Incest

 The question has been on my mind for quite some time now.

Islam says any form of sex which is done between two people who are not married is wrong. The seculars say that as long as it satisfies the following points it is ok:

1-The people involved are not hurting anyone,
2-Done with mutual consent,
3-All people involved are adults.

If this is the criterion for legitimacy of sex, why is incest considered wrong by secular people, even atheist?  If it is done between a brother and sister and both are happy, adult and mutually consenting, how can anyone say it is wrong?

Incest is not natural.  Virtually all species avoid procreation with their kin. Mammals often chase the male juveniles out of their tribe who generally find a mate from another tribe. This is true in felines, canines, elephants, primates and even birds. The affection that siblings and other close in kin have for each other is not sexualized. This is nature’s way to prevent the degeneration of genes.

Although it is not uncommon for children that grow in one neighborhood to develop romantic love for each other, it is rare that step brother and sisters, not related by blood, or adopted children that grow up as siblings, to develop romantic love for one another, even though there is no moral or legal impediment for them in doing so. Incest is an exception to the norm. It is therefore a mental and spiritual disorder.

Incest-Child

The danger of incest is known to all people and animals.  The above picture was a child born through an accidental incest.  A twin brother and sister were put on adoption after birth. They grew up in separate families without having any knowledge of each other.  When in their youth they met accidentally, they felt attraction for each other and got married. This child is the product of that very unfortunate union. Read more about it here.

Incest-Brothers

Two Brothers Who Are The Product Of Incest

 

Apart from the physical, there is a spiritual factor that is equally important. Love, is a generic word that covers a variety of sentiments. Parental love, fraternal love, spousal love, friendship, animal love, etc. are different forms of love, but they are very distinct from each other. They don’t mix or overlap.  Friendship can morph into conjugal love. When this happens, friendship ends. The same is true in the case of other loves.

The doctrine of consenting adults is valid only in law.  It means that if two or more individuals engage in consensual sex, the act is not punishable by law. As one prime minster of Canada used to say, the government has no business in people’s bedrooms. However, this doctrine does not apply to incest. Incest is illegal and criminally punishable in most countries and the reason is clear from the above pictures.

However, legal does not mean moral. This is an important distinction that Muslims have difficulty to understand.  In many Islamic countries it is the job of the government to protect the morality of the public. The Muslim public is okay with it. They even have a ministry of morality and a morality police to tell people how to dress, how to worship and how to live their private life.

Civilized countries distinguish between legal and moral. Morality is private and is left to the individual. It is something between you and your god. Grownups don’t need someone to tell them how to live their life.  As long as one’s conduct is not scandalous to others, people are left free to do as they please.  You can’t take off your clothes in public places or you’ll be arrested and charged with misdemeanor. But if you wish to practice nudism in your home or in designated places, away from the public, the government does not get involved. So you may find beaches where nudism is practiced legally. However, this does not mean that nudism is moral.

A few years ago, police raided a swinger club in Vancouver Canada and arrested a few dozens of naked men and women.  The swingers took the case to the court and the judge ruled in their favor.  The reasoning given by the judge in support of his ruling was that having consensual sex is a moral matter, and the government should not police people’s morality.

This ruling, although decriminalized consensual extramarital sex, it did not remove the moral illegitimacy of this act.  Promiscuity is still immoral. It is just not the business of the government to regulate morality.

Now that we understand the difference between moral and legal, the question that arises is what is moral. Each culture seems to have its own morality, which is sometimes deemed immoral by other cultures.  A good example is polygyny. Muslims see nothing wrong if a man takes multiple wives.  For many other cultures this practice is highly immoral, unethical and unfair.  On the other hand there are cultures that practice polyandry. Another example is muta’ or the marriage of pleasure, which is erroneously translated as temporary marriage. Muhammad prescribed it to his followers, and Muslims practice it to this day. The Sunnis deem it right during the war and the Shiites practice it at all times. In other cultures this is nothing but prostitution where instead of pimps the mullahs profit. Marriage between first cousins is regarded as incest by most people, but Muslims think it a good practice, because their prophet did it.  At the same time Islam considers the marriage between a man and a woman that were breast fed by one woman, illegal.  Is there any rationality to this?  Whose morality is right?

Morality is formed by social needs.  Arabs are patriarchal. In patriarchal societies women have less value. They are no more than objects. Just as having more cars for a modern Arabs is the symbol of status, his ancestors regarded having multiple wives as a symbol of status.  The Inuit people, (formerly known derogatorily as Eskimos,) lived in isolated small communities. They had realized that intermarriages produce defective children, and hence encouraged strangers to copulate with their wife so they may have strong children.  Some poor communities in Tibet practiced fraternal polygyny. Several brothers shared one wife. This reduced the number of children and precluded the division of the land.

As you see, morality is formed by social needs. Religions did not bring morality. They codified the already established morality. In many olden societies, there was no distinction between religion and state. The power was in the hand of the priesthood or the monarch was vested with divine right. He had the control of his kingdom and the church, a position known as caesaropope. The division between religion and state has its origin in Martin Luther’s doctrine of the two kingdoms, therefore, it is relatively new in the west, but still absent in Islamic consciousness.

Moral is therefore, what is perceived as beneficial for the society, and immoral is what is perceived as harmful. A society that believes women are the source of man’s temptation, finds it beneficial to devise dress codes to force women to cover their beauty.  A society that thinks men are superior to women and women are the property of men will see nothing wrong in polygyny, child marriage or political marriage, where women are used as pawn to gain favor from other clans. A society that finds no value in the rights of the individual will not tolerate non-conformism and will uproot dissent. On the other hand, where individuality and equality of rights between men and women are the cornerstones of the society, forcing a dress code on women is rejected as immoral; child marriage is immoral; polygamy is immoral, and so on and so forth. The morality of the society shapes its legal codes.

Now back to your question. Does incest fall under the category of consenting adults? No, because the life of innocent beings is at stake.  Drinking and driving is prohibited because it endangers the life of others.  Incest should remain a crime for the same reason. What if the procreation is avoided? Does incest become acceptable? No, the law cannot make exceptions. It is like saying, is it okay to cross a red light if one does so with caution?

Apart from the fact that incest must remain illegal there is a spiritual factor that we have to take into account. Who are we? What is the definition of human? Are we mere biological machines? If the answer is yes, then I find it hard to argue why promiscuity, open marriage, nudism, and other sexual deviancies should be considered immoral.  Under the doctrine of consenting adults, nothing seems to be inherently wrong. To some extent this also applies to incest.

In 2001, Armin Meiwes, a German man found a voluntary victim on the Internet who responded to his ad that read, “looking for a well-built 18- to 30-year-old to be slaughtered and then consumed.”  Meiwes videotaped everything that showed the couple first engaged in consensual homosexual activity. Then they jointly attempted to eat the victim’s severed penis. Then Meiwes read a book for three hours, while his victim lay bleeding in the bath. He then chopped the cadaver and proceeded eating its meat.  The whole scene was recorded on the two-hour video tape.

The case attracted considerable media attention and led to a debate over whether Meiwes could be convicted at all, given that his victim had voluntarily and knowingly participated in the act.

Although this shocking incident takes the doctrine of “consenting adults” to its logical extreme, it highlights its deficiency.  Consenting adults doctrine cannot be the bases of human morality.

We humans are not just biological machines. We are primarily spiritual beings.  The source of most human sufferings is in our inability to find the balance between our physical and spiritual dimensions. We have a body that is created and it will eventually perish.  We know fear because we know we are mortal.  Fear is necessary for our self-preservation. We also have needs that have to be satisfied. These needs cause competition, aggression and violence.  Their excess result in greed and evil. Evil exists because we have a mortal body.

We also have a spiritual body.  This spiritual body is our consciousness. It is the “I” in us.  It is not created. It therefore will not die. It is as eternal as God. Our spirit is not a creation of God. It is a piece of God, in the same way that water molecules, whether in the ocean or in the air and land, are pieces of the ocean. They come from the ocean and they return to it.

Unlike our body that knows fears because it is perishable,  our soul has no fear, unless we don’t know we are eternal. It also has no needs and therefore no greed, no aggression, and no evil. As pieces of God we have godlike attributes. Since the essence of God is love, the more we love the more godlike we become.

As long as our soul is associated with our body, we are caught in between two worlds: the world of the body and the world of the spirit. Consequently, we have both animal attributes and divine attributes.  One is not better than the other. Both are necessary.  Our job is to find the balance.  Pain and suffering are part of this world. They are necessary for our survival. If you don’t feel pain how do you know something is wrong with you?  Without pain, you could burn one of your limbs to ashes without noticing it.  Without fear, you could risk losing your life. Our sufferings are symptoms that something is wrong. They push us to fix the problem.  All the progress we humans have made has been to alleviate our suffering and to satisfy our needs.

However, since we are also spirit, we must nourish our spiritual being too.  Love is the food of the soul, while sex is for the body. The question is not which is better. Both are important. Let us say you want to go from one city to another. You need a vehicle. Your vehicle must be in good shape with enough oil and fuel.  But as a driver, you too need to be fit for the trip, well rested, well fed, and your needs have to be taken care of. For a safe trip you can ignore neither your needs nor the needs of your car.  We come to this world, using our body as a vehicle. It is important to take care of it, but not at the cost of ignoring our soul.  We come here for a purpose. The purpose of life is to love. Love has many shapes and forms and all of them are needed. We need parents to love, siblings to love, friends to love, a life partner to love, children to love, pets to love, our home to love, our town, country, and humanity to love, love the Earth, the animals, the universe and above all love ourselves.  I omitted God because God is in all these thing.  When you love someone, you love God.

The only love that can be sexualized is conjugal love.  Sex improves the conjugal love and makes it grow.  It destroys all other forms of love.  Parental love and fraternal love are the most elevated forms of love. When sexualized they are destroyed. Incest kills the most perfect, the most divine form of love.  And since our consciousness is eternal, the damage endures forever.  Incest harms our soul. It limits its progress. It separates us from our source.  Joy is from God. Pleasure is from body. It is foolish to exchange something eternal for something transient. Yes we have to enjoy the pleasures of this world, but never at the cost of the eternal joy.

Morality therefore, does not just benefit the society, it also benefits our soul. It is a spiritual faculty.  We are spiritual beings and we need to work on our morality to elevate our soul.

What is true in regards to incest, to a lesser degree is also true in regards to promiscuity. Conjugal love must be exclusive.  It can exist only between one man and one woman, with the exclusion of everyone else.  Polygamy, open marriage, group sex and all other variations of sexual behavior, damage the conjugal love. This is a special kind of love that unites the couple physically and spiritually.  You can’t be in love with multiple partners. There is no love in polygamous families. This affects the children and it explains why Muslims are generally psychologically damaged. Therefore, even though polygamy among Muslims is legal, it is still immoral. The same is true in regards to marriage between first cousins and child marriage. Muslims lead very immoral lives, but because they can’t tell the difference between legal and moral, they think what their prophet has made legal is also moral and feel no shame for it. Their sense of shame is destroyed because their awareness is destroyed. An immoral act remains immoral even if it is practiced by many.  Nudism is immoral, but since in a nudist camp everybody is naked, the nudist does not feel inhibited. His or her sense of decency is hampered because everyone else also does it.  Likewise, Muslims who commit incest with their first cousins, or rape little children, feel no shame for their immoral act because it is legal and the norm.

This argument alone is enough to prove that morality is independent from religion.  Incest among cousins, and child rape is regarded immoral by all the people, religious or not. But Muslims practice it and see nothing wrong in them.  They have a much lower morality than humanity at large.  People who have no religion know that marriage between first cousins is incest. Muslims don’t. Isn’t this a clear evidence that morality has nothing to do with religion?  Without Islam Muslims would not engage in such despicable and immoral acts.  That is because the consciousness of the average person is higher than that of a a psychopath who fooled the masses into accepting him as a prophet.  Muslims as the result have a lower morality because they follow a psychopath.

The financial cost to countries that allow Muslim immigrants is immense. Incestuous Muslims cost tax payers huge sums of money and increase the index of retards and imbeciles where they immigrate.  This article is a must read for anyone who is concerned about the ignored problem of incest among Muslims. For 1400 years Muslims have practiced and even encouraged incest, producing nations of imbeciles deformed people and now they are bringing their incestuous culture to the west.  According to the BBC, 55% of Pakistani-Britons are married to a first cousin, and as a corollary to that produce « just under a third » of all children in the UK with genetic illnesses, despite being only 3% of the total births. The Muslim population is the only population on earth that is mentally and physically devolving.

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  1. FormerSlave says:

    To all those in denial:
    Even IF the pictures are FAKE, the BBC report  cited is LEGIT. I have known Paki families in UK first hand and can recall the horrors of cousin marriage that result in life-long punishments for their children! 

    Doesn't Islam forbid alcohol consumption because the 'benefits outweigh the risks'? Doesn't islam outright declare war on usury? (I am sure there are *some* benefits of that too). So why gloss over such an important issue as cousin-marriage? Of course some of you will start bringing up obscure hadith, but what can we say, the source of emulation for all muslims, the Prophet himself, did it, so why stop his followers??

    Here's the BBC link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4

    the 55% statistic cite is correct, the close to 30% birth-defects is also correct.

  2. Blorb says:

    I see… so it's illegal to kill another human being. EXCEPT in self-defense. EXCEPT in the defense of others ( as in law enforcement ). EXCEPT as punishment for grievous crimes. EXCEPT during wartime. Yeah, you're right – exceptions falsify the law. ( EXCEPT this one. )

  3. Vicky says:

    Marriage according to Gotra System – Science behing Vedic Hindu philosophy : Do read for enlightenment on marriage system as per Sanatana Dharma aka Hinduism : http://www.hitxp.com/articles/veda/science-geneti

  4. supriya says:

    Namaste Dr. Ali Sina
    Indian Culture has tradition of of a girl and a boy having different Gotra (clan) should marry with each other. Indians are following this tradition from thousands of years ago. Indian marriage system allows a man to marry a woman for the whole life. Monogamy(having only one wife or having only one husband). Indian can't think of having more than one lifepartaner. And most importantly India has no culture of divorce in it's tradition. I have read in your Faith freedom site that Mohammad had allowed a man to marry his mother and daughter. He had sex with his aunty's deadbody and also with his daughter- in-law. Having read this ,I think that those who blindly follow Muhammad are sick-minded, and have no emotions, intelligence. They are rapist of their own siblings. Muslims are the victims of sick minded Mohammad and his self drafted religion called Islam. India was also victim of inhuman Arabic muslims in middle age. I thank my ancestors who did not frighten to the sword of Jihad and did not convert to barbaric and violent Islam.
    Om Shanti.

  5. Pratik says:

    Dear Ali Sina,
    Is not the link given to photos is of Nationalreport.
    WIkipedia says –
    "National Report (nationalreport.net) is a satirical website devoted to often subtle parodies of real news which convince the unwary."
    I had came to know about it when it published a total nonsense about a fictional "Assam Rape festival in India". Being an Indian I found that highly offensive and to much a lie to be even consider it sattirical.

    Apart from my above observation, I am with you on your take on Islam here. Islam is dirty.

    Regards,
    Pratik
    India

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  7. Tijionne says:

    In the Western world the only country that has bans on cousin marriages is the United States. However rates of cousin marriages in Western countries and Japan have been going down

  8. dssc7 says:

    Mr Ali Sina, You are very enthusiastic to vilify Muslims. You say marriage between first cousins is incest, but you were speechless, when I showed you in the Bible marriage between stepsister, and among father and his daughter.
    You and your followers always say that Muhammad is immoral, and you wan to help Muslims to be free from Muhammad,s teaching. Therefore You will make a movie about the life of Muhammad. Thus you hope that Muslims will leave their religion and become atheist like you. Regarding this point, you need a fund of ten million USD, and you have got two millions dollars.

    Actually you are not going to help the Muslims, but was looking for money through Muhammad popularity. You are actually lack of knowlegde about Islam Religion, and the life story of Muhammad.

  9. dssc7 says:

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  10. dssc7 says:

    That is true, that Sara was not the sister of Abraham, but according to Genesis 20:12. She was the daughter of his father, and not the daughter of his mother.

  11. mp11 says:

    Not only that, Jewish law (like Islamic law) permits marriages between cousins. This should logically mean that judaism permits incest and jews have no morality. It does not of course, for obvious reasons.
    http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/468

    Uncles and nieces can also be married under judaic law. I wonder how moral this is to Mr. Sina? Why does it not appear in the article since the practice is to be condemned irrespective of who commits it.

    Interestingly, Zoroastrianism also allows it. It is strange that one of the oldest religions of mankind, it would also allow such an immoral Islamic-like practice. Does this mean that the religion and its follower are immoral? probably not, or it would have been mentioned in Mr. Sina's article.
    http://www.consang.net/images/d/dd/01AHBWeb3.pdf

    Buddhism apparently sanctions marriages between first cousins. This is quite strange as buddhism is generally perceived as highly moral or at least more moral than Islam.  
    http://www.consang.net/images/d/dd/01AHBWeb3.pdf

  12. Agracean says:

    Mr/Ms dssc7, in the olden days, there is no such a facility named 'toilet' in the Sahara desert and human beings just pee and poo anywhere they like in public places and this kind of practices are acceptable back then. But in this 21st century, it is illegal or rather, not acceptable for any man or woman to bare their bottom or to pee or poo in any public places. Time has changed and besides that, you will realize that everything under the sun is deteriorating as a result of sin.

  13. dssc7 says:

    Mr Ali Sina, Here is what Lot and His Daughter. Genesis 19:30-36. What do you think of it? http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genes

    Lot and His Daughters

    30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”

    33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

    34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

    36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab[g]; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi[h]; he is the father of the Ammonites[i] of today.

  14. dssc7 says:

    Abraham and Abimelech

    20 From there Abraham journeyed toward the territory of the Negeb and lived between pKadesh and Shur; and he qsojourned in rGerar. 2 And Abraham said of Sarah his wife, s“She is my sister.” And Abimelech king of Gerar sent and took Sarah. 3 tBut God came to Abimelech uin a dream by night and said to him, “Behold, you are a dead man because of the woman whom you have taken, for she is a man’s wife.” 4 Now Abimelech had not approached her. So he said, v“Lord, will you kill an innocent people? 5 Did he not himself say to me, ‘She is my sister’? And she herself said, ‘He is my brother.’ In the integrity of my heart and the innocence of my hands I have done this.” 6 Then God said to him in the dream, “Yes, I know that you have done this in the integrity of your heart, and it was I who kept you from sinning wagainst me. Therefore I did not let you touch her. 7 Now then, return the man’s wife, xfor he is a prophet, so that he will pray for you, and you shall live. But if you do not return her, know that you shall surely die, you yand all who are yours.”

    8 So Abimelech rose early in the morning and called all his servants and told them all these things. And the men were very much afraid. 9 Then Abimelech called Abraham and said to him, “What have you done to us? And how have I sinned against you, that you have brought on me and my kingdom a great sin? You have done to me things that ought not to be done.” 10 And Abimelech said to Abraham, “What did you see, that you did this thing?” 11 Abraham said, “I did it because I thought, z‘There is no fear of God at all in this place, and athey will kill me because of my wife.’ 12 Besides, bshe is indeed my sister, the daughter of my father though not the daughter of my mother, and she became my wife. 13 And when cGod caused me to wander from my father’s house, I said to her, ‘This is the kindness you must do me: at every place to which we come, dsay of me, “He is my brother.” ’ ”

    14 Then Abimelech etook sheep and oxen, and male servants and female servants, and gave them to Abraham, and returned Sarah his wife to him. 15 And Abimelech said, “Behold, fmy land is before you; dwell where it pleases you.” 16 To Sarah he said, “Behold, I have given gyour brother a thousand pieces of silver. It is ha sign of your innocence in the eyes of all1 who are with you, and before everyone you are vindicated.” 17 Then iAbraham prayed to God, and God healed Abimelech, and also healed his wife and female slaves so that they bore children. 18 For the Lord jhad closed all the wombs of the house of Abimelech because of Sarah, Abraham’s wife.

  15. dssc7 says:

    Here is what Genesis 20: 12 says. http://biblia.com/books/esv/Ge20.12
    Genesis 20: 12 Besides, she is indeed my sister, the daughter of my father though not the daughter of my mother, and she became my wife. What do you think of it?

  16. dssc7 says:

    Mr Ali Sina, you said that Sara was not the sister of Abraham. How do you know it? I found in Genesis 20:12 said that Sara was the sister of Abraham, the daughter of his father, but not the daghter of his mother. So please read the Bible although George Bernard Shaw said that the Bible is the most dangerous book in the world.
    Genesis 20: 12 Besides, she is indeed my sister, the daughter of my father though not the daughter of my mother, and she became my wife. What do you think of it?

  17. Ali Sina says:

    I always modify almost all my articles within 24 hours after I post them. It always occur to me I can say something to improve it, but after that I am generally satisfied with it and don’t change it.

  18. Aryan Hindu says:

    Indeed !!!!!!!!!!!

  19. Sanatan Dharma says:

    Dear Ali Sina
    Have you modified the article? I am reading this article third time. Now, many things looking have been explained very well which were not earlier.

  20. Ali Sina says:

    No Sara was not the sister of Abraham. It is unfortunate that Muslims are afraid of reading the Bible. Don’t be afraid. It is just a book. Here is what the Genesis 12 says about this story.

    Now there was a famine in the land, and Abram went down to Egypt to live there for a while because the famine was severe. 11 As he was about to enter Egypt, he said to his wife Sarai, “I know what a beautiful woman you are. 12 When the Egyptians see you, they will say, ‘This is his wife.’ Then they will kill me but will let you live. 13 Say you are my sister, so that I will be treated well for your sake and my life will be spared because of you.”

    14 When Abram came to Egypt, the Egyptians saw that Sarai was a very beautiful woman. 15 And when Pharaoh’s officials saw her, they praised her to Pharaoh, and she was taken into his palace. 16 He treated Abram well for her sake, and Abram acquired sheep and cattle, male and female donkeys, male and female servants, and camels.

    17 But the Lord inflicted serious diseases on Pharaoh and his household because of Abram’s wife Sarai. 18 So Pharaoh summoned Abram. “What have you done to me?” he said. “Why didn’t you tell me she was your wife? 19 Why did you say, ‘She is my sister,’ so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!” 20 Then Pharaoh gave orders about Abram to his men, and they sent him on his way, with his wife and everything he had.

  21. dssc7 says:

    Are there any jews and Christians in this forum. I want to ask you, is that true that Abraham and his wive Sarah have same father, and different mother? If the Bible is true, it means your religion allowed incest with half-brother. What do you think of it, Mr Ali Sina?

  22. i am a communist says:

    hi dear ali

    i could not resist the temptation to answer this BS. you took the pictures and the absurd story from this site.
    http://nationalreport.net/twins-separated-at-birt

    it is a satirical site. anyone can verify it. just go to the site and look for yourselves. dear folks. this BS is another of ali's taqqiyah. 
    ( another article worth mentioning at the site is this: http://nationalreport.net/assam-rape-festival-ind
    now i too can say that india is a prick country raping all its girl children in a carnival. and this site gave ample proof of it. see. it even  gives photo of naked pigs raping children. 

    absurd aint t??

    this crap is as absurd as that.

    one another BS of ali. phew.

  23. Agracean says:

    Mr Sakat, to oppose or follow yours truly is not important at all. Most importantly, you have to come to the same ultimate conclusion as my dear Ms Dr Ali Sina. That my loving Creator God exists and He loves you very much. Since you are so desperate for me to substantiate my 'tall' claims about my truthful belief, let me hereby prove to you then. Mr Sakat, where does the breath of life came from?

  24. narcole1919721 says:

    Yawning is healthy?…pfffttt….yawning is bored x'D

  25. narcole1919721 says:

    Oh good. talking about nur muhammad 🙂

  26. narcole1919721 says:

    See? wheres ur source? trying to use nuremberg method still? u didnt answer the question yet. anyway which ur proof that said jesus will never die. its clear in islam that jesus will die before doomsday. hmm…fake info, but acting as if u got the source? not gonna work. i see the pattern. oh one more, u mentioned, in quran and hadith…where? bring authentic source. im suspicuous about 'your' quran and hadith. why never same like mine? trying to trick ignorants with fake informations? 🙂

  27. narcole1919721 says:

    Hm? i was talking about a white guy from africa named Ahmad thomson who wrote the anti christ book. im reading it. sharpest one. well he already told how infidels talk about islam not from authentic source. Just like in nuremberg trials. and how hitler had been played as puppet and become scape goat. And the number of 6 millions victims is fiction. also that hitler was racist  excuse was camouflage to hide the real reasons behind his actions. also witnesses proved that it wasnt jews as victims, it was the jews who killed the victims. and it wasnt jews or race as hitlers targets, its actually the freemasons in america that hes against, and its not blind hatred toward race, but the policies of freemason members that influencing wold economy system, that sucking people from inside. but then freemasons made up stories about him from media,  as looney racist international criminal to hide the real hitlers purpose, and eliminated all witnesses in nuremberg trials. then brainwash people with media. another example is lord northcliff as the times owner, but got eliminated from his own media company for speaking the truth. and got slandered as mental in order to prevent him to speak what he witnessed to people. same method for ezra pound. this sytem which applied in nuremberg trials has been applied in here too. perfectly same. and whats weird, any effort to reveal it thats already done but suddenly and secretly can not be heard. include this book. the pdf can not be found on net cos of conspiracy. the book exists but no access to download it. 

  28. Sakat says:

    Grace,
    i am not opposing you, but do not guarantee that ,i am following you either .
    I do not follow anything/anyone upon theory; theory is belief ,and belief should be substantiate with profound experiment/proof .And i call upon you ,if you have one such ,i may be the first person to ,endorse your prophesy (provided if your tall claim can be practically proven in a given circumstances )of its existence .i wish all the best for you in your quest.

  29. ihateislam says:

    Charcoal/narcotics,
    Better listen to Nizam and stop being used and then laughed at by satan for as long as you remain in muhammadanism, you will always be satan's laughing stock.

  30. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Volume 8, Book 73, Number 242 :
    Narrated by Abu Huraira
    The Prophet said, "Allah likes sneezing and dislikes yawning, so if someone sneezes and then praises Allah, then it is obligatory on every Muslim who heard him, to say: May Allah be merciful to you (Yar-hamuka-l-lah). But as regards yawning, it is from Satan, so one must try one's best to stop it, if one says 'Ha' when yawning, Satan will laugh at him."
    Volume 8, Book 73, Number 245 :
    Narrated by Abu Huraira
    The Prophet said, "Allah loves sneezing but dislikes yawning; so if anyone of you sneezes and then praises Allah, every Muslim who hears him (praising Allah) has to say Tashmit to him. But as regards yawning, it is from Satan, so if one of you yawns, he should try his best to stop it, for when anyone of you yawns, Satan laughs at him."
    Here two Hadith are given means now narcole is in the queue of nasty. because in her religion his beloved prophet already instruct but she is doing means she also understand the benefit of  yawning and want a healthy brain. Well done!! Dear Sister, hope you will be out soon from this bog.

  31. Sakat says:

    Dr Ali ,
    You are truly exemplary ,really !!! ,i wish god ( if it is ) to give you long life ,you are the need of the hour for ,eradication of this ugly epidemic ,the whole humanity is phasing at this hour .I think this Mohammed definitely was the descended of cyclopes, 90 % of cyclopes today are Muslims (in context with your first picture in this article). If you encounter such human on the street and ask him what is his religion ,definitely it would be Islam and his name will be Mohammed .I don't want to insult such people ,but for their plight this Mohammed and his Allah's diktat of inbreeding are the sole reason .Nice article ,the learned Muslims should take some cue out ,instead of bringing Jews in this mess (Now Jews have realized its after effect ,but not these insects (Muslims).It is pity ,that they are the victims of their own belief.

  32. Agracean says:

    John 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

  33. ihateislam says:

    I guess your 'period' is here.

  34. ihateislam says:

    The ' Christian' was a Canadian woman who heard the question you asked on a muhammadan radio station in her country. She now teaches in an American college. If she had been familiar with muhammadanism' she would have discovered the utter deceit in the teaching. The quran calls Jesus "THE WORD AND SPIRIT OF GOD". If Jesus is what the quran says, how can He be separate from God? Muhammadanism teaches that man has a spirit which lives on when man dies. Does the body and spirit not come together to form man?
    Muhamadanism further holds that everyman must die (sura3:184). If it says that Jesus did not die, then the quran, as usual, contradicts itself and upholds Jesus' divinity.
    When Jesus came, that was God as man. When He died, it was the man who died but the Spirit lived and will forever live on. The Spirit is indestructible; whereas man is destructible.
    But in the quran and hadiths, allah prays and urges others to join it in worshiping another god. How can the supreme being pray to and worship another god? Allah, without any doubt, is an inferior deity, if at all.
    I hope that Canadian woman will also be exposed to this aspect of muhammadanism where allah prays.

  35. narcole1919721 says:

    The way to avoid sleep paralysis is by sleeping on right side with both hands on right cheek and neck very close to hands or arms. To get out from sleep paralysis is by getting touched. Either by someone or by own hand. 

  36. narcole1919721 says:

    A christian left christianity cos he found no christian could answer his questions..if Jesus is God, to whom was he praying? If Jesus was God, and if Jesus was crucified, then who supported the heavens and the earth for three days?

  37. narcole1919721 says:

    *yawns*

  38. Agracean says:

    Dear Ms Dr Ali Sina, through Science, we have discovered many other wonderful facts about this marvellous Universe in which we all live in, especially the awesome truth that God exists. But the sad truth is that many intelligent Scientists suddenly became too stupid and failed to acknowledge God and give Him the due glory. If they would have believe in God, they would realize the fact that in the beginning, the human gene pool is much purer then but it deteriorated over time as a result of the sin and evilness of man. This is the reason why incest is prohibited. In fact, if you observe the law of nature and you will arrive at the same conclusion as me that everything under heaven is dying because of sin.

  39. perfectchild says:

    “Marriage between cousins is cultural, rooted in a false religion. It has no psychological explanation and those who marry their cousins are not psychologically sick. They just don’ know better. It is normal and accepted by everyone. My uncle is married to his cousin. It is just normal and socially acceptable.” – Ali Sina

    Life is a game to be learned by every new child. They look to their parents and then to the world. For some, it is like falling through the fabric of nonsense, for most, they walk on it without a care. The hypnosis, honed throughout the generations as a meme, a coping strategy and justification of the absurd.

    “…those who marry their cousins are not psychologically sick”

    Every child in this kingdom has to unlearn the natural instinct to marry from outside the family – for the exotic – that non-monotheist civilizations throughout the world had learned to do to prevent disabled offspring, where there was not a Single God spreading his seed through His Chosen People.

    “Besides, she really is my sister, the daughter of my father though not of my mother; and she became my wife.“ – Abraham Genesis 20:12

    Abraham, the father of a religion of inbreds.

    A left-brain submission-existence. Where love is absent, fear becomes the substitution and the motivator. ‘I don’t love him, I respect his position’.

    A right-brain rights-existence. Where truth is absent, envy becomes the substitution and the motivator. ‘I don’t love him, I desire what he has’.

    “…those who marry their cousins are not psychologically sick”

    As those with same-sex attraction are not psychologically sick: ‘I don’t love him, I need what he has’.

    Why is an unbalanced brain not “psychologically sick”? Ah yes, ‘they know not what they do’, but they do know how to fight the sense out of all the children who do. They have educational classes just waiting for them.

  40. Agracean says:

    What is the absolute truth of the matter? You are a spirit. You have a soul and you live in a body.

  41. narcole1919721 says:

    Sleep paralysis is body being taken over by jin. Thats why hard to move body. The soul and other spirit struggling for one control. No wonder u experience sleep paralysis often, there jin inside of you 🙁

  42. Ali Sina says:

    I think most people have had sleep paralysis. If you can see your body lying in the bed from outside, it shows you are not your body. I never thought of it until now that I leaned about NDE.

  43. Phoenix says:

    The old people used to say that sleep paralysis is when a ghost is choking you.But it's just that your mind is awake while your body is still sound asleep.The trick is to visualize yourself rolling out of bed (might lead to an astral experience),instead of trying to physically move,because that's when fear creeps in and people start imagining ghosts are choking them or they've been abducted by aliens.

  44. Agracean says:

    Dear Ms Dr Ali Sina, I had the same out of the body experience when I was very young. It always happened in the middle of the night. I was halfway out of my body, in the spirit form and can see myself lying on the bed in the pitch dark room but couldn't move a bit at all. I tried to move my fingers and limb and even shout too, but to no avail.

  45. perfectchild says:

    I described sex with first cousins as a mother fixation, of the mother lineage.  This is opposite to the father fixation of an attraction to the unmotherly, to the boyish-girl and girlish-boy.  To steal an essence of manhood.

    The mother's boy, will be drawn to the mother's girl.  Islam has no fathers.  A child seeing him submit himself before the male Allah, means their identity comes from the mother, for no child joins with a dhimmi made female before God, when the 'lightly tapped'' is the feared real-thing.
    Their loyalty is to race.  Reverts are not true Arab Muslims.

  46. perfectchild says:

    So, when Jesus said he came solely for the sick in the House of Israel, he did not mean the psychological damage that denial of instinct wrought upon a person, with the untruths to conscience and adherence to cultural norms, but the physically sick and growing withered arms back;   because everything else "is just normal and socially accepted".

    Sleeping with your first cousin or a child bride, means a removal of the gag reflex, natural in most animals.  The first denial is that they are not an animal.  Then they place themselves above the kufar.  It is just normal and socially accepted as you say, among Muslims.

    As anal sex is normal amongst Homosexuals.  As cannibalism is for canibal kings.
    I can't beat your cultural relevatism Ali,   that the unsane appear sane in the asylum, but every child born is a new prisoner, that has to have its brain roasted to fit in, or be outcast.

    That because everyone else does it, then that  person cannot be possibly be ill.  In fact, let's take religious dellusion off the mental health definition because it is only ignorance and when they are simply told the truth, as you told your uncle, they are happy to hear it.  Good.   the truth set him free.
    Or did the reality a child can see, make him go beserk? To not use your brain makes it weaker, new ideas challenge deeply held beliefs; and an unbalanced brain… Oh wait for it… Is mentally ill.

  47. narcole1919721 says:

    Shhhhhh..dont speak about orang-utan…demsci will be mad o.o

  48. narcole1919721 says:

    Zzz…

  49. Ali Sina says:

    Marriage between cousins is cultural, rooted in a false religion. It has no psychological explanation and those who marry their cousins are not psychologically sick. They just don’ know better. It is normal and accepted by everyone. My uncle is married to his cousin. It is just normal and socially acceptable.

  50. perfectchild says:

    'there are psychological reasons that drive Homosexuality or sex between first cousins'

    That absence (felt as incompleteness filled by loneliness-fantasy or rejection-ragefulness), of  father or of  mother, respectively.

    The Homosexual has taken over the Fatherland, a creation of a fantasy-bond between inhabitants; whereas the first cousin imbiber is in to the Illusion of the Motherland.  

    Replacing one absent parent, or the other.

    Intoxicated through the neediness of drug-sex for a sense of worth and justification.  Destructive patterns of behavior that no boy or girl, targeted, seduced and abused will ever satisfy.

    Even to be titled and honored with a sacred month, will not escape them from the truth.

  51. Ali Sina says:

    The evidence that consciousness exists independent from body is overwhelming. There is no logical explanation to the videos that I selected and posted in this article except to admit that consciousness survives the death.

    I actually had a couple of sleep paralysis when I was very young. I was half out of my body looking at my own face from a foot away. The rest of me was inside my body but my head and part of torso was out. I could see my sleepy face. But I could not move a limb. I knew that if I could just move a finger or if someone shook me or called my name I would wake up. I even tried to shout or make a noise, but was not able, Now this was not dream. I could see everything in the room and myself. A lot of people have sleep paralysis.

  52. HA HA says:

    did you ask for the story of Muhammad on a bed ? I would love to listen as well

  53. ihateislam says:

    Oh, you succeeded to escape from the orang- utan.

  54. Phoenix says:

    Einstein wasn't a practicing Jew,but an ex-Atheist turned Deist.

  55. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    @Eagle,

    Why are you giving here the example of Jews while your beloved prophet and Imagynery Allah have given you certificate that you are the best Ummah of this world in Surah 3:110 Kuntum khayra ommatin okhrijat lilnnasi ta/muroona bialmaAAroofi watanhawna AAani almunkari watu/minoona biAllahi walaw amana ahlu alkitabi lakana khayran lahum minhumu almu/minoona waaktharuhumu alfasiqoona
    You are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.
     and your beloved Prophet Mu-hum-mad told about Jews they are rat in Hadith  Sahi Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 524 :
    Narrated by Abu Huraira
    The Prophet said, "A group of Israelites were lost. Nobody knows what they did. But I do not see them except that they were cursed and changed into rats, for if you put the milk of a she-camel in front of a rat, it will not drink it, but if the milk of a sheep is put in front of it, it will drink it." I told this to Ka'b who asked me, "Did you hear it from the Prophet ?" I said, "Yes." Ka'b asked me the same question several times.; I said to Ka'b. "Do I read the Torah? (i.e. I tell you this from the Prophet.)
    Quran Also say they are Pig, Monkeys  Surah 2:65 Walaqad AAalimtumu allatheena iAAtadaw minkum fee alssabti faqulna lahum koonoo qiradatan khasi-eena
    And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be you monkeys, despised and rejected." 
    5:60 Qul hal onabbi-okum bisharrin min thalika mathoobatan AAinda Allahi man laAAanahu Allahu waghadiba AAalayhi wajaAAala minhumu alqiradata waalkhanazeera waAAabada alttaghooti ola-ika sharrun makanan waadallu AAan sawa-i alssabeeli
    Say: "Shall I point out to you something much worse than this, (as judged) by the treatment it received from Allah? those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath, those of whom some He transformed into apes and swine, those who worshipped evil;- these are (many times) worse in rank, and far more astray from the even path!
    7:166 Falamma AAataw AAan ma nuhoo AAanhu qulna lahum koonoo qiradatan khasi-eena
    When in their insolence they transgressed (all) prohibitions, We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected." So how can you give the example of Jews and Christians both are apes, swine, Rats and Lizards but Muslims the best Ummah, but your post showing that Jews are better than Muslims because everyone give example that is greater than them.

  56. narcole1919721 says:

    Deviations in chronological, physiological, anatomical, psychological, educational, and socio-industrial age.
    Wallin, J. E. Wallace
    What attributes or aspects of a child's nature are subject to retardations or accelerations? Probably every phase of his complicated make-up is subject to deviation. A child is a composite of different stages of maturity, or of different "ages." He is a multiple-aged creature, each "age" depending upon the stage of development of a given attribute. Little has been affirmed regarding a child when he is said to be ten years of age. He must be considered as having not one age, but many ages, among which profound variations and discrepancies may be found. This will appear from a brief consideration of the variations which occasionally occur in six of his "ages": chronological age, physiological age, anatomical age, psychological age, educational/pedagogical age, and socio-industrial age or competency level.

  57. narcole1919721 says:

    Lol sarah wasnt abrahams daughter

  58. narcole1919721 says:

    *yawns* what a long trip…forgot recent posts sent before….hmm….someone mailed me using my new account [email protected] and asked my opinion about incest…..i was like…hm? Is it important? Oh…now i got it. Sina is seeking attention again by trying to pick controversion as subject….aww…but i need to rest…and it seems i gotta move again..hmmm….sina…can you pick topic that can make me feel really excited?

  59. cchuckc says:

    @Eagle,
    //Jews are without question one of the most intelligent and goal driven human groups on earth. //
    And the muslims aren't. This proves that inbreeding, which is prevalent among the Muslims, isn't the reason for Jews to be in such position.

  60. Ali Sina says:

    Science says that inbreading increases the chance of producing defective children. There are many retards also among the Jews. This practice is scientifically wrong.

  61. Eagle says:

    Another Jew:
    Mayer Rothschild successfully kept the fortune in the family with carefully arranged marriages, often between first or second cousins (similar to royal intermarriage). 
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family

  62. Eagle says:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsa_Einstein

    So, Einstein being a scientist liked incest marriage!

  63. Eagle says:

    Charles Darwin and his wife Emma were first cousins.

     In western culture, they have been legal in most jurisdictions through most of history and were considered socially acceptable until the first half of the 20th century; indeed, they were the norm in royal families, with Queen Victoria-Albert and William-Mary being two of numerous examples. However, in recent years, such marriages are often stigmatized in parts of the Western world.

  64. Eagle says:

    As a consequence of isolation in all Jewish ghettos, the stage of Europe was set for an accelerated rate of
    Jewish evolution. Just as the Mennonites and Amish tended to mate only within their religious group, the Jews in these early ghettos had to have become rather inbred as a result of their physical and religious isolation. While most of these groups may have experienced no genetic difficulties as a result of inbreeding, it is certain that some groups began to have serious genetic problems. As the various isolated Jewish ghettos began to communicate with other ghettos throughout Europe is it rather certain that admonitions against close inbreeding became a fact of their lives. With little doubt, however, the major effect upon European Jews within a hostile Christian community may have been a very strong selection upon Jewish groups as well as individuals to succeed and to avoid falling into a fatal confrontation with the larger surrounding community bent upon nearly any excuse to take out their frustrations upon them. In general, the rate of evolutionary change is directly proportional to the strength of selecting factors. The evolutionary pressure upon the Jewish populations of Europe throughout the last 5 or 600 years must have been enormous. Today, Jews are without question one of the most intelligent and goal driven human groups on earth.

  65. Nizamuddin Sheikh says:

    Dear KnowTheEnemy,

    They believe only on the word of Maulwi and maulwi are also stupid who only know the some Hadith and Quran except this they don't know what is going on in this world but they know India, America & Israel are the great enemies of True Muslims (Not All Muslims) and they always use these words in their taqreer-e-juma Mubarak. So, he express himself, this is not his fault this is the fault of Islam who teach them to believe on Quran, Mu-hum-mad, Mulla and all blind & brain dead zombie's who talk about Allah, Mu-hum-mad and Sahabi.

  66. knowTheEnemy says:

    I don't know much about the prevalence of cousin-marriage among Jews, but your claim regarding Einstein is incorrect and missing vital details. It was Einstein's second marriage that was with his first cousin. The vital detail that you are missing here is that they never had any biological children. The two children that Einstein reared like his own were from the cousin's previous marriage.

    Einstein's first marriage was with Mileva Maric who was not his cousin.

    And just in case you are wondering, Einstein's parents were NOT cousins either!

  67. test says:

    Could you please change the first picture as I/we am/are unable to concentrate on the article.

  68. test says:

    and still they produce non-defective piece with certain lineage disease only.

  69. Eagle says:

    Hi AliSina,

    Before second world war and after, jews were practicing cousin marriage heavily due to the hate system developed agaist them. At other instance Jews wants to circulate the money within their family as another reason for their incest marriage. Einstein first marrige is with his cousin only.

  70. DREAMLAND says:

    Bro its the HOLY SPIRIT which teaches us when we meditate on the word of GOD

  71. ihateislam says:

    DREAMLAND,
    I never understood that verse this way until now.

  72. DREAMLAND says:

    Off topic,but i am posting the truth.  
    1 KINGS 19:18 says, Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the KNEES which have not BOWED unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not KISSED him. In this verse we can clearly see that allah is none other than baal and they are continuing the old practice of kissing the stone and kneeling for prayer.

  73. amitkumar12 says:

    there are psycological resons that drive for homosextuality or sex between first cousines. Strange article by an athiest. we are not just biological but we are it and one english statement (biology) cannot explain. just like loneliness can create homosextual behaviour.
    Rest it is just like a holy book article.  

  74. ihateislam says:

    Why anyone should be preoccupied with incest defies easy solution. If some people consider it proper to marry or have sex with their siblings they may as well find it convenient to do the same with their 'matured' daughters since "no one will be hurt and there is consent". The offspring of such a union will be a child/sibling to the mother and a child/grandchild to the father. How does that sound? There are billions of people of opposite gender available for any type of relationship all over the world. To think of incest smacks of a psychological problem.

  75. Phoenix says:

    Stuck C doens't surprise me at all.The more I learn about philisophical materialism ,and the justifications for eliminating moral principles under the banner of Progressivism,the more I see pathologies in our socieities.
    Under philisophical materialism incest,bestiality and pedophilia is allowed and any defects in offspring born of incest will be killed as is the case in North Korea.

  76. Ali Sina says:

    I don’t know why you refuse to read the article, or if you read it why you can’t see that your question is answered.

    Incest is morally wrong and even animals instinctively know it. Animals don’t have religion.

    Most humans know sex with one’s cousin is incest and don’t do it. Muslims practice it heavily. So this is the reverse of what you hypothesize. Here we have a religion that encourages incest when people who don’t follow Islam know it is wrong and don’t do it. This alone is evidence that your claim that without religion everyone will start dong incest is false.

    Homosexuality is a different case. It is not immoral. It is a disorder and it harms no one. Homosexuality should not be criminalized. Harassing the homosexuals should be criminalized.

    Incest affects the offspring and therefore it must remain a crime. In Canada you could go to jail if you are convicted of committing incest. Canadian laws are not inspired by a religion. They are secular.

    Furthermore, I explained the spiritual damage of incest. Again spirituality has nothing to do with religion. There are many people who believe in God and afterlife but not in any religion. I am one of them.

  77. StuckC says:

    Well i don't know why you are taking this towards science and offspring. All i wanted to ask was how can a secular say it is wrong when they say homosexuality or any other form of sex is ok due to the above three reasons. By ok i don't mean ok for having kids, by ok i mean't if anyone can say there is anything wrong in that morally. Not because they produce kids , just random pleasure sex.

  78. perfectchild says:

    In sex a Muslim male plows what his right hand possesses.  A Taoist entwines to merge energies.

    The Muslim does not lack in anything order to complete with an equal-opposite – but is in love with his Divinely Handed Down superiority – so there is nothing natural or magnanimous  about him.  There is no season or concern about the female.  A little girl could draw on  him and he'd  beg  his uncle for her.

    Prepubescence would awaken him because The Powerless always seek ways to reinforce they are not really Allah's Slave-Bitch.  To try to get that sense of power back by other proofs.  Rape is so common, that they make it that four Muslim men have testify against a Muslim male before a crime is said to be committed.  Now who's going to do that if the girl was not chaperoned?

    Man is first of water and then of spirit.  A Muslim is first of spirit then of water.  He is not born a second time in order to gain consciousness, but surgically repaired to gain  the ability to breathe properly.  In a Socialist kingdom, the sickie is king living in a purpose built property demanding more rooms for the children.

  79. Ali Sina says:

    Although rape does happen in animal kingdom, generally sex is consensual. If the female does not come to heat, there is nothing a male can do to make her do it.

  80. Ali Sina says:

    Moreover, Islam encourages incest among cousins. But science say it is wrong and non-Muslims don't practice it. So here you have a clear case that goes against your hypothesis that religion prevents incest. In this case, it is science and logic that prevents incest while Islam allows it.

  81. Ali Sina says:

    @StuckC But the views of Keith Pulman contradict science. It is a fact that inbeading produces defective offspring. A good example are white tigers. All white tigers are decedents of a single litter. Humans have made them to inbread to create an exotic tiger. This has caused ill health and deformities in white tigers who are all blood related. I see that as a cruelty to animals.

    The same is true in regards to degus. Only ten of them were brought to North America from Chili and all the degus soled in pet shops are from that limited gene stuck. They get sick often and are not very healthy. I hope they have introduced more new genes by now.

    The views of Keith are not based on fact. He probably defends his own immoral practice. Other than that I see no reason why would any sane person defend incest. In this article I quoted the BBC that says a third of retard and deformed Children are from Muslim families who represent only 3% of the population. If inbreading is not the cause what other explanation one can give?

  82. day says:

    An animal cannot consent but maybe yeah.

  83. perfectchild says:

    Sex is to orgasm as love is to enrapture.

    The doing gratification and the being gratification.

    To be real, and not an addictive personality seeking an emptiness crying out to be filled, is to respond and not react to the overt sexual stimulation of culture – repressive of oppressive.

    Then the selection of a good host, care provider and companion can be guessed at by courtship by parents or child.  The rest is personal growth and shared experience.

    The fetishized and inverted however,  have swapped identities to become their fixations or their rejections, and exchange partners for sycophants as the solution to why things did not work out.

    You can breed a human or a meme.   Such is death becoming new life in any form it can.

  84. StuckC says:

    Exactly, That was my question. I thought the same thing. Just wanted his Ali Sina's views on it. Without the religious restriction sex between a brother and sister will not be wrong. Even sex between a girl or an animal . If she is willing.

  85. Keith Pullman says:

    National Report is fiction. It is satire. That picture is bogus. There is no secular reason to criminalize sex between consenting adults, even if they are closely related. Most child born to close relatives are healthy, and most places that still have laws against consensual incest allow people with obvious, serious, known genetic diseases and defects to marry, have children, etc. The "birth defects" argument is a smokescreen. Once Islam or any other religious prohibition is thrown out, there is no good reason to deny these lovers.

  86. sanatandharma86 says:

    @test
    I do not what you are talking about But I know Muhammad pedophile had not left even his daughter. He married with 6 years old child girl in his sixties. The girl was younger than even his own his daughter Fatima.

  87. pberaldo says:

    The first picture is scary.

  88. Ali Sina says:

    @StuckC

    This article is entirely my opinion and it covers your question exhaustively. If you don't want to read it, you don't want the answer to the question. If you have new questions I will try to answer, if I can. The question you are asking is already answered.

  89. DPhysicist says:

    Its a very delicate topic… but an important one…

  90. StuckC says:

    No it did not. I asked just for your opinion. Not for what other people say. In the scenario that i have presented, do you think there is anything wrong with a brother having sex with his sister.

  91. Ali Sina says:

    This whole article answers that very question. Did you read it?

  92. ihateislam says:

    Another in the series of great articles by Ali Sina. Quite impressive.

  93. test says:

    Brahma married to his own daughter Sarasawati!

  94. StuckC says:

    What my question is this. If two guys have sex then the notion of having an offspring is out. Another notion that is out is of it being illegal as in some countries it is ok to do so. Also many people say since they are adults and happy and not hurting anyone so this is "ok" as well. There is nothing wrong with it. What if a brother and sister have sex. In private, having no offspring out of it, no one finds out , both are adults and happy to do what they did. So for you Ali Sina will this be ok?  Yes ,why ?No ,why? What i mean by ok is that will you say this is wrong or not?

  95. Agracean says:

    "The Alpha and Omega, the Cause of all the universe's existence was hurting because a mere Earth child was hurting. Oh, what Love! What Understanding! It was so far beyond anything a mere Earthling can understand. Oh how precious just one, little, insignificant Earth child is to that Great God" – Howard Pittman

  96. Agracean says:

    Dear Ms Dr Ali Sina, I'm really glad to know that finally, you do admit the fact that we are spiritual beings. Now that you believe that God exists and that we are all spiritual beings. Do you believe that angels and demons exist too? Rev Howard Pittman had a NDE and the angels brought him to the Second Heaven in which he was shown different types of demons. Please read the contents in this link carefully and realized that you can trust our dear Lord Jesus Christ and His Words. http://www.near-death.com/forum/nde/000/89.html

  97. Tekk says:

    this is no more religion, this is morality problem<img src="http://tinyurl.com/c7l9ck6&quot; width="1">

  98. sanatandharma86 says:

    @Ali Sina
    That is why in Hinduism marriage in same gotra(clan) prohibited.
    It is common practice in preparation for Hindu marriage to inquire about the kula-gotra (meaning clan lineage) of the bride and groom before approving the marriage. In almost all Hindu families, marriage within the same gotra is prohibited, since people with same gotra are considered to be siblings.
    The meaning of ‘gotra’ is a path, family line, genealogy  Rigveda mantra 10/85/21 states that marriage of boy and girl must not be performed within gotra. 
    According to Rigveda Mantra 10/85/21 marriage should always be solemnized with girl from different gotra. 
    Manusmriti Shloka 3/5 states that the girl who is away from the six generations of parents is only to be married.

  99. Akshat says:

    Thanks Ali,

     I am thankful that my search brought me here. Your words seems to be coming from a divine source.

  100. Phoenix says:

    The Quran has many laws that are supposedly moral but it also has laws (rather anomalies)that give muslims the right to deviate from those prescribed laws.That's because Muhammad was unable to practice some sort of constraint and often succumbed to every lustful,greedy and violent thought.

  101. Phoenix says:

    No, the law cannot make exceptions. It is like saying is it okay to cross a red light if one does so with caution."

    If it has an exception,then it cannot be a law.The exception falsifies the law.

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