!" Waraqa asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" Allah's Apostle described whatever he had seen. Waraqa said, "This is the same one who keeps the secrets (angel Gabriel) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your people would turn you out." Allah's Apostle asked, "Will they drive me out?" Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said, "Anyone (man) who came with something similar to what you have brought was treated with hostility; and if I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly." But after a few days Waraqa died.

    Waraqa was an old man and died shortly after Muhammad(P) had received the revelation of the Qur'ân; as clearly can be read from the above hadîth. While the revelation of the Qur'ân continued for more than twenty years after the death of Waraqah bin Nawfal, the Prophet(P) was receiving the revelation in different places and even while he was among his Companions. Also, he was answering direct questions raised later by the Jews in Madinah. In addition, the Jews and the disbelievers of Mecca would be very pleased if they knew for sure that there was a knowledgeable person who was teaching Muhammad(P) the Qur'ân.

    And finally Waraqa himself announced in all of the hadîths reported in Sahih al-Bukhârî that he would support Muhammad(P) strongly if he lived long enough:

    "Should I live till you receive the Divine Message, I will support you strongly."

    "if I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly."

    It is not surprising to see that when these points are brought together, Christian missionaries start to take refuge in the excuses that Waraqa was a heretic or on whose authority he said that he would support Muhammad's(P) prophethood?

  129. @Avika
    "Some people said that Muhammad is illiterate. "

    Muhammad must have been sent to a teacher as a child. He was the grandson of Abdul Muttalib who was a nobility among his people. Everyone of his children, including his daughters were schooled. It make no sense that he would not send Muhammad to school.

    However, it is also clear that Muhammad was an unread and very ignorant man who had not read any book in his entire life. The gross mistakes that he makes almost about everything can only be made by someone who is an illiterate man.

    The only conclusion is that he hated school and did not go like other children to learn reading and writing. The reason he hated it is because he was uncomfortable associating with kids like himself. He suffered from extreme low self esteem and was very anti social when he was young. As a narcissist he could only feel comfortable as a superior to others, never as an equal.

    You can find more details of the psychology of Muhammad in my book Understanding Muhammad.

  130. Can it not be claimed that the Qur'an’s has been but the composition
    of Muhammad (pbuh) himself ?

    Prophet Muhammad (e) had lived in the light of history. It
    was through him that the world first heard of the Qur'an. As such, all
    that may be asserted by those who do not accept the divine status of
    the Qur'an is that it is the composition of Muhammad (e). There are
    however, certain facts that must be understood as the premises for
    this discussion. It can only be on the foundations of these premises
    that the question as to whether the authorship of the Qur'an can be
    attributed to Prophet Muhammad (e) can be discussed.
    One : Muhammad (e) had been, upto the age of forty, the most
    favoured man among the Arabs. It was because he had claimed that
    the Qur'an was divinely inspired and that the commandments within it
    are to be adhered to, that he was hated; osctracized; and forced to
    flee from his hometown.
    Two : Even among his bitterestt opponents there was unanimity
    about the truthfulness of Muhammad(e). It is difficult, therefore, to
    believe that after living forty years of his life with utmost truthfulness,
    he should venture to declare a falsehood in the name of the Lord
    Creator and that he should have risked his own life for the sake of its
    propagation.
    Three : Men of letters were accorded a high status in Arabia.
    There was not the slightest dissenting opinion among any, as regards
    the lofty position of the Qur'an in its viability as a literary creation. If
    he had ventured to claim the Qur'an as his own work, he would have
    gained great respectability and status amongst the Arabs.
    Four : There are references in the Qur'an which have criticized
    certain of the actions of Muhammad (e) himself.
    Five : There are also other references in the Qur’an which
    reproach Muhammad (e) in the strongest possible terms.
    It should be in the light of these facts that the pros and cons of
    the argument that the Qur'an is the work of Muhammad (e) should
    be examined.
    Indeed, if a work of great literary merit is composed and is then
    attributed to the name of God, there must necessarily exist vested
    interests that lurk beneath. To expose those vested interests will then
    be the duty of the critics. It will be on the basis of such an exposition
    alone that the truth of the claim can be ascertained.

  131. @Ali Sina
    I know Islam much batter than you. If anybody refutes my claims that Prophet was best person ever took birth, Islam is only true religion, Muslims are best creature of Allah, Quran is most scientific book of the world, I promise to give 50000 USD who refutes me.

  132. @Shabeer

    "the authority of quran is my almighty god Allah ,he says the first part of the sura yasin [Yaseen the heart of quran,"

    That is circular reasoning. If the Quran say it is the word of God it does not mean it is. It means Muhammad lied again. The Quran is the word of no one but Muhammad who claimed it is the word of God. He was a liar. There is no evidence that the Quran is the word of God. There is plenty of evidence that it is not.

  133. @CHUCK
    MY DEAR BROTHER SINA POST IS MISTAKEN [ VERSES NUMBER ]………I PROVED MY LAST POST ,EVERY HUMAN BEING [THEY HAVE LITTLE BIT BRAIN & SENSE ORGAN] THEY CAN UNDERSTAND MY COMMENTS ,EVEN SINA NEVER TALK ABOUT IT ,THEN WHY R U BEHAVING LIKE JOKER ??

    HERE SOME PEOPLE BLINDLY CRITICIZE ISLAM WITHOUT PROPER EVIDENCE FROM SCRIPTURES …………….

  134. @Intelligent lad
    What your Guru Ali Sina is doing? He has no work and engaged in bashing Islam all the time. It is his profession to criticize Islam and get donation from the non-believers for his livelihood.

  135. @Shabeer
    In the following hadith Muhammad establishes the superiority of Arabs over all other people, then the superiority of his tribe, and clan and family to come down to his own superiority over everyone else.

    Ibn Sa’d reports Muhammad say, “Among all the people of the world God chose the Arabs. From among the Arabs he chose the Kinana. From Kinana he chose the Quraish (the tribe of Muhammad). From the Quraish he chose Bani Hashim (his clan). And from Bani Hashim he chose me.” [Tabaqat V. 1 p. 2]

    You obviously have never been in an Arab country to see how they look down at you and treat you like an inferior being.

  136. the authority of quran is my almighty god Allah ,he says the first part of the sura yasin [Yaseen the heart of quran,that means the most important sura from quran

    noble quran

    36:1. Yâ-Sîn.

    2. By the Qur'ân, full of wisdom (i.e. full of laws, evidences, and proofs),

    3. Truly, you (O Muhammad SAW) are one of the Messengers,
    4. On a Straight Path (i.e. on Allâh's religion of Islâmic Monotheism).

    5. (This is) a Revelation sent down by the All­Mighty, the Most Merciful,[no doubt about it]
    6. In order that you may warn a people whose forefathers were not warned, so they are heedless.
    7. Indeed the Word (of punishment) has proved true against most of them, so they will not believe.

    10. It is the same to them whether you warn them or you warn them not, they will not believe.

    11. You can only warn him who follows the Reminder (the Qur'ân), and fears the Most Beneficent (Allâh) unseen. Bear you to such one the glad tidings of forgiveness, and a generous reward (i.e. Paradise).

    The Qur'an is the last scripture that has been revealed to mankind
    by the Lord Creator and Protector. It was through the Last Messenger,
    Muhammad (e), that the world first heard of it. It certainly is the
    divine scripture that is to be accepted by all, upto the very last man.

    Given below is a list of some of the evidences in support of the
    divine nature of the Qur'an:

    1. It , itself, declares that it is a divine Scripture
    2. It shall remain unchanged upto the Last Day.
    3. The path of right conduct that it prescribes is faultless.
    4. It is practicable.
    5. The history that it teaches is faultless and honest.
    6. Its literature is incomparable.
    7. The prophecies made in it can be seen to have come true.
    8. The references in it to the varied phenomena of nature, as
    representing the signs of God, are free of controversies.
    9. There is no reference, whatsoever, of an unscientific nature in it.
    10. It is free of all contradictions.
    11. None has been able to take up the challenge it poses when it calls
    forth all, and any, to produce an equivalent of at least one of its
    chapters.
    12. The person who was appointed with it in the world was himself of
    a truthful and selfless nature.

    more evidence for who r the authority of quran?
    http://www.nicheoftruth.org/pages/responses_home…. http://authorityofquran.blogspot.in/ http://authorityofquran2.blogspot.in/ http://authorityofquran3.blogspot.in/
    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explor

    SECOND PART NOT ANSWERED ,PLZ AVOID THE BLINDLY/EMOTIONAL CRITICIZING ISLAM…………PLZ POST THE CORRECT THE QURANIC VERSES THE…………PLZ GIVE SOME CHANCE TO THINKING /SENSUAL/LOGIC REASON FOR CRITICIZING RELIGION……………….

  137. WHERE IS THE HADITH MY PROPHET SAY ARAB SUPERIOR THAN OTHERS ……………PLZ BRING IT HERE FOR ME………………….

    the only religion on earth promote the complete level Universal Brotherhood:

    The worship of the one and only God frees man from all
    sorts of pettiness and parochialism. The entire human race native
    or foreigners, upper caste or lower caste, white or black, those
    belonging to different castes or families, or those speaking different
    languages are created and sustained by the same God, Who is
    the only God and this thought does away with all sorts of
    untouchability. When the above categories of people bow before
    the Highest and Greatest Entity the forces which divide them are
    shattered into smithereens. When the idea gets round that every
    one is equal before God the false supremacy inherited by different
    sections of the society evaporates. The declaration of Islam
    that all men and women are the creation of the one and only God
    and they are children of the same parents, transformed the people
    of Arabia into a strong society at a time when they were fighting
    against one another for tribal supremacy and superiority, “O mankind!
    We created you from a single (pair) of male and female and
    made you into nations and tribes that you may know each other.
    Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of God is the most
    righteous of you and God has full knowledge and is well acquainted’’
    (Qur’an 49:13). This verse from the Qur’an shattered
    all vainglorious based on tribe, language and colour. Prophet said:
    “An Arab is not superior to a non-Arab nor a white man to black
    except in righteousness’’ (Muslim, Aboodawood). “Your God is
    one and your father is one. All are from Adam. Adam is from
    soil’’ (Muslim, Aboodawood).

  138. Exactly my words @I-HAT-ISLAM.

  139. @avika,
    //Trading had existed a long time before writing was invented//
    Trading may or may not predate Writing. But existence of writing or the lack of it has no bearing to literacy vis a vis the period that we might be talking of. What I mean is, suppose we are in 6000 BC and writing is yet to be invented (apparently writing dates to around 4500 BC). At this point of time while trading may be done, it doesn't require one to know writing to do it well (because it is yet to be invented). However if we are in 600 AD, since writing is already invented and trading requires, especially multi-national commercial ventures require, that people communicate, record and transact it seems illogical that such trading won't involve written material and a person with absolute NO knowledge of words and numbers would be even moderately successful.

  140. Trading started because of communications ,in the beginning it was bartered system,however language was needed as a tool for communication . communications begin with the advent of language and, the last leg was writing or documentation of thoughts(bringing communications into practicality through script) .If there is no means of writing ( pen and paper and of course how to use them),does that make any man illiterate.Barter system was a prerogative of an illiterate bargainer that's all and ,rest is history .However this MAD MOHAMMED was totally illiterate in every aspect that is a truth and,will always remained till eternity ,that is certain.

  141. @ Kirana,
    Please check your email inbox

  142. Hi Mr.Sina,

    Thank you, I'd love to get that pdf version and I'll get your book for him (the good thing is he likes reading)

  143. Hi Kirana,

    You did the right choice leaving your Muslim boyfriend. However, if he is a good man and his family are good and sincere people, you should send him my book. I can send you the 4th edition in pdf. If he reads it he will leave Islam. If he leaves Islam he is as good as a new person. There is nothing wrong with Muslims as people. We are all made from the same stuff. It is this religion that makes them diseased and act like insane people.

  144. Slave, there were no universities in Arabia of Muhammad's time. Even skilled labor was carried out by non Arabs like the rebuilding of the kaaba which was done by an Egyptian Copt. But that is not to say that there was no kind of formal education. Warraqa, Khadijja's cousin, was able to translate some parts of the New Testament from Hebrew and Greek to Arabic. Muhammad acquired some bit of education. In one of the hadiths, it is said that on his death bed, he had asked for writing materials to write down the name of his successor but his strength failed him before the writing materials were brought. Why was an illiterate looking for writing materials? Could he not just have made the pronouncement in the presence of witnesses and that would have sufficed? Still in another hadith, it is reported that when Aisha was told that Muhammad left Ali in his will as his successor, she retorted:"WHEN DID HE WRITE THAT WILL?". Why did she not ask, 'who wrote the will for him?'. An illiterate is someone who cannot read or write in any language. As far as Muhammad is concerned, he could read and write. The talk of his being an illiterate was invented to mask his having plagiarized earlier works in the name of 'revelation' so that it could be said that one who could neither read nor write lacked the capacity to copy from others. Muhammadans should try harder and invent another lie for this one has been exposed.

  145. @I-HATE-ISLAM : Mr.Sina is right. Indeed we're all vulnerable when it comes to Islam deception. But it doesn't mean we loose our sense. we just need to make up our mind and be strong, use our rational thinking and start with reasons. It's really hard but we live in the world where we can get as much as information we need, and it's really helping (actually many testimonies I read on FFI and this site which really opened my eyes and helping to make the decision). As for you question, I don't loose my faith, I just left church :)

  146. @Mr.Sina,

    Thank you for your advice. I've made up my mind actually, now matter what I feel now, life is long journey, and I want to live it right in my own way. I know there's a point in our life we should face hard choice, it's not about what I choose is right or wrong, but it should be what's best for me, what's suited me well. Sometimes that choice is very hard and hurt, but we must keep moving on. And that's what I chose, I left him for good since few months ago. We're kind of friends now. He's a good man, and his family are very sincere Indonesian despite their religion. It's very hard to convince him to see the real Islam, but we should never loose our hope to bring back these good people back, free from this poisonous religion, right? What you and others like you do are very inspirational and brave, you don't know it gives us hope and encourage. I shared a comment here in hope that Eric can help his brother, I really hope he can get his brother back. Again, Terima Kasih Mr.Sina

  147. @Slave of Prophet,
    Quran 29:48 (Yusuf Ali): And thou vast not (able) To recite a Book before This (Book came), nor art thou (Able) to transcribe it With thy right hand: In that case, indeed, would The talkers of vanities Have doubted.
    It doesn't say that he was illiterate.

  148. I think it is pretty clear that Slave of Prophet is not a Muslim but a Hindu or Christian Just enjoying bashing Islam. Muslims call themselves slaves of Allah not slaves of prophet. We should just let Muslims answer hm.

  149. @Chuck and Avika
    Prophet was illiterate here are proofs

    Allaah, The Most-High, sent down the message to His Prophet, Muhammad, who was illiterate and could neither read nor write. Allaah The Almighty Says (what means): {And you did not recite before it any scripture, nor did you inscribe one whatsoever with your right hand. Then [i.e. otherwise] the falsifiers would have had [cause for] doubt.} [Quran, 29: 48]

    007.157 "Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (Scriptures)– in the Law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him, – it is they who will prosper."

  150. @chuck: Trading had existed a long time before writing was invented. It mean a illiterate man can conduct trades.
    @Slave:
    I don't like him, not because he is illiterate (there are illiterate peoples that are good and kind), but because of what he did.

  151. //He did not know how to read and write.//
    You have any proof of that? He used to transact business (trading etc) for a business-women called Khadija who married him afterwards. even before this he used to travel to far off places in trade trips and was somewhat successful to. Only a foolish person would think that a man with NO knowledge of words and numbers could have been conducting trades. True, considering his humble beginnings it looks likely that he may not have had great institutional education, but he couldn't have been totally illiterate either. Its a lie muslims of today like spreading.

  152. @Avika
    It is fact prophet (PBUH) never went to any school /university and He did not know how to read and write.

  153. Some people said that Muhammad is illiterate.

  154. @Poor Ali Sina
    I am not awakened to read your comment. There are many people on the earth like you having mental disorder. As you say Gorilla your cousin, Hindu also claim cow is most beneficial animal of the world and they go so far and claim scientific benefit of cow dung, urine and milk and worship the cow as most holiest animal but that does not change the fact that Allah created such animals so that we could consume their flesh nothing more than it.
    Here is proof
    [6:142]
    Some livestock supply you with transportation, as well as bedding materials. Eat from GOD's provisions to you, and do not follow the steps of Satan; he is your most ardent enemy.

  155. Dr Sina, you are quite right. One has to be on his/her toes always while interacting with a muslim.

  156. Shabby, no book, no religion upholds egalitarianism more than the Bible and Christianity for we are taught that if one has two coats and his brother has none the one who has should give to the other who doesn't. That is why the Western countries are so generous as Chuck has pointed out. They rush massive humanitarian aid to disaster affected areas while the muhammadan nations sponsor destruction.

  157. @Shabeer,
    //ALLHA TESTING THE MOST BELIEVER HIGHER THAN THE NORMAL BELIEVERS//
    That means Allah is a paranoid entity who knows that the more 'truly muslim' a person is the more likely he is to do immoral, unethical activities. But why test, isn't he/she/it supposed to know all?

  158. @Shabeer,
    //THAT THE QUALITY OF KAFIR WHO LOVE THIS TOO MUCH ,THEY NEVER GIVING TO POOR PEOPLE//
    Kafirs like the Americans and Western European human welfare societies which donate huge amounts of money to disaster hit countries like Pakistan. Never heard of Saudi or Iran to donate money to Pakistan for example. Kafir nations like India which 'donated' 650 million rupees to Pakistan in 1947 so that they kick start their economy (and use a part of that money to attack Kashmir!!).

  159. @shabeer,
    Its you whose foolishness is repeatedly exposed. See you didn't proof that Quran doesn't say that, you just showed a mistake from Sina. So quran 9:28 does say that "the Mushrikûn are Najasun " and 9:29 says "fight those who don’t believe in Allah and the Last Day".
    So Sina is right in what he is saying that Quran has these hate verses.

  160. ALLHA TESTING THE MOST BELIEVER HIGHER THAN THE NORMAL BELIEVERS,THAT MEANS ALLHA EXAMINE THE TRUE BELIEVERS TOO…………………………..SO THAT PROPHET SUFFERING MORE THAN US…………….

  161. THAT THE QUALITY OF KAFIR WHO LOVE THIS TOO MUCH ,THEY NEVER GIVING TO POOR PEOPLE ,THINKING ABOUT THEM SELF,THEY R NOT RESPONSIBILITY TO PEOPLE ……………….BUT A MUSLIM NOT LIKE THAT ,HE ETE SHORT REST OF THEM HE GIVE TO POOR ,HE NEVER BOTHERED ABOUT HIS ASSET,BEC'S HE LOVE ALLHA PARADISE MORE THAN HIS HERE LIFE……………..

  162. #He urged his followers not to associate with their fathers and brothers if they don’t convert to Islam (9:23)
    23. O you who believe! Take not for Auliyâ' (supporters and helpers) your fathers and your brothers if they prefer disbelief to Belief. And whoever of you does so, then he is one of the Zâlimûn (wrong-doers, etc.).
    HERE THE WORD " Auliyâ " USED FOR “Wali” and “Auliya”. Let me post all those meanings here.

    Wali – protector, helper, friend, guardian, supporter etc

    Auliya – lords, gods, protectors, helpers, guardians, supporters……………………..THE MUSLIM AULIYA SHOULD BE A MUSLIM ,NOT A KAFIR……………………….SUPPOSE WE HAVE TO COMPLETE A PROJECT WHO WHO WAS OUR BOSS IS ANY FOOLISH ,HE DON'T KNOW AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OUR PROJECT SUBJECT OR A PERSON HE TAKEN Ph-D ABOUT IT……………………A MUSLIM AUYLIYA MUST BE A MUSLIM………………….KAFIR AUYLIYA MUST BE A KAFIR………….

    BUT A MUST RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS PARENT& RELATIVE ,HE MUST BE KIND , FULFILL THEIR RESPONSIBILITY & RIGHT[OTHER THAN RELIGIOUS MATTERS]
    Asmaa’ bint Abu Bakr was the Prophet’s sister-in-law. She was the daughter of his closest companion and the sister of Aisha, his wife. Her mother, however, did not become a Muslim for quite a long time.Asmaa’ states: “My mother came to me during the time of the Prophet (Pbuh), hoping to get something from me. I asked the Prophet (Pbuh) whether I should be kind to her. He answered: “Yes,”
    (Related by Al-Bukhari, Muslim and others).
    Qur’an: As for such of the unbelievers as do not fight against you on account of your faith, and neither drive you forth from your homelands, Allah does not forbid you to show them kindness and to behave toward them with full equity. Indeed, Allah loves those who act equitably. (Surah Al-Mumtahinah 60:8)
    It is clear from this Qur’anic verse and the Hadith quoted above that to show kindness to parents who are non-Muslims is also a duty on children, provided that such parents do not fight against Muslims, and do not chase them out of their land. This is further supported by a Hadith which mentions that Umar saw a silk suit being sold in the marketplace. He suggested to the Prophet (Pbuh) to buy it in order to wear it on Fridays and when he received delegations from other tribes. The Prophet (Pbuh) said: “Only a person deprived (of goodness) wears such a suit.”

    Some time later, the Prophet (Pbuh) received a number of similar suits. He sent one to Umar. Umar asked. “How can I wear it when you have said about it what you said?” The Prophet (Pbuh) answered: “I have not given it you to wear it, but to either sell it or give it as a present.” Umar sent it to a friend of his in Makkah who was not a Muslim. This Hadith suggests that kindness to unbelievers is also recommended if they do not take an attitude of active hostility towards Islam.

  163. Shabby, Muhammad also said in your hadiths that every muslim should love the Arabs because he was an Arab, the quran should be left in the Arabic tongue and that the language of paradise was Arabic. Was he not showing the supremacy of Arabs above other races?

  164. Shabby, the quran was written by Muhammad. One of his own scribes said so to his hearing and added that if revelation could come to Muhammad then he might as well claim to be a prophet. Read your sura 1 which is the 'mother of suras', and you will see Muhammad talking. Would any sensible God call on himself to worship himself and be guided by himself along the right path? That is precisely what your sura al-fatiha or the opening is advocating. When allah talks about being guided to avoid getting lost, then he/it cannot be God. The conclusion is that Muhammad was allah and vise versa. Almighty God cannot be lost. Only man can, as Muhammad was.

  165. Dear Shabeer,

    I don't think there is anyone more foolish than the person who things the gibberish written in the Quran is from God. That book of nonsense is from Muhammad. Please use your brain.

  166. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!……………….. ALI SINA FOOLISHNESS EXPOSED ………………..!!!!!!!!!!!
    1)
    #Muhammad said, the polytheists are unclean (Q. 9:27)…………………..

    I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO SINNA?,HE SAY " Muhammad said," HE DON'T KNOW THE BASIC KNOWLEDGE OF ISLAM&QURAN ,THE QURAN FROM ALMIGHTY GOD ALLAH,NOT FROM PROPHET [S]………………………..

    2) THE VERSES FROM NOBLE QURAN 9:27 SAYS " 27. Then after that Allâh will accept the repentance of whom He will. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful……….."HERE WHERE IS MR.SINA QURAN SAYS " polytheists are unclean "??????????????????????/

    PLZ SHOW ME ……………………………….

    3)HE SAYS " fight those who don’t believe in Allah and the Last Day (9:28)."
    ACTUALLY WHAT THE VERSES SAYS "28. O you who believe (in Allâh's Oneness and in His Messenger (Muhammad SAW)! Verily, the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh, and in the Message of Muhammad SAW) are Najasun (impure). So let them not come near Al-Masjid-al-Harâm (at Makkah) after this year, and if you fear poverty, Allâh will enrich you if He will, out of His Bounty. Surely, Allâh is All-Knowing, All-Wise.

    THERE IS NO EVIDENCE HERE FOR "fight those who don’t believe in Allah and the Last Day"

  167. #Muslims love their own children and those close to them……………
    #Islam is full of tales of Muslims raiding and butchering innocent people

    Islam has reaffirmed the racial and ethnic unity of all mankind; the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said:
    ‘For, man is from Adam, and that there is no supremacy of an Arab over a non-Arab and no supremacy of a
    black man over a red man except in piety’
    The wisdom behind dividing people into tribes and nations is nothing more than the creation of variety, so that
    they may come to meet each other in an atmosphere of mutual respect and co-operation, and not for the
    promotion of hostility and difference. Sharing and caring and competing only for righteous deeds and holy
    virtue, competing for the benefit of the masses and individuals and seeking the pleasure of Allah who is the
    Lord of all, and who watches this brotherhood, protects it and calls all his servants to practice and establish it.
    The Holy Qur’an declares all these meanings very clearly when Allah says:
    ‘O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam),
    and from him (Adam) He created His wife (Eve), and from them both He created many
    men and women and fear Allah through whom you demand mutual (rights), and (do
    not cut the relation of) the wombs (kinship). Surely, Allah is watching over you.’
    (The beginning of Surat-an-Nisaa’(4))
    Allah also says:
    ‘O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into
    nations and tribes, That you may know one another. Verily, the most honourable
    among you in the sight of Allah is that (believer) who has piety and righteousness.’
    (Surat-al-Hujuraat (49), ayah 13)
    Prophet Muhammad (may the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) says in his famous sermon during the
    farewell pilgrimage:
    ‘Allah has relieved you from the burden of ignorance with its pride in the fathers and the ancestors. You are all
    from Adam, and Adam is from dust. There is no difference between an Arab and a non-Arab, nor between a
    black man and a red man except in piety"
    He also says:
    ‘He who calls to tribalism is not one of us, nor is he who fought for it, nor is he who died for it.’ (Abu Dawood).
    With this declaration Islam totally forbids racism and tribalism – a trend which is still alive in modern western
    societies.
    Reaffirming the Oneness of Religion
    Islam has reaffirmed the oneness of religion in its general principles which assert that the laws of the almighty
    Allah stand on firm foundations of Imaan (faith), righteous, work and brotherhood. Islam also came to remind us
    all that all of the holy Prophets came with a message from Allah, the High in praise, that all of the heavenly
    books are revelations from Him and that the believers, regardless of their background, are His righteous
    servants deserving of honour in this life and the hereafter. Islam tells us that disunity, fragmentation and hostility
    in the name of religion are a sin totally inconsistent with its teachings and beliefs. The duty of humanity,
    therefore, is to adopt this religion and unite under it. This is the one true path and the natural way for mankind.
    In this regard Allah says in the glorious Qur’an:
    ‘He (Allah) has ordained for you the same religion (Islam) which he ordained for Noah,
    and that which we inspired in you (O Muhammad), and that which we ordained for
    Abraham, Moses and Jesus, saying you should establish religion, and make no
    divisions in it.’
    (Surat-al-Shuraa (43), ayah 15)
    The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) says:
    ’My likeness and that of the other Prophets before me is as the likeness of a man who built a house and did so
    with great perfection, except for a gap in one corner, which he left unfilled. This caused much surprise among
    the people who kept commenting, "Would it not have been better if you would have put a brick in this empty
    space?". It is I who am that missing brick and it is I who am the seal of all the Prophets.’ (Bukhari, Muslim)
    Islam has shown us an unprecedented route in its attempt to unite religions. For it is obligatory upon a believer
    to believe in all the Prophets that preceded Muhammad (PBUH), and every book that came before the Holy
    Qur’an. To respect every law before Islam, and to praise every nation of believers that existed in the past. The
    Holy Qur’an orders this and ordained it for the Prophet and his companions:
    ‘Say (O Muslims), "We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and
    that which has been sent down to Ibraaheem, Ismaa’eel, Ishaaq, Ya’qub, and to
    Al-Asbat, and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no
    distinction between any of them and to Him we have submitted.’
    (Surat-al-Baqarah (2), ayah 136)

  168. SINNER S@Y #Muslims take the side of Muslims. The question about who is at fault is never raised………..

    Faith Is Imperfect without morality
    Faith is such a power that it keeps men away from low attributes and mean acts, and encourages him to achieve high
    attributes and clean morals. That is why whenever Allah called his slaves towards virtue or whenever He wanted them
    to hate evil, He declared it as an essential requirement of the Faith in their hearts. For example when He; in Surah
    Taubah, commands men to adopt righteousness and to speak truth, He addresses them as
    “0 you who have faith” (or “O you who believe”):“0 you, who have faith I Fear Allah and be withthe truthful
    people.”
    (Taubah.. 119)
    Allah's Messenger has nicely explained it that when faith is firm and belief is strong, then strong and lasting moral will
    be developed, and if the moral character is low then faith will accordingly be weak.
    A man, who is immodest and ill-mannered and who adopts bad habits without caring for others, is like the person about
    whom the holy Prophet has said:
    “Modesty and faith are twins. One who gives up one has to lose the other too.”
    Once the Prophet passed by an Ansari who was scolding his brother about his immodesty. The Prophet advised him to
    let him go as modesty was a branch of faith.
    A man who harasses his neighbour and makes him suffer any kind of damage is called cruel and stonehearted by the
    religion. In this connection the decision of the Prophet is :
    “By God, he cannot be a Momin ; by God, he cannot be a Momin; by God, he cannot be a Momin. He was asked:
    'who' 1 He answered: 'He from whose misdeeds his neighbour is not safe.' “
    -(Bukhari)
    No person will be punished for the sins of another. Each person will be brought to account for his own sins. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “And no bearer of burdens shall bear another’s burden”[Faatir 35:18]

    “God forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you
    not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing
    kindly and justly with them: for God loveth those who are just.”
    (H.Q. 60:8)
    “God only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you
    for (your) faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support
    (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship
    and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumst
    ances), that do wrong.” (H.Q. 60:9)

  169. When I watched this video vhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1JIKOMQV5A I realized where from
    Mohammad got his ideas.

  170. $Slave

    Poor man! You either have no brain or no one has told you how to use it. You only follow the madman of Arabia without any questioning. If he says you can eat the meat of Gorilla, who is our closest cousin, you do it. If he says eat excrement, you do it. If he says fornicate your mother you do it. You have abandoned your thinking faculty. You are now a certifiable brainless zombie.

  171. @Slave.

    So you know about these hadiths and still think that despicable man was a prophet? Have you any sense of decency left in you? Anyone who knows about the above hadiths and still thinks Muhammad was a prophet should not be called a human. What is wrong with you? You know that Muhammad raided innocent people in the middle of the night. You know that he massacred unarmed men, women and children to steal from them. And you still are a proud slave of this despicable criminal? Let me tell you my friend that if there is a hell you will be going there without a doubt. There is no room for stupid people and for evil worshipers in paradise.

  172. Even Christians are vulnerable to Islam. Even those who have received Sunday classes and have been told Islam is evil are vulnerable to Islam. The reason is that Muslims lie. When you meet a Muslim he will lie to you about his religion, so you will start doubting everything you had read. The truth surfaces when it is too late and you are trapped.

  173. @Kirana
    If I were you I would leave this boyfriend. Most Muslims are not practicing but most Muslims are fanatics when it comes to Islam. Islam is also a religion of deception. This boyfriend of yours can lie to you in order to marry you. He would say that you can keep your faith. But once married he will coerce you to covert. Your life will be as hell whether you marry him or not.

    I suggest you tell him that the only way that you’d marry him is that he leaves Islam, not for you but because he should realize it is a deception and very evil. Ask him to read my book. If he reads it he will most likely leave Islam. If he refuses to read it please leave him for your own sake. You are a smart woman. You know you have only one life and you know love weakens one’s resolve. So don’t marry this man unless he reads my book and leaves Islam.

    If he doesn’t want to buy my book, which is available in Kindle format from Amazon.com, I can send him the older edition in pdf.

    As for you, I suggest you watch the movie Not without My Daughter on Youtube. You will see how Muslims lie and how they have a very sinister and evil face that they hide. You deserve better than a Muslim husband.

  174. Kirana, I cannot question why you abandoned your Christian faith. It is your personal decision. But by doing so you have become vulnerable to ravenous wolves who will want to lure you to their faith. A good example is what you narrated at the beginning of your story. Your erstwhile friend tried taqiyya on you by claiming not to be a serious muslim while at the same time urging you to convert so that both of you could get married. If he was a near apostate, his family would not have tolerated his presence. To confirm this, he encouraged you to practice the salat which made him and his family very happy. Your wisdom did save you from what would have been inevitable doom. It should be a lesson to other girls to forever be on their guard for predators are around. There is an obsession by non-muslim women for muahammadan men. The reason for this is hard to explain.

  175. Hi Eric,
    I'm Indonesian, a non-moslem who is in some sort has the same situation with your brother, but not quite same. I have a moslem boyfriend, even he is not a good 'moslem' since he never practice Islam at all he at many times encourage me to convert into Islam. He knows that I had good christian upbringing even now I won't call my self christian, I've abandoned church for so years now, and he sees that as a good chance to lure me into Islam by asking my hand in marriage. But what he doesn't know that, I've known Islam and I maybe know Islam better than him even I don't speak arabic language or read Koran. I've learned Islam from my sunday school time, differently with moslems who learned Christianity to judge it and to promote hate against it, I was taught of Islam by my sunday school teacher in respect and to understand it. And in my understanding Islam is harsh and full of hatred and terrors. In Indonesia, even it is secular country, inter-religion marriage is prohibited by law, and my boyfriend use this excuse many times, that one of us have to convert with the emphasize that it's a common thing that a woman should follow her man (so typical). I loved him so much and that's every woman's weakness, even I know Islam, I think if I want to be with him, I should give up my faith, myself. So, I learned more about Islam in the sense that that there must be good in it, if not why it has almost 80% of Indonesian follower which most Indonesian proud that they are the biggest moslem population of the world, I even practiced the shalat and all, he and his family so happy with that, but the truth is I followed him not because I believed in Islam, but because I want to marry him, it's a torture at the end, and total hell to me as i should go against my rational senses. And one day, I just woke up in realization, that I won't live in such hypocrisy and as a hypocrite for the rest of my life, this is my life, and I only live it once, and I want to live it right and as myself. So I told him one day, I am not christian, and i'm certainly not a moslem, and I won't make mistakes that I will regret for the rest of my life, I love you, but if to marry you I have to marry your religion, then I'm sorry, let's end it up here and now. it struck him with surprise, but he didn't say anything but that he understand. He still hoping that we could marry, but he knows well I won't marry him in any religion way let alone to convert. I know he can't converted too to follow me because to what religion should he converted as I have none, and I won't let him do that because of me, as I know it's not right. I just want him to know, that to love means to respect one's choice too, if you blindly love and let it failed your rational sense, you put yourself in a very dangerous position. And there will be no way back with Islam, you can't just try it and if it's not suited you, you can leave it for good, there's no such thing in Islam. So, the only thing I can share you is to bring your brother to his own sense, try to talk to him that love has nothing to do with religion. you should make him consider that his choice will determine his fate and his life after the marriage, and there is no turning back. he should think about that, because how big or deep his love for her, his self is his own, his life is his own not hers to control or to be directed in the name of love. it will be hard for you to do that to your brother, but you must, before it's too late.

  176. For Jihad all things are OK! even eating pork.

  177. Can he go to Singapore permanently ? I hope you understand what i mean ? In case he is not interested in Islam, then better he does not become Muslim for a female. Allah SWT is not dependent upon who becomes a Muslim or not. If your sister in law is not ready to leave her faith, then let this marriage does not occur.

  178. Only problem is that they (by their rules) would be justified in hunting him down and killing him for committing shirk, I believe it's called. He's in a no-win here.

  179. Shabby,
    "YOU MUST GO FOR THE ONE WITH RELIGION-". Because,after brainwashing, she does not know her right from her left. She must accept whatever is presented to her without the slightest emotion. Failure to do so is taken as rebellion for which she must be whipped. What choice does such a physical and psychological slave have?

  180. Slave,
    It still does not change the fact that, like all ' believing women', she was suffering. She would not have complained if she had enjoyed the suffering or considered it to be a virtue. I believe that she was very relieved when Muhammad died, otherwise she would have longed to have joined him in the hereafter. None of Muhammad's numerous wives and concubines showed such a desire.

  181. Your 'prophet' was in the best position to know for the first two reasons accounted for his marriage to Khadijja.

  182. Innocent Guy,
    The retards did not say what happens to a muslim who eats with one intestine when he abandons muhammadanism and vise versa. Does the length of the intestine also change to correspond with what obtains in the new faith?

  183. Just A Reader,
    Interestingly, the sunni muslims consider Zakir Naik to be a salafist and non muslim. However, they do not denounce his eagerness to convert non muslims. Muslims are the same irrespective of sect.

  184. Slave of Prophet, why not you see the many evil in Islam and Mohammed sayings? Mohammed order stoning to death for people who make mistake in life. How you think this good for human race?
    How you think Mohhammed perfect man and always right from God? Maybe you can not think for yerself and only have Islam do all yer thinking for you. You Muslim so brainwash by yr stupid false crazy religion it funny.

    Sahih al-Bukhari: Volume 8, Book 82, Number 805:

    Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah Al-Ansari:
    A man from the tribe of Bani Aslam came to Allah's Apostle and informed him that he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and bore witness four times against himself. Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] ordered him to be stoned to death as he was a married Person.

  185. I am sorry to say my friend that,he is not your brother at all ,he was true Muslim in his earlier life .Muslims only think of sex all the time and 24/7.They don't know love ,their love drilled through sex ,and your so called brother is a good example of it .He is not doing any wrong but carry forwarding the legacy of his earlier life ,ha,ha,ha.

  186. Why Allah had created Muslims and Non-Muslims separately?,if he wish everyone should believe in him ,then why ?,he did not programmed each human being with slave mentality ,except the Muslims.Some 1400 years back ,some aliens visited this earth and they found this mad Mohammed is ideal candidate for safe guarding their interest on their new colony ,that is our planet,and they have succeeded well in their quest,ha,ha,ha "earth is flat" ,what a goon this Allah is , ROFALMAO HA,HA,HA.

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  188. @Ali Sina
    Though, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said not to kill woman and children of non-believers. But if they get killed while confronting with non-believers it is forgiven by Allah.

    Proof:-

    Narrated As-Sab bin Jaththama:
    The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." I also heard the Prophet saying, "The institution of Hima is invalid except for Allah and His Apostle." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 256)

    It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them. (Sahih Muslim, Book 019, Number 4321)

  189. @Innocent Guy
    Aisha Madam was the true Muslim woman and true believer who had to go through severe testing. By giving pain & suffering Allah makes the believers strong.

  190. @Ali Sina
    We can eat the animals flesh as prescribed by Holy Quran. Quran directs us which are the animals whom flesh we should consume and which are prohibited. I think Gorilla also can be consumed.

  191. Aisha said, "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women.

  192. Narrated Abu Huraira:

    A man used to eat much, but when he embraced Islam, he started eating less. That was mentioned to the Prophet who then said, "A believer eats in one intestine (is satisfied with a little food) and a Kafir eats in seven intestines (eats much).

    Can you digest this saying of Mohammad.

  193. I don't think animals are that different from us. We just have more intelligence. We're not that far removed from the animal world (only a few thousand years). Mammals especially, i believe can experience emotions as us. Elephants for example go to the bones of dead elephants they might not even know and just stay there feeling the bones. My guess is empathy, but I could be wrong.

  194. Okay babies is a different story.

    Many animals seem to have a special feeling for babies that would like to save them. I saw a video of a cheetah saving a baby baboon from a hyena. T
    Here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix0y9j32h70

    Coco, the famous gorilla who could communicate with humans through sign language was once given a kitten. She loved the kitten but when she was told that the kitty was killed in an accident, she was seen crying just as we humans do.

    Animals are a lot closer to us humans that we want to acknowledge. Many of them are far more human than Muslims. It is not unheard of Muslims killing babies of the non-Muslims.

  195. Actually I wrote a story about dolphins saving human swimmers from a shark. The humans were at first scared and did not know why the dolphins are circling them and not allowing them to go forward. The they saw the shark. For almost one hour, a few dolphins protected the humans. They called for help and other dolphins showed up. A few stayed with humans keeping them in one place while others chased away the shark. When the shark went away, so did the dolphins.

    I wrote other stuff but then thought the article is becoming too long and it is not about empathy anyway. So you are right. Maybe dolphins are much more evolved than we think. I just hope one day we can communicate with them. God knows what things we can learn from them. This would be the biggest day in science.

  196. What about this hippo trying to save a baby gazelle? Is this not empathy as well?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrBqEslJgQg

  197. Dr. Sina,

    This dolphin saved whales it probably didn't know when it didn't have to. How is this not empathy?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp_motddvnQ

  198. SHA-BEER :: In ISLAM there is no concept of marriage . You know that. The word is NIKHA which in arabic means , penetration !!
    In ISLAM everything is discriminatory against infidels,kafirs/unbelievers !!! There is no universal human value in ISLAM. That is the reason why I say , ISLAM does not belong in human civilization. ISLAM is only for demons. ISLAM is a terrible, terrible religion !!!

  199. SHA-BEER :: In ISLAM there is no concept of marriage . You know that. The word is NIKHA which in arabic means , penetration !! What that means is that whether the man got the job of penetrating the
    the woman's vagina by his penis . In ISLAM , it is not the same , as in other religions . In ISLAM it is a contract . MUTAA is another type of contract, when a moslem leaves his place of residence, he can have ISLAMIC legalized prostitution, paying money and using the woman for a time he likes . In ISLAM , a Moslemah has no role, no likings and dislikings to choose or express the opinions !!! In ISLAM , the woman just complies with , her father decision to whom to go with and sleep and be like sexual robot. Love is totally disregarded in ISLAM. First of all, there is no chance even to see a woman in ISLAM, because she is al ways in BURQA !!! what can you see there ? in ISLAM only, a moslem man is ready to buy his his NIKHA woman by paying an amount of money ( which is just buying or paying rent for using the vagina ) to the moslem woman. !!!
    What i am telling is that you can't compare marriage in other religions with ISLAMIC NIKHA !!! NIKHA is not marriage , eventhough , people mistakenly use it as equivalent .Moreover the ISLAMIC woman has no say in even giving her opinion about the man she is going to copulate with. Actually it is a forced NIKHA . The KAZI comes and asks the woman whether the man is acceptable to her . Note that the Moslem man is never seen by her !!!! or talked !! The the Moslemah must say KABOOL Hi , KABOOL HI . Then it is over !!! This is ISLAMIC way of doing ……. Only the woman's consent is needed .

  200. It's the law in Malaysia that in order to marry a muslim, a non-muslim must convert. Once converted, you cannot leave. Only way is to migrate to other country. We are Taoist-Confucian Chinese. Our late grandparents used to advised us not to marry those belonging to Abrahamic religions .

  201. Ali Sina said above:

    "There is another important factor that will result in the failure of this marriage that has nothing to do with Islam. Women are attracted to manly men. Some of the attributes of a manly man are leadership, strength and integrity. A man who changes his religion to appease his woman sends a clear message that he is weak, needy and insecure – not a leader but a follower – one who has no integrity and will step over his own convictions to gain acceptance from others. In other words he is a wimp, a wuss, which women find extremely unattractive.

    A man who is not manly cannot get respect from any woman. This is ingrained in women’s psychology. Women find strong men attractive and are repulsed by weak men. Although on the surface your brother’s girlfriend may express her joy for his conversion, deep down inside, at a sub conscious level, she is disappointed. She sees that your brother lacks strength. He is not someone that can be leaned on and trusted. A man who betrays his conviction to gain acceptance from a woman is hardly a dependable man that any woman can find attractive."

    I recall something that coincides, if not the same thing:

    About why adulterous woman are attracted to a married man who's loyal to his wife?
    That's because to her, this married man is an ideal she could only dream of but can't attain. Since she could not be sure about any man's faith, she's attracted to a man who seem to have principle and integrity who's loyal to his wife, fantasizing about being in that wife's position. Giving in to her attraction she may try to seduce him, to try to make him his.

    What's interesting is, this is a no-win situation.
    If the man's integrity's unshakeable, he will never give in, he'd instead dismiss the adulterous woman, he will never be hers.
    But if he gives in? And allow himself to be involved with her? Well it would seem at first that she's won, she gets the man she desires. Until she realizes that just by giving in to her advances, the man will have betrayed his wife and betrayed his integrity, he's no longer a man of integrity nor loyalty. The man she found attractive before has now become repulsive, her 'love' gone turned to disgust.

    Things go downhill from there then. The once proud man reduced to being a door mat, a wuss, like Sina said.

  202. Oh, you sh1tty shabby are still alive! I thought you blew up to meet the 72 houries! Never mind you are as demented as you were before!

  203. In the previous Hadeeth, the Prophet mentioned various characteristics that people, by their nature and custom, look for in a spouse. He did not advocate any of them, but merely stated them as facts of human nature, except for the issue of Deen, i.e., a prospective spouse's piety and practice of Islam – their fulfilling of what is mandatory and their avoidance of what is unlawful. About this characteristic, the Prophet said: "It is (incumbent) upon you to seek the one with piety". This is an order and quite different from the general statement at the beginning of the Hadeeth which states: "A woman is married for…" and separates the issue of 'religion' from the other mundane issues and puts it in a category by itself. Also, when the Prophet said at the end of the Hadeeth: "…May your hands be in the dust", invoking this negative outcome on those who disregard his order, it can only refer to the order to seek the spouse with piety, since that is the only order in the Hadeeth.

  204. Qualities to look for in a spouse

    Making sure that Muslims are well-matched in marriage is one of the most important and potentially difficult functions in Muslim society. The individual seeking marriage must have his/her priorities straight and be clear about which characteristics are most important in a spouse in order to have a successful marriage. There are many characteristics that are important in a husband or a wife but some are exceedingly more important than others. Emphasising the wrong qualities can lead to disaster down the road just as being neglectful of certain considerations can do likewise. When we come to understand the goals and priorities of marriage in Islam, we may be guided to the Islamic methodology of seeking marriage in Islam and stop blindly following the disbelievers in their ignorant notions of the importance of 'getting to know each other' and other such concepts which in reality contribute nothing to and, more often, sabotage a marriage.

    Prophet Muhammad taught us in many Ahaadeeth (prophetic statements) about the various characteristics which one looks for in a spouse and their relative importance. Among those Ahaadeeth are the following: "A woman is married for her religion, her wealth or her beauty. You must go for the one with religion, may your hands be in the dust! (if you fail to heed)" [Muslim] And also: "Choose carefully for your seed (offspring). Marry those who are equivalent (or 'qualified') and give to them in marriage." [Ibn Maajah & Others]

    In the following sections, we will discuss, if Allaah wills, some of the most important characteristics that can be found in the Quran and the Sunnah (prophetic tradition) related to selecting a good spouse.

    Religion

  205. Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 62 :: Hadith 27
    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    The Prophet said, "A woman is married for four things, i.e., her wealth, her family status, her beauty and her religion. So you should marry the religious woman (otherwise) you will be a losers.

  206. Islam's goal is to grow number. When a Muslim girl fall in love with some one from other faith they will make sure that the boy gets converted. If a Muslim boy fall in love with a non-Muslim girl they will make sure that the girl gets converted. Problem is if a non-Muslim girl gets converted no one will know anything about her any more. Entering into a Muslim family is like entering crossing the horizon of black hole, no signal can come out from there. Muslims won't tolerate any exception. Find out what happened when Maratha king Shivaji's son fell in love with Aurangzeb's daughter. He was murdered by Aurangzeb because the Maratha king did not want his son to get converted into Muslim even though he approved the marriage. A recent example is Imran Farasat. I do not see how his suffering is going to end it looks like it is going to get worse. There is a guy called Dr. Zakir Naik. It is very difficult to control laugh if you see how he tries to convert people into Islam. He conducts many seminars to strengthen faith among the young people. If any Hindu boy or girl ask him any question about Islam he asks point blank "Will you convert to Islam if I answer your question", it sounds like he is selling insurance policies. Of course religion is an insurance for after life.

  207. Oh ,
    Ali sina you never seizes to mesmerise me. Throwing down once own culture for the sake of marriage is like having a sex change operation, in both the cases you are trying to change your identity which is a very essential for every-bodies existence

  208. And if he tries to leave Islam his once friendly Muslim brothers will gladly chop his head off for him.

  209. Dear Eric, your brother will be circumcised soon after conversion. I think that your mother will faint when she came to know about it.

  210. Dont worry Eric, such marriages are doomed right from the beginning. Once your brother realizes that his brainwashed muslim wife doesn't love him he will come to his senses and leave Muhammadan cult. Maybe this is even a good experience for your brother. Now he will see the true nature of Islam

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