How I Met Jesus: The Journey of an Atheist

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Over a year ago I announced that I have accepted Jesus, while at the same time I said that I don’t believe the Bible is the word of God. This prompted several friends, both Christians and atheists to question me about it.

It appears to them that my position is contradictory. “If you don’t believe in the Bible, how you could possibly know Jesus,” ask my Christian friends. My atheist friends ask how I could believe in Jesus when the only book that talks about him is a book of fables and myths. The questions are similar. So I will give the same answer to both.

I understand that my views are not welcomed by anyone. Atheists are pissed off because I now believe in God and Christians don’t accept my version of faith in Jesus, since it is not based on the Scriptures. Many Hindus have been very angry and some have even reviled me on Twitter and I don’t think I can count on Muslim’s love either.

Why any sane person would adopt a position that angers everyone? Am I a masochist? Why would I want to alienate the entire world and say things that no one likes? No I don’t think I am insane. I think my views are the only sane ones. Okay, you heard that before.

Now, speaking seriously, the truth is that I never cared what others think about me. All that matters is that I should be at peace with my conscience. I always said, be a prophet to yourself. I didn’t mean it quite literally, but apparently that is what I have become. My version of religion is entirely mine. It may not be unique. If it is true, many others may have come to the same conclusion. Truth is not exclusive. Perhaps they don’t talk about it because they don’t want to piss everyone off. I am the reckless one. If my views are true, they will eventually overcome all other views. If I am wrong, as I have often been, I see this as another stepping stone to higher understanding.

I confess that I always thought of Jesus highly. However, I considered him to be a mythological figure. Sometimes people asked me, if I have such a high regards for Jesus why I don’t accept him. I would tell them jokingly, Can i be an atheist Christian? God to me was fairytale.

I did not believe in God because I was not convinced of the evidence presented. In fact there was none. Materialism is not completely convincing either, but it sounded more rational. Considering the absence of evidence of a spiritual world, it made more sense to believe that this world is all there is and once we die, that is it. Not only it made more sense I was happy with that too. Life sucks! One is too many.

My views changed about a year and half ago when I stumbled upon the testimonies of people who had died and had come back to life. Many of them were resuscitated by their doctors and a few had woken up on their own, sometimes after spending a few days in the morgue, of course dead. I watched one, and then two and then more and I was hooked.

These people woke up with strange stories. They claim they never lost consciousness and that they were fully awake and aware of everything even when they were dead with no heartbeat and no brain activity. They saw the doctors operating on them, their body lying on the operation table, and sometimes went through the walls and saw their relatives in the waiting room or the chapel and heard their conversation. Not only did they not lose consciousness they had gained acute sensory perceptions that they had not experienced before.

They saw their body from the vantage point of being out of it, as if looking down at another person hovering over them. Although the experiences vary, many of them went through a tunnel, at the end of which they encountered a being of lite, sometimes in the form of a man. They explain that the light has masculine voice, even though the conversation is not communicated verbally. It is made telepathically. He is very authoritative while very loving.

The light embraced them. He sometimes hugged them, and some even sat on his lap like a baby. He told them they were safe and they felt absolute bliss and extraordinary sharpness. They felt so much love that if they were to experience it in their physical body they won’t be able to stand it. Clearly this being could not be Allah who according to Muhammad hides behind the veil. I wonder why Allah does not show his face? Is it because then people will see he is an imposter?

I watched hundreds of these videos. I must have seen most of them. These are testimonies of people of diverse backgrounds. Some were Christian. Others were Hindu, Buddhist, Jew, atheist, and even Muslim. Some were old and some still toddler. Many of these people saw Jesus. Muslims did not see Muhammad. Hindus did not see Hindu gods. It appeared that Jesus was a big shot there. If you believe these guys you’d say that he really has a kingdom up there.

Now, I am a rationalist, Things must make sense or they are nonsense. This whole think sounded so wacky. How can I believe in spirits and angels? Angels? That is ridiculous. But some of these stories were told by atheists who just like me, laughed at the idea of such mythological creatures.

Well, maybe these experiences are just the “last hurray of a dying brain,” as some pseudo-skeptics have put it. But that makes no sense! Why a dying brain needs a last hurray? Explain that from the Darwinian point of view.

There is compelling and irrefutable evidence that these experiences are not the function of the dying brain. They take place when the brain flat-lines. It means it ceases to function. When neurons don’t fire up, no imagination can take place, no thought can occur. Pseudo-skeptics argue that the brain cells are still alive. But they have to communicate to generate thoughts, if indeed thoughts are the function of the brain.

This is a strong argument in favor of the independence of consciousness from brain, but there is one that is still stronger, actually irrefutable! Many of these “dead people” accurately reported what those around them did and said when they were dead. Their ears were plugged, their eyes were covered, their heart had stopped and their brain had flat-lined. Yet, they could see everything from above with total clarity, and reported them accurately after they were brought back to life. A born blind woman said that she was able to see for the first time, including her own body. She had never seen anything in life.

There is no other explanation for such phenomena other than consciousness is independent from body and outlives it.

Sometimes these otherworldly observations are witnessed by the caregivers and the relatives of the dying person. Raymond Moody has collected several such stories, in his latest book Shared Death Experiences.

After watching dozens of these verified stories I had no other choice but to believe in the survival of consciousness after death. It seems that death is only a transition from one dimension to another. We don’t die. Consciousness survives. This is true also for animals, plants and bugs. Anything that is alive has consciousness and consciousness is indestructible. Those who are interested in quantum physics know that information is indestructible. Consciousness is information.

Scientists are now starting to believe that the universe is only a hologram and that the reality is somewhere else. This confirms the tale of the near death experiencers who say there are plants and animals in heaven and everything is conscience. Everything vibrates with love. Love is the motor of the universe. It is the force behind everything.

Today’s science cannot detect consciousness. But the independence of consciousness is now observed and confirmed. If you watch a lot of testimonies of people who died and came back, it will be impossible to deny that.

Observation rules! Observation is above science. It is above logic. Science has been proven wrong time and again thanks to observation. In fact that is how science evolves. When observation and science collide, the latter must give in to remain relevant. Observation has the last word. The evidence is there for those who want to see. Many refuse to see because they have already made their mind and are willfully ignorant. And people can deceive themselves with faulty logic.

Consciousness is another name of spirit. It appears that we are spiritual beings, having a physical experience.

This knowledge shifts our paradigm completely. I no longer see myself as a mortal being. We are all spiritual beings, connected with each other and with the universe. As spirit I am eternal. I am not a creation of God. I am a piece of God, in the same way that a molecule is a piece of the ocean and like the ocean from which it emanates, it is eternal. A better analogy is to say I am a copy of God. He made us in His image. This is not unique to humans. All living and sentient beings are made in the image of God.

We are all one. The separation between us is illusory. We all come from the same Source and are made from the same essence. We are divine beings.

I said many near death experiencers saw Jesus in heaven, but that is not the only reason I believe in him. Suddenly the words of Jesus started to make sense to me. Suddenly I saw the depth of his knowledge and the vastness of his understanding.

I am older than Jesus. I am more learned than him. I have a doctorate and have read hundreds of books. I have traveled and I am familiar with many cultures and creeds. I live in the age of the Internet. I have all the information at the tip of my finger. Jesus had none of that. I doubt he had read a single book in his entire short life. Books were not in print back then. How could he have access to so much spiritual insight if he was not connected to the Source?

It takes an expert to recognize the value of something. I read the words of Jesus many times and they sounded nice. It took me decades of learning and search to understand they are not nice. They are portals to divine knowledge. Jesus could not have said them if he had no access to divine knowledge. And unless you have a piece of divine in you, you cannot notice that, as I didn’t all these years.

We all have that piece of divine in us. For many it remains dormant their entire life. They eat and defecate, they copulate and procreate, they step on each others heads and trample others to get ahead and then they die and suddenly become aware, they did not activate the divinity in them, that all that they had striven for were meaningless. That they really screwed up and missed their chance. What a waste of life!

One day, after watching the testimony of a Muslim who had died and had seen Jesus, who not only healed his physical body but also gave him the power to heal others I sat on my knees and prayed to God to accept me as His own. I asked Him to guide my steps, to illumine my path, and to be my shepherd.

Please don’t misunderstand me. God has no religion and he cares not about what we believe. He cares how much we love. The reason Islam will not lead you to God is because there is no love in this faith. To the extent that you follow Muhammad you get away from God. He only taught hate. But you can be saved if you are a Hindu, a Buddhist or an atheist as long as you have love in your hearth. Jesus said he is the Way and no one will come the Lord except through him. He was talking about love. The path to God is love. You are not saved if you claim to follow Jesus while you hate everyone.

You can have any religion or no religion and if you love, God loves you. I know many Hindus that are consumed with hatred of Christians and even Jews. I have great respect for Hinduism, and do meditation. Hindus sages had found some techniques that allowed them to travel out of their body, which allowed them to observe things from a different perspective. But the path to God is through love. That is the only way.

You ask why I don’t accept the Bible. My question is why should I? Apart from the fact that nowhere in the Bible it says it is the word of God, and each book has the name of its alleged author attached to it, the Bible is a book of myths and ancient legends. It is scientifically wrong. We don’t descent from a couple called Adam and Eve. Our physical body is product of billions of years of evolution.

The God that I rejected was the God of the Bible. I still reject that god. I accepted the living God. He is the God of reason, not of fairytale. All the arguments atheists make against God is based on the fallacies they find in the Bible. They are winning because those who claim to believe in Jesus cling to this book of fairy tales and absurdities and are not willing to let go.

I don’t say the entire Bible is false. Think of it as a gold mine. There is gold in it, but much of it is dirt. Most people cling to the dirt and can’t even see the gold. They are spiritually blind. These are the ones who are so obsessed with observing the law that ignore the entire message of Jesus that was love. They think they have found the truth and dislike everyone else who does not agree with their understanding.

The message of Jesus can be condensed in the parable he made in Matthew 25. This is not just a nice parable. It shows Jesus knew about our divine essence. He knew the only way to love God is by loving his creatures. God is in all beings. When you love someone or even an animal, you love God. If you think you love God while your heart is filled with hatred of his creatures, you love only your fantasy. God is here, among us. He is in your spouse, in your neighbor. He is in all living beings. When you cheat someone, you cheat God, when you feed someone you feed God and when you mistreat an animal you mistreat God. The universe is the reflection of Divine. You can only love God by loving sentient beings that reflect his consciousness.

Over 20 years ago I read a book containing stories written on tablets unearthed in 1950s that had been buried for 4000 years. Many of the stories were the same you find in the Bible. It is clear that the Bible is a collection of ancient stories of Sumerians, Canaanites, Moabites, Philistines and Mesopotamians.

If it were not for the Bible I would have accepted Jesus much sooner. I don’t owe anything to this book of fables, absurdity and even obscenity. I owe my salvation to the people who died and were lucky enough to actually meet Jesus in person, and to the Holy Spirit that came to me, confirmed me in my faith and solaced my heart. Yes Jesus is alive and he runs a kingdom.

I trust the testimony of thousands of people who met Jesus and God in person, who are alive and whose faces I can see on YouTube. If you are a Christian by the Scriptures you rely on the testimony of a few early Christians who heard about Jesus decades later and did not meet him in person. There is evidence that the guys i rely on are sincere. Their experience has changed them completely. Many of them changed their careers, became more altruistic and less materialistic. I don’t doubt the sincerity of the guys who wrote the Gospels. I doubt however the authenticity of their sources. It seems there is a lot of ancient stories, predating Jesus that have crept into the Gospels.

This testimony offends Christians, because I say their holy scriptures is mostly legend of the ancient people, predating the Bible. It offends people of other religions because I declare Jesus is the son of God, and it offends atheists because they just can’t stomach any of it. So be it. I have found God. He is sufficient to me. He loves me and I love him and I can’t wait to do what I have been assigned to do in this world then fly to my Lord and meet Him again. I yearn for His embrace.

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66 Responses

  1. alisina says:

    No I don’t think Jesus was a Buddhist or he ever traveled to India. Jesus had more understanding of reality and truth than Buddha. He was a much bigger spirit than Buddha. Therefore it is not possible to think Jesus learned everything from Buddha. Buddha was not sure that God exists while Jesus was absolutely sure of that. No soul greater than Jesus even has come to the Earth.

    The fur Gospels were written some 30 to 60 years after Jesus and they do not contradict each other.

  2. Maverick says:

    Dear Ali Sina,
    Recently I learned that Jesus may be a Buddhist monk (like Bodhidharma) that explained the lost years of Jesus. The Bible was written some 500 years after Jesus’ death, compiled by selectively chosen gospels that contradicted each other and so can’t be taken too seriously.
    Do you think it is possible that Jesus may be a Buddhist monk sent to the Middle East/Rome to spread Buddhism (just like Bodhidharma was sent to China to spread Buddhism)?

  3. Sinha says:

    Dear AliSina,

    I generally have a Hindu outlook inspite of its faults – the biggest reason being it allows people to make a personal choice of God. So from the point of view of a Hindu, I just wanted to say that I am very pleased for you that you have found Jesus. Jesus is a very positive force in the world. My spouse became an atheist several years ago and now he is agnostic.

    Congratulations!

    Best regards

  4. beuverta says:

    It is not crazy at all. I hear many people who love Jezus and don’t follow the Bible. Because he was an enlightend person. You don’t have to belong to a church to follow Jezus. Au contraire it is easier and cleaner to have your personal relation with him.

  5. Jhans says:

    Dear Nr. Sina, I am very happy to.hear that now you a Jesus follower. I still remember about two years ago, after I read a few of your artikel, I seriously pray for you, I pray that some day, Jesus will open your eye and see the truth in.Jesus Christ. I believe that a lots of people do the same thing.

    I only read your artikel again today and could not believe it until I finish read it. Thank.God. He is so good. He is alive. My father visited by Jesus personally about 30 year ago. And Jesus still doing it until now..

    I hope you continue reading the bible..it is not just a myth, but word of God. Read rhe bible from diff angle and you will see it differently.

    Thank you mr. Sina for everything and all the best for you.

    Shalom!!
    Malaysia

  6. Agniputra says:

    Heavens and hells are illusions-created by mind.
    http://metaphysicalmusing.com/articles/early_articles/heavens.htm

  7. Amin Riadh says:

    “The Bible is the written revelation of God to man”

    It appears you do not know much about the Bible. Its first 4 books are life account of Jesus. So where is the revelation? The older Bible might have had some true revelations… but with all the nonsense added to it…

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    “when the apostle John wrote the last books, the Gospel of John”

    So God was dictating life of Jesus to this person? Why and how?

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    Then you nee to look up Canonization of Bible. Because Bible of today isn’t the Bible of yesteryear.

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    You have a long way to go…

  8. PapaRomeo says:

    “Over 20 years ago I read a book containing stories written on tablets unearthed in 1950s that had been buried for 4000 years. Many of the stories were the same you find in the Bible. It is clear that the Bible is a collection of ancient stories of Sumerians, Canaanites, Moabites, Philistines and Mesopotamians.” “It seems there is a lot of ancient stories, predating Jesus that have crept into the Gospels.”
    Well, maybe it is the other way round. It may be that the ancient people copied from the Word of God. The Word of God was there from the very beginning of the civilization, right from the time of Adam and Eve. “not in words taught by human wisdom, but in taught by the Spirit, communicating spiritual (things) by spiritual (means)” 1 Cor 2:13.
    I think it is a point of view arising out of belief and unbelief.

  9. PapaRomeo says:

    “You ask why I don’t accept the Bible. My question is why should I? Apart from the fact that nowhere in the Bible it says it is the word of God, and each book has the name of its alleged author attached to it, the Bible is a book of myths and ancient legends.”
    The Bible is the written revelation of God to man, which he caused men to write down so that a permanent record might be available for all. In Exodus 17:14 we read that “the Lord said unto Moses, Write this for a memorial in a book,” etc. Then chapter 24:4 says, “Moses wrote all the words of the Lord.” Here we have Moses expressly commanded of God to write in a book, and the statement that he wrote the words of the Lord. He did not copy them from elsewhere, neither did he write his own thoughts, as the critics say, but God’s words. Later he could say to Israel, “these are the words when the Lord hath commanded” (Exodus 35:1).
    In this work human instruments were used, men from various walks of life, who lived in different places and at different times. The entire Bible was written by some 35 to 40 persons during a period of about 1600 years. It was around 1500 BC when Moses commenced to write the first five books, call the Pentateuch, and around 97 AD when the apostle John wrote the last books, the Gospel of John and the book of Revelation.
    This is what is so wonderful about Bible. It is written by different persons but yet it is a one complete book, one complete comprehensive story. No two men can write the same thing neither can they agree with each other. This shows in reality that the actual author of the Bible is not the person writing the letters but some other who is in complete control of the whole affairs for 1600 years. The Bible says, “the prophesy came not in old time by the will of man; but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost” (2 Peter 1:21).
    The Holy Spirit of God, then, is the author of the sacred Scriptures and He caused the many human instruments employed to use His words and to write the thoughts of God. These men of God, chosen to write the various parts of the Bible, were under the moving influence of the Holy Spirit as they wrote; and their minds and thoughts were so controlled that they wrote the very words of God. This proved by the fact that there is a divine unity throughout Bible, and that one writer does not contradict the other. There is a marvelous harmony and unity of design and purpose throughout its pages on diverse subjects by many different writers of different ages.

  10. PapaRomeo says:

    What is your realm of existence?…come back to reality. 🙂

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  12. JAC says:

    Dear Mr Sina, – Ditto. I’m in the same state of mind as you. I’ve met Jesus. I have the call. But it’s near impossible ‘marrying’ this w/ my atheistic modern mind.
    I am a multiple NDEr. I have been repeatedly killed & murdered once. I’ve been dead for long over 20mins (blood plasma split) & quite easily up to an hour. It’s not known how long I was dead before my corpse was discovered. I’ve always just tried to follow JC (I’m not very good at it, but I do try). I felt the same way about the Bible. I’ve only just found out how to use it. I’ve had for decades a group of mozlems & satanists destroy my family & life. Islam is completely of the devil. I know I’ve met scumbag allah. The Bible has the perfect opposing poetic code to destroy Islam. It’s the polar opposite. The mozlems & satanists have 100% been utilizing ‘black magic on us. I only began to realize & take this seriously when the Turk mozlems sent myself, my friend & her friend (I didn’t even know) Hellhounds. That’s 3 witnesses. If Islam ain’t from hell why are they using Cerberus? My mother who had just radically died came back screaming. Cerberus came right up to my ear & did this ungodly howling & snarling then slagged in my ear really hard. W/ my friends it only jumped on their chests & did the howling & snarling. I didn’t know what to do about it – there is no way for the contemporary mind to deal w/ pre science. The only thing I could think of was to deal w/ it thru anthropology & follow my genetics. In the end I just turned it over to God/JC. Almost a yr later nov 2014 I was asleep & an Asian man came to my bedside. He was wearing what Jesus was wearing in heaven.
    I’ve got to sidetrack here. Jesus & most light workers wear a simple sheath just pinned a the front of the neck. The pic you’ve got on the story is fabric overkill. These very little fabric. Nobody cares about nudity. It would be perfectly fine if every one on earth was naked. You know something is wrong when people are screwed up over nudity & wearing swathes of fabric. Mozlems are the perfect example of this. I actually wear something different but it has nothing to do w/ rank. I think its so people can recognize that I’m playing a role & that’s my costume. I used to always wear the thin white sheath until my las visit to heaven when I got the call I had this little vanilla milk coloured smock. It has a low cut square neckline. It’s made of super thin linen & has the same quality as a silk kabuki robe, in that it seems lighter than air. I have bare feet, wear no cross, or any jewellery, & just carry a plain stick. (???) don’t know what the stick is for.
    Anyway this man came to my bedside in the dreaming. He flashed a scalpel in front of my eyes. He then proceeded to do a lengthy operation underneath my face & all inside my ear & the side of my head where Cerberus spat. I also got attacked by a big black thing & had menangitis on another previous occasion. The surgeon worked for ages. I began to go – whoa this is long. I woke up. Got up walked around then went back to bed. The moment I went to sleep the operation continued. He never even moved from the position he was in. He took out a huge quantity of something horrible. I’m really shocked as his operation made me realize that I must have been going to die from this.
    So my vote is going w/ God, JC & his crew. I realized the reason I can do that & still be modern is God exists in the era we are living in.
    I have to give special credit to the Bible. It’s alot more than we realize.

  13. Frankie Lee says:

    Powers Kirsten willing to accept Christ,turn from being a hardened atheist,and she had solid proof of God after ,that He is real,not just evaluating and thinking about those evidences anymore,and go by inferences.

    God will ead you to Solid Proofs once you begin to believe in Him,and there are many ways God will show up fro you once you align yourself with the Truths,repent of tour sins and embrace the Lord Jesus.

    By being a friend of Jesus,Truths will be shown to you,for whosoever seek,they shall find.

    Kirsten seen our Lord Jesus in Taiwan.She is still a very well known Commentator in Fox news and various Liberal places.

    What we have in package by belieiving in Jesus?We have peace,forgiveness and joys.We can experience Answered Prayers.Our minds are very much clearer.

    We are truly enlightened.We don’t tell lies anymore.We obey our Lord’s commandments: We love one another.

  14. Mike Minich says:

    Dear Mr. Sina,
    🙂
    I have to say I am one who pondered your presentations of Jesus in your discussions.
    You say that the evidences from peoples near death/death[still alive] have been compelling and I think it is awesome you have followed those so closely.

    I do believe you will find actual eyewitness evidences even better than those in the Biblical accounts of Christ also.

    Love.

    God IS LOVE 1 John 4:8
    God so LOVED the world… John 3:16
    Pursue Love… 1 Corinthians 14:1 [& all of 13]
    The Goal of our instruction is LOVE from a pure heart. 1 Timothy 1:5

    I believe that you will find all you seek is ALL there in the Bible Ali. No man would accept God if we did not have His Word.

    2 Peter 1:16-21 For we did not follow cleverly devised tales when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty. For when He received honor and glory from God the Father, such an utterance as this was made to Him by the Majestic Glory, “This is My beloved Son with whom I am well-pleased”— and we ourselves heard this utterance made from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.

    So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

    Prayers for your journey brother.

  15. Iceback2000 says:

    Dear Mr. Sina,
    I’ve been an ardent supporter of virtually everything you’ve written for nearly 10 years. You have had a tremendous influence on my thinking and understanding of things political and philosophical. What a fascinating evolution in belief you have made. I wish to congratulate you whole-heartedly on your discovery of faith! As a non-religious person, I thank you for providing a unique perspective on how to regard faith and Jesus. I hope you continue to provide unique insights on how to interpret the spiritual dimension.

    (And for those who are so quick to judge, consider that you may be missing an opportunity to learn something new from a man who has sincerely and brilliantly pursued religious truth for many years!)

    Love to all.

  16. Gil says:

    Well, mister Sina, I’ve been reading you for years, from a website to another. I always found your texts very powerful in deterring the pretentions of islam.

    After the assassinations I heard of in France recently, I thought I’d like to know where you’re at these recent times. I typed your name out and I now find that you declare yourself Christian. Welcome in the faith!

    I just want to address one mistake you make while expressing your disdain for the Bible:

    1.- The Bible cannot be an accurate science or history book, none so ever, even if archeology can trace a lot of its references. Fairytales always have a more or less valuable message to be pondered on. And if the Bible is from God to be heard, it is certainly worth to have an humble attitude in order to listen what those allegoric messages might be.

    2.- It is clear to me too that the Bible is a collection of ancient stories of Sumerians, Canaanites, Moabites, Philistines and Mesopotamians. But one has to know why they are this way gathered together in this specific book.

    3.- You explicitely quoted the Gospel in the present article. Does it mean that you have some trust in the value of it? Hence, I prompt you to check the verses where Jesus himself quotes the Old Testament and why he does so.

    4.- I can say that I’m probably one of the rare persons who read more than 80% of what you wrote. While reading, I always thought that a man like you could easily fall in love with Jesus. I thought that the righteous laser vision you developed along with the incisive yet respectful replies you gave away made you a tremendous apostle to be. I was’nt mistaken.

    5.- I have been clinging to your writings for the only reason that I saw in you a sort of brother soul. I always thought we were alike in many ways. I prayed for you for years so that you can see the light of Jesus. One thing I did myself that I’m humbly suggesting to you:
    After my conversion, I studies biblical theology in a famous university with erudite doctors. I think you seriously need to acquire a solid biblical base: The history of Salvation (past, present and future, as prophetized) which actually follows the same gradual process as our own personal salvation.
    Then only will you be able to measure what the Bible is about and … reject it eventually. Doing so, I have been personally very impressed and fascinated which I never thought it will happend to me!

  17. Frankie Lee says:

    Amin Riadh…

    Me:
    Whether or not Ali Sina was making Lies,we have eyes to see,and we can know.His excellent reasonings,and rational views,had won the world over.

    You make a Smear,was lamed.You only discredit yourself.There were many discussions… he had with countless of Muslims.

    You are saying untruthful things here.

    Ali Sina excellent reasons… would make you a fool,any time of the day.

  18. Amin Riadh says:

    Sina is creature of simple lies and thoughts. He knows well where is bread is buttered from.

    Rational Atheists were never going to pay much heed to him and his nonsense.

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    Everyone’s religious experience largely conforms to their religions.

    If it isn’t then those people tend to convert away.

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    Muslim books and stories full of such experiences. Sina knows this full well but as I said he is prone to easy lies. And when these lies are challenged he has the habit of going quiet.

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    Atheists largely reject “Religious Experience” as evidence and this is already dealt with within Atheist/Scientific literature.

    Implication that NDE is something new is quite misleading and false.

  19. Frankie Lee says:

    There were others who had seen Hindu gods,could be also true.Lord Jesus had seen Satan also.

    As Jesus Himself said….there will be false witnesses and so were true witnesses.But for the False Ones,they shall go to the Lake.

  20. Raja says:

    Dear Mr Sina

    I am a Hindu, and have great regards for your points-of-view and the advise you give to a lot of people who seek it.
    I was a regular visitor till I first read about your new-found love for Jesus an year ago. I just visited the site again today, after a long time, and found this article, which prompted me to comment.

    I don’t know whether it is the attraction to Jesus, but I find your attaching human emotion of “love” to God, and your firm belief that “love is the only way” incorrect. If fear is not the way, then love is not the way either. No emotions can be attached to the Supreme One. HE is not a super human, HE is God.

    I believe the only way to God is to become one with his energy. I believe self-realization through enlightenment is the only way.

    I am perplexed by how someone like you, of your intellect and analytic mind, can base his beliefs on testimonies and conclude that since a lot of people had vision of Jesus and not of Mohammad or Hindu Gods, so Jesus must be accepted.

    By the way, there are many people who have claimed to have had visions of Hindu Gods and spiritual gurus too. But thatls besides the point I’m trying to make here.

    Regards,
    Raja

  21. AI Barbhuiya says:

    I welcome you for accepting the existance of God…
    If you consider observation principle is the ultimate authority…then there are many things to observe in this world which leads us to believe God or accepting the existance of God..
    You will also get many people who observed another creation other than human is jinn…you will get more people who observed it than you got in NDE…
    Also another evidence is how psychic told our past it is only with the help of jinn Qareen who always remain with us…
    Only based on one observation you can find God exists but you cannt say which is true religion…If you post your own view there will many question arise like all your reader arising now….
    You said you not fossillised your brain…
    For reson for this universe this is the video…http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b_y6Ndh2sMI&itct=CDsQpDAYASITCNrKzdWK8sICFc2gfgodE0AApFIUYW1hemluZyBhIGd1eSBhcmd1ZWQ%3D&gl=IN&hl=en&client=mv-google

  22. spamster says:

    Ali Sina, after reading your article, “How I Met Jesus: The Journey of an Atheist”, I can relate to your thoughts. I have had an experience like those of near death. However, I was not near death at all, it was merely the response of the deity to my sincere prayer. When you come to that realization, doctrine becomes less relevant and God becomes more real. Unfortunately many people get ensnared within the confines of doctrine and spend their lives trying to resolve the rhetorical contradictions and mythological phenomena. You are one of the very, very few people I have come across who actually understands the relationship between God and the individual and the natural universe. I am happy I happened to see your Facebook comment and look forward to reading more of your website. Yours, Tony

  23. Amin Riadh says:

    NDE – about always a Western Experience. Just like seeing Aliens.

    Now there are thousands of such claim out there… all similar.

    As is this seeing Jesus myth.

    They are all lies…

  24. Frankie Lee says:

    Near Death Experience,or those who were dead,came back to life,they testifies what they saw and heard.I believe many were telling the truths,for the rationales,testimonies cannot be false.

    Lord Jesus warned: All liars,those who bear false witnesses,made up tales,of deceits….the fearful,the unbelievings…shall have their part in the Lake of Fires.

    Kirsten Powers saw our Lord Jesus Christ in Taiwan,a few years ago.A very strong Atheist,very well known Liberal and always appear on National TV.I believe her.I believe Billy Graham.I believe Ronald Reagan.Mick Hukabee.I believe Newt Gingrich.I believe their witnesses..

    If Jesus really was risen from the dead,surely there must have witnesses,right?How many witnesses should be enough for you to believe?In Courts,two witnesses can convict a person.

    John 11;47,48. Lord Jesus was so sure that the Gospel is good enough to convince the world,for He will work among us,with signs and wonders,healing the sick.

    Jesus do miracles when he was a human,what about now having an indestructible body,glorified body,can He not do far much greater,far widescope and far awesome today?

    Many Muslims who had doubts of Islam,begin to just utter a few words to Lord Jesus,on whatever place there were in had seen Him,had revelations after after revelations,now became Christians of course.

    When you talk to a living person,and especially God,the invisible God,surely He knows how to respond to you.

    There was a woman who wanted to pray for protection from evils spirits.After an Evangelist prayed for her,the next day she approached the minister… horrified.

    She said she saw alot of white beings,and she was so scared.The minister query God.I pray for protection,and now she was even more terrified.Now she saw many beings of the spiritual.Lord Jesus appeard to him and said…I sent my Angels to protect her,and surround her,and by seeing them she…should be happy and glad…but…

    You will notice the word…ALL MEN WILL BELIEVE IN JESUS.

    The Gospel had power.
    The miracles of Jesus will continue and flourish.
    More and more will testify what they saw…after death and came back..and also those who did not die yet,still alive would told you how Jesus transform their lives,and answers their paryers.

    Jesus said its… in the Bible..if you do not believe in Me and my Words,you will go to Hell.
    He alone claimed…I have the Keys of life,death and Hell.No Conmen ever conceived such idea.( after I said something,somehow someone would just be nasty,or start to claim that.

    When I told the world,””prior to Ali Sina’s knowledge about that””,Muhammed had a child bride,6 years old…I received lots of attacks.

    When I told the world on AD/BC….the seculars work hard to change it..BCE…they won on this one.

    When I told the world of the IN God We Trust…they work hard to remove the signs…and it seems it is my fault,now they try hard to remove many Symbols of Christ in USA.

    Now I told the world,how USA and Western Countries honor the Bible,use it in Courts,to Swear in,now those Crooks are finding ways to destroy it.

    Now I told that Christians can smite ISIS terrorists blind,Boko Harem terrorists deaf and dumb,those Muslim crooks are trying hard to undestand it,and foolishly waiting to receive those curses.

  25. vinod says:

    Hey Ali. I am so thrilled to read the follow up on your spiritual journey. Ok lemme sum up. An atheist first begins to believed God exist, then Believes in Jesus as the embodiment of truth. Accepts Jesus as Christ. Still does not accept the Bible as Gods word. I love your journey. I have been praying for you n it is my firm belief that soon the remaining cobwebs will be cleared up for you.
    I once again would ask you humbly to consider a formal debate with William lane Craig or James white on the validity and the truth claims of the Bible. May God use you immensely for His kingdom.
    In Him
    Vinod

  26. Frankie Lee says:

    I am a Christian,I believe in the Bible,and I am a Charismatic Christian,known to cast out demons,heal the sick,with signs and wonders following, because Jesus is alive,He did that then and He is doing it again today.

    I know all about you,since you first started Faith Freedom,with very little support,and saw you have great support,and now even greater.I rejoice for you,very happy for you,and I prayed for you to be saved,and here you are.God answered my prayers.

    Like Kirsten Powers,she met the Lord Jesus face to face,was an atheist once.Billy Graham also seen our Lord Jesus.

    Do not dismissed the Bible as mythical or fairy tales.You are new to many spiritual things.All your ideas and objections are nothing new,and nothing rational at all.We are far more superior in comprehension of the Bible.

    God require your wisdom and good Logical reasonings to show the world who Jesus is,who is the Truth.You did very well in exposing Islam,and gain world’s audience and approvals,and your enemies feared you,or dread your Logics and reasons.

    Now God require you to make Him known and also show Muslims the path to Life.

    Your teacher will enlighten you,step by step.

    God bless you.

  27. Ali Sina says:

    I never said I am a Christian. I said I accepted Jesus as my Christ. As far as I understand Jesus is the son of God. We are all Children of God. But I don’t believe in any Christian dogma. I hear Christians say that if the Resurrection is false then Christianity must be false. I can only feel sorry for these people. I don’t believe in the Resurrection and it is easy for me to prove it is false. So All Christians have based their faith on a lie. That is why so many Christians are becoming atheist and that is why many of them fall into the trap of Islam.

    My faith in Jesus is not based on dogmas and irrational beliefs. I found Jesus through reason. In my view reason is above all things. I am hoping to one day write a book calling it God for the Rationalist. I hope to help atheists to find Jesus the way i did. I didn’t find Jesus through the Bible. That book is the biggest hindrance for the rationalists. All criticisms of Christianity is directed to that book. Now we are at a stage that we don’t need the Bible to fine the Christ.

    The language the Christians use is not comprehensible to rationalists. It is not convincing and they don’t know any other way to explain the truth of Jesus. I know the language of reason. I am a rationalist and I was an atheist. God can be known through reason.

  28. Ali Sina says:

    No, you did not hurt my feelings, but I don’t know what to tell someone who has no desire to listen. So what is the point? You probably heard of the parable of pearls Jesus used. But this is a public forum. I reply for those who actually want to know.

    I read and saw several hundred of stories of NDEs. Once in spirit you don’t have any problem recognizing other spirits. Everybody is known to everybody. People meet their grandparents whom they had never seen and it is as they have known them always. Sometimes the spirits have a body similar to us and sometimes they have no body at all. Still their identity is not questionable. They don’t even talk with words but the concepts are delivered accompanied with the tone of the voice and all the emotions. The identity of Jesus is never in question. Not everyone meets Jesus but those who do, know him.

    In regards to his father, he had two, just like the rest of us. His physical body was fathered by Joseph and God is the father of his spirit. Jesus does no longer exist in body. He did not ascend to heaven in body. That is the dogma of Christians. There is no room in the spiritual world for the matter. These worlds are of two different vibrations. So the Jesus that is living is the son of God. We are all children of God. The difference is that Jesus is bigger than us. He is the greatest spirit that ever walked on earth. There have been many great souls who came to this world. They evolved here and many of them will not come back again. Jesus did not have to come to this world. He chose to come knowing a priority the fate that he would suffer. He chose to come to tell us that his life is only a virtual reality. The kingdom of God is not in this world. He came to teach us that this life is not supposed to be easy. This I did not know until I heard it from a NDEs who heard it from Jesus.

    God cannot die. No one dies, not even an ant. Body is destroyed. The consciousness survives. So the question “How can God die?” is silly. It is like breaking your TV set and the claiming you killed the guy who was on it. This is such a simple concept and I see many otherwise intelligent people are so confused by it, even the Christians. Body and spirit are distinct.

    God is a guy. I don’t know why he does not show himself as a goddess. Some people say they did not see any gender and other say he was distinctly a male. Why is that so? I don’t know. I don’t know why I am a man and not a woman. How would I know why God is a male figure?

    You ask so many nonsensical questions. Who said there are no women in heaven? In fact we choose a different gender each time we reincarnate.
    Yes I know Allah is Muhammad himself. That is the whole premise of my book Understanding Muhammad.

    God has actually displayed Himself to everyone, but stupid people who have a veil on their eyes can’t see Him. This is not His fault. If you want to see God remove the veil from your eyes. From your attitude, it is clear to me that you are not even looking and will not See God even if He stands in front of you. Actually God is in front of every person. Every soul is a manifestation of God. Jesus taught this in a parable. Those who can see, see God in every tree, in every living being, in every human in in themselves. God has been around you all along and you never looked and will not look because you don’t want to look.

  29. Jason Ong says:

    Dear Ali Sina,
    I am a reader of faithfreedom a couple years ago but I left a year ago because I don’t want to waste my time for spirituality. Today, I am back, and quite suprised and dissapointed because of this article, but I am also glad about your decision, your God definition is same to mine (but I don’t accept the God as Jesus, I also did not denied it since I am not sure who is God, I know there is life after death)

    I think you can delete this article and create another website with different aliases since it will ruin the faithfreedom reader trust in you since some of readers may think you are a Christian which is not true since you denied the Bible and the Church.

  30. Lord Voldemort says:

    Mr Ali Siha,
    What makes you/ or your partner the thing you saw in NDE is God and why it should be Jesus. How do you Id him as Jesus does he said his name is Jesus. does he named who is his father is . Is is Julius Ceaser or any roman soldier, and who killed him, who sold him? and why the pathetic peter is worshiped as saint, he was a true roman mafia? and poor Judea was punished? and how can god can die, Isn’t if if the supreme one who created or manifest everything dies then whole world (all stars and galaxies are dies with him. or at least lost their orderliness ? and how he gets life back ? Why there is no goddess why Jesus also like Mohamad no women in heaven. and Why god is living in heaven is he seeking pleasure in heaven ? In Islam real god is Mohamad not allah. Allah is a metaphorical thought of Mohamad’s illusion. He need something to say something around it, that why he put stories around it and made it invisible to everyone including himself. Ha ha ha wonderful idea. was it yours like one?

    Please answer , don’t rattle around the stupid old stories and believes of nearly dead or fully senseless state of mind ?

    Sorry if i hurt your feelings but looks like you sold your soul for a very big paycheck. or a favor from the Vatican Gods. God is love , love is god every religion teaches the same but we people who do not follow. Please don’t create another god. If there is a god let him come out and display him or herself. not only to the selected band of bandits. until then we believe what we believe and do good things to others whatever the stupid religious books said.

    Thanks ,
    A reader

  31. Ali Sina says:

    I don’t think I am diluting my anti Islam rhetoric. My goal is to help Muslims leave Islam. This has not changed. But I often find them say, so what shall we believe if we leave Islam. Although i am not suggesting anyone should believe what I believe, I think I would be doing a disservice to my readers if I did not share with them my understanding of truth. I always emphasize that my understanding of truth is just that. It is strictly mine. Each person has to find his or her own light.

  32. raman says:

    Dear Ali Sina,

    I am visiting your site after few years and am surprised to find tha you have found Jesus.

    I am personally quite indebted to you – I have read several of your articles and they have been just EXCELLENT.

    Few of my observations are below :

    1. There is nothing wrong in believing anyone to be a god.
    2. But I feel you have done a disservice to your cause of exposing islam – in case you wanted to spread your new found love for Jesus – you should have done it at another site with another name and let Ali Sina be known to just expose Islam. You have diluted your attack.
    3. I hope you will delete your ‘love jesus’ from faithfreedom and alisina and take it to another site – where you can propagate Christianity or whatever else u want to call it.
    4. Most of what you propound is Vedantic Thought – minus the testimonies. I suggest you visit site scienceandnonduality (dot) com – there u find scientist PhDs, Philosophers, etc (ignore Deepak Chopra) – who try to bring together Vedantic Thought with the modern science.
    5. The thoughts of Einstein, Bhor, Schrodinger, Heisenberg, etc. are discussed along with the latest in Physics, Biology, etc.
    6. They dont come to any conclusion but stop at the wonder that life is.

    I too am a seeker of truth but have no fixed ideas – just wonder on what this life is.

  33. madhu says:

    Hi, There is nothing wrong in believing Jesus. He is a perfect role model for anybody.

  34. Robin says:

    Meditation will not help. Only right thought and action will help you.

    Jesus said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. – Matthew 18:3

  35. RK says:

    @Robin : “Jesus guarantees salvation.” –> Where is the document of this guarantee?
    The maharishi that i mentioned used to go so deep in his meditation that insects started eating his legs and he was not even aware of that. That is the kind of deep meditation that a person can achieve with practice and these are the people who actually see their conscience travelling. Doesn’t it look similar to people with NDE that experience same thing? The ones mentioned by Mr Sina in one of his articles.

  36. Robin says:

    “Tougher path is to actually be in spiritual plane through rigorous practice with no results guaranteed.” – This is not tougher path but hopeless path. Jesus guarntees salvation.

  37. Robin says:

    All that exist is not God but creatures of God, the Creator. God is Almighty; you are not. God can do which you cannot do.

  38. Destroyzionism says:

    @Vin so you admire santa claus ,Zeus and other mythical charecter alongside Jesus ?Do you know he lived in the era of historians yet none of those historians wrote of him..Allbwe have in his name is a forged account of Flavius in his book Isreali Antiquities…Even Flavius was not his contemporary and he wrote his antiquities after 74 years of Jesus’s supposed death..Why are you so lazy?do some research work..May Zeus Bless you And Thor gives you all the strength Amen…

  39. Destroyzionism says:

    @kavya ,Ali is growing dusional with every passing day..He deleted all his previous threads comprising of my comment regarding zionist involvement in numerous crimes..He expect brainwashed muslims to accept his argument while he himself dismiss arguments of others without looking into the facts he is being provided with..You can argue a hate monger,a brain washed but you can’t argue a hypocrite.now ,coming back to topic ,he dismiss bible but accept jesus lol.. how the hell did he get to know of jesus in first place ?It’s like accepting peter parker and dismissing whole of spiderman comics..Anyways ,everyone is entitled to his belief or opinions ,so guys don’t be harsh on him..Don’t act like zionists who bully every free country into submission by putting puppet government there and preaching cultural marxism..Look how they framed politically motivated charge against GD at the behest of JDL and other jewish bodies in Greece ,when they demanded Greece for Greeks..how you can land in jail in most of the European countries for not subscribing to official version of holocaust..but these so called fake proponents of free speech will cry millions of tears when they are not allowed to criticise islam..double standard?lol

  40. Abid Ali says:

    Dear Ali,

    Just you wrote:
    “If you have a small child, you know you can be both. if you love your child you will not allow him to do things that may hurt him. Will you let your child to play with rat poison or a knife? If you are a loving dad, you will certainly be very authoritative. If you are not authoritative then you can’t be a loving parent.”

    We procreate our children but we don’t create them. God is supposed to create us. If We could have create us, then we would not create them in a way that they never get hurt in any way; neither accidentally nor for any creative reasons. We wouldn’t need to be authoritative, but only loving. Would we?

    Thanks & best regards,
    Abid Ali

  41. Phoenix says:

    Hi Abid Ali

    I too have a few silly questions on God that I hope you can identify with.

    1.When was god born?
    2.Does god have an uncle?
    3.Why doesn’t god make the sun shine at night too?The moon does a lousy job.
    4.Why doesn’t god make the pencil on my desk move?
    5.Why didn’t god create the world the way I expect it to be?
    6.And if god did create it my way then why doesn’t he make it someone else’s way too?
    7.Why does god think I’m special?
    8.Why doesn’t god make us ask smarter questions?
    9.Why does my actions have consequences?
    10.Why didn’t god make us all perfect automatons incapable of sin?

  42. pran says:

    Good!!!

  43. Anand Sagar says:

    The belief that God is the creator and decides all things in our life is mistaken. God is the observer, not the creator. In the spirit realm, we choose our parents and life environment before we reincarnate into physical life but in the physical world we create our life events with our sponsoring thoughts with full freedom to choose and create. God does not intervene in our affairs. There is no such a place as hell and the only hell there is, is the one that we can create with our mind here in the physical world or in the spirit world just for a while if we choose to.

    There is nothing to learn or strengthen our spiritual muscle(because we already know all) or we are not coming into this physical realm for that purpose. We are coming here to experience full glory, experience who we really are.

    As for suffering, the duality of love and fear was purposefully created by God. In the Absolute world where God(our soul) resides, Love is all there is. God knew that there must be exact opposite of love for love to exist and know itself as pure love. God therefore voluntarily created the great polarity, that is, the absolute opposite of love. Everything that is not love which is called fear. With the existence of fear love exists as a thing that could be experienced.

  44. RK says:

    I have been your follower for many years and have utmost respect for you.
    But after reading your latest article regarding Jesus and i am slightly disappointed.
    And it is not because of your latest belief, it is because you have taken(in my opinion) a
    easier path in your quest for spirituality.
    Tougher path is to actually be in spiritual plane through rigorous practice with no results
    guaranteed. It is the path in which you have to calm your mind, get rid of that last thought and
    be in that state for hours and then enter spiritual plane. And it is not some fantasy, people have done it before(like Buddha and numerous other saints) . Please read about Maharishi Ramana, if you have time. There is a 16 page book written by his followers , “Who am i”. It is freely available on internet. You talk about love in your article, but do we even know what love is? Why is it good? What is good ? What is Bad? Aren’t these things our mind’s creation? Shouldn’t we practice to get hold of that ultimate truth, or at least get near to it.
    True love(the one where our mind is not deciding whether it is love or hate) will follow us, when all these imaginations of our mind are evaporated.

    The reason i want people like you and Sam Harris to follow this path is that i want this quest for spirituality to succeed in West.
    West is leading humanity today, most of the people are just following them blindly. I admire West for Science, Democracy and Human Rights etc, but it pains me that it creates a atmosphere in which (all most)everyone is crazy about materialist things . It is like we keep running after materialistic things like Zombies without asking ourselves why and then we die(whatever that means) one day. Only West can lead humanity out of this materialistic crazy atmosphere.

    But one issue(in a respectful way) i have with you and Sam Harris is that although you make extremely good arguments regarding spiritual philosophies etc., but you fail to realize that these arguments can only make our faith in spiritual forces stronger, they cannot make us actually be in that plane. They cannot give us control over our thoughts, it is the practice that will actually allow us to calm our thoughts. And it is not 15-20 minutes meditation, it is hours and that too daily.

    All saints (Indian and others) have stressed on this things that unless your brain is thoughtless (when you are not even aware of this body’s existence), you cannot enter that spiritual plane and start the journey. And yes it is the real journey where your consciousness is travelling through dimensions which cannot be described in physical terms.
    I think arguments are fine to make our beliefs stronger but we have to take this tough, boring(initially) path to realize the greater truth.

    I don’t know the purpose of your belief in Jesus, but to me it feels like the easier way out.
    I also believe in Jesus, but then i don’t believe only in Jesus. Concept of God could be beyond Jesus and maybe he was just the part of it.

  45. Ricardo Hotatio says:

    I am extremely glad you have come to know Christ.

    What you and I have in common is an extremely rational way of thinking. And as an experienced rational Christian here are some tips and remarks.

    – In everything be dependant on the Holy Spirit. (Romans 8:14-16)
    – Don’t become religious or legalistic.
    – Be baptised!
    – The Bible, everything in it, is the inspired word of God, over time you will come to realise it.

    2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

    Christ personal assurance at the end of Gods Word:

    Rev. 22:12    “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
    Rev. 22:14    “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
    Rev. 22:16    “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
    Rev. 22:17    The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.
    Rev. 22:18    I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
    Rev. 22:20    He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.”
      Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.
    Rev. 22:21    The grace of the Lord Jesus be with God’s people. Amen.

    Keep learning and buy a good Study Bible, I do recommend the ‘Fire Bible’: http://tinyurl.com/oz6zjhx

    About the age of the earth, study the Gap-theory:

    http://www.kjvbible.org/gap_theory.html

    Blessings,

    Richard.

  46. Abid Ali says:

    Dear Ali,

    This is Abid again with some more curious questions. I read your comment, your article as well you suggested in your comment. Thanks a lot for your reply. Whatever you believe now, I have read about them five years ago and would believe them too. Of course, they make sense more than what Muhammad portrayed about life after, heaven and hell; but still, they do not have all the answers of human inquisitiveness.

    You wrote in your article:
    “Life challenges are opportunities for us to strengthen our spiritual muscles. They are blessing in disguise. That we choose to come to this world, so we can experience it. You don’t see sufferings anymore as calamity but as challenges. The goal is to strengthen our spiritual muscles. We are here to strengthen our spiritual muscles, i.e. love, compassion, sacrifice, caring, chastity, confidence, courage, courtesy, creativity, detachment, diligence, dedication, enthusiasm, excellence, flexibility, forgiveness, forbearance, friendliness, generosity, gentleness…………… We don’t come here to be tested, but to learn. Just as we exercise our muscles so that they grow, we must also exercise our spiritual muscles for them to grow. How? By making them to overcome resistance! If you want to grow your muscles you work them out by making them overcome some resistance. The same is true for our spiritual muscles.”

    Strengthening our body and muscles by work-out is a physical drawback. Why God couldn’t make in such a way that we grow strength without generating not so much pain in body and muscles. In the same way, if we are to progress spiritually, why can’t we do without suffering like hell? Couldn’t god make us in such a way that we would grow at ease but with pure intention? Why did god start such a game of spiritual growth in the first place or what caused that we are away from the purest form of consciousness? Wasn’t god perfect and satisfied in the beginning that He spread out His own part into unspiritual state?

    If all the souls came into this to have certain experience of his own choice deliberately, then question arises that Do some souls like that of murderer, genocide, Satanist, torturer come to this world to experience that instead of experiencing love, compassion, sacrifice, caring, chastity, confidence, courage, courtesy,…..? Did the soul of Muhammad choose to come to practice such cruelty for his own spiritual growth? What some souls gain spiritually when their bodies die in infancy/in early age? Do some souls come to experience so much pain that they ultimately decide to quit and suicide?
    You wrote this:
    “If your life is difficult, it’s because you knew you could handle it. You must be a valiant soul. Don’t give up now. Take advantage of the hardships and evolve your spiritual muscles.”

    You wrote that:
    “Let us say you want to learn how to jump. You practice jumping over bars. You keep raising the bar, every time a notch higher. You choose the level of difficulty.”
    The god has gifted you with gift of the analogy, along with the gift of the gab. Learning jumping by raising bars is incomparable with making progress spiritually from suffering. Jumping is a talent which is not inherent in man but when we are the part of divine, we must not suffer so much for such growth. Leaves of trees naturally move towards it life source, without any pain and suffering; then why do we need to suffer so much to return towards our source of life, our own reservoir of consciousness. We need to practice a great deal is not a good sign but it the mark of our physical disability. Many other animals can jump higher than us.

    You wrote this:
    “This world is only a game. Its irony is that those who seem to be the winners may actually be the losers while those who appear to be the losers may be the real winners.”
    Don’t some souls know this while being in the spiritual realm that they choose to be rich, hedonist, extravagant and debauchee? Why do they choose to be wrong things which can’t help to progress but to regress spiritually?

    “What happens to children that die while still innocent? Where would their souls go? If to heaven then isn’t it better that someone kills all the children and save them from committing sin and hellfire? Even if this means that person will go to hell, he can be content that he has helped all those who he killed from entering that dreadful place. Such a person would be a real hero, the savior of countless souls. He sacrifices his own soul to save that of others. Should such a person be punished? Doesn’t he deserve the greatest reward?”
    Looking forward to hear from you soon.

    (NB: I have sent you this mail in your mail faithfreedomf2@gamil.com too.)

    Thanks and warm regards,
    Abid Ali

  47. Kavya says:

    Mr. Sina, why would a loving God place us in a such a harmful environment in the first place?

    If I am the creator of the Universe and I am All-Loving, why would I create a world where my children will suffer?

  48. Anand Sagar says:

    //You are not God. You are just a human being.//

    There is one Great Truth, One Final Reality. It is All That Is. It is God. Nothing exists outside of it. All that exists is God. We are God. God and us are same. What we desire God is desiring. What we do God is doing. What we experience God is experiencing.

  49. Ali Sina says:

    Maybe because you have a different and perhaps erroneous understanding of the word authoritative. If you have a small child, you know you can be both. if you love your child you will not allow him to do things that may hurt him. Will you let your child to play with rat poison or a knife? If you are a loving dad, you will certainly be very authoritative. If you are not authoritative then you can’t be a loving parent.

    Now the difference is that God, despite being authoritative, has given us the freedom to act. We are totally free to do what we please. God will never stop you even if you decide to kill someone or kill millions.

    God does not intervene in anything, unless you ask. This is somewhat a difficult concept to grasp and I am trying to make sense of it. It seems that the mechanism that put in motion God’s blessings, has to be triggered by a conscious mind. There must be a conscious mind acting as a receiver and tuning to the vibes that God sends in order to receive them. As far as I understand, it seems that giving and receiving is a two way transaction. Two conscious minds must connect for the transaction to take place. One is God’s and the other is you. That is why we have to ask if we want to receive. I am still studying this subject and try to make sense of it. Once I have a better understanding, I will write an article concerning prayer.

  50. Ali Sina says:

    Hi,

    Have you a backup of the latest articles. I debated with a person from Indonesia. He saw the article is down and wrote to see whether i have become a Muslim. I told him no and the reason his article is lost. He said he has saved it. I told him to please send it to me. He said he will do it when he has time. I don’t know why sending a file should require time. He can do it in less than one minute. Obviously he does not the debate to be posted again. So if you have that debate, please send it, alone with whatever you have that you see is missing.

    Thanks

  51. Phoenix says:

    //I do not think I can love a God that is authorative and demanding.//

    An authority is not neccessarily a demanding figure but instead could be an expert in a particular field.Atheists generally associate an authority with being demanding.It’s a typical view of a rebellious teen and not one from a rational adult.And since Atheism is the rejection of all absolutes where the individual is free to conjure up his own rules to suit his subjective proclivities – the Atheist is therefore in a continual power struggle because he has placed himself as the ultimate moral authority.What applies to anyone else does not apply to the Atheist and vice versa.Such loosey-goosey principles is what eventually leads to moral degredation.

  52. Anonymous says:

    Hi mr. Alisina i know your busy but somebody want to debate you my friend thanks

  53. Kavya says:

    Hello Mr.Sina,

    I was wondering why Jesus would be authoritative if we are a piece of God?
    Why would God be an authorative figure and still be loving? These two aspects are mutually exclusive.
    I do not think I can love a God that is authorative and demanding.

  54. Robin says:

    You are not God. You are just a human being.

  55. Christian x says:

    Jil
    Dear Aili
    I would like to share my experience with getting involved with a muslim woman and turning to Jesus to save me from this relationship.
    I would like to submit and article that I feel has a link to your post please. How do do this?
    Can I write you a short preface to see if you want to hear it before expend the time to complete it ?

    Now one off my first experiences with islam was when I worked with a muslim.

  56. Ally Naik says:

    Dear Dr Ali Sina who hacked our beloved site? Thank God for me coz I have all the articles since I used to copy them in my computer and external drive as well.. My friend Sina you need to use very powerful proxy server to prevent hackers.. I can see here they are trying to hack again in your all sites using SQL Injection and DDoS.. God bless you my friend Dr Ali Sina for good work your doing for humanity.

  57. Anand Sagar says:

    //If it were not for the Bible I would have accepted Jesus much sooner. I don’t owe anything to this book of fables, absurdity and even obscenity. I owe my salvation to the people who died and were lucky enough to actually meet Jesus in person, and to the Holy Spirit that came to me, confirmed me in my faith and solaced my heart. Yes Jesus is alive and he runs a kingdom.//

    It is not that Jesus is god and we are not. Jesus is god just as everything that exists is God. We all are God. We are body of God. That some NDErs see Jesus on the other side is because God appears as any religious figure as one believes like Krishna, Buddha, Jesus. I have quoted the words of one of the famous NDEr Mellen Thomas Benedict below that support my above view :

    ////As I began to move toward the light, I knew intuitively that if I went to the light, I would be dead.

    So as I was moving toward the light I said, “Please wait a minute, just hold on a second here. I want to think about this; I would like to talk to you before I go.”

    To my surprise, the entire experience halted at that point. You are indeed in control of your near-death experience. You are not on a roller coaster ride. So my request was honored and I had some conversations with the light. The light kept changing into different figures, like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, mandalas, archetypal images and signs.

    I asked the light, “What is going on here? Please, light, clarify yourself for me. I really want to know the reality of the situation.”

    I cannot really say the exact words, because it was sort of telepathy. The light responded. The information transferred to me was that your beliefs shape the kind of feedback you are getting before the light. If you were a Buddhist or Catholic or Fundamentalist, you get a feedback loop of your own stuff. You have a chance to look at it and examine it, but most people do not.////

  58. Ali Sina says:

    I did not say it is exclusive to Christianity. In fact is is news to most Christians. Truth is never exclusive.

  59. Ali Sina says:

    Dear Abid Ali,

    I answered the question why there is suffering. Unfortunately this site was hacked and all the data was lost. I uploaded it again from a backup that I had, but all the articles posted in October and November were lost. Fortunately I had posted some of them on faithfreedom.org site so I can copy them from there. I think these two articles can provide and answer to your question regarding suffering.
    What is the purpose of life http://www.faithfreedom.org/?p=10386
    Why is there suffering? http://www.faithfreedom.org/?p=10425

    As for exorcism, I may write an article in future. But not so early as I am working on my book and have little time. I don’t see the question of exorcism terribly important. So it can wait for now.

  60. WV says:

    your cause for believing in Jesus is the main reason that i got bitter with Christianity. floating soul after death and return again is not exclusive for Christian people only. Dig deeper Mr. Sina , weather u become atheist or not dont lose your logic thinking.

  61. Abid Ali says:

    Dear Ali Sina,

    Will you not answer me? Please, I request you to reply.

    Regards,
    Abid Ali

  62. vin says:

    That was a very interesting. I can’t claim I understand Jesus, but of all divine figures, i admire the Buddha and Jesus the most. With Jesus, I skip the birth story and the crucifixion. Its the middle bit i am interested in. The sayings which paved the way for modern human rights.

  63. gblade says:

    oops!

    i meant to say, “i do believe in the bible.”

  64. gblade says:

    Wow ali sina! i do believe that you have had a mind shift regarding jesus and god. i come frm a christian family. i believe in jesus, but i let go of christianity many years ago. i do however believe the, all of it mind you.

    if you have time, please visit this website:
    http://www.bibletruths.com. it might stir some more thaughts.

  65. Abid Ali says:

    Dear respected Ali,
    First, I would like to congratulate you for the new path you stepped on. Whatever you have embraced must have done after a profound contemplation and analysis. You are a truthful person, but I am afraid that converting to a truth may fetch you a few loses. First you accepted that God exists, might convert enemies into friends and friends into enemies. But that is not to be worried for when you a true seeker of truth. Muslims may come up with comments like, “Just like you accepted that there is a God, similarly after some more enlightenment, you will believe that Muhammad was a true prophet of God.” Even I know that your current definition of god must be different from that of most of the religions of the world (considerably, if not completely). A couple of years back, I asked few question about the exorcism and ghost possession which you denied to believe(published in & as Miscellaneous Questions), while I had seen that evidence of those and believed in them (I still believe), but I trust and respect you too. If you now believe in Exorcism, then how would you explain when Muslim exorcists exorcise the possessed with Quranic ayahs. I have seen them doing, you can’t deny; and I am not at ALL gullible. I wish to remain an agnostic. I don’t like religion, I know religions have killed and destroyed very large number of people, wealth and resource throughout history. And last but not the least, how would you explain now the suffering, sorrow, pain and evil in the world if there is a God? This is the reason I hate god and I am desperate to know from someone representative of God/enlightened one/ to God Himself.

    Thanks & best regards,

    Abid Ali

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