Is Islam for All Mankind? Not According to the Quran
Muslims are tirelessly promoting Islam and claim that soon it will dominate the world. In doing so, they go against the Quran. Therefore, it is fair to say they are kafir.
The Quran 10:47 says,
And for every people there is a Messenger.
And 14: 4 says,
And WE have not sent any Messenger except with revelation in the language of his people in order that he might make things clear to them.
If these verses are true, then Islam is not for non-Arabs. The Quran attests that every people have received their divine message in their own language so they can understand it and the Quran is for Arabs.
This concept is so important that it is repeated numerous times.
Q. 16:36.
And WE did raise among every people a Messenger
Q. 5:48
For each of you WE prescribed a clear spiritual Law and a manifest way in secular matters
Q. 32:3
It [the Quran] is the truth from your Lord; that you [Muhammad] may warn a people to whom no Warner has come before you, that they may be guided.
Q. 36.6
[This is a revelation] That thou mayest warn a people whose fathers were not warned, and so they are heedless.
These verses leave no room for misunderstanding. Allah is saying that every people has had their own messenger who warned them in their own language, and that Muhammad is for those who have not yet received any guidance, and whose fathers were not warned, i.e. the Arabs. In this way they won’t have any excuse and can’t say, but we did not receive any message.
Q. 6: 156- 157 explain,
Lest you should say, `The Book was sent down only to two peoples before us, (Jews and Christians) and we were indeed unaware of what they read.
Or lest you should say, `Had the Book been sent down to us, we should surely have been better guided than they.’ There has now come to you a clear evidence from your Lord and a guidance and a mercy.
The Quran is clear only to Arabs. Non Arabs don’t understand it. Muslims insist that no translation of the Quran can be accurate. Hence, it can never be clear to non-Arabs. That makes sense because it is not intended for non-Arabs.
Another confirmation that the Quran was sent only for the Arabs is in verses 26: 198-199
And if WE had sent it down to one of the non-Arabs, and he had read it to them, they would never have believed in it.
Just as Arabs have no reason to believe in a book written in a non-Arab language, non-Arabs have no reason to believe in a book written in Arabic. That is why Allah sends a messenger to each people in their own language so they understand. That makes perfect sense.
To make sure there is no misunderstanding the Quran 5:19 reiterates:
O People of the Book, there indeed has come to you Our Messenger, after a break in the series of Messengers, who makes things clear to you lest you should say, `There has come to us no bearer of glad tidings and no Warner.’ So a bearer of glad tidings and a warner has indeed come to you. And ALLAH has power over all things.
According to the Quran all people have received a revelation. The above verse says the Quran is for those who never received a revelation, lest they should say, `There has come to us no bearer of glad tidings and no Warner’.
This matter is clear, but Allah wants it to be clear even to the dumbest of people. He names the exact geographic location for which Muhammad was sent.
Q. 6:92
And this is a Book which WE have revealed, full of blessings, to fulfill that which preceded it, and to enable thee to warn the Mother of towns and those around it. أُمَّ الْقُرَى وَمَنْ حَوْلَهَا
The mother of towns, Umul Qura, is Mecca. This verse says Islam was sent to warn Mecca and its surrounding حَوْلَهَا. How can it be for all mankind?
Now this point is clear even to the dumbest of people, But Allah knows some people are really stupid and he wants to make this matter clear even to them. So he repeats the same thing in verse 42:7
Thus have WE revealed to you the Qur’an in Arabic, that you may warn the Mother of towns, and all those around it.
I heard some Muslims say, around it means everywhere. That is not the definition of around it. When we say Rome and around it, we don’t include Paris, London, Tokyo and New York as Romes surroundings. Those who bring this argument are saying that Allah says something and means something else. In other words he is deceiving people. The Quran repeatedly claims to be a “clear book” (5:15) “easy to understand” (44:58 , 54:22 , 54:32, 54:40) “explained in detail” (6:114), “conveyed clearly”, (5:16, 10:15) and with “no doubt” in it (2:1).
Now, I am sure some Muslims can quote other verses that say Islam is for all mankind. If they do so, they will prove that the above verses are false.
Either the Quran is a pack of lies and contradictions or it is only for the Arabs of Mecca and its surrounding. You decide which.
The muslims do not discuss this fact about Mo. They cleverly deny it or completely remain silent. A man may convert to Islam as his actions to commit these thing are sanctioned in Koran…but how any sane women can convert to Islam and be treated like that for the rest of her life…the heart of people are so foolish.
They do not need ‘infidels’. They will fight among themselves and die. They are increasing because they are finding safe heavens in Christian countries (or other countries) and breeding like hell. Like in India there are more muslims then in Pakisthan.
A Testimony about Mohammed and Islam of a Muslim convert to Christianity.
Mohammed, the founder of Islam (Islam, Arabic, to submit) was born at mecca, Arabia, about AD 570. He was the posthumous son of an almost unknown father, Abdullah by name. His mother died when he was only six yrs old. He was brought up at first by a grandfather, and later on by an uncle. A rich woman trader Khadija by name put him in charge of her caravans trading with Syria. At 25 yrs of age he married her, a widow of about forty yrs old. Early in life he showed signs of a markedly religious disposition. He was given to dreams, practiced fasting, retired betimes to caves in Mt Hira near mecca for seclusion and meditation. it is said that he was subject to fits of epilepsy. He claimed to receive many revelations from God through the agency of the Angel Gabriel. The polytheism, that is the worship of hundreds of thousands of gods, which he saw all around him, he rejected, and emphasised that there is only one god. He refused the Christian faith of three persons in one Godhead-Father, son and Holy spirit-and denied the truth of the scripture which says: “The Lord (Jehovah, singular) our God (Elohim, plural) is one Lord (Jehovah, singular).” (Deut 6:4).
At first Mohammed’s claims met with little acceptance and much persecution. When about 40 yrs old he moved to Medina, Arabia, with about 200 adherents, including his wife, Khadija, his cousin, Ali, and his adopted son Zayd. He was encouraged to take this step, for he had received an invitation from some of his adherents in that town, who had prepared their fellow townsmen to expect his arrival. This Hegina (withdrawals) is said to be the real beginning of the Moslem era. At Mecca he was persecuted and his claims refused save by a few. At Medina he became the statesman, the executive, the mouthpiece of the new theocracy.
The mohammedans trace their descent from Abraham though Hagar’s son, Ismail (Genesis 16). Their great book is the Qur’n of Koran, for which the most extreme verbal, divine inspiration is claimed. In it Jesus is acknowledged to be a great prophet of God, but inferior to Mohammed. They hold that our Lord was born of a virgin, and that He was the promised Messiah. They affirm that as the Koran superseded the Holy Scriptures, so Mohammed superseded our Lord, Mohammed made the most ridiculous claims for himself, saying, “I was a prophet when Adam was still between clay and water.” he claimed that God said to him, “Had it not been for thee, I had not have created the world.” The koran contains outstanding inaccuracies, such as the confusing of Miriam, the sister of Moses and Aaron, with the virgin Mary, and depicting Haman, chief nobleman at the court of Ahasuerus, king of Persia, as a minister of Pharaoh, King of Egypt. Dr SM Zwemer says, “The koran has many historical errors, contains monstrous fables, teaches a false cosmogony and is full of superstition.”
Islam sanctions slavery and the slave trade, allows each mohammedan four wives, and the co-hibiting with as many female slaves as he may possess. Mohammed at his death (AD 632) left nine wives to mourn his loss. The lot of a Mohammed woman is indeed very sad and melancholy. She is confined to the Zenana (women’s part of the house), and is cut off from all communications with the outside the world. According to Mohammedan law no part of the woman’s body from the crown of her head to the sole of her feet must be exposed to the public gaze. Yashmak, a term meaning a double veil, with slits for the eyes to look through, is one of the very sad sights; a Mohammedan woman, draped from head to foot in enveloping linen, gliding about like a ghost.
The use of pig for food, alcohol, gambling and usury are strictly forbidden. Circumcision is compulsory.
To acknowledge one God, who is righteous, and exacts righteousness in the lives of His creatures, on the surface may sound immeasurably better than the million gods of the Hindus. But when we see the fanatical and bitter hatred to Christianity in the part of the Mohammedans, we begin to appraise it at its true worthlessness, and its origin as Satanic in conception and development.
We, whose happy lot has been cast in lands where the Word of God is honoured, can have very little idea how very, very hard it is for those brought up from impressionable childhood’s days amid heathen beliefs and customs to break loose from these impressions and embrace the Christian faith. In such cases it seems as if all the powers of darkness were let loose to contest each inch on the road. There is no halfway house, o compromise possible. A mother in her fanatical frenzy will think she is doing God’s service by putting poison in her son’s food, and gloating over his dying agonies, if he dares to question her beliefs, and look favorably upon Christianity. A Christian convert cannot earn his living save by moving far away to a distant place, where he is quite unknown. He is beset by dangers and difficulties unknown in our favoured lands.
You can visit any islamic countries and witness the unbelievable, hellish power set in motion to prevent at all costs any of their co-religionists embracing the Christian faith. You have to witness it on the spot to realize how real and terrible are the powers of darkness. It is well stated in Holy Writ “We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Eph 6:12). Christians can indeed be thankful for, and take comfort from the Scriptures which reminds us that “greater is He (the Holy Spirit) that is in you, than he (the devil) that is in the world” (1John 4:4).
There are millions of souls struggled out of the darkness of Mohemmedans into the light of the Gospel of the grace of God, it is good to remember there are thousands, at this very time, exercised in the same way and passing through similar ordeals. Their victories may never be recorded in earth, but all are recorded in heaven, where “there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenth” (Lk 15:10).
Two things seem to operate markedly in such cases (1) A deep sense of sin and guilt, giving the strong urge to seek God’s forgiveness; and (2) a conception of God far removed from that of the heathen religions, attracting them to trust the Saviour of sinners. Christianity stands out in vivid contrast to all other religions in that it alone offers a Saviour to sinful men. It was no wonder that the late well-known preacher, Joseph Parker, when giving a lecture on contemporary religions, paused impressively, saying, “Remember Christianity is not one of them.” No it stands altogether by itself in its own divine glory.
(From Mohammedanism to Christ, A testimony of Sheik Abdullah)
http://www.chaptertwobooks.org.uk/from-mohammedanism-to-christ.html
Fastest growing because Muslims are sub humans. They don’t procreate like humans but do it like pigs. On top of that the sick and filthy incestuous Ummah inbreeds like freaks (following the dictates of the filthiest freak to walk the face of earth)producing more inbred freaks. And all these retarded freaks then go about seeking vengeance for being born, making life a living hell for themselves and all around them. 1.5 billion strong litter of inbred swine of which this SJLDHFI is proud of!!!
Really? Did you miss the last para? The author knows that Ulla got it wrong and that the Quasi Mussies are dumber than the Ulla had anticipated. Here,”Now, I am sure some Muslims can quote other verses that say Islam is for all mankind. If they do so, they will prove that the above verses are false.
Either the Quran is a pack of lies and contradictions or it is only for the Arabs of Mecca and its surrounding. You decide which.”
this article is baseless and created out of ignorant and arrogance. check this
O mankind! verily there hath come to you a convincing proof from your Lord: For We have sent unto you a light (that is) manifest. (The Noble Quran, 4:174)"
see its for mnkind, and the way you took the verses are seriously out of the context, it was detailing some questions why people said it is not sent not in other language etc. so Allah said those above.
/The governor of Tokyo apologised to the Muslim world Tuesday (30/4/2013) after saying Islamic countries have nothing in common but Allah and "fighting with each other"./
Fair comment from this Japanese governor, Shabeer?
And the mountains as pegs?
And (have We not) created you in pairs,"
Let us look at Noble Verse 27:61 "Or, Who has made the earth firm to live in; made rivers in its midst; set thereon mountains immovable; and made a separating bar between the two bodies of flowing water? (can there be another) god besides God? Nay, most of them know not."
Let us look at Noble Verse 50:7 "And the earth- We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and produced therein every kind of beautiful growth (in pairs)-"
We can clearly see from the above Noble Verses (13:1-4,15:19,16:15-16, 21:30-31, 31:10, 50:6-9, 78:4-8, 27:61 and 50:7) that Allah Almighty created the mountains to stand firmly on earth, and to stabilize the earth and not let it shake or get out of balance (15:19,16:15-16, 21:30-31 and 31:10).
According to the scientific discovery that I saw on T.V., geologists discovered that for every curved object' height that is above the earth's surface (such as mountains and hills) it is expanded 10 to 15 times more inside earth.
For for instance, if a mountain's height is 4,000 feet, then its expansion inside the earth is approximately 40,000 to 60,000 feet.
This expansion inside the earth, according to what they (the geologists) claim, keeps the earth together while its revolving in a high speed around itself, and prevents it from getting out of balance and shaking while revolving.
If mountains and hills didn't exist today, then the earth's incredible fast rotation around itself would be shaky and we would be having earth quakes every minute of our lives.
It is quite amazing that we find such valuable information revealed very accurately in the Noble Quran, a Holy Scripture that was revealed from GOD Almighty more than 1400 years ago.
2- Scientific facts and evidence with pictures about mountains preventing the earth from shaking, and they are like pegs:
The following article was taken from http://www.islam-guide.com/frm-ch1-1-b.htm, and is also from "A Brief Illustration Guide To Understanding Islam" book that I recently bought, http://www.islam-brief-guide.org, library of Congress Catalog Card Number: 97-67654, ISBN: 9960-34-011-2.
The amazing creation of earth and its relationship with mountains:
While I was watching the "Al-Jazeera" Arabic news channel through my satellite dish, I saw a documentary program explaining how the mountains were formed/created on earth, and what's their effect on the earth's geology.
First let us look at the following Noble Verses from the Noble Quran:
Let us look at Noble Verse 31:10 "He created the heavens [sky] without any pillars that ye can see; He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and He scattered through it beasts of all kinds. we send down rain from the sky, and produce on the earth every kind of noble creature, in pairs."
Let us look at Noble Verses 16:15-16 "And He has set up on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and rivers and roads; that ye may guide yourselves, and marks and signposts and by the stars (men) guide themselves."
Let us look at Noble verses 21:30-31 "Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
And We have set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with them, and We have made therein broad highways (between mountains) for them to pass through: That they may receive guidance."
Let us look at Noble Verses 13:1-4 "Alif Lam Mim Ra. These are the signs of the book: that which hath been revealed unto thee from they Lord is the truth; but most men believe not.
Allah is He Who raised the heavens [sky] without any pillars that ye can see; then He established Himself on the throne (of Authority); He has subjected the sun and the moon (to His Law)! Each one runs (its course) for a term appointed. He doth regulate all affairs, explaining the signs in detail, that ye may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.
And it is He Who spread out the earth, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and (flowing rivers: and fruit of every kind He made in pairs, two and two: He draweth the night as a veil O'er the day. Behold, verily in these things there are Signs for those who consider!
And in the earth are tracts (diverse though) neighbouring, and gardens of vines and fields sown with corn, and palm trees growing out of single roots or otherwise: watered with the same water, yet some of them We make more excellent than others to eat. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who understand!"
Let us look at Noble Verse 15:19 "And the earth We have spread out; set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance."
Let us look at Noble Verses 50:6-9 "Do they not look at the sky above them? How We have made it and adorned it, and there are no flaws in it?
And the earth We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and produced therein every kind of beautiful growth (in pairs)
To be observed and commemorated by every devotee turning (to Allah).
And We send down from the sky rain charged with blessings, and We produce therewith gardens and grain for harvests;"
Let us look at Noble Verses 78:4-8 "Verily, verily they shall soon (come to) know!
Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse,
Your reply is total nonsense. The sacrificed animals were left in the streets to rot and for city sanitation to clean up, so caught you in a Lie there. Your Taqiyya is weak. As for millions of muzzies being killed, that's commonly you muzzies slaughtering each other because all your sects claim to the same 'we are the only way' crap. As for Human sacrifice, again, irrelevant as that was abandoned Long ago, then even animal sacrifice was abandoned by the vast majority of Humanity.
Sakat, the truth is that allah was an invention by Muhammad. Alla's ignorance and evil are the manifestations of its creator's illiteracy.
@Sakat,
Thanks.
@ I-HATE-ISLAM
If Columbus were to be the follower of this MAD MOHAMMED ,perhaps he would not have been discovered America.Mr Allah of the Quaran say's,the earth is FLAT,naturally Columbus would think there is only two end ,if he had believed the Quaran and ,would abandon the idea of voyaging from west in search of India .But he believed truth and, the truth was that ,"the earth is not flat but round in shape" and,he set himself in search of India and found America.A God's revelation,a miracle book etc title's these Muslims give to this book ,which contains full of lie's ,even a new born child new ,the earth is not flat ,the son is not circumscribing the earth,the earth is not the center of Universe ,moon is not above the stars ,yet these people believe it ha,ha,ha.Either this Allah is not the author of this book or he is not Allah at all or this book may be the handy work of any thug not more then that.As Ali Sina said ,this is a good book to read ,while sitting on commode ,you can use it for another purpose as well ha,ha,ha.
@chuck
Actually who are you?I amaze at the knowledge you are carrying and,the art of placing them in perfect order in your post's next only to Mr.Sina,really it is worth reading your post's.
@All
Allah acts are consistence or inconstant?
@Abdullah
Why Allah chose Only Mohammad to be final prophet? On what basis Allah decided Mohammad should be final? Where is Mohammad now? Is he in his graveyard or with Allah? Why Mohammad would be consultant of Allah on the judgement day? Why did Allah favour Arabian by sending Quran in their language?
@I-HATE-ISLAM
I was going to write something on the same lines and then saw your post and resisted the temptation.
Abdullah, can you show proof that when allah refers to himself in plural pronouns it is considering the angels? If your assertion is correct (and it is not), it means that allah has the same status as the angels who are co-equals in creation and other activities that allah engaged in. This was one of the areas which came up for discussion between Muhammad and the deputation from Najran. Having nothing to say, Muhammad came up with the trick that some portions of the quran( possibly including where pronouns are used) are 'ambiguous' and should not preoccupy the 'believer'. Feeling thoroughly humiliated by the team from Najran, his further answer was to send Walid ibn Khalid with a dawa to the community giving them a 3 day ultimatum to convert to islam or face the wrath of muhammadanism. Never ever being belligerent, Najran capitulated and Walid remained there for 6 months teaching the people "THE QUR'AN AND THE SUNNA OF THE PROPHET" as Muhammad had ordered.
This was an example of intolerance that now typifies muhammadanism.
No Abdullah, the use of plural pronouns in the quran is an acknowledgement of the Holy Trinity. Just as the quran says that a master and his slave cannot be equals, God cannot be equal to or sit in council with the angels He created. I am saying "God" here just assuming but without conceding that allah refers to God.
@Abdullah,
Another copy-paster.
Thats a rather foolish argument and I can destroy each of them. Lets start with the 'nail' analogy. A nail has a blunt head that lies above the surface and a sharp end that is driven inward (what you relate with 'root'). Now unlike this most mountains don't have 'blunt' heads, considering their scale of size AND there roots aren't sharp and narrow but spread out with local valleys. So the analoy is fallacious to start with.
//By fixing the Earth's crust they prevent any sliding over the magma layer //
And now bring your Geologist friends on. I want to see how they laugh. Mountains are CAUSED by plate tectonics, movement of plates. They are the RESULT of this disturbance not the CAUSE to prevent this disturbance!! I don't know where your Geologists are studying/studied they don't even know the RESULT comes after the CAUSE!!
//The fixing effect of mountains is known as isostasy in scientific literature. Isostasy is the state of equilibrium between the upward force created by the mantle layer and the downward force created by the Earth's crust.//
Two self contradictory statements. Your second line is right. There is no fixing effects of mountain. Most mountains are either moving upward or are getting eroded, no isostasy in Himalayas, for example. Your second line proves that Isostasy isn't the 'fixing effect OF mountains', it can't be. In the simplest form it is the equilibrium reached in a SYSTEM with liquid in it with a load floating over it.
If mountains had stabilizing effects then most earthquake prone areas wouldn't have been in mountainous areas. There wouldn't have been earthquakes in the Himalayan, Karakoram belt (the kind of which registered in Iran last week) or the Pamirs. My guess is you know nothing about the subject other than sourcing stuffs from pseudo-scientific quranic journals. USE YOUR COMMON SENSE!!
As far as refer to root of mountain before Mohamad, how about: Jonah 2:6 NIV : To the roots of the mountains I sank down; the earth beneath barred me in forever. But you brought my life up from the pit, O LORD my God.
Allah is one, Islam (i use this as your nickname). the plural pronouns is refer to Allah and the Angels. I think Allah use those words to appreciate the involvement of the Angels. e.g: Allah order the Gabriel to convey Qur'an to Muhammad peace be upon him.
The verse states that mountains perform the function of preventing shocks in the Earth. This fact was not known by anyone at the time the Qur'an was revealed. It was, in fact, brought to light only recently, as a result of the findings of modern geological research.
Formerly, it was thought that mountains were merely protrusions rising above the surface of the Earth. However, scientists realised that this was not actually the case, and that those parts known as the mountain root extended down as far as 10-15 times their own height. With these features, mountains play a similar role to a nail or peg firmly holding down a tent. For example, Mount Everest, the summit of which stands approximately 9 km above the surface of the Earth, has a root deeper than 125 km.
In another verse it is revealed that Allah "made the mountains firm." (Qur'an, 79:32) The word "arsaha" in this verse means "was made rooted, was fixed, was nailed to the earth." Similarly, mountains extend to the surface layer joining lines on and below the surface, and nail these together. By fixing the Earth's crust they prevent any sliding over the magma layer or amongst the layers themselves. In short, mountains can be compared to nails holding strips of wood together. The fixing effect of mountains is known as isostasy in scientific literature. Isostasy is the state of equilibrium between the upward force created by the mantle layer and the downward force created by the Earth's crust. As mountains lose mass due to erosion, soil loss or melting of glaciers, they can gain mass from the formation of glaciers, volcanic explosions or soil formation. Therefore, as mountains grow lighter they are pressed upwards by the raising force implemented by the liquids. Alternatively, as they grow heavier they are pressed into the mantle by the force of gravity. Equilibrium between these two forces is established by isostasy. http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_25.h…
no, that is not Islam bro Raj. I'm very sorry you have to see Islam in that terrible way. I have the wonderful one.
millions of Muslims are murdered too, and it still counting..Islam is not anti-life, we just restrain ourselves from excessive passion that can do harm to others and to ourselves. animal sacrifice is just a valuable symbol. it did stop the habit of human sacrifice that time hehe. we also share that meat to the others (poor people, orphaned, etc) to help them and to share our happiness. is it bad?
istighfar my brother/sister.. never trapped on anger.. 😉
Brother Dash!
I do not know if Ka'bah is the center of the earth or not, but Ka'bah is the center direction of our pray. we do not worship the Ka'bah, we worship Allah subhana huwata'ala.
about the form of earth, Allah told us from the Qur'an that the earth is spherical on Az-Zumar:5, the word "Takwir" means balled/roll along.. it tells the spherical of earth. yes Qur'an n science …. hope you are getting my point… 🙂
maybe someday eating hamburger will be a very satanic lifestyle in this world. and in the future your next generation will call you an Evil.. just joke! in Islam, a standard to measure maturity is not from the age, but the readiness of the biological system in the body and the mentality. the age can not tells us a person is ready to marry or not, but the readiness of that person does. a 40 years old man or woman can be very unstable mentality and not ready for marriage.
ok, i will turn down my level of thought so that you can understand them. do you know what is the meaning of "if"? i never said Qur'an told us to make that environmental disaster, clever.. it is "if". do you get it? so, i believe a book consist of hundreds page in Arabic that came to this world few hundreds years ago on a dessert terrain of Arabia to a Man that can not read and write called Muhammad peace be upon him, is still original until now. We do not need to build a high tech security system library like Vatican does to keep it originality.. and amazingly, that book is full of information about so many modern study. you may think that information is not a miracle, everyone knows that,, but please change your side of view. is the man that cannot read and write that lived on the dessert of Arab hundreds years ago knew that information? i found the truth by read it from 1st page to the last page, not cut it verse by verse just to find a sentence that might covered my opinion. my brother, I found Islam, because I think a lot. Allah told Human to think a lot to find a way to Allah… BTW please remind me if what I say is hurt your feeling. I never want to do that. for Mr. Sina, I forwards to you my God's dare to create a book like a Qur'an. not only the information, but also the permanency and be read, be trusted, and also followed by a billion people in the whole parts of this world.
Abdullah, Muhammad was a pedophile not just because he married a 6 yr old child but because he had a craving for female children. Your hadiths are full of that. In one he had promised to marry Habiba bint Abbas whom he saw crawling should he live to see her reach marriageable age which to him was 6 yrs. Another hadith has him saying that he carried so and so when she was a child and greatly desired her. These were the longings of a sick man.
You say that according to Aisha Muhammad never saw her private part and she never saw his. Islam is a master of contradictory facts. In one breath it is said that both of them had their bath together from the same pot. Slave mentality said this was scientific because it conserved water. When they bathed together, were they blindfolded or were they fully clothed to have kept each other's genitals hidden from the other?
In addition, Aisha herself is recorded as having said that during her menstruation, Muhammad would ask her to put on a piece of cloth and would proceed to finger her. How was the fingering done without the object being seen or looked at?
Concerning your self delusion that muhammadanism is for all, it is quite obvious that you are not familiar with the propaganda. The quran copiously repeats that it was sent to and meant for the Arabs. That is why Muhammad said that it was revealed in the Arabic tongue, which in his state of hallucination, was the language of paradise.
By the way, the man was a drug addict. He said that it was after eating the food 'Gabriel' brought him from allah that he became sexually uncontrollable as he acquired the sexual strength of 100 'heanely' men. Each heavenly man is endowed with the libidinous ability of 40 earthly men. So what was the content of this mysterious food whose source was known only to the prophet of sex?
You claim that in her whole life Aisha never said anything discouraging about her husband. Did she not? She accused him of equating women with dogs and donkeys. Try that today and see if you will not be accused of not only misogyny but debasing womanhood. Muhammad said he physically saw allah praying when he went to paradise. Aisha responded that whoever said that Muhammad had seen allah was a liar. Without any equivocation, she called Muhammad a bloody liar. There are more if you are interested in finding out.
Abdullah, you asked "-HOW GOOD YOU TRY TO MAKE A MIRACLE BOOK LIKE QUR'AN, YOU CAN'T EVEN DO THAT-". The quran is nothing other than a collection of ancient fables,myths and fairy tales twisted to suit the purposes of a conman who used it to instill fear in defenseless and illiterate people he coerced into accepting him as a prophet. One billion people have accepted it as a 'miracle' because they are stupid enough not to see that the impostor failed the test of the prophet, even by his own standard, in multiple ways. If the quran is, indeed, a miracle as you claim, why does it need brute force to survive and be accepted? Anything which deprives one of voluntary acceptance or adherence can never be genuine. So is the quran. Mere being in circulation has caused more than enough pollution; dumping a million copies in the ocean means environmental disaster. Just keep what you have to yourself and keep repeating it mechanically like a robot that has no thinking faculty.
Shabby, why does your allah choose the plural pronouns such as 'we', 'our' when it is talking? Does this not prove that this entity is more than one? Surely allah is kafir and Muhammad was a confused poor plagiarist.
(15:9) As for the Admonition, indeed it is We Who have revealed it and it is indeed We Who are its guardians.
That is, you should note it well that it is We Who have sent down this zikr. Thus it is not Our Messenger whom you are calling insane but in fact this abusive remark applies to Us. Moreover, you should know that it is Our Word and We are preserving it. Therefore, you can do no harm to it, nor can you discredit it by your ridicules, taunts and objections, nor can you hamper its progress. Whatever you may do against it, no one will ever be able to change or tamper with it.
@Abdullah,
What does 21:31 prove? And what exactly does it says about the Geology of Earth? You come clean with it first and then we can figure out whether your Geologist friends will end up laughing or not. by the way, this is what your own scholar, ibn Kathir has to say about this verse: "And We have placed on the earth firm mountains,
means, mountains which stabilize the earth and keep it steady and lend it weight, lest it should shake with the people, i.e., move and tremble so that they would not be able to stand firm on it — because it is covered with water, apart from one-quarter of its surface. So the land is exposed to the air and sun, so that its people may see the sky with its dazzling signs and evidence.
".
But over to you about a class on plate tectonics first.
you seem so sure about that. but where are the source of that data? why we must trust them?
Point 1
Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) married Hazrat ayesha(may Allah be pleased with her) at the age of 6 but consumed his marriage at the age of 9.[Bukhari] Would a pedophile wait for three years when the parents are ready to offer their daughter to him? Some critics say this is because he did not have money, mean etc. But they missed a point, that is, it happened in that time when Ayesha(ra) was 9. As Ayesha(ra) reached puberty, his father said to the prophet to take her to his house. In this context prophet said this. According to principle of pedophile no pedophile will do such act when everything is in his side.
Point 2
Ayesha (ra) said in Tirmidhi hadith, that She never saw the private part's of Muhammmad(sm) and nor Muhammad did saw her.
'Aayeshah Radiyallahu 'Anha reports: (because of the excessive modesty of Sayyidina Rasulullah Sallallahu 'Alayhi Wasallam) "I did not have the courage to see the private parts of Rasulullah Sallallahu'Alayhi Wasallam, or that I never saw the private parts of Rasulullah Sallallahu 'Alayhi Wasallam".
Tirmidhi 342:2
So will a pedophile marry and be restrained from having sex? Question arises so why Prophet Muhammad(sm) married her? It was a divine wisdom from Allah. The whole muslim world consider Ayesha(ra) as Mother of the believer. She lived for more than 16 years after the death of Muhammad(sm). Ayesha(ra) had excellent memory. She was a Scholar of the scholars. She delivered thousands of hadith in her whole life. Without her knowledge we would not be able to know thousands of rules and regulation, especially for the women. She is a role model in Islam for all the women.
Point 3
All who claiming that Ayesha(ra) was pre-pubescent don't they know that even a girl of age 9 can reach puberty? To check you have to just go on the internet and see. There are many instances that many 9 year old girls reached puberty at this particular age.
Sayyidah Aisha said: ‘When a girl is nine years old, she is a woman (meaning, she has attained puberty).’
Tirmidhi 1109
Science tells us that the age of puberty keeps on changing depending upon diet, surrounding, and weather. For example in America the age of puberty is much earlier as compared to the India and Pakistan. Today science also tells us that closer to the equator the more chances of puberty is much more earlier. A recent case happened where a girl in Bombay in India who has just reached 9 she has got puberty, she has got menstrual cycle. And that thing is there in the family; even the mother had the same thing. It may be rare. So it is very much possible that some women can reach puberty at the age of 9. The same thing with Hazrat Ayesha(ra), she reached puberty at an early age.
Point 4
Another group say that Ayesha(ra) played with dolls. That's right. But you need to hear that her husband was a Prophet. So he had to act on that way, with love, affection and kindness. Prophet gave her liberty as she was very young. Do they want to say that, a pubescent girl does not play? I ask is it not possible that a woman is eager to play and pass time in joy? Yes, doll is permitted for children but Prophet Muhammad(Sm) was not harsh. He was very affectionate that he permitted her beloved wife Ayesha(ra) to play with dolls.
Point 5
In her whole life Hazrat Ayesha(ra) never said any discouraging thing about her husband Muhammad(sm). In fact she herself said that,”Who was more fortunate and loving than me among the wives of Huzur(Muhammad(sm))?" Will a pedophile be worthy of such highness of character? Their relation is an example of how should one treat with young women. Their relation is the most beautiful relation with love, affection that everyone wishes to have in the history of human.
All who are all saying without knowledge and filled with misinformation. Please study Islam with open mind. Islam is for all, not only for the Arabs and Muslims.
@chuck, prove this wrong!
"We placed firmly embedded mountains on the earth, so it would not move under them…"
(The Qur'an, 21:31)
a man that you mocked, lived on the dessert, can not read can make this sentences that full information about modern geological study…. now you choose, Qur'an sent by God, or Muhammad Peace be upon him was a genius man that can write this part of Qur'an.
or if you say that is wrong, i swear i'll capture your statement and show it to my Geologist friends, and laugh.
@Abdullah
//Either its profound, Either its from God, Either it is comprehensive, Either it is as I say it is or it is not! at least you should investigate it//
We investigated and found "it is not".
If all of Qur'ans were thrown to the ocean. All of them.
We could produce the Qur'an all over again.
We could bring a chinese hafiz memorizer of the Qur'an,
We could bring a Russian hafiz memorizer of the Qur'an,
We could bring an American hafiz memorizer of the Qur'an,
We could bring an Indonesian hafiz memorizer of the Qur'an,
We could bring an Italian hafiz memorizer of the Qur'an,
We could bring a german hafiz memorizer of the Qur'an,
who even didn't know each other.
They would all come here together, and in two days they could all recite simultaneusly
and the Qur'an is back again!
you own it to yourself to read this powerful scripture,
Don't ignore it! you cannot afford to ignore it!
Either its profound, Either its from God, Either it is comprehensive, Either it is as I say it is or it is not!
at least you should investigate it.
why should you be blind to something that might have that kind of impact on your life and the life of others,
after all this is not legislation of Muhammad Peace and Blessing be upon him,
it is the legislation of All Mighty God.
Ali Sina, how good you try to make a miracle book like Qur'an, you can't even do that.
let say you finish your book, then you produce it 1 Billion copies and we thrown them all to the ocean (and all of the soft copy also),
no one could produce them again. no one will memorize it even a page. even you!
perhaps you can reproduce them again but I swear it will be another version.
I pray to Allah the Mighty, to let me watch you fall and humiliated by your own Fitnah!
OF COURSE ISLAM ISNT FOR JUST ARABS BECAUSE AS MUCH AS I KNOW THE PROPHET SENT MISSIONARIES TO CHINA AND ALL OVER THE WORLD. IT IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION AND IT HASNT BEEN AROUND FOR AS LONG AS CHRISTIANITY HAS. IT WILL EVENTUALLY SURPASS.
islam is not a religion, its a perfect way to destroy the whole world, every one can feel
it.
Yes, there are only 83 verses in the chapter 36 of the Qur'an. I think he has one eye like Dajjal (liar).
Your entire essay was flawed from its inception. YES the Qur'an says God sent a messenger to all people. BUT He gives every messenger THE SAME MESSAGE.
ISLAM is a dark chapter in human history. ISLAM does not belong in human civilization. Mo was a pedo, a rapist, a killer, a liar , and a sex maniac and slave lover.
Pagan, not Jewish, silly muzzie.
I've done my OWN research on the quran, hadiths, etc. as well as islams history in Libraries.
islam is an abomination to Humanity, it is anti-life to it's core, and responsible for more than 300 Million dead, and counting.
islam still practices animal sacrifice, and the records of such are public..
You refer to yourselves as slaves and islam still engages in the African slave trade that it started centuries ago.
islam is itself an atrocity, and inflicts such on every man, woman, and child in it's path.
Go ahead, look it all up…then choke on the truth of your sickening cult.
Javeed,
You people are absiolute fool, don't mind, but it is a fact. Truth is alwasy sour. But you would not be anymore, once you throw out your fear of questioning religion. Check yourself, don't be gullible, don't be blind supporter of anything. I knew Islam is muck and evil but still as per your comment that Ahmed is forecasted in the Samveda, I checked ( But we all know you never). Usually where you search some text or word on computer using control F, it shows progress, takes few second to say 'Not Found' but when I searched 'Ahmed' in Samaveda(odf format), it immediately showed 'Not Found' without a second. Even a computer is so confident that it is not mentioned in any of the scriptures. Still Idiot muslims insist that, withiut clarifying', Muhammad is predicted in all scriptures. SHAME
Zakir Naik is the idiot of the century. Naik is so idiot that himself cannot understand where his is lyiing and cannot understand where he could be caught red handed. Why he is not insulted or shameful just because muslims are so intolerant and fool that they will maltreat the person who would say anything against him. MUSLIMS ARE BRAINDEAD, MAD, IDIOT, ILLITERATE, IGNORANT.
That is what most people say at first, until they read the facts and start seeing the truth that they have never been told. I was among such people myself.
You all make me loose faith in humanity… Please read up on your facts about Islam before spewing these ignorant words about it. Its a religion just like Christianity or Catholicism. Just because you don't agree with the Muslim beliefs doesn't mean they are wrong..
i was enjoying the exchange between the two of you. Loki, I agree with you. I guess, ultimately, to me, Koran is a book. written at a specific point in time.
Should those who choose to follow it not forbid themselves use of cars, the internet, etc?
I wonder… who (what group of people: women?) the book would have banned from using the internet, for example, if it existed at the time.
Ahamadhi pithoohu parimedha mruthasya jaagrani aham suryo ivaajanah. (Samaveda.prathisarga.parv.6.8)
''Ahmed acquired religious law from his lord. This religious law is full of wisdom. I receive light from him just as from the sun.
@chris
You are talking about Bhavisya Puran (Book about Future predictions). This is totally false book. If it is to be taken as true according to it Mohammed was incarnation of demon who was killed by Shiva in his previous birth. The puran says monster killed by Shiva would take birth in desert land, he would keep long beard and would be rapist, mass murdered etc. and would preach Shaitanic ideology.
your ignoble quran is good to wipe my ass.
and your muhammad prophet is referred as demon. so shut up
there is no muhammad in any books it is just a bullshit .
muhammad is nothing but a child rapist.
I suggest you to study the Noble Quran and Islam, open your heart and learn about the true Islam, go to the nearest local mosque, ask any question regarding Islam to an imam, interact with your Muslim friends. You are welcom to understand Islam on it's correct foam.
I suggest you to study the Noble Quran and Islam, open your heart and learn about the true Islam, go to the nearest local mosque, ask any question regarding Islam to an imam, interact with your Muslim friends. You are welcom to understand Islam on it's correct foam.
Have you heard any of the idol worshipers climbing on their idols calling others for prayers? Well if Kaaba is an idol which we pray for do you think we would climb on for calling for prayers? History says that when prophet muhammed pbuh) asked his companion bilal (ra) to call others for prayers what bilal did was climbing up on the Kaaba, if something like that happened in a country where idols are worshipped they sure will arrest the person who did for being offended. We Muslims from east west north n south bow down to our lord in one direction. Kaaba is nothing but the center, and it is your humbleness makes me drop my comment here brother. May you be blessed for directing your doubts with a polite manner respecting the religion u don't agree with 🙂
"We did not send (O' Muhammad SAW) but as a mercy for mankind" (Noble Qur'an, Surah Al-Anbiyah 21:107)
'(O' Muhammad SAW) Verily We have sent you as a witness and a bearer of glad tidings and a warner, and as one who invites to Allah by His Permission, and as a lamp spreading light" (Noble Qur'an Al-Ahzab 33:45-46)
This clearly prove that he was sent to Mankind!!
Muhammad worked for his wife trading & this brought him into contact with Talmudic Jews & Heretic Christians. He learnt all his rubbish from them.
Talmudic Judaism is really Babylonian ZOROASTRIANISM, with a name change – YHWH for Mazda.
Talmudic Judaism-Roman Catholicism – Islam – ALL INTO PEDOPHILIA
Sweetie you have not read carefully I quoted about the glorious history of Muhammad can not be a reality with behavior what fellow loki depicted. Over & out
You are pwned !
You do not give any justification for the accusations about the behaviour of your Mo, but just cunter attack with similiar accusations of others religions. I, then, think that the things told about Mo are correct.
I agree with you for 100% !!
hugging
towards its logical conclusion. the flame
is extra bright before it
goes off and this bogus ideology has
run its course. time for it go
down for good for it is not going to be
missed. of course we are both
unlucky and fortunate to be witness to
it if our natural life span
stretches to say till 2040 maybe.
fortunate for obivious reason and
unlucky to see the mayhem and pain
inflicted by the evil monster
struggling to survive. though I doubt
that it would be as bloody as
the two world wars of the past century
and not as tame as the self
destrution or gradual disintegration of
stalinist-maoist
totalitarianism. its no wonder that two
dictatorial and regressive
system so inimical in their world view
except when it comes to slavery
of the masses make such strange yet
ever willing bedfellows.
chugging
but all existence has the greatest gift by
the supreme being
inherentally embedded in its very
nature which is the power of self
correct. 20th century saw the two
monsters of imperialism and
nazi-fascism rise and find the world too
small to exist together and
go for each others throat resulting in
mutual destruction and
emancipation of majority of humanity
enslaved by the duo. the second
half saw another monster in
communism disintegrate. the 21st
century
starts with good news and glad tidings
of growin anger among the
civilized for the arrogance, stupidity,
grossness and inhumanity of
the moth eaten cult of satan and its
obnoxious aspiration of
enslavement and destruction of open
societies and modern civilization
riding fat on unearned wealth of oil. the
islamist like weasel set for
doom decides to leave the sewer and
swamp to conquer the town, has set
it self on course of collision which in its
depraved of sense,
intoxicated with power of money from
the oil, deluded with numerical
superiority and stupefied with
superstitious bigotry is
'you reap as you sow' or as the cause-effect theory of science and karma both state, we the non-muslim suffer the islamic plague for being tolerent of this satanic curse and therefor complicit in the disgusting criminal activities of this cult. on the other hand all the real pathetic evildoers from all region, culture, religious denomination are reborn as muslims as a punishment, for what could be a bigger punishment than being born in the cult of satan, with blind and blocked intelligence, a life spent defending the chosen pervert of satan whole life, with no hope for spiritual evolution, a life surrounded and steeped in bigotry, hatred, lies, superstition, operating in bad faith, praying and submitting to evil and not realising it, being the excutionior of satan and his edict primarily on ones own near and dear ones and secondarily to every other living being one happens to be in contact with. the life of a muslim is a nightmare and closer to his faith worse the condition.
@truthseeker
People like you, aka 'witch-hunters' were responsible for my people being rendered very nearly extinct in much of the world, and the muslims did their damndest also.
The numbers don't match up, yet the words do…and that is a lie? NO, dipwit it's an error, people make them all time–as you did by opening your gob and mouthing off like an Inquisitioner.
ALL you've accomplished is to showcase and highlight your own idiocy and utter lacking of the better qualities normally found in Human beings, then there's folks like you who are a reminder to the rest of us about what NOT to become.
You're a disgrace to your parents, ancestors, your faith and the Human species.
I have to agree, and would point out that while hate does exist for a reason and gave Humanity a survival advatage vs. the invironment way back when–it does have a very serious toll on the body. It's like running a car engine on nitrous oxide all the time.
Hate feeds the islamists, and hurts you. Not ideal, right?
Save it, leash it and use it at Your choice to employ it, like a tool or an App..
Don't let it rule you, you're the consciousness, the mind…it is your place to control it, make it serve you, rather than vice-versa.
he's a total wack-job…check this out:
Propagation of other faiths in Islamic states
Naik says that propagation of other religions within an Islamic state is forbidden while he appreciates people of other religions allowing Muslims to freely propagate Islam in their country. Naik explains this by saying that, for example, mathematics teachers must teach that 2+2=4 and not 2+2=3 or 5. Likewise, Naik argues, “regarding building of churches or temples, how can we allow this when their religion is wrong and when their worshipping is wrong?”[29]
Taliban
According to Naik, Taliban has been demonized by channels like BBC and CNN. He claims that Taliban respect women a lot and fake videos of Taliban are being shown on the T.V. channels.[30]
Naik has said that the theory of evolution is "only a hypothesis, and an unproven conjecture at best".[22] According to Naik, most scientists "support the theory, because it went against the Bible – not because it was true."[23]
Let's take a brief look at his global popularity yes?
Yoginder Sikand wrote in 2011 that influential sections of the Deobandi community in India were beginning to hold a negative view of Naik. They said he was not abiding by ijma (Islamic consensus) and qiyas (analogical deduction of the Quran and Hadith), and therefore, in Sikand's view, was undermining their authority.[50]
Khaled Ahmed criticised Naik for "indirectly support[ing]" Al-Qaeda by referring to Osama bin Laden as a "soldier of Islam".[51] In 2008 an Islamic scholar in Lucknow, shahar qazi Mufti Abul Irfan Mian Firangi Mahali, issued a fatwa against Naik, saying that he supported Osama bin Laden, and that his teachings were un-Islamic.[52]
Torkel Brekke, a professor of religious history in Norway, calls Naik a "very controversial figure" because of his rhetorical attack on other religions and other varieties of Islam.[53] He writes that Naik is "strongly disliked" by many members of the Indian ulema for ignoring their authority and stating that anybody can interpret the Quran.[53] Conservative Deobandi mullahs have accused Naik of "destroying Islam" by driving Muslims away from the correct religious authorities.[53]
comparing Mr. Sina, who has presented rational, well-supported and well laid-out discourses vs. that sack of idiotic slime named Z. Naik is like comparing a functioning light bulb to a burnt out pile of ash.
Naik would not be the lightbulb.
wow…
That was a really good laugh!! Thank-You for posting it!!
Zakir is a total BS artist, and I reallt hope he has his 'lectures' listed at comedy clubs because our CAT knows more about science than he does!!
Still, a good chuckle!!
same deal as seeing Mary's face in a piece of burnt toast, basically…and some jackass paid $25,000 for it was my understanding.
islam is a thrice-damned cult, it was founded by a fraud and a liar, with an endless taste for murder and vile acts of perversion.
What he didn't misappropriate, he made up out of avarice and his delusions.
He was most likely schizophrenic.
islam is not a religion in any sense of the word, any more than scientology or mormonism, and please note the similarities in the founders of those cults to muhammad-the-abominable.
Look it up.
Took me five minutes to find references to that.
Well said!
glorious history…
you're referring to the bloodbaths and betrayals the deceiver and abomination of Humanity engaged in?
Glorious, yes…slave-taking, rape, murder, pedophilia…
Very glorious indeed.
You forgot to count the number of animals that die and get extinct. Soul can take rebirth in any form. At least that is what the reincarnation theory states.
Where? If you had . . . you had rammed it down the throat. . . simply repeating it is meaningless.
"then why are you supporting zakir naik who says every muslim should be terrorist? "
I have never claimed any support for Naik. However I don't think he has said anything of the sort either.
Also . . . despite whatever you allege what Naik has said (though you seem very attached to him) it has NO BEARINGS ON WHAT YOU SAY.
– – – –
"Don't you dare to do taqqiya . "
I have said this before . . . this is resorting to the type . . . when you run out of things to say . . . it is back to choice phrases.
– – –
"do you know under age hindu girls are kidnapped and forced to marry half dik muslim faggys .We will do the same to your sisters now "
People lik you . . . always justify such violence like this way . . . you are nothing more than a coward on the internet . . . a cowardly, pitiful little man.
How sad. . . . you haven't got guts to do anything.
You are extremely over-awed by Naik? Why?
"don't you support mullah zakir naik when he made the same statement?"
I have never heard Naik . . . Nor do I support any such statement – from anyone. You cannot justify your words . . . by alleging correlation to what Zakir Naik said. As they say . . . 2 wrongs don't make a right.
"Most of the indian muslims too support pakistan."
This is simply your claim . . . with no basis for truth at all.
" I have seen my own friends ,who are doing so well in the political arena and support pakistan. "
Do you know how – statements like these undermine what you have said earlier. . . ?
It is like paying a compliment to food – then saying you were tat hungry you could have eaten anything.
– – –
"some muslims create pakistan and kill all hindu minority in pakistan. It was 20% in 1947 now it is not even 1%. "
Again – this is a made up lie. . . . most Hindus simply ran for it. Mass migration. Else where is your evidence?
– – –
"Muslims wherever in minority act like angels but inside plotting to over throw democracy and install their schit medieval pisslamic ideology. "
Again . . . a self-contradictory statement. Also what is obvious is your incessant hate.
– – – –
You have no argument – other than spreading hate . . . . a jealous little man – lonely and sad . . . quite pathetic really.
But denialisnoproof, we've already made porn movies of your ammi ji, behn ji, abba ji and daadi ji. On earth and is freely available over the internet.
We told them to cover themselves in case the local villagers might recognize them,…………… so they kept their socks on! 😉
@denialisnoproof. Hasn't stopped you from fcuking your mother has it? And you are Hindu!
😀
They must have really fcuked your mother real bad then.
Thus the name you attach to them!
😉
You said it mate, not me.
No wonder you still live in your schithole and life is depressing for you. Your comments and views some it all up. And the worst part is, they say the exact same thing about you guys.
Swings and roundabouts.
Without any evidence to violence?
we had very good evidence for godhra.
We had very good evidence for kashmiri pandits killing
"Then you should denounce the extremist Hindus that are causing all this grievance."
explain this muslim intellect
Yes we hate pakistanis and also indian muslims . Both are mother f@ckers
Ali the problem with zakir chuthiya naik is using of theatrics and hoodwinking along with his muslim idiot audience .
You know what example he gave for existence of god?
Man can't give birth so god is uncreated .Do you see any connection ?
It is all logical fallacy .
just like egg shaped earth.
But if he debates in writing . then he will be shredded like a khyma.
Ask your zakir bhai to debate in writing .
"It's easy to throw 'stones' from behind a screen Ali Sina…..and a computer screen at that. "
How does it matter when all that needs to debate is exchange ideas.
Your zakir and his foolish followers just start clapping like idiots and every body start thinking that zakir choothiya won
kabaa the vagina is for rapists mo himself was a dirty rapist.
muzzies are cousin f@cking subhumans
don't you support mullah zakir naik when he made the same statement?
bartender is your allah who supplies you sharaban taharun
pure blend of liquor where your mother will be humped by 72 gigolos
We will make porn of your ammis screwing in heaven
It is not some muslims .Most of the indian muslims too support pakistan. I have seen my own friends ,who are doing so well in the political arena and support pakistan.
some muslims create pakistan and kill all hindu minority in pakistan. It was 20% in 1947 now it is not even 1%.
lahore was majority hindu city now no hindu lives there.
Muslims wherever in minority act like angels but inside plotting to over throw democracy and install their schit medieval pisslamic ideology.
You know why muslims wanted to stay in india?
because they knew pisslamic states are ruthless and women will be treated like commodities.
And also indian muzzies wanted to take over complete india and make hindus secondary citizens in their own nation .
The so called secular muslims maulana abdu kalam azad told that islam won't accept any thing in part it needs full.
Muzzies if you love islam more than the country why don't you f@ck of to sharia infected islamic schit holes?
then why are you supporting zakir naik who says every muslim should be terrorist?
Don't you dare to do taqqiya .
India was divided in the name of islamic utopian shcit hole called pakistan.
do you know under age hindu girls are kidnapped and forced to marry half dik muslim faggys .We will do the same to your sisters now
There you go . . . see how you selective and limited your love is. First you make a general statement of 'love'. . . then begin to add specifications.
Like i said . . . this is an anti-Islam site – if this was anti-Christian Vs Hindus site . . . then your love would fade away . . .
– – – –
"first of all muslims are not entitled to live in india as they got their own nation in 1947 so why don't they f@ck off their ? "
Why repeat this . . . just because some Muslims chose to create a separate Nation – how does that equate to all Muslims?
Then there is your incessant justification for violence – and use of extreme language.
" Even hindus should be terrorist against traitors who support paksitan staying in india. "
You repeatedly justify . . . violence. Indicative of all hate mentality.
Vagina kissing mullah.
Don't you know muhammad f@cked dead body of ali's mother ?
you are one big pervert umma
following child rapist muhammad
But you denialisnoproof, fcuked your mother to death along with your granny, father, sister, wife and children. You didn't spare anyone in your household. You fcuked them all to death, that is why you are now drinking away your sorrows in alcohol as a loner.
The worst part is, you let your drunken friends do it to them as well, day in and day out.
😀
Looks like it's back to teri maa di puudi verses again for you denialisnoproof. You asked for it. You obviously miss the daily dose
When your ammi jaan comes back from the ruundi house, make sure the white horse is waiting in the barn for her so she can give it a quick choosa whilst you fistfcuk your abba's a@@ and your sister is giving you head. Once you've shott your load, in your sisters mouth, get ammi jaan to snowball her whilst abba ji urinates in their mouths and don't forget to bring your cow god in for the blessing ritual. Mix it's urine in a bucket and then share the drinks in a pint glass and drink up.
Once you are done drinking, start schagging ammi jaan whilst she licks out sister jee and abba sahib is giving it to you from behind.
Once done, go to local mandir and pooja shiva's lunn and kiss it goodbye for the night.
Kidding yourself was about you claiming to not worshipping anything all the whilst being an idol worshipping Hindu from India!
Are you seriously so thick, you couldn't understand it?
Never mind. Not your fault.
I'd stick to trying to understand Hindi rather than English, if I were you Raj the dung worshipper. Because clearly English, comprehension and basic common sense are not your strong points.
Why do you Indians and Pakistanis always mention each others countries? Do you guys seriously hate each other that much?
cousin f@cking muzzie. your prophet mo's mother was wh0re in kaba the brothel . muhammad was born long after the the death of his father abdullah.
prophet's mother was prostitut3 in brothel called kaba where evvery one used to run along naked to enjoy 0rgy
Do you work there Julia? You said you was a pretty lady, so how much?
Brothels and you, are like fish to water.
Even hindus should be terrorist against traitors who support paksitan staying in india.
Against mullahs who sell their under age children to sheiks in return of petro dollars.
Also agianst people like ajmal kasab.
AND against muslims
And also we should be terrorist against cousin humping pakistan and their subhuman followers
So don't moan when you get your a@@es whooped, dik worshipper.
You still here Julius?
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY LOGICAL ARGUMENT OF YOURS.
OT ONLY IN YOUR DREAMS !
YOU ARE LIKE YOUR EVIL FAKE PROPHET ,THE INSANE CAMEL (FUKCER) MOHAMMED !!
BY THE WAY , YOU PROMISED ALLAH TO BLOW YOURSELF UP, PEACEFULLY OG COURSE ….DON'T GORGET IT !!! HAHAHA !!!
MO I'M NOT KIDIING !!
ALIF,LAM LIM. !! (SURAH2:1)
I, ALLAH AND MOHAMMED REALLY WANT YOU TO BLOW UP YOURSELF .
DO IT ….DON'T WAIT , BE A GOOD AND PEACEFUL MUSLIM.
BYE !!!! 😉
Stupid Ali the Muslim
I know you are exercising your freedom of choice. Your dull wit did not register my advice as a suggestion in your brain. As one more option. An option whereby the Muslims would really turn peaceful and not for namesake.
Islam by its very nature is evil and violent. I gave you a suggestion to help you to prove that it is otherwise. You did not accept the suggestion and instead you are exercising your freedom of choice. Good!
Cousin humper
are you high on camel urine?
ask your abba to cok your moms dead body
like mo did to ali's dead mother
You drunk on the urine again today?
Never mind, coffee and a curry should do the trick.
You're only kidding yourself Mr Julian.
Keep moving!
OH, BY THE WAY … WHY DID YOU STILL NOT BLOW UP YOURSELF AS A PEACEFUL MUSLIM SHOULD . YOUR FAKE GOD ALLAH ( =MOHAMMED) WILL NOT BE PLEASED WITH YOU !! DO IT QUICKLY….GO TO YOUR HELL HOLE BROTHEL !!
islam is not a religion it is a parallel govt by pedo mullahas and cousin humping sub humans
YOU REALLY ARE A PEACEFUL MUSLIM !!!
YOU SHOW IT !
Your muhammad drank holy camel urine.
go read your hadiths jackass
i know you like to get humped by donkey.
Are you retard born out of cousin marriage?
No need to backtrack Raj.
You are the one that keeps digging yourself into a deeper hole when talking, and I'm just here to put people like you, the enemies of civilizations, into check.
It's a schitty job, but someone has to do it.
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In like a lion, out like a lamb.
IT WAS A LOGICAL FALLACY , RETARDED MUSLIM !! BUT YOU TRY TO ESCAPE AND FIND A WAY OUT ! YOU ARE RIDICULOUS !!!
INTELLECTUAL MUSLIM .??….. MY A$S !
I WORSHIP NOTHING , BACKWARD MUSLIM . NO DUNG AND CERTAINLY NO STONE LIKE YOU MUSLIMS DO !
A BLACK STONE INTHE FORM OF A VAGINA !!! AND EVEN KISSING IT,
CRAZY MUZZIES !! HAHAHA !!
REAL ISLAMIC INTELLECTUALS !!
GOOD GOD ! ( NOT THE FAKE GOD ALLAH OF COURSE 😉 ) .
@denialisnoproof. And which urine do you guys drink day in and day out?………………Oh yes, your own and cow's urine.
Heck, the government of India has launched a campaign to manufacture cow's urine as a drink commercially. Hindus like you consider cow as a holy God and its urine as a divine drink.
What a fking retard.
Amaroli man, amaroli!
I love christians and christianity . But when they say all those who are not following jesus are going to hell then I won't disagree with them .
Many christians told me that we worship monkey and etc . I didn't get offended . I know that the monkey "hanuman " is not worshipped because he is a monkey but because of his qualities.
But when it comes to muslims I like to deal in their own way ,if they burn our people in train we are going to give it back to them.
first of all muslims are not entitled to live in india as they got their own nation in 1947 so why don't they f@ck off their ?
I am not a pacifist but i am a reasonable person , if you are killing people just because they are not muslims we cant tolerate it.
You can't follow non violence with mosquitoes.
MK gandhi
Of course we are denialisnoproof ,the dik sucker.
You couldn't even arrange a piiss up in a brewery!
'mark my words'…………loooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll!
xD
I don't think so dik worshipper. The only thing you will cut is your 2mm dik, when you go for your sex change!
"I ll cut you like we did in gujurat"
More inciting of violence on your part. This is a direct threat.
There you – inciting violence. It speaks for itself. The problem with inciting violence with such hypothetical situation is – that you are prepared to "kill" . . . without any evidence of any violence.
Meaningless counter-violence to violence – is wrong either way.
"You can't expect us to be all angels when you kill entire population of pandits in kashmir
you had to face retribution. "
This is of course. . . a complete farcical lie. If the entire pundits were as you claim – massacred – why are they doing so well? And flourishing?
Shouldn't they have been extinct?
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"Yes I agree that muslims are the largest sufferers in
kashmir that is because you are sympathizers for islamist schit eater called mohammad shah gilani"
You language and tone reveal a lot! So you justify Muslim suffering?
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" I gave you the sentence that you wrote. "
No you didn't – you are quoting it now . . . for some reason. Without making any further point.
You are the chosen ones to eat schit and drink camel urine
I ll cut you like we did in gujurat
you are schit eater islamist . that's what you are .
We are suffering in the hands of mohammadan goons.
this war is not just an ideological war .
If one more godra or kashmir incident happens scores of you are going to die . take my word
"As for as mankind is concerned we love people of all faiths. "
BS. Given your many illustrious comments . . . those who do 'love' humanity – you are simply not included in that 'we'.
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"Look at how zorastrians living in india. look at how jews are living in india. look at buddhists from china. "
There are not many Zoroastrians or Jews in India. It is very telling that you did not point to either Christians or Sikhs. Two larger groups that have faced – the Hindu brutality.
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"Only problem to humanity is islam and mohammads schit ideology "
See – when you spread hatred towards one particular religion . . . then this open up the possibility that – when it comes to Hinduism Vs Christian – say for the sake of argument – your attitude is likely to be the same.
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There is way to disagree . . . and make your points well – without resorting to hate mongering. . . like Sina.
So why is it . . . that your fellow Hindu brothers are so keen to employ such opprobrious methods?
I gave you the sentence that you wrote.
"Then you should denounce the extremist Hindus that are causing all this grievance."
You can't expect us to be all angels when you kill entire population of pandits in kashmir
you had to face retribution.
Yes I agree that muslims are the largest sufferers in
kashmir that is because you are sympathizers for islamist schit eater called mohammad shah gilani
Seems my above reply did not go well with you.
We are not the accursed ones. We are the blessed ones and humble.
The Muslims are hypocrites,. bullies and the cursed ones.
The one true God tests us humans – but we have faith in Him – He has not abandoned us.
Finally God is showing us signs of Hope. Muslims killing each other in the name of Islam. We have to only wait and watch for Islam to be finished.
As humans, still we are trying to extricate some of the Muslims from this mess. At least good ones among the Muslims need to be rescued.
What did i say . . . those that run out of an argument – or at the end of their intelligence – simply resort to verbal abuse.
This is translated into violence too.
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"do you know about intellectual dishonesty "
Given your actions . . . the thing is it emphasizes how right I am . . . else you would have brought forth a counter argument – which you couldn't manage.
If you are unwilling to read history, Raj the dung sniffer. Then why on earth are you harping on about Mohammed and Islam from 1400 years ago?
You even thicker than I had envisaged.
Stick to current timeframe then dumba@@. In today's world, we are a major force, are growing year in and year out, will be here until the end of times, are the Truth and real deal and are the 'chosen' ones. That is why you guys are so scared the world over.
You on the other hand are, the accursed ones with the curse of God, Mankind and Angels on you collectively, are deaf, dumb and blind, are classed and known as the ignorants, (not me saying all this but God Himself) and rely on anti Muslim sites for your evidence.
Not looking good for you is it Raj?
Yes We are greatest enemies to islam as we are never going to accept it and never will india become islamic country.
As for as mankind is concerned we love people of all faiths.
Look at how zorastrians living in india. look at how jews are living in india. look at buddhists from china.
Only problem to humanity is islam and mohammads schit ideology
Need not read go into the past – need not read history.
Here is something from the present. The data of daily Islamic terror attacks and their victims. Daily to monthly basis. You may read this sitting on your Islamic throne aka lavatory using your laptop.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Weekly Jihad Report
Aug . 25 – Aug. 31
Jihad Attacks:
58
Allahu Akbars*:
3
Dead Bodies:
220
Critically Injured:
187
*Suicide Attacks
Read the rest from the above site.
And if you want one more site – read from historyofjihad.org to your heart's content about Islamic terrorism.
"Then you should denounce the extremist Hindus that are causing all this grievance."
do you know about intellectual dishonesty
"cousin f@cker"
See . . . when you run out of argument . . it is back to good ole stock phrases.
Did I not say quote facts and not your lavatory sitting session stories?
Read the history of terrorism to get a brighter picture, dimwit?
Obviously touched a sore nerve whilst exposing you evil Hindu.
Why should we? Because you said?
It's called Freedom of Choice and Freedom of Movement.
Islam is peace by it's very nature.
And who said we are intellectual giants? (compared to the likes of you and your Guru Ali Sina yes, but nothing compared to the great scholars of Islam)
// He could never ban his Hindu fan following brethren. He must keep them all by numbers to spew the venom. //
What I cannot understand is when the moron Ali the Muslim and aminriadh knows that they themselves are intellectual giants and there are only handful of people defending Ali Sina – then why bother showing their intellectualism to these handful people? Why do not these two intellectual morons enlighten their own muslim brethren about the peace in Islam? Why dont they preach to the Taliban and Al Qaeda and show them the real peaceful version of what Islam is?
We agree and admit that we may not have your level of information/knowledge. So why dont you two use your intellects to further 'peace" by doing something positive in Pakistan and Afghanistan? By asking your Sunni brothers to desist from pulling out shias from buses and killing them? Or by not killing the peaceful Ahamadiyyas.
Surely Zakir Naik and you two should spend your time and energy on these morons to tell these bastard Muslim terrorists that Islam is not what they are doing. That they are tarnishing the name of Islam.
The rest of the world can take a leaf out of your peace missions.
Aminriadh all sugar and Ali all poison. This is called Islamic taqiyya.
The two faced lie.
Ali the stupid Muslim –
The Muslim morons are the common denominators – any terror attack anywhere in the world currently more than 90% of it can be laid at the door of Islam.
It all began with Mohammad the terrorist prophet of Islam.
@Raj the dung sniffer. Since when? Please educate us on this common denominator, going back to the first recorded terrorist attack in history and work your way up detailing who and what.
Please enlighten us (with facts please and not your home made whilst sitting on the lavatory stories).
Don't worry aminriadh, I'll gladly abuse the usual suspects you've named. You continue with the intellectual responses, whilst I on the other hand will publicly demean them and expose them for what they are in languages they all understand and are accustomed to. I have no qualms doing this.
I will fight fire with fire.
He could never ban his Hindu fan following brethren. He must keep them all by numbers to spew the venom.
Ali Sina needs their support to survive, unless Julia done a Monica Lewinski on him to get reinstated! I won't be surprised.
"The one common denominator in terrorism worldwide – No prize for correctly guessing. And still advising others to quit extremism. "
Really . . . if it isn't nonsense – then its riddles. Are you capable of articulation?
Why is it none of your fellow Hindu brother are?
There is you . . . then 'denialisnoproof', then 'Joker Life' – and then there was this other character . . . . er . . . . 'knowTheEnemy'
Not – one is able to hold a civil conversation . . . articulate his/her thoughts clearly . . . and not resort to petty spiels of meaningless insults.
Standards of literacy are poor in India . . . but surely that is no excuse.
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"Stop advising others to stop being extremists. Look at yourselves. "
Would you care to name . . . one person I have verbally or otherwise abused?
Unlike you fellow Hindu brother above.
"how shamelessly you claim that all grievance is caused by hindus? "
The projected lie – simply comes from you . . . I have made no such claims.
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"if we kill mozies for treason most of mozies in india will be dead "
If you ponder – your own words and actions on this site . . . how are you not an extremist and a hate monger?
A civil conversation with such trolls is meaningless . . . as you tend to resort to insults.
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"I agree that there are extremist hindus . but they are reactionaries. "
Not all . . . and extremism is is extremism – you can claim that for many Muslims – but its hardly an excuse.
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"what about 4 lak people who were brutally thrown out of their homes from kashmir. "
The biggest suffering group in Kashmir – has always been the Muslims . . . I have first hand experience of this. As my family originates from there.
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"you muslims created a sl@t nation called pakistan .why didnt all muslis go there? "
You can barely spell. . . or string a sentence together. Nevertheless – just because Pakistan was created as separate nation – hardly means all Muslims have to reside there.
After all . . . despite the religion change . . . most people there are natives of that land. Albeit – many were the lowest caste – and converted to Islam.
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"there has only 4 to 5 extremist hindu attacks but muzzie fanaticism has no bound "
Well . . . look at the incessant hate emanating from you . . . I suspect you – yourself are defender of such Hindu "extremist" or am I wrong?
You know full well – there have been far more than 4 or 5 attacks.
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" Do you know how many times somnath mandir was demolished by mozie invaders. "
Rather than . . . being a "troll" – why don't you attempt at enlighten us . . . with solid history?
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The only person you are kidding Mr Julia aka Julian aka Hindu from India, is yourself! Not a woman, but you're a bloke from a schit infested village somewhere in India.
Did you beat your bishop today like you always do? Go find out what beating the bishop means, dimwit 😀
Only Hindus are such glutens for punishment. Now go and ask Durga for a hand job so, you can keep beating your bishop!
Funny thing is . . . apparently Sina banned this individual . . . well – what is one more lie to the count, eh.
YOU HAVE NO CASE ALI BABA , BECAUSE I AM VERY PRETTY ACTUALLY !!! HAHAHA !!
BUT I AM SURE YOU LOOK LIKE THE EVIL MORONS ON THE THAT FOTO !!
THEY (ND YOU) MUST EMULATE YOUR INSANE CAMEL ( AL INSAN AL KAMIL) THE FAKE PROPHET MOHAMMED ! YOUR RETARDED PROPHET REALLY MUST HAVE LOOKED LIKE THESE UGLY MUSLIMS ,SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY HE HAD ( ALMOST) NO CHILDREN ….HIS YOUNG WIVES MUST HAVE BEEN DISCUGUSTED OF HIM !!!! HAHAHA !!
BY THE WAY ,ALI, DID YOU BEAT YOUR WIVES TODAY, OR WERE THE DEVOUTLY OBEDIENT ? ( SURAH 4:34 😉 )). IF YOU DID, YOU SURE ARE A HERO , HAHAHA !!!
O.K. MUSLIMS ARE NOT AS STUPID AS HINDU'S , YOU SAY ALI BABA !! ??
SO,WITH THIS, YOU ADMIT CLEARLY THAT YOU MUSLIMS ARE STUPID ANYWAY !!!!
NOW A SURPRISE FOR YOU: I JULIA AM NOT A HINDU AND CERTAINLY NOT A MUSLIM OF COURSE…….I AM NOT STUPID YOU KNOW . HAHAHA !!!
I AM A REAL "UNBELIEVER"….THAT IS : I DON'T BELIEVE IN A GOD, RELIGION ETC.
BUT EVERYONE IS FREE TO BELIEVE WHAT HE WANTS AS LONG AS IT IS NOT EVIL.
BUT CULT OF ISLAM IS EVIL…VERY EVIL . SO 7th CENTURY ISLAM MUST AND WILL BE DESTROYED !!!
THÁT IS WHAT I BELIEVE !!!!! HAHAHA !
You are a Muslim
For all you do is hate!
The one common denominator in terrorism worldwide – No prize for correctly guessing. And still advising others to quit extremism.
You should be decorated with a Nobel prize – which Nobel himself had invented – dynamite. Ka boom!
Stop advising others to stop being extremists. Look at yourselves.
Have you seen your face in the mirror Julia?
I rest my case.
We already have shown our Muslim supremacy and will keep showing it on this site and the world over until the end of days.
Suck on that Julia!
Not as stupid as you Hindu's. That's for sure.
Fck off now and get back to your dik worshipping, like the rest of them.
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It's easy to throw 'stones' from behind a screen Ali Sina…..and a computer screen at that.
Shame you cannot back up what you say with a full on live debate for millions to see worldwide. But we all know the answer to that don't we?
When will you ever come out of your diapers? I've never seen someone so scared in all my life, not even in the movies! Your own SION members sit back wondering in disbelief about how scared you are in facing the world and especially Muslims, all under the pretence of blah blah blah.
Move to the hen pen!
@Julia. I said it plenty of times, that this schitty site was littered with Hindu's jumping on the bandwagon and you guys were the masses on here holding the monopoly being the No 1 Sina fans. After all, you guys are the greatest of enemies to Muslims and mankind, so it goes hand in hand really.
Don't quote a fallacy which is way above your pay grade and out of your league. Stick to the basics!
Oh well….
THIS BRAINWASHED CETIN SAYS :
"All praises are for you Allah, I know that you are near. "
YOU KNOW THAT YOUR FAKE GOD IS NEAR ????
PROVE IT YOU RETARD !!! YOY SAY YOU ….KNOW !!!!
MAN ARE THESE MUSLIMS STUPID !!!!
I.K. AMIN-RAT : SHOW YOUR GTANT INTELLIGENCE.
SHOW YOUR MUSLIM-SUPREMACY !!! HAHAHA !
I MADE SOME TYPE-MISTAKES !!
YEP !! AMINRAT …DO YOU SEE THEM ? HAHAHA !!
START THINKING FOR YOURSELF , MUSLIM-SLAVE !!!
"I think you need to get over this over-awe of Naik . . . . who is simply a media personality."
YEAH !! GET OVER IT , THIS NAIK IS JUST A SIMPLE EVIL MUSLIM BASTARD !
"so you are the one intellectual here only that make sense ?"
Doh! – Obviously.
SEE YOU MUST LISTEN TO THIS ARROGANT MUSLIM BASTARD CALLED
"AMIN RAT ". HE IS A REAL QUASI INOELLECTUAL.
OH…AND YES I AM STILL HERE !! HAHAHA !!!
TO THE MUSLIM-SLAVE "ALI ".
ALWAYS POINTING AT OTHERS ! HEY..STUPID MUSLIM ! ( IN YOUR PARTING "GIFT" ) .
AGAIN AND AGAIN THE SAME LOGICAL FALLACY OF "TU QUOQUE ". !
MAN…..ARE YOU RETARDED !!!
LOOK AT THE "PEACEFUL" AND "INTELLIGENT "FACES OF THE MUSLIMS ON THE FOTO ABOVE THIS ARTICLE !!
ARE THESE HUMAN BEINGS ? NO !!
THESE ARE EVIL ANIMALS "CREATED" BY THE EVIL FAKE GOD ALLAH OR RATHER BY THE INSANE CAMEL MOHAMMED HINSELF !!!
TO THE BACKWRD AND RETARDED "MUSLIMAH".
YOUR ALLAH HATES US UNBELIEVERS ! HE WILL CERTAINLY NOT GUIDE US .
SURAH 2:98 SAYS: "Whoever is the enemy of Allah and His angels and His apostles and Jibreel and Meekaeel, so SURELY ALLAH IS THE ENEMY OF THE UNBELTEVERS."
DO YOU SEE IT …YOU MORON ?? SO YOU ARE OUR ENEMY TOO !!
ISLAM IS A VERY "PEACEFU"L RELIGION INDEED , HMMMMM !
BUT WE ARE LUCKY. WHY ? YOUR FAKE GOD DOES NOT EXIST !!
YOU HAVE A 7TH CENTURIY MINDSET !!
WHAT YOU NEED IS A HEAVY BEATING BY YOUR HUSBAND , STUPID AND SILLY WOMAN!!! ( PER SURAH 4:34). HAHAHA !!!!
VERY GOOD !!!
MUSLIMS ARE THE TRAITORS AMONG US !!
DANGEROUS TRAITORS !
THE SMILE AT YOU ( "INFIDELS"), BUT IN THEIR HEARTS THEY CURSE YOU !!!
VERY EVIL INDEED !!!
TO HELL WITH ISLAM !!!
[youtube F630rQ2lrWU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F630rQ2lrWU youtube]
Zakir naik explaining geo spherical earth model according oli qquraan .
MIRACLE OF QURAN
ENJOY
how do you know size of my dik ?
did your halal sister say it to you?
you know your sister is halal for me
Why only muslims should terrorize terrorist?
Don't we know ajmal kasab was a muslim and a terrorist , shouldn't we terrorize muslims then? According to your idiot zakir naiks idea?
That is the delusion of you Muslims. I saw the debate and I saw how Muslims rejoiced believing Zakir Naik won that debate. I then analyzed every paragraph of that debate and the result is this book. When you read this book you can see Naik was the loser. Every argument of this man is a fallacy.
muhammad spread this ca@p that pisslam is also abrahamic religion.
but the fact is muhammad and his plagiarizing schits were spit by jews.
muhammad was a rapist ,pedophile.
what you said when it is accepted norm by all society ?
balls every country is fighting against it, only pisslamic societies are following child f@cking sunna of muhammad .
you are not follower of abraham you are just a slave of allah the figment of psycho rapist muhammad
@denialisnoproof. Jews, Christians and Muslims belong to the same Abrahamic family of Faith. Didn't anyone ever tell you this?
Even in the Bible according to Genesis, God told Abraham to circumcise himself, his household and his slaves as an everlasting covenant in their flesh. Those who were not circumcised were to be ‘cut off’ from their people (Genesis 17:10 14). The exact words are:
9 Then God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. 10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. 12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”
Since the Mosaic Law commands that if a woman give birth to a male child, he should be circumcised in the foreskin of his flesh on the eighth day (Lev. 12:2-3). The exact words are:
The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Say to the Israelites: ‘A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period. 3 On the eighth day the boy is to be circumcised.
We are the followers of Abraham, so naturally we are upholding the covenant you silly kunt.
How thick do you have to be, to be a Hindu? At least try and talk sense.
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You got some nerve asking for a BJ when you cannot find the damn thing. All 2mm of it that is. Do you carry tweezers and magnifying glass with you in case you need find it when you need to urinate?
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your allah can suck my kock
how shamelessly you claim that all grievance is caused by hindus?
if we kill mozies for treason most of mozies in india will be dead
Right . when you mozies do terrorist attack you project it as trivial.
who is ajmal kasab?
what about 4 lak people who were brutally thrown out of their homes from kashmir.
you cry like prostitutes when babri was demolished. Do you know how many times somnath mandir was demolished by mozie invaders.
I agree that there are extremist hindus . but they are reactionaries.
you muslims created a sl@t nation called pakistan .why didnt all muslis go there?
there has only 4 to 5 extremist hindu attacks but muzzie fanaticism has no bound
but you did because jews did . there was no rationality in that.
"so you are the one intellectual here only that make sense ?"
Doh! – Obviously.
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" Zakir naik didnt said it differently, he clearly shouted two words together and appealed the choice to choose the religion. If i am a dumb enough to understand, then one can easily guess how muslim will interpret such sayings. "
And . . . . what of it? You don't even know what Naik actually said . . or why it matters. I think you need to get over this over-awe of Naik . . . . who is simply a media personality.
"but i am worried about my country who is being attacked in the name of religion. "
Then you should denounce the extremist Hindus that are causing all this grievance.
so you are the one intellectual here only that make sense ? Zakir naik didnt said it differently, he clearly shouted two words together and appealed the choice to choose the religion. If i am a dumb enough to understand, then one can easily guess how muslim will interpret such sayings.
Could very. well be, but we will never know.
That is why we can go to sleep knowing full well our conscience is clear.
you tried to justify what zakir naik said but It clearly indicates Tit for Tat and If we indians go with zakir naik's logic, it should be like india should vanish all non-hindu people because they did attack us in the past.
I dont know what americans and russians did to create such monsters, but i am worried about my country who is being attacked in the name of religion.
you said –
"How are you so sure the India attacks are not by Hindus and Muslims together or other sets of people in order to cause chaos and divide and rule systems?"
What makes you so sure ?? UK, USA, Russia, India and even in Pakistan everywhere there are set of people who does attack but set up only muslims. is it ??
@denialisnoproof. And what about the majority of American males who are doing it? What are they and where will they go?
Most recently, the Centers for Disease control used the Charge Data Master (CDM) from SDI Health to estimate that 54.7% of American newborn males were circumcised in 2010.
They are not all Muslim and Jews, are they?
No terrorist act is justified and the ones in India are sickening. But the definition of terrorist and terrorism in this current climate is being hijacked and used for personal agendas.
This is the problem. It is one rule for one and one rule for another.
Exactly who created Osama and what was he when he was fighting Americas dirty war by proxy against the Russians? Why wasn't he a terrorist then?
How are you so sure the India attacks are not by Hindus and Muslims together or other sets of people in order to cause chaos and divide and rule systems? India is the largest democracy in the world, which doesn't sit well with a lot of people around the world, but Muslims for one thing couldn't give a toss (except for Pakistan), but you guys have been at war with each other since the partition. Both, India and Pakistan are full of schit in this regard.
Ah . . . . you simply repeated your earlier spiel . . . rather than dealing with the actual argument.
Poor – very poor.
I asked you to explain – what is choosing region over religion or vice versa – as the two clearly are not analogous.
If you had answered . . . therein might have laid your answer.
it is the muslims who cut their lingam hahahah
halal cut . 😀
mohammad thought jews will go to even because they circumsize their penis
so muhammad also cut his 😀
@ali
You think I am failed to understand what zakir naik said, so the billions did including muslims. that is why zakir naik has to appear on news channel to clarify what he said about osama and terrorism ?
This is what you clarified earlier on act of osama and terrorism:
"Zakir Naik said that he would not criticise bin Laden because he had not met him and did not know him personally. He added that, "If bin Laden is fighting enemies of Islam, I am for him," and that "If he is terrorizing the terrorist, if he is terrorizing America – the terrorist, biggest terrorist – I am with him. Every Muslim should be a terrorist. The thing is that if he is terrorizing the terrorist, he is following Islam. Whether he is or not, I don’t know, but you as Muslims know that, without checking up, laying allegations is also wrong."
^^ Do you know how many times osama has appeared on Al Jajira Channel threatening the world? Is this the real face of all muslims ?? Are you trying to justify that terrorist attacks on india are right too ??
Back tracking again are we?
This time you have used the 'no true scotsman' fallacy. You made what could be called an appeal to purity as a way to dismiss relevant criticisms or flaws of your argument concerning Zakir Naik and terrorism.
In this form of faulty reasoning your belief is rendered unfalsifiable because no matter how compelling the evidence is, you simply shift the goalposts so that it wouldn't apply to a supposedly 'true' example. This kind of post-rationalization is a way of avoiding valid criticisms of one's argument.
Hasn't anyone ever told you not to open a can of worms?
I thought you was leaving this God forsaken site?
I think when terrorism strikes and kills innocent people, media and news channel must provide the definition of terrorism what they are referring to, right ?
By showing statics you are showing what terrorist attack means.
And so what if he said it. Was it not the Truth?
Do you have problems with understanding what he said? I sure don't.
Here it is, just to refresh your memory:
Zakir Naik said that he would not criticise bin Laden because he had not met him and did not know him personally. He added that, "If bin Laden is fighting enemies of Islam, I am for him," and that "If he is terrorizing the terrorist, if he is terrorizing America – the terrorist, biggest terrorist – I am with him. Every Muslim should be a terrorist. The thing is that if he is terrorizing the terrorist, he is following Islam. Whether he is or not, I don’t know, but you as Muslims know that, without checking up, laying allegations is also wrong."
When Time magazine hinted that this remark could have inspired Najibullah Zazi's terrorist activities, Naik insisted: "I have always condemned terrorism, because according to the glorious Quran, if you kill one innocent person, then you have killed the whole of humanity"
Exactly where is your problem here? Please enlighten us and then digest the following:
Terrorism comes from the French word terrorisme, and originally referred specifically to state terrorism as practiced by the French government during the Reign of terror.
The French word terrorisme in turn derives from the Latin verb terreō meaning “I frighten”. The terror cimbricus was a panic and state of emergency in Rome in response to the approach of warriors of the Cimbri tribe in 105 BC.
Ever heard of Sergey Nechayev?
Furthermore, did not the British label George Washington a terrorist? Or was that different because no 'Muslims' were involved during that period?
And finally, just so that you can have some peace of mind, my parting gift to you:
An FBI statistic shows:
42% of terrorist acts in USA were done by LATINOS
24% by Left Wing Groups
16% Other (?)
7% by Jewish People
6% by Muslims
5% by Communists !!!
Take that to the bank.
If zakir naik can decipher and explain your holly book in simple words, why dont he say everything in simple manner ? where is his responsibility when he says indian muslim to choose religion over region ?
I know you will prove the same point again, but he gave example of Bin laden when he talked about terrorism. After saying this openly, you need an english dictionary to save your back ….
Zakir Naik have been invited many times by Vedic Followers to have live debate on Astha Channel. But he never responded. Although he talk about prediction of Mohammed prophesy in Veda. http://satyagni.com/debate-islam/
Another one of Ali Sina's debunks is it?
I've actually seen the debate and Zakir Naik absolutely shredded Campbell, just like he would shred you, thus your reluctance to openly debate. You would say exactly what Campbell said. 'I don't know about that, I will have to get back to you on that after I check my that'.
And rightfully so!
Forget the video on youtube, I've actually seen the whole segment on Peace TV. And so what, he is right. Why don't you explain the actual context of what he states? All Muslims should be terrorists for who? Why don't you actually speak the Truth for once or will that be going against your grain?
In 2010, Naik said that he had been quoted out of context regarding the remarks on terrorism. "As far as terrorist is concerned," he said, "I tell the Muslims that every Muslim should be a terrorist. … What is the meaning of the word terrorist? Terrorist by definition means a person who terrorises. So in this context every Muslim should be a terrorist to each and every anti-social element. I’m aware that terrorist is more commonly used for a person who terrorises innocent human beings. So in this context no Muslim should ever terrorise a single innocent human being."
As far as your country is concerned, your country is not going to get you salvation is it? Would you denounce India for Hinduism or would you denounce Hinduism for India?
Personally, I think your country is a schithole, but that's my opinion and I couldn't care less who you supported. Country or Religion. Whether you trust your neighbour or friend is your prerogative. It's not for me to decide.
Your argument of region and religion is idiotic. . . . one is a belief and a value system . . . the other is simply where you live and belong. Then two are not analogous. . . . and very different things.
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"If zakir naik is so called scholar, every muslim should be terrorist according to him."
This is one – badly worded sentence. If you are going to put all that time in commenting – why not put a little bit more effort to ensure – what you say makes some sense.
As per Zakir Naik Mahatma Gandhi, Mother Teressa etc would be in hell till eternity because they were non-believer in Mohammed.
If zakir naik is so called scholar, every muslim should be terrorist according to him. you can check the video on youtube.
In another video he says when there is a choice between religion and region, muslim must choose religion. so, should i trust my muslim friends now when we are sharing the same region ?
Is Islam a religion or is it a state?
To Muslims the answer is clear. It is both. But when they come to the west they hide the second part of it and demand religious protection. No religious protection should be given to Muslims because Islam is a political system that is at odds with democracy and the political system of non-Muslim countries. Therefore, allowing Muslims freedom to practice their religion is the same as allowing an enemy ideology to penetrate and destroy our governments. Democratic countries have banned Nazism and many of them have banned communism. That is the reason I am asking the Islam be banned as well, precisely because of what you say. Yes Islam is a political system disguised as religion.
Civilized countries have separated religion from state. The basis of this separation is in Jesus’s words who said give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and give to God what belongs to God. Muhammad wanted to use religion to rule over people. This mixing of religion and temporal power is the source of dictatorship in all Islamic countries. Religious leaders rule with iron fist and abuse others in the name of God and there is nothing anyone can do about it because all truth and all the force is with them. They have accumulated the three powers of state in their hands.
Yes, any state needs a constitution. If Islam is a state then Muslims in non-Muslim countries must decide between Islam and their host country. If they choose to pay their loyalty to the state of Islam they have to get out of these countries.
I don’t have any objection with what you say. In fact that is the point I want to make clear to everyone. Islam is a political system with its own constitution and Muslims cannot be loyal to any country and system that is not Islamic. They are traitors among us. The sooner this matter becomes clear to everyone the sooner we can take care of our enemy and send him back to where he belongs.
Thank you for pointing that out all in capital letter.
I HAVE SOME GREAT QUESTION FOR MR. SIANA EVERY COUNTRY HAVE A CONSITUION THAT CAN DEFINE THE ALL STRUCTURE OF COUNTRY WITHOUT STRUCTER LIFE IS NOT LIFE.YOU SUGGEST ME A RELEGION THAT CAN I AM FOLLOW ME.IF YOU ARE NOT SUGGEST ME ACCORDING TO LAW I AM CLAIMED MY MONEY FOR U.BECAUSE WE ARE NEED A SYSTEM OF LIFE.IF WE HAVE NO SYSTEM THAT IS CLEAR WE HAVE NO LIFE.
"Please ezplain ezcactly: How does this prove atheists are in disagrement.??? "
huh?
I don't understand the language of that . . . or why you posed it here in the first place . . . or what has this got to do with anything – that I have claimed or said.
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Why should some random bit of . . . prove: "How does this prove atheists are in disagrement.??? "
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Not another one . . . . please! I know sane people don't visit this site much. . . but there has to be someone who can string a sentences together!?
You have a very interesting link.
But will you please explain this from this link:
:"Auf steigt der Strahl, und fallend gießt
Er voll der Marmorschale Rund,
Die, sich verschleiernd, überfließt
In einer zweiten Schale Grund;
Die zweite gibt, sie wird zu reich,
Der dritten wallend ihre Flut,
Und jede nimmt und gibt zugleich
Und strömt und ruht."
against this:
"Mae'r hen delynau genid gynt
Ynghrog ar gangau'r helyg draw,
A gwaedd y bechgyn lond y gwynt,
A'u gwaed yn gymysg efo'r glaw."
Please ezplain ezcactly: How does this prove atheists are in disagrement.???
"allah" is a fictional sock-puppet created by mohamet (pig$hit be upon him). He has no power to do anything.
Wise up and join the modern world.
Or not, and perish along with your execrable cult.
islam will be eradicated. MARK MY WORDS.
What is this? xD. Have you not read 21:107?
"And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds."
The word "worlds" here is "عالمين" (the lam in front of it simply means, for, in the qur'an)
The word "عالمين" is a plural form of ""عالم" which derives from ""علم." This verb means, "to know."
"عالم" literally means "the ones who know." or civilization. The plural of عالم is عالمين which means civilizations or literally (the ones who know)s.
But, you already knew all that, did you not mr. ex-muslim?
TROLOLOL.
Nonetheless, I'll explain the whole "warner" thing for you. The Qur'an is very clear on this matter, but hey, uou probably just missed it during your very in depth Qur'anic studies eh? That must be it!
Allah sent down Messengers (even established a covenant with the hebrews) and warners to all nations. Muhammad was the last and for the whole world. Jesus reiterates this stance when he says
"Then Jesus said to the woman, "I was sent only to help God's lost sheep–the people of Israel." (Matthew 15:24)
The Qur'an goes on to say many of the warners weren't heeded. But like I said earlier, you must've known all this Mr. Ex-Muslim. Eh?
There is a flaw in humans that you all should admit and that is: the decisions we make or the reason we choose to believe in certain things is a function of our current knowledge state. some time ago, the world would have insulted any divine book that says there are 8 planets, this is because as at that time, the knowledge reaching us, which is taught in all schools then is that there are 9 planets Pluto being the 9th, but here it stands, there are just 8 of them, as the current knowledge we have now is that Pluto is non-existent. this applies for every area of study in the human world, The case of HIV being labeled a gay related disease just to mention a few, being quick to reach conclusions on issues we do not have knowledge about is a very dangerous game.
Napoleon tried to debunk the miracle of Moses parting the sea using scientific explanations, scientist tell you the story of the burning bush is no miracle….so i am not surprise to see you people either denying or accepting this as a miracle even when you have not seen it yourself. Prejudice is ruling here and i can tell from your rejection even before seeing for yourself. The Quran clearly admonish that you should confirm everything you see before you believe in, not play mind games and think you are smarter here.
You are hate driven brothert atke it easy, you do not have to live your life with so much hatred for this blood sucking extremist muslims, they do not deserve it, rather spend your time seeking the truth, If you continue like this your hatred will make you just like them.
You stupid bunch of people – May Allah set guide you back to Islam!!!
Did you see this rebuttal of your Islamic NASA specialist http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/NaikCampbelli…
Read it. He never responded to them. See if you can.
How could anyone in their right mind ask Ali Sina concerning Dr Zakir Naik? It's like asking a kindergarten child to build a NASA commissioned space shuttle. It can and will never happen!
If you believe your Guru Ali Sina to hold any clout, debate with Dr Zakir Naik openly, in person with televised cameras, in the USA under the guard of the FBI and Secret Service with minimal audience attendance, but aired live around the globe.
And please don't use the lame broken record, 'fearful for his life' rhetoric from Ali Sina. Come up with something new and plausible.
Come on Ali Sina. Surely you could do better than that?
Third reason:
And when Aisha grow older, seventeen, started looking like a real woman, broad hips, hanging tits, groving a bush, then Mohammad bin Abdulla started looked around.
The story goes: (A hadith, I have lost source)
In his last year (64 or 65) Mohammad visitited some people.
In the house Mohammad saw a very young girl crawling on the flour, and he said,: When she groves up I will mary her.
I translate:
In a house means: Women do not have to be covered.
Young girl crawling means, Young girl having hands and feet on the groung and naked ass in the air, in the nose of Mohammed bin Abdullah.
When Mohammed sees this naked, hairless pussy, he said: When she grows up, I will make it legal for me to have sex with her.
Very young girl means 2 – 3 – 4 – years old?
64 years and thinking about sex when seing a babys naked ass.
That is pedophilia.
Joseph and Mary on Facebook? Please.
Henk are right.
Mohammad bin Abdulla was a Pedophile.
Tree reasons:
Aisha was playing with dolls (9 years old) minutes before being defloured.
Surely the lovestory of the mellenium.
56 years old camelherder rapes 9 years old immature girl.
Romantic love. Sure.
Aisha never had children.
Premature rape often has this consequense.
Aisha was damaged, molested, abused.
In news papers 2010 I read about a 8 year old pakistani girl, dyed from bleeding, after marying older pakisrani man.
Hej Rationalist.
Your grandfather was not a pedophile.
He was – as your grandmom – a victim to local custums.
Where are you from – rural Pakistan or?
You have chosen a wrong name.
Better call yourself Philialist because you list a lot of irrellevant Philias – Mental Sickness.
But you have a serious decease: a very serious Mental Sickness.Prophetophilia. You love your Prophet too much.
So much that you spit on your own Grandfather.
Have you no shame.
If a religion do not teach to love each other and teach kill those who born in a family which donot follow their religion.
See the prove below who is Ignorant:
You said Prophet mission came in Stages….. It does mean that Allah was checking out Prophet or given him some kind of pilot activity of prophet hood to run it successfully & then would have decided later to give him the certificate. If i believe you then Allah was / is indecisive !!!!
Rest all what you wrote is all statements of submission…. Does Allah needs so much attention !!!!
Allah who is so merciful…. would burn all non-muslims in the fire of hell even if they do best of the deeds.
God / Allah who has given us brains to think rational & then jump into conclusion…. why cant you read & understand the phrases rather then mugging it up.
God bless you & hope some day you find the truth….
Brother Truthseeker !
Shirk is the worst crime one can do as per Quran….. when ever a muslim pray they face towards the kaaba….. ( Bcos as per Islam/Quran/Muhammed world is Flat….. Lol Science in quran). Now that science has proved that the earth is not flat n is spherical…. any point on earth can be the center of the earth….. where you would stand and pray would be the center of the earth & why do you have to face towards the Kaaba… if you face in the opposite direction still you would face the kaaba……
Hope you are getting my point…… actually it science…. Quran n Science…. hahaha
Hi Kishore,
The name you took, i dont even want to take his name….. he is on lost case…..funded by the S.Arab…. He talks nonsense….he was called for debate by all big time religious scholars…..
He does not have the guts to even stand them for 2 min…. he would be blown out of the debate in a minute……
In short he is a moron of first order.
Dont be shallow minded. All the blunders of your cult have been uncovered by Ali Sina, I bet you dont even know Arabic you just recite things which you dont understand
God(The real God, not Allah) did not sleep with Mary, Mary was married to Joseph, who at that time was nowhere near the age of 54. Check your facts
so you have defeated islam, haha you foolish disbeliever
This was the same reply I gave to a Muslim guy on facebook. He insisted that Koran had to be in Arabic to be flawless. I said that if it was so then the 'knowledge' of Islam would be unavailable to the whole world. Still they were reluctant to accept that it was wholly partial towards Arabs.
Debunked by 'Christian' scholars paid by Saudi Arabia you mean? I really tend to believe those scholars (lol).
I didn't say you were a retard,I said your explanation was stupid.But if you could differentiate between an ad-hominem and a criticism you wouldn't have followed Muhammad's fairy tales.
Last comment you said " each creature has its own universe . we have universe of animal , universe of insects, universe of bird . universe of human , universe of plant , universe of angels , universe of jins , universe of fish , universe atoms , and so on"
And now you are saying you meant kingdoms.This unique ability of meaning anything using any word allows you to preach the lies of your religion.Heavens mean layers of atmosphere somewhere, and sky in some other.Such is the dumbness of your faith.
Throw your filth elsewhere,your religion has created enough shitholes all over the world.Throw this filth there.
"If God says in koran religion for me is Islam then why are you dummy saying islam only for Arabs" LOL It wasn't God, it was Muhammad the ape-man who raped children.
Quran has only one place-the toilet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRBCeo7wb3k&fe…
One can be Hindu even without worshipping any God at all.
I am with you, for SURE !
Please give us more convincing evidence than Google/Twitter and Facebook. They aren't 2000 years old. All those sources can be polluted with people that like to whitewash their own believes.
There is absolutely no evidence of a 12 year old Mary and a 45 year old Joseph.
Even Jesus is only mentioned a few times outside the bible in f.e. in the books of Josephus. Let alone that Mary and Joseph are mentioned. Maybe in Islamic scriptures that were made 800 years after the events.
Gr.
HEnk
Even explaining for that, Buddha led a more submitted life ( that is without harming others) than Mohammad the submitter.
If you want to understand Buddha, leave your Islamic glasses behind.
Buddha – pointed a way to the fulfillment of human life – by reaching a level of consciousness and showing the way to others.
Not by loot and by violence – but by giving real peace to others.
Buddha led an awakened life.
Mohammad led an animal/ignorant life.
Yes, first you make people poor and needy by looting them. You maim them in battle and make them handicapped. Then you donate trifles.
That is Islam.
seems Aisha was born with puberty. Her mind too had reached puberty at the age of 9. Then why the dolls?
Taking away of total freedom of man by Mohammad — that is Islam. Now pawn everyone in Islam.
Cut your lingam (phallus) like your diety Shiva did while dancing in your religion and start worshiping it. Why can't be one be Hindu without worshiping phallus?
Why does Allah need army of angles, houri, Jinns, prophets. Why can not one be Muslim without believing in Allah army?
I’m on a hiiiighway to hell! Hiiighway to hell!
YA ALLAH
All praises are for you Allah, how I hope that you are there.
For sinful though I know I am, your displeasure I can not bear.
Never, till this moment, did I realize how much I've strayed.
Never, till now, was I more conscious of all those times when I should have prayed.
For sins are like heavy baggage, that one carries through Life, the airport.
Why didn't I realize sooner, that Earth is but a place of sport?
Ya Allah ! Forgive me. Save me from the fire of Hell.
Forgive me as you did my parents, from Jan'ah though they fell.
Ya Allah ! Protect me. From myself for my soul is weak.
Let me not falter ever, for Jan'ah is the abode I seek.
Ya, Allah! Please help me. For I don't understand and thus, I fear.
What happened to all those moments when I never doubted that you were near ?
My actions once were guided, by my faith which, once, was strong.
Ya Allah! please guide me . What happened, what went wrong ?
Each footstep that I used to take, I took with you ever near my side.
The Quran was my faithful companion, Rasoolallah my beloved guide.
How I yearn for those bygone days Allah, for I know that the day comes near
When we'll each receive our just rewards, and Truth will stand sparkling clear.
Life is like a spider's web Allah. We get caught in its tricky snare
So thoroughly are we disillusioned, time for salat we can not spare.
I sit here and I wonder, Ya Allah! Why did I fall so low ?
What happened to my faith Allah? Where did my Iman go?
In this earthly life of ours, so often does sin seem right.
Falsehood seems to be the truth, as if days are confused with night.
Man is an imperfect creature. And thus, Man shall always wrong.
For the road to Jan'ah is rocky, and the journey seems awfully long.
Ya Allah ! Our creator, we are all just peices of clay.
Please help us with our steps in life, and let us not lose our way.
All praises are for you Allah, I know that you are near.
I know that you have read my heart, and my words I know you hear.
I am a Muslim
I am a Muslim
And God I praise
For all his blessings
My voice I raise
In one God I believe
No equal has He
Lord of the universe
Compassionate to me
Muhammad the Prophet
Taught me the way
To be honest and truthful
Throughout everyday
The Holy Qur'an
To life is my guide
Its teachings I follow
By it I abide
Islam is my religion
Preaches good deeds
Mercy and Kindness
To the right path it leads
Upon all humanity
God showers his grace
Regardless of colour
Nationality or race
Through working together
Our hopes increase
To live in a world
Full of love and peace
Full of love and peace
I am a Muslim
And God I praise
For all His blessings
My voice I raise
@All
Can one refuse to believe in God and still be follower of Vedic religion? http://agniveer.com/common-questions-vedic-religi…
Yes,
– Vedic God is different from God of Bible, Quran or Purans. Most people when they refuse to believe in God are actually refusing to accept superstitions in name of God as propagated in name of religion. The anathema of West against God is only for the God of Bible. This is justifiable because God of Bible has many contradictory properties and at times acts like a mortal human being. But Vedic God is different. In fact God may not be the right word to denote the Vedic concept of Supreme.
The Vedic concept is much more intuitive and natural – that there is a source of unchangeable laws of the world that govern this world and us. Physicists may simply call it Law of Nature. Now a smart Vedic follower adds a dash of positivity into this and says that this source of unchangeable laws is acting in a manner that we can enhance our happiness through right actions. We are neither left in lurch like orphans nor allowed to escape fruits of our action. So there is a well-founded optimism that the laws of nature ensure justice and support. We believe so because we see this very obvious in world around and in our innate tendencies.
But someone intellectual who was nurtured in a society that had completely different notions of a Supreme entity – an anthropomorphic entity, or a moody emperor, or a magician etc – may find such a God hard to digest. And it would be difficult for him to dissociate word God from this meaning and give it a new meaning in perspective of Vedas. For example, Arya is a very noble word. But in Germany, people would somehow try to link it with some sort of racism because of the Hitler episode. These words trigger certain emotions due to their previous associations and hence difficult for many to appreciate any new meaning easily.
Thus atheism is a natural and rightly-directed aversion of a truth-seeker from what his mind considers as unfounded notions. So in being atheist, he or she is STILL acting as a loyal follower of Vedic religion.
In other words, a truth-seeking atheist or agnostic or even a superstitious believer in some other notion of God is STILL a Vedic person, if he or she believes in these notions honestly after whatever experience, expertise, intellect that they possess at a given moment in time.
Which name? Internet handles are your names ? Ok tell us more what is not permissible in Islam and what you want us to follow real Islam.
You are a b i t c h . You are not fukcing ,short of erectile dysfunction, you are watching others bedroom and shouting at them, this should not be that should not be . Wait They will come out of their bedroom and make your ass red , purple or blue with dry sugarcane. It always work keep trying. This is bare truth about you . Now you have completed truth seeking congratulations !
@TipTop
Copying name of Kufr/non-believer is sin in Islam.Allah will punish you eternally for name belongs to Kufr cultures. Call yourself with any Arbi Name.
Where did Moses go in Judaism? Pharisees sit in Moses' seat and Judaism is fake.
Muslims are always SO eager to quote the Old Testament as a display of “acceptable” behavior from God. First of all, not everyone thinks that the god of the Old Testament was ever good; most gnostics (think the Cathars here) were some of the people who believed that he was an evil minor god, and even Satan himself, not sure. And second of all, modern Judaism isn’t so much related to what you’ll find in the Old Testament because modern Jews practice Rabbinic Judaism developed by the Pharisees after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem. The YHWH of the Old Testament is the god of the Sadducees, a long-ago extinct sect —the rich and priestly sect which practiced such things incompatible with modern Judaism as ritual sacrifices—, whereas the god of the Pharisees and therefore modern Jews is very, very different.
As a matter of fact, the differences were so big as to go to the point of discussing whether there was resurrection or not. Sadducees thought “no”, Pharisees said “yes”. This gives you a good hint at where Jesus got many ideas from (Joseph himself was a Pharisee, and pretty much everyone who was poor and not a Samaritan) and why nobody doubts the good intentions of modern Judaism: it’s not the same kind of Judaism. But can we say the same thing about Islam? I think not!
ok do your job work.
@TipTop
If I born with lacking something it is fault of Allah not mine. I hate such Allah.
Are you born without sperm ! Howdy ?
Who said this? Go nag with him, muslim don't say so.
@TipTop
Mohammed put the allegation on Allah that Allah was the first supporter of incest. All Humanity is result of incest? Mohammed was the supporter of incest.
__________Is it a tourist place___________
Okey, Then What is Kaaba? Is Allah reside only in Kaaba? Is Allah confined only to Kaaba?
@TipTop
Why Allah could not save its earlier revelations? What was the problem with Allah? Where from Allah got the power this time and he decided he will save the revelations send to Mohammed.
There was some problem when your mom was pregnant with you. See nobody has this problem what allah can do or can't.
Who you told you never done any crime. You are hopeless. Biggest crime you are doing insulting messenger and Allah both. Ok if I talk ugly about your sister, mother, wife will you allow me at your home. Even you allow I won't ring your bell because sin is sin.
But whats take visiting kaaba if you don't believe .Is it a tourist place? Ok if you want to believe or you have real wish visiting with pure heart , you won't be cunning mind insulting prophet of kaaba. Double check how your heart is filled with animosity. May be some muslim might have raped your near and dear. But rape is also crime in muslim so punishable offense.
@TipTop
Why was Allah ass blowing when angle denied to bow before Aadam. But poor Allah could not do anything of him.
@TipTop
Last year my a friends visited Kaaba although he is facing serious charges of rape but authority allowed him. But I was not allowed by Allah to visit Kaaba though I never done any crime. Allah hates me but loves a rapist and terrorist.
"Guantanamo houses hardened terrorists not innocent women and children. Furthermore, Muhammad claimed to be a prophet of God and acted like Hitler. "
Yet many have been let go… years of keeping there – no trial – no explanation.
Begg is one such example.
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Others are sitting there – no trial. This is called Western Justice.
Your question have answer in it. Hate as much as you can and blow your ass .
But who ring your door bell to rape your sister , wife, mother please care to reply.
@TipTop
Ask to Allah when a rapist and terrorist visit for Kaaba by affirming their faith in Allah but Allah do not allow noble person if one is non-believer in pedophilia, rapist, mass murderer prophet Mohammed.
Who ring your door bell every day and rape your daughter, sister, wife, and mother every night ?
@All/Ali Sina
What will you say if a person believe in you firmly but rape with your daughter, sister, wife, and mother and other one who do not believe in you but respect your mother, daughter, wife etc. who is batter in your eyes? Although Allah like the first one that is why he allows even a rapist to enter in kaaba but not saintly person like Mahatama Gandi, Mother Teressa etc just because they are non-believer in prophet.
@Ali Sina Sir
I could not understand Allah have no problem if a rapist, terrorist, pedophilia, mass-murder enters in Kaaba but Allah have problems with a non-believer in Mohammed no matter however non-believer may be saintly person like Mahatma Gandhi, Jesus, Mother Teressa etc. What will you say such God?
Dear Ms Ali Sina, I believe that in this world, there are true exceptional love stories which are beyond human understanding and that age should not became a barrier, provided that the love between the male and female character is really plain natural and genuine. For what can separate a pair of love birds? Perhaps only death do they part. But I truly agreed that if love and marriage is arranged or forced between a young girl and an old man by her sick parents ie. Aisha and Muhammad, then, this is a tragedy. It's sad to know that your beloved maternal grandparents were one such sad case.
It doesn't matter what he claimed…….you and I know very well that what so called prophets were just politicians, and in politics wars always occur. When they drop
a bomb on a country, they don't have in consideration women and children………..
Enemies were treated according to their religion. Judgment was in accordance with the law of Moses as stated in Deuteronomy 20:10-14.
10 : “When you go to attack a city, you must first offer peace to the people there.
11 : If they accept your offer and open their gates, all the people in that city will become your slaves and be forced to work for you.
12 : But if the city refuses to make peace with you and fights against you, you should surround the city.
13 : And when the LORD your God lets you take the city, you must kill all the men in it.
14 : But you may take for yourselves the women, the children, the cattle, and everything else in the city. You may use all these things. The LORD your God has given these things to you.
Guantanamo houses hardened terrorists not innocent women and children. Furthermore, Muhammad claimed to be a prophet of God and acted like Hitler.
bible and christianity has been debunked and proved wrong by top biblical scholars unlike Islam . people who are trying to prove that koran is wrong are bunch of amateurs like Ali Sina who ran from my response like this post because I whipped his ass one time so he only response to ignorant people like you guys
"Either the Quran is a pack of lies and contradictions or it is only for the Arabs of Mecca and its surrounding. You decide which."
OR, a third alternative: In case of contradiction, later verses abrogate the earlier, as sanctioned and explained by Sura 2:106 and 16:101, and therefore Islam has to spread around the world, until every human submits to Islam's God Allah (Sura 8:39).
You said he ordered Sa'ad ibn Zaid to sell the women and children of Bai Quraiza to Najd.
Well, that's what they used to do with the enemies at that time. They did not have Guantanamo
or Alcatraz then.
Ok…does that mean today's Muslims have the right to do the same with non muslims? There is something called sunnah which, I guess, means emulating Mohammed's life style. So is there any restriction on how much to emulate and which actions are no longer relevant in modern context?
Yes it is true, but kidnap is not the correct word. Muhammad used to raid towns, kill the men and capture the women and then sell them for weapons and horses. He ordered Sa’d ibn Zaid to sell the women and children of Bani Quraiza to Najd in exchange for weapons.
Interesting aspect is that my grandfather never knew he was pedophile whole of his lifetime. Pedophilia was not even in his dictionary. I liked my grandmother as I liked her but I liked my grandfather much more, he was man of few words, center of house and morally strong.
Etiquettes and moral values were different in his time like dancers and singers had no social respect. Now we have celebrities dancers and singers who have more social respect. So many are still building career by shaking their rear and have no contribution to moral values.
We are missing birth certificates of Mary and Joseph. Those time world population was not much and unemployment was not a problem. So nobody innovated job of making birth certificates.
Today's authenticate sources Google, Twitter, Facebook confirms Mary was 12 year old and Joseph was 40-45 year old according to average life expectancy and marriageable age of that time.
That's a stupid explanation – world for horses, world for frogs… Wonder if there's a world for retards in Islam as well. 🙂
Is it true that Mohamed and his friends used to kidnap and sell girls in market in return for wealth and food? I read this once in relation to the Islamic decree against coitus interruptus…Ali Sina ji please reply.
Oh yeah, it is said in dirty Koran that MooMAD has split the moon into two.
And most PIGslam believe that !!!
How Idiot !!!
PIGslam has became retarded because they follow a retarded prophet, MooMad is prophet of all retarded.
My grandmother was 15 when my grandfather 45, divorced his wife and married her. This was a very unhappy marriage. Both died before I was born but as I heard the story from my mother, I was filled with sorrow. This kind of dysfunctional families affect also the children and the children’s children.
"this world would be a place of the joy without crazy idea of human written on the book called a holly book "
hmm… a holly book! Now that would be a first!
"According to the Quran all people have received a revelation. The above verse says the Quran is for those who never received a revelation, lest they should say, `There has come to us no bearer of glad tidings and no Warner’.
This matter is clear, but Allah wants it to be clear even to the dumbest of people. He names the exact geographic location for which Muhammad was sent.
Q. 6:92
And this is a Book which WE have revealed, full of blessings, to fulfill that which preceded it, and to enable thee to warn the Mother of towns and those around it. أُمَّ الْقُرَى وَمَنْ حَوْلَهَا
The mother of towns, Umul Qura, is Mecca. This verse says Islam was sent to warn Mecca and its surrounding حَوْلَهَا. How can it be for all mankind?
Now this point is clear even to the dumbest of people, But Allah knows some people are really stupid and he wants to make this matter clear even to them. So he repeats the same thing in verse 42:7
Thus have WE revealed to you the Qur’an in Arabic, that you may warn the Mother of towns, and all those around it."
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huh? Physically and in his lifetime – that was all Prophet Muhammad could achieve. And that is what the verse says.
It is directly talking to Prophet Muhammad
It does not convey or even imply that Islam is limited to the Arabs.
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This is why:
"Now, I am sure some Muslims can quote other verses that say Islam is for all mankind. If they do so, they will prove that the above verses are false."
Sina knows full well the above is a fallacious argument – he has ignored material that did not fit with his argument – failing to do that is wrong.
Shouldn't it have been a killer blow then to point out such contradictions? After all Sina has no love for Islam… and is passionately against it.
This then would've showed up that placing things out of their context too is fallacious.
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Hence this concocted drama… however:
Q. 6:92
And this is a Book which WE have revealed, full of blessings, to fulfill that which preceded it, and to enable thee to warn the Mother of towns and those around it.
All this verse implies is that Prophet Muhammad was able to warn Mecca and those around it with the Quran. This in no way limits the extent of Islam.
"The Quran is so incoherent and stupid that clearly show he was an illiterate man. "
Yet not even all Atheists hold this view.
http://poemsintranslation.blogspot.co.uk/
Might I suggest those with better skills in language and linguistics. On what bases do you form this opinion other than your obvious hatred of Islam?
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The Chapter of Rehamn for example is well written – coherent enough, and rhymes beautifully.
so you believe that having sex with 9year old girl by a 54 year old man is ok??? I call this an act of pedophilia.
Rationalist
It was not God, who visited Mary. It was the Holy Spirit.
Pedophilia is defined as "adult having sex with minor"
Or Old men loving having sex with small girls and only small girls.
God did not have sex with Mary.
I think it is not true to say that God had an unnatural sexual desire for Mary.
But I asked for sources for your claim, that Joseph was 40-45, and Mary was 12, when Jesus was born.
Sources as in: Where did you read that stuff.
I have dismissed case when God can make pregnant 12 year old then pedophilia is not biological. We differ morally.
Yes my grandfather was pedophile then my grandmother grew he turned hebephile then ephebophiles then teleiophile and died as gerontophile.
Mary married with Joseph who was around 40-45 year old that time. He was also pedophile then he turned others. Jesus was not biological son of God
Why not Best prophet Mohammed was send in very inception creation to guide the humanity? People born before Mohammed could not take benefit of his teachings. Why did not Allah create us in period of Mohammed so that could see miracle done by him with our naked eyes. Why does Allah want from us to believe in Mohammed miracles without seeing them? Why not Allah or prophet did arrangements to record the miracles like (Breaking moon, going to seveth sky to meet Allah) so that next generation would easily be follower of Mohammed.
Why does Saudi Arabs claims Islamic prophet are world best prophet? Why did Mohammed claim Saudi Arbia people are world best people? It all seems political agenda of Mohammed & Saudi Arab to make the people faithful to them.
Hej Rationalist
You wrote: "Mary delivered Jesus when she was 12 year old. If Jesus is son of God then God must be pedophile. "
So you define a pedoephile as a person, who have sex with 11/12 years old girls (or boys)
Then you wrote, that your grandmother was 11 when married to your grandfather.
I assume they consumated the marriage shortly after the wedding.
Does this mean, that you think, that your grandfater was a pedoephile?
Then you wrote: "Mary delivered Jesus when she was 12 year old."
You have some source for that information?
Pedophilia is not biological term its morally loaded term. We are all products of pedophilia nobody can deny this. God made pregnant 12 year old, case dismissed chapter closed.
My grandmother was 11 year old when married to my grandfather 21 year old. My grandfather was farmer. It doesn't require much time to prepare land but to germinate seed , seed nurtured in land and bring healthy crops this is life.
I am not pedophile I am ephebophile.
AHA…….now I know where did Mohammad learn to do that.
yeh given a chance you will make the world nude right.
errrr I am not poor as she to insult anybody, point out insult I did uh!
this world would be a place of the joy without crazy idea of human written on the book called a holly book
It seems you have been hurt badly by Sina.I think by a little bit of insult to him , you will
feel much better ……
Verse where it says religion for God is islam , are you blind you did not read it . Worlds does not mean earth . In Arabic we say world of something in english will be universe of . According to koranic experts each creature has its own universe . we have universe of animal , universe of insects, universe of bird . universe of human , universe of plant , universe of angels , universe of jins , universe of fish , universe atoms , and so on . So prophet was sent to all universes of created things not just human being
I am also not trying to insult a specific religion but Mary delivered Jesus when she was 12 year old. If Jesus is son of God then God must be pedophile.
Guess what…….. according to Christianity, you and all Muslims will be losers in the hereafter, because they don't accept Jesus as a savior and as son of God.
I am not trying to insult a specific religion, but this situation is very confusing, because no matter what religion I choose, I will be a loser in the end. So, it is better to reject them all to be on the
safe side.
Johann atleast you can defeat who is fighting sina is a girl did you know this? she is so shy she can't utter a truth openly. Muslims are open and don't mind any sacrifice for fighting truth because its truth anyway.
No one is getting nothing being internet warriors. For we time really pass so fast we forget words especially manipulated and live our life. Who is leaving any religion anyway he is leaving and who is not leaving not leaving till death.
None of your verses say it was for non-Arabs.
Except "all worlds".Now we don't know of more than one world from the Quran.Because when Adam n Eve were thrown out of heaven Quran clearly says they were sent to Earth,not any other world.
The Quran is a self-contradicting piece of nonsense.
Islam is ideology not religious. Islam is create by Muhammad terrorist. He used Islam to get politic, wealth and women. Today Islam penetrate politic, law, finance, food etc. All this ideology create radical Islam and will danger to non-Muslim. All human are same but Islam make human difference make a lot of problem to the world.
The contradiction are only in your ignorant mind and not in koran
Prophet mission came in stages . In The begining of his mission , God ordered him to warn just his family then to warn his town then to warn outside Mecca .
Why you ignored this verse which states that Mohamed was sent to all worlds .
And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds.
Plus how can you explain the existence of non Arabs among prophets compagnion such as Salman the persian , Bilal the abyssinian , Suhaib the Byzantinian , Salam the Jew , If only Arabs are concerned as far as Islam
Then God closed the case in strong sentence in this verse
Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them – out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah , then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account.
According to the verse God does not care who you are Arab or non Arab the religion for him is Islam and only Islam . How can then Islam be just for Arabs
And whoever desires other than Islam as religion – never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.
In this verse God will accept only Islam from people
The contradiction are only in your ignorant mind and not in koran
Prophet mission came in stages . In The begining of his mission , God ordered him to warn just his family then to warn his town then to warn outside Mecca .
Why you ignored this verse which states that Mohamed was sent to all worlds .
And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds.
Plus how can you explain the existence of non Arabs among prophets compagnion such as Salman the persian , Bilal the abyssinian , Suhaib the Byzantinian , Salam the Jew , If only Arabs are concerned as far as Islam
Then God closed the case in strong sentence in this verse
Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them – out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah , then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account.
According to the verse God does not care who you are Arab or non Arab the religion for him is Islam and only Islam . How can then Islam be just for Arabs
Here is another verse
And whoever desires other than Islam as religion – never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.
In this verse God will accept only Islam from people
So you are so proud of yourself , you found a typo from sina. Wow , i guess you proved your
case.Go brag to your muslim friends that you defeat Sina…….
The point is not whats in chapter 26:198-199, the point is Ali Sina lied. He is so ignorant.
This alone speaks about his knowledge of Quran. Can you expect such typo from him?
Aha!! Now I see he has accepted his lie.
"How can you prove that its a typo?"
It was a typo because 26:198-199 say the same thing Ali Sina was saying. You knew about chapter 36 and how many verses there were but you don't know about the contents of chapter 26:198-199. If you are a truth seeker, then a simple google search would give you the truth.
Really!!
Think again!!
You have just proved that you believe in God!!
Thats nice. Atleast now you believe there is God.
This new article is a WOW !! So readable, its so comic 🙂
This also tells his little and ignorant knowledge about Quran.
How can you prove that its a typo?
If I say you live in london but you live in denmark, its not a typo, its a lie.Even It was a typo, he was so ignorant to verify what has he written?
This is the problem and his mindset..ignorance.
@truthseeker: Ali Sina was not lying. It was a typo. The correct chapter is 26:198-199.
Johann[um] is the place for you.
Pathetic is you who is so ignorant about facts..
If you are not pathetic, prove what i wrote above is wrong?
You're pathetic, if that;s the best you can do, you could just argue that Ali authored the Qoran !
Marrying at 6,is not the more important issue although it is wrong as well.
Issue is he had sex with Aisha when she was 9!!
Sex with 9 year olds was not the norm in any civilized society,child marriage was and is still common in poorer countries.I'm not sure about how Arabia was in Mo's time,but till today there is no minimum age of marriage in Saudi!!The law in Saudi states that a father can marry off his daughter at any age,provided she has menstruated.Cases have been reported till 2009/10 where Saudi courts have unheard pleas of the mothers of young girls(8-10 years) who have been married to men 50 years older.
Mo is responsible for all this.All it'd have taken for him is not do the heinous act, or like his another of his great social crimes(10+ wives) he could've said "Hey,I'm the prophet.Allah allows me to have sex with 9 year olds,but you aren't allowed by Allah".
And no,Mo didn't fail.His objective was not to raise moral,progressive societies.His objective was to create a legion of slaves who don't dare to question his words.Look around,he's very successful!
Ali Sina himself is a typo.
You are pathetic, is this the best you could come up to argue your case.
Ali Sina wasn't lying. It was a typo as it should be 26:198-199.
Ali SIna caught lying again!!
There are only 83 verses in chapter 36.
Ali Sina quotes from chapter 36:198-199.
This alone proves what a liar Ali Sina is. Has mastered the art of twisting facts.
Shame!! Shame!! Shame!! on you Ali Sina.
You have been proved wrong. I believe you are d Dajjal in making.
Do you have one Eye?
I watched the video. It says that the mother is Christian and the father of the baby abandoned her because she refused to abort the baby. (many men don't want children)
The nurse claimed that the baby was born holding a small quran in his palm. If you are a religious Muslim, you will certainly believe it, and you will not bother for a moment to think that the nurse could be an accomplice of the mother hoping to split the fortune that will arrive from Saudi Arabia with her.
Please think, there are no miracles, and since this is impossible, then there must be a reasonable explanation for it.
I cannot imagine that any wise person asks a question like that. It is obvious that this is a hoax like the one that preceded it some time ago. Some cons use the emotions and religious beliefs of others to make some cash or gain publicity. It is well known that the religious people are emotional, and every person who is controlled by emotions is an easy prey for the cons.
Frankly I have no sympathy for people who accept to be victims.
from who did mohammed learn about nestorianism? from bahira?
mr sina..
is allah a zionist?
isnt he.. according to Q5:21 and Q17:104
Kishore wrote: "Mohammad and Allah are mentioned in all major religious scriptures. Is it true?"
The Poetic Edda is the scripture or the Holy Book of the nordic religion Asatrue (in modern English)
This religion is composed by a Seer or Prophet in eighteenth or nineteenth century.
The Book was written down many centuries later. 1260AD or something.
In this holy book you find no trace of Mohammed bin Abdulla or Allah.
But to me it looks like a prophet have been active after Mohammed, and so Mohammed can not be the last Messenger. Mohammed is not the seal.
And i am Prince William !
Enough talk ! We should destroy that ugly Kaaba ! Those stupid muslims are destroying Toumbouctou http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2012/06/30/9700… (Malia,Africa). I mean praying to the kaaba isn't that somekind of Shirk ? We would render them a huge service ! Allah HATE shirk, worse sin ever !
Who is with me ? 😛
the joker
No one said you should follow me or anyone blindly and no one here does it. The whole purpose of this exercise is to become free thinkers, a prophet to ourselves and not blind followers.
That's not what my experience in life told me…….and I did not say all men don't want children, I said many of them, and I personally met many men who don't want children, and arguments arise with their spouses for this reason.
It doesn't matter whether I am a woman or a man……….I am just telling what I saw and experienced.
Listen, I am not going to follow you blindly and shut my eyes on what I witnessed and touched, and do not expect that all people are like your admirers who look at your writings with their stupid faces and shout Hurray for everything you write without even thinking and trying to use their own heads and judgment.
You must be a woman for saying the motive or man is just to fulfill is sexual desire. Both man and woman have libido, and both desire children and want to procreate. If you are a man and sex is the only thing in your mind, then I don’t know what to tell you except that most men are not like that. Men care about children and love them as much as women do.
According to Budhism, souls do search for bodies to be reborn. watch this video, it is very interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCHh8xqMWeo
No, the motive of men is to fulfill their sexual desire, and not all of men want children….. but the women's motive is to be mothers plus fulfilling a desire. You rarely find women who don't want children.
This claim is so ridiculous that if one tries to refute it one will also look ridiculous. Since that idiot woman in Chechnya wrote on the body of her child and became famous not every Muslim woman wants to claim a miracle for her child and enjoy her 15 minutes of fame among fellow idiot Muslims.
zakir naik looks depressed or frustated.
Mr Ali Sina,it's always interesting reading your write ups. Can you please say something on the baby boy claimed to have been born with a miniature Holy Quran in Nigeria last month? Was it a reality or a hoax? Just go to google and ask for a baby born holding a Quran. Is it a Miracle? Thanks.
I think I need to rephrase this for better understanding what I mean
Inability of Buddha mind to explain either Divine or Matrix of the Universe and just calling sacrifice of desires leads to hopeless state of mind.
Objects achieved in noble truths of buddhism assuming no one is center of universe , everyone is interconnected , interdependent are the same objects achieved in submission. But missing Divine. So I said incomplete message or half truth.
Mr.Sina,
Do you believe in god?
This is human nature. Don’t men have the same concerns? Having children and perpetuating our species is the primary motive of all creatures including humans, whether man or woman.
As a matter of fact, the number one concern of all women is marrying and have children…..this is not up to them, it is the instinct of motherhood. Of course they have other concerns, but this one comes first.
He (Budha) denied that he was a god, he told his people: "I am not a god, not even a prophet". I do not understand why his people insist to create an image for him and worship it. It seems that it is hard for the humans to live without worshiping something.
As for sacrificing desires, this is mentioned in your book also (wa naha alnafs an al-hawa). The Quran also promised heaven to a person who says No to desires.
This is amazing. I have paid attention to this issue for years and I see all the devout Muslims have very evil features while those who are less Muslims and specially those who leave Islam have very pleasant features.
We have a saying in Persian. There is a face inside just as the one outside.
Soorati dar zir darad anche dar balasti.
lol the only thing that can defeat intelligence is stupidity. Do women care to think other than marrying and finding right person?
Right, what I praise from buddhism is Buddha’s effort to talk about religion and the pains of man and nothing else. I don’t share many of his views either, especially that life means pain; but he was a real religious man, unlike Mohammed who was more of a tribal leader.
AwakeningOwl: that’s not how buddhism works actually. It’s not about reincarnation (this is an hinduist belief) but rebirth, and souls don’t go from one body to another as they aren’t what we usually think them to be (things that can migrate). He says souls are like fire: it’s not a thing, an object, as it changes, but it isn’t nothing either. Souls don’t have to be created to account for the increasing population, as they aren’t countable things. They are the result of desire.
Weird, but purely religious.
Look at the ugly faces of the muslims on the foto above.
I don't believe that any woman (surely not 4) will marry them.
Perhaps it is that what makes them so angry an jealous .
Zakir NaiK looks exactly like the clown he is.
Only stupid people are impressed by his juggling .
Buddha (Siddhartha) was never sincere in search of truth but he was devastated with realization of life and death. He never got truth or say got half truth or say message was incomplete.
Being awaken(Buddha) is part of life not life totally and meant to help to others.
Isolation and fragmentation are unhealthy, unsustainable and unnatural.Knowledge is not enough, a need of bringing knowledge to power is important.
So just calling sacrifice desire is leading to a hopeless state of mind. Buddha mind is unable to explain either Divine or Matrix of the Universe.
This is true, Budha was the only one who sincerely searched for the ultimate truth……
he gave up his kingdom and wealth for its sake. Most of the Budhism principles are acceptable to me, but some make no sense. For example, begging: this is very humiliating,
also the theory of reincarnation: the population on this earth is increasing dramatically,
where are those extra people coming from?
If the theory of reincarnation is right, then there will be a dicrease in population, because some of the souls (who are purified) will not come back.
Buddhism which creates well to do beggers lol. Kill your all desires and be zero potential mentality eggheads and start begging. Sorry we donate only poor, needy and handicapped.
He's just a businessman,out there to make money by making fools out of people.
zakir naik is a very nonsensical person. his speeches make no sense to me. it is such like he is just babbling on others and fooling them. he is also very double standard and a big deception-master.
The only religions on Earth are probably Buddhism and all the brands of Shamanism. All the other so-called religions are just a bunch of disguised political ideas created with the sole purpose of keeping people under control. Do they contain *some* good teachings? Sure; but you can have that while rejecting all the other disgusting and meaningless, useless, unverifiable crap.
Zakir Naik knows jack. That first. And second, what is a “major” religious scripture? There are minor religious scriptures which, suddenly, don’t matter? Why? Who determines this?
I don’t know which category a Mayan codex would fit in but, in all certainity, there’s not a single trace of Allah in them. Naik wishes they had at least been monotheists!
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Alt+QQ: you can’t see the Flying Spaghetti Monster either, may He have mercy upon your soul!
Ok emotional insulation is defensive stress management from keeping away of unbearable truth lol
I have posted related material (troll rejected). I don't even blame double standards of Vivekananda. But I do expect some one other than you should reply me and next I will pwn him/her lol
I respect many views of Vivekananda but don't respect every view of his.I'm not a blind believer in anything.
I don't agree to his view that from God comes all morality,don't agree that great men can have 200 wives(as was written in the link you pasted.I doubt its authenticity,but I'll check my library today evening to reconfirm).I don't agree that there was anything great about Mo.He was one of the super-villains in the league of Hitler,Bin Laden and Khomeni.He is not even fit to be called a man,let alone a Prophet.
You're obviously a troll who's suffering from delusion.I don't want to waste my time on you.Don't bother replying to me,as you won't get no further response from me.
Lokenath, Here is another sample version of history from man you respect Vivekanada. If you don't agree with vivekananda forget him. Try yours lol
A man called Sina claims Mohammad and Allah are not mentioned in all major religious scriptures. Is it true? You can't find any of his videos on YouTube. He holds no public debates and lectures in India and in many countries of the world.
History of Quran depicted in your story is not capable to create such glorious history.
You can try another version of history. Keep trying till you get buyers lol.
Zakir Naik is an impostor.
He knows neither Islam,nor any other religion,nor science and yet comments about all of them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNCd6YxajE&fe…
You can watch this video to see how ignorant he's.
And he doesn't hold public debate anymore.He just gives lectures,uses plants in the crowd,silences any difficult question that comes his way.
The only thing he's good at – is memorizing.But memory doesn't give knowledge,understanding does- which he possesses only a miniscule amount.
Mo claimed he heard some verses from angel Gibreel.
No one believed him but tolerated him coz his wife was quite influential.But when his demands became obnoxious,he was kicked out of Mecca.He spent few years killing and raiding trade caravans.After that he waged wars and established his kingdom.He wasn't officially the king but his status was higher than any king because he projected himself as "The last prophet of God".
During all this time,a string of verses kept getting "revealed" to him,often to suit his needs,particularly carnal needs.He could marry his daughter-in-law according to Allah,keep the most beautiful of the captured women for himself.He had six dreams of an unclothed baby,and recognized her as Aisha.He married her when she was six and consummated the marriage when she was only nine.
All was going well till he heard some verses and used to recite them,but later felt they were from Satan.He felt he had gone mad.His family assured him that he wasn't mad.Those verses were not recited and called the Satanic verses.
Being an illiterate,he couldn't write the Quran.When he died,there was no written Quran.After his death,his closest companions who are claimed to have photographic memories wrote down all the verses on which all of them agreed were recited by Mo.Thus the Quran was compiled after his death.There were many copies,but the Caliph of the time burnt all copies but one.This copy is claimed to be the Quran of today,although Quran with additional verses have been discovered in places such as Turkey.
That's the history of Quran.
Mr.Sina,
A man called Zakir Naik claims Mohammad and Allah are mentioned in all major religious scriptures. Is it true? You can find many of his videos on YouTube. He holds public debates and lectures in India and in many countries of the world.
Sorry, forgot to mention the majority belong to group 2, either too stupid or too emotionally weak.
As for Sina, he belongs to group 3.
Do not blame those people, all this violence you witness is just a reaction.
To all those visitors of this site who post positive comments of admiration,
you are all people in bubbles. If you don't believe it, watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gBna3zozRo&fe…
Mohammad did not write the Quran, he used to recite it, and he had a clerk/writer who used to do all the writing for him.
Did you surprised me lol
Age of consummation of Aisha(RA) was 9 year old(debatable).
Age of puberty is right age for marriage irrespective of any age limits set by different civilization down the centuries.
Aisha(RA) had reached puberty at the time of consummation.
Puberty start between ages 7 and 13 in girls and ages 9 and 15 in boys. In some people all the changes take place in two years, and in others they can take as long as four years.
Start googling or binging you will find numerous case of girls reaching puberty at age 9 or earlier this century too eg here here here here and more
To Alt+QQ
WHOSE PROPHET HAD SEX WITH A 9 YEAR OLD CHILD
What an idiotic argument. ” The tongue of him at whom they hint is foreign, and this is a clear Arabic tongue” as if concepts cannot be translated from one language to another. Really Allah is no smarter than his illiterate prophet.
Islam is only Religion on earth.
Ibn Ishaq page180: Margoliouth said: "According to my information the apostle used often to sit at al-Marwa at the booth of a young Christian called Jabr (2), a slave of B. al-Hadrami and they used to say "The one who teaches Muhammad most of what he brings is Jabr the Christian, slave of the B. al-Hadrami." Then God revealed in reference to their words "We well know that they say, "Only a mortal teaches him"." The tongue of him at whom they hint is foreign, and this is a clear Arabic tongue. (3)
The information Muhammad had about Jesus and the Biblical prophets is rudimentary and often wrong. He did not know anything that any illiterate person interested in religious subjects and listening to Christian preachers could not know. Muhammad was fond of religion and often listened to the sermons of Christian preachers during the Okaz annual fair. Christianity was rapidly growing in Hijaz and it was a subject of much interest among the Arabs. Everyone knew something about Christianity.
Why is Jesus Christ mentioned in the Qur'an? It's similar to Judaism and Christianity. How did Mohammad know all of this if he was illiterate?
Mr Sina, You are full of surprises.
I am very much impressed.
thanks
They also claim that Mohammad was a Prophet for all the times till the Judgement Day. Which means that Mohammad should not or could not have erred about the times to come till the Judgement Day and his doings and sayings should be relevant till the Judgement Day. Which means he should have foreseen the unacceptability in this age regarding child marriage. And yet, he married a 6 year old girl and made child marriage a sunnah.
Just see how the Prophet fails here.
Even educated Muslims are not willing nowadays to marry off their girl child at the age of 6.
Mohammad fails.
Islam is a fake religion.
It is a deadly and evil cult.
Do not believe in Islam. The Muslims are taught to kill and sexually abuse the non Muslim women..
Of course God had nothing to do with the Quran and Muhammad. Muhammad made up the verses and someone wrote them down. The Quran is so incoherent and stupid that clearly show he was an illiterate man.
The above verses are not from God. They are what Muhammad said to Meccans when he first started saying he is a prophet. These were his arguments. He told them everyone has a prophet and I want to be yours. When they rejected him and he found a bunch of fools in Yathrib who believed him he began dreaming of conquering Persia and Syria.
Mr.Sina,
Who wrote the Qur'an? was it really God?
Mohammad was illiterate