Jinns and Shooting Stars
Like his Bedouin contemporaries, Muhammad believed in shadowy beings and ghosts. These mythical creatures were known as Jinn. Muhammad spoke extensively about jinns. He told his followers that jinns were made of fire. They stand on each other’s shoulders all the way to heaven to eavesdrop to the conversation of the “exalted assembly” (mala-e a’la). Exalted Assembly, or Assembly of high was a term used by Sumerians to refer to the ancient reunion of gods representing the Sumerian pantheons, presided over by An and Enlil. Muhammad believed that meteorites are missiles thrown by angels to deter jinns from eavesdropping.
And (the Jinn who had listened to the Qur’an said): We had sought the heaven but had found it filled with strong warders and meteors. And we used to sit on places (high) therein to listen. But he who listeneth now findeth a flame in wait for him. Q. 72: 8-9
He repeated the same absurd idea again.
”We have indeed decked the lower heaven with beauty (in) the stars, (For beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious evil spirits, (So) they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side, Repulsed, for they are under a perpetual penalty, Except such as snatch away something by stealth, and they are pursued by a flaming fire, of piercing brightness. Q. 37: 6/10
And
“And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire. Q. 67: 5
The universe envisioned by Muhammad, belongs to the realm of fairytale. The Earth for him was flat were the Sun raised from seas in one end and sets in the muddy waters on the other end. In Arabic, the word “sama” means both heaven and sky. Muhammad, just like his contemporaries, did not make any distinction between the two. He said heaven (sky) is made of seven layers and placed the stars in the lowest layer, lower than the Moon. Then he envisioned jinns standing on each other’s shoulders all the way to heaven to eavesdrop to the discussion of the “Exalted Assembly”. He thought stars are lamps hanging from the dome of the sky to adorn the lower heaven. When jinns climb on each other to eavesdrop, heaven’s guardian angels grab a star and hurl it at the jinns to scare them. Can any reasonable person today accept this kind of balderdash? What ancient people called shooting starts are meteorites – tiny rocks that glow when they enter the atmosphere of the earth. Stars are suns thousands of light years away from us. Apart from the fact that the idea of jinns is ridiculous, can they really stand on each other to reach the presence of gods? Which gods? If God is one, what is this “exalted assembly” he was talking about? As absurd as it may be, today’s Muslims still believe in the jinns. If it is written in Quran, then it must be true, as far as they are concerned. Rejecting this foolish idea is tantamount to rejecting the Quran.’
The following hadiths confirm the above story.
Narrated ‘Aisha: I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “The angels descend, the clouds and mention this or that matter decreed in the Heaven. The devils listen stealthily to such a matter, come down to inspire the soothsayers with it, and the latter would add to it one-hundred lies of their own.”[ Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 432]
Narrated ‘Aisha: Some people asked the Prophet regarding the soothsayers. He said, “They are nothing.” They said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Some of their talks come true.” The Prophet said, “That word which happens to be true is what a Jinn snatches away by stealth (from the Heaven) and pours it in the ears of his friend (the foreteller) with a sound like the cackling of a hen. The soothsayers then mix with that word, one hundred lies.”[ Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 93, Number 650]
Muslims are convinced that jinns are real. If it is in the Quran it must be real. The thought that the Quran can be false does not enter their minds. The following is an article published in the Islamic Republic of Iran.
The article says that after the confirmation by the religions
authorities in the Emirate states, several newspapers have published this picture. An Arab youth, after hearing strange noises coming from a cave in the region of Jaliyah in the Emirates, took his camera and entered the cave. There he saw a strange creature that looked like a jinn. The photographer died as the result of a heart attack. When his friends and the police entered the cave, they found his cameral next to his body and found the picture of this jinn inside the camera. This picture and news has been published in the Emirate newspapers and was broadcast from television. The following picutre reveals the truth. 
These kinds of hoaxes are common among Muslims. These are the “miracles” that keep Muslims’ faith alive.
The following images are from the book Prophet Muhammad Illustrated
Puranas were adulterated with time ,there is knowledge thr as well but adulterations are easy to pick out. There are some texts that were deliberately manipulated by the british who had employed a team including sanskrit scholars to manipulate texts . Though you are right these adulterations are noticed and rejected by hindus. Some adulterations are present in the bible as well. The source of knowledge in the end are the vedas , upanishads and geeta from mahabharat and other sanskrit texts like patanjali yoga sutras which have been preserved without manipulations through thousands of years
@Dervis
/The Hindu book and the bible wash b4 you pray we do us Muslims it says don't eat pork we don't as Muslims it says don't idol worship and put and object b4 your creator we don't idol worship it's a sin why would you don't make sense to put up a picture or Mary and Jesus and pray silly really even as Muslims/
Why a Muslim shouldn't eat PORK,what harm is there………………..You guy's are OK with meat then!.Look idol worship is far better than worshiping 6 year old girls by 54 year old psycho's.Don't compare your pedophile,road robber,killer ,mass murderer ,narcissist ,misogynist Mohammed and his alter-ego Allah to Jesus ,Buddha ,Moses and the true God they believed. Your Qur'an is a war manual ,it only sanctions killing of infidels!. Your Quran say's earth is flat ?sun sets in the murky water ,earth is the center of the Universe…………
If the Quran is God's revelations—why it contains all these misleadings?.You 1.5 billion useless people are burden on this earth–you are wasting the precious oxygen.What is that you achieve by praying 5 time a day ? you are wasting the productive hours on this useless rough Allah.Don't you have any shame ? ,others are working and you are spending valuable time worshiping Allah ,for paradise.You can find paradise here itself ,provided you leave this crap Mohammed and his wild preachings.
And this one proves in the bible john 5:30 that Jesus isa is not god here you go…….By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
New Living Translation
I can do nothing on my own. I judge as God tells me. Therefore, my judgment is just, because I carry out the will of the one who sent me, not my own will.
English Standard Version
“I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me.
Mathew 26:39 from the bible how Jesus prayed just like Muslims do. And if Jesus ..isa was god why does he prey to god. Check this it's says it in your I mean our bible incil..Jesus Prays at Gethsemane
…38Then He said to them, "My soul is deeply grieved, to the point of death; remain here and keep watch with Me." 39And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, "My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will." 40And He came to the disciples and found them sleeping, and said to Peter, "So, you men could not keep watch with Me for one hour?…
Then said Jesus: `With your words I am not consoled, because where ye hope for light darkness shall come; but my consolation is in the coming of the messenger, who shall destroy every false opinion of me, and his faith shall spread and shall take hold of the whole world, for so hath God promised to Abraham our father. And that which giveth me consolation is that his faith shall have no end, but shall be kept inviolate by God.'
The priest answered: `After the coming of the messenger of God shall other prophets come?'
Jesus answered: `There shall not come after him true prophets sent by God, but there shall come a great number of false prophets, whereat I sorrow. For Satan shall raise them up by the just judgement of God, and they shall hide themselves under the pretext of my gospel.'
Herod answered: `How is it a just judgement of God that such impious men should come?'
Jesus answered: `It is just that he who will not believe in the truth to his salvation should believe in a lie to his damnation. Wherefore I say unto you, that the world hath ever despise the true prophets and loved the false, as can be seen in the time of Michaiah and Jeremiah. For every like loveth his like.'
Then said the priest: `How shall the Messiah be called, and what sign shall reveal his coming?'
Jesus answered: `The name of the Messiah is admirable, for God himself gave him the name when he had created his soul, and placed it in a celestial splendour. God said: "Wait Mohammed; for thy sake I will to create paradise, the world, and a great multitude of creatures, whereof I make thee a present, insomuch that whoso bless thee shall be blessed, and whoso shall curse thee shall be accursed. When I shall send thee into the world I shall send thee as my messenger of salvation, and thy word shall be true, insomuch that heaven and earth shall fail, but thy faith shall never fail." Mohammed is his blessed name.'
Then the crowd lifted up their voices, saying: `O God, send us thy messenger: O Mohammed, come quickly for the salvation of the world!'
The dialogue between Jesus and God
"Wherefore when God shall come to judge, my words like a sword shall pierce each one [ of them] that believe me to be more than man."
The above words of Jesus (peace be on him) remind us of the Day of Judgement, when Jesus has to answer God if he had called himself son of God. In fact, the dialogue between Jesus and God on that day is given in the Holy Quran, as below.
And behold! God will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God'?"
He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. "Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship God, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things. "If Thou dost punish them, they are Thy servant: If Thou dost forgive them, Thou art the Exalted in power, the Wise."
God will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal Home: God well-pleased with them, and they with God: That is the great salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires). To God doth belong the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is therein, and it is He Who hath power over all things. (The Holy Quran, 5:119-123)
Look here who made every thing you see not man. The books b4 the Quran was the Torah and then the bible incil and last the Quran as a guidance to man with different prophets to show and make man understand the ways of being good and to love each prophet had a different mission here on earth now check this the Torah has been changed by man and most of the followers of the Torah don't believe in Jesus ie isa and you know what kind of people they are and what they get up to. They see them selfs as above all humans and practice kabhla magic as they did in the time of Moses and Jesus and they still do it till this day while controlling all the banks etc do your research. Now my Christian brothers it says in your book which has been changed by man so many times it's unreal you have so many versions of the bible it's funny so where the true bible from god it been hidden away because they know what it contains it contains truth like the gospels of barnabas to back up the Quran it says I. The Hindu book and the bible wash b4 you pray we do us Muslims it says don't eat pork we don't as Muslims it says don't idol worship and put and object b4 your creator we don't idol worship it's a sin why would you don't make sense to put up a picture or Mary and Jesus and pray silly really even as Muslims we have the most high respect for them both .in the bible it says how Jesus fell on his face to prey as do Muslims . And we prey 5 times and wash five times a day so as Muslims we show our devotion to our creator more than any other religion you get you silly brain wasted people Jew push their faces and torsos to a wall….. Hindus… Put toys in a shrine and prey… Christians prey to man made pitchers and sing songs and leave gold as a gift in churches Buddhists prey to a large gold man lol. I think the last book of our creator Allah has been sent down by the last prophet to correct all the other books because man has misunderstood them. With his way and Allah has sent the last book to put us on the right track as a way of life you can not test the Quran man can not do that at all. You can't change it so people who think they know it all just pick it up and read it to see its revelation to man and woman one last thing god is the most high the best of every thing and the most powerful and he can do all things where he is just by saying let it be and it will be. So why would he come to earth as a man ie Jesus put him self on a cross and kill him self for our sins….???? When he can forgive us for our Sins from heaven ask your self that you silly brains Jesus was a very loving caring prophet who was most favored by Allah he was just a man a messenger of god just like the prophets b4 him so to my Christian brothers don't read the gospels of John because John is a English pub name a man living in the time of Jesus in Jerusalem would not be called john do you get it so read the gospels of barnabas selamalyekum to the true followers
Rahul just stop u don't get it
You are so so so lost you silly human you go watch movies eat junk food watch crap read crap and become crap you have no clue your eyes and heart are lost just like you humans who think like this lost puppy. their is a place for humans like you and just wait for your creators Jugement to upon you ohhhhhhh boy I feel sorry for you so tale pleasure in this earn with the crap you do and wait to your soul goes to that place you are empty LOST beyond belief …..
you black stone kissing idol worshipper . no we have problem with only islam.
it is a third grade rapist religion. our religion is not actually a religion it is dharma . which you pedo followers won't understand.
Ps: in every madrassa there is a hatred against hindus. first talk about it.
@UrBoss
Your mad muhammad lured for 6 year old girl Ayesha. 53 year old man(muhammad) kept raping 9 year old Ayesha.That old man lusted for own daughter-in-law and raped her.When he was young of age 20, he lured for 45year old Khadija. He enslaved thousands of woman and had sex with them.
Is rapist,pedophile,looter,murderer,pimp worthy to be worshiped ?
Don't you know that your ancestors were frightened,raped, butchered to convert into Islam forcefully by Arabian intruders?
wow look at all idol worshipping HINDUS hating lol first of all y'all have no say in this cause u guys are not people of the book like Muslims Jews Christains Catholics and etc…… u guys sit here behind ur computers and bash our beloved prophets like Moses, Jesus, Muhammad and Mary (not a prophet) ur not only insulting islam but other religions who also believe in them. I'm sorry to burst ur bubble but ur religion is a myth like the greek god even the greeks have moved on from mythology and believe in a higher being (GOD) not gods made of clay like u guys do. grow up and stop praying to action figures. I'm sorry i had to do this way but i read to many insulting comments towards muslims from hindus. i can go on but i will stop it here
sorry but we don't. May Allah guide you.
Sorry but back then the name came from the beloved sister, of Moses peace be upon him, Maryam and when Maryam came with Jesus peace be upon him everyone referred to the title she was born with. Her title was Mariam, sister of AARON. so im sorry you got another fact wrong. There are no contradictions so writing a blank book is a waste of time. Just for info rajeshn1091 according to human rights we have a right to religion so you can follow your and I can follow mine. Just as well, the contradictions weren't going to make anyone convert to hinduism or sikhism or what you believe. After being a Muslim, the Truth of Allah will be a mark you will never forget. May Allah be please with you otherwise.
Source : now a days Arabs are called e.g. Imran bin Saleh bin Ibrahim , so you kind of know where i am coming from. It makes sense as just as we have Mr John they had titles. Go to history lessons then with facts contradicts a religion, after all it is your opinion but at least get it RIGHT.
read quran and pray namaz than no jinn coming and last respect women andLast suggestion – We must respect the name of Allah is written on newspaper, magazine and if you find it than please preserve to respectable place.
noaman
Rajeshn1091. A tafsir of 19:27-28 clearly states that Haroon was another pious man during the time of Umm Iesa
Dear Rahul.
I dont know anything about hinduism , so i keep silent on this issue. what you have learned about hinduism is by the course of your life time. you have your freedom to follow or reject it. but one thing i'm sure that if you could study the very basics of islam , you will be impressed. try to learn it before you speak. islam is not everything that muslims do. islam is what our god said. just dont judge a religion by seeing a very few of its followers. it is not nice to say that all hindus are bad because they killed muslims in gujarat.the people did it. not the religion.
It is a pure stupidity that ali sina talks about something he is not aware of. Do you think that you can make fool of every muslims with your ridiculous cartoons and self extracted meanings? As far as i'm concerned, it is Islam or nothing.If you could suggest me a religion as perfect as islam, ii swear that i will convert. Until then you remain a stupid in front of me as wells as other muslims.
When you say "EVERY BODY HAS RIGHT TO WORSHIP WHAT THEY THINK", does the muhammadan think that everyone has such a right of belief? What about Muhammad's injunction that the muhammadan has to wage war until everyone proclaims that there is no god but allah and Muhammad was its prophet? Has that been proscribed? Does the muhammadan believe in waiting for judgment day for the determination of who is correct and who is wrong? YOU HYPOCRITE.
dont conclude that islam is false every body has rights to worship what they think is right . believe in what you think is right .leave the muslims alone with their believes ,day of judgement we shall meet the truthss
Chuck…u…sina..z..z
*rubs eyes* nyam…mm? watcha talkin bout. i didnt nap for tarawih cos of u. u distract my ibadah with ur silly questions..when will dajjal be killed? why dont u ask when will you die and how many years in grave….*yawns* zzz…chucky doll..*nightmare*
@narcole1919721
//you still dont understand einstein theory// if you are talking about General Theory of Relativity then I understand it far better than you would ever.
@narcole1919721 ,
Cut your crap. Stay on the subject or get lost. You couldn't even answer in how many years dajjal will be killed? Whether in finite or in infinite number of years.
//ashabul kahfi who slept 309 years which all abrahamic religions admitted them//
This is only a legend and not mentioned in any scripture other than Kuran (Q 18: 7- 26). You are referring to the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus and Quran couldn't even give their exact count!!
Musailamah got killed by order of caliph abu bakar cos he tortured n killed some sahabat until syahid. so whats ur point by talking about musailamah. ur not here for musailamah followers. ur here for muslims. not for other religion. islam is important to u. u cant deny. ur confused why many people still embrace islam while fasiqin and munafiqin keep creating chaos around the world. you cant differ muslimin, mukminin, fasiqin, munafiqin, mushrikin and kafirin, even protected innocent kafirin and zhalim kafirin whose actions hurt others. you just generalize all into muhammadans and non muhammadans.
Now please answer about ashabul kahfi who slept 309 years which all abrahamic religions admitted them? and also uzair, jewish prophet? also can u explain phenomenon an old main with wheelchair lost for a year and came out from ka2bahs door alive without food, and he said it felt only few hour not a year? and a man trapped with woods around his body cos of disaster years ago but still alive without food? one day in heaven is 1000 years in this world. you still dont understand einstein theory, it seems. dajjal is a human who has knowledge from angel. malaikat saved him and taught him lots of things more than ordinary humans know, but hes not grateful, even thinks high of himself, and wanna be a god. hes an extraordinary man, and only extra ordinary man like jesus who can defeat him. hes here to test us with his fitnah.
@Guest
//That adds up to only three … if you use the word "infested" I would expect a large number.//
Sorry to tell you but you seem to be more interested in semantics than what has been said. Just to satiate you let me add two more Sajjah bint Harith and Tulayhah al azdi.
That adds up to only three … if you use the word "infested" I would expect a large number.
@narcole1919721
//Omg did u even read my post in samaratian that jesus will descend and kill dajjal and marry and then die as human?//
No I haven't. But I now that theory. It doesn't prove anything. Actually it proves the opposite. Lets assume it happens. We know Jesus was around 2000 years ago. Human don't live that long. It makes no logical sense to assume that such a 'person' as Jesus would be striving for a marriage after God knows how many years and then die.
Can you say in how many years dajjal will be killed? 100? 1000? Or infinite time later? I asked your venerable scholar @Shabeer the same question zillions of time, he never dared to reply.
@narcole1919721,
//Musaylamah came after prophet died.// First, you are wrong. Don't talk about a subject you know little about. in fact he even wrote to Muhammad in around 10 Hijri ascribing the title "Messenger of God" for both himself and Muhammad.
Second. I was talking about the period of 7th century Arabia it is inclusive of Muhammad's time but not exclusively only during the time he was alive.
Omg did u even read my post in samaratian that jesus will descend and kill dajjal and marry and then die as human? iqra2 dear!
@narcole1919721
//jesus is human. creature. god is the creator. And the creation of jesus just like the creation of adam.//
Its very easy to point out the contradiction. Read you very next post
// Jesus never died. ….. god raised jesus to heaven to save him. //
A creature WOULD HAVE died whether or not on the cross!! Muhammad died, for example, and nobody came to take him to heaven.
@narcole1919721,
Do you even understand what is a 'scope' of discussion? Here I am only explaining how the Christian belief quashes @Jared's assertion. This has nothing to do with whether such a belief in Trinity is correct or not. IT IS BEYOND THE SCOPE. It doesn't mean that I don't understand the concept
Lol why explaining something your not even sure about
Musaylamah came after prophet died. *rolls eyes*
@narcole1919721,
Don't make foolish conclusions. I am neither claiming divinity for Jesus nor asserting he wasn't a divine being. I am simply clarifying the meaning of God the Son asserting that one who is aware of the Christian Theology of Trinity doesn't make such foolish conclusions as @Jared made above.
In other words I am clarifying the concept not its correctness. Its correctness is beyond the scope of this discussion and I am not qualified to comment on that.
@ I-HATE-ISALM,
May be he hasn't. Musaylimah or al-Aswad for example.
Jesus never died. its his apprentice who betrayed him who got killed cos god changed his appearance like jesus for punishment. god raised jesus to heaven to save him. and will return him before doomsday to unite us all into one religion. he and imam mahdi will fight dajjal.
Anyway, jesus appearance is different than the statues. any beardy man could resemble that statue. Just admit that you people failed to describe his appearance. theres even no light of prophet from it.
Nah. 🙂
Who? which miracles? 🙁
*rolls eyes* how many ancient people before jesus who said the same for other sons? jesus is human. creature. god is the creator. And the creation of jesus just like the creation of adam. subhanallah.
Chuck,
Perfect.
narcole1919721,
Of course muhammadans are forever dumb. Why would any person believe in the idiocy that Muhammad talked about? Only the dumb do so even after the events at Khayyabar had shown that the man was not a prophet but a mere conman.Muhammadans invent 'miracles' which they credit to Muhammad although the man himself said that he was incapable of performing any miracle. In support of this he falsely claimed that if he had performed a miracle the people would have killed him as was done to those prophets who brought about miracles. He cited non existent and nameless Jewish prophets who he claimed were killed for invoking divine fire to prove their prophethood.
Guest,
You never heard that even during Muhammad's time there were some who also claimed to be prophets?
narcole1919721,
That is certainly not the end for your quran calls JESUS "THE WORD AND SPIRIT OF GOD". You believe that man has spirit. Is the spirit of man separate from man? No.Both body and spirit are integral parts of the same being called 'man'.The Word of GOD lasts forever and it is immutable just as GOD cannot change. If JESUS was a mere mortal,why does the quran not call Muhammad the "WORD AND SPIRIT OF GOD"? Apart from JESUS who else does the quran so describe?
What are you doing here grrrr
@chuck: " 7th century Arabia was infested with self-asserted prophets." Never heard this before. Who were they?
This jin article is fishy too. ancient hoax. almost a decade. i remember i ever went to a site about 'miracles'. but finally that site closed, cos muslims found out those were hoaxes made by non moslems. Their modus, to spread miracle hoaxes, and made muslims amazed, then they revealed the truth of the hoaxes, and told people that those hoaxes made by lying muslims to fool dumb ones. ancient. not gonna work 😉
Jesus is only a human, and a prophet. The end.
@Jared,
//Jesus was not the son of God//
Neither Muhammad nor you understood the meaning of the Trinity. Jesus as God the Son isn't a biological phenomenon. It takes a little while to grasp the Christian theology of the Trinity.
//God had given each religion a prophet eg Jesus and Muhammed//
It is far more appealing and logical to assume that an omnipotent, ever benevolent God with intent of doing good and with knowledge of human fallibility wouldn't employ human agency of prophethood. An all powerful entity can do this deliverance by itself by means that it deems fit.
//prophet just like Muhammed//
Can you prove that Muhammad was a prophet? 7th century Arabia was infested with self-asserted prophets. One of them managed to outshine and outdo all others, his name was Muhammad.
The truth is that there is only 1 god and it will always be 1 God, Jesus was not the son of God he was a prophet just like Muhammed, God had given each religion a prophet eg Jesus and Muhammed, I don't know why Christians still believe that Jesus was the son of God.
Chuck,
Well done. These goons think that everybody is an ignoramus who can be deceived at will.
@vlad tepish,
Again Tafsir Ibn Kathir comes to the rescue. Discussing 9:12-13-14
Kathir explains "attacks you first" as : "
(while they did attack you first), refers to the battle of Badr when the idolators marched to protect their caravan. When they knew that their caravan escaped safely, they still went ahead with their intent to fight Muslims out of arrogance, as we mentioned before. "
So it is the Muslims who attacked their caravan and they marched to protect it and after securing its safety they pursued the Muslims. Even before the battle in Jan 624 AD Muhammad attacked the Meccan's caravan near Nakhla, and this was a truce month (Rajab) when fighting is prohibited!!
In the preceding verse we have "and attack your religion." a key phrase in your argument. Ibn Kathir explains it thus: " (and attack your religion…) with disapproval and criticism, it is because of this that one who curses the Messenger, peace be upon him, or attacks the religion of Islam by way of criticism and disapproval, they are to be fought. This is why Allah said afterwards, (then fight (you) against the leaders of disbelief — for surely, their oaths are nothing to them — so that they may stop.) so that they may refrain from the disbelief, rebellion and the transgression they indulge in. "
It is clear what is meant here is not a direct attack on the Muslims but mere criticism and disapproval of Islam. Ibn Kathis establishes the general nature of these verses thus; "However, this Ayah is general, even though the specific reason behind revealing it was the idolators of Quraysh. So this Ayah generally applies to them and others as well, Allah knows best. "
@vlad tepish
First there are no jinns. Second pick up tafsir Ibn Kathis and read what he opines about these verses. I quote: " So the devils before the time of Muhammad had taken sitting stations for themselves in the heaven of this world and they would listen to the matters that occurred in the heaven. But when Allah sent Muhammad as a Prophet and Messenger, they were suddenly pelted one night (with the flaming, shooting stars). So the people of Ta'if were frightened because of this and they began to say, `The dwellers of the sky have been destroyed.' This was because they saw the severe fires in the sky and the shooting flames. They began freeing their servants and abandoning their luxuries."
Tepish,
Many people read the quran and it does not make sense for somebody like me to commit the entire book to memory since I do not have the remotest intention to become a 'hafiz' or an expert quran reciter Allah has enjoined in the quran that the sunna of Muhammad must be followed by every muhammadan. But nothing is said in the quran about how Muhammad lived his life which is the compulsory example. Depending on the quran alone leaves a yawning gap. How is it to be filled? The answer is in the hadiths and the sira. It seems you are one of the "quran only" followers who believe that the hadiths have no historical value. No. It has and you are wrong.
The truth about the quran is that most of the stories are concoctions and those which are not have been plagiarized from other works and twisted to suit the narrators whims and caprices. I will not give a second thought to the story on which your post is based.
Tepish,
According to Ibn Isahq, it was Muhammad and his gang who started the problem in Mecca. It got to a point that the Quraish went and reported him to his powerful uncle but it was to no avail. If any group fought in self defense, it was the people Muhammad attacked. He was always the aggressor. The same is being repeated today.
Dear rahul,regarding verse 9:14,please read verse 9:13 first which goes like "wont you fight people who violated their oath,plotted to kill the messenger and attacked you first? do you fear them? its only god u should fear…
Then comes verse 9:14 which calls for the fight against the group mentioned above.
Its very easy to substitute the characters in these verses with all non muslims or people from other faiths.in real world we all fight against those who attacks us first
Dear rahul.it was good to see u quoting quranic verses.i feel u havent read it in its entirety.an example is verse 9:5 regarding the slaying the pagans.first of all it is about the war that was waged between quraish pagans and the believers.the pagans were entering into treaties and consistently not fulfilling and back stabbing.so god advices to dissolve all treaties and give them a taste of their own medicine.but immediately after this verse (9:5) the next advise is "if the pagans repent,establish regular prayers and pay charity then open a way for them for god is most merciful".so its clear that the bad guys here are not the hindus or christians or any other faith but those arab pagans who were selfish low lifes .
The job of accumulating hate towards islam is easy since nobody reads holy quran and are happy with the heresay called hadith and the prophets practices which has no validations.the verses quoted on top is not any fancy story concoted by Muhammed.the 72nd chapter called The jinn is a warning to those people who tried to collabrate with evil spirits to shelter themselves from the actualities of life (72:6).
Regarding the funny shooting star verse, the verses 72:8 and 72:9 simply says the jinns who after listening to the holy book learned that among them were those who resorted to stealth and prying but their dark plots were defeated the guardians of the right whose repulse of the attack of evil is symbolised by the shafts of meteoric lights of heaven.here heaven simply stands for goodness.if u want to spread hatred concot stories if not please understand that god has repeatedly said that all revelations the torah,the bible the quran are one and same
I am a Muslim… And proud of that. There is nothing good in spreading bad things about Islam. I agree in all religion and group you all find some people who are blind and trying to justify there believe anyhow. But it is toally prohebitted in Islam. Prophet Mohammad (Peace be upon him) said "For one person it is enough to be a lair that he hear something and spread it without investigating". Any one want to talk about Islam and The beliefs of Islam. You are most welcome. Just mail me and start conversation: [email protected]
fuad, apart from your incoherence which is very apparent, what scientific proof and discoveries can be found in the quran and where exactly are they to be found? The quran is as confusing as your post.
وجادلهم بالتي هي احسن
I do not want to prove to you that the Koran is false or true by this evidence does not Tguetnon by "Ghost and what you hear in the sky and its relationship with Astral" I want to read the Koran and see what discovered your scientists and match with the Quran, which was revealed to the Muslims 1400 years ago mean discoveries material "nature that ye sanctify "such as Koranic verses which caused several wife after divorce The what yoto discuss himself and does not depend on others and rumors Thanksur scientists found in this issue, "no limit" on those who want to know the truth
This is vintage Dr Ali Sina. Thanks a lot.
@Rida,
I think you, like all Muslims, misunderstand Christianity. The reason for this is that Muhammad misunderstood it and Muslims repeat his mistakes.
Muhammad thought Christians worship God, Mary and Jesus and they think all these three are one. That is not true. Christians believe in the trinity. First of all the three persons of the trinity are God, Holy Spirit and Jesus. Mary is not part of it and hence Muhammad was wrong. Secondly, trinity does not mean one is three and three is one. It represents the three aspects of one reality. Muslims say God has 99 names. Each name does not represent a different deity.
To understand the concept of trinity compare God to the sun, the rays of the sun to the holy spirit and a mirror in which the sun is reflected as Jesus. You can point at the sun reflected in the mirror and say this is sun. This does not mean you actually think the glass in which the sun is reflecting is the sun. Or another example. If you see someone on TV, you can say this this person is so and so. But the truth is that the real person is not inside the screen of your television.
This is really a simple concept. Muhammad was a very ignorant man. He was cunning but very stupid in grasping metaphysical things and understanding allegories. Muhammad's criticism of Christianity is straw man fallacy. That is to be expected of an illiterate and ignorant man of the 7th century Arabia. What is not forgivable is that 1.5 billion Muslims rehash the same nonsense and refuse to understand the true meaning of trinity.
As for your question about why God allowed Jesus to die, I would ask you why God allowed Muhammad to die with so much pain and physical ailment. He was in such a pain that Aisha said she never saw anyone suffering more than the prophet.
Slave Mentality/ Rida,
allah only protected Muhammad against the curses of the Quraish. When it came to giving physical protection, allah was most ineffective. After the brigandage at Badr, Muhammad took to wearing double mail or coat of amour. He then surrounded himself with a team of body guards. Muhammad no longer trusted the protection of allah who only served from then on as his/its messengers chief security officer. His/its role in Muhammad's protection became giving instruction on how he was to be protected while praying, who was to be on duty at what point in time and how the team was to be grouped. All these came down as 'revelation'. At Uhud, Muhamamd had a ring of 9 bodyguards composed of the Medinans or 'ansars' or helpers, if you will. When he saw that the battle was against him, he bribed them with the bogus promise of paradise for anyone who would die protecting him. All the 9 perished while the coward ran away after feigning dead. He took a direct hit in the face with the result that he lost some front teeth. When he got home and was treated by Fatima, both of them were busing cursing whoever did that to him. Why was Muhammad afraid to go to paradise if he actually believed in a place like that? Uhud was the perfect opportunity for him to have made the trip. But he was most reluctant to seize it to go and enjoy his sensuality there.
It was allah's failure to protect Muhammad that led to his signing the humiliating treaty of Hubaidayya. This demoralized his followers, particularly Abu Bakr and Umar who had thought that being "allah's apostle", allah "will not degrade him". Allah degraded him on that occasion and at another. That was at Khyabba, when allah allowed his/its messenger to eat poisoned food and died totally degraded as a result of that. For three years he suffered excruciating pain and prayed to allah to serve him from the "torment of the agony of death". Allah refused; even with 'Gabriel' joining in the prayer. Gabriel is said to be the "holy spirit'. This was the first time that a deity refused to listen to itself. Muhammad's death proved that he was a false prophet and allah was only a figment of his imagination.
There is neither bravery nor divine protection in brigandage, stealing from others, killing defenseless people to take their wives and property. It is no virtue to annihilate whole populations and steal their properties. The latest edition of Muhammad was Hitler. That is why muslims adore him. Thank God that JESUS did not embark on the path of evil otherwise I would not have been a Christian. God does not empower people to cause evil as Muhammad did. He said he had a jinn. I truly believe this because only the devil was capable of propelling him in the direction that he went.
Rida, you may be knowing some of the things I am writing now for the first time because your imams and the likes of Slave Mentality want you to be in the dark. But everything I am writing now is true and there are islamic sources to confirm. If you are in any doubt, ask for these sources. There are many people on this blog who wish you well and want you to be liberated from the scourge of evil. All you need to do is ask for help.
God bless Dr Ali Sina for setting up this website and others who have been contributing to enlighten those seeking assistance.
Rida, Jesus died because He was ordained to die as the only unblemished sacrifice which was acceptable to GOD. All the sacrificial animals cannot atone for the sins of man. Jesus' death shows how limitless God's love for man is. We were his ordinary creation but the death of Jesus elevated us to the status of God's children. The quran says you should believe in the prophets and the Prophet Isaiah called Jesus, EMMANUEL, which means GOD WITH US. The quran further calls Jesus the WORD AND SPIRIT OF GOD. St. John wrote that the WORD became flesh and lived with us. Jesus' death was the ultimate show of love by GOD Himself.
You winder why Jesus did not ask people to worship HIM if HE were GOD. There was no need for HIM to have done that because from His earthly birth, HE was the object of worship. It is a universally accepted fact that only GOD knows all about man. Even the devil does not know the thoughts of man. St John tells us that JESUS knew the thoughts and all about man. Therefore, He did not want anyone to tell Him about the other person. You will agree that HIS miracles were quite extraordinary. The Psalmist says that GOD alone can walk on water. This JESUS did to prove HIS divinity. When HIS work on earth was done, HE ascended to heaven. Even the quran admits this though in a perverted way.
There is no mention of any ' prophet Muhammad' in the Holy BIBLE. If you have any prove which is contrary to the fact stated by me, please show it.
M R Raja, just as Muhammad did. His own lived with him till death but was of no use except to lead him down the path of evil. The jinn could not even protect him at Uhud where a rock hit him in the face and knocked out some of his teeth. The jinn could not prevent his being poisoned at Khayyabar. I hope during the time your jinn was with you it did not lead you to tread the path paved by Muhammad.
@rida
Allah protected the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) all the time because he was perfect prophet. No one of among these prophets like Moses, Abrahim, Jesus fought wars like prophet Mohammad who fought thousand of wars during his life time. Jesus never gave any pain to anybody believer or non-believer even than Allah not protected him that is the proof he was not perfect messenger while Allah protected the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) who killed the lacs of non-believer in him but Allah saved him from non-believers all the time.
Signel, you are not only a miserable wretch but a liar of the worst order. You are a muhammadan trying to play taqiyya on the uninformed by making it seem as if muhammadanism is an acceptable cult. Try harder because for now you have failed.
i am muslim,i respect what you say .but jesus did not say that im a god ,worship me ,he didn't say that i sacrify for you these is not exist in the bible.if he was a god whay he die , if allah protect all the prophets abraham from fire ,moses from pharaone.way he did't protect jesus his son as like you believe.and whay the prophet mohammed is in the bible? .www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhazm0UdlTc
you are gonna die alone ?so it's your heart and your faith ?
There is no such beings as jinns. But they are spirits hanging around esp. in haunted houses. These spirits are of human or animal origins which had met their death in violent ways. They could not go to the spiritual world, because they bear grudges, or attachment to this world. They are stuck in and around the places where they had met their death. Get more info from the paranormal investigators, and do not got stuck in obsolete ideology.
So you had met a ghost !
I Have experiences of jinn
more then 1 month… 🙂
not bad
Ali sina said:
These Jinns were made of fire and would stand on top of each other’s shoulders all the way to heaven to eavesdrop to what was being discussed.
Responce:
Ali Sina can you provide the reference either from authentic Hadith or from the glorious Quran about Jin standing on each other’s shoulders?
TO THE EVIL TAQIYYA MOHAMMEDAN AminRAT .
You are NOT wanted here…so you don't have to refute anything . 🙂
We know your silly and quasi-intellectual "answers and comments".Nobody is interested. They mean NOTHING !!
The best YOU can do is to blow yourself up amongst some "innocent" muslim brothers and sisters , like a good "peaceful" muslim should !
Then everybody will be happy: You with your 72 whores, Allah=Mohammed=Satan and WE , the non-muslims ! Bye.
Omg.. America is dying so badly.. The people are so retarded nowadays.. They get mad at Muslims yet they no nothing about them at all, they blame them for 9/11 for hitting the twin towers and I bet ya that most Americans have no idea what t hose twin towers were. Yet they try to make fun of Muslims (which is a religion) for really no reason.
And another thing, Muhammad was not born in the modern world or America so there's nothing wrong with him at all.
It's funny how most americans just jump right in when they see one word, its like they cant read at all, just get so butthurt.
The Americans are the evil ones. When those people first came to the Americas, they did nothing but evil, they raped the Natives and turned them into their slaves and killed out so many and did so much sick and nasty things to the poor natives, this was their land. The Freemasons took over, a full load of racist sick bastards who want to make a one world government and all that crap. They think they own this world.. Foolish brainwashed prid within the hearts of the Americans of today… Shame on you all
Aren't we all ignorant ?
Braaaaiiiinnnnwwaaaaasssshhhheeeddd. You must be a jew. Or an ignorant atheist.
Apt, especially given . . . how inappropriate comments sections are for any lengthy discussion. What is there to refute. . .?
This is all this brilliant Muslim could say in refuting the above article.
Zakir Naik is a show man . . . he is actually a medical man – hence the Dr.
He does not have the qualifications necessary to be considered an "Islamic" Scholar.
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However – this doesn't mean whether he is a skilled debater or not. There is little more to the Art – then simply possessing comprehensive knowledge of a subject.
But his talents lie in TV debates . . . He wont come down from that perch.
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Sina has made his excuses – that he will not debate face-2-face.
Bunch of like minded sick people getting togather on this site and complimenting each other and feeling happy.Islam is the truth and truth is hard to swallow for bunch of arrogant sick minded people .:D
This author is clearly unaware of the Qur'an teachings and is being ignorantly blasphemous. just because you collected some fake pranks by some weak Muslim with low faith, you can't quickly judge the entire holy book. You need to get your facts right and your level of logic is inherently childish. Do more transparent research about the unseen truth or just be ignorant like how you have been if you will. When the time comes, oh yeah it will, we'll all know who is the the deceiver and who is deceived. And I dare you to debate Dr. Zakir Naik in regards to your finds on Islam and the Prophet. If you can't then please stop all these lameness at once ad save your self-respect.
jinns are not demon like creatures with wings and tails, and who all happen to be evil hate humans, hate God…etc.. jinns are more like humans but highly more advanced than us in both tehnology and inteligence, and they too have good jins bad jinns, they maybe too have presidents, corrupted goverments, cars, mcdonalds :D. If we cant see them, it doesnt mean they are not there, if you are at least using 1% of ur brain to think about this theory, use the most powerful tool ever released to research various stuff (google). You will see that its possible. so jinns exist, demons exists, God exists, humans pretty much still exists, or not. its is up to YOU and only YOU to choose wether to believe in this stuff, to be religious, and in which religion YOU should commit yourselves. am only commenting here cause this article is misleading, and comments are confusing..
How dare you people criticize a regligion of God and his prophet. You may need to get some education and learn about religion befor you right. A jew trying to put Islam down, why dont you worry about your own people before wasting time on others idiot.
This was a very well-written and thought-provoking article. Sometimes a provocative contrarian view only serves to bolster the subject matter that is being questioned–as is the case here. Just as with the Holy Bible, the Noble Qur'an wasn't entirely written in a literal context. Instead, it teaches through analogies and the like. Just because something is described through creative analogy does not make it false. With all of that said, the Jinn do exist. While the Jinn prefer to remain hidden, the modern world is uncovering them. There are movies coming out about them (Jinn the Movie, Djinn) and a book (The Jinn, see http://www.TheJinn.com) has recently been written about three American Peace Corps volunteers who travel to Morocco and meet their fates after encountering the horrors of the Jinn. That book describes the meteor showers mentioned in this article as well as the Second Heaven. The Western World will soon come to know the Jinn and their evil manifestations.
Hahah.. :p
All your FACTS is STOLE from FFI, LOL :p
Allah = Who CREATED you !
Mahdi = ANTI-FITNA'TERS like you ! :p
Messiah = Prophets are full of wonders !
note: Islam will continue to grow, even if you try to tear down !!
to much worst text!! so?? the Question is =
Are the suspect is a MUSLIM?, and WHO is behind of this CRIME?
11/9 and 11/26.
SHOW the evidence to me? true evidence.
the True? come to REAL life..
and Don't only/just read the news paper..? or watching streaming fake video about Terrorist ? LOL :p haha..
meet some MUSLIM and you will be KNOW about ISLAM..
Haha.. is cuz you read the news peper everyday in your country right? :p LOL
in EVERYDAY you ALWAYS READ,, (ISLAM today? but published by non ISLAM?) :p
and sometimes preach:
"Muslim kill the human or kill something bullsyt, false, whatever" :p LOL
and you just trust?? just STUPID :p LOL and news will be kill you self :p
@ JUSTE haha.. :-p
I understand your purpose of all your comments ..
that I keep in my stance (ISLAM)
and I (WE) will NOT ENTER your religion (NEVER) :-p
to me my religion, to you, your religion
(STOP to interfere in OUR RELIGION)
(GO to your TEMPLE, to REDEEM of all your SINS) :-p LOL dont make more sins bro..!!
you pathetic dog why don't you eat your bread
you dont respect i swear i can feel that god will punish you for what you saying ina lilaah raji3oun ya ouyha al kafer la tensa an allah chadid al 3edab.meskh
Sir you can't possibly be serious! There are plenty of people who claim Christianity as their faith and do violent things (rape, murder, aggravated assault, ect.) so to place such a stereotype to one religion is not only sad but you are also ignorant. You are clearly confusing cultural traditions, personal beliefs, and ect. with a religion. Instead of listening to others why don't you time time out to actually understand the Quran and its teaching, otherwise you are no better than the people that produce violence in Islam. Ignorance breeds ignorance.
You are using an outdated and inaccurate definition of mental illness. Read Dr. Sina's book for an analysis of the specific disorders and you will understand Muhammad and Muslims very well:
http://alisina.org/understanding-muhammad/
Your deen is unacceptable and uncivilized. Muhammad was:
a narcissist a misogynist a rapist
a pedophile a lecher a torturer
a mass murderer a cult leader an assassin
a terrorist a madman a looter
http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-cha…
Allah created the earth first and then sent down iron to the earth! What a nonsense!
Typical Taqiyya from a Muslim taught and practiced by Muhammad.
“And We also "SENT DOWN" iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind…” (Quran 57:25).
All mankind jst read the above verse of QURAN and read the history of IRON. then u will understand the truthness of QURAN. PLZZZ
your deen with you and my deen with me.
I am totally disagree that Muhammad was a mentally sick man. He was a very clever guy and business mined he saw a big business opportunity in making a religion which came with mix of existing religion. By this he got money power woman. A mental sick man can never make a great plan. But the Muslim (God give brain upon them) are mostly with out brain they can not realized that there forth fathers where torchered and forcefully converted to Islam. but they believe in Mohammad business which he gave name Islam
Muslims have no answers to intellectual issues. They are only here to say they are right and we are wrong.
Well- I have not seen a single Muslim post any answers to these questions- neither on facebook groups where I posted this, nor on this website's comments. Please Muslims try to give answers.
Brother Naaz, I was earlier a staunch Hindu and a believer in God, but now though I am a Hindu I have seen many of the shortcomings of Hindu religion. Ali Sina opened my eyes, when I could see mistakes and shortcomings in Islam and Christianity, I also began to see in Hinduism and I am fully convinced now that Hinduism is not from God. All Hindu books are written by humans I feel, and yet I am still a Hindu. Because Hinduism is not based on blind faith, but on rational thinking which gives Hindus full freedom to accept or reject any or all matter of their religion. Still, please see this article just once http://www.islaminindia.org/who-will-go-to-hell and then please see this link http://www.islaminindia.org/13-evidence-that-isla… and if you have answers, please post them on these websites in the comments section. Thank you.
http://www.islaminindia.org/who-will-go-to-hell See this brother Rashid…I know you admire Muhammad like a CHILD ADMIRES HIS FATHER but even a child's father can be a rapist, murderer and a thief.
Fun? 300 million deaths due to Islamic jihad, imperialism and oppression is nothing to make fun about. Who cares what other religions believe as long as they are peaceful.
You had better learn to deal with these traits of Muhammad:
a narcissist a misogynist a rapist
a pedophile a lecher a torturer
a mass murderer a cult leader an assassin
a terrorist a madman a looter
Click on each word for a description of the trait. You have to ask Dr. Sina for his book to read about "madman".
http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-cha…
hahaha you pick fun of ISLAM, you are the fool here! You went out of your way to put this together, why don't you go out of your way and read the NEW testament and TELL us all how you stupid Christians can believe that JESUS is the SON of GOD and why the hell he put him on earth to be sacrificed by ignorant twats like yourself?????? who believes this kind of balderdash??? fool, mock ISLAM all you want many have come and gone BUT ISLAM and its name lives on, waste your life going against it, nothing you can change! FREAKS!
lol,you act like kids Sina.
Islam110.tk
Muslim should try to answer those. xD
Had hindus followed Vedas, there would never have been a caste system, and hindus could have destroyed all invaders to ashes the second they invaded india.
So, as you can see, it was really the fault of hindus that lead to their massacres
@Rahul
sure, that is your opinion. If you feel Vedas are not from God, then its fine. You are being a TRUE Vedic follower by being rational and logical, and someone who believes Vedas are not from God is MORE VEDIC than someone who blindly believes Vedas to be divine.
All those hindus that got slaughtered, its the fault of hindus themselves and NOT GOD. The reason is simple, THE STUPID CASTE SYSTEM. Caste system is no where mentioned in the Vedas, on contrary, Vedas calls for equality in all beings. Now, since hindus were stupid back then and followed the caste system, majority of our warriors were weaklings because they were born in the so called Kshatriya class. And many physically strong people, that could have destroyed our enemies were not allowed to participate in the wars just because THEY WERE NOT BORN INTO THE KSHATRIYA CLASS. For example, if you were a brahmin, vaishya, or shudra, no matter how strong were you, since you are NOT born in a Kshatriya family, you had to right to participate in the wars.
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AND THIS LINK IS A MUST READ. http://www.islaminindia.org/uncategorized/would-a…
This is a must read for all, Ali Sina as well maybe. (Proof number 9 I am saying).
Read this excellent site and know the truth.
5- http://www.islaminindia.org/uncategorized/why-did…
6- http://www.islaminindia.org/uncategorized/why-doe…
7- http://www.islaminindia.org/uncategorized/why-doe…
8- http://www.islaminindia.org/uncategorized/why-has…
1 – http://www.islaminindia.org/uncategorized/would-a…
2- http://www.islaminindia.org/uncategorized/was-all…
3- http://www.islaminindia.org/uncategorized/why-wil…
4 -http://www.islaminindia.org/uncategorized/why-didnt-angel-gabriel-reveal-the-quran-to-all-meccans-show-himself-to-all-arabian-people-254
This is must read for all http://www.islaminindia.org/13-evidence-that-isla…
@Hindu2011 I respect your opinion, I am also a proud Hindu. You are entitled to your view tht Vedas are written by God and that my knowledge about Hinduism is childish and stupid (which I dont agree). Whether Vedas are written by God or man is a different matter. If they are from God, then it should be proven, so that seeing the proof, the whole humanity will follow the Vedic path. Anyway, I certainly dont believe that God, if he exists, interferes in human life, because Islam killed crores and crores of Hindus in medieval as well as modern times, including hundreds of thousands in our own lifetime. a true God would not have allowed this, even if the Hindus did deviate from the Vedic path, such a punishment is not deserved by them. Also, atrue God would have awakened Islam and Christianity's followers about the falsehood of their religion and stopped misguided followers of Islam and Christianity from killing crores of people. Of course I know that Vedas teach love and are great books. I have utmost respect for all Hindu books which are all teaching righteousness and "Do not do to others what you do not wish to be done yourself". But the fact remains that Hindus practiced sati (not a part of religion, but still wrongly practiced by Hindus), female infanticide continues by Hindus till date, systems like dowry, etc which were not good and are now objectionable. And I am proud of Hindu religion which did not teach all this, and of Hindus who changed all this and followed laws abolishing all these things. The free-thinking which will take the world forward is allowed only in Hinduism which does not force its followers to follow anyone or anything.
@Rahul
Rahul, your knowledge about hinduism is so childish and stupid. I agree Puranas are not the word of God, but WHAT PROOF DO YOU HAVE THAT VEDAS R WRITTEN BY HUMANS? India is suffering today and has suffered in the past because hindus deviated from the path of Vedas and followed other scriptures. Vedas teach everyone to love each other, and let everyone worship or not worship whoever they want. Now, tell me, what can be more peaceful than this???
As long as a person is logical and ethical in life, he/she is a true Vedas follower.
Also, I heard someone say here- "God have mercy on you. You are questioning God's words. God will throw you in Hell for it." Actually, it is just the opposite. You are calling a man's words as "words of God". God will be extremely angry with you for calling an ordinary man's words as His words and punish you for believing that He wrote such a violent book. http://www.islaminindia.org/who-will-go-to-hell
Dear Muslim, I am a Hindu. I will tell you, Hinduism is not from God. There are many mistakes in Hindu books as well, such as Puranas which too contain a few contradictions (like Number of Avthars of Vishnu, 5 or 10 or 12?) Hindu books are all written by humans, not one of them is written by God., including Vedas. There are many things in Hinduism which are not acceptable by today's standards. But as Hindus, WE HAVE REJECTED all such things, reformed our religion, and changed as per the times. We passed laws to ban child marrriage, gave minimum age for marriage as 18 for girls and 21 for boys. What we will is that Islam is not true, not from God just as Hinduism is also not from God. But the reason why we want Muslims to understand that Islam is false, is because it is also dangerous. There are also passages in the Quran which are very violent and intolerant (like 9:5, 9:14, 9:17, 9:28, 9:29, 9:39, 9:110, 9:123, 8:12, 8:65, 8:39, 2:193, 5:33, 22:19-22, 47:4, 3:151, 4:56, 4:78 etc) . Many Muslims genuinely believe that killing idolators is a sure way to Heaven. You saw what misguided Muslims did on 9/11, 26/11 in Mumbai. Also, if God does send people to Hell, then Muslims will go to Hell. To see why, please read this. We want to set Muslims free from the grip of Islam. http://www.islaminindia.org/who-will-go-to-hell
Why do you feel that something should be exempt from criticism? That's how the world gets rid of things that are wrong. How can you hope to improve yourself if you don't take a good look at things that you associate yourself and identify yourself with? Would you wear a Nike shirt if you investigated and found out that Nike was making bad shoes? Would you still wear Nike shoes and risk damaging your feet just because all your friends think Nike is the only cool shoe?
YOU KNOW WHAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO CALL YOU YOURSELF . DUMD?,IDIOTIC OR JUST PLAIN OLD RETARTED.
YOU ARE JUST SO FULL OF F IT ARE'T YOU?AREN'T YOU
IT'S OK JOHN I REALLY DON'T WANNA DO THAT BUT IT JUST ANNOYS ME WHEN PEOPLE CONDEMN OTHER PEOPLE'S RELIGION I FEEL LIKE WHEN PEOPLE DO THAT THEY NEED TO LOOK AT THEIR OWN RELIGION FIRST '' HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF SOMEONE JUST SAYS A BUNCH OF CRAP ABOUT WHAT YOU BELIEVE IIN '.I MEAN THIS IS WHAT THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE BELIEVE IN ,RESPECT IT AND JUST LIVE WITH IT EVEN IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT .THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS TYPICALLY THAT WE AMERICANS DON'T AGREE WITH WHY DO WE HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY TARGET THIS GROUP. PERSONALLY THATS WHAT I JUST THINK WE SHOULD REALIZE .
ATJ, dont get emotional. It is not your fault that the Quran has all these ugly facts. It is Mohammed's fault. A man who died thousands of years ago. He would not die for your if he you had lived in his days. He has nothing to do with God and nothing to do with you. Come back to humanilty.
Hi JJ,
It's not like that. It's not what anybody says about Islam. It's about what Islam says about itself. This is just showing the public what the Quran and Sunna say. I bet you don't know about the things they say yourself. You have to read the articles to see where the evidence is. You can't deny the Quran and Sunna. So take a look at what it says. If you want to issue a challenge to the author, here is the link with instructions:
http://alisina.org/understanding-muhammad/
i don't care who you are rasheed and naz but you have no right what soever to critisize a religion to that extent just because you don't believe in it doesn't mean you could just condemn it imagine if a person critisize your religion whatever it is which your probably don't have one from the way your words flow but because off the factb that you are socially and pyschologically blind to see things different than what you have heard on the media doesn't mean this religion is wrong .If you care enough to study the religion carefully without any prejudiced and biased views i can bet you that you will see that evrything you know about it is wrong. this religion is THE'' best religion in the whole world i don't care what anybody says.you guys are just naturally cowards to say such things .we are all humans we all see things different but because of the fact that we don't agree with it doesnt mean we can just condemn it any how .
The Quran is clear to be understood. It requires no interpretation. If you would read it yourself, you would not be a Muslim anymore.
You fools! All you do is misinterpret the Holy Quran due to your ignorance and evil. There is no God but Allah and Muhammad Salallahu alaihi Wasallam is Allahs Messenger. Islam is going to rule every inch of earth, cant you feel it in the air already you devils!. BY ALLAH!, you all are nothing but liars, there is not a single error in ISLAM, that is the reason it is the ONLY TRUE RELIGION SENT FROM NONE OTHER THAN THE ONLY CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE, ALLAH! ALLAHU AKBAR!
I can send some of mine to go with yours too.
I can see ghosts flying around me all the time. I can ask some of them to go and taunt you if you want the proof.
By the way I am NOT a muslim. I am a kafir.
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i know the amazing world of jinnat that are living among us and i can see them
MAY ALLAH GRANT U THE EXACT SAME RESPECT AND CARE AS U HAVE PLACED BEFORE HIM, regarding HIM; THE GREAT GOD !
We are letting the light around. You experience our light as shit. amazingly, your light is also shits to all self reliant intelligent minds. what an irony!!
So now you believe in counterfeit Qurans? It's bad enough you believe in the real one.
If you have anything good to say about the Quran, either you haven't read it, or you agree with its evil teachings.
What is truth? How do you know it?
Thank you for having respect in the truth. Not the fake garbage being made up in sick minds.
Hmm… Tell me did you read a real one? Or one in a Anti-Islam store or something absurd like that.
That's "slave of Allah", Grace!
Yes. The Quran and Ahadith all condemn Muhammad and Islam and verify everything I said is true.
It's always interesting that Muslims come here with their profane language and try to tell us they are holy and represent God.
If you call it holy and good, and respect it, it shows you do not know it. Who can respect the violence that Islam produces? You are a Christian in Iran and don't have any thoughts about the persecutions of Christians there? I think it is more likely that you are a liar and a Muslim.
I am Christian and I respect the Holy faith of Islam, it is a good religion and in time will be much more respected in other nations.
– Signel (from Iran)
ali sina congrates i really like u i have much information that i need about islam
shut up..idiot…if u have no knowledge of The holy Quran..so don't critize it…get ur facts right..thoroughly right and then shit around!!!!
Mr. Anand,
Interested? Let’s start a da’wah majlis and show people how beautiful Islam is.
These proposals are irresistable to any psycho/idiot.
Juste,
You have exactly said how Muhammad and his alter ego 'Allah' expect good Muslims to lead their life.
Rasheed and Naz,
You are right!
I want to be a muslim!
I want to worship the God of Hate.
I want to pray in language that is not my own.
I want to read the word of god in a scripture written with characters that is alien to me.
I want to perceive a mass murderer as a prophet.
I want to raid infidel’s lands.
I want too loot infidel’s belongings.
I want to decapitate the men that rejected Islam and refuse submission tax.
I want to rape, OH YES! Rape infidel women and have them bear my children and raise them as muslims.
I want to take fatherless infidel children and use them as slaves.
I want to have four wives at a time.
I want to beat ’em up just because they give me a defiant look.
I want to marry today, have lustful sex all day and divorce the next day.
I want to divorce by a simple email.
I want to believe that my Allah-less ancestors are all going to hell.
I want to have sex with nine year old children.
I want to accuse my nemesis by accusing him of blasphemy and have him beheaded.
I want to drink camel piss just because Muhammad said so.
I want to believe that Jews and Christians were descendants of apes and swines.
I want to have just one intestine as oppossed to infidel’s seven intestines.
I want to lynch dogs because dogs nullify my prayers to Allah.
I want to go to heaven as a martyr and have orgies with my guaranteed 72 ever-virgins, with my penis that is always erect.
OH YES!!! Make me a muslim. Those proposals are too good to waste. Because i am a psycho like Muhammad was.
WHO CARES ABOUT PRESERVING HUMANITY ANYMORE?
Rashed & Naaz,
The name of the father of Muhammad was "Abdullah" which means "Slave of Allah".
I have just one question as of now to both of you, who was Allah, which God before Muhammad was born and till the time Muhammad attained an age of 40 years?
Ignorance is a bliss, they say.
What's astonishing, especially in the other running threads going on with AI, is how people in the depths of ignorance come in here talking like they know everything and are totally unaware of their ignorance. Should make a new saying for Obama – The Audacity of Ignorance.
It's hilarious to see people like this muslim bring nothing but rhetorical preaching and worse of it, they think that they can command and influence a god.
Like you saying it is going to make it true. What an idiot. Sorry, Allah does not exist to bless you idiots.
you are so right brother Rasheed may Allah give them Hidayat
There is no god except Allah and Hazrat Muhammad (SW) is His Rasul.
Allah is kind. May Allah bless the idiots.
All religions are the same; stupid thought.
I read the Koran and Hadith in Arabic and what Ali Sina says is true. Unfortunately, Muslims don't want to face the truth.
There is 50,000 up for grabs for those who can challenge Ali Sina. But I doubt so any scholars are able to. What's the point of arguing via these comments. Go challenge Ali Sina.
CommonSense … just use some sense … use human sense. Allah gave all of us a sense … an intuition. But they are not listening to their sense, instead, they listened to Muhammad.
i wish i had known frm where u get all these information…….why dont u read the quran and hadith urself…..instead of reading info on other sites and books …and i advice tht if u evr read the quran or hadith read each verse/line until it throughly reaches ur brain(there are translations in english also available,i hope u know tht too)…..and please dont misguide others….coz fear him(the almighty)whom u will have to answer on the day of judgement…dont make mistakes and suffer because of them…if u dont really know much abt islam then plz dont spread false news…….if everybody starts thinking the way ur thinking…then no one would follow islam..its just because of faith in allah and believe in our prophet muhammad(peace be upon him),tht we are here respecting and following islam ……i dont have the right to tell anything wrong about ur religion nor do u……
Wrong answer. Analyzing the Bible and the Koran first shows that Muhammad stole his religious stories from the Bible and Zoroastrianism. Muhammad introduced only two new religious ideas.
1) From the Mecca period: Mohammad is Allah's messenger
2) From the Medina period: You are liable to be killed if you don't believe #1 above.
Second, analyzing what the Koran says about Allah and what the Bible says about Satan, it is apparent that Allah is Satan. Analyzing what the Koran says about the Mahdi and what the Bible says about the Anti-Christ, it is apparent that the Mahdi is the Anti-Christ.
Third, in Christianity, Christ is the Redeemer and Son of God. In Islam, Jesus is a Deceptive God and an Incompetent Messiah.
Your rejection of analysis does not make it false. You are obviously an irrational person (aka Muslim) who cannot be reasoned with.
The number of people deceived by Islam does not change its fraudulent and criminal status.
"Seeing your comment" has only served to publicly embarrass you and sully your reputation in the family of humanity.
Trash Muslim propaganda site.
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I think Muhammad Asad give the best explanation regarding the verse 67:5, and its different from what you wrote.
(67:5) And, indeed, We have adorned the skies nearest to the earth with lights, and have made them the object of futile guesses for the evil ones [from among men] (*): and for them have We readied suffering through a blazing flame.
Note:
* For the wider meaning of shayatin – a term which in this context points specifically to "the
satans from among mankind, that is, the astrologers" (Baydawi). As regards the term rajm (pl. rujum), which literally denotes the "throwing [of something] like a stone" – i.e., at random – it is often used metaphorically in the ssense of "speaking conjecturally" or "making [something] the object of guesswork" (Jawhari, Raghib – the latter connecting this metaphor explicitly with the above verse -, Lisan al-'Arab, Qamus, Taj al-'Arus, etc.).
ekhhemm . . .. . . . .. all of the muslim comments are personally incriminating. If you would like to appraise non-Muslims on this site then I suggest you actually refute their propositions in lieu of praising your own self and your religion. You claim their is an ignorance over non-Muslims, well then you better explain these so called 'blasphemous' points, because Muslims have a semblance (no wait-they actually are) ignorance. I see this a lot in the Muslim community, you all just scorn and rebuke everyone else. Some actually try to explain, thus slightly improving.
And Admin, by saying that Christianity and Islam are similar isn't going to assuage the problem for Christianity and the Bible can be seen as very contradictory and mythological in premise and context. Muslims need to explain (or attempt) to justify the Quranic verses by saying they are scientific analogies. The Quran wasn't meant to be scientific but there seems to be a knowledgeable/subliminal meaning to the 7 skies or heavens. Some scholars try to see it as the seven portions of the atmosphere (stratosphere, troposphere, etc) ; you might want to research more of these so called scientific proofs in islamic zealous websites just to debate both sides; though i can see where it would be easy to construe mythology.
As for the Muhammads' flawed and dirty history, again i advise you to try and find different viewpoints on his polygamous marriages or his war stratagems. for I would explain it to you if i had more time . .
Though obviosly you are free to ignorant, bigoted as you want– this goes to the Muslims especially
especially because Muslims were renowned for their scientific advances during Europe's Middle/Dark ages (hello, Avicenna/Avverroes/Aljabrizi), elites and caliphs who used scientific reasoning and interpreted the Quran in many ways (even to secularism-YES!!) and musical innovations. Those who allege the Quran as mythological need to be more objective and researched. As for these Muslims.
As of me, I am an ignoramus, all-Knowing and stupid. . . ..
Christians and Muslims worships the same God Muslims call it Allah Christians call it God.. How come you believe Jesus Peace be upon him as the last prophet? and i don't know if you believe prophets before him or not, but i believe Muhammad Peace Be Upon Him as the ast prophet and i do believe that Jesus PBUH a prophet of GOD so whats the point? and i believe Jesus will return and will confirm Muhammad PBUH as the last prophet of Allah Almighty. There is no point in proving Islam wrong or the book of Allah almighty the Holy qur:an. this is you who is showing yourself to the world that how you feel about Islam. Your so called analysis or few wordpress blog posts can't prove GOD , His Book , His Prophet and his followers wrong. Seriously i feel pity on you.. a wordpress blog cannot prove half population of the world wrong, now please take some time and think what are you upto, believe me you are wasting your time. Now please , finish your studies if you haven't yet or if you have then i being a Muslim i suggest you to start a good business with the name of ALLAH, i pray Allah for your success in business 🙂
and yeah.. let others see my comment approve it or you know at least i would know what are you 🙂
Mr. Servant of Allah:
You said "Islam is the best and truest religion".
Why would you expect me to believe a statement like that? Get yourself over to FFI and read the traits of Muhammad:
a narcissist a misogynist a rapist
a pedophile a lecher a torturer
a mass murderer a cult leader an assassin
a terrorist a madman a looter
You click on any one of those attributes of Muhammad and you will see authentic evidence from the Koran, Hadith, and Sira documenting the truth of these facts.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-cha…
So when you study the life of Muhammad, and how Islam unfolded, you learn that Muhammad was not a noble person, but rather a very pathetic criminal mafia warlord, robber, slaver and lecher with a variety of mental disorders.
Why would you expect anyone to think this is good? Why would you expect anyone to even believe that Islam is a religion? Islam is not a religion. Allah is Muhammad's invention so he could deceive people into believing that a god approves of his criminal and sick behavior. Even Aisha was smart enough to see that.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but when judgement day comes, God will not look kindly on your support for a fake religion that hates and kills. I guarantee you that Muhammad is not any kind of messenger from God. Muhammad is a con-man who deceived your ancestors into supporting his wickedness. God will punish all who follow Muhammad.
Grow up, servant of Allah!
O muslim brother allah has guided whose whom he has guided. and John K Islam is the best and truest religion and you(Kafirun) will believe me in the day of judgement when it is too late. so may allah guide you because it is Allah who is almighty!! and La ilaha ilalah!! muhammad dar rasullah!! PBUH so inshalah Allah protect all the Muslims from the evil of the kafirun and stay strong. John K the Prophet PBUH was the messenger of Allah! May Allah (SWT) punish all who talk about the prophet in such a way!
I see you have a lot of good points throughout the site.
On the Understanding Muhammad page, Dr. Sina does offer a free PDF version, but you have to email to ask. It is not available for direct download.
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I have bought Ali Sina's Understanding Muhammad. But that book is not free and difficult to get, especially outside USA. I live in India. These mistakes are all mentioned, but not properly. There should be a section- MISTAKES OF QURAN- EVIDENCE THAT ISLAM IS FALSE below that should be catagories- 1- Contradictions 2-Grammatical errors 3- Historical blunders 4- Scientific errors
Secondly and most importantly, ANSWERS TO MUSLIM EXPLANATIONS should be given. Muslims give some irrational and far fetched excuses to justify the unjustifiable and explain the unexplainable. Counter arguments to that should be posted, and be easily readable. Read http://www.IslamReligion.com to know how one should promote one's ideology. Also, lines that "TELLING THE TRUTH OF MUHAMMAD TO A MUSLIM IS LIKE TELLING A CHILD THAT HIS FATHER IS A RAPIST MURDERER AND THIEF. A child who adulated his father will not be able to accept it even if all the proofs in the world are given to him." THIS LINE WILL HELP MUSLIMS IN SEEING HIS TRUE FACE. When I read this line, I myself managed to see many of my father's mistakes which I saw unable to see until now having adulated him blindly.
@rajesh Ali Sina has pointed out all those mistakes on FFI. You may also read Understanding Muhammad by Ali Sina. But yes, I think Ali should write a commentary of the Quran and Hadiths so that everything can be explained in one book.
God have pity on you. You have fallen for con-man Muhammad's deceit. He said war is deceit, but the real deceit was on you Muslims to get you to fight and loot for him and his sex cravings. There is nothing holy in the Koran. No real God would say the ugly things that are in the Koran.
may god have mercy on you …. critisizing God allmighty's holy words !
Take some constructive criticism. Write the mistakes in the Quran properly- where are other BIG BLUNDERS- like mistaking Jesus' mother Mary for Moses' sister Mariam in 19:27-28? This writing on this site is amaeurish and more like a blog. Make it proper. List the contradictions in the Quran properly. Write a tile properly- MISTAKES OF QURAN- EVIDENCE THAT ISLAM IS FALSE.