Trees saying Shahadah
Islamic sites exhibit this picture with the following notes:
“The branches of the trees lining a path distributed in the shape of declaration of the Islamic creed in the Arabic language that affirms the Oneness of Allah(swt) and the Prophethood of Muhammad(saaw).”
It reads:
‘La ilaha Illahau Muhammad-ur-Rasulullah’ There is no deity but Allah(swt) and Muhammad(saaw) is the Messenger of Allah(swt).
This is said to be a scene on a piece of cultivated farmland in Germany. Many Germans have been said to have embraced Islam upon seeing this miraculous sight and that the German government put steel fences around that part of the farm to prevent people from visiting and witnessing this miraculous site.”
None of these sites give the address of this place and there is no other picture of these trees taken from another angle. That is because this is an oil based painting on canvas. Pay attention to the top right corner; you can even see the wrinkles of the canvas. It is not stretched properly. But this is not the whole picture.
The whole picture is this one. Here on the left there is another row of trees that read Muhammad Rasul Allah. (Muhammad is the messenger of God) This sentence in Arabic is much more elaborate and makes the reader suspect of the forgery. May be that is why most Islamic sites just content themselves with the right side of the picture.
Isn’t it silly for God to send messages to people in this way, especially in a field in Germany where people cannot read Arabic and the authorities bar it so people cannot see it? Muslims are so ready for violence about trivial things that would kill 200 people if a reporter says Muhammad would have married one of the contestants attending Nigeria beauty pageant. Would they really remain silent if German authorities try to bar them from seeing this “miracle”? What is the address of this place? It does not matter to Muslims. They WANT to see miracles. Anything will do even a painting like this.
Dear Julia – we have gone over this again and again . . . I do not answer net trolls – as it is time waste. If you drop your attitude – I will.
What is the point of bothering someone who is just going to swear at you? That would be my stupidity. If you wish to have a serious conversation . . .
1. Stop writing in Capitals.
2. Adopt a civil attitude – by no swearing or petty insults.
It isn't much to ask.
To Aminriadh.
I think you are a real Islam Scholar.
Can you answer for me some questions?
1) What do the strange letters Alif,Lam,Meem in surah 2:1 mean? There are more surahs like this.
allsh says that his Quranis WITHOUT DOUBT, EASY TO UNDERSTAND and EXPLAINED IN DETAIL.
2) Why is the pre-islamic pagan IDOL the BLACK STONE STOLL IN the kaaba? And why do muslims prostrate to that thing and kiss it??
LISTEN EDUCATED!
The AZAN shouts evil and stupid sh!t , for example, surah 2: says: ALIF ,LAM,LEEM ,which is very supid. Or evil and violent surahs like 9:5 ; 9:29.
And suicide killong is what your evil fake god allah likes very much if you kill some infidels ! Surah 9:111says : "They fight in the cause of Allah , so they kill and are killed."
AND SO IT GOES ON AND ON .
So keep your evil lies to yourself and SHU UP !!
I emailed you something but no response.Plz check out ur email
Why did you repeat this 3 times?
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Then isn't it better not to make such statements:
" i am a student of Science and believe it to be the only way possible to understand Reality."
You don't have enough knowledge. I am not saying you don't make your mind up about – what believe/not-believe in. . . . but making such head-strong and absolute statements? A little humbleness perhaps?
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The word scholar can mean both – a student and teacher.
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"so may be you can guide me towards better understanding of science, religion etc. "
a) It is not really my job to do so.
b) It is near enough impossible to have a meaningful discussion on this site. Limited contact.
c) Especially as I would classify this site to be of particularly vicious hate monger.
Dear aminriadh…. for me the basic and ultimate objective of religion, science, philosophy etc is to find Reality. if u think religion is the Truth, then there must be some reason behind it and i respect u and your reasoning. i totally agree with religion when it says, dont lie, dont kill, dont rape, dont steal etc…. i think these are all the common terms between us. yess surely i would love to talk about physics, chemistry, biology……. although i havent claimed myself to be a scholar, look i just said i am a student…so may be you can guide me towards better understanding of science, religion etc.
A whole lot of people who don't believe in religion automatically begin to assume and put about – that they understand "science" and claim it is their "big thing". . . one little challenge and it is painful to see them crash.
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Sina himself is the same way . . . he has read a list of "fallacies" and assumed that he has good grasp of Logic. . . . one hint of a challenge and he scarpered.
Yet . . . I severely doubt beyond the names – you know anything about their work. This is very easy to verify. . .
I doubt you know Physics at all. . . especially to claim:
"i think this universe is operating according to the laws of Physics. "
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Would you like to speak about . . . the universe? In physics terms? Lets start with why "nothing" is impossible to achieve?
hehehehhe ok i got you when will these fanatics learn:(
Hehehehehehe…………ok i got you. when will muslims learn:(
The reply to you earlier was by Ali the sinner – the stupid Muslim and not Dr. Ali Sina.
Pls scroll down some of your posts and see the clarification given by Ali Sina.
The reply to you earlier was by Ali the sinner – the stupid Muslim and not Dr. Ali Sina.
Pls scroll down some of your posts and see the clarification given by Ali Sina.
The reply to you earlier was by Ali the sinner – the stupid Muslim and not Dr. Ali Sina.
Pls scroll up some of your posts and see the clarification given by Ali Sina.
The reply to you earlier was by Ali the sinner – the stupid Muslim and not Dr. Ali Sina.
Pls scroll up some of your posts and see the clarification given by Ali Sina.
Sara, This person posting as Ali with an email address [email protected], is not me. Please don’t confuse him with me. He believes all apostates are fake. His brain does not allow him to accept the truth. It will heat up and explode. That is why he says you are as real as Batman.
But call it a bias or misconception or my mistake,,, both of us who share almost everything couldnt understand each other so now we cant get along. i take the responsibility for this mishap..I am sorry. i wount pray for you as literally i dont believe in Prayers but yeah i can offer u best wishes:) Best of luck. honestly and seriously ,,,,,i really dont know what went wrong:(
but Respected Ali Sina…… neither do i believe in any super natural stuff, i think this universe is operating according to the laws of Physics. i am a student of Science and believe it to be the only way possible to understand Reality. My Prophets are Socrates, Plato, Aristotle,Copernicus , Galelio, Johanes kepler, Einstein, Max Plank. Bertrand Russell. Charles Darwin, etc
but i am disappointed becoz of what u just said. u think i am trying to trap you and here muslims hate me becoz i dont believe in miracles, i believe muhammad to be a ….simply put ..i agree to whatever u say about him……
I thought if we two had the same dark islamic past and both of us now believe in Humanity…and in the principle of Golden Rule and that without this violent islamic cult world can be a better place then u can be of a great help to me
You are taking me wrong dear. But still i wount say anything bad in return. i believe you are genuine and Real:(. Just keep up the good work:)
You're about as real as Batman Sara. Why do you guys always come up with the same tripe?
Dear Ali Sina…… thanx for your reply. Yes i am using Internet anonymously as i dont have the courage to speak the truth even in my own home, what a pity it is:( but i think you will be a great help for me as you also have suffered being a muslim.
You know its holy (evil) month of Ramadan lol…. To me fasting doesnt make any sense. All of my family fasts for the entire month but i damn care about it,unfortunately all i can do is to drink alot of water when nobody is watching… I cant understand why is it a compulsion?:( as u say u were a muslim early in your life,so did u ever fast? please tell me what were your feelings during fasting? what about prayers and other (shitty) stuff? How and when did you get rid off all this bullshit?
If you live in an Islamic country it is better not to say anything that may put your life and freedom in danger. Use the Internet anonymously and say what you want.
Ali Sina…… i think u r doing a great service to humanity by unfolding these myths, but dont u think u might be at risk because these fanatics can harm u for speaking the truth?????? even here in my country its a law not to speak a word against Mauhammad 🙁 so can u plz advise me how should we ,the rational people live in a society like this where religion is backed by the State??????
I know it is a painting. It is the countless Muslim sites who claim it is a miracle. Go and tell them it is a painting. You come here confirming what I said and then say I failed? Hahaha idiot.
author is idiot, this picture is drawn by someone, and guy admitted that he drawn it but someone used it as miracle. It's just missunderstanding and it has nothing with islam. Sina, you fail again and again, i'm sorry for you. If my english would be better I'd call you on debate and i'm only 20 and know more about Islam than you idiot who is trying to find fake hadiths and "expose" islam. Hahaha idiot.
Well as an observer I think if you want a correct view on Islam I think you should read the Quran, not Dr "IDIOT" sina's book. Its a really stupid way for stupid people to fall into stupid traps through stupid authors. People who revert into islam dont just do it. they have researched! If you still deny, then Judgement day is waiting for you
Allah should have given Muslims logic and brain…
Thanks for the auspicious writeup. It in fact was once a leisure account it. Glance complicated to far introduced agreeable from you! By the way, how could we be in contact?
Because you haven't read it yet. When are you going to bring your comments on the materials?
You are againg reposting the same comment.
People like you always come in to the site thinking you know everything when you really know very little. Educated is not a proper user name for someone in your position. Islam does not deserve respect. You can get an introduction to the evidence here. It shows Muhammad was:
a narcissist a misogynist a rapist
a pedophile a lecher a torturer
a mass murderer a cult leader an assassin
a terrorist a madman a looter
Click on each attribute for an introduction to the evidence. For madman you have to read Dr. Sina's book. He will send you a free copy in email if you don't want to buy it. http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-cha… http://alisina.org/understanding-muhammad/
Once you study Islam, you will be ashamed to be called a Muslim.
You are utterly disrespectful towards Islam. REAL Muslims do not judge what non-Muslims think unless it is a direct attack on religion, like what you are stating. And what is being said on the loudspeakers is the azan, not some guys "screaming shit". And it is done 5 times a day. It is very apparent your are not educated in the fields of Islam. And for your information, committing suicide is HARAAM!
You have to be careful what you say to those guys if you live around them. I never bring religion up unless they do first. And then I never say anything like why do you guys scream shit over loud speakers 6 or 7 times a day or what if one part of the koran is not correct. But they can’t be talked to like this or its out with the prostilization bombs.