Going From Bad to Worse
Dear Ali Sina
I am from the Maldives, a tiny country sitting in the indian ocean. we were Buddhists earlier, but seems and Arab merchant by the name Abul Barakaathul Barbary defeated a sea demon (which came for virgin girls every month) by reciting the whole Quran, and the king was so impressed and the whole country converted to Islam. but we all know the truth and that the Buddhists were butchered by the Islamic sword and the sea demon is just like a story from Quran.
Our country does not allow any religions other than Islam. The constitution says we have to be Sunni Muslims. Recently the first democratically elected president was ousted by a coup. They accused him of being an infidel who is trying to build churches in the Maldives and now we have the militant Islamic movement, which is saying that even moderate Muslims are kafirs.
Recently they tried to murder a fellow apostate for challenging the only Sunni Muslim policy by saying he was a Sufi Muslim. They tried to slash his throat but they did not succeed. It was the 2nd attempt on his life.
This is what we apostates in the Maldives have to live with, in fear and lies, pretending to be Muslims and there is no way out of this place.
Things are going from bad to worse. Now they are trying to implement the death penalty through Sharia, and they are trying so hard to eradicate democracy that give people power.
I wanted to ask you, what is your advice on this situation? I know the moment anyone finds out I am an apostate i will be prosecuted or murdered on the streets before the law can get a hold of me.
You are an inspiration to me. You gave me the knowledge to know what Islam truly is and I have enormous respect for you.
Dear Sophia
On the surface it seems that things are going from bad to worse everywhere. Quasi secular dictatorships are overthrown in Arab counties only to be replaced by Islamic dictatorships that are thousand times worse.
This is bad in the short run. But that is what Muslims need to go through to see Islam for what it really is and spit it out for good.
Take the example of Iran. The Islamic regime in Iran has made most Iranians apostate. If Iranians are given freedom most of them will renounce Islam publicly, even as many of them have done this already privately.
The vast majority of Muslims still have no idea what Islam is. They still have a romantic view of it. Only a true Islamic government can bring them to reality. They must taste the venom of Islam before they spit it out.
The near future is bleak for all Islamic countries. Human rights will be violated and poverty and suffering will increase. Maldives, like Egypt, relies on tourism for its survival. This industry in these two countries will suffer badly. People will be impoverished and their Islamic governments will increase pressure to keep them compliant. Eventually, they will erupt. There will be a lot of killing as Muslim regimes are ruthless. But once freedom is restored Islamic societies will be purged from Islam.
The Islamic regime in Iran is on its last leg. Islamic regimes in other countries will have a shorter life. I don’t think Islam will survive another twenty years. Its oppression is becoming unbearable. The Islamic terrorism is on the rise, the Islamic dictatorship is on the rise, the human rights abuses are on the rise, and the non-Muslims are awakening to the threat of Islam. Something has to give in. Of course many innocent people will be sacrificed before things get better.
What we can do meanwhile is to spread the truth about this evil cult. We have to do this discretely and anonymously, especially if you live in an Islamic country. Islam becomes stronger by killing us. Islam is like Dracula, the more blood it drinks the stronger it becomes. You have to first take care of your safety and then use mediums such as the Internet to spread the truth and awaken the Muslims. If every apostate helps other Muslims to see the light, it won’t take long before we become the majority. There is magic in exponential growth.
Fasten your seat belt as we are about to go through a very turbulent tempest. But be also certain that we will come out of it. We will defeat Islam and behead this monster. Victory will be ours. Stupidity and ignorance cannot stand the truth.
When the UN Human Rights chief called for a public debate in the Maldives on the practice of flogging women accused of extra marital sex, Maldives’ Foreign Minister Ahmed Naseem said, “What’s there to discuss about flogging? There is nothing to debate about in a matter clearly stated in the religion of Islam. No one can argue with God.” Naseem is right. No one can argue with God. The only thing left for us to do is to challenge the authenticity of this Islamic god. Is Allah God or is he the Devil? Is he real or the figment of the sick mind of a mentally disturbed man? This is the only thing left for us to debate.
Those who think Islam can become moderate are either fools or deceivers. Make no mistake they are the enemy. People like Holland C. Tylor, Zuhdi Yassser, Tarik Fatah, etc., are deceivers. They are not our allies. Once we accept Islam as God’s religion we have to accept all its consequences and submit to people like Naseem. We can no longer argue with his logic. Those who don’t like the Islamic laws are left with no other option than to denounce this faith of hate altogether.
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yeah get outta there!
Slave mentality, your pedophile prophet of evil is already in hell with his allah.
Hating Islam, abusing to prophet, Quran and Allah are acts of worst creatures. Abusing prophet or criticizing him world worst and unforgivable act. Hell is ready for such people.
Well Mr Ali sina is a knowledgeable person who could reply to you but until u receive a reply from him let me tell you my own story. I used to watch peace TV many a times and most of the times i found Mr Dr Zakir Naik boasting that Islam is the only religion where many scientific truths researched and found out now were already mentioned in the quran. As he was man of comparative religion he used to bring out fallacies in other religion. I am an Hindu by birth but an Atheist now. I could understand the fallacies and contradictions in Hinduism as was brought out by Dr zakir Naik. I was curious to know about quran. I was impressed by two things in quran which was told to me by a few Muslim friends of mine. one, abhorrence to Alcohol & other intoxicating things, two Zakath i.e compulsory donation to the poor. I tried to learn about quran in the internet. After going through some suras in quran i began to hate quran especially the verses that advocated hatred towards Non muslims. I was on the verge of converting to islam untill i chanced up on the site " Faith freedom" . faith freedom showed me the ugly side of Islam. I tried to read objectively and understand some of the suras in quran in islamic sites & also faith freedom.org.Now i know that Islam is one of the most intolerant religion. Most of the religion despite it absurdities does not teach to hate fellow human beings while Islam does. many things that are good in islam which appeals to many were already mentioned in the bible & torah. Now i am fully convinced that Islam is a big lie. This is cult which if allowed to be spread will bring doom to this world. i am convinced that some day Tony Blairs dauughter in Law will realize this. i don't know how she will come out of the trap that Islam is.
It is your hallucination.
The vedas are the reservoir of natural,universal knowledge . All over the world , people worship and welcome them . Vedas are for all humanity .
Read SIRA,read HADIS,Read Q@QUURRAAN, read ISLAMIC history , know ISLAMIC culture.See ISLAMIC societies !!!. Decide to be a good human being. Know what are the characters of a good human being. Be honest, be truthful, have good conscience. Choose kindness, compassion, peace, equality of all people.Be impartial with impeccable integrity. Then you will see how wvil ISLAM is . ISLAM does not belong in human civilization. ISLAM is fascism, hate filled, violent and discriminatory and killing of unbelievers. ISLAM is sex and slavery. MO was a liar, apedo, a racist, a lecher, a killer, a criminal and a thug. What is there in MO 's character you want to follow ? Any ordinary human being is 1000 x better then MO . Know truth.
hello kavya, if u really want to know the reality of pisslam then first read Quran…then Bhagvad Gita..u will understand d reality by urself…or if u want some kind of authentic document in brief then u can contact me on my id..
Each country has penal laws to prevent crimes, even than you cannot avoid perpetration of crime in the society . But only Islam sanctify all the "crimes" to a status of divinity in its gospel (Koran)and thus encourage Muslims to commit all kinds of ugly crimes,so Ali Sina has a mission.Your next part is today's big joke for me "You guyz are so jealous for you being muslims " ,what a hilarious statement. This Mr Sina has thoroughly stripped your cult here in this site,the final conclusion derived by all of us here is,you guyz are "waste oxigens". No genuine human is desires of your religion,keep it with you.
man.. you guyz are so jealous that we are Muslims… Raj dear, eliminate corruption, racism, child molestation, rape, etc from your country first and then afterwards come n face us…
Thanx…
There are many Maldivians in Sri Lanka and they are very happy. Some of them even dress a little like the Sri Lankans. Yes Sri Lanka would be the best place to go and reside.
TO the Mohammedan QURRATALAYN. You said:
"WHAT'S SO ABSURD ABOUT ANTS TALKING ???????????? "
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Read your question again and aloud.Listen to yourself !! And think about it.
I personally find surah 2:1 ( Alif,Lam, Meem.) sounding less absurd.
But then again: I am no muslim.
I have to congratulate you LONELYLONER!!
What a sharp and intelligent comment about Ali Sina !!
Nobody knows who Ali Sina is. Nobody knows AminRAT, Ali(en) , Empty Head, etc.etc.
The only thing we know about them. is what these persons write !
You said: "
What's the point of trying to discredit him anyway?
Try to discredit his message! That's what matters. Prove him wrong. Show him and show us all that Islam is actually good, that Quran is actually an excellent book, that Islam is making the world a better place, and that Muhammad's a good man who is worth following.
You don't trust Ali Sina? I agree, I don't either.
But what he's saying makes sense to me, and that's good enough.
What about Islam then? Well I'm waiting, please show me that Islam actually makes sense, I sincerely want to be shown this. Please."
RIGHT ON SPOT
Killing in the way of Allah is highest morality as per Islam. It is halal while killing without reciting name of Allah is haram. islam is a religion of peace. But Muslim also compel when someone come in the way of Allah. When kaffirs / non-believers oppose Islam, religion of Allah.
@I'm no Almighty
Prophet was the greatest man that is why Allah chose him for the prophecy. Prophet was also slave of Allah. So, ordering to do work to slave not dependency but right of owner.
@I'm no Almighty
As per Islam only Prophets can have direct interaction with Allah. Other humans can't.
____God what is the need of Prophet or Book___
It is Allah will to teach the humans through prophet & books. We can not question on it.
Well when we can have Direct Interaction with God what is the need of Prophet or Book ! If Webcam donot bring your friend before you do not use it. So also Television, Telephone, Internet etc which will not allow face to face Interaction !
Distorted the Holy Script ! Then it must be Taqiya or Blasphemy !
What prevented the Mightiest God from giving his prophecy to all at once by his Will instead of depending on Archaic Method of depending on some ordinary man ( who proclaimed himself to be the last prophet ). This itself is enough to say your God is only a 'Convinient Tool to Silence Any Voice of Dissent ' at the hands of Religious Dictators.
Killing in the name of Merciful God & Peaceful Religion is act of Morality, is it ?
Adultery is may be wrong but Adulterer should not be Brutalised. Talaq/remarry is nothing but Licenced Adultery
The only way 4 witnesses could
Know if there is extra marital sex is if they bore
4 holes in the bed room where the act takes place LOL,
What sane Man+Woman would have sex in front of
4 witnesses ???????
Contd..
It is only for our Mental Peace & Pleasure & Social/Psychological Needs that we believe in some form of God. Worshiping God is Not Mandate of God. Even Human Parents will not hit their Childern to Wall if they disobey them leave alone prasing them, then how come The Most Merciful God turns More Cruel than Saitan just if some one donot worship him. Pl tell your fellow beings not to play at the hands of Saitan in the disguise of serving God !
Man who is an Ordinary Creation of God learnt creating things with Six Sigma Quality & Consistency in less than million years of his came into being. He has created Internet which carries knowledge to Nook & Corner of the World in Seconds. God being Almighty would have Created Praying Parrots if He desired so. OR being Almighty atleast he would have given a Multi-Lingual Global Audible Annunciation Proclaiming His Supremacy & Duties to Man-kind towards Him OR Even now He can Display Vernacular Message displayed on TV, Computer Terminal etc.(without help of some Crook). First of all God would not have created Saitan & would have ensured that every baby starts chanting him right from birth. All this to say that God is least interested in the way people worship Him. All He wants is His Creation 'MAN' should use the Brain (given by God) to understand His Creation, Create new things on His behalf & become more Humane.
Your name is Aminriadh wherever you go, in any language you are spelt. Your clothing/food/ behaviour is same whre ever you go. How come God will be called in different names at different place. Oh! God & His(?) Qualities is also Relativistic in nature ?
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It is only for our Mental Peace & Pleasure & Social/Psychological Needs that we believe in some form of God. Worshiping God is Not Mandate of God. Even Human Parents will not hit their Childern to Wall if they disobey them leave alone prasing them, then how come The Most Merciful God turns More Cruel than Saitan just if some one donot worship him. Pl tell your fellow beings not to play at the hands of Saitan in the disguise of serving God !
very nice article, Mr Ali Sina ! you are a ray of hope for freedom
Very Good …. Thought
Hi ,crazy Ali(en).
You are funny again here. YEP….YOU ARE SURELY THE LAYGHING STOCH HERE.
I think you look exactly like the speaking doll (creation of Jeff Dunham) AHMED THE DEAD TERRORIST. The only difference is …you are still alive…because you are a coward !!!
WHEN will you blow up yourself for your evil fake god allah? We are waiting for a long time now.
NEXT !!!! LOL
The god of Jews and Christians is JHWEH .THIS IS HIS NAME IN THE BIBLE. And you know that very well. Illah means god (no CAP as you did ,TAQIYYA MUSLIM)) in general in Arabic. Allah is the name of a god of the pre-islamic pagans.They had 360 gods (illah) one of which was called ALLAH . And your evil fake prophet took this ALLAH as his only god (besides himself of course.
No. Ali Sina is no god but the modern-day "Moses" who is leading his enlightened flocks out from the shackles of the very cruel "Pharaoh ".
Because of 9/11 attacks on USA, Pres. George W. Bush had overreacted to attack Iraq in revenge. The attackers of 9/11 had to share the blame, too.
"Allah is the name of the pagan god of the moon."
How do you know? And why do Christians and Jews – use the word Allah too? For example see the Arabic Bible.
Allah – simply means – "The God"
al – is the Arabic definite article
Illah – means God.
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" Allah is a shadow whereas God is Light! "
How so – when Allah simply means the God.
Dear and honest MARY !
Thank you four your honest reaction !
It is about time that we WOMEN stand up and fight against this evil and women- oppressing CULT ISLAM.
Go on fighting by telling to everybody and everywhere the truth about Islam ! JUST THE TRUTH WILL DO THE JOB ! ISLAM MUST BE DESTROYED BECAUSE IT IS AN EVIL CULT OF AN EVIL SELFISH MAN , THE FAKE PROHET MOHAMMED !!!
I think you must be a terribly lonely and sad person, Ali. I will pray for you too. For the truth to touch your heart. Islam is not God's truth. Allah is not God. Allah is the name of the pagan god of the moon. It cannot stand up to the one true God. Allah is a shadow whereas God is Light! May the God of our fathers bless you and bring you to the Truth!
I will pray for you, Bjorn Sophia, and for the Maldives. It breaks my heart that such evil exists in the world–our world. It is amazing to me that people do not know the freedom that God offers us, in pure Love and Joy–His only Son, our Lord Jesus Christ. May everyone who reads this post feel the warmth of His Love envelope his/her heart. May the Blessings of our Lord be upon you, now and forever. Amen!
like sand nigger monkeys are pouring petrodollars in their puss. and all muslims are selling their underage daughters for mutah marriage to oily sheiks
@ ALI(EN) "Yes you do that Bjorn. Keep living in the shadows like your god Ali Sina. "
YES WE DO TAQIYYA TOO !! THAT IS ONE "GOOD" THING ISLAM DID TEACH US : WE SMILE IN YOUR FACE WHIL OUR HEARTS (AND ON INTERNET) CURSE YOU !! (REMEMBER: Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda' said, "We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them. )
Aren't you happy now,we follow your example !!!
Like Christians are paying Hindus for conversions hah aha !
Contact agniveer.com they might even pay you to become an apostate 😉
Mohammad was a fraud , but you can still call out to God, When you are forced to practice rituals , submit them to the real God and pray for guidance.
Allah want you to marry your son's wife, what a ridiculous Allah.
As per usual . . . you engage in such trifles. A case of hate mongering . Groups professing such ideology even in West are labeled as extremists.
You haven't even got out of the pit. As for the intelligence of the people who regularly comment here in your favour as it were . . . how many would you stick your neck out for?
Name them?
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Overwhelming majority come from fellow religions with their own axe to grind . . . like I have said before. . . one turn and and they would deny you in the next breath.
Hence you garner their support – despite falling to the level of sheer hypocrisy.
The high birth rate of Muslims in Islamic countries pose no threat to us. It is their immigration that poses the threat. We must stop the immigration of Muslims and preferably send them back. High number of Muslims in Islamic countries will only contribute to their poverty and death by starvation.
Countries such as India that have high number of Muslims should tax anyone who has more than two children. This will discourage Muslims to procreate like rabbit to overtake the country.
Oh dear Raj. Why do you try to talk sense to this fella.
We all know that the west fornicate and commit adultery, and that why the muslim women have too many children.
Crore is an indian expression, means 10.000.000. (Lakh)
But this is the problem.
Islam is in running mode.
Breeding warriors.
All over the world the birthrate for muslims is 3.5 or more.
Yemen it is 5.0 and Palestine it is 6.0 or more.
Ali is right; Islam is growing, preparing for war, or even worse, a democratic take-over by numbers. In some 50 years.
@No Name wrote: "Give me an example how Islam reduce intelligence !"
You dear No Name and Aminriadh are best examples.
@No Name.
What this to do with the Maldives.
No this is about Al Qaida using mentally desturbed people to bomb civilian Iraquis.
And the like.
Aminriadh wrote :didn't we the Muslims clean up India
Yes, was it 80 millions death hindues until you gave up?
"Confused" is probably the most appropriate choice.
Hej Ali. You wrote: Either you are an Atheist or you Believe.
No I am agnostic.
When that suits me.
Bangladesh had 3 crore Hindus and 3 crore Muslims in 1947. Now even after more than 2 or 3 crores of illegal Muslim Bangladeshi immigrants into India – the situation is like this :-
Muslims 13 crores and Hindus 1.5 crores.
Faster breeder reactors indeed.
in starting of islam it spreaded by threats , war , sword and forceful conversions
and now besides forceful conversion in muslim countries (example pakistan .. kind of hell for non muslims ) ..islam is spreading by breeding faster than pigs
they breed faster than pigs (in bulk ) do multiple marrieges and produces 5-8 children each
" If I put the Adhan as an example by mistake, and then I gave example of an actual prayer (to Allah), then all it means is that ….. "
But you didn't put it as a mistake . . . because when I pointed it out . . . rather than responding or commenting . . . you gave "another" example.
It is only not . . . when you are caught out . . . . its a mistake!
"aminriadh, you may think you are a master at deception, but your tactics will not work at FFI. Your post is perfect proof why people shouldn't trust Muslims."
See EVE in this – the implication is there – ALL yes ALL – Muslims are "Untrustworthy."
You are mere child . . . immature and often illogical.
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"I had said, "It is clear that you are as big a liar as any other Muslims posting stuff here. " "
Yet . . . that is what I said . . . any Muslims who posts here – is automatically a liar.
And that is what YOU said.
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This will imply to you that all Muslims are liars. . . . or do you deny that?
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You called me a "liar" twice – and both times without any proof . .. or explaining what the lie is . . .
. . . hence that means you were being untruthful yourself.
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dr Ali Sina
how these dictators in middle east were kicked in 4 months who ruled more than 4 decades , is any outerforce is responsible for this
Pseudoscience which accept reincarnation !
But according to reincarnation you will be what depend on your current deeds. What if you will be donkey next birth ?
“What idol do YOU worship Sina?
Science. That is my idol. If I reincarnate I will study physics.
Yes you do that Bjorn. Keep living in the shadows like your god Ali Sina.
Forget your great great grandchildren's lifetimes, you won't see Islam regress until the end of times. Unfortunately, you guys are fighting a losing battle.
Accept defeat and move on.
But an athiest wouldn't write a book on how to invoke God,unless he's out of his mind.
Either you believe in God or you don't.
You don't say there's nothing as a Creator on one hand and support the belief of worshipping God through His own creation on the other.
That's called insanity.
What I believe regarding the Hindu Scriptures is not the question.
It's you who believe in them,don't you?
thank you Ali Sina, i do advice all apostates to have anonymus profiles, and never speak their mind in public. you are right. and you really do understand the situation in Maldives, i guess it will be the same in any country if they were all muslims.
we apostates are not safe, so its up to us to protect ourselves.
i will not stop what im doing, i will speak the truth about islam. they hacked 2 of my FB accounts, but im still here, and i know i wont see any change in my life time but even if my great great grandchildren gets to see the day maldives without islam, is a day to live and works for.
"Is Sina worshipping idols? That is the question you have to ask yourself and Sina. Till then do not judge. "
That's precisely what I did,Ali Sina's mouthpiece. My question was for Sina,not for you. Don't poke your nose when your opinion is not asked.
And you still believe your statue idols made this universe knowTheEnemy?
Going back to your earlier point about ceasing to be God, this is what Muslims believe:
Say: He is God, the One and Only!
God, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not nor is He begotten.
And there is none like unto Him.
and this is what your people say:
You are the One Creator of all the worlds,
and of that which moves and that which does not move,
You alone are fit for worship, You are the highest Teacher,
In all the worlds there is none equal to You.
– Bhagavad-Gita 11:43
"Do you have any idea how much bigger God is compared to us humans? It is just not reasonable to think that God is looking for 'thank you's ', and adoration. It was the narcissist Muhammad who wanted thank you's and adoration. Watch these videos, to get a rough idea of how huge the universe is, and then ask yourself, Is it even possible that God could be upset at humans for any reason?"
So you admit your mind cannot even conprehend the vastness of this universe. Good. With that you may also have realised the might and power of the Creator of this universe?
Now,why did God create you and me? What's the deal with this concept called 'Hereafter'?(I'm assuming you believe in the Hereafter.If you don't, I'll have to move a step back and begin with the basics)
I absolutely understand your theory of 'God doesn't care how we worship him'. If God had not given us any instructions as to how we should worship Him,it really wouldn't have mattered. But God DID give us instructions regarding not just 'how to worship Him and how not',but regarding everything related to your way of living in this short,transient life. After all,this life that we live will come to end one day,and it's the Hereafter that's important.
It may sound unreasonable to you that a loving God would punish His slave simply for worshipping a stone,or for not worshipping at all,but it doesn't seem unreasonable to you that you do absolutely everything in your life,from enjoying the pleasures to violating the rules,and not do what you've been actually created for,that is to worship God in the way He wants you to worship Him? The reason why God created His slave is so that he worships Him. Since this life is transient and will come to an end one day,the real test is whether or not you worship Him in the way HE instructed. After all,HE's the Master,isn't He?
Now you may wonder where did God say I created you so that you worship Me?
If you ask me,the answer is right there in the Qur'an,the direct speech of God,but since you don't believe in it,I'd like to know from you what is the purpose of your creation.
If an anthropologist writes an article/ book about how a certain tribe of the past viewed their deity, does that mean that the anthropologist actually believes in everything that the tribe believed??
Do you believeHindu scriptures are correct, and that they know what they are talking about?
You have a funny logic there. If a medical student were to write about some disease while learning – does that mean he is suffering from that disease?
Quranic and Islamic logic is bad for your brain. Quranic and Islamic logic is STUPID.
"If someone worships a stone idol (even if he thinks there is real God in that idol),it is because God made it happen"
I'm afraid your Scriptures don't agree with your guesswork.
http://www.vedmandir.com/node/152
Sina may be professing atheism.
But there is nothing wrong in his explaining the facts about the idol worshippers.
Is Sina worshipping idols? That is the question you have to ask yourself and Sina. Till then do not judge.
Sina is a humanitarian atheist. A person who believes in kindness and humanity and also an atheist. A person who believes in the Golden Rule.
Get that into your fat head, drill it through your thick skull and etch it onto your miniscule brain (smaller than a rat's brain).
It doesn't matter what the Hindu books say; secondly they were writtten down some 3500 years ago, and before that were passed orally for God knows how long. The Hindu holy books do NOT ban its followers from using their brain; they actually ask us to keep gaining knowledge.
I posted videos to show how huge the universe is, did you watch them? God is even bigger than that. You can't even imagine how little we are relative to God. Even if Islam takes over the entire world, Earth itself is insignificantly small (and that's an understatement) relative to the universe. It is just not reasonable to believe that God would be upset with how people believe.
Here watch another video, that shows how huge the universe is. Apparantly, it takes 10000 light years just to be able to see the spiral of our galaxy. And there are a 100 billion galaxies in the universe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvdL3R7fDL4
"Idol worshippers of all the cultures worshipped the spirit that the idol personified"
What idol do YOU worship Sina?
Atheism yesterday,idol worshipping today,what do you have in menu for tomorrow?
This one's for you
'It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open the mouth and remove all doubt'
"God doesn't care whether we worship idols or not"
Did God tell you this?
Yajurveda 40:9 –
"They enter darkness those who worship natural things"
"They sink deeper in darkness those who worship sambhuti (created things)"
Just as you interpret the verses of Qur'an,please interpret the above verse for us.
Both are wrong, still this is a private matter,
and it is not me or you or the society who
has the right to judge and condemn the
adluterer/adulteress.
I stand against crime against any group of humans, be it Muslims, Christians, Serbians, Jews, all race, all religion. I am not like you who dont have a problem or pretend not to notice the other crimes against humanity and decide to fight only violent muslims. you guys are not for humanity, simply put you are against Islam!On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:31 PM, dramani edem <[email protected]> wrote: Protect Islam yes, protect suffering people, whether Muslims or not, i stand against every injustice, i don't find any injustice good. i condemn it in every form. i condemn Muslims who are belligerent!….don't seat behind your pc and think you know me, you know me not!!!
This is shocking ! Budhists are committing all these
atrocieties although it is against the teachings of
their religions.
Don't you have anything to say, Sina?
"…….so who's the liar?? "
You are – as is CLEAR from the above.
When you went on to confirm:
Yes, they do. Here is an example-
"ASH-HADU ANLA ELAHA ILLA-ALLAH WA ASH-HADU ANNA MOHAMMADAN RASUL-ALLAH"
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Why didn't you bother to read the response above?
Do not be too confident about your numbers. Your numbers are just petro dollar backed numbers – they will evaporate just like petrol.
While the efforts of Ali Sina are paying, there is the other side – the petro dollar funded Islamic sites active on the internet as well as in the outside world – where they give incentives and promote Islam like anything. Islam known for its taqiyya make the gullible people easy soft targets and work on them with their taqiyya magic.
Islam in the present age, is finally nothing, but the Saudi royal family funded terror machine – which seeks to deflect any acts of the islamists towards others/
I don't think we have any worries with the likes of you then hunter.
I mean come on now, you're not the brightest of sparks are you?
Nominating your god Ali Sina for the Nobel Peace Prize is like you saying Hitler should be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize and you for the Pulitzer Prize!
Stick to driving the mini cabs mate, the mini cabs.
Oh, so the INTERNET makes the difference? So why didn't you say this in the first place. 'All Muslims denounce Islam and start believing and subscribing to the Internet'. You mean to say, all along Ali Sina has got it wrong when promoting Atheism?
More importantly, because the Internet is saving the masses from Muslims killing them when fault pointing, Islam should be decreasing? Right?
The world wide web was invented by Sir Tim Berners-Lee in the 80's but wasn't really life changing until the early 90's. And since this period, Islam has grown year in and year out which is also the period Ali Sina started his crusade. So exactly what difference has the internet made to the demise of Islam clever clogs?
You mean it has brought more people to Islam, than out, thus the increase of over 25% in the last 20 years?
So exactly how the hell can this be the difference that couldn't be done in 1400 years which you so confidently stated?
Do you even understand what you write?
If I had your logic and comprehension skills, I'd be bankrupt years ago. Please stick to your day job.
Try again, but with something else. Maybe the moon this time?
Whatever he is Hunter, he is still more educated than you, more powerful than you, more wealthier than you, more intelligent than you and above all, more CHOSEN than you.
Get back under the rock!
You do not believe in a God, but deny being Atheist.
Maybe this will help the retardness:
'Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist'.
Either you are an Atheist or you Believe. However, judging by your venom on here and FFI, you are Hindu batting on the side of Atheism, but afraid to admit it to anyone in case they ridicule you.
Of course it does Raj. Why? Because you said so.
Either you are Hindu or Atheist.
And how do I know?
It was your Mohammad who was a rascal and you Muslims have been fooled by Mohammad. We, in fact, pity you.
We hope you will see the light of the day and blame your forefather – aka Mohammad the scoundrel prophet.
…..A SEWAGE worker is million times better than a dacoit, a pedophile, a corpse banger, a lecher, a murderer, a filthy pig …………..what ever you call your ugly prophet by????
…this is the second time…..i came to this site…..and read a few posts of yours…….though linguistically…you look impressive….but content wise moronic…. …TELL ME FRANKLY…….are you really an arab…or a westerner hired by 'good for nothing' oil well owners…to defend indefensible PISSLAM………
…3 WORLD WAR…..Commies+soldiers of PISSLAM against INFIDELS………..result….humanity perishes or pisslam…………..no doubt mullah aka kutte da pilla will urge pisslam will triupmh…..but give mussIES a chance………….with iran and porkistan having nukes, and dhimmi head of states in major democracies………..I think pisslam has a fair chance……..UNLESS these mother f**r's near and dear ones are assaulted by the army of pedophile……
…we all will die…..or KABBA will be ragged to ground……..to build a landmark of universal brotherhood……….if this happens…..
……i for one (an ordinary man, with no divine calling)………..profess……NOBEL PEACE PRIZE FOR 2025 goes to ALI SINA………
….the DHIMMMI…impotent govt of republic of india….alleged regional power….could not help help the democratically elected president….who had a foresight and action plan for rapid and inclusive development plan ingrained in democratic values………….that was a great loss……..and only italian government of india is to be blamed………(yes india is governed from rome….)…/
hahahahaha u r right xD
Ali Sina is his inspiration ?!?!?!!?
I wonder what Ali Sina will do for u when u die,, that if u r still against ISLAM!!!!
Ek Sat Wohi Onkar. How true!
In the Bible it is said that God said let there be light and there was light. [But before that was God's word which was converted to light.]
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
The Word Onkar – which the Hindu/Indian civilization has shown long before anyone has discovered, which Guru Nanak Dev endorsed as Ek Sat Wohi Onkar.
Will Durant has rightly said In the beginning was the word, and with it man became man.
Man has been lying. Lying means giving out wrong words. Instead of respecting the words. Instead of telling the truth and respecting the words. The 'word' energy – the sound energy. There is much to be learnt/discovered.
Saints/mystics always live in truthfulness and speak the truth. So whatever they say, will turn out to be true. This is what Indian wisdom says.
When someone says, Ek Sat, wohi Onkar, understand that that person has knowledge of God and is a saint/mystic.
Guru Nanak Dev indeed was a great Saint.
Reply by Ali ( Muslim )
I told you I will turn it up.
I am Muslim and subscribe to Islam by choice.
What about you Raju? What do you subscribe to? Specifics please.
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I told you I will turn it up. These lines show one thing.
This is what is called the red faced denial (of defeat). Islam is a cancer indeed.
And so I do not have any inferiority.
I do not also suffer from a superiority complex.
I believe no one should have any complex. I believe in giving respect and getting respect. I believe in the philosophy I AM OK, YOU ARE OK.
Even though I believe in the I am OK, you are OK philosophy – experience has taught me that Muslims are not OK.
I am not an atheist. I do not mind being equated with atheists or any religion in the world – so long as you do not call me a follower of Islam,.Mohammad or Muslim- I do not mind it. I find goodness in all the religions – except Islam.
I do not believe in a Creator God. But I do believe in goodness. If you say God is the ultimate goodness, then yes, I do believe in that ultimate goodness and God.
Since believing in that goodness, I do not become an atheist. I am also a humanitarian. Meaning I believe in humanity. Meaning I believe in doing goodness. Humanitarians do not go about killing people for your information.
You will, of course know not the meaning of the word humanity and humanitarian. Because you come from a cult which believes in killing the opposition or killing those who do not believe you.
Try looking up the meaning of the word humanity and humanitarian for once.
The idol is only the medium through which the Almighty is invoked. The idol is never God. The idol – channelises our energy/concentration. It helps us to crystallise.
My friend, India, China, Egypt, etc have civilizations which are more than 5000 years old. You will find wisdom here. Wisdom does not come in a day. Wisdom comes from years and years of living, trial, experiences, etc. Wisdom comes from suffering. Wisdom comes from observation.
Thousands of years had gone into making these civilizations rich. What is the essence of this 5000 years of civilization? What can you extract from these 5000 years of knowledge? That extract is what is called WISDOM.
This wisdom carries value. Respect and revere this wisdom. Venerate it.
Just do not be an iconoclast or a cynic and show your IQ. Try to understand the reason behind this wisdom. Having survived for more than 5000 years – and giving to us its extract – this wisdom needs to be respected.
Add the Greek philosophy/wisdom to it – and may be mankind may possibly have knowledge which is enough to see it go through without any more requirement of knowledge – to ensure a peaceful life So that all of the mankind becomes happy and lead a productive and useful life.
That life which is compatible with MotherNature. That life which does not become a burden on Mother Nature.
I am afraid friend, Islam does not add to any solution. Islam adds only to the problem.
Mosques are a place of congregation where Muslims pray together. This increases brotherhood.
Similarly, there is a force outside of us, creating us, controlling us, maintaining us, etc. You have to name this force. Right? You have to call this force or Power some name? So we coined the word GOD – to incorporate all these ideas/concepts of creator, controller, etc.
Similarly, the concept is given a shape/form in the idol/statue – so all our feelings can be directed to that statue/idol.
In Yoga, there is a form of meditation called DHARANA – concentration by staring. An idol/statue helps in concentration.
Can you feel/touch words? NO. You can however store the words told by someone. The words which I speak of, carries no holiness in them. But God's words, you hear, you store it by writing it down. But then these are not God's words. The sound energy of God's words have already been exhausted when God spoke and you listened. That same sound is not going to come again. Yet to get a feel of those sound/words – you write it down, memorize. Yet you respect/revere the book which contains God's words? Right? Will you trample your holy book? NO. Why? Because you revere/respect it.
Similarly, our mind gives us a form of God and we create that form and consecrate it. Continuous consecration of that idol/statue will mean I will not denigrate/disrespect it.
Now, after consecration, I will try to have atleast good thoughts in front of that idol/statue – because I will not lie in front of that idol/statue considering it to be a representation of God. And of course, it gives concentration.
Who is the Governor of a State or the Collector of a District? He is the official representative of the King. And we show our respect to the King by obeying the commands of this Governor or District Collector.
Similarly, after consecration of the idol – we take it to be the one representing God and in its presence we do not move away from our ideals. This idol helps us to strengthen our ideals.
Will you trample upon the Quran? NO. Why? After all it is only paper and ink. Still you give this paper and ink a higher position – a respect – which is similar to the respect we give to the idol.
Respective means giving reverence, appreciating the value, etc.
So, your going to the mosque and our worshipping an idol is both equal. Both serves the same purpose. Remembering God, giving concentration, etc.
What we intended to say, I think, was that adultery as a crime should not be penalised with corporal punishment like flogging or stoning.
We Indians have a very sure method. We have what we call gotra or clans – and a gotra deity or kul devta/devi.
No marriage is allowed in the same gotra from the father's side.
And an additional caution is added when we try to avoid marriage between at least three generations of relatives / cousins – instead calling them as one's own brother and sister.
India has maintained this since the last 5000 years – barring some 1in 100000 incidents – these rules are almost accepted/followed.
Wisdom of India/Hindus
"Maybe I'm missing something here. Exactly what was the answer knowTheEnemy? Please refresh my memory"
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Lets first refresh the question. Your question was-
"What makes it different this time that it couldn't be done in 1400 years?"
And my answer in brief was-
The Internet is what is different. Before Internet, people couldn't anonymously point out the faults in Islam. Anyone who openly pointed out faults in Islam was killed. But now that the internet is here, not only people can criticise Islam, but Muslims cannot kill the critic either.
And that makes all the difference.
It is very easy to know the father of a child by
the DNA, of course this was not known 14
centuries ago, that's why we are convinced
that the laws at that time are invalid in our time.
I am not encouraging adultery, I am just saying
that the state or the government has no right
to interfere in the personal affairs and to
violate a person's privacy.
he he… the scientists can prove their findings so that even the most stubborn has no option but to agree. Even the Hindus have proven to me that polytheism, representations of gods, and making stories in the name of gods, helps a human understand God better. This despite the fact that I grew up as Sikh. But your Allah, who is supposedly the True God, cannot prove to me that Islamic way is the better way?? Instead he makes excuses like those in 36:7, 36:8, 36:9, 36.10 etc?? Why is it that the scientists never make such excuses?
Here is another video that shows how the biggest star is only a tiny dot that forms our galaxy, and there are a hundred billion galaxies in our universe. We don't even know what is outside of this universe. That should give you a rough idea of how big God is! Do you really think this God pays any attention to whether or not we pray, and who/ how we pray??
[youtube HEheh1BH34Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q youtube]
"Wouldn't it be the height of ingratitude that instead of thanking Him,you thank a piece of stone,which as a matter of fact is His own creation,His own property?"
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God ISN'T looking for any gratitude! The only one who feels better when a human offers gratitude, is that human himself. Do you have any idea how much bigger God is compared to us humans? It is just not reasonable to think that God is looking for 'thank you's ', and adoration. It was the narcissist Muhammad who wanted thank you's and adoration. Watch these videos, to get a rough idea of how huge the universe is, and then ask yourself, Is it even possible that God could be upset at humans for any reason?
[youtube g4iD-9GSW-0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4iD-9GSW-0 youtube]
"The only thing unacceptable to God Almighty,the true One God is that you worship something/someone else other than the One Who feeds you lovingly,gives you enough oxygen ito survive."
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QurratAlAyn, we already cannot do anything that is unacceptable to God. Religious philosophers of the past have spent centuries trying to figure out what makes sense and what does not. According to them, NOT A LEAF flutters unless God wishes it. If you see a leaf flutter, it was because God made it happen. If someone worships a stone idol (even if he thinks there is real God in that idol), it is because God made it happen. It is NOT unacceptable to God. No one, not even Athiests, can do the littlest of things that are 'unacceptable' to God.
Because Muslims believe in the Quran, their philosophical understanding of things is stunted. Their understanding of God is no better than Muhammad's understanding, and he was a ignoramus himself. The Quraish understood God much better than Muhammad did.
I was being sarcastic when I talked about God having trouble going to bathroom. My point was that God doesn't care whether we worship idols or not. But you choose to believe the goobledygook of someone who didn't even know where the sun set. Without being objective, you will never be able to see things clearly. Also, please read my response to Ali above.
"But for you knowTheEnemy, who subscribes to Sikhism and Hinduism, both do not condone idolatry, so why you doing it?"
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Sikhism tells me to use my brain. (If you want I can tell you a story where Guru Nanak taught people to use their brain).
And Hinduism has proven to me that not only the one true God stays intact despite people worshipping idols and pictures, the human understanding of God becomes better too. If you want, I can give an example of this too.
"….God has to be the supreme and nothing must be unto like Him, otherwise he ceases to be God. "
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Are you saying that in order for Allah to cease to be God, all I have to do is make one picture or statue and call it God?? Does that make sense? It was Muhammad who thought the way you are thinking, Ali. For him, he (Mo) ceased to be supreme if he saw anyone adoring/ revering anyone other than him and his god (that he controlled). When people believed in Mo's God, they were totally dependent on Mo, and that is what he wanted. And 1400 years later, Muslims are still stuck in this stupidity.
I am afraid you don't have a good idea of the supremeness of God. No matter how many pictures, statues, or other things "unto like Him" exist, God stays most powerful and most supreme. Any idol worshipping polytheist Hindu can tell you this!
Voltaire said those who can make you believe in absurdities can make you do atrocities. This perfectly describes Islam and Muslims. They thin by mere belief and disbelief one can turn clean and unclean. How this is logically possible? Don’t ask because Islam and logic are mutually exclusive. It is the same stupid religion that teaches by reciting a verse sex can be halal and without that verse it is haram. What a verse has to do with sex? By the same token they have made sexual immorality legal and divinely ordained. All a man has to do to commit adultery with a multiple of women is to recite that magical verse. Voila! The illicit sex becomes licit and it even pleases Allah.
When the human brain stops working no humanity is left. One is reduced into worse than animal.
Marriage, even among brothers and sisters is more likely to happen in Islamic countries, specially in Shiite countries where muta is practiced. A man can have two temporary wives for a day each and impregnate both of them. Then these children meet years later and get married, not knowing that they are sibling. The chance of that is less than one in 100,000? Okay, consider the millions of Muslims practicing muta for the last 1400 years and do the math.
The western society, with all its flaws which are the side effect of freedom is a billion times superior to Islamic world. The fact that some people have sex with each other is in no way affect me, but human rights abuses does. Muhammad has damaged the brains of his followers to such an extent that they see extra marital sex a major crime while stoning people is accepted as divine.
What is marriage? It is a contract between two people. If one party breaks that contract the only person that is affected is the other side of the contract. All he or she has to do is leave the cheating partner. Why others should intervene, beat or stone someone? This is insanity. You have lived in this insanity so long that to you it is normal. No it is not normal. It is barbarity. I keep saying Muslims are savages. I am not trying to insult them. I am trying to unveil a reality. What you do with your dick is none of my business and vice-verso. Half burying people in the ground and throwing stones at them is wrong. That is criminal and evil. It is diabolic. Having sex without reciting a stupid verse is not a crime.
The sad reality is that all Muslims do it. The incidences of incest is much higher among Muslims that any other people. But they hide it and if it comes to light they kill the poor woman who is often the victim of rape.
This is how west is building wack society ! lol
You are spoiling sensibility , sensuality of relationship and building wack society where no body know who can be a father of child in his house lol. Your morality of human is not more than animals.
I wonder why polygamy is problem to you but not adultery if freedom of using genitals is concerned?
I have explained this many times that your delusional win/win situation is just that, a delusion.
Assuming God exists you will go to hell because you worship Allah who is not God but most likely Satan. There you go with your wih/win case.
“And why would Ali Sina an avowed Atheist plug Jesus, ”
This has been answered many times. I don’t believe in God or any messenger/son of God. I judge everyone with human standards and Jesus is a good human. Muhammad is an evil human.
You got that right. Without dressing up anything or pushing and shoving we hate Islam and we have not hidden it.
Yes it is human rights. If you choose to be an adulterer it is not my business. Others have no right to beat you or stone you. This is something between you and your conscience and maturity. As long as you don’t abuse someone else not one has any right to tell you how to use your genitals.
I couldn't give a rat's a@@ if you responded or not. You've been an avid supporter of FFI for 10 years and you sure ain't gonna change that stance overnight:
Anyway, you to your way and me to mine. (I will always be 50% up)
Maybe I'm missing something here. Exactly what was the answer knowTheEnemy? Please refresh my memory.
And why would Ali Sina an avowed Atheist plug Jesus, considering he believes in no religion and no Christianity?
Now please tell me how my win-win situation has been answered when an Atheist is promoting Christianity as an alternative to his own set of ideologies?
On this one, you can take all the time in the world.
That's why Atheists have killed more humans throughout history despite being the minority?
When you quote, back it up please. Not just toilet time dribble.
Or do you deny this fact about Atheism and it's atrocities?
In line with your own admission and measuring yardstick, you do suffer from such inferiority Raj.
No need to explain to knowTheEnemy. He has seen it for over 10 years and still holds his position.
How can you make the blind see?
Maybe this explains him better:
36:7The Word is proved true against the greater part of them: for they do not believe.
36:8 We have put yokes round their necks right up to their chins, so that their heads are forced up (and they cannot see).
36:9 And We have put a bar in front of them and a bar behind them, and further, We have covered them up; so that they cannot see.
36:10 The same is it to them whether thou admonish them or thou do not admonish them: they will not believe.
What you have to understand is that these FFI Ali Sina supporters are hardcore anti Muslims and will always have hatred towards Islam. No matter how they dress up their 'humanity', when push comes to shove, the hatred and venom always prevails from them.
Freedom for Adultery is human right !!!
Protect Islam yes, protect suffering people, whether Muslims or not, i stand against every injustice, i don't find any injustice good. i condemn it in every form. i condemn Muslims who are belligerent!….don't seat behind your pc and think you know me, you know me not!!!
Nonsense….this brutality is an obvious violation
to the human rights and his/her freedom.
“When you worship an idol,aren’t you claiming this piece of stone has some divinity,or some supreme power?”
No you don’t and not even the Quraish did, Ibn Ishaq says the Quriash did not worship the idols but what those idols represented. Idols were tangible representation of the spirit they believed. It is the same as you placing the picture of someone you love on your desk or hanging it on the wall so you can see him or her often. You may even touch that picture or kiss it. It is not the paper that you kiss,it is the person that the picture represents.
You Muslims also demonstrate the same idol worshiping towards the black stone in Ka’ba or towards the Quran.
Yes Muhammad derided the Quraish for worshiping stones and clay, but he was an ignoramus who did not grasp the idea behind idol worshiping. No human is as stupid as Muhammad to think like that. Idol worshipers of all the cultures worshiped the spirit that the idol personified. The idol was only an avatar of that spirit. The stupid Muhammad never got that right.
When Muslims go around Ka’ba, circumnavigate it and kiss the black stone, what is it that they are worshiping?
'And what happens to God if someone decides to worship a bread-basket?? The One True Invisible God can't go to bathroom or what?? '
If someone decides to worship a bread-basket or a mixer grinder,it's his own choice. Human beings have a free will. You're told what to do,how to do,what not to do and how to avoid doing that which you're not supposed to do.The instructions are clear. And now it's upto you to follow that which God said,or follow the likes of Mr.Sina,who conveniently twist the truth.
If you have read the Qur'an,you shouldn't be asking these questions.Incase you haven't read,God doesn't stand in need of going to bathroom. That's a human neccessity.
Seerah means the life of Prophet Muhammad. Hadith means the sayings of Prophet Muhammad.
If you tell a Hindu your idol-worshipping is stupid,the response wouldn't be pleasant to you.That's how seriously they are committed to their belief.
Blame their forefathers or their adamant attitude towards reasoning.
When you worship an idol,aren't you claiming this piece of stone has some divinity,or some supreme power? Don't you decorate it,place offerings before it,talk to it? Why on earth do you do this? You do this because you have been taught by your forefathers that this statue sitting in front of you is god.
The only thing unacceptable to God Almighty,the true One God is that you worship something/someone else other than the One Who feeds you lovingly,gives you enough oxygen ito survive.Wouldn't it be the height of ingratitude that instead of thanking Him,you thank a piece of stone,which as a matter of fact is His own creation,His own property?
Yes,killing even one innocent man (regardless of what religion he 'willingly' followed),is asthough you have killed the whole of humankind.That's how sacred God Almighty considers the life of His creation.If the person dies without repenting to Him,he bears the burden of the evil he did.However,out of His boundless Mercy,God may forgive him in exchange of some good he may have done.The good deeds and innocence of the victim wouldn't go in vain either.
If God goes to toilet, then he ceases to be God because he becomes human like, does he not?
For those that actually do believe in a God, which for the record is the majority of the world's population, God has to be the supreme and nothing must be unto like Him, otherwise he ceases to be God.
For atheists, this is not an issue, but they are a minority and always will be, so they have to stand at the back of the que and wait their turn.
Isn't that right Raj?
But for you knowTheEnemy, who subscribes to Sikhism and Hinduism, both do not condone idolatry, so why you doing it?
Google it and get your answer concerning the Mosque and why? It's all there for you and it hasn't stopped you before whilst Islam bashing and getting your info from there!
Also read what The Council of Trent said about images of Jesus, the Cross and Statues of Mary.
What about the Jews? What idol form do they worship?
Muslims Mr.Raj.Muzzies sounds too cheesy a word to use for someone of your level of knowledge.
As long as a place is neat and clean,a Muslim can pray anywhere,graveyard being an exception.Mosques are a place of congregation where Muslims pray together. This increases brotherhood.
"Even the microwave and bread basket despite Hindu Scriptures saying “His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye.”"
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And what happens to God if someone decides to worship a bread-basket?? The One True Invisible God can't go to bathroom or what??
why do the muzzies go to mosques to pray? Cant they all pray from their home? Why do they need a particular place to pray from? Or is it that their God can listen to their prayers only from their mosques? If mosques are redundant then why not bring them down?
Why a particular place of worship for the Muslims? The Christians have their statues , i.e. the Cross, statue of Mary, etc.
So they have a place of worship.
Since the Muslims do not have any idols or statues – then why do they want a particular place of worship? Why the mosques? Is it that your Allah can only listen to your prayers from your mosque?
Mosques are not idols or statues. They are the places of Worship, like the Church for the Christians and Synagogues for the Jews. I'm sure you can Google and find the answers as it doesn't stop you guys in copying and pasting any other stuff does it?
What the likes of you and Raj do is make a statue and call it God, even though it is strongly rejected in Sikhism.
For the Hindus, they'll just about worship anyone and anything, as long as it has a physical form. Even the microwave and bread basket despite Hindu Scriptures saying “His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye.”
(Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20)
But you 'humanitarian' aka enemies of civilization atheists will go one step further and worship nothing except yourselves, because you believe you are your own god, but come from nothing and will go to nothing.
Poor souls.
Good point! Hope s/he has an answer to this.
"The media might not be giving a clear view of the happenings, its obvious who is suffering! that is what i am drawing your attention to, stop pretending you don't see that the people who suffer when trouble makers cause trouble are innocent children and women not those who initiate or incites it!"
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In the Muslim world, people bomb/ kill others wholesale every other day. Why don't you point out those sufferings? Why don't Muslims make videos to point out those atrocities?? I know your real agenda, Edem. Just like those Muslims who make propaganda videos, you don't care about anyone suffering. You only care about protecting Islam.
"Why,may I ask,would you need an idol when you can directly ask God?"
Ask qurratalayn
why do the muzzies go to mosques to pray? Cant they all pray from their home? Why do they need a particular place to pray from? Or is it that their God can listen to their prayers only from their mosques? If mosques are redundant then why not bring them down?
"The Qur'an then made it clear that you and I don't require any idol to get our prayers conveyed to Allah"
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I do not have any problem if the Quran said that. But the Quran didn't stop there. It also said that those who do [use idols to get their prayers conveyed to Allah] are doing the most serious crime/ sin possible….Shirk. This crime is more serious even than raping or killing someone. And that is where I have a problem with the Quran and its sender. It is simply impossible that a just, reasonable God would claim such a thing. At most, idol-worship is stupid. But it is certainly not a crime, let alone a crime more serious than rape or murder.
It was only when I read Dr. Sina's articles that I realized why the Quran says so. Apparently, the 'messenger of Allah', Muhammad, was a narcissist. The only thing that mattered to him was that people pay attention to him, and him only. Anyone paying slightest reverance to someone else, eg going to other people's temples, their lectures, their prayer services etc, or even asking elders of the community for opinion, was intolerable for him. A narcissist is willing to go to any length to make people pay attention to him and him alone. That is why Muhammad called any god other than his god, and all idols, to be false, and praying to them as the most serious crime.
"Why,may I ask,would you need an idol when you can directly ask God?"
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When you ask an idol, you ARE directly asking God!
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"The Quraish at the time of Prophet Muhammad worshipped the 'One True God' but through idols,taking them as intercessors"
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We need to think here a little bit. Everyone is smart enough to know that a lifeless stone or picture cannot intercede. People have known this for thousands of years. The Quraish must have seen the idols differently. They must have seen them as representation of the diety(ies) who were lower to 'One True God'
Representation example: When you do online chat with your friend through webcam, you don't see the freind on the screen, what you see is his/her representation. The friend is not sitting in the computer screen, s/he is sitting somewhere else. Same thing with the Quraish idols.
Oh com'on, just because I got one minor thing from wikipedia, doesn't mean I get all my facts there. Else I wouldn't be here at FFI.
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Is this where you learnt the Qur'an too?
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Why? Do they have a wrong Qur'an over there? You know, there are 1.5b Muslims in the world. Someone should take responsibility to make sure Wikipedia has the right Quran, and right translations, don't you think?
It would be completely dumb to get one's facts only from one source. I got my facts from all sources, including the Islamic books, the commentaries of scholars, news, and personal observation of Muslims etc.
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I'd like you to explain me what hadith and seerah are.
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That's not how it works. I asked you first! I simply was curious if you knew what those were.
"This is why you are a hatemonger. Like Sina, to you all Muslims are automatically liars"
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aminriadh, you may think you are a master at deception, but your tactics will not work at FFI. Your post is perfect proof why people shouldn't trust Muslims. I didn't even remotely indicate that ALL Muslims are liars, but you presented it as such. I had said, "It is clear that you are as big a liar as any other Muslims posting stuff here. "
I was not expecting anything better, i am just telling you about the killings of muslims in burma, and there you go trying to justify and calling me a liar right. The media might not be giving a clear view of the happenings, its obvious who is suffering! that is what i am drawing your attention to, stop pretending you don't see that the people who suffer when trouble makers cause trouble are innocent children and women not those who initiate or incites it! Have i made any reference to supporting of any faction you pathetic homo sapiens!
The reason why your research and studying hasn't taken you anywhere is because you get your 'Islam facts' from anti-Islam sites like this.
I'd like you to explain me what hadith and seerah are.
" Well isn't that discriminatory on part of the So -Called allah to only allow Arab speakers the advantage of the 'true religion'? "
It took me about 9 months to become proficient in Classical Arabic (as a non-Arab). It would take any Modern Arab on average more or less the same time.
Now I see where you get your facts from – Wikipedia. Is this where you learnt the Qur'an too?
Why,may I ask,would you need an idol when you can directly ask God?
The Quraish at the time of Prophet Muhammad worshipped the 'One True God' but through idols,taking them as intercessors.
The Qur'an then made it clear that you and I don't require any idol to get our prayers conveyed to Allah.
According to your friend,Mr.Sina,rocks,stones are lifeless objects with no emotions whatsoever. Then for what fun do you need a lifeless stone-carved idol?
Well isn't that discriminatory on part of the So -Called allah to only allow Arab speakers the advantage of the 'true religion'?
Allah The Most Racist.
Well violence in any form is bad. Be it Muslims killing others or Muslims being killed. But the fact is that Muslims have taken revenge as well. Other than that Govt has punished the perpetrators. But you haven't said that.
Muslims and rationality?
Are you talking about the goings on in the moon?
Those who suffer inferiority complex are more aggressive. This is what we find among the Muslims. They are the one common denominator in violence throughout the world. I have to say about 97% of the violence on the planet earth can be attributed to some muslim involvement.
I do not suffer from such inferiority.
I am no scholar of English. I write and talk broken English. You are a British born and bred, a scholar and wise.
You know crow is considered to be wise. Yet it goes and put its beak in the dirt.
// Enlightened humantarian following Swami Sina. //
God forgive, but I am just an human trying to gain knowledge and understanding. I may not be even a kindergarten student compared to great men who have done great things. I hope you are many many notches above my level of understanding and can throw some light which will enlighten me more about the goodness and humanity of which Mohammad and Islam are not a part of.
Fortunately, I can say that Muhammad does not count among the great men, but is rather an evil figure and a bad influence for the whole humanity. The unfortunate part is that Muslims have not been able to see him through.
Even Hitler had 10 million followers.The numbers don't tell the story.
Most of those 1.5 billion don't know Arabic and depend on local Imams for their Islamic knowledge.A look at the Quran is enough to discard it for the filth in it.Most muslim states have strong laws for apostasy or even public criticism of Islam.If people had the right to voice,we'd have known the exact number.
And if you decide to go by numbers,Christianity has more followers,but it talks about a God completely different-who could take birth as a human who walked on earth.Hinduism and Buddhism also have close to 1 billion followers each,and their Gods(or no Gods in case of Buddhism) are also completely different.They are dramatically different philosophies with huge number of followers each,and they can't all be accurate.So probably you can do a rethink on the "validity based on numbers" hypothesis.
As for Tony Blair's sister-in-law,that's a completely political move.Religion is a personal space,and there is no reason to publicize one's faith if it's just about spirituality.But if you are related to Tony Blair,a staunch Catholic,then
what's better for publicity than to be associated with a symbol completely at-odds to him?Then again she converted after visiting a Shia shrine,who aren't even considered muslims by Sunnis-the major sect of muslims.Another aspect is,she can afford to do what she did as she lives in Britain-where she won't be killed for her faith.Imagine Ahmadinejad's niece converting.She probably won't live to see the next day.
"It is clear that you are as big a liar as any other Muslims posting stuff here. "
This is why you are a hatemonger. Like Sina, to you all Muslims are automatically liars.
You have no right to interfere law of another country which is approved by their society. Individualism doesn't serve interest of society.
'Adultery is NOT a crime" That describe what is morality of your society.
So all the blame is on Burma and Buddhists, is that what you are telling me? The Bangladesh govt. sent them back to Burma, even though the refugees claimed they will be killed. No one says a word against Bangladesh! Why is it that it is never Muslims' fault??
Secondly, it was said again and again in the video western observers that "facts are hard to come by", "very difficult to get a accurate picture of what is going on", "much of the testimony we heard, we were unable to verify it", etc etc. So why should anyone blindly believe everything in the video?
I do read the news, ok, so don't play games with me. The whole trouble in Burma started because some Muslims raped and killed a rakhine woman. Then the rakhine men took revenge by killing some rohingya Muslims in a bus. Now both parties wanted tit for tat. The fact that rohingyas fought hard against rakhine shows they are not weak or suppressed in Burma, as Muslims want us to believe.
Secondly, this video is a propaganda piece. They mixed pictures from all over and have made it look like Muslims are suffering in large numbers. It is clear that you are as big a liar as any other Muslims posting stuff here.
even more, just google what is happening, Burma and read for yourself. does this mean budha encourages these things?? I Hate killings, you love division and hatemongering just like your jihad brothers[youtube -X_Y1PL-eTA&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X_Y1PL-eTA&feature=related youtube]
"he preached the same message of monotheism to his people,who were at that time indulged in idolatory …….."
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What's wrong with idolatory??
'Idolatory' definition according to wikipedia: "Idolatry is a pejorative term for the worship of an idol, a physical object "
QurratAlAyn,
It is nice to see you at FFI, but I am afraid that you are late to the party. Whatever you said in your post, I first heard it ten years ago, and I have done a lot of studying and research since then.
BTW, do you know what Hadith and Sira are (not to be confused with 'sura')??
What about this, your hatemongering is finally paying off right? atleaset muslims are also being killed, That is what Ali sina wanted, He is got! am sure he is happy now![youtube Fl–GVdFMCw&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl–GVdFMCw&feature=related youtube]
Adultery is NOT a crime. It is a break of trust between husband and wife, or boyfriend/ girlfriend, but it is not a crime. So what is the penalty (to the offending party) for this break of trust?…. It varies. It could be anything from an apology, or going to couple-counselors or even a divorce, depending on many things.
But to flog someone for adultery is outrageous, no better than what that policewoman is doing to the guy. To stone someone for adultery, or to otherwise kill the offending party, is downright EVIL.
In that context…… you might want to do some research on what Islam considers to be adultery and what it doesn't. If you are any better than Muhammad, you will be appalled!
Adultery is a personal issue between the man and his wife…
why should any one else interfere?
The Quran says so, not me.
"Yet those who read news coming from the West – ………….. Why so much trouble in paradise?"
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Apparently, you think I am dumb, and will fall for Tu quoque tricks.
But since you started the game anyway… here is the response…-
The Gurdwara shooter was a neo-nazi; he subscribed to the ideology called Nazism, which is an evil ideology. Those terrorists in Mali, who cut the thief's hand, also subscribe to an evil ideology- Islam.
Lesson learnt: When you subscribe to evil ideologies, you end up doing evil things, like shooting someone just because they are a different race, or cutting people's hands.
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The movie-theatre gunman, was crazy. It doesn't seem that he subscribed to any ideology. There is nothing in the environment that he grew up in, that condones his actions. He was alone and no one supported him with what he did at the theatre. In other words, he did whatever he did, despite the environment that he lived in, NOT because of it. When Muslims do evil things however, they do it because of the [Islamic] environment that they live in.
So both the examples that you provided… only add to the claims AGAINST Islam.
If I put the Adhan as an example by mistake, and then I gave example of an actual prayer (to Allah), then all it means is that …..
that both the Adhan, and lots of Muslim prayers, involve Muhammad in there!
That will no peace as long Islam exist ! To destroy Islam we must destroy Makkah first because Makkah is the root of terrorist and evil. Everyday Muslim pray same direction to Makkah if Makkah destroy than they will know Allah is powerless to protect oneself ! So Muslim will not believe Islam again ! Than world will be peace.
he he…. this is the first time ever I have come across this trick. Post the link and the comment that says EXACTLY what I originally said, and still call me a liar. he he… what are you hoping? That no one will bother to look closely?
Here is what I wrote-
"Let's say you decide that in order to pray to Allah, you don't need to involve Muhammad in there; Are you free to leave him out of your prayers? "
And yet you accused me thus:
"You were imagining that Muslims pray to Prophet Muhammad…."
…….so who's the liar??
Why,what's so absurd about ants talking? How do you know ants don't talk,have you lived with them?
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The Qur'an is the last and final revelation of God Almighty. That God Almighty Who feeds you every single day. The Qur'an and the authentic narrations of Prophet Muhammad contain every single instruction for you and I,for the entire mankind till the Day of Judgement.
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) preached what every Prophet preached – Submission to the One True God,willful submission which in Arabic is 'Islam'.
So how does he become the 'founder' of Islam?
Counter question : You think there was no Muslim before Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him)? Who did Jesus,Moses,Abraham (Alaihimussalam) worship?
Sigh. I have to tell you the basics.
Islam is the (only) religion of the One True God.
This religion,this way of life exists since Adam (peace be upon him),the first man on this earth. He was also the first prophet of God and preached the message of monothesim. Over time God sent messengers to different nations as they kept deviating from the right path.Every single messenger of God preached the same message – of monotheism. Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) was the last and final messenger and he preached the same message of monotheism to his people,who were at that time indulged in idolatory and other heinous activities,far deviated from the right path.
"If he cannot attract enough donations to keep his website running, then what does that tell you about his views and mission. In business terms, it is classed as a failure and must be restructured or put by the wayside and forgotten. Any business that incurs loss after loss per month and cannot yield a profit makes no sense in monetary terms."
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Hmm… Now I understand how kaaba has kept its doors open for so long. Muhammad clearly came up with an excellent business model; simple, yet effective-
Muhammad's Business Model
You nailed it right on the head, LL! Two thumbs up!
"Get your facts right. Muhammad (peace be upon him) was not the founder of Islam"
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Well, then WHO was the founder of Islam??
You maybe right.
Actually those of us here who try to discredit Ali Sina are right.
Why should we trust Sina? No one knows who he is. What he looks like, where he lives, or if he's even a real person, no one knows. I don't.
Yeah sure, I don't trust Ali Sina either.
So why do I pay attention to him? Why do I visit this site?
Because I think what he's saying, that Islam is bad, Quran is a crazy book, Muhammad's a very bad human, and Islam's making the world bad, all of these are true.
No I don't trust Ali Sina. But in this case he is right.
What's the point of trying to discredit him anyway?
Try to discredit his message! That's what matters. Prove him wrong. Show him and show us all that Islam is actually good, that Quran is actually an excellent book, that Islam is making the world a better place, and that Muhammad's a good man who is worth following.
You don't trust Ali Sina? I agree, I don't either.
But what he's saying makes sense to me, and that's good enough.
What about Islam then? Well I'm waiting, please show me that Islam actually makes sense, I sincerely want to be shown this. Please.
"but ours revolve around the One True God, who is still keeping the retards like you alive and is feeding and clothing you despite your hatred and denial of Him"
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No one in this world is so stupid that they would deny the One True God, despite knowing for sure that He exists. Neither am I. If the people deny this God, it is because despite trying hard, they don't see anything to make sure that this God exists.
BTW, I am not against believing in God. But I have NO reason to believe that Muhammad was God's prophet, or that the Quran is God's book. I have every reason to believe otherwise regarding these two.
For example, if I go shopping for a TV, and the salesperson shows me a Panasonic that he claims is on a deep sale and available for 1/5th the price. But I notice that the name has been misspelled as Panosanic, the plastic cover isn't set right, the input jacks don't seem aligned. In such a case, I have every reason to believe that the TV is counterfeit, no matter how much the salesperson insists otherwise. I have every reason to DENY the authenticity of the TV, and I will be downright stupid if I buy it. It is the same thing with Islam! I have every reason to deny its claim of coming from a True God.
"If you check your records, you will see that I've only been posting and playing with you fools on here for a few days/weeks."
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Hmm…you know, I do believe you. This explains why you repeat the same things again and again in your posts, as if you never read responses to the previous posts. Tell you what! I am not going to respond to any of your posts now unless there is a new topic, or unless it appears that you did read previous responses.
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"not only do we watch the Olympics, but we can actually afford to watch them live in the stadium, which is what we have been doing ……."
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What good is it to be able to afford a stadium, when you can't even afford enough bravery NOT to fear threats of [fictitious] Hellfire.
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In shariah other faiths and religions are allowed to practice as long as it does not conflict with the law.
Constitution of Maldives says it is compulsory for citizen to be Muslim. Maldives is a 100% Muslim country but ruling is shariah as per constitution not that of classical shariah.
As irrational and insane as it may sound about Solomon talking to the ants or the sun setting in muddy waters or stars being thrown at jinns who eavesdrop, nothing and I mean nothing on this planet or this galaxy sounds as irrational, insane and damn right pathetic as you who claims to have come onto this earth from nothing, will go away with nothing, nothing will happen to you, nothing has created you and nothing is maintaining this vast universe, so come everybody, let's believe in nothing.
I would much rather believe someone can actually talk to ants, then someone who made themselves out of nothing and when pressed for something is offering nothing!
A little bit of something, is better than a lot of nothing.
So you have the sound, sane and rational mind?
Is the claim that ants talked to Solomon sound, sane and rational?
What about the sun setting in a muddy spring or the stars being thrown at the jinns who eavesdrop to the conversation of gods?
It is not nonsense. This is what happened to me. I was among those close minded people who did not want to read any book written against Islam. It was the Quran that opened my mind. A lot of people who read this book come to find the truth. It is like unmasking the ugly face of Muhammad. I can say with certainly that 99% of Muslim have not read the Quran, except a few passages of it. Yes they all chant it for thawab, but don't read this book to see what it says. I doubt you have read it either.
Your last sentence: ".(Islamic countries do have citizens of other religions this is not shariah)
But Maldive is a 100% Muslim country.
Very nice….this reminded me of a priest who was walking in the
wilderness in a cold snowy day, and he saw an injured man laying
in the snow. When he approached to help him, he recognized him
to be the devil……then he told him: I will not help you, I will leave you
to die, you are the devil. The devil called him and said: you better
come back and help me to live, because if I die how are you going
to make a living.
Exactly which part of the English language don't you understand Raju?
Where did you get your humanity from? And what is your guidance and measuring yardstick?
If you have trouble answering would you like me to start stereotyping and go from there?
And what's with the name change? Raj not good enough or you pretending to be another enlightened humanitarian following Swami Sina just to make up the numbers on here?
My humanity comes from Islam? And yours?
It's called Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Choice and Freedom of Movement where we come from knowTheEnemy.
Secondly, not only do we watch the Olympics, but we can actually afford to watch them live in the stadium, which is what we have been doing whilst you guys have been festering to come up with logical solutions to you downfall bull@@@@ ideology.
If you check your records, you will see that I've only been posting and playing with you fools on here for a few days/weeks. A few more days/weeks and when I'm bored, I'll decide to opt out and travel somewhere to enjoy another summer break.
Your lives revolve around FFI and Swami Guru Ali Sina Nanak Dev the Prophet, but ours revolve around the One True God, who is still keeping the retards like you alive and is feeding and clothing you despite your hatred and denial of Him.
By the way, Bolt was amazing when he won the 200 yesterday evening. Did you get to watch it or did the electric go for the daily load shedding in the village?
qurratalayn,sorry, I meant the earlier version of "Understanding Mohammad" written by Ali Sina.
Yes Ali open your eyes gently – you will find the darkness that is Islam all gone. Embrace humanity.
Not another troll…but another Raju Babu!
Isn't it time to watch the bollywood flick in the local Thakur's front yard accompanied with the whole village, Raju?
You are the one who wants to take us blinded brainwashed Muslims out of bondage from the evil cult (Islam) Raju? Is this not the case?
So like I asked earlier, where did you get this humanity that you subscribe to and what is the guidance and measuring yardstick for this humanity?
lol You are diagnosed with inferiority complex regarding Muslims. More you are abusing only reflect your frustration and inability to cope it up rationally.
I personally neglect stupid enemies.
Another troll. . .
"This question of yours has been answered before. You read the answer but don't let it get in your head….. because YOU KNOW that unlike your blowhards, the answer actually makes sense! "
Your stock answer . . . just to confirm or deny something. But that doesn't make an iota of difference.
When it comes to discussing an issue – you are as elusive as your master Sina.
You are right. I am sorry but I am very much allergic to the stink that emanates from the Muslim rectal mess left by Mohammad. That unbearable stink has led me to react in this manner.
I am wondering how you can put up with this mass of diarrhoea of Mo. Are you immune? I know you are one of them. But still, try to get some fresh air. I think you need counselling more than me.
"They know FFI is a serious threat to Islam, and are trying whatever they can to stop Dr. Sina. "
What by commenting? Ha ha ha ha . . . talk about BS and then talk about BS. And then there are hardly 10 regulars. . .
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What is that you think Sina has got? Nothing.
As far as actual issues go – you ain't able to talk about single thing. For example your constant lying about this "Flat Earth".
You have not explored Islamic consciousness lol
Give me an example how Islam reduce intelligence ! Please avoid opinion as you have already ranting about Muslims.
You are right.
"What makes it different this time that it couldn't be done in 1400 years?"
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This question of yours has been answered before. You read the answer but don't let it get in your head….. because YOU KNOW that unlike your blowhards, the answer actually makes sense!
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"I'm in a win-win situation no matter which way you look at it. "
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No you are not! This too has been answered before. What if Jesus-the-son-of-God is the true God?? You will end up in Hell.
"The only one lying is you. I had written about not involving Muhammad in prayers to Allah. If you have a bad memory and want proof, I can post the link. "
Which lie . . you once before accused me . . . but couldn't back it up. And why didn't you post the link?
" I had written about not involving Muhammad in prayers to Allah."
No you haven't.
http://alisina.org/the-place-of-women-in-islam/#I…
"Let's say you decide that in order to pray to Allah, you don't need to involve Muhammad in there; Are you free to leave him out of your prayers? "
I answered:
In order to pray to Allah . . . Muslims don't involve Prophet Muhammad.
And your first answer was. . .
Yes, they do. Here is an example-
"ASH-HADU ANLA ELAHA ILLA-ALLAH WA ASH-HADU ANNA MOHAMMADAN RASUL-ALLAH"
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Yet Adhan isn't "A Muslim Prayer"!
Now you are claiming:
"The only one lying is you. I had written about not involving Muhammad in prayers to Allah."
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Hence – two lies?
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Yet those who read news coming from the West –
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northam…
Aren't these type – quite common in USA? Didn't a PhD kill many
http://wvgazette.com/News/201207200195
Why so much trouble in paradise?
Islam is just the opposite of humanity. So learning about humanity was not difficult. Whatever (evil) is carried out in the name of Islam goes against humanity.
Ali, I am not a learned scholar like you to judge or know someone like a book – hope you will be lenient with me and my inadequate answers.
"the power of one – do not underestimate it my dear ali"
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He isn't underestimating Ali Sina. Why else do you think him and all those other Muslims spend so much time on this website? They know FFI is a serious threat to Islam, and are trying whatever they can to stop Dr. Sina. If they didn't feel FFI's threat, they will be watching Olympics or something.
You forget. Ambedkar took them to Buddhism.
I see that history repeats. The Hindus have grown wiser and are removing the evil.
Arab Muslims too treat the Muslims from South Asia and South East Asia as beggar servants. Nothing about brotherhood in their treatment.
For Mohammad, real Muslim meant the Arabs – more real the Quresh and more real his own family of himself, Fatima, Ali and their children. Even Aisha, Hafsa, etc were not counted by Mohammad among his 'true family'.
Now a days we have enough counseling available to manage frustrations. Please try one of those and avoid abuse !
Exactly what I suspected Raj. Humanity.
I know your types like a book.
Exactly where did you get this humanity and what is your guidance and measuring yardstick?
"You were imagining that Muslims pray to Prophet Muhammad – but what you put as evidence turned out to be false. . . rather than accepting your mistakes. You just move on to post more lies."
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The only one lying is you. I had written about not involving Muhammad in prayers to Allah. If you have a bad memory and want proof, I can post the link.
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And regarding what I said about Sharia, those who read the news coming out of Muslim majority countries, and Muslim populations in the west, can figure out for themselves who is lying. Here is the latest news from Islam, and it happens to be regarding Sharia-
Islamists cut off thief's hand in northern Mali
On more for the ranters. . . didn't we the Muslims clean up India – the mess it was in. "The untouchables" . . . why is it that they queued to become Muslim? Rather than the way they were treated in Hinduism?
So what punishment you prescribe for adultery according to punishment befitting the crime and who decide punishment befitting the crime !
BTW why women beat hindu and sikh men sounds interesting !
Ali boy it is HUMANITY.
The rectal mess left by Mohammad are the Muslims.
You concocted a few lies – then: "You are a dumbhead for not understanding things. "
The things is where has all that understanding go? Why couldn't you defend Sina's nobility?
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"Right now, he is devoting his time for humanity so that fools like you will one day see the light and come out from your dark tunnel. "
No he isn't – he is venting his hatred. . . and fellow hatemonger like you flock to it. I mean come on . . . you hardly the brainiest Hindu about are you?
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"If you have heard about opportunity cost in economics. Forget it, you people are only opportunists. "
What the hell does this this BS mean?
"Same thing here! The policewoman is abusing her power. She is not authorized to 'punish' and herself needs to be taken to task for this. There is no point putting this video when we are talking about 'punishment befitting the crime'."
When it comes to your own . . . you move the goal posts. . . how about this "news story".
http://www.hrw.org/news/2009/07/29/india-overhaul…
"The Islamic law (Sharia) is accepted by its followers to mete out punishments. Therefore we CAN take Sharia to task."
Where? That is just like every single other lie you have told about Islam. And they all end up
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You were imagining that Muslims pray to Prophet Muhammad – but what you put as evidence turned out to be false. . . rather than accepting your mistakes. You just move on to post more lies.
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This is what you have done with the flat earth lie. And you continue to do it. There is only one reason . . . that you are steeped in Hate. Extremist Sikh. . . . I know things were bad among Sikhs where hate is concerned. But add stupidity to the mix. . . .
I told you I will turn it up.
I am Muslim and subscribe to Islam by choice.
What about you Raju? What do you subscribe to? Specifics please.
Same thing here! The policewoman is abusing her power. She is not authorized to 'punish' and herself needs to be taken to task for this. There is no point putting this video when we are talking about 'punishment befitting the crime'.
I don't understand how this video fits in the context of "punishment befitting crime", because the police is not even supposed to mete out any punishments, according to the laws of India. The job of police is to present the suspects to the judge, and it is only the judge who can declare punishments. If you had posted information about some judge who meted out a harsh crime, only then you are on the topic.
These policemen abused their power and did something illegal, and action was taken against them.
The Islamic law (Sharia) is accepted by its followers to mete out punishments. Therefore we CAN take Sharia to task. There is no comparison between Sharia punishing someone, and Indian police giving abusing their powers.
You know about the tiny cancer cells and how much dangerous they are?
Do you know if you are infected with just one HIV what will happen to you?
Yes, cancer and cancerous cells and tumors and virus have more strength These virii or these cancerous cells multiply fast and a lot – they have the strength to infect dangerously fast. It is this dangerous cancer that we are fighting. This dangerous cancer is Islam.
I admit it. To fight this cancer, is a big big effort.
Islam is like cancer. Islam is like a deadly HIV virus.
These virii act like parasites They feed on us and go against us. Islam is just like that.
We know what we are against, and we are more determined to fight this cancerous ideology called Islam.
You may quote from some source that Islam is growing. We see that the cancer is multiplying.
You have not yet realized the full consequences of the parasite that you are hosting.
You spoke like a true scholar and free thinker Ali Sina!
So what should we expect from the likes of your student and fan favourite Raja?
I must admit, your responses are getting better and better and are really starting to make my day. A few more pressure point facts in your face and you'll come into the public.
Of course it is Raju. That is why it is the fastest growing religion in the world and has the likes of you a quaking in your boots. Like I have already pointed out, it has grown 700% since 1900 from 200 million to 1.57 Billion. Furthermore, it has grown by over 25% in Canada alone since 1989 and your Guru started his crusade in 1994, when he ran away from Iran (so he says). Exactly what does that tell you?
Otherwise why would you be shouting from the treetops for Muslims to leave in their droves and come to stupidity and nothing which you adhere to?
Exactly what have you dissected on the information I gave you?
Your responses are playground replies and indoctrined bull@@@@ from Swami Guru Ali Sina Nanak Dev. Get to the facts, because now I am going to turn the heat up a few notches for you.
Are you ready?
Yes I did.
Your strategies are not going to work on any sound,sane and rational mind.
You're wasting your time,take my word.
Mohammad had such a big diarrhoea and the stink and mess that it has created 1400 years back – requires some effort and some time. The mess created by Mohammad is the present day UMMAH OF MOHAMMAD.
You too are invited to join in cleaning up the rectal mess left by Mohammad.
Me too Ali. I am responding to you – so that you get some sense in your nonsense filled head.
Islam is all nonsense.
Be it, by your own admission then . . . sewage worker.
"Have you read the Quran?
If you read it you will not defend it. "
Where have you "logical fallacies" gone now eh, Sina? . . . When you come out with nonsense like this.
Have you read the Quran?
If you read it you will not defend it.
The only people with reduced intelligence are Muslims who believe in this balderdash.
you have no idea what you're talking about.ou
posts don't*
I didn't know Mr.Sina preaches humanity.
His posts a don't suggest this either.
nobility? Yeah right.
Have you ever read the Qur'an? On what grounds can you say what Mr.Sina is claiming is correct?
Pls,if you really want to know Islam,go straight to its source – the Qur'an.
Don't pick up random posts here and there and claim that you have understood this religion.
how have you read the book when the author says its not for sale yet?
Get your facts right. Muhammad (peace be upon him) was not the founder of Islam.
“So you agree, that your Swami Guru Ali Sina Nanak Dev does all his Truth finding in the toilet?”
At least you are right once. Islam is even filthier than inside the toilet bowl. Digging into the Quran and hadith gives one the same sensation of digging into the toilet. Fighting Islam is like working on a clogged toilet. It it dirty job but someone must do it.
glad to know you have decided to use your intellect to decide 🙂 Go ahead,read the Qur'an and see for yourself. Mr.Sina's 'anti-Islam' material is not a source to get the information on Islam.
Of course it will Raju, of course it will.
What makes it different this time that it couldn't be done in 1400 years? I'll tell you. The Incredible Hulk. That's it, you've got the Incredible Hulk on your side and he's on a rampage. Honestly, he's real and he is on your side.
With Humanity such as yours and Swami Guru Ali Sina Nanak Dev's which started and is confirmed on a toilet seat, I'll stick to Islam.
Like I said in many a post, I will take my chances with Islam hands down. I'm in a win-win situation no matter which way you look at it.
I suggest you join whatever you want and stick to it.
Clutching at straws are we Raju?
I'm only dissecting your views, comments and ideologies.
Don't hate, appreciate!
The truth of Islam is found in the toilet my dear Ali. If you cannot understand this sentence, it means you are a Muslim.
the power of one – do not underestimate it my dear ali. That power will suddenly burst like a cloud and make a drop seem like an ocean. Islam's days are numbered. Start counting them.
It will be pleasant for you to start the backcount when you join humanity. You are invited to abandon Islam and join humanity.
And what would you be doing Raju?
If this damnshit called Islam had not been here – Ali Sina would be enjoying his life like a soldier who in peace time.
Right now, he is devoting his time for humanity so that fools like you will one day see the light and come out from your dark tunnel.
If you have heard about opportunity cost in economics. Forget it, you people are only opportunists.
If I write a Lie, you can grab my color on last day of judgement. I read this in past so said.
You mean like the flood that has been occurring since 1994, when Swami Guru Ali Sina Dev took up his crusade?
Of course it will. We have to judge it by experience don't we?
So within the next 20 years, we will see 5 people leave Islam and see hundreds of millions accept Islam, which in your books is called the extinction of Islam.
God help you if you ever was a Maths teacher!
This is exactly what I expected of you Raju. Why do you guys make it so easy for us?
At least now you can come off the 'we just want Muslims to leave Islam for their own good' bandwagon and come clean with your hatred. Or are you also someone pretending to be someone else, living somewhere else, doing something else, saying something else and meaning something else?
So you agree, that your Swami Guru Ali Sina Nanak Dev does all his Truth finding in the toilet?
Which in turn means, you follow an ideology that is founded in the toilet?
Which as you guessed it right………………… means, everything you say is utter sh@@.
Run along now.
Next!
Are you for real Raju?
This dude has been fleecing and fooling you and your buddies for years under the pretence of Truth, Reason and Logic. As small as it may be, he is still fleecing you guys.
If he cannot attract enough donations to keep his website running, then what does that tell you about his views and mission. In business terms, it is classed as a failure and must be restructured or put by the wayside and forgotten. Any business that incurs loss after loss per month and cannot yield a profit makes no sense in monetary terms. And we all know Ali Sina is in it for the money. Why else did he leave his great nation of Iran and run to Canada?
There are hundreds of thousands if not millions of wealthy potential donors that can keep this website running for hundreds of years with one lump sum donation, or there are potentially billions of anti Muslim non believers (kafirs like you) that can give even say 1 cent as a donation and this website will be covered for over a hundred years. Why is it not happening?
All he is getting is £300 dollars per month according to his own admission. And judging by the people who follow him, that is about 20 people in total. (and I am being kind here)!, they are giving him $15 dollars per month on average. Having begged and pleaded since 1994, with no luck, he is now a@@ kissing the extreme right Christian fanatics for some money. As a matter of fact he is also starting to believe in Jesus and is plugging him at very turn just to appease the Robert Spencer's so they throw a bone at him. Damn good noble Atheist here, don't you think?
As a matter of fact, have you ever met Ali Sina? You seem to be singing his praises as though he comes to yours every week for Sunday dinner!
"Just see the nobility in Ali Sina's heart – from his own pockets he is meeting the expenses of maintaining this site so that the Muslims can open their eyes and leave Islam and join humanity. "
He he he – ha ha ha – excuses excuses. . . expense of maintaining this site. . . what expenses?
Nobility? What about the amount of lying . . . re-hashed Christian BS.
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"Ali Sina is not flush with petro dollars."
Well he is tapping up Spencer – there is big money there.
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" But his heart is big enough to give away a book which costs around 15$ at free of cost.
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Not it doesn't – It cost is about $0 – he is giving out PDFs.
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"He has to dip into his pocket to pay for that book. I hope you can understand – that he is losing revenue and still serving humanity. "
No he isn't – Them PDFs don't cost a penny.
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"You are a dumbhead for not understanding things. "
As it turns out . . . well – I'll leave it unsaid.
Kavya, I have read his book which fully explains the evils of Mohammad,the founder of Islam.
In the mean time you can read this letter, which I found at "Islam Watch"
http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/63-letters/961…
Just see the nobility in Ali Sina's heart – from his own pockets he is meeting the expenses of maintaining this site so that the Muslims can open their eyes and leave Islam and join humanity.
Ali Sina is not flush with petro dollars. But his heart is big enough to give away a book which costs around 15$ at free of cost. He has to dip into his pocket to pay for that book. I hope you can understand – that he is losing revenue and still serving humanity.
You are a dumbhead for not understanding things.
"He may have meant his new edition. The previous editions may have gone out of print – exhausted at the book shops. "
Ha ha . . . what bookshops? I doubt he has sold more than few thousands . . . that is why he is SO willing to give it away.
He may have meant his new edition. The previous editions may have gone out of print – exhausted at the book shops.
Rainbow is a Muzzie.
from a trickle to a flood – do not be surprised if that happens.
Quran, no doubt, some people are using as a toilet paper. So you know better. All thinking about Islam should be done only in the toilet. Islam should not come out of the toilet.
"Islam is really a stupid religion. One must be really a brain dead person to believe in this patent lie willfully. Born Muslims have no fault because they were brainwashed, but how can any sane person fall for Islam? "
Is that why you rely on the bullshit from Christians and rely on that as evidence? Why "brains" have you been displaying there?
If such ramblings are the best you can come up with . . .
?
"But be careful about the translations. They all have softened it. "
Yet when Muslims point out – learn Arabic – you still bleat. Why is it that you didn't bother to learn it and rely on Translations.
What qualifications have you got to make this claim: "They all have softened it."
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Oh you read Christian Propaganda . . . . and swallowed it – when you get challenged you either ignore – or resort to lying. As you have one. All your hatred comes out. . .
Or figment of Sina's imagination. . .and later this person will come back and claim Islam as evil.
You are right ! Women are emotionally driven while men are driven by desires. We have different sets of minds men are good in information processing and women are good in networking of processing, reason we find women more multi-tasking but less accuracy of information.
Another interpretation say "reduced intelligence" instead "deficient in intelligence"
Of course it won't. It has only survived 1400 years, but you prophesise it's demise in 20 years.
Change your name to Nostradamus and don't hold your breath!
He dreams them up whilst sitting on the toilet?
The usual failproof method he uses no doubt!
'My book is not available for SALE yet…….'
Will a leopard ever change it's spots?
Way to go Ali Sina. Way to go!
Islam seems to be doing pretty fine to me Mr Sina?
It's growing year in and year out despite your futile attempts and it's also putting food on the table for you and paying your bills. If it wasn't for Islam, how else would you earn your crumbs using hate mongering and Islamaphobia?
Have you never heard the saying 'don't bite the hand that feeds'?
I suggest you look up it's meaning, understand it and practice it.
Shariah law always includes God. But shariah is not implemented as being Islamic republic but as presidential republic in Maldives. Naseem is clearly stating law of shariah which is approved by constitution of his country.
Lets say constitution of country say this is law of God so no one can argue law of God. If it say its not mandatory of four witness so it is not if crime is proved. If it say citizen must be Muslim so it is.(Islamic countries do have citizens of other religions this is not shariah)
Kavya is yet another Muslim. This is my personal opinion.
So is Rainbow.
That's they way to do it, Kavya, ……….
have faith and trust yourself only !
How do you know that they have softened the translation?
Do you read and understand Arabic?
If they softened the translation, I guess, you too have hardened
the translation in your book.
Flogging in India ! Who has right to give punishment
[youtube hXF-7oloSxE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXF-7oloSxE youtube]
Punishment befitting the crime ??
[youtube YhXUbdQOP5o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhXUbdQOP5o youtube]
I don't know location I pointed out guy is sikh like you lol
Sorry, this does not make any sense. Did you read my
reply carefully? Do they go by the Islamic Sharia or not?
Do they follow the Quran or not? If not……then why did
Naseem said we cannot argue with God ?
What if girl was more beautiful than his wife? lol you would say he deserve her !
Why a book? I can say that in three words: “side with goodness.”
My book is ot available for sale yet. But if you read it you will no longer have any doubt that Islam is evil. The Quran cab be read online fore free. But be careful about the translations. They all have softened it.
Constitution is consider as sovereignty of the nation. Maldives is not Islamic republic but a presidential republic and have shariah, the basic law code of Maldives conforming to Maldivian conditions by the president.
Screen play of your link is pathetic
Maria al-Qibtiyya was an Egyptian Coptic Christian slave who was sent as a gift from Muqawqis, the ruler of Alexandria. She was married to prophet(pbuh) and she never remarried after the death of the Prophet.
I thought they go by the Quranic law, not by their constitution….
Naseem said: No one can argue with God. Did he mean
another God? not the Islamic God?
I watched the video and there are a couple of things that I have to say-
1) The soldier was publicly humiliated, and according to the report, was taken to task by his officers.
2) The fellow soldier apologized to the girl on the guilty guy's behalf.
3) This video is proof of Muslims lying. The incident happened in Assam, not Kashmir. Assam is in a completely different corner of India. The guy who posted the video, Mr Azhar Zahid, deliberately mentioned the incident happening in Kashmir, to decieve people into believing that Indian soldiers molest Kashmiri women. He didn't care about the woman. He only cared about how to use this incident for his Kashmir propaganda.
and the most important thing –
4) The video is proof that in India, you can't get away that easy by molesting women, even if you are a soldier.
Four good Muslims who witness penetration ! Thing must be wild on beach to be punishable !!!
Maldives is republic and have constitution( supreme law), this end the story.
Here is the story of Ismail ‘Hilath’ Rasheed, the Maldivian who has almost been slaughtered by Muslims for unorthodoxy, to which the letter is referring: http://minivannews.com/society/slashed-journalist…
“Then I heard someone call me by name from behind, and two more entered the alley. As I was turning the guy in a yellow T-shirt came up beside me, grabbed me from behind, put a mid-size box cutter to my neck and started slashing.
“I put my hand up to try and stop him, but he kept slashing.”
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Games-Mus…
"Flogging an innocent should shake human rights not flogging the culprit. "
Have you ever heard the phrase "Punishment befitting the crime" ??
OMG ! I give up !
In most cases (99%) flogging shakes human rights, because
as I said earlier they flog the accused without a proof which
is the four witnesses.
Look what you Sikh bro is doing in Kashmir ! Is that Sikhism about?
[youtube dGB_sTff0gU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGB_sTff0gU youtube]
Our actions are justified on how we consider sinner as a victim or culprit. Flogging an innocent should shake human rights not flogging the culprit.
Try to learn classical Arabic, to understand the Holy Kuran.
You said in your previous post "If one is married to a beautiful princess, he will desire her plain maid, even if it for one night only"
My response was in that context…. married man….maid…. I don't see anything wrong with how my response didn't fit.
Your stupidity is beyond imagination.
Hafsa was not beautiful……….her maid Maria was beautiful.
Obviously I was not referring to those people, because
what I said does not apply to that case.
Got that now……pumpkin-head ?
Are you indirectly referring to the great Prophet of Islam –
A short story of Muhammad, one of his wives Hafsa, and Hafsa's maid
Great! It is always a good idea to check things out yourself. btw while you are waiting for the books, you might want to check out the following comics link. Please do not laugh it off just because it is a comic, because everything is backed by reliable Islamic sources –
http://prophetmuhammadillustrated.com/comic-strip…
http://prophetmuhammadillustrated.com/
Thanks for your reply, Mr.Sina, however you haven't convinced me Islam is evil.
I just ordered an english translation of the Quran and even your book, Understanding Muhammad and Muslims. I shall decide for myself and let you know.
Cheers!
When will all those braindead zombies realized that we are living in the 21st century and all those Sharia laws are applicable only in the 7th century and no longer valid in this generation anymore? John 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. When will all these barbarians realize that we are not living in the desert like Mose's generation but Jesus's generation? Those Sharia laws were meant for those desert people because they are a bunch of hopelessly religious and rebellious fools. It is not applicable in this modern society.
Which Fiqh/Jurisprudence of Islam allows beating of in such cases, Hanbalis, Malikis, Hanafis, Shafis, Salafis ? These Hindus and Sikhs have an act of in India, which is partial to women. Often misused by ladies.
Don't tell me that you are not aware of the nature of men.
The majority of them are like that. If one is married to
a beautiful princess, he will desire her plain maid, even
if it for one night only.
It is easy for a mature, experienced person to say so and
comprehend it…..but the youth are not experienced, and
not very well informed. Even if they are very well informed,
they need to go through the actual experience. For example:
if you show a child a burning piece of charcoal and tell him:
don't touch it; it will burn you. the lesson might stay for a while
in his mind, but soon he will forget it, and he will touch the fire.
Now, he really learns, and will never forget.
Actually, this applies also for adults.
This is impossible ! Are you counting on the possibility that
the readers of this site are not informed so that you can
lie freely? I have never heard that sisters and brothers can
marry, not even in the most primitive societies……….
It happened in the beginning of the creation, and it also
happened seven thousands of years ago in ancient Egypt.
That man is so stupid. His wife is 100 times more beautiful than the girl he is having an affair with. He sure does not deserve her.
A person who willfully abandons reason is also guilty. Sometimes you trust people you should trust like your brother and he stabs you in the back. In that case you are not guilty because it is not foolish to trust one’s brother. But if you fall for the online scams of someone telling you he is going to deposit 20 million dollars in your account and asks for the information that allows him to withdraw money from your account then you are guilty of stupidity.
Islam is really a stupid religion. One must be really a brain dead person to believe in this patent lie willfully. Born Muslims have no fault because they were brainwashed, but how can any sane person fall for Islam?
"Is the heaven divided in seven layers?"
I believe that Copernicus (the Polish astronomer and mathmatician)
had the seven-layers universe theory also
AND FROM WORSE TO FRYING PAN. The ultimate goal of islam is to obliterate the indigenous way of life and replace it with Arabic supremacist culture of the 7th century.
Cool!
heheheheheheehehheee……….where do you find these videos?
"Muhammad said women are deficient in intelligence. So those who convert to Islam show he was right". I found this statement humorous……..but don't you think that the person who
believes is not the guilty one; it is the person who deceives.
I met a very beautiful English lady, she is married to a Muslim guy. She converted to Islam
and she practices it regularly. She seemed very convinced that this is the only truth.
Women are emotional by instinct, and when one of them is deeply in love, she trusts
her lover fully, and she will love everything that he loves.
The situation is deteriorating rapidly in almost all muslim countries while the rest of the world becomes more and more developed. Muslims are feeling the pressure of humanity and they are becoming more and more desperate to keep things as they have always been.
But this is just temporary. All revolutions start when the situation seems hopeless. When it can't get any worse people start seeing things clearly. They will realize that all their problems are in some way connected to Islam. They will look into their own religion and eventually learn the truth about it. Thanks to the fearless mr. Ali Sina, people will learn the truth about Islam much faster.
The path to enlightenment is never easy but for muslims it is incredibly hard. They must see through lies and deception, while surviving the wrath of brainwashed religious fanatics. The pressure from society is also immense. But once a muslim has learned the truth s/he can't go back. Human beings are like that. Lies can have big influence on us, but once they are revealed, they have no effect whatsoever. It is impossible to accept a lie once you have heard the truth.
Even Muhammad predicted Doomsday. However, Doomsday will not be the end of the world, it will be the end of Islam.
India have different ruling !
[youtube 5EDnLyos5Bc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EDnLyos5Bc youtube]
"Since you have bad memory let me post the short list of the errors again. "
Since you have even worse one . . . as I said – bring them all . But this isn't the place. You lose track – the space gets shorter.
See how you lie? Would you like me to point out the response – I did give.
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However . . . put verses next to them and I will answer. That is YOUR job and not mine.
Since you have bad memory let me post the short list of the errors again.
Are sperms generated in the backbone?
Does the sun sets in a muddy spring?
Are stars missiles that God throws at jinns who try to eavesdrop?
Is the heaven divided in seven layers?
Is the earth divided in seven layers?
Are the stars in the lower heaven?
Are mountains acting as pegs, so when we walk on earth is does not shake with us?
Does science agree that woman was created from the rib of man?
Is the universe created in six days or six periods of time?
Was the earth created before the sun and the skies?
Is the earth stretched like a bed?
There are hundreds more.
"There are hundreds of very asinine errors."
Such as . . . . like the musayoon business – the one you copied from Christians – without verifying what it said. You couldn't even read the verse . . . never mind understand what it said.
As you have done in other places. . . http://alisina.org/muhammads-flat-earth/
This person even gets his science wrong . . . lies about what is commentaries . Yet you have posted it up.
Is that what you call: "asinine error"
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"They are deceived and they don't have the wits to think more profoundly. "
Which profound thinking were you doing . . . when copying and pasting nonsense from YouTube or material from Christians?
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All your claims are pack of lies . . . gathered from the net.
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"They are deceived and they don't have the wits to think more profoundly. "
Ha ha ha
Kavya, I am giving you a live example of islamic deception here. How Islam lie and pretend to get new convert, Sanjay Dwivedi where they first claimed a Big lie that he was Ex shankrachraya which they took back after Dwarkapeeth filed a suite you can go through the link http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/India/Emb… Then later this guy become Grand son of N.D.Tiwari which was again a lie because N.D.Tiwari is a childless father his wife was died in 1993.Check the link for more………………….Why you people lie i do not understand??Is it allowed in Islam to lie for sake of conversion ?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narayan_Dutt_Tiwari
Azubillahmiansshaitaanirajeem, Bimillahirahmanharraheem.
If donkey wears the hide of lion, it remains donkey only. Many people take drugs, alcohol, do unprotected sex inspite of knowing about AIDS.
Islam cannot be followed by copying others like sheep. When Allah SWT wants a person surrender to Allah(i must not use term he or she for genderless God), Person starts to move at straight path. Sirattal Mustqeem. If a person is idolater, that's what Allah SWT. If believer/ Momin, will of Allah SWT.
No it wasn’t solely by force and threat. That was the primary way of its expansion. Islam also relies heavily on deception and lies to grow. Take the example of the claim that there are miracles in the Quran. There is none. There are hundreds of very asinine errors. But through deception Muslims have managed to fool themselves and other. A simple example of that is the claim that noor means reflected light. This is not true at all. Ask any Arab or check any dictionary and they will tell you it means light. Muhammad said the Moon is source of light. Zakir Naik says noor is reflected light. With this lie he has changed an error of the Quran into a miracle. Today the main force of the growth of Islam is deception. Of course coercion and force also exist. Where Muslims are the majority they deprive the minorities of their human rights so they are forced into accepting Islam.
Muhammad said women are deficient in intelligence. So those who convert to Islam show he was right. Stupid people are born every day. They are deceived and they don’t have the wits to think more profoundly.
Sister Kavya,I request you to watch this video by the former president of All India Group of Birla Temples,the grandson of ex-chief minister of UP,Acharya Sanjay Dwivedi (now Ahmed Pandit).Here he explains why he reverted to Islam,the true religion of God Almighty.[youtube Fcxy2bm4vDk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcxy2bm4vDk youtube]
If you have any questions on Islam,please feel free to ask me,your muslim sister.
Islam is NOT evil. Sister kavya,you don't need a 'wordpress blog' to teach you Islam. Read the Qur'an to know the truth. Go to http://www.quran.com. And if you want to know WHY are people reverting to Islam,know from THEIR mouths. Check out this video (this is only one example out of the thousands):
[youtube IYMKQKSV0bY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYMKQKSV0bY youtube]
Hi Mr.Sina! I'm a Hindu girl from India. I read many of your articles.
My question is, if Islam is so evil and false religion then how did it manage to become 2nd largest religion of the world? was it solely by force and threats? Also why are women converting to Islam? for example, Tony Blair's daughter-in-law
"but we all know the truth and that the Buddhists were butchered by the Islamic sword and the sea demon is just like a story from Quran."
Where in Maldives history did this happen?
[youtube YhmqOtulNYc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhmqOtulNYc youtube]
This has nothing to do with Islam !
Human rights activist watch this
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340207/I…
In North Africa perhaps, there was, a ruling by Islamic scholars that, if there are two fathers but same mother, then siblings can marry. Marriage in close relation causes concentration of genetical disorder endemic to the family and often children are born with some physical and mental problems.
Tenth Sikh Guru's related many texts of Sikhs have mentioned of Brother Sister marriage in Muslim Tribes. But rape or JinnahI Jabber is sin.
The point is Muslims in Islamic countries (Maldives, Egypt, Iraq…) always violate human rights and get away with it and they think they are doing the right thing when they're not.
This is a warning for Sophia to be extra careful. The Iraqi girl went to police after she was raped by her brother. The police handed her back to the parents who killed her. The girl was the "right" and everyone else was the "wrong" but somehow to some people this is understood backward.
You think it's a different story but it's all related.
Sophia should not trust anyone in her country no matter how right she thought she was because Muslims who enforce shariaa have lost the sense of right and wrong.
You can Google translate the link (it want translate it well but maybe enough to understand). You'll find that the ones who wrote the article are Arab Muslims and they're against what happened. So there is hope for Sophia and the Maldives but that's a long process.
As per Islamic teaching, Hazrat Adam AS and Ma Hawwa(Adem and Eve) use to give birth to twins. They were pair of boy and girl. Boy of Pair use to marry the girl born from the successive pair. Killing of Hazrat Habeel AS(Abel) by his brother Qabeel(Cane) is mentioned in Holy Kuran. But from other sources, reason of this is told to be a girl. Once you reach Kerala inform here. Then local VHP office address could be posted here by some Indian Hindu Members. Mr Raj and Sameep kindly put office address of VHP or RSS in Kerala. This could be done by using emails also with the help of Mr Sina, all the best.
This is completely a different story……it happened in Iraq, and we are talking here
about Maldives. Also, the link you provided is in Arabic,,,, How many people
here read Arabic ?
She was raped by her brother and then hounor killed by her parents.
http://www.ahraraliraq.com/index.php?page=article…
Raping a sister is not in Islam but killing this innocent girl is sure influenced by Islam.
I visited the first link…….but he was seeking asylum, and he was only 25 years
old. I did not read anywhere that Britain denied his request. Why would
a young man who has a hope for a new life commit suicide?
Yes, how true!
She can learn Malayalam and easily mix with the Keralites. She can easily get her identity made in India.
Lots of Maldivians are taking interest in properties in Kerala for the fear that their island nation may be prone to dangerous tsunamis.
Vijay wrote //Try to seek Asylum in India or Srilanka//
Come to India on a tourist visa and simply disappear. 😉
OK…..Ahmed Naseem said he doesn't want to discuss the flogging issue, and
no one can argue with God. Fine…….when they flog a woman accused of
extra-marital sex, do they have four witnesses? The UN Human Rights Chief
should have asked Naseem this question, because "God" said there must be
four witnesses who saw her having sex with another man.
It seems that Naseem read only half the rule.
Islam will not survive another 20 years !!!! brilliant
I wonder How Ali sina comes up with his stories! i earlier on read the story about the picture, I don't deny the fact that there is a possibility of the story being true but their a couple of things wrong with the whole issue.
The story above has a similar tone to the one i read, and i find it really funny. Ali Sina is this what you have resorted to?
Here is the link to the page http://thechroniclesofislam.blogspot.com/2011/11/…
Apostate Maldives atheist who felt persecuted ‘hangs himself’ http://formermuslimsunited.org/apostate-maldives-…
Zakir Naik wants Muslim Maldivians to kill Non Muslim Maldivians http://eighteenmaldives.blogspot.in/2010/05/zakir…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sN3u_SLZ9E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGQoDFre5nk&fe…
// Apostasy is considered a grave sin under Islam, although scholarly opinion varies as to its punishment: in response to Nazim’s question, Dr Naik clarifed that the penalty was only death “if the person becomes a non-Muslim and propagates his faith and speaks against Islam. Just because a person who is a Muslim becomes a non-Muslim, death penalty is not the ruling.” // http://minivannews.com/politics/apostate-publicly…
When you can't beat them, either join them or leave them.
You can't beat them, and you don't want to join them,
One choice is left for you, leave……in a High Speed !
Try to seek Asylum in India or Srilanka