I left Islam. How can I Tell my Husband
Hi guys,
I am a former Muslim convert married to a Muslim man. He has no idea I do not believe in Islam any more. And I have no idea how to tell him… He is so happy and excited about his religion… Every little staff proved by modern science that had been mentioned in Islam, is a miracle for him. Do you imagine?
Yesterday he read an article that some parasites of pubic hairs are nearly extinct thanks to depilation. Then he made me a lecture, that in Islam it is obligatory to get rid off female pubic hairs bcs they have their periods and it is dirty and very dangerous for health, and favours the parasites and now the science proved it… Then he kept on saying “la illaha il la laa” and “allahu akbar” I am really sick of it, it is so stupid. Allahu akbar for depilation of pubic hairs.
I am sure he is a good guy deep-down, but he has few really disgusting habits. As I started to read the Quran really carefully and critically, I see where they come from. If I do not agree with him, he accuses me that I am stupid, or unbeliever, or that it is impossible to explain me anything bcs I will not understand… I hate it. What is more, in 3/4 of cases it showed out that I was right and he never apologized.
I left Islam, after I decided to break my husband’s conviction and I read criticism of Islam in secret. I found Sina’s site and I was shocked. Every unanswered question I had about Islam was answered on this site. I verified ahadith and quranic verses published, they were real. I could not believe how I let fool myself.
But I really do not know what to do about my husband. I love him; I would like him to wake up. If I question anything about Islam, he gets furious and tells me: you do not believe in god? You do not believe in his prophet? Why that stupid question? Also, he will never read your site, I am sure. If I point out some issue (cutting off right hand and left foot by terrorists in Mali is according to Islam), he tells they are Khawarij and stops the discussion. He does not read the Quran as I do (from the start to the beginning), in fact most of verses he has never read. I read it often in front of him so that he should join me and see it’s stupid. Sometimes he read one verse, then he is blubbering “la illaha illa laa”. He stokes me (?) because he likes me reading Quran and turns on his TV.
Please help me. I am scared to tell him directly, because the day I converted, he told me that there is no way back. That it is forever and I can never change my mind ever. I feel I have to make him believe it is his idea.. his doubts… his questions… What should I do?
PS: Please do not use my name from my email address. It is a nickname, but I am writing articles against islam on one blog in that name. I do not want them to be connected. Sign it “Lucy”.
Dear Lucy,
You did not say whether you have children with this man or not. That changes everything. Also you did not say whether you live in his Islamic country or in your country. That too affects your options.
If you live in a non-Muslim country and have no children, you are in the position of power. You can tell him you have a serious matter to discuss with him and set a time when both of you are free and the TV is not on. Then tell him the truth. Tell him you have read the Quran and the articles on alisina.org and have come to the conclusion that Islam is a lie. You don’t have to tell him that you don’t believe in God because the belief in God has nothing to do with Islam. In fact one cannot believe in God and be a Muslim at the same time. The god Muslims worship is the incarnation of everything is said about Devil. He is not the God worshipped by other religions – the God of love, the God of mercy, the God of reason, the of forgiveness and of compassion. The Quran claims its god is merciful and compassionate. But when we read that book and examine the actions of Muhammad, we can see that claim is false.
Every criminal has a high opinion of himself. Most criminals, if not all of them, are narcissist. A narcissist truly believes he is the best of humanity even if his actions are despicable. He projects his own vices on others while idealizes his own attributes. Muhammad was a narcissist and by extension all his followers are also narcissist. They hold the same narcissistic view of their prophet that he held of himself, and incidentally, they hold the same narcissistic views about themselves too. They believe that Muhammad was the best of creation and that they are the best of people. Nothing can be farther from the truth. Muhammad was the worst man ever walked on Earth and Muslims (the true ones – the ones who follow Muhammad to the letter) are the vilest and the most despicable people. No they are not Khawariji (Gone out of the faith). They are the true Muslims who put into practice the Quran to the letter. Even the original Khawarijs had not gone out of the faith. They wanted to practice the real Islam.
According to Quran 3:110, Muslims are the best of people.
Al Capone, the legendary Chicago mobster and ruthless murderer, in his trial said, beneath this coat beats a heart full of compassion and love. While serving his jail sentence in Alcatraz, he composed a love song, which according to Rich Larson, one of his present day fans, who helped line up musicians and singers to record it, “is a beautiful song, a tearjerker.” The gangster who orchestrated the 1929 St. Valentine’s Day Massacre, in which his henchmen pulled machine guns from violin cases and butchered seven people, incidentally, was also a religious man. The song might be about the Virgin Mary, or perhaps his wife whom he remained loyal to until his death.
There is a saying in English: “Actions speak louder than words.” Muhammad was a mass murderer, a rapist, a pedophile, an assassin, a slave maker and trader, a ruthless thug. If Al Capone massacred seven mobsters in one day, Muhammad massacred 700 to 900 innocent Jews in one day and he sold their wives and children as slaves. But he claimed to be the mercy of God to mankind, the best of the creation and the perfect example to follow. Muslims must be ashamed for following such an evil monster. But they are not. They don’t want to think or hear any bad thing about their prophet. They prefer to hide their heads in the sand (or maybe somewhere more handy) than listen to what could awaken them. To say Muslims are stupid is a compliment to them. Islam is beyond stupidity. It is beyond inanity. This cult is Devil worship. Only by understanding this inconvenient truth can we understand the evil that is in the heart of Muslims and why they behave in such a despicable way.
Now, let me answer your question.You say you are afraid of your husband and also say you love him. I don’t understand this. Love and fear are two different things. You can’t love a person whom you fear and vice-verso. If you fear this man, you don’t love him. You fear that he may leave you and you don’t know what to do. Your relationship with him is co-dependency, not love. There is no fear in love.
If you live in a non-Muslim country and you have no children with this man, arrange a meeting with him and set a time when both of you are free. Unhook the phone and the TV. Then tell him you love him as a man, but there is a problem that is important to you and you can’t ignore it. Tell him you have no problem believing in God. However, you have a problem with Allah and Muhammad. Now, he has two options. He can study Islam with you, answer your questions and convince you that it is a true religion, or you want out of the marriage. Tell him shouting, threatening, intimidating, shaming, insulting, bullying and other uncivilized inane behaviors that is the hallmark of Muslims will not work with you. If Islam cannot be proven logically it is not a religion of God and you don’t want to waste your time following a lie and raise your children in a lie. But if it is a logical religion then he should have no problem discussing it with you and showing its truth.
The numerous claims that Islam is scientific are all bogus claims and self-deceptions. Not a single one of those claims are true. We have debunked every one of them, or at least most of them, because there is not a day that some Muslim somewhere does not claim he has found something in the Quran that science discovered later. Muslims are desperate to fool themselves. None of them asks why despite all the sciences in the Quran only the kafirs who don’t give a damn about that book and don’t read it make all the discoveries and win all the Nobel prizes and Muslims don’t.
This sounds logical but be prepared for his tantrum. Muslims are not used to logical arguments. Islam has advanced through threats, intimidation and bullying. So he may naturally resort to the good old Islamic tactics. For that you have to be prepared. It means you have to be ready to walk out of the house and have a place to go. Your luggage should be ready and a car should be standing by.
I understand that you love this man and he might be a wonderful person. If he loves you the same way that you love him he will come after you and will agree to follow your suggestion. After all it is his duty to show you the truth of Islam and remove your doubts. He just does not know how. He knows how to trick you and how to lie about his religion. He has used that tactic already on you when he convinced you that Islam is a true religion. But now you are wiser and he can’t play that game again. The only other option left for him is to bully you. But if you show him that you are ready to move out of his life, he will have no other choice but to agree to study Islam with you.
If he agrees to that, you have won half of the battle or even more. Then I suggest you get hold of a copy of my book and study it with him and ask him to prove I am wrong. He can get help from any imam and I would be happy to debate with any scholar he convinces to debate with me and both of you just read the debate. I want to make it easy for him so he does not need to even read my book.
Now, what if he does not agree to study Islam with you or refuses to find an imam to debate with me and remains adamant that you either submit to him or go your way. Well, why would you need such a man as your husband and father of your children? A man who is so dumb does not deserve to be either. Walk out of that marriage and start again. If he is a true Muslim he will do what true Muslims do and that includes being abusive to his wife and children and to cheat on you. A Muslim man does not have the same sense of undivided loyalty to his wife that non-Muslims are required to have. Islam allows and even encourages polygamy. He does not feel any remorse or pang of conscience for cheating on you. He considers it to be his right.
I was in UK last week and my brother in law who is a psychiatrist was telling me that one of his patients is a very high class, educated and wealthy Arab lady. She complained to him that although she loves her husband and he is a great man, he cheats on her and this is something that disturbs her. But when my brother in law asked the man about it, he said, but Doctor, this is normal for us Arabs. I am an Arab and she is an Arab. She knows this is our culture. If she wanted a husband completely devout to her she should not have married an Arab.
Of course by Arab he meant Muslim. There are other Arabs who are not Muslim and they are not notorious for being disloyal. A Muslim man does not even think he is cheating. He is following the footsteps of his prophet and it’s all good and dandy.
My advice to all women is to stay away from Muslim men, unless you are a masochist and enjoy being abused and mistreated. Also non-Muslim men should stay away from Muslim women. Just leave Muslims to themselves. There is something in their thinking and upbringing that will cause you unnecessary hardship. Unless they leave Islam, sincerely, keep your distance from them. Don’t befriend them, don’t date them and don’t fall in love with them. Muslims are damaged goods.
They can lie to you and say they are not practicing Muslims and that they are not religious people. Don’t fall into that trap. They all say that at the beginning. This is part of their taqiyyah game. Don’t believe in them unless they say they spit at Muhammad and call him a pig. I am sorry to say this but Muslims lie very convincingly and you have to go the extra mile to find out whether they have really left Islam or just are doing their taqiyyah.
I am not saying you should shun Muslims. One of the biggest influences in my awakening was a couple of elderly Italians who adopted me like their son and showed me kindness and love when I was a young man in Italy. They shattered my prejudices against the westerners. A lot of Muslims can see your kindness and can be affected by it, but a lot of them are so damaged that they take everything from you and then stab you in the back – literally. There is an account of one such case in my book Understanding Muhammad and Muslims. My point is that you should not be too close to them. Be kind to them, but always keep your distance. Don’t put yourself in a situation that you could be dependent on them. If they are good Muslims they may take advantage of your vulnerability and hurt you when you least expect. Many years ago, before the 9/11, a pregnant Jewish woman was stopped at the airport in Israel> Explosives were found in her suitcase. They were was set to go off in midair. The explosives were placed in her luggage by her Palestinian boyfriend, the father of her unborn child. You can never know to what debt of depravity Muslims are capable of descending. When a person gives up his rational mind to a psychopath and takes a criminal as his prophet, there is no end to his wickedness. No human can descend as low as a cultist. No cult is more evil than Islam. No human can be more wicked as a true Muslim. The more they follow their pedophile prophet, the more evil they become.
Now, what if you don’t have children, but live in an Islamic country? In that case I suggest you get out of that country ASAP and then write to him what I told you. You can study Islam together through email. That is even better, because he won’t be able to bully you.
If you have children with him, things are different. Then you are responsible for the wellbeing of your children. In that case I suggest you keep your secret to yourself and just bear with him. Make sure he does not contaminate the minds of your children. Expose them to the truth and when they are mature enough ask them to read my articles or even better, my book. Time plays wonders. Did you know that as we age, women start producing more testosterone while men stop producing it? What this means is that women become more assertive and domineering and yes some actually grow beard (some facial hair). On the other hand men become more docile. This happens after the age of fifty to both genders. So be patient. Gradually you will become the boss in your household and that would be the payback time. Nature has its own funny ways. My advice to all men is, be kind to your wife while you are still the macho. Time turns the table and when you become the underdog you will be at her mercy. Ouch!
Hey! I
read your articles and I would like to share my story with you. Since I know
you are busy but still I would like your response (if at all possible).
I would
be brief. I dated a Muslim guy for 4 months i guess and i was highly attached
to him. he decided to visit my hometown for his internship, of which I felt
very special. But within a month of that, His behavior changed. I asked him
reason many a times and he acted as if i cheated on him. but he gave me no
reason for his behavior and i finally decided to call it off. it hurt me to
this much extent that I am living on anti depressants and other medications. I
am trying to forget and hate me for my better future.
I once
read your post related to Israel Gaza issue and then made a status update on Face
book that why everyone is showing their support only to Gaza people. No one is
bothered to what happened with Malaysian airlines and as acclaimed that
supporting Gaza is not about religion, and then why anyone doesn’t support
Malaysian airlines issue on the ground of humanity. It is not about region abut
about religion now. After this, I faced my bf’s wrath over this. I tried to
make him understand my point but he said for me, every Muslim is my brother.
There is massive killing going on. Malaysian airlines killed only 100s , not a
big deal (I lost my close one as well, to which he was oblivious).
He even
asked me to convert to Islam because he wanted me to attain good after life. I
told him, first marry me and then I will. I was ready to adapt myself to his
culture. But I still don’t understand why he left me without stating any valid
reason.
I have so
many speculations but nothing is working out that can appease me. I can vouch for
his love and loyalty towards me and still can’t believe that he has gone.
If you can give me the answer, then surely do.
This situation has brought me on the verge of
death.
That is completely ridiculous and false. Hair does not grow to let out dirt and poisons. Where did you learn that old wive's tale.
Actually, it is NOT good to remove pubic hair, shaving the pubic area is dangerous, can cause rashes and ingrown hairs and pimples. God gave us hair for a reason, if he wanted us to cut it off he would have made it easy and simple to do, whereas it is hard to do and requires tools like razors which many people don't have.
Both men and women have to remove it. I just want to say, if you really want to know about the REAL islam you should search up real Islamic knowledgeable speakers on YouTube, such as Nouman Ali Khan, Zakir Naik, Yusuf Estes, Omar Suleiman & Mufti Menk. I'm just saying this because there's no point in asking questions on a anti-Islam page. That's likely asking a Hindu about Christianity (& since this page is so adamant on 'logic' it's only logic to learn about Islam from scholars & the knowledgeable) 🙂
This site and its followers are pathetic
Dear Ali Sina you are a great thinker. I like you articles
haha chutiye slave of prophet, tera paksitan to khud alag ho ra hai jaldi hi 5 tukdo main batne waley hai. wahan ke ahmadia muslim or shia muslim tumjaise chutiya sunni mislimo se nafrat kartey hai & bengalis toh waise bhi dont like u. zakir naik ka ghatiya sapna reality se hazaro km door hai
Dear Brother,
My dear Sister Narcole understand the Cult of Islam but I think Islamist pay her a big amount for that so she write like. And I was not celebrating Eid that support animal killings, this is really Satan work. All Muslims says Satan chained for a month (in Ramdaan) and in this month you will not found any misshapen this is true because actual Satan on the Earth is Muhammad's true followers and they wait like Satan when this month complete and we start killing of innocent, specially young men and looted theirs wealth that spent in Ramdaan in Iftaar party.
Yes I was Busy but not celebrating Eid but I was in Afghanistan to see the the status of women.
Having not been exposed to the truth, anytime you are confronted with one, it sounds totally strange to you; poor ignorant toy.
Zimmerman,
"I DON'T THINK THAT ISLAM TAUGHT MUSLIMS TO DO BAD ACTIONS EITHER;)"
Doesn't it? Can you say why other faiths are not allowed to exist in Saudi Arabia? Apart from muhammadan countries, where else is it an offense for other faiths to exist? Where did the Saudis get their policy from if not the muhammadan creed? Muhammadanism glorifies and rewards evil deeds. Where else would a human being be butchered and some god praised by the killers who are openly supported by the leadership? Within the past one year, can you compare the number of people killed in the name of all the other faiths combined with the number killed in the name of muhammadanism alone? There is no basis for such comparison.If a behavioral pattern is observed among a particular group, though the members of that group live on different locations, it is safe to generalize. Muhammadans behave in much the same way no matter where they live. That comes from whatever teaching they receive.
OK, I admit that you bring a very good and valid point here. I suppose we have to draw the line at harassing people in cyberspace and so, yes, there are borders to freedom of speech.
But as they say, do not "throw away the baby with the bathwater".
And on the net I suppose 100's of persons indeed ARE insulted every day. This is long since tested. In real life I am against insulting as I said.
Many say that Hitler was no longer Christian when he was Nazi. Be that as it may; my biggest criterium is whether or not he practiced full democracy and human rights and freedom of speech. And he was the archetypical totalitarian tyrant, heavily suppressing and violating all that.
Darwin was a genius and contributing to human progress, but he was no prophet. He can be and has been contradicted, improved upon many times (in about 150 years). But you cannot contradict or improve upon what your prophet bequeathed you, no matter how much time elapses (1400 years), and how much change and progress occurs. Muslims may only vary in the INTERPRETATION of their IMMUTABLE Holy texts.
Demsci'
It will be total misconception on her part if she thinks that I need a bridge to her. Not for as long as she remains a muhammadan.
I know you mean this symbolic, and perhaps you see me as being some kind of bridge between you and I-hate-Islam. But we only know each other through our posts! We don't know each other very well. So how can we love each other?
And I am not impartial, but on his side and against yours. Unless you clearly choose for democracy (If democracy is ensured in enough countries in the world, and thus also in most current Islamic countries, that's enough). If it is possible then under Democracy you can have "democratic" Islam.
But you distrust and denigrate my beloved America, the West, let alone democratic Israel, and are opposed to them, preferring their enemies over them. And these totalitarian enemies, often Islamic, they are the alligators, in my view.
But you as a person, or your post-behavior here, THAT I like.
Hi, Narcole,good post, yes, you are right that animals are of my kind, AND OF YOURS of course, but I recognize that and you don't.
Well, I do judge them, as very cruel, ever since the Cambrian period, starting approx. 600 million years ago. This is when first complex animals existed and divided in predators and prey animals. But they killed unconsciously, so were innocent.
But yes, for hundreds of millions of years animals killed animals, then they also killed humans, very cruel and painful. Then humans become so powerful that animals no longer could kill them (or not much), although of course they kept killing animals. And also often other humans. This means that violent killing of animals by animals, then of animals and humans by animals and humans has a very long history.
But according to Stephen Pinker's book: "The better angels of our nature (2012)" violence among humans at least is decreasing on a per capita basis, due to higher human civilization and education and conscience and also to democratic system, human rights, freedom of speech. And by the way, he and Sam Harris acknowledge that religions have many beneficial moral tenets, but Atheists can and often do have as good moral tenets as religions, though many atheists may not follow them.
Animals kill. Muhammad killed and his followers do nothing but kill. It is good to see you equating Muhammad and muhammadans with animals. Coming from you, there is nothing to be refuted. It confirms the view very widely held about him and you, his followers.
@narcole1919721
//You mean your atheists friends will be in heaven with you and jesus, and jesus will tell them, hi, thanks for saying god and heaven dont exist?//
Knowing what Jesus preached, I won't be surprised if such a case happens.
OK, Narcole, I respect that. Something similar was explained to me by my Christian relatives, tutors, reverends. I believe they would call me a doubting Thomas. Indeed they told me it was imperative for me to take a "leap of faith" and then I would know God existed and had a plan for me too. Perhaps that is the test of ghaib (extra sensory perception?) you mention.
And as you say, my Christian relatives told me too that God wanted me to choose him and believe in him and not make his existence totally plain and irrefutable.
But as you know I preferred to choose to try to think as logically as I could for my basic beliefs, based on scientific evidence and much relevant and ongoing information.
//"if i ever met him and u say i find out ur right about his charactaristics then watever thats my choice tht i choose to believe the opposite of tht"//
Even if you found out we were right, you would still believe the opposite?! And you accuse us of being beyond reason, solid in our hate or something like that?!
It seems to me that you don't care about finding the highest truth you can find, you just want your beloved story, in which you have invested so much already, and which connects to your loved ones. Very understandable, but I say that makes you a person who doesn't care about finding the best truth and isn't diligent in finding it.
Imagine if a person said that believing in the wizard Gandalf of "the lord of the rings" gave her a good feeling while she had a nice group of loved ones who supported her because of it and THAT was why she chose to believe in Gandalf, even though of course he was only a fantasy figure, but she didn't care about that.
@ihateislam
//The possibility does not exist that anything ever said against him is or can be wrong.//
Unless it is good 🙂
@narcole1919721
//You didnt answer my question what if you found all accusations toward prophet are wrong//
You asked a question and I answered it. I am quoting the same below:
Narcole: What if you met him and you witnessed yourself that hes very nice and gentle.
Chuck: If I do then I will ask him what torments in Hell made him nice and gentle. I will tell him if he had been such when he was alive the world would have been far better and safer place.
See, I haven't made any allegations. Now lets see what your answer to my question was?
// i did answer. cant you read? //
Well I can, but I didn't find any answer. Please repeat.
Santa distributes toys like you to children in grottoes.
Nizam,
Good to have you back. In addition to the functions you have listed, allah was Muhammad's chief security officer as well. He arranged how Muhammad was to be guarded while praying in the mosque. A VERY SUBSERVIENT AND CHEAP DEITY.
There has been no false accusation against mad Mo. Everything said about him is factual. The possibility does not exist that anything ever said against him is or can be wrong.
It shows how deficient you are in your muhammadanism. The author was not khalil gibran. Go and do some more homework. Being drunk is a muhammadan pass-time. Muhammad drank fermented wine and called it a 'purifier'. He even performed ablution with it. In his paradise, as it has already been pointed out, there will be rivers of wine which will be a delight to drinkers, i.e. drunkards. Hamza, Muhammad's cousin, buddy and bouncer was a notorious drunk and so were many of the caliphs. Muhammadans are big time hypocrites.
Chuck,
"–YOU COME TO A SITE DUMP, YOUR ISLAMIC GARBAGE, AND WHEN REFUTED RUSH OFF SAYING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TIME".
Perfect. It gives the correct picture of the deceptive creature.
You should be concerned about where you will spend eternity. Muhammad confessed that he did not know what was going to happen to him. Allah was so disappointed in mad Mo that he allowed him to be poisoned and die degraded. Then allah promised to send a beast as its next messenger because Mo had gone mad beyond allah's expectations. If he didn't know what would happen to him, why would he care what happens to you?
@Zimmerman
//No i actually hv a life unlike u im not behind the screen 24/7 replying to all comments i hv a home i have a job i have family i have friends tht deserve my time alot more then me being replying to ignorant comments all day long lol//
Oh, how convenient. You come to a site dump, your Islamic garbage, and when refuted rush off saying that you don't have time.
//and its not up to u to decide if islam is wrong or right or any religion u do what u need to do to impress ur god//
Off course if somebody comes to preach Islam it is my duty to myself to decide whether it is right or wrong!! Yes, you have a right to follow Islam and we have the right to let people know what Islam entails.
Any body who follows Muhammad is more than foolish. There may be no proper adjective to qualify such a numbskull.
Well! The Mohammedans cry that it is a sin to drink wine on this earth but in their paradise streams of wine flow?
Those who drink, they are always pure from heart,therefore cunning Mohammed banned drinking alcohol ,because he knew alcoholics are true saints , every one would have become true Prophet then ha ha ha.
Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo la tadkhuloo buyoota alnnabiyyi illa an yu/thana lakum ila taAAamin ghayra nathireena inahu walakin itha duAAeetum faodkhuloo fa-itha taAAimtum faintashiroo wala musta/niseena lihadeethin inna thalikum kana yu/thee alnnabiyya fayastahyee minkum waAllahu la yastahyee mina alhaqqi wa-itha saaltumoohunna mataAAan fais-aloohunna min wara-i hijabin thalikum atharu liquloobikum waquloobihinna wama kana lakum an tu/thoo rasoola Allahi wala an tankihoo azwajahu min baAAdihi abadan inna thalikum kana AAinda Allahi AAatheeman
O ye who believe! Enter not the Prophet's houses,- until leave is given you,- for a meal, (and then) not (so early as) to wait for its preparation: but when ye are invited, enter; and when ye have taken your meal, disperse, without seeking familiar talk. Such (behaviour) annoys the Prophet: he is ashamed to dismiss you, but Allah is not ashamed (to tell you) the truth. And when ye ask (his ladies) for anything ye want, ask them from before a screen: that makes for greater purity for your hearts and for theirs. Nor is it right for you that ye should annoy Allah's Messenger, or that ye should marry his widows after him at any time. Truly such a thing is in Allah's sight an enormity.33:53
This Sura prove that Allah is the servant/ Public Relation Executive of Muhammad because Allah tell to Muslims that Muhammad Ashamed but Allah not ashamed but how many Muslims feeling ashamed to others work but Allah never told a word even if for Abu Bakr & Ms. Abu Bakr that he also does not want to marry his daughter to an old man but Allah not express himself why? Because Allah is servant or Public relation executive of Muhammad so why he denied. If he had denied then his name and power also lost by Muhammad and his gang.
Dear Sister Narcole,
Sometimes you say Jesus, Buddha and many more is in your holy book and the Messenger of Allah and sometimes you use bad words or do show faith this show your mentality
Zimmerman
"U hv made n flooded the site with irrelevant and false information about islam that u made up from ur head and no proof to back any of it up." If Mr. Sina is spreading false information about Islam then you prove that it is wrong with evidence because Mr. sina is saying or providing any message logically so you can also give your proof.
Dear Sister Narcole,
You learn and understand history from real sources because Muslims live his life in only imagined Allah and Imagine world and hear only rumor nothing else what was the history of your own country and what is today how the people of your country live with non-violence but today due to Islam some of them are living in fear and some are spreading terror whole part of the world as well as his own country
Dear Narcole
you also not give answer of those question till now so you can't blame others one
"I was tickled remembering haters posts. I said in heart..god, why you created such fool x'D"
Who Exposing Islam and Muhammad's reality
Demsci, how many animals kill others in forest? Dont you think that your animals are crueler? Aint they your brothers, since ur darwinist? Why dont you judge them and do something about them, as your kind?
Did you learn history from real sources? why asking her to do things you didnt do yet.
Demsci, did you give hater grapes or cookies? I asked you to do that to spread love from us. show me that you dont eat flesh. Give the grapes. you are not doing your good allygator task well. Searching new prey?
Lol khalil gibran was a drunk. He drank alcohol and he wrote that while drunk pfft
How about santa claus and black pete? Fiction?
You mean your atheists friends will be in heaven with you and jesus, and jesus will tell them, hi, thanks for saying god and heaven dont exist?
I was tickled remembering haters posts. I said in heart..god, why you created such fool x'D
*sniffs* something smells fishy here. *looks at you both* oh ._.
Excalibur, do we know you? 😉 do you think by insulting islam could make other beliefs become right?
Insulting could reduce violence? How about we make test. Insult 100 persons about persons they love, both on net and real life. And see their reactions. You see hom many emos did suicide cos of insults from net too. From other site, i witnessed that many times. Its sad.
Aw you are too shy to admit hitler was from your side. Hitler was christian too. Like darwin who was christian. Could you say darwin was atheist? 🙂
Hmph. After he proved that hes right, you would admit hes right and you would change? Im sorry, demsci. That would be too late for you. It would be the same like god came here showing himself concretely, and forced you to obey him like robot, either you like it or not. After all revealed, the door to come back and change is closed. Cos its too concrete, and the test of believing ghaib over.
You didnt answer my question what if you found all accusations toward prophet are wrong, what would you do? i read that you didnt answer but made other accusation.
Hm? i did answer. cant you read?
Are you related to Dr okubo the spell caster?
Demsci,
It was very civil of you to have replied to that trash. When somebody says she has little time to be on this site yet uses multiple aliases to flood the site, it simply shows that she is as deceitful as the cult she is defending.
Well thn sry for trying to give u an answer to somethjng u were asking lol i didnt no in a discussion tht i hd to wait until u ask me…i read some thing i answered it wether it was directly to me
Or someone else…If i am wrong in something and i find out later i hv the courage to apoligize and say tht u were right…but if i strongly believe in something no one can change my mind until thy give me solid proof tht i can see with my eyes not things tht r made up…my point is i believe in something if its wrong at the end ill get wat i deserve weather thrs hell or not…im guessing if thrs no such thing as hell or heaven to some believers thn we as muslims or christains or jews or cathlics or hundu and so on are all wrong if thr is such a thing as heaven or hell thn i guess it sucks for the atheists and watever religion is wrong…and to me muslims and non muslims all believe tht thrs one god…who ever is right is right no one has the right to tell u what to believe in we should all leave each other alone and find out later
Lol ur being a hypocrite right now tho…
"OK, there were bad people among Christians and Darwinists who did the murder and oppression some Muslims also engage in. I don't think Christianity or true Darwinists taught them to do that"
why cant u judge those christians the same way? If thr are bad christans AMONGST CHRISTIANITY does tht make all christains bad? Same goes for islam jus cuz thr r some stupid ppl tht call thm self muslim and do bad actions it doesnt mean islam or all muslims are bad…thts being ignorant judging a whole group based on others bad actions….and then Another group (non muslim) does the same action but u say tht "I don't think Christianity or true Darwinists taught them to do that its jus a few stupid christans but not christianity" loool well if thts the case ur judging in then I DONT THINK THAT ISLAM TAUGHT MUSLIMS TO DO BAD ACTIONS EITHER
I totally agree with u…"Islam has to stand or fall on its own account, making irrelevant comparisons with other religions does not prove the genuineness of Islam. " mr sina mking all these irrelevant points about islam on the website ALSO does not prove that islam is a bad religion i can judge any religion in the world the way mr sina is judging no difference…the only difference is tht i dont care what others believe in and its not in my place to judge and im not ignorant and hateful either…and i no for a fact thrs no religion on earth tht justifies any of the hate mr sina has if he wants to mk uo crap about ppls religion so be it his choice but his points r completely irrelevant…
And Miss Zimmerman, you portray yourself as so wonderfully tolerant, leaving us to make all our choices, about religions/ lifestyles. But you are a self-confessed member of the Ummah. And if you had honesty and diligence in researching this site or JihadWatch, you would have known beyond a shadow of a doubt, that so many of your fellow Muslims are very intolerant to non-Muslims, oppressing them, even killing them.
And in the Muslim-countries other religions have no equal chances with Islam. While you are probably used to equal rights for Islam in the lands of the infidels. That is why you complain about VERBAL criticism, calling it hate, while you are a Musliim and worldwide Muslims do a lot worse than mere verbal criticism to followers of other religions and a lot more violent and coercing and censorship also.
And conveniently you ignore that and don;t protest against that. But you do protest against the reaction of Non-Muslims against that.
//"No i actually hv a life unlike u im not behind the screen 24/7 replying to all comments i hv a home i have a job i have family i have friends tht deserve my time alot more then me being replying to ignorant comments all day long lol..''?//
Look Miss Zimmerman, you can't have it both ways; AND criticizing us here AND then claiming you have little time to study what we have to say.
It is OK if you leave, but telling us how little time you have and thus how little you actually can know about this website and us; that makes you a very arrogant, ignorant lady to judge us as haters and spreaders of hate.
You are so obviously unaware that all of your arguments and judgements about this site and it's counterjihadist writers and posters have been answered and debunked countless times. And then, when we try to tell you, then you come up with excuses that you don't want to spend time studying and thinking and arguing.
You can be sure that most of us did take the time to study, think and argue about Islam and it's consequences for the rest of mankind.
excalibur,
Well said.
Excelsor,
Thank you. We learn from others and with that contribute our quota.
@Zimmerman
1. The question wasn't for you, but for Narcole.
2. //so both ways non of ur buissness//. It immediately became my business as soon as Narcole posed a similar question to us non-muslims which, in fact, Demsci and I answered.
3. Although you set out to answer, nonetheless you didn't actually answer what would you do if you find that we are correct about assessing Muhammad. The question isn't about where you would go. After all not every non-muslim believes in an Eternal Hell.
ihateislam,
Despite English not being your mother-tongue, I must complement you on the excellent English you write!
Keep it up!!
Narcole,
Even accepting Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism and all other non-Islamic religions as being wrong DOES NOT MAKE ISLAM RIGHT!
Islam has to stand or fall on its own account, making irrelevant comparisons with other religions does not prove the genuineness of Islam.
This forum is for discussing Islam …. it is counterproductive to raise irrelevant questions like "So can you prove jesus?" …. there are many other fora where other religions are discussed, without bringing in Islam. …. You'll have to agree to this basic proposal, in order to discuss aspects of Islam sensibly! ….. the need for discussing Islam exclusively arises from the fact that Islam (and Muhammadism) unnecessarily impinges on those of other faiths with disastrous consequences for the non-muslims concerned.
Wat if wat if wat if…its all assumptions and if i ever met him and u say i find out ur right about his charactaristics then watever thats my choice tht i choose to believe the opposite of tht and if i go to hell lol its wat i wrked for so both ways non of ur buissness…u believe he was not a good person i believe he was an amazing role modle with great love and respect thr r billions in the world we dont all need to believe in one thing and it will stay like this so rly ur point aint gona change anything if u like it or not get over it already lol
@ihateislam
//A muhammadan 'scholar' also said…//
Nice oxymoron: A muhammadan 'scholar' 🙂
@narcole1919721
//I did//
You didn't. You just raised another irrelevant question. I will go one step further and say that you are incapable of answering my question whereas I and Demsci are brave enough to answer your question. I state my question again (which is the exact opposite of what you asked): If one day you indeed meet him and you found him to be worse than how we have described him and proven time and again, what would you do?
Well, I CAN imagine that Allah exists, and that Mohammed was a messenger from him and of saintly character.
And that he would give me a very good explanation, revealing all relevant knowledge and using impeccable logic. And that he would explain too, that I could only see the past and present but not the future and not the afterlife, which he then convincingly explained to me. All this in a very patient and clear way, in accordance with all science.
Yes, THEN of course I would admit that he had a superior opinion to mine and I would accept the consequences and change.
But I emphasize that would require a very interested, open, diligent and patient attitude of me, which I think I have. Do you have that also? In the case when we bring our best people to you and explain our systems of thinking and the reasons for them, with sufficient knowledge and logic?
And: Are all humans capable of such an attitude? or of understanding enough? Of course not. But are all humans who are capable enough in this respect also responsible for using this capability or not? Must they be punished or rewarded or not for using it or lack of using it?
@narcole1919721
// Even before i prayed i still held myself not to laugh//
I think all educated muslims do that (hold themselves tight, so that they end up laughing at the absurdities they know they are uttering).
Remember I was talking about the internet and media, not everyday life on the streets, the workplaces, houses.
I think it is forbidding freedom of speech, even on the internet, media, that is cause for more hatred, more conflicts.
When insults are made just for insulting, then the insulted side can respond insulting back and that also will not be censored. Both sides can stop and ignore. No violence need be involved. But insults are often in reaction to bad deeds and support of them. Here also the insulting is not just for the insulting but in reaction to what Muslims do and support.
Often people are provoked by violent, cruel deeds of oppression and terror, murder, theft, corruption and also stupidity or obsolete conservatism perhaps. Done to them or to loved ones or innocent persons, which infuriates them. They then can respond in a way that is insulting, but also justified and instrumental for future better behavior of humans.
It is when people are provoked by unjust deeds and support of these deeds, and when they then are not allowed to respond in a justified, although insulting way,
that those people are forced in the end to react violently to end the unjust situation they hate, because they are blocked in solving the situation with free speech.
So I firmly believe that free speech, including insulting speech, replaces and reduces much violence.
Example; in the past there were many absolute rulers and elites Many of them were excessively cruel, others stupid or crazy or plain conservative. But in a dictatorial system people could not protest while being insulting, and even the slightest protest often was seen as insulting to the criticized. So very often oppressed people had to resort to violence and kill unjust bad rulers with violence.
But under democracy and freedom of speech, the transfer of power of bad, unpopular rulers always goes smooth without violence.
Sakat,
A muhammadan 'scholar' also said that if one declares to be a prophet, he should be judged beyond his utterances. His actions and biography should be looked at too to determine whether he lives up to the expectations of somebody claiming such a high office. Judging Muhammad on these three criteria, only a dead brain will even remotely think that he was a true prophet. He was only the devil's prophet.
OK, there were bad people among Christians and Darwinists who did the murder and oppression some Muslims also engage in.
I don't think Christianity or true Darwinists taught them to do that or that they themselves really were motivated and excused by Christianity or true Darwinism.
Their ideologies tended to be Fascist (Nazi) or Communist. But these are totalitarian ideologies. And it seems Islam is also a totalitarian ideology.
But especially since WWII true Democratic Christians and Darwinists do NOT do what oppressive or terrorist Muslims do regarding murder and oppression, while being motivated and excused by their religion, according to themselves.
And America and Israel are both democracies who do fight but who also recognize human rights to a high degree and who also do allow full criticism. All of their fighting opponents are totalitarian countries or organisations who violate human rights far worse than they, while violently suppressing free speech.
No i actually hv a life unlike u im not behind the screen 24/7 replying to all comments i hv a home i have a job i have family i have friends tht deserve my time alot more then me being replying to ignorant comments all day long lol…and clearly ur ignorance has made ur brain and heart solid which lead u to all this hate and ur not going to change the way u think and im not expecting u to…everyone has the freedom to express thr belifs and religion and its not up to u to decide if islam is wrong or right or any religion u do what u need to do to impress ur god and leave others alone to believe in what thy want to believe i might not agree with what u say but i can careless what u believe in weather ur an athiest christian catholic jewish wat ever…i might study the diff religions to educate myself but im not going to judge and hate on what other believe in….ur just a hateful person and thats why u r behind the screen the whole day trying to spread hate i feel bad for u if thats how ur life is… like really….lol if i think islam ja the most beautiful religion that up to me chz i no it is and believe it is! U dont want to actually pick up the real teachings of islam and learn about them and just learn from hateful website thr its only goal is to spread hate and mk islam look bad woth false info that also ur choice!
As i said believe in what u want and leave other to believe in what they want at the end if i go to hell then that was my choice in what i believed in if u go to heaven hey by all means maybe u wrked for it good for u i guess…and vice versa i might go to heaven u nvr no☺…but dont act like ur god and tell ppl whos going to hell and whos not
You want to know about characteristics of a real Prophet please read ,'The Prophet" ,the book written by Khalil Zebran, and then asses your mad Mohammed and his Quran passes that criteria .He was persecuted throughout his life by Muslim clergies and ruler for mocking your false prophet.While on death bed he uttered this,'What i intend to tell (about this false cult Islam and the thug Prophet) now;will be told by thousand tongues tomorrow'. His statement is cumming true it seems ,through this wonderful site.Some time i feel Ali Sina is the reincarnation of Khalil Zebran.
My friends will not be in hell. But muhammadans will because it is their choice. Anybody found in hell will be there out of his/her volition.
You are no longer sure who wrote sura 1 which is the 'mother' of all the suras in the quran? Show that I added allah's name randomly.
So you admit that you dont care that humans include your friends in hell?
Muhammad had jins he constantly communicated with. He bequeathed those jins to you. You whisper to and understand them
Author who, where did you read pftt
You wrote sura 1, and then two english translations, the last you added Allahs name randomly x'D
Christians are not doing what boko haram is doing because it is not in the Christian tenets to do so. I cannot speak for darwinists and Hitlerites since I am not one of them.
Nope, it could trigger more hatred from both sides, and more conflicts. why are you hiding and whispering provocation here like jins?
The quran as "revealed" by Muhammad aka allah.
Any christian or any darwinist could do what boko haram did then say its christianity or darwinism which taught that. remember hitler, massacre he did cos he believed natural selection theory from darwinism, that we all are animals and only the strongest who will survive.
I have no business in or with hell. Muhammad said he saw that the vast majority of the inmates of hell were women. He could not help them since he is an inmate too.
What is fiction
You must be hallucinating. I never wrote anything in Arabic. Seeing what does not exist places you in the category of false prophets like Muhammad.
You dont love humans. You lie. if you see them in hell for being atheists, you still dont care.
If I did, it would have come out a sensible product. The author has no clue what he wanted to write on.
Everybody has the option to choose what he/she wants. I am not in muhammadanism where force is the only method known. Each person has to work out his/her salvation. Muhammadans forcing people to accept evil is no sign of love but extreme hate.
Hm? i did tell, you just didnt read x'D go check my pro again x'D
Its all about the money eh? cos he thinks this can sell. 🙂
The person hiding like jins is the asme one who has refused to disclose which 1 out of 73 is his/hers. Nor would he/she tell his/her nationality.
Your arabic sucks too much and makes me really tickled. Even before i prayed i still held myself not to laugh x'
You wrote it. x'D
If the business here is just 'insulting' muhammadanism, then it is better than the business of muhammadanism which is killing human beings.
If you think bible is true and you want all humans to go to heaven, then why dont at least save atheists here to meet your god in heaven? You lie again. You dont care about them.
Whoever wrote the quran must have had spiders crawling up and down his entire body. That is why he could not have thought right.
Lie. hater doesnt love me. He hates me. He didnt accept my cookies nor grapes. do you love me? Would you convince hater to take cookies or grapes from me. Are you good ally? *testing*
Yeah…but there someones who still hide like jins here. Not sure whether atheist or not. maybe afraid. maybe confused.
Not in the business eh? 😉 i see, he sees this islam insulting site as business. Thanks for explaining. *caching* $_$
Huh? You we what? Hmph? *tries not to get tickled* im sorry, please dont say this infront of arabs. Even arab infidels, they would get tickled. It feels like, theres spider walking from tummy to chest when reading this post. *tries not to show tickled face* }: l
Hm? You never heard that hes very clean nice beautiful zhahir and bathin? WOW.So if you found out this perfection include explanations of all shariah he brought and understood the hikmah behind these all, that hadnt been revealed to you before, and then after all revealed, all ur questions answered, and you got satisfied with all perfect reasons, then what would you do?
Nope
Of course not 🙂
I did 🙂
Professional who? hm? father of qasim again? the years you mentioned, didnt you already ask before and you couldnt answer correctly the age of earth from ur 'professional' guys?
//"This becomes clear to an individual when the researcher reads the Prophet’s biography and understands his state of affairs,"//
You know, Zimmerman, that all that you have learned about Mohammad, originates in their oldest written and still existing forms from MUCH LATER than AD 610-632, the time of Mohammad's prophethood? The Propet's biography (Sira), the Quran, Hadiths and the origine of Islam indeed has been examined by some professional researchers.
In # 691 Khalief Abd Al Malik seems to have compiled the Quran, the Sira by Ibn Ishaq originates from 760 AD And the Hadiths were selected and compiled at least 2 centuries after 632 AD by Bukhari, Muslim, Dawud et al. Between 634 AD (known start of Arab wars of expansion) and 691 AD there is very little evidence of the Quran, or Mohammed, or Islam and there is even some contradicting evidence, like coins with Muhammad written on it AND a cross.
What if Islam was indeed based on a distinct historical figure (Ubul Qasim?) but that the religion Islam was much concocted around him in a much later time than his lifetime.
What if the real reason of the Arab conquests was that at that particular time the worldpowers Rome and Persia were much weakened by the plaque and an exhaustive war against one another? And Islam as we know it only came later?
Sometimes the truth is NOT what you like it to be. And you should not pick the stories you like as being the truth and the doctrine to follow primarily because you like them, or your loved ones like them.
Of course he is in hell where all the other demons are with satan their master.
Zimmerman,
On the alleged extra ordinary intelligence of your 'prophet', it is evident in his misrepresentation of the stories he had heard from childhood which were in circulation centuries before his birth. Take the quran for instance. Stories from other religions and even fables have been thrown in haphazardly and called revelations. Allah had know idea how long the sleepers spent in the cave.Sources of these stories have been proved today. On his knowledge of medicine, he propagated the Aristotelian theories which have been proved to be scientifically wrong. On geography, his knowledge was not even rudimentary. Acts of muhammadan worship were borrowed from other religions particularly the prevailing Arabian paganism where the rituals have been incorporated into muhammadanism. Nothing was ever original to Muhammad except violence and making debauchery part of the religious ritual.
//"Yep, lets all discuss other religions for non samples. to know truth we should know what is wrong, and what is right. They keep avoiding to give both at the same time. they keep focusing on scratching islam from list but cant give absolute one to replace."//
Well, what you said above is very apposite, appropriate. This is the positive approach.
Of course to Muslims Islam is the greatest religion there is, even if they learn here of it's faults and imperfections.
But Ali Sina is not in the business of offering better religious or lifestyle alternatives for Islam. He wants to break down a house first and only then built a new house, I believe he told me once. And he wants people to be as free as possible to choose their religion/ lifestyle. To him all or almost all other religions/ lifestyles are better than Islam.
For me: When Islam and Democracy clash, I say choose Democracy over Islam. And when Science and logical Darwinistic theories clash with Islam choose Science over Islam.
And I admit that Darwinism can't offer you any better alternative for life in heaven after death upon leaving Islam. Islam promises the soul or ego much more than Darwinism in that respect. But I think Islam can not deliver it either.
No matter what evidence is quoted from muhammadan sources, the muhammadan will keep denying. It is either what is quoted is not in Arabic or it has been quoted out of context. Yet they do exactly the same thing when quoting the quran and other sources in support of their position. Muhammadans live in perpetual denial. It is part of the system. Allah used to abrogate or made Muhammad forget some verses and brought 'better ones' in the places of those abrogated. No independent opinion is acceptable in muhammadanism. All must agree with every junk. Otherwise it is blasphemy.
Zimmerman: //"but ur hateful i showed this site to so many of my non muslim friends and u no what they said? They told me to report it! And make it a big deal cuz thy dodnt think it was acceptable wat so ever and wanted to do something about it!"//
Well, then, don't you see how diversified the non-Muslims are, how often they defend Muslims against their own fellow Christians and Atheists and all other variations? Can't you be appreciative for this diversity at least?
There are many Westerners like your friends, but invariably they are shown to have no interest in studying Islam and what the counterjihadists have to say, and without interest it is THEY who know Islam very little, much less than us. And they were of course trying to please you, them being your friends.
And did you for instance tell them about the deathpenalty for apostasy under Islam, supported by all four Islamic theological schools; Shafi-Hanafi-Hanbali-Maliki? And in polls high percentages of Muslims support that too. Requests to Muslims and Muslim organisations by Former Muslims to renounce deathpenalty for apostasy on paper have fallen on deaf ears almost completely.
If your friends are Christians or atheists, then they can change their religion at any time, with no penalty, but if they convert into Islam, they cannot then convert out of it again, on pain of death. Do they know that?!
And don't you see that if your "organisation" forces all born and converted Muslims to stay in Islam, instead of throwing them out of Islam, everytime they misunderstand Islam, it is your fellow-Muslims who cause the bad reputation of Islam and not the Non-Muslims who react to Muslims and study all interpretations of all it's texts and all it's practices around the world and not just your VERSION of Islam.
You see Narcole1919721 writing here? Look at what SHE wrote earlier on this site on that issue:
//"Whats the use im here defending islam and moslems, while moslems themselves ruining islam. read that sina said he doesnt hate moslems, but hates islam. Why? Cos he thinks its islam who taught all the wrong. In fact its the moslems themselves who misunderstood islam."//
Demsc,
The truth is that she will never go away because she has seen the difference between tolerance and intolerance. Whatever filth she vomits is accepted here. That is not the case with the muhammadan sites.
Demsci,
It's good she is reminded that not every body is an arm chair theoretician who has never seen how hateful muhammadans are. This woman most probably lives in a Western country where she is insulated from harm by the very system she is now disparaging. She will be too cowardly to go and live in a traditional muhammadan society. We are not told about muhammadanism. We actually live with and experience hate by muhammadans and its effect every single day. We write from personal experiences. If she is so fed up with where she now calls home, let her relocate to the muhammadan paradise. As proof of the bankruptcy of her accusation that the West hates muhammadans, the latter are fleeing to the same West in their millions. It is strange that one runs to his enemy for protection; something that no sane person does.
Z., you wrote:
//".i myself have a life and we here live in peace with muslims and non muslims so im not gona waste my tym arguing with a bunch of losers tht have nothing better to do then spread hate over the internet behind a screen."//
This is just how you wriggle yourself out of the discussion.
Yesssssssssss
Are you hearing this from me for the first time? It is a recurrent theme.
There is no need to waste any time refuting something that is worthless. Allah is said to be the author of the quran (muhammadans now agree with Michael Hart that Muhammad was). This means every word is that of allah. There is no human input. But examine sura 1 "The Opening". It says "–YOU ALONE WE WORSHIP, AND YOU ALONE WE LOOK FOR HELP. GUIDE US TO THE STRAIGHT PATH, THE PATH OF THOSE WHOM YOU HAVE BESTOWED FAVORS,–".
Put it this way "You (allah) we (allah) worship, and you (allah) alone we (allah) look for help. Guide us (allah) to the straight path, the path of those whom you (allah) have bestowed favors–".
What sense does it make to a reasonable man? Allah seeks to be guided by allah; allah seeks protection and favor from allah. What is the point responding to such idiocy? Have you heard of the 'True Furqan? Those who have read it say that it is written in more beautiful Arabic than the quran. Challenging the quran at the time of Muhammad was the death penalty. All of you are liars.
Interesting, that.
We have by now heard about the Image that Mohammed has among Muslims. A sort of saint!
If we met him (a group of us, including Ali Sina), and he was as saintly as you say, we would still have to ask him, what kind of a society he advocated, democratic or dictatorial,
we would like to grill him about the deathpenalty for apostasy, the Golden Rule for all humans, not just Muslims, and how are the rules for men and women should be in his view.
Because obviously he had an opinion and a policy on all these issues. And later on in history there was enlightenment, big education, big media and democracy with different views and policies on these issues.
Might he, or Allah, consider to adopt some of them, since much of them were not existing in his time, we might ask?
And Miss Zimmerma,
don't you know that I-Hate-Islam lives in Nigeria, the country of Boko Haram? Boko Haram is consistently murdering his fellow Christians in his country. And he has done much investigation why they do that. And found both that they justify their actions with Islamic teachings and that these Islamic teachings indeed are so ambiguous that they easily can be abused, misused for violent acts against non-Muslims in an attempt to remove or subjugate them.
And you are thus not only in disagreement with him about interpretation of Quran-Sahih Hadiths-Sira but also with Boko Haram. And you might want to emphasize to him that you disagree with Boko Haram and why precisely you do that and how you are going to show that in a meaningful way.
At least that would be much better than just saying that "his hate makes me sick" as if "his hate" came from nowhere.
Muhammadanism is nothing but fiction.
"i feel like its a waste if time debating with u ppl its sad to see such hate in the world".
Miss Zimmerman, can't you see BEYOND this hate that appals you? Can't you see and admit good reasons for it?
First of all, it is on the internet, and you can zap away. The same hate exudes from the Islamic websites in the other direction, I suppose. And it is both OK and in the end good for dialoque and progress. It would be no good if people were discussing like here on the street or workplace or home, but on the internet and in the media it serves a purpose. Of letting off steam in a non-violent way.
I challenge you to bring out the 'contradictions' in the Bible and let us make a comparison with that of the quran. The administrator of this site is not a believer in the Bible. He has clearly said that he is an atheist and has equally criticized the Bible. But if you want a debate on the Bible, I will appeal to him to let it happen.
Zimmerman,
Afghanistan came after 9/11 when the terrorist govt of that country refused to handover Osama bin Laden who had claimed credit for the attacks.If that country had not become an accessory to the fact there would have been no problem. By shielding a man who had attacked a sovereign country without the least provocation, Umar had accepted responsibility for the crime. Did you expect America to have sought and obtained your permission before taking action to punish those who had killed thousand of her nationals in cold blood? Muhammadans always prey on the weak. Not everyone is so devilish. Have you read how muhammadan merchant ships captured American vessels off the N. American coast and enslaved thousands of the crew at a time when America was weak? In some cases America was forced to pay ransom after being insulted. The Libyan ambassador to London justified this as complying with the muhammadan injunction of ridding the world of evil which was made up of the Jews and Christians. America has not remembered those years. So what went around has not been made to come around. Learn history first before opening your mouth in public.
Miss Zimmerman,
You talked about racism towards Muslims but there are Muslims of all races and also Islam-critics of all races. Now even millions of Egyptians demonstrate against the Muslim Brotherhood. And astonishingly against the American president and ambassador for supporting the Brotherhood!
And the people here are not anti-MUSLIMS but anti-Islam. And to us it seems OK to hate something considered bad, and Islam is seen as bad, at least in part. And also inspiring Muslims to hate and fight and overpower or block Non-Muslims significantly. And even if most Muslims are not responsible for the acts of other Muslims, it remains a fact that Islam often prophits from Muslim-agression. And since Islam is the most important aspect of a Muslim's life, it seems to me that all Muslims also prophit when Islam prophits.
It often looks as if Muslims themselves compete, and often unfairly, in a supremacist way, with democratic laws and rules and interests of democratic nations, and with other religions.
So, we might say to Muslims: (many of) YOU STARTED THE HATE! Or "your prophet started the hate", what you object is a response, so you should correct the cause, not the response.
Miss Zimmerman (Tiffany?) I agree with Chuck. He referred to you using the Tu Quoque-fallacy, meaning that you can't logically defend someone who or something that is "on trial" (called "defendent") by saying that someone or something else "is also bad". That won;t exonerate the defendent.
And don't forget that many atheists & Darwinists are on this site too (Ali Sina himself among them). So to them criticism on the Bible doesn't matter here.
And Allah challenged infidels to make ayat kitab that could give miracles for rahmatan lil 3alamin. now im challenging any infidel to bring new kitab that they think could replace quran. And lets examine it thoroughly *_*
Zimmerman,
Being forced to flee one's home does not mean abandonment and it does not entitle a trespasser to what is not his. Of the lands suggested to the Jews, they rejected all the others and preferred where they now are because of their historical link. Had they been hungry after other peoples' territories, they would not have preferred a portion of a parched desert over more hospitable areas. The Jews were chased out of muhammadan countries, where they had lived as dhimmis for a land of their own. In that flight, they were deprived of all their possessions. You see that as normal. Hitler killed millions of Jews with the cooperation of the leader of the muhammadan world, Amin el-Husseini. 5 year old Palestinian children master the art of killing babies because they are Jews. If they are detained, which is worse, imprisonment or death? In Bukhari 4:52:177, Muhammad showed his love for the Jews by saying that the day will not come until the rock tells the muhammadan to kill the Jew hiding behind it. When you write your fiction, do you care to consult muhammadan literature?
I know why, cos they cant find what to replace for all. the absolute one that none could tarnish. they are confused.
Yep, lets all discuss other religions for non samples. to know truth we should know what is wrong, and what is right. They keep avoiding to give both at the same time. they keep focusing on scratching islam from list but cant give absolute one to replace.
@narcole1919721,
Now its your turn to answer my question.
What if you witnessed him clean from ur accusations
Just wow 😐
Sympathy for moslems, alhamdulillah, hidayah knocking
Oh how about subhanallah meaning you said
Zimmerman,
You have my sympathy. At the rate you are getting sick, you will soon drop dead. If you are so sick because of this site, then get the hell off it. What an ignorant fellow! Have you ever heard the term "aliyah' or 'diaspora'? The first one means return to Israel while the second means dispersal beyond Israel. Why are they important? Because they relate to the return of the Jews to their ancestral land where they were dispersed from. Even your accursed quran confirms that where Israel now is belongs to them. If you are familiar with history, you would have known that after Titus sacked Jerusalem in 70 AD the Jews millions of Jews were killed and millions more fled to other lands. But a few still remained. To ensure that the Jews would never return, Titus gave their lands to their enemies among whom were the Philistines.
@Zimmerman,
//Btw Zimmerman is a jewish family name
@narcole1919721,
I have honestly answered your question. Be honest and answer the 'what-if' I have raised.
@Zimmerman,
When the charge is on Quran it is pointless to bring in Bible or any other book simply because it doesn't prove Quran to be good. You can assume all non-muslim religious texts are zalim/evil. It still doesn't absolve Quran and Muhammad of the crimes perpetrated in the name of Allah. Simple. If you can't digest this simple fact then what can we do?
Study* converts* might*…i apologize for my spelling in the last comment im
Typing to fast but i hope u understand …i no ignorance gets in the way most times but u might understand how to love others one day…peace out haters ☺
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Zimmerman: If you want your comments appear as immediately, you have to sign in. Otherwise you have to wait for me to approve them each time. Ali Sina
I replied to this n forgot to tag u my bad☺ hope mr sina posts it…i guessing u wilm be smart enought to fighre out which one it is …i think
First of all i didnt change anything tht was u…second of all dont put more thn one verse in one and playung around with the holy quran…
58:12
O you who have believed, when you [wish to] privately consult the Messenger, present before your consultation a charity. That is better for you and purer. But if you find not [the means] – then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
58:13
Have you feared to present before your consultation charities? Then when you do not and Allah has forgiven you, then [at least] establish prayer and give zakah and obey Allah and His Messenger. And Allah is Acquainted with what you do.
Tht was the verse right after 58:12
U hv made n flooded the site with irrelevant and false information about islam that u made up from ur head and no proof to back any of it up…u asked us to prove u wrong and im sharing the tru teachings of islam tht hv been sited from the real holy book and hadiths if i copy paste its only for ur educational purposes and to prove ur few points about islam n the prophet pbup that u hv made up wrong with real islamic facts
Exactly…its funny when i mention the bible thy say tht we shouldnt mention the bible and its out of the topic loool why is it ok to mention the quran and not the bible? Even thu thrs so much contridictions in the bible tht mk absoulutly no sence..but in sure thy wont no tht cuz thy dont read it and thr only goal is to be racisit toward muslims and hateful no matter wat…ignorance my froend is a diesease thy hv sometyms it cud be cured n sometyms ignorance with hate is harder to cure…
Noooooooooo
What if x x
What if not x.x
What if not in hell,cos hes a nice person
Not that, sakat 🙁
Looooool! Omg r u becoming blinded by ur hate or r u just ignorant about the whole whos killing who part? Im sorry but from what i see and most ppl see is that israel are the ones oppressing palestinians in thr own lands stealing thrs lands and killing its ppl since 1948 since the zionist came to palestine n occupied it! Causing massacres against the palestinians…Get ur history stright dude…building illigal settlement homes and detaining innocent ppl and CHILDREN as young as 5 yrs old! Is no lt vry peaceful is it! is any of tht right in ur hateful eyes? Are israelis muslim? NOOO! Why dont u write about that huh?!
The US went in to countries that thy dont belong in and completely destroyed them and killed innocent ppl! Are they muslim?! NOOOO!
Israel killed labanese ppl and brought war to lebanon! Israel got in a war with egypt be4 as well…and ur telling me islam teaches to hate jews? Lool i think ur reffering to jews being taught to hate arabs and kill them…and i think u hv the history mixed up… was hitler a muslim? NOOOOOO!
He was the one killing the jews not muslims! and now jews are doing the same tht was done to them to the innocent palestinians ! So get ur facts stright and see who are actually the real victims! If its anything i would say tht ur religion is the one teaching hate since everything thts happining in Iraq in afganistan in palestine in lebanon and so on are being done by NON MUSLIMS! But im not ignorant like u and no that what is done by those killers have nothing tk do with religion thy r jus devils! Ur pathetic and is probably one of them and thts exactly why u r defending violence…u mk me sick i hope u get wat u truly deserve one day… wat goes around comes around and just remmeber tht when the tables turn the other way just remember how hateful u were towards ppl
Wow new nigerian fiction
When you leave the substance and get personal, it means that you are venturing into uncharted territory and should expect pay back in kind. Do not complain when that happens. It is either you stay on the debate and stop being a gutter snipe or face the consequence. Stop name calling. Lay out your points and others will take it up from there.
He also said that women are equivalent to black dogs, which are satan, and donkeys because all of them annul the prayers of the 'faithful'. To him women are bad omen. Enjoy your degraded status as a semi human being in muhammadanism.
Of course, he was and still remains the meanest thing under the sun.
@ Narcole
/What would you do if you met prophet and surprised how beautiful he is inside and outside…far from what you described?/
In criminal jurisprudence it is established law/fact that crime first originates in the mind and then executed through physical body .It is defined by a maxim ," Actus Dei Nemini Est Mens Sit Rea" (the act itself does not constitute guilt unless done with a guilty mind ) .If a doctor cuts the stomach of a patient and consequently the patient dies, the doctor cant be called murderer .Where as a person stab another person with an intention of looting him ,then he is certainly a murderer .So here your mad Mohammed had committed lot of heinous crimes (he knows very well of his actions ) therefore he is indeed a murderer and not a prophet. He had carried his habit/karma (criminal tendencies)along with his subtle body .As i have already said i maintain safe distance from wearer of skull cap,so the question of encountering this ugly person will not arise .Moreover he is in eternal hell and i am guarantee that, my place is already reserved in heaven ha ha ha.
@narcole1919721,
//What if you met him and you witnessed yourself that hes very nice and gentle.//
If I do then I will ask him what torments in Hell made him nice and gentle. I will tell him if he had been such when he was alive the world would have been far better and safer place.
I have answered your question, now I dare you to answer mine. If one day you indeed meet him and you found him to be worse than how we have described him and proven time and again, what would you do?
The Prophet of Islam (peace and blessings be upon him) said, "Women are the twin halves of men." The Quran emphasizes the essential unity of men and women in a most beautiful simile:
"They (your wives) are your garment and you are a garment for them." [Noble Quran 2:187]
Just as a garment hides our nakedness, so do husband and wife, by entering into the relationship of marriage, secure each other's chastity. The garment gives comfort to the body; so does the husband find comfort in his wife's company and she in his. "The garment is the grace, the beauty, the embellishment of the body, so too are wives to their husbands as their husbands are to them." Islam does not consider woman "an instrument of the Devil", but rather the Quran calls her Muhsana – a fortress against Satan because a good woman, by marrying a man, helps him keep to the path of rectitude in his life. It is for this reason that marriage was considered by the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) as a most virtuous act. He said: "When a man marries, he has completed one half of his religion." He enjoined matrimony on Muslims by saying: "Marriage is part of my way and whoever keeps away from my way is not from me (i.e. is not my follower)." The Quran has given the raison d'être of marriage in the following words:
"And among His signs is this, that He has created for you mates from among yourselves, that you may dwell in tranquility with them; and He has put love and mercy between you. Verily in that are signs for those who reflect." [Noble Quran 30:21]
The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was full of praise for virtuous and chaste women. He said:
"The world and all things in the world are precious but the most precious thing in the world is a virtuous woman. He once told the future khalifah, 'Umar: "Shall I not inform you about the best treasure a man can hoard? It is a virtuous wife who pleases him whenever he looks towards her, and who guards herself when he is absent from her."
On other occasions the Prophet said:
"The best property a man can have is a remembering tongue (about Allah), a grateful heart and a believing wife who helps him in his faith." And again: "The world, the whole of it, is a commodity and the best of the commodities of the world is a virtuous wife."
Before the advent of Islam women were often treated worse than animals. The Prophet wanted to put a stop to all cruelties to women. He preached kindness towards them. He told the Muslims: "Fear Allah in respect of women." And: "The best of you are they who behave best to their wives." And: "A Muslim must not hate his wife, and if he be displeased with one bad quality in her, let him be pleased with one that is good." And: "The more civil and kind a Muslim is to his wife, the more perfect in faith he is."
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was most emphatic in enjoining upon Muslims to be kind to their women when he delivered his famous khutbah on the Mount of Mercy at Arafat in the presence of one hundred and twenty-four thousand of his Companions who had gathered there for the Hajj al-Wada (Farewell Pilgrimage). In it he ordered those present, and through them all those Muslims who were to come later, to be respectful and kind towards women. He said:
"Fear Allah regarding women. Verily you have married them with the trust of Allah, and made their bodies lawful with the word of Allah. You have got (rights) over them, and they have got (rights) over you in respect of their food and clothing according to your means."
In Islam a woman is a completely independent personality. She can make any contract or bequest in her own name. She is entitled to inherit in her position as mother, as wife, as sister and as daughter. She has perfect liberty to choose her husband. The pagan society of pre-Islamic had an irrational prejudice against their female children whom they used to bury alive. The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) was totally opposed to this practice. He showed them that supporting their female children would act as a screen for them against the fire of Hell
About all the nonesence being said and the comments of how islam "teaches men to be abusive to their wives" im sorry but islam actually teaches men to respect women and that women have the same rights…women along time ago in the west (non muslims) used to fight for women rights to have equal rights as men…in islam that was nvr a problem women and men were always equal…as to abusive men thr are way more women abuse in the US and the west by non muslim men then muslims and im not going to be unrealistic and say thr are no muslim men that are not abusive im sure thr are…but that is NOT the teachings of Islam rather then culture and ignorance just like thr are some abusive non muslims thr are abusive muslims but thy will be punished for mistreating there women thr is no where in islam thr justifies women abuise or any kind of violence islam teaches us to look after animals that r in need so imagine if u mis treat another humen being… u ppl mk me sick trying to mk all muslims look bad and lie about islamic teachings u are the real monsters….shame on u
Women in the Quran and the Sunnah
Prof. 'Abdur Rahman I. Doi
In Islam there is absolutely no difference between men and women as far as their relationship to Allah is concerned, as both are promised the same reward for good conduct and the same punishment for evil conduct. The Quran says:
"And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women." [Noble Quran 2:228]
The Quran, in addressing the believers, often uses the expression, 'believing men and women' to emphasize the equality of men and women in regard to their respective duties, rights, virtues and merits. It says:
"For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah's praise, for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward." [Noble Quran 33:35]
This clearly contradicts the assertion of the Christian Fathers that women do not possess souls and that they will exist as sexless beings in the next life. The Quran says that women have souls in exactly the same way as men and will enter Paradise if they do good:
"Enter into Paradise, you and your wives, with delight." [Noble Quran 43:70]
"Who so does that which is right, and believes, whether male or female, him or her will We quicken to happy life." [Noble Quran 16:97]
The Quran admonishes those men who oppress or ill-treat women:
"O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should you treat them with harshness, that you may take away part of the dowry you have given them – except when they have become guilty of open lewdness. On the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If you take a dislike to them, it may be that you dislike something and Allah will bring about through it a great deal of good." [Noble Quran 4:19]
Ok wooooooow! Seriously ur pathetic…thr was no point posting those comments when u didnt post the more important ones the beggining part tht i put which mentioned how men should treat women in islam…r u for real? R u that scared ppl might actually prove ur points wrong and u dont post all comments? Ur a coward its actually kinda funny…i want all my comments posted…the way i wrote them nothing more nothing less…
What if hes not mean…
What if you met him and you witnessed yourself that hes very nice and gentle…
What would you do if you met prophet and surprised how beautiful he is inside and outside…far from what you described?
Such a day will never come. I have no interest in meeting something as mean as that.
@narcole1919721
If one day you indeed meet him and you found him to be worse than how we have described him and proven time and again, what would you do? I am certain we are correct but in a number of posts now we have proved that you are not certain. In fact you and some other guys overlook that and actually lie to make 'him' look good, even consciously!! Just see the post from Zimmerman about the last sermon and how it has been exposed to be a fabrication.
Can anybody forget the fate of that old poetess ,even Hitler would tolerate his criticism , he laughed Charlie Chaplin s mimicry about his character in the movie 'The Dictator'. Mad Mohammed is always mad he knows only throwing stone at others who don not follow his mimicry ha ha ha.
Wow..you mentioned prophets name so often, if only its sholawat, so much fadhilah you could get. Btw, if one day you met him, and he treated you so good, 180 degree from all you ever said, the description of him zhahir and bathin so beautiful, and all accusations you and others said not true, what would you do? What if, my dear…what would you do….
Freedom is that magnet which draws muhammadans, in their millions, from their countries to risk the perils standing between bondage and a better life for them. Not even the possibility of watery graves dampens their determination to make a profound statement that what they are leaving behind is evil. As proof of this, seven bodies of asylum seekers have been picked up off the coast of Italy. Unfortunately, they could not achieve their dream of that better life.But the statement was made all the same.
Doesnt matter ;D
Your job?
@narcole1919721
//What is freedom? //
Something muslims often wonder about.
@Zimmerman,
I have pointed out the lies and fabrications you alluded to in your post about the last sermon. Care to respond to it?
What is your name? 🙂
What is freedom?
Zimmerman,
It is funny that you are talking about the site administrator not understanding the meaning of freedom of speech. You are allowed to write whatever you want here without being censored. I can tell you what I have experienced on muhammadan sites which will not post any of my comments because they do not glorify what they stand for.Some days ago I experienced what you are complaining about on this site and protested to the administrator. You read my complaint about one of my comments having been deleted. You responded to that in one of your reactions. If commentators on opposite side of the debate complain about similar experiences, then the site cannot be accused of bias.
That a muhammadan should complain about lack of freedom is the height of it. Why complain about being denied something that you strongly believe the other person is not entitled to? SHEER HYPOCRISY.
Zimmerman, If you browse this site or sites like it, like JihadWatch, you'll notice that:
These sites often only repeat and react to what self-confessed Muslims say and do, including violence, in the name of Islam, which they mention as motivation. And then you'll see that much of what you debate here is said and done by Muslims themselves.
And the real problem lies with the Muslims, not with those who merely report and react to what Muslims themselves often say and do and aim for.
For instance, do you know Anjem Choudhary? He clearly sais democracy is bad and should be exchanged for a (dictatorial) caliphate.
And are you in favor or against the deathpenalty for apostasy? Many Islam-apologists claim Islam does not have that, but they are in contradiction to all 4 of Islamic theological schools; Shafi-Hanafi-Hanbali-Maliki and against many, many Muslims, according to polls.
Why don't Muslims make their own house in order first? If they can't do that, why don't Muslims like you separate irrevocably from all these misunderstanders of Islam (if we are misunderstanders but merely report, then those we report on must be misunderstanders too) through some kind of official secession?
Zuhdi Jasser and Irshad Manji have already done so. How come so few Muslims support them?
Or at least how come so few Muslims openly support Anjem Choudary? So that at least we know those who support him are planning against our democracy.
So can you prove jesus?
Zimmerman,
Dr Sina and I are two different individuals. He lives in Canada while I live in Nigeria but that distance notwithstanding, we have a common purpose which is to expose muhammadanism and free those who are still in bondage. Our writing styles should confirm this to you. He writes better grammar than I do because English is not my mother tongue. I only struggle to keep pace. Regardless of that impediment, I will continue to do the little that I can in furtherance of the cause. You may wish to defend muhammadainsm as much as you want. That will not reverse the fact that the days of pulling wool over peoples' eyes are over. Muhammadanism will be seen for what it actually is: EVIL.
Zimmerman,
Concerning your perceived benevolent treatment of women in muhammadanism by Muhammad and his companions, the best witness is Aisha who lamented the plight of 'believing women' whose color she described as being greener than green. Women had unbridled rights in pre-muhammadan Arabia. There were societies ruled by women then. Women were successful in business as Khadija was. It was her wealth and position which attracted Muhammad. But he changed all that. Women from his time became foot mats to the extent that his god decreed, very stupidly, that any society ruled by a woman cannot prosper. Women were reduced in worth to sub human. A man is expected to love his wife but in muhammadanism love is not a necessary ingredient in marriage. Emphasis is on wealth, family status, beauty and religiosity. Christ taught us to love our wives to the point of laying down our lives for them just as HE did for the Church. In muhammadanism, you are to flog her but not as much as you flog your slave. Who determines the intensity of the strokes? How fair is that?
Zimmerman,
You have created a utopia about the tolerance of muhammadanism while accusing Sina and I of hate. I repeat myself that you are ignorant of the teachings of muhammadanism. Maybe what is hate to others is love to you in muhammadan parlance. Apart from the quran, show the world one other religious text which is based on hate. Where do you find a whole race singled out as the object of hate and the adherents enjoined in unmistakable terms to hate that race? Has the quran not done this to the Jews? Where else do you find non believers of a religion being described as the 'vilest thing in the sight of its god'? The violence committed daily on non muhammadans is generated by the hatred in your so-called religion. For you to see all the killings done in the name of muhammadanism as the work of a few people marks you out as a sadist just as Muhammad was. I have said it repeatedly that I do not hate but pity the muhammadan because he/she acts out of ignorance. But convince me on why I should not hate muhammadanism which is evil.
Zimmerman,
You have succeeded in proving nothing. How disingenuous of you to quote sura 58:12 without the concluding part which made it obligatory to pay consultation fee to Muhammad. It says:"DO YOU HESITATE TO OFFER ALMS BEFORE YOUR CONSULTATION WITH HIM? IF YOU DO NOT-AND ALLAH WILL PARDON YOUR OFFENCE-THEN RECITE YOUR PRAYER AND PAY THE ALMS-TAX AND SHOW OBEDIENCE TO ALLAH AND HIS APOSTLE. ALLAH IS COGNIZANT OF ALL YOUR ACTIONS".
Need you be told that a tax is a compulsory levy and nobody has a choice in its payment? Your quarrel is with my using the word 'alms' instead of 'charity'. That is what the version I quoted from uses. You have to show that I changed it. But what is the difference between 'alms' and 'charity'? Why pay alms or charity to the 'prophet'?
Thr were comments about the prophet tht i posted thr was 33 points tht i had and u only posted #1 lol…thy were simple points tht were not offensive rather educational…so i dont understand why u didnt post thm all yet u post all the comments tht come into agreement with u…im not asking u to believe in them but u have this blog for a reason for u to share ur ideas and for ppl to comment and thr is really no point of the comment place if ur not going to accept all views…not very professional is it now
@Zimmerman
You are flooding the site with irrelevant copy pastes. Pleas just engage in dialogue. If people want to read Mualim articles they will go to Muslim sites.
These aspects were much emphasized by the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). He exhorted men to marry women of piety and women to be faithful to their husbands and kind to their children. He said:
"Among my followers the best of men are those who are best to their wives, and the best of women are those who are best to their husbands. To each of such women is set down a reward equivalent to the reward of a thousand martyrs. Among my followers, again, the best of women are those who assist their husbands in their work, and love them dearly for everything, save what is a transgression of Allah's laws."
Once Mu'awiyah asked the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), "What are the rights that a wife has over her husband?" The Prophet replied, "Feed her when you take your food, give her clothes to wear when you wear clothes, refrain from giving her a slap on the face or abusing her, and do not separate from your wife, except within the house." Once a woman came to the Prophet with a complaint against her husband. He told her: "There is no woman who removes something to replace it in its proper place, with a view to tidying her husband's house, but that Allah sets it down as a virtue for her. Nor is there a man who walks with his wife hand-in-hand, but that Allah sets it down as a virtue for him; and if he puts his arm round her shoulder in love, his virtue is increased tenfold." Once he was heard praising the women of the tribe of Quraish, "…because they are the kindest to their children while they are infants and because they keep a careful watch over the belongings of their husbands."
I would marry a muslim man any day if he follows these teachings of islam
Woman as mother commands great respect in Islam. The Noble Quran speaks of the rights of the mother in a number of verses. It enjoins Muslims to show respect to their mothers and serve them well even if they are still unbelievers. The Prophet states emphatically that the rights of the mother are paramount. Abu Hurayrah reported that a man came to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) and asked: "O Messenger of Allah, who is the person who has the greatest right on me with regards to kindness and attention?" He replied, "Your mother." "Then who?" He replied, "Your mother." "Then who?" He replied, "Your mother." "Then who?" He replied, "Your father."
The Prophet's followers accepted his teachings and brought about a revolution in their social attitude towards women. They no longer considered women as mere chattels, but as an integral part of society. For the first time women were given the right to have a share in inheritance. In the new social climate, women rediscovered themselves and became highly active members of society rendering useful service during the wars which the pagan Arabs forced on the emerging Muslim Ummah. They carried provisions for the soldiers, nursed them, and even fought alongside them if it was necessary. It became a common sight to see women helping their husbands in the fields, carrying on trade and business independently, and going out of their homes to satisfy their needs.
Ayshah reported that Saudah bint Zam'ah went out one night. 'Umar saw her and recognized her and said, "By God, O Saudah, why do you not hide yourself from us?" She went back to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and told him about it while he was having supper in her room, and he said, "It is permitted by Allah for you to go out for your needs." The predominant idea in the teachings of Islam with regard to men and women is that a husband and wife should be full-fledged partners in making their home a happy and prosperous place, that they should be loyal and faithful to one another, and genuinely interested in each other's welfare and the welfare of their children. A woman is expected to exercise a humanizing influence over her husband and to soften the sternness inherent in his nature. A man is enjoined to educate the women in his care so that they cultivate the qualities in which they, by their very nature, excel….
so let us be objective; if you want to judge someone you have to do the following:
1) hear from him personally.
2) review his thought with sound logic.
3) if you approve of his logic, then see if his actions go in line with such logic.
4) if that happened, then all you have to do is to believe him. that is what allah's messenger (pbuh) said "obligation is dependant on the mind"……so whoever is mindless has no obligation.
these are four logical steps which you are supposed to use to judge muhammed (pbuh) or judge any humen being…stop being so judgmental and hatful on a topic u are 100% clueless about
@Ihateislam First of all when u qoute verses from the holy quran plz do it properly and finish the verse and dont change the meaning
You have o.o
How about i ask demsci to make and give? he wants to be ally 🙂
Toy,
I have no time to waste on frivolities.
Anyway, how about grapes? will you take them from me? 🙂
Both.
Will you follow her?
Like? i ate them. Now its your turn 🙂
It is one person at a time. She performed her duty creditably and the world should be at her feet to honor her. She deserves having her name written in gold because her exploit is a rich legacy for posterity.
Me or the cookies? ._.
It goes beyond self glorification. Corroboration is required.
As innocent as danger.
Wanna follow her?
But im nice *-*
And the serpent could be innocent too. ~~~~¤
It is not the eating but the cookies themselves, depending on their source. In this case the source is very unreliable.
Which woman now? If your mean Zayyanab of Khayyaba, she is a heroine and a martyr. She helped to expose a monumental fraud to the world.
Is eating cookies suicide? *munches*
Are you frail or frailty? Lady Macbeth told the husband to 'look like the innocent flower but be the serpent under it". What looks frail and innocent can be worse than a tempestuous ocean.
So you pitty the woman? now take my cookies, please.
Committing suicide is called 'playing the Roman fool'. I am neither a Roman nor a fool. If your prophet knew that the meat was poisoned and he still ate it, then he qualified to be called 'the Roman fool'. However, eating the food proved beyond the shadow of any doubt that he was not a prophet because it made him fall sick for three years and then killed him.
Your prophet did not want to hurt the felling of the giver but he hurt her life by getting her beheaded. Which was worse, hurting her feeling or ending her life in such a ghastly way?
As a hero you should taste first and sacrifice yourself in order to make sure their safety. here, take one, you eat half, i eat half @
I have a duty to warn people about what can kill them.Not every food brings nourishment. Some result in death.
But my prophet still ate, eventhough poisonus, cos he didnt want to hurt the givers feelings. btw my cookies are safe. trust me. dont hurt my feelings, im an innocent weak fragile woman ('_')
I was offering guests my cookies. they must be hungry. if you dont want to eat them, fine, but you shouldnt let others starve -_-
Who is pete and how does he relate to all this?
What has santa got to do with this?
This toy has a problem understanding simple things. I have already told you that I will not allow you to commit murder by 'stuffing' your cookies down anybody's throat and that includes Sakat as well.
No, thanks. I don't need them.
Quite irrelevant.You wanted to choke me with your 'cookies'.
Okay, now would you like to taste cookies i made with love? .^^.
What do you think about pete, dont you think black pete was a cruel man who would punish children who didn't behave? Reminding us to someone here? did he inspire you? is your name pete?
But you believe in santa. In mal :/
Sakat, the hater doesnt wanna eat my cookies. I only wanted to help sharing love. What do you think? Will you accept these cookies made from love? .^^.
Do you celebrate x mas n wait for santa claus?
@narcole1919721
//You dont even know whether its a he or she //
Unlike Islam I am not misogynist. So to me Zimmerman's gender doesn't matter. All I know is that Zimmerman is an Eastern European/Russian family name. It gives no indication about the OP's gender and it is then better to remain gender invariant. What has been said above suffers from lack of authenticity and deliberate insertions. I have just pointed those out exposing the lies.
Zimmerman,
There is nothing extra ordinary about Muhammad's intelligence. He was simply a despot who maximized control over his subjects like all despots do. Muhammad was human and fallible. Why is it criminal for people to criticize him and question his intelligence openly? Scholarship accepts challenges and is not close circuited. Characteristically you wrote about Muhammad having known both the past and the future. But isn't it interesting that such a man did not know that he would be given poisoned food which led to his early death? If conquests made him great and a prophet, then all conquerors are prophets with divine call. There is nothing great about an illiterate writing the quran. Homer was blind and wrote classics. One of the greatest scientists of our time is vegetated. He can't even talk.What Muhammad called revelations were stories he recycled. There was nothing new in them, just distortions backed by the use of force for acceptance.
Zimmerman,
Muhammadan history has it that Muhammad did not write or order for the writing of the quran. That came when his successors wanted to curb all the uncertainties in the various versions in circulation at the time. Zayed was saddled with the task. His reaction was that it would have been easier for him to move a mountain than compile the quran because there were no reliable materials to work with. Available sources were barks and leaves of trees, bones and skins of animals, rocks, human breasts etc and a sura found was eaten by a goat. How well preserved were these sources? Those proficient in reciting the quran had majorly been killed during the wars and the few left were not included in Zayed's committee. After the compilation, the work met so much criticism. This further raises questions about its reliability. The shiites confirm this. Uthman was killed by Muhammad ibn Abu Bakr for "CORRUPTING THE MESSAGE OF ALLAH". Yet it is that very confirmed corrupted version which you read and venerate today. Between the Holy Bible and the quran, which commands more respect?
Zimmerman, Let us talk a little about the reliability of the quran. How was it originated? Did Muhammad get it when he met allah in his paradise? Was he inspired to write it, in which case it will not be the immutable words of allah? Did gabriel speak the words in Muhammad's dream, which would make whatever he heard a third party delivery instead of coming directly from the deity?
Zimmerman,
You challenged me to quote from the quran or hadith that allah controlled people visiting Muhammad's houses.
Sura 33:53 "BELIEVERS, DO NOT ENTER THE HOUSES OF THE PROPHET FOR A MEAL WITHOUT WAITING FOR THE PROPER TIME, UNLESS YOU ARE GIVEN LEAVE. BUT IF YOU ARE INVITED, ENTER; AND WHEN YOU HAVE EATEN DISPERSE".
That means one could only be given a meal if invited or if he met Muhammad eating. The discretion to make an offer was entirely his. So it was with the grapes. If he had wanted, he would have offered to those around.
He charged consultation fees.
Sura 58:12 "BELIEVERS, WHEN YOU CONSULT THE APOSTLE, GIVE ALMS BEFORE SUCH CONSULTATION. THAT IS THE BEST AND PUREST FOR YOU.—
"DO YOU HESITATE TO OFFER ALMS BEFORE YOUR CONSULTATION WITH HIM?"
In other words, pay before service. The problem is that instead of reading for yourselves, you rely on ignorant imams.
i will introduce here for you a small piece of our holly wisdom and knowledge which is par with science ,actually it is based on science and not on useless crap sermons of Mohammed (Quran). Thus it run's precisely like this ."The Absolute is beyond all phenomena and existence. Anything we perceive with our senses is an expression of relative existence, that is, existence which is relative to some other existence. We may call it conditional existence. If we examine any event in our life we will find it related to something else that is not absolutely independent, that in its turn is dependent upon other things outside of itself.
For instance, the sense of pleasure is related to the sense of pain. If one has not suffered from pain, how can one enjoy the bliss of pleasure? Suffering is the pre-conditon of pleasant feeling.Enjoyment is mere comparison. So is the case with knowledge. It all depends on comparison. Had there been no darkness, there would have been no light. According to Vedanta, this dual existence is called vyavaharika satta, that is, “one depending upon the other”. Within the realm of duality we caanot find the Absolute that is everlasting and unchangeable.Relative existence is subject to change and it extends as far as there is timeand space; the Absolute, however, is beyond the flux of reality.
What are time and space? Time is the interval that exists between two thoughts. A thought arises in our mind and is followed by others, and that succession between the two thoughts is called time. Space means co-existence. Suppose we are aware of something “A” and at the same time think of some other thing “B” and hold these two thoughts together in our mind.That which separates them is called space.Consequently, time and space both depend upon the existence of mental coditions. Analyzing this way, we find that in this phenomenal world everything is within time and space. One who can go beyond them rises above the mental state. So long as there is time, there is space,but after crossing the realms of time and space, we reach the absolute unconditional Reality, without beginning or end. All the phenomenal bodies __ like the sun, moon and earth, and anything we percieve through our senses __have a beginning and consequently must have an end. Compare your Islam to this higher thoughts of Sanatan Dharma of ancient Indai ,yours is simply a bundle of fake currencies ha ha ha.
I can't see any love in an unrepentant muhammadan. It might be taqiyya.
I should show my love for you by allowing you to asphyxiate me by stuffing "eid cookies into my mouth" or the mouth of anybody for that matter? That will not be love but an encouragement to murder. Both of us will stand condemned before God. I can never be a party to such evil. Loving you as a person has nothing to do with supporting your bad ways and you have plenty of those. You have to be weaned off muhammadanism.
*sobs* i made the cookies with love…you hurt my feelings :'/
You said you love me, liar.
It remains 'any'.
quran.
Any form of killing, including suffocation, can be employed by a muhammadan.
And btw prophet muhammed pbuh nvr used to tk anyones wives as u say @ihateislam lol wth u tlking bout u wish u were him he was vry respected by all and loved and ppl used to ask him to tk thr daughters hands in marriage cuz he was a great man
Btw @ihateislam…u had a comment that said that u "dont have a problem woth the bible"…why dont u? Because its been changed a million tyms by humen hands? And tht thr are 100s of differents copies that say different things and contradict? Which one of te 100s do u follow? Cuz i only follow ONE thats NEVER been changed and muslims all over the world follow one BOOK with the exact same words in it that is why islam os the number ONE growing religion in the world my friend if u opened ur mind and asked urself those questions and why hundreds and hundreds convert to islam these days and its growing and growing the. Thr has to be something right…no?
Just a some points for u @ihateislam n sina
1. Sound Intellect
The Messenger (pbuh) had an excellent, complete and sound intellect. No man has ever had an intellect as complete and perfect as his. Qadhi Iyaadh16, may God have mercy on him, said:
This becomes clear to an individual when the researcher reads the Prophet’s biography and understands his state of affairs, and his meaningful and inclusive utterances and traditions, his good manners, ethics and moral character, his knowledge of the Torah and Gospel and other Divine Scriptures, and his knowledge of statements of the wise, and knowledge of by-gone nations, and ability to strike examples and implement policies and correct emotional manners. He was an example and paradigm to which his people could relate to in all branches of knowledge; acts of worship, medicine, laws of inheritance, lineage, and other matters as well. He knew and learned all of this without reading or examining the Scriptures of those before us, nor did he sit with their scholars. The Prophet had no formal schooling, and was without knowledge of the above before being commissioned as a Prophet, nor could he read or write. The Prophet (pbuh) was wise to the fullest extent of his mental capacity. God, the Exalted, informed him of some of what had taken place (in the past) and of that which would take place in the future. This is a sign that the Dominion belongs to God, and that He is capable over all things…
Hehehe…reminded me to some group.
I dont know what comment ur tlking about "@i hate islam" but thank u for giving me an answer that makes no sence at all plz when u give an answer site it either from the quran itself or from a hadith that proves the prophet muhammed peace be upon him did any of the things ur mentioned in fact mentioning things with out having proof from the quran or hadiths that u say thr "in" just shows ur ignorance and ppl will say this dude has no idea what he/she is tlking about and clearly did not read the quran …what i know is that he used to advise ppl not to go into ppls homes until they knock and are allowed in…the prophet pbuh had great manners and ethics and nvr hated on other like what ur doing…and about the grapes ppl go to stores all the time and buy food it doesnt always turn out as sweet as u want it to… The man didnt give it to him cuz he knew ot was sour he just offered some to him cuz he was the prophet of god and an amazing man and when he tasted that they were sour he didnt want to share with others so no one hurts the mans feelings…u have a problem understanding things read slowly next time please…
You have problem with mother?
*replaces word any with no* ^^
*stuffs eid cookies into your mouth* say bismillah ^^
This site is gender friendly. It is neither interested in gender identification nor segregation.Whatever gender a commentator is does not matter. No two persons' comments will equal one. In muhammadanism the testimonies of two female witnesses equal to that of one man.
Why are you not doing the same with your family? There is no spark of family feeling in you. Muhamadanism has taken the better part of you.
I don't have any problem with the Holy Bible. If you have, say what it is. My problem is with the mother of all lies: the quran.
Anything can be found in the quran except the truth.
You suffer what? ;D
Its eid. nizam must be busy celebrating eid with his family pfft
You dont even know whether its a he or she ;D
Do you have bible to say? ;D
Did ur holyscript find israfil's trumpet like nasa scientists did? ;D
Chuck,
Neither Zimmerman nor charcoal/narcotics has anything tangible to say. How could they? Their belief is based on the greatest hoax of all time.
@narcole1919721
//u didnt answer my challenge yet//
You made a claim which I have refuted and successfully defended my position since you didn't answer my challenge.
//Dont divert//
That was a separate thread. This one is different. Yet another myth that I am busting.
//its very funny that they come here quoting and paraphrasing qurans translation and hadiths translation using their own interpretations//
If the translations are wrong, just point out what or which part is wrong. You haven't been able to point that out, yet to try to poke your nose in each pie 🙂
//as if they know islam while they dont even know their religions and cant promote their religions here. //
Most of us know Islam better than you since we suffer it:-). And this site is not meant for promoting any particular religion, why should we do that?
//they dont care about what is right.//
In fact 'they' do. That is the whole purpose of running this site and us coming and commenting on Islam.
//we should question their secret intention behind this//
Only a fool would suggest that the intentions are secret:-). Just when it seems that you have reached the depth of mediocrity, you unearth new nadirs. I guess @Zimmerman is equipped enough to understand what I have pointed out above, no wonder (s)he didn't respond to it:-)
Zimmerman,
It seems that my earlier reply to your post has been deleted. However, I will reply to this one on Muhammad eating sour grapes given to him. Nobody would have wanted to incur the fiery temper of Muhammad by presenting to him something that was not good enough. The best was always reserved for the self appointed prophet. He took peoples' wives and no one dared to complain. People were afraid to annoy him for fear that he might have an unpleasant 'revelation' about them. Umar demonstrated that. When Muhammad did not want people to be coming to his houses, he conjured a revelation barring visitations without invitation and even when invited, guests should not overstay. Muhammad demanded payment from those who wanted to "conspire with the prophet". How could anyone have given him something that they would not have given to lesser beings? He simply did not want to share the grapes with his companions. So he said that they were sour. Muhammad was a selfish brute.
Our holly script don't say earth is flat ha ha ha.
Show proof. We are not in an age when somebody will wake up from sleep and make unsubstantiated claims expecting everybody to swim in an ocean of gullibility. When people asked for proof, they were threatened with physical harm here on earth and fire and brimstone in the hereafter.
The type that Muhammad ibn Abdallah ibn Mutallib could not wear and had to permanently cover his bald head with a turban.
I am. Are you? ;D
You do it all the time with Slave Mentality, Shabby and just this morning with Zimmerman. If it is permissible to you, why would it be disallowed someone else? There has to be a level playing field for all. I know that in muhammadanism, what is good for the 'faithfuls" is always denied the others. That is why the world is divided into the house of muhammadanism and the house of war. This site is a different ball game altogether. Everybody has equal right.
You have not given any samples and non samples. That is a deliberate effort to thwart the 'learning process'.
What kind of hats do you wear?
Subjective from same group ;D
In learning process, we need to give samples and non samples 🙂
Why then do you ask about my religion when you know that I know the Bible better then you do?
Thanks, Sakat. We are in this venture together to rid the world of evil.
He knows Bible very well because he is Christian,and he knows Qur'an exceptionally well (better than you) because he has to defend his faith on face of this murderous cult .He has done his homework very well hats up!! ihateislam.
Im asking your religion. Why should i ask you about arabic quran which i know better? you know bible better than me, dont you? ;D
Why don't you quote them yourself? I quote the quran and do not wait for you. Why don't you do the same if you have anything to say?
Isn't it simpler to state it in one or maximum of two words? In any case, I have not seen it.
"Nha;D', What?
Btw still skipping and diverting? could you bring psalm and peter i asked you to? ;D
I didnt refuse. read from 1200 comments. Many explanations. come visit my profile again ;D
Nah ;D
You have refused to say which 1 out 73 you belong to. Your are, therefore, focused on negativity, which is fishy, and we question your secret intention behind this.
Zimmerman, before you reply their msgs, ask their religions first. also their holyscripts. you'll find out they keep refusing to tell cos even if they have, they dont read their own holyscript. test their knowledge about their holyscript, they will always skip and avoid to answer! x'D its very funny that they come here quoting and paraphrasing qurans translation and hadiths translation using their own interpretations and as if they know islam while they dont even know their religions and cant promote their religions here. Then you will make conclution that they arent truth seekers, they dont care about what is right. They are focused on negativity, which is fishy. and we should question their secret intention behind this 🙂
u didnt answer my challenge yet. Dont divert x'D
Zimmerman,
What greater evidence of a hate filled religion does one need to be convinced that muhammadainsm is based on that? Read again the last sermon of Muhammad. It says that you should not harm a fellow muhammadan. But harming a non muhammadan is permissible. Why did Muhammad not talk of not harming humanity as a whole instead of being concerned with only his followers? There is no bad deed greater than hatred for 80% of mankind.
@Zimmerman,
Why are you propagating concocted stories? I challenge you to show this piece in Shahi Bukhari or Shahi Muslim : "All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; "
You have also edited some portions, since you copy pasted from Faizi's 1987 book titled "Sermons of the Prophet". Lets see what Tabari says (in the para on women: Volume IX: The Last Years of the Prophet): "Now then, O people, you have a right over your wives and they have a right over you. You have [the right] that they should not cause anyone of whom you dislike to tread on your beds; and that they should not commit any open indecency. If they do, then Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain from [evil], they have the right to their food and clothing in accordance with the custom. Treat women well, for they are [like] domestic animals with you and do not possess anything for themselves."
If we see what happened immediately after this sermon we would know Muhammad's real intentions. Ibn Ishaq says Jihad had begun immediately later : "Then the apostle returned and stopped in Medina for the rest of Dhul Hijja, Muharram and Safar. He ordered the people to make an expedition to Syria and put over them Usama bin Zayd; his freed slave. He ordered him to lead his cavalry into the territory of the Balqa and Al-Darum in the land of Palestine. The men got ready and all the first emigrants went with Usama."
Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) delivered his last sermon (Khutbah) on the ninth of Dhul Hijjah (12th and last month of the Islamic year), 10 years after Hijrah (migration from Makkah to Madinah) in the Uranah Valley of mount Arafat. His words were quite clear and concise and were directed to the entire humanity.
After praising, and thanking Allah he said:
“O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying to you very carefully and TAKE THESE WORDS TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT BE PRESENT HERE TODAY.
O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon your deeds. ALLAH has forbidden you to take usury (interest), therefore all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer any inequity. Allah has Judged that there shall be no interest and that all the interest due to Abbas ibn ‘Abd’al Muttalib (Prophet’s uncle) shall henceforth be waived…
Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.
O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under Allah’s trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.
O People, listen to me in earnest, worship ALLAH, say your five daily prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadan, and give your wealth in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to.
All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety (taqwa) and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.
Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.
O People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QURAN and my example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray.
All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness, O ALLAH, that I have conveyed your message to your people”.
(Reference: See Al-Bukhari, Hadith 1623, 1626, 6361) Sahih of Imam Muslim also refers to this sermon in Hadith number 98. Imam al-Tirmidhi has mentioned this sermon in Hadith nos. 1628, 2046, 2085. Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal has given us the longest and perhaps the most complete version of this sermon in his Masnud, Hadith no. 19774.)
One can heed words of wisdom and guidelines from the last sermon (khutbah) of the prophet (SAWS). His sermons emphasized on the following:
Sacredness of a Muslim’s life and property
The importance of propagating this message to all others (A Muslim’s responsibility thus does not end by following the religion)
A reminder that everyone is fully accountable for their deeds and Allah (God) will take every person into account. If everyone heeded to this fact alone, the world would be a much better place today.
“Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you.” These words of the prophet are self explanatory.
The prohibition of dealing with interest (Numerous accounts in Quran and Hadith prohibit taking, giving or being a part of any transaction dealing with interest).
“You will neither inflict nor suffer any inequity.” These words of the prophet are self explanatory.
The awareness of satan and how satan can work to deviate us from the right path and doing evil things.
Rights of women over men and rights of men over women.
Treatment of women with kindness.
Modesty and chastity in women.
Id like to share some stories if u dont mind about the prophet pbuh…u made this blog to give ppl a bad image about him and id like as u said try and prove u wrong (freedom of speech nus like u say so plz post all my comments much appriciated) and i dont want ur reward of 50 000 $ if i ever do prove u wrong u can donate that money to ppl that r in need cuz our prophet pbuh n islam asked us and tought us to think of the less fortunate always…
The Teachings and love of our prophet that u say is a "bad horriable person" there ar soooo many beautiful stories to share inshallah i will share a couple everyday☺
#1
THE HOLY PROPHET AND THE SOUR GRAPES
One day a poor man brought a bunch of grapes to the holy prophet Muhammad as a gift.
The holy prophet (pbuhf) ate one, two, three and then the whole bunch of grapes by himself.
He did not offer grapes to anyone present. The poor man who brought those grapes was very
pleased and left. One of the companions asked, "O prophet of Allah ! How come
you ate all the grapes by yourself and did not offer to any one of us present?
The holy Prophet smiled and said, "I ate all the grapes by myself because the grapes
were sour. If I would have offered you, you might have made funny faces and that would have
hurt the feelings of that poor man. I thought to myself that it's better that I eat all of them cheerfully
and please the poor man. I did not want to hurt the feelings of that poor man."
Such were the manners of this most noble prophet of Allah.
#2
Telling the truth is a very good habit. If you always speak the truth, you can save yourself from a lot of trouble! Here is a story of a man who did a lot of bad things, but his promise to tell the truth saved him.
Once a man came to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and said, "O Messenger of Allah (SWT), I have many bad habits. Which one of them should I give up first?" Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said, "Give up telling lies first and always speak the truth." The man promised to do so and went home.
At night the man was about to go out to steal. Before setting out, he thought for a moment about the promise he made with Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). "If tomorrow Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) asks me where have I been, what shall I say? Shall I say that I went out stealing? No, I cannot say that. But nor can I lie. If I tell the truth, everyone will start hating me and call me a thief. I would be punished for stealing."
So the man decided not to steal that night, and gave up this bad habit of stealing.
Next day, he felt like drinking alcohol, when he was about to do so, he said to himself, "What shall I say to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) if he asks me what did I do during the day? I cannot tell a lie, and if I speak the truth people will hate me, because a Muslim is not allowed to drink alcohol." And so he gave up the idea of drinking alcohol.
In this way, whenever the man thought of doing something bad, he remembered his promise to tell the truth at all times. One by one, he gave up all his bad habits and became a good Muslim and a very good person.
If you always speak the truth, you can be a good person, a good Muslim whom Allah (SWT) likes and favors. If Allah (SWT) – our Creator – is pleased with us, He will reward us with Heaven, which is a place of happiness and joy.
Moral of the Story: Make a promise; I shall always speak the truth and never break it.
U wouldnt have made this blog i meant to say*
If you do 99 good deeds and 1 bad, people will forget 99 and remember 1. If you do 99 sins and 1 good, Allah swt will forgive 99 and multiply 1❤
Allah swt is moree forgiving and merciful then humens are to each other…
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It is clear that you like imposing whatever you sell on people. But does not apply to me. If pointing out to you that muhammadanism is hatred means to you that one is unhappy, then Muhammad who was the father of hatred was himself the embodiment of unhappiness.
Attract reaction? u mean im attractive to you? 😉 doesnt ur hatred show ur unhappiness in life? :/
There is nothing about you. Being in a public forum whatever you do will attract reaction. You are right now crying your heart bitterly out.There is never a happy moment in your life.
Its funny to see you keep following me and say liar x'D see im not lying. im laughing
LIAR. Nobody has ever been obsessed with you. Neither did you post that comment for any reason except in response to that of Rambrandt. Stop deceiving yourself into believing that somebody is following you apart from refuting your lies.
Lololol i knew you would follow me. I intentionally wrote that to trigger u as test whether ur obsessed with me x'D
Another of the cliches.
Its just ur feeling 😉
How devious of you to insinuate that your religion is not respected while closing your eyes and ears to all the calumnies your co-religionists pour on the other religions based on your quran. It is muhammadanism that uses the derogatory term 'kafir' to describe those who do not subscribe to its belief system. No religion calls the muhammadan 'the vilest creature' before its God. Muhammadanism does just that. That means allah has more affection for something as dangerous as mosquito than it has for a man who does not worship it. In a situation where you are forbidden to differ from allah and Muhammad on anything, are you permitted to love what allah and its prophet hate. Is that not a recipe for the hatred muhammadans harbor for non members of the house of islam which propels them to murder, without the slightest emotion and provocation, those who are not muhammadans? Who gave you the right to hate others and expect that you will be loved? Unfortunately, those you hate do not reciprocate. They should. You really need some education.
It is the muhammadan who should first learn how to respect other people's beliefs. Nobody calls the muhammadan the derogatory name "kafir". That is a muhammadan invention. Nobody says that the muhammadan is the vilest thing before his God. Allah calls anyone who does not believe in it and its Muhammad 'the vilest thing' which means that something as harmful as mosquito has more value than a non muhammadan. In a context where allah says you cannot differ on what it and Muhammad said, can you love something that is the 'vilest before allah'? Is that not a recipe for hate and murder which takes place daily against non muhammadans? You are badly in need of education.
U no what i hv the courage to say fine that wasnt nessessary to use diff users i can prove my point with the same one…however im still wondering and confussed about the whole why cant muslims be friends with non muslims? Ur whole site doesnt hv relevent points and proof to prove any of ur points…thr is NO where in islam that indicates that the prophet was a bad person when i read about the prophet i learn that he was a very kind person to everyone muslims and nonmuslims and tought ppl how to hv good manners…in islam as a muslim, one should demonstrate to all people the goodness of islam with gentle manners and kind behaviour.
Hadith says "none of you truly believes until he loves for his brother or neighbors what he loves for himself" "brothers" is used in the most common context,and thus means brother in HUMANITY, including BOTH NON-muslims and muslims.
In the quran Surah Al Mumtahina allah swt says "allah forbids you not, with regards to those who do not fight you for your faith nor drive you out of your homes, to deal kindly and justly with them:For Allah loves those who are just." I dont no how u understand but The ayah is very clear allah asks ppl to be kind to each other no mater what faith u are…unless u are a victim and being oppressed and killed and kicked out of ur homes like in WAR then u can fight back and i think that is pretty fair to do so and defend urself im sure u would to….
nothing in islam prevents us from being kind, generous and helpful to non muslims…i have loooooots of non muslim friends that are very good friends that i spend alot of time with there is nothing in islam that says u cant be friends with a non muslim i dont no what kind of nonsence ur reading or learning from but when i take my refrences i take them stright from the holy book not from the internet nor from hateful racist ppl and not from being ignorant and passing on judgment…
in islam we HAVE to be fair, kind and reasonable within ourselves and with other people in ALL matters. Nvr judging others or have hate towards others Allah swt says in the quran we should be good and respectful everyone even the non believers because we all believe in one god…
In islam Allah swt says "if a person kills just ONE humen being its as if he killed ALL of humanity"
respect, love and peace is an onligation we have in islam
we have to respect other holy places no matter what they are! Thr is no tolerance for hate or harming other in islam what so ever…
in islam we are allowed to go into churches to learn and see what others believe in we are not allowed in ISLAM to hurt or curse at a non believer or vadilize churches or do any harmful action…
Islam comes from the root word Salam which means Peace….
Prophet muhammad (pbuh) said "he will not enter paradise who has a grain of arrogance in his heart" also says that "allah is beautiful and likes beauty Arrogance is to deny rights and look down upon people" just like what ur doing btw
@ Zimmerman
You seem to have either little comprehension or pretend to not understand. “I don’t give a damn what you write” means I will not censor you for what you say,but you can’t play childish games and post each comment with a different username. Why do you have to use multiple usernames? This is the question that you have to answer. Don’t beat around the bushes and explain why you posted 10 comments each with a different username, sometimes with a woman’s name and sometimes with a man’s name? Explain this first if you want to be taken seriously. If all you can say is “cuz I feel like it,” then my answer is also the same. I deleted your spams cuz I feel like it.
But I know the reason behind this silly behavior. By pretending to be a multitude of people you wanted to gain more credibility. You wanted to make the readers think a lot of people are saying the same thing s it must be true. I find this to be silly. Something that is false does not become true if a lot of people agree with it and truth can overcome all falsehood even if the entire wold is against it.
But as a Muslim you can’t help it. Even your false prophet played this very silly game to impress the foolish people. His other aliases were Allah and Angle Gabriel.
"I don't give a damn wihat you write."
If u dont give a damn to what ppl say then why do u have this blog? If u dont care then why do u expect ppl to lsn to u and read what u write but u dont care about others ppls opinions? That clearly shows what kinda person u are selfish….
And i am not scared to answer ur questions at like iv asked u many religious questins and gave u facts and u cant even answer me back proberly cuz u dont have a relevent point and proff to prove ur points…ur concentraiting on why im writing diff names lool like it the issue im sorry but im not the one going out of topic i put different names cuz i feel like i i no very well that thr is an IP address tht u can see lol …the point is not the names its what is written under
No not only women…men to and i hope not only muslims remove the hair cuz its nasty and unhygenic ur hair grows for a reason to let out dirt and poisions that are not needed in ur body and then u should remover it
@ Zimmerman,
I don’t give a damn wihat you write. You are free to write anything you wish ( as long as it is related to the topic) but you are required to follow the basic norms of civility. Why should you use a different username for every post anyway?
"This site is all a fake"
We all know Mickey mouse is face, Dr hannibal Lecter is fake and we show that we know they are fake by not being bothered about them :-).
So all your whining and bitching shows who you are :-). Keep practicing Islam, For someone of your character, you deserve its practice and the fruits of its practice…
How come Muhammad become a prophet, mercy to mankind when he couldn't pray for his own mother ?
How come he is always filled with rage against people who mock him, when he is supposed to bring peace ? Its not the quality of a 'mercy to manking' level prophet guy …
Why is muhammads allah so deficient in memory that he forgot what he said earlier ?
Why is muhammads allah rushing to fulfull the wishes of Muhammad, when his punishing the people who emulate muhammad ?
Why is muhammad so lust filled that he wants children to fulfill his lust ?
Why is the treatment of woman as a land to be tilled, cattle in herd considered as giving freedom to them ? What is the logic there ? We accept when you say women in west are decadent…But that means they must become duty bound and responsible. It does not mean they should be treated as land to be tilled, beaten with stick, made to fulfill the whims of husband etc…
We are not oppressed in anyway, we wear our hijab because we want to not because we are forced to and
Who is 'we'.. do you mean the Muslim women of Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Lebanon, and other Islamic countries or you mean some white girls who converted to Islam in a non muslim country where muslims are a demographic minority ?
if we want to do it for ourselves and Allah who are you to judge???
If you are doing it for Allah, why does our judgement affect you ?
why do you care when you are called follower of a mentally deranged guy, who thought he was the last prophet of god ?
Why do you care when we ask you to get out of Islam ? Surely if you are so sure and Allah is the all knowing all wise, you cannot be swayed by our arguments…We find that your religion is so bogus that there is nothing to be afraid other than you muslims weilding knives, guns, and bombs… Your allah is as real as our Dr Hannibal Lecter..
Mind your own business and live your own life, stop spreading your ignorance and stupidity nobody cares!!
Are you as a muslim minding your own business ? Why do you have come here if you doubt your resolve… 'Spreading Ignorance' is a common charge against non muslims… This comes from Muhammad's charge on those who saw through his ruse …
U left Islam that is ur own sin, stop embarrassing yourself..
Sin is something at causes huge pain, remorse, and regret etc..Leaving Islam has led people to more peace, productivity and refinement in life.
I love the prophet Muhammed (s.a.w) and I love my islam and Allah, if you don't that is your problem.
Our problem is your love for muhammad/Islam causes pain to us Non muslims. You cannot feed yourself/clothe yourself. You become a leech on the society or country you live in.
But leave us to practice our religion and stop judging..
You sound like a teen… Read Quran and Hadiths and try to understand our Judgement.
Btw for your info the reason why muslims marry more than one woman despite the age is to give them a life and to teach them islam,
BTW the reason we condemn Islam, is that Its not a religion. Its only a mad, abused conman's idealogy and is now used by the filthy rich Arabs to consolidate power in their hands. Islam is a cancer on yourself and a virus to others..:-).
Keep being a Muslim, while people are leaving the religion… Who is to blame if you chose it for yourself ?
Read the Quran, Hadiths, and Tafsir and keep practicing… after all you deserve it 🙂
something no non muslim will do..
Ofcourse, non muslims who know the reality of Islam will never preach Islam.
AND NON MUSLIMS ALSO RAPE AND KILL!!!!
So you know raping and Killing is wrong…but support it when you want to subdue Non-Muslims..
You brainless psycho…
Like I told you, You deserve Islam and the results of its practice..
"Whatever we have in this world and the society or status you are living up to is temporary, we are here preparing for the hereafter.. "
Says the Quran, which is just the ramblings of demented fellow called mohammad.
Just because someone uses the word "God" doesn't mean he is talking under authority from 'God'
"When you die you don't take any of these worldly things with you so why should we contribute to society??"
So you use this statement to say that we all should either follow quran or keep mum about the quran , Is that right ?
" Is society and this world your God? You don't even know that Allah is the same God that Jews and Christians pray to???"
Then you would have allowed Christians and Jews to pray in Mecca, shared the Temple at Jerusalem and would never have to fight with Jews or Christians…
"Everyone gets obese not only the Muslims, in fact you pork eating vultures are the ones that are most obese"
"'Vultures'" shows you are a muslim… Nothing more..
"and yes Islam teaches us that a woman shouldn't have to go out and work or slave that is the responsibility of her husband, she is there for the pleasure of her husband.."
There is a different between "Women is there for the pleasure of her husband" and "Women and her husband can have pleasure together"
All your arguments show you are a properly indoctrinated MUSLIM… While its not wrong to worship a god of your choice, you muslims dont allow anyone else to worship their own…
"why cant take care of the few?"
Why should non muslim population take care of the few even ? Are you people incapable of doing anything by yourself ? Its ok if you are mentally retarded, old, or have no parents. But Muslims are not just mentally retarded, old or orphaned…your population is multiplying and you must be able to take care of yourself ?
May I know why it isn't so ?
"Why should we allow Christians and other religions to practice their religion freely yet Muslims should be discriminated against.."
When did muslims ever allow it ? Everything from Tamerlagne's invasion on India, to the modern hijacks, the muslims requiring jizya in the form of Welfare…You have done everything in your hand to prohibit people of other religion ?
Thank you for clarifying…This page is not about Muslims…Its about 'Islam'…Its about what Islam does to its own followers and others..
Muslims just form a part of the victims set of Islam…There are others namely Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhist, Zoroastrians aka Parsi, Sikhs, Indonesians, Former Arabs who are Victims of Islam… Just don't think the world belongs only to Muslims…
Did he pay the money yet ?
"Our life, and our right to free speech are far more important that your beliefs. "
Lol if thats the case and u believe in freedom of speech so much why didnt u post all my comments? There are some u didnt even post…or are some ppl only entitled to freedom of speech while others are not? Ur actions and what u say conflict alot thats called hypocracy if ur not letting ppl express thr freedom of speech by not posting all the comments….
Ur going to delete all cuz the truth hurts….everyone is entitled to freedom of speech but in a good manner! Not disrespecting ppls religions and what ur doing is not "expressing" urself ur afflecting hate towards a certain group of ppl which is unacceptable…u dont believe in something that is completely up to u! But dont hate on others and make fake stories and lies about their religion thats very low of you…i use one or a 100 names thats not the point the point is what i wrote using them is the truth ur scared to face some ppls hobbies is jus hatting on ppl and it looks like thats one of yours i would hate to know someone like u that has so much hate towards other ppl just cuz of their race…and if i was to be scared of anyone it would be of ppl like u that spread hate rather then islam and muslims…why dont u go write about the thousands of women abuise in western countries the amounts of rapes and murdures and shootings and mafias that rob banks and kidnap girls or the man that kidnaped 3 ladies and kept them locked up for a decade raping and abuising thm? Cuz that is alot more then one or two "terrorist" attacks that ur generlizing a wholeeee religion to be bad cuz of one or 2 ppls bad actions….that is ignorance to the fulliest my friend…post what ever u want and delete what ever u want as long as ur reading
"-YOU WILL FIND THAT ISLAM IS A BEAUTIFUL RELIGION-". Yes going by the number of human body parts collected daily courtesy of your 'beautiful islam'.
This site is as fake as you are. Your comment has been posted and that means that you are a born and an incorrigible liar.
@ Zimmerman
‘ Ur not even following ur own rule this whole site is offensive to ppls religions and beliefs muslims are humen too and if u educate urself proberly and not pass judgment u will find that islam is a beautiful religion….”
There is a difference between being rude and insulting and saying something that people find offensive because of their own choice. Religions don’t need any respect.. If you are offended because your religion is criticized, get over it. It is human life, rights and dignity that have to be respected not their beliefs. Our life, and our right to free speech are far more important that your beliefs.
You posted 10 messages and each time you used a different username. I am going to delete all but this one. I know as a Muslim it is hard to be honest and you need to cheat, but in the blog I am more powerful than your bogus Allah and one of the rules here is that you don’t post with different username each time.
This site is all a fake and the lady that "dosnt" want to be a muslim any more and scared to tell her husband is a fake story written by sina ignorance to advocate more hate towards islam this whole site is BS cuz this sina guy is such a coward that he foesnt even post peoples comments loooooool what a fool tou are stop fooling people i wouldnt be supprised that half of those comments are wrotten by you or by your ignorant friends that you asked them to comment for you hahahahahhabha douch bag
"We have terms for commenting, please behave like a scholar. No vulgar words if you don't wanna get banned. If you find any comment offensive, go ahead and report it, we will look at it and take proper action. Thanks You."
Loooooool dude are u normal by any chance? Ur not even following ur own rule this whole site is offensive to ppls religions and beliefs muslims are humen too and if u educate urself proberly and not pass judgment u will find that islam is a beautiful religion…. i think u need to delete ur whole blog and go by ur rule of "anything that is offensive will be removed" and stop infesting ppl with ur ignorance but if thr are ppl tht like ur blog then u made a good group of ignorant friends like u which are vry little in the world…ur a sick racist guy tht need serious help! Take it from me and this is coming from a none muslim btw u rly need help….thr are the good and the bad ppl in any religion not jus islam u racist jerk! God help ur brain increase in proper knowledge u make me sick shame on u! U dont represent any kind of religion cuz no religion on this earth justifies the amount of hate u have towards any humen being or religion shame on u!
Btw can u tell me if islam is sooooo "bad" as u say why is it the number ONE growing religion in the WORLD? That is the reason that i myself is studying it right now and feom what im reading and leaning my growing more and more respect and love for it and im thinking of converting myself and YESS i am SINGLE and mot converting cuz of some man looool its called not being ignorant and educating urself about different things i have read about christianity, judaism, buddhism and more and the only religion that made sence to me is islam and showed me that women are so respected in it and have so much rights i see my muslim friends thr husbands treat them like princesses and so do their dads its so beautiful in all aspects of it…im very tempted to convert and ur sote and ur ignorance is helping me even more with my decision i thank u for that☺ i know ur not going to post my comments cus thats probably a weakness u have and thats why u set ur site like that to see what comments u like and which ones u dont like but the truth hurts so much that ur not willing to share other ppls point of views no matter what they were a person that believes in their points strongly is not scared to have any comments and makes it an open debate but since u hv the "you comment will be posted if its acceptable" type of thinking u will nvr be able to prove ur point to ppl this is just a jk that is sick and afflects hate towards other races ur just another racisit its very sad actually ….and as long as u read this i dont care of u post it or not but if u are brave enough to face different opinions in a world that jas freedom of speech them u would let ppl post thr comments and expeess thr points of views
About ppl converting to islam comment.. I just have to say NO women dont convert because of the muslim men they like i know tonz of converts that are SINGLE that have choosen islam as a new religion they want to follow and i asked them why they converted and they said "because islam is truly a beautiful religion if ppl actually took the timr and educate themself about it they would see how beautiful it is and they would say "it all makes sence to me i was lost before and didnt feel like i was on the right path and when i studied islam i felt very comfortable with it and it was just lovely" thts why thy convert they loved it and educated themself about it and i respect that wether im muslim or NOT…cuz not everyone is as ignorant and judges a religion because of one persons poor actions that has nothing to do with islam…thr are waaaaay more women abuise in western society i would know cuz im a social worker iv never had a muslim women come for help cuz her husband is abusing her they are actually all nonmuslims….thr are waaay more rapes and killings and shooting daily in the world and in universities and schools by non muslims and waaaay more…its sad how those are not labled as "terrorists" but as soon as one "muslim" person tht does something bad cuz hes a bad person is labled a s a "terrorist" on the spot… it has nothing to do with islam cuz islam does not justify violence what so ever terroriziom does not have a certain religion or faith and who ever says that is stupid and ignorant every single religion has its good and bad followes if im going to call all muslims terrorists for one persons stupid actions tht is only muslim by name then we are all just as guilty and maybe worse because thr are way more violent actions that non muslims do its redicilous how ppl judge a whole race of ppl for one persons bad actions all i no is that in islam if a person kills just one person its as if he killed all of humanity and islam does not justify it what so ever and that person is not a true muslim. just like a shooter that walks in a school and kills innocent kids and teachers like the conniticuite shooting (which was not a muslim) should we now say that all white ppl are terrorists cuz this stupid guy did that horriable thing? religion and the ppl that follow what ever religion should not be blamed for ppls bad actions but only ignorant ppl will say look this guy that did the shooting is cathlic or what ever why dont we just say everyone is a terrorist like him just cuz thy are from the same religion! Plzzzzz i cant stand all this ignorance god help u ppl
And the reason why god created the pubic hair or any hair on ur body and beacuse for reasons that u were obviously to ignorant to go and learn about hair needs to grow on your body to let out unwanted possions and dirt from your body that is unwanted by ur body and then you have to remove it… And this is not only shown in islam but scientifically proven if u dont believe in islam thts ur choice but respect ppls beliefs thrs other things that u can educate urself from called science
Ur just all a bunch of ignorant ppl stop judging ppls religions who cares if ur cathlioc. Jewish muslim or watever ppl should respect each others religious beliefs and islam teaches that from what i know and i read alot about islam it is a vry beautiful religion and means peace…and who ever is the owner of this website shame on u cuz no religion what so ever will justify the hatred towards anyother religion like the hatred tht ur showing! I never see muslims writing ignorant articles about jesus or ur religion its truly disgusting tht your writing about ppls beliefs in that ignorant manner ur truly showing ppl how shallow u are if u had one bit of religion in u no matter what it is u would know that critisizing and hatting on ppls religion is absoulutly unacceptable and shallow…i actually laughed when i read some of these ignorant comments because if u have studied islam as u say this would not be ur opinion on it…u clearly no nothing about islam or anyother religion cuz no religion wat so ever justifies the hate that u have towards other humen beings for simply tht they have different religion then u…shame on u i dont know what religion ur following cuz i am sure thrs no religion on this earth that has this much hate towards other ppl as a non Muslim i would love to convert to islam from the actions ignorant ppl like u… U should be ashamed of urself…hater!
It's funny how you guys only pin point a few aspects of islam. Islam is a religion that invites science to prove its existence and its realities. Islam believes in science, and is the only religion where God asks to challenge His existence.
The science of modern cosmology, observational and theoretical, clearly indicates that, at one point in time, the whole universe was nothing but a cloud of 'smoke' (i.e. an opaque highly dense and hot gaseous composition). This is one of the undisputed principles of standard modern cosmology. Scientists now can observe new stars forming out of the remnants of that 'smoke'. The illuminating stars we see at night were, just as was the whole universe, in that 'smoke' material. God said in the Quran:
Then He turned to the heavens when it was smoke…
[Noble Quran 41:11]
Because the earth and the heavens above (the sun, moon, stars, planets, galaxies, etc.) have been formed from this same 'smoke' we conclude that the earth and the heavens were one connected entity. Then out of this homogeneous 'smoke', they formed and separated from each other. God said in the Quran:
Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them?.. [Noble Quran 21:30]
Professor Alfred Kroner is one of the world's well-known geologists. He is a Professor of the Department of Geosciences, University of Mainz, Mainz, Germany. He said, "Thinking where Muhammad came from .. I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years with very complicated and advance technological methods that this is the case." (From 'This is the Truth' [video]). Also he said, "Somebody who did not know something about nuclear physics fourteen hundred years ago could not, I think, be in a position to find out from his own mind, for instance, that the earth and the heavens had the same origin."
More at http://www.scienceislam.com/quran_miracles.php
I-HATE-ISLAM
You forgot one thing to add ,billion dolor's investments for inventions of excelsiors (Viagra's) for bed ridden old Arabs,ha ha ha.
Sakat,
Splendid. To muhammadans, using dildos or bananas or cucumbers by women and carved pumpkins or mannequins by men to relieve sexual urge is perfectly permissible. There is no breed as weird as muhammadans. Where did they come from? They give billions to dubious scientists to discover or invent $cience in the quran when they should be paying psychiatrists to examine their brains.
@Momo ,
Since you didn't specify the 'base' of the numbers, here is a proof that 2X2 <> 4. Suppose I consider Base 3, then 2X2 = 11(Base 3).
Sakat,
Thanks mate. Just doing my tiny bit.
/Lol naked people in brazil beaches don't get raped/
Can you answer why they are not raped? Because no Mohammedan is lurking their ,it applies to both male/Female Muslim incests .Male dares but female masturbate in their panties , very easy.This is what i tried to convince that lady 'Guest' few day's back (as to why westerners are not incest)
I-HATE-ISLAM
/A coconut has more substance in it than the heads of your sheikhs talk-less of you./
Simply marvelous ,!!!'ROFALMAO'!!!
First read Stephen Hawking's classic ,'The Brief History of time" ,mentioning name of such great people will not make your IQ any better .
@Alia
You have proved me wrong baby,i thought all Muslims are waste oxygen's, but you are not ,if you wish ,you can give a trial to Vipassana meditation of Buddhism,don't think i am thrusting it .Once again hat's up to the good post (really eye opening for Muslim insects here).
Buddha didn't explained it theoretically but practically demonstrated it through meditation process called Vipassana meditation (means sustained body scanning if you do ,will come to know practically )Buddhism is based on practical and not on any crap belief .Premitive Islam is no match to Buddhism baby, take note.
Lol do you know new research that cell is made from lots of mysterious bacterias, each of them know each own tasks well for the sake of human. And how could ur budha explain that 😉
charcoal/narcotics,
What gibberish!!! The quran has nothing useful in it not even as toilet paper.
We are formed out of worms ,our body is formed out of countless cells and each cell is living entity.Each second countless cells taking birth and countless dies.This process continues till our death.This was first revealed by Buddha some 2600 years back ,before nearly 1200 year early to this mad Mohammed's birth.See how illiterate you Muslims are don't talk science you have no capacity..
Sakat,
Yes, Muhammad excelled in negative contributions and pedophilia was one of those.
Your are regularly raped by the incest inmates of your abode and that is legal isn't it .
He is number one in influencing pedophile in the world today,have some shame baby don't through it on road ,after all you are a woman and not shemale (i hope so).
shankar,
If the actress has converted she is exercising her fundamental right which is lacking in muhammadan societies.If that had been a muhammadan, there would be fear of a rajam justice. However, it is always being imagined that there are conversions to muhammadanism. One of such imaginary conversions was the of the late astronaut Neil Armstrong who, even after refuting the the false claim, was still held as a convert. Even devils convert to muhammadanism as did Muhammad's jinn. After that conversion, Muhammad became like his devil.
But their polio vaccine saves millions of life of Muslim children.
You are not qualified to teach me how to read a post. Every part of it can stand on its own. When commenting always bear that in mind.
I have already told you, that muhammadanism is based on fiction. Every quotation from its literature, must of course, be fiction. You now see that you believe in fiction mistakenly called religion.
charcoal/narcotics,
I have gotten accustomed to muhammadans hiding behind names calling to cover their deficiencies. However, such antics do not bother me. I will tell you what you must hear. You are the INFIDEL worshiping a dead conman long buried in the arid land of Medina.
*reads your fiction story* hm author namimah slave *gives $3* 🙂
Come to our majlis ta3lim 🙂
Lol you are disturbing.and you are infidel. And you are a liar. namimah slave 🙂
Not in my sect, namimah slave 🙂
Lol following actress
Read the next sentence, dont cut my message, namimah slave.
"BURQA IS FOR PROTECTING ARAB WOMEN FOR THE HEAT IN DESERT–". A good example of muhammadan scientific insanity.
Why are non desert dwelling muhammadan women, like some in my country, meant to wear the burqa if it is for protection against desert heat?
That is similar to Muhammad luring his grandson, Hussein, in his dream to Karballa where he was butchered with his family and household like locusts killed by aerial insecticide spraying. It is an invitation to disaster both physically and mentally as your sheikh is a pollutant.
There is no good muhammadan going by civilized norms. A good muhammadan follows the sunnah of Muhammad and there is nothing worse than that. The infidel, good or bad, does not disturb the muhammadan. It is the muhammadan who refuses to mind his/her business. You are a good example. This site was set up to expose the evil of muhammadanism but here you are poking your dirty nose into what does not concern you by defending that very evil. I cannot get into a muhammadan website. I am blocked. So who is interfering with other people's businesses?
Can you show me the original which differs from the one in circulation now? You claim that the Holy Bible has been corrupted. The onus is on you to place the "uncorrupted original" side by side with the 'corrupted' one so that the defect can be shown.
How come indian actress mamta kulkarni changed her religion to islam from hinduism 3 days ago?
Her husband vicky goswami also changed his religion.
You are a parasitic virus. Choose between the parasite and the virus which one is your father and which your mother.B):'(
Muhammad said he loved sex so much that he could never be satisfied with women. His follower wondered how "BETWEEN COPULATION AND PRAYER HE STILL HAD TIME TO GO AND KILL THE INFIDELS". Muhammadanism is pre-occupied with sex and killing. That is why every muhammadan follows in the footsteps of Muhammad. They simply cannot control their sexual urge; not even in paradise where they will enchant allah with their insatiable orgies. Given to seeing figures draped in black all the time like masquerades, the sight of a woman attired differently sets the fire burning uncontrollably between the thighs of a muhammadan male. Little wonder that rape is a hobby among them.
It is the cheapness of the muhammadan women that allows a man to pack and discharge them at will. There will always be more for the taking.
Nah, ur too shy to admit that ur talking about other sects to me. Which i clearly told that its not the right sect. But part of 72 sects. What do you want to argue about my sect? You have none.
You need those glasses to know that His Unholiness the Ayatollah Khomeini was the 20th century edition of the messenger of allah.
The darkness enveloping you euphemistically called 'muhammadanism' or in your parlance 'I-slam'.
charcoal/narcotics,
A muhamadan is a muhammadan and I can never have a muhammadan mother.
Baby woman are also lustful/incest .Psychos like Mohammed knew this better in 7th century .You know who are psychos,they who enter the boots of others and tries to know his/hers mind , to play his ugly game of cop and thug ,so that he can subjugate his opponents (including his slave women) , upon winning his ugly game( i feel Mohammed symbolizes this term in human history) .Your prophet is author of that ,want elaborations ,from me, ever ready to enhance its meaning to your satisfactions,give me a chance..
This is not the answer. This seems you are avoiding the bitter truth one side you are talking about universe but other side this is not my part. Although both are connected each other.
They arent in my sect. Burqa is a choice, not order.
charcoal/narcotics,
Being the most influential figure does not necessarily mean being the most important. On Dec. 27, 2009, The St Petersburg Times listed its most influential people of the last decade. It placed Osam Bin Ladan ahead of Barrack Obama. Did that make the former more important than the latter? MIT conducted a survey which was published by the MAIL ONLINE on March 2, 2013. It said:"JESUS CHRIST REMAINS THE MOST INFLUENTIAL FIGURE OVER 2000 YEARS AFTER HE WALKED THE EARTH, ACCORDING TO NEW RESEARCH. ACADEMICS USED DATA GATHERED FROM ONLINE ENCYCLOPEDIA WIKIPEDIA TO RANK FAMOUS FIGURES THROUGH HISTORY IN TERMS OF GLOBAL REACH-".
From findings by notable researchers Muhammad's place in history pales into insignificance. Violence, in which he excelled, is not a factor when considering positive contributions to human development.
charcaol/narcotics
Michael S. Hart assessed Muhammad as the most influential political figure based on two criteria. These were that Muhammad was a war monger and that he wrote the quran. It is good to see muhamadans admitting that Muhammad wrote their book and that he in fact was allah who he claimed authored the quran. He said:"THE QURAN THEREFORE CLOSELY REPRESENTS MUHAMMAD'S IDEAS AND TEACHINGS AND TO A CONSIDERABLE EXTENT HIS EXACT WORDS-". That was in 1976. In a later book he wrote:" THAT IS THE MAIN REASON WHY I HAVE CONCLUDED THAT MUHAMMAD –SHOULD BE RANKED LOWER THAN JESUS-".
charcoal/narcotics,
If you are not an incurable liar, can you produce the scientific evidence which shows that the "Jews population is small because their genes are cursed with deathly diseases"? Even the accursed quran which contains nothing useful does not say that. Muhammadan 'scientists' have pre-historic knowledge of science that is why they are always off the tangent. Presumably what you call "deathly diseases" are the causes why the Jews are millions of light years ahead of the muhammadans. SUCH " DEATHLY DISEASES" ARE FASCINATING.
Khomeini a dhal rafidhi. please borrow glasses and hearing aid i gave to chuck 🙂
If ur that smart, please heal stephen hawkings disease. And please make the dead people alive again 🙁
Chill, my dear. *makes you tea*
Which darkness? 🙂
If your mommy banned you to cross the road alone and no more candies, would you call her muhammadan? 🙁
Nah, dont quote anything without showing the exact original words first. no dajjal translation. go to majlis ta3lim. *pokes* dont be shy
Majlis ta3lim with real sheikh can. please attend 🙂
Before talking about the originality of other peoples holyscript with the translations, why didnt you question the originality of your own holyscripture? The translations have gone too far from the original bible, right. Could you show me, the very original ancient bible, without any single edit? 🙁
Yeah instead of talking about bad moslems, these infidels should mind bad infidels too, include themselves. If they say there arent many bad infidels, and moslems population are many, why cant take care of the few? Why interfere other peoples business. I s it so hard to handle ur own bad infidels? 🙁
Dear Narcole,
As per your thought "Burqa is for protecting arab women for the heat in desert, also to protect them for lustful eyes toward them. burqa isnt wajib. any moslemah are allowed not to wear burqa. and moslemas dont need to rob banks pfft" so why Islami Scholar and Talibani, Muzahideen and putative Islamic protector advocating the Burka In India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, France, Great Britain, America and every place while women who is believe in liberty and equality who deny but the lady who are fundamentalist they are supported that with male. One question to you male and Islamic Scholar say if you are in burqa there were no problem no one can see you and do wrong with you. This is the meaning of kidnapping of liberty of women male are the main culprit for such work if her mother or own sister is in normal dress why not they rape her that time his mind is in control but when the other are in normal only they think about sex, is it the main aim of life to do sex every time. And male is the main culprit then also wore them burqa because when they will be in burqa they will not see anything and if they are doing rape why not your Allah give a sura in quran like thieving to cut his *************. because punishment is for culprit not for victims. Think dear all of you what is it not against humanity who made woman in open jail where she is unable to joy her life due to fear of other male. What is not shameful for our society one side our sister is beaten by her husband that time we feel this is wrong but when we beat our wife that time it is our right and she has not right to say why are you beating me because there is a invisible lock that is on her mouth and not protect herself from this evil custom. Life is for living not for tyranny on others.
Lol naked people in brazil beaches dont get raped. rape means illegal sex by force. those naked infidels are so cheap, no need force. they like illegal sex.
Did you ever think that those dhallin 'moslems' actually not real moslems, but hypocrites like lucy, who told people around her that shes moslem, but in fact shes not? And when she does dhal or fasiq actions, people will blame her as moslem? Did you ever think that those who wear moslem dress actually disguising infidels in fitnah namimah mission?
Majlis ta3lim, again 😉
Boku haram are nigerians. how about you curse nigerians too? its clearly written on their id cards 😉
And you cant deny that our prophets position as NO.1 for the greatest person in the world with positive influence. Non moslems scholars gave that award 😉 Einstein and jesus positions still below him 🙂
Jews population is small cos their genes cursed with deathly diseases. Quran and science explained that.
Do i know you my dear? o.0
Do you have something more decent to tell you are a good infidel?
narcole1919721,
When will a muhammadan ever be original in his/her thinking? You should be tired of this JEW cliche. Instead of using your brain to plot evil against humanity, emulate the Jews and do positive things. The Jews account for only 0.2% of the world's population but have cornered 23% of the Nobel Prizes. They invented the cell phone for ease of communication. But the muhammadans use it to kill. LEAVE THE JEWS ALONE FOR THEY ARE NOT AS UNPRODUCTIVE AS YOU MUHAMMADANS.
narcole1919721,
All of you are too empty headed to know what it means to teach. A coconut has more substance in it than the heads of your sheikhs talk-less of you. There is nothing to show that any form of basic home training was ever imparted to you and you become more pathetic when your frustration of being in your fastidious 20s, without any hope, is added to it. B)o.0
Because we attend majlis ta3lim with real sheikhs, and you dont. thats why 🙂
Teachers are for teaching stupid persons 😉 hes here to teach you 🙂
Guest,
At the University of Ibadan, the muhammadans built their mosque about 25 yrs after the Christians had built their Chapel. The muhammadans soon after agitated against the cross and the muhammadan minister of education ordered it removed. The Vice Chancellor refused and asked to be sacked instead. A compromise was struck to screen the cross from the mosque. The Christians never complained about the polluting noise of the azzan. The same minister ordered for for the killing of pigs and the closure of the piggery at Queens College, Lagos because muhammadans do not touch the carcases of pigs which were meant for biological experiments. They could have used other animals. In federal establishments public funds are spent on the erection of mosques without a corresponding expenditure on Churches. I pay my tax. The list is endless.
Fakhrunnisa22,
Even if some women walk about exposing themselves, are the muhammadans the only men around? Why can't they control their raging libido? Why do other men not resort to rape because they find women half naked? Non muhammdan men and women go to swim in the beach without anyone being raped. It means some cultures are more civilized than others. On God being 3, I don't know where you got such idea from. I am a Christian and we believe in one GOD who has 3 attributes. It is the muhammadans who believe in many gods that is why allah uses such pronouns as 'we', 'us', 'ours' etc while talking about itself. There are over 1,500 of such references in the quran. Jesus as the "WORD AND SPIRIT OF GOD" has always been and will forever be. How about man existing as one entity but having body, spirit and soul. Does that mean 3 people? Muhammad was confused about the Trinity. That was why he could not explain the Doctrine. So who is stupid?
Fakhrunnisa22,
Where are muhammadans discriminated against? As far as I know they even have more protection in the West than Christians. It is because of muhammadans that many countries now have anti hate speech laws. With that even to quote the quran in support of an argument against muhammadanism is "hate speech" and criminal. Show me a comparable situation in the muhammadan countries.
How naive … you wanted to pass exam just by performing prayer? My friend
also an IT engineer who has travelled the world and he still prays a lot being grateful to Allah who has blessed him with all the good things in life.
Please take note of the following maxim: "Allah created clay, and we human create ceramics." Can you make ceramics just by praying five times a day? You have to work hard and leave the final result to Allah (tawakkal.)"
Lol … This is really a weird site, yet funny and entertaining … sometimes it also becomes scary — like that sakat guy who has no problem with incest … he made me shiver … Na'udzubillahi min dzaalik.
@Guest,
Did you folow my conversation with Husky about the plight of Ahamaddiyas in Indonesia and his/her esteemed opinion about it?
Share with us your experience being imposed by Muslims to do something you don’t like. What is your religion?
Look Khalid, Islam came first, then Ali Sina came.
this means that, when it is challenged, it is Islam, by defense of Muslims, that first must be proven to be true and logic and trustworthy. Ali Sina only challenges that and says it is not.
So why do you think Islam is true and logical and trustworthy in the first place? Why do you believe, accept and trust Mohammed and not Ali Sina? Please use same standards in response to both.
Khalid,
If Ali Sina's ideas are not 'logic" and will be trusted by a few stupids, why did you bother to answer? Responding means that you are not comfortable. Something is troubling you.
Dear Momo, Narcole and all Islamic defender guy (Not Muslims) "This site belongs to a jew ckufer who has no brains or balls.as always the cakes always wana b anon and speak **** cos they all too afraid.Tell them all to give us their area code and let us visit them.then when **** happens they want to cry." Listen the peace voice of Islam how peaceful from the throat of peaceful boy.
Lololol me think the same x'D
"please if you do not understand Islam then don't comment and judge>>"
You don't understand; what you think is our and only our understanding of Islam is in reality that which we observed other Muslims to understand of Islam as well! Including very influential Islamic Scholars. We have Memri TV and Robert Spencer (their is tons of proof on their websites)
and many others who not only study Islam well, but also monitor and show us that it is Muslims themselves who have the interpretation and practice of Islam that you abhor when we merely report it.
But remember, we are as much as you against such interpretation and practice of Islam, but it is your fellow Muslims who propagate what you think is our wrong interpretation of Islam.
Only the burka is prohibited, with that you can't see someones face. Bankrobbers have used burka's to commit crime.
The headscarf is no problem in the West. But frankly we think it is outrageous that in Iran and Saudi Arabia headscarf's and Islamic dress code is forced on women, including those who don't want to wear them, who may not even be Muslima's. And it is more subtly forced on women elsewhere among Muslims too, like when parents and community force and press Muslima's to wear them (OK, not all, but plenty).
We are against Islam, not Muslims. We never judge all Muslims for the actions of a few Muslims; that is a misrepresentation by you of us.
Christianity get plenty criticism as well, but we think the influence of Islam on bad behavior of Muslims against unbelievers and Muslims both is in part due to teaching-influence of Islam while Christian violent behavior is not due to Christian teaching-influence.
Often when Muslims commit violent acts, they themselves say it is because of the influence of Islam. The woolwich killer is a good example of that. He talked about Sura's of the Quran as reasons for killing the British soldier.
How come you are so sure that your version of Islam is the right one and not his?
Fakhrunnisa22,
What you call "the wrong doings of 1 or 2 Muslims" is actually the norm. Violence was what Muhammad instituted and he urged his followers to build on that. Why is it that only muhammadans are the ones whose "children and women" are molested which should make others ask why the muhammadans are violent? The truth, however, is different. It is the muhammadans who are the perpetrators of evil. In your frenzy to shield muhammadanism, you completely ignore all the statistics on rape and other forms of molestations by muhammadans in Western countries which have given them refuge. Let one not even talk about what they do in majority muhammadan countries.
Muhammadans are the oppressors. Bring out evidence of where they are oppressed.
Fakhrun-nisa,
You have admitted being a psycho, there is no more to be said. You are a self confessed sick character. How can you know how to pray or what to pray for? Every muhammadan is in darkness. So are you.
Fakhrun-nisa,
There will be no problem if only you kept your "piety" and "purity" to yourselves. Why would another woman be forced to wear the hijab or be arrested by the religious police in Iran or Saudi if there is no force behind it? You may love whoever you choose to. But do not impose that on me which is what muhammadans do.
Muhammadans have a worse history of being psycho. It goes back to Muhammad himself and all those who came after him. Muhammad's version has been given the psychedelic description :PROPHET.
Fakhrun-nisa,
In what way are you better than a pork eater?
"–SO WHY SHOULD WE CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY-". You do not see why there should be contributions to make the society better. That explains why you muhammadans are hell bent on destroying the world. What sane person would believe that a creature hiding in a hole and starved of oxygen in Iran, calling itself the mahdi, is capable of thinking straight? Muhammadans are awaiting its emergence so that they will begin their war of annihilation. GROSS INSANITY.
A woman has the same brain development as a man and God did not create her a sub human. That she exercises her mental prowess does not stop the husband enjoying her. Those whose brains have stopped to develop see women as mere objects. THEY ARE NOT.
Alia,
Simply beautiful. Thumps up.
Fakhrunnisa22,
"BUT EVEN IN THE BIBLE JESUS–CLEARLY SAYS "FOLLOW THE PROPHET THAT COMES AFTER ME" THERE WAS NO OTHER PROPHET EXCEPT MUHAMMAD–"'.
Which bible are you referring to, for that statement is not in my Bible? The statement further exposes Muhammad's ignorance of the Holy Scriptures. In Acts of the Apostles mention is made of prophets, including women, who served during the time of the Apostles after the Lord Jesus had ascended to heaven. Assuming, but without conceding, that Muhammad was a prophet, he could, therefore, not have been the one next to JESUS. However, MUHAMMAD WAS NOT A PROPHET OF ALMIGHTY GOD. He was and remains a notorious conman.
It is you muhammadans who do not allow others to follow the religion of their choice. Nobody disturbs you in whatever you choose to worship. You are to leave others alone.
Once again i salute you Mr Ali Sina for opening my eye to this crap ideology called Islam and that characterless ,debouch ,psycho-prophet (prophet of the doom) Mohammed.I bade you bye,i don't have much time to spare here on this nice site,sorry.
I have done all sorts of prayer before exams and ,one day one of my good friend said ,dear why can't you put faith on your ability instead of depending on an unseen Allah and your prophet .I clearly saw in her face some sort of fear before giving this advice to me,(she thought i would get violent for making such remarks against my faith),but i picked her kind advice to my heart and,that day on wards i felt ,i do not need any unseen god for my progress or should not waste my time for praying ,which i felt useless exercise.That was my best judgment of the life ,i begged distinction with gold medal in my academic carrier.Now i am a well settled software techie,almost all part of the globe i have ventured .It was my hard work ,to which i salute from the bottom of my heart.But Ali the rat made me dig deep into Islam ,my religion.I was shocked to see the whole bio-data of this thug-Mohammed.I heartily thanks you Mr Ali for opening my eye,s to this hard reality.
Dear Fakhrun-Nisha,
Were you that time because your prophet invited you to have the delicious sweets and joy to see the marriage of child baby.
How will you show these are false means your Hadith are wrong, and do you know about how many types of Kufr there are 10 kufr and you are also making such kufr.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18:
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."
Sahih Bukhari vol. 7, 65:
"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the
prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""
Sahih Bukhari vol. 7, 88:
"Narrated Urwa: "The prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).""
Sahih Bukhari vol. 5, 234 :
"Narrated Aisha: The prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Harith Kharzraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's messenger came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age." yes every child born without religion but it is society and parents who forcefully pushed them in religious customs. You make a tour of all Muslims Country with a same religion all have but their culture and rituals has been changed you will never found all things is going same. Why because from the ancient time these cultures and tradition make a root in that society and no one is remove them. Let us take example from Iran and Malaysia & Indonesia, Nawroz is celebrated in Iran but not in Malaysia & Indonesia while all these countries are Muslims country. So you can justify that we are not related to religion but religion is related to us. why? because in ancient time there was science not developed and man can't think more so he give a story and each society and religion contain a different story why because all people thinking is different and they made a different story. Think again what religion and religious activity gave you till today. Answer will come out nothing in constructive more destructive and painful. We be a killer, rapist, and all other inhumanity work done by us our society due to religion.
Muslims are expert in wasting time ,here they live on others hard work ,their work is to create insecurity in the society all the time or doing prayer whole day for after life pleasures, worst then animals. That thug died doing all psychic exercises during his life time ,but his Ghost is still hounding whole humanity.
Dear Momo,
Ali Never told that 2X2 is not equal to 4, but if your Quran is divine and really Allah made all things then you prove this sun is setting in murky water and 18:86 Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."
18:90 Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had provided no covering protection against the sun.
You prove all these sura is right and not contradiction I'll return back Islam and Publically apologizing for Insulting Islam and Muhammad.
Can you deny his marriage to the 6 year old kid when he was 52 .Will you deny the hadit where all his acts are narrated by Aisha herself .I too a woman following that thug for long ,but not now .He is a characterless person a criminal and not a Prophet .If you want to close your eyes to his ugly attitudes ,it is your business but don't try to fool me.I have already left him Sina is new Prophet for me and not that pedophile.
You people are really sick and do not know what you talking about, but never mind we so called psychos will pray for you that you see the light, coz clearly right now you are all in darkness blinded by your own crap
We are not oppressed in anyway, we wear our hijab because we want to not because we are forced to and if we want to do it for ourselves and Allah who are you to judge??? Mind your own business and live your own life, stop spreading your ignorance and stupidity nobody cares!! U left Islam that is ur own sin, stop embarrassing yourself.. I love the prophet Muhammed (s.a.w) and I love my islam and Allah, if you don't that is your problem. But leave us to practice our religion and stop judging.. Btw for your info the reason why muslims marry more than one woman despite the age is to give them a life and to teach them islam, something no non muslim will do.. AND NON MUSLIMS ALSO RAPE AND KILL!!!! You brainless psycho
Whatever we have in this world and the society or status you are living up to is temporary, we are here preparing for the hereafter.. When you die you don't take any of these worldly things with you so why should we contribute to society?? Is society and this world your God? You don't even know that Allah is the same God that Jews and Christians pray to??? Everyone gets obese not only the Muslims, in fact you pork eating vultures are the ones that are most obese and yes Islam teaches us that a woman shouldn't have to go out and work or slave that is the responsibility of her husband, she is there for the pleasure of her husband..
Do you know why he married that 6 year old? Were you there? Do you know whether he had sexual intercourse with that 6 year old? Were you there to see the prophet raping and killing? Or is it hypocrites like yourself that spreads falsehood about Islam just because you do not have the brain to understand it? And what are you talking about his followers not contributing anything to society??? What are you Christians or non Muslims doing? What because you people have everything on this world because you have no religion you think your religion is the right thing?? Well WOMAN if you were really such a Muslim you would know that Islam teaches us the non believers will have everything in this world but in the hereafter there will be nothing for you people..
The Prophet marries 6 year kid at the age of 52 ,even then he do not become pedophile why? ;he force his step son to divorce his wife and marries her and rapes ;he kills husband,father ,uncle ,children and the whole clan of that poor girl Saffiya and rapes her ,His Allah gives 72 virgins to his male follower but not to female one.His follower do not contribute anything to the society but always in prepare for destroying and looting others property .Their Woman are only sex items and they enjoy it and ,will never feel of doing any productive thing,apart from engaged in ugly sex , they become obese very young, their body shape look like elephants leg,because it is poor animals curse (halal meat eating ). I threw this pseudo-prophet Mohammed in the dust bin and left his Islam forever for my better future ,Oh lady you have done the right thing all these Muslim men are psychos like their Prophet .
But even in the bible Jesus/ Esa(a.s) clearly says " Follow the prophet that comes after me" There was no other prophet except Muhammad (s.a.w). So please in future before you put up any more posts about Islam why don't you live your life and follow the religion that you feel is right and leave us Muslims to follow our Islam.. Because hypocrites and Kuffars like you create doubts in the minds of other muslims and lead them astray..
Yet the non muslims that walk around exposing their bodies wonder why men molest and rape them, maybe because they are being enticed. Allah is the same God as any other God.. You do not find 10 different Gods, the only difference is we do not believe in the Father, the son and the holy spirit.. Its common sense!!!! God is one so how did he become 3? Jesus the son of God? Who did God sleep with to have a son when he created us all yet Mary was a virgin??? Now who is stupid and ignorant, please if you do not understand Islam then don't comment and judge>> As for the lady that wrote the very first post, do your husband the favour and leave him.. Let him rather find a wife that understands and practices Islam because she believes in it and does it for the pleasure of Allah instead of wasting his time living with a hypocrite like yourself.. No one is forcing you to be a muslim but Islam is a very beautiful religion and we do not need people like you calling it "stupid". From amongst us only selected ones have been chosen to be a part of the Muslim Ummah the rest are ignorant and will be blinded, on the day of judgment we can all stand and see which religion is the right one..
Why should we allow Christians and other religions to practice their religion freely yet Muslims should be discriminated against.. if our woman want to wear hijab because we believe in covering our bodies and beauty for the pleasure of our husbands and God then why should it be a problem to anyone else..
I do not like getting involved in politics about religion but some people here are very ignorant!!!! Don't judge every Muslim and Islam because of the wrong doings of 1 or 2 Muslims, stop being so judgmental and pointing fingers when in fact Christianity and every other religion has their faults.. Yes look at the Muslims bombing and killing people, did u ever ask urself why?? do they do it for fun or are u also looking at how Muslim woman and children are abused by non-Muslims and how Muslim people are oppressed..
Ali Sina offers $50,000 reward to anyone who can prove him wrong.
So funny and coward. …
If he really speaks the truth and ready to maintain the truth, why only offer $50.000? why not $5000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000? If he's true, he will never be wrong.
this means that he's afraid that if he is really right or not. He's still doubt about his simple logic
And this means that his truth can only be valued $50.000.
I offer you $50000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000, if you can prove that 2 x 2 is not 4.
Anyone?
Bother Hassan Allah is means God and this God has been rendered helpless by fools who want to propogate islam for their own benefits. You admit it or not God meaning Allah, Iswara or Bhagwan will always be over and above those retarded fools which mostly consists of muslims but not limited to any other religion also.
If she is in the USA, she can find help to escape islam. I'd do everything I could to help her, if she lived in this area.
this is all what this site mad it lolz ALI SSINA u made these stories and then answer it back ahahahahah shame on you you think your ideas are logic no just a few stupids will trust you thats all.
Khliad
I don't understand. In Islam, do men have to remove pubic hair also, or only women?
If it is only women who remove pubic hair, it is only men who will have these parasites….
7157. Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (i.e.Muhammad SAW) whom they find written with them in the Taurât and the Injeel (Gospel) (John xiv, 16), – he commands them for Al-Ma'rûf (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm has ordained); and forbids them from Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief, polytheism of all kinds, and all that Islâm has forbidden); he allows them as lawful At-Taiyibât [(i.e. all good and lawful) as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons, foods, etc.], and prohibits them as unlawful Al-Khabâ'ith (i.e. all evil and unlawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons, foods, etc.), he releases them from their heavy burdens (of Allâh's Covenant), and from the fetters (bindings) that were upon them. So those who believe in him (Muhammad SAW), honour him, help him, and follow the light (the Qur'ân) which has been sent down with him, it is they who will be successful.
And verily, you (O Muhammad )
are on an exalted (standard of)
character.) [68:4]
AND by the Mercy of Allah, you
dealt with them gently. And had
you been severe and harsh-hearted,
they would have broken away from
about you.) [3:159]
and We have sent you (O
Muhammad ) not but as a mercy
for the worlds.) [21: 107]
“O mankind! We created you from a single (pair)
of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye
may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the
most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most
righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted
(with all things).” (Qur'an 49:13)
“The Arab has no superiority over the non-Arab
or the non-Arab over the Arab; the white over the black or the black
over the white except in the matter of God-consciousness.” (Tabari)
Where slaves are mentioned, the Holy Qur'an remarked that
“some amongst you proceed from others.”(Qur'an:4:25).
The Prophet commanded: “They are your brothers and relatives!
Let each one provide for the brother under him with the food that he
himself eats and with the clothes that he himself wears. Place not
upon them any task that is overbearing for them. If you do assign
them a difficult task, you must help them in its execution.” (Bukhari,
Muslim)
“Serve Allah, and join not any partners with Him; and do good
– to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are of
kin, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by your side, the
way-farer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: for
Allah loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious.”(Qur'an 4:36)
“If anyone kills a slave, we
shall kill him. If anyone maims a slave, we shall maim him as well. If
anyone castrates his slave, we shall castrate him.”(Muslim, AbuDawood)
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The posts must be yours. People don’t read your long copy-pastes. Don’t you see you don’t get any replies? These posts do nothing other than clog this site with spams. Now if you can interact with others and discuss the issues, you are most welcome to post here. You can quote short passages to back your claim. Short means a couple of sentences or a paragraph. But I will delete all your long copy pastes because they are of no value to this site and do not contribute to the discussions. I am sure you don’t read them either.
brother sinna
my last post [u deleted ] contained quranic law such that Islam deny the forceful conversion & according Islamic law every human has rights to choose their religion,a lie letter either created by sinna or some people who don't know .000000001% of islam …………………..my post is related to subject ……………then what the requirement of delete ?
freedom of speech is the right of human,whether it own comment /copy paste…….two thing we must consider 1) it related to the subject 2) it not contained the bad word ………..
plz give the chance people to think about different subject………………………………..u deleted lot of my past post[ faithfreedom],it include both personal comment /copy paste ………………….
one question is personal comments……………….too……………..prohibited from………..muslim?
SoP, look what native muslims (soon former muslims) do, against islam and shariah? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed… (Tunisia) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed… (Egypt)
I delete all your copy pastes. This forum is for discussion and not for copy paste.
No we are not scare to face Muslim for debate. We are only scared to meet them in person. Muslims have a habit of killing those who criticize Islam. But we are ready for debate. Why don’t you invite a famous scholar of Islam to face me? They don’t come. Many have tried and the only response they get is that I am not worth their time. Meanwhile I am leading thousands of Muslims out of Islam. The mullahs particularly are paid to defend Islam and the don’t do it. Stop paying them until they face me in a debate.
keep your religion to yourself!
Bro, Shabeer these non-believers are scared to face the true Muslims like us. They can make fool only ignorant people.
who & why delete my post?
it indicate that anti Islamic team has not confidence with their claim ,they r declare their WEAKNESS by deleting Muslim post instead of positive way of debate……………….WHY THIS MUCH WORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????? MR.SINNA & TEAM…………………………..? GIVE THE PEOPLE TO READ OUR POST/DEBATE WITH US,,,,,,,,,,,,,,PLZ GIVE ME THE RIGHTS OF POST/ SPEECH…………PLZ……PLZ………….
Lucy,
I agree that the pubic hair is a good place for parasites, it also collects dirt. But if the religion of Islam ordered to remove that hair, why did their god created it in the first place? of course I have an answer for that, but they will never like it. If I say the human being was covered with hair all over some millions of years ago, then he began to evolve gradually, they will either laugh at me or curse me.
As for your problem with faith, unfortunately there are many women who convert to Islam just because
of their love to the Muslim man, and these women never thought about the potential problems of the
future, or they actually have faith in that religion when they convert, but then they start to discover
it's shortcomings. Now they want to withdraw, but it will not be that easy. In my opnion, it is better
to tell your husband frankly how you feel, because the longer it takes, the worst and the more
difficult the situation will be.
'My point is that you should not be too close to them. Be kind to them, but always keep your distance.'
So I can still talk with some muslim artists I know.
I like their arts. On the other hand, I avoid to give them too much confidence. I mean, if they have doubts about their art, I give them suggestions and I praise their art I find particular inspiring. But I don't try to become their friend.
This has made me understood that, without islam, they are people with dreams like everybody.
THOSE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN 7 AD WERE MOST UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE THEY SAW THE DEVIL HIMSELF. MUHAMMAD SAID HE HAD A DEVIL WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM WITH HIM. HE WAS HALF HUMAN BEFORE BUT AFTER THE CONVERSION HE BECAME WORSE THAN HIS OWN DEVIL, EVER SINCE, THE WORLD HAS BEEN DEPRIVED OF PEACE. SAFIYYA OF KHAYYABAR WAS A GREATER PROPHET THAN MUHAMMAD FOR SHE DID WHAT HE COULD NOT DO-SENDING HIM TO HELL TO BE WITH HIS DEVIL. MAY HER SOUL REST IN PERFECT PEACE WHILE HE ROASTS IN THE OVEN OF HELL.
I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING MORE STUPID. WHAT RIGHT DID YOUR PROPHETS HAVE TO ENSLAVE OTHERS? IF ALL PROPHETS WERE "THE BEST OF CREATIONS" WHO HAD THE PREROGATIVE TO KEEP SLAVES, HOW COME JESUS, WHOM YOU CALL A PROPHET, NEVER HAD ANY SLAVES? HOW INSANE OF YOU TO JUSTIFY SUCH CRUELTY!
A true prophet wants to set people free. Slavery is the antithesis of freedom. The greatest freedom we have is the freedom of thought. If one is not allowed to think, to doubt and to question one loses all his freedom. Without it we are no longer human. No true prophet will want us to lose our humanity and give up on the very thing that distinguishes us from animals. This alone is evidence that Muhammad was not a true prophet. Buddha was a true prophet. He never asked his disciples to give up thinking, doubting and questioning. He said doubt everything and find your own light. I am also a true prophet. My message to you is don’t follow anyone, but be a prophet to yourself.
You have gone beyond following. You have made yourself a slave. I would like to set you free. Your slavery of mind is even worse than any chain and fetters. Man’s dignity is in his freedom of thought. You have given it up. No true prophet will ask you to give up your freedom, your dignity, your rational thinking and the very thing that makes you a human. A true prophet will set you free. A false prophet will enslave you. Ye shall recognize them by their fruits.
Yes ,this is what that !!! well done.
Ha,ha,ha ,i am happy to explain this valid question my friend .Before i begin to address your query ,i want to confirm the meaning of the term "Slave " from your own view point .Again i think ,those things which we can control them as according to our wish are our slaves,and those whose control is not in our hand is not our slave, this is what the meaning of the term "Slave " as far as me is concerned .Rest is depend on your response OK.
At high level of divinity, unity of existence or Wahadat Ul Wazood is there. Difference between believer, The God, the guide, the messenger and the prophet is eliminated. As you yourself are using English name and i am addressing you in Arabic, so brother Adbu Rasul, Momin, Allah, Murshid, Nabi /Rasul and Paigambar all are seen as on unit.
The articles in this website regarding the errancies and supposed miracles in Quran do just that …
just for your information…here is the link.
http://alisina.org/blog/category/quran/
@saket
You explained nothing except abusing me. How in your higher truths prophet can not have slaves?
Logic requires two things for formation of opinion,they are ,one the viewer and ,second the viewed . These two things exist in this mundane world,so there is plenty of scope for logic and illogic to play their part of game.However when it comes to divinity ,it has got no duality hence the term "Logic" looses its existence in the realm of "Divinity" ,this stupid guy don't know these supreme realities.It is not his fault after all, he is slave of illiterate master .When the master is incapable of understanding these higher truths, how can be expected the same from the servant ha,ha,ha…..
Brother Abdu Rasul! does Divine needs logic? is not logic itself based upon illogical axioms? Divine things deal with something paranormal, do you have experience of that ? Just by reading ? How to differentiate between supernatural acts of Allah and Iblis ? Tell me truthfully that are you free from the whispers of Iblis? Just put some light on these issues please for the sake of Salafism .
//How can you comapare divine logics with human logics?//
What are divine logics? Please give some examples. Ohh you have already given one "Prophet (PBUH) kept the slaves". How do we know this was divine?
Yes but he was barbarian like Mohammed and, this is an art to put fear in the hearts of the opponent during war.I salute him ,this is a basic quality of a commander,he said he is war lord till the fag end of his life and not a prophet.He fought from the front unlike Mohammed hiding under the bush with many body guards,ha,ha,ha.Chengege Khan is my Hero ,not Alexander.He never claimed he is saint ,savior or miracle man ,this is sign of hypocrites suitable to Mohammed .Above all Chengage Khan used to give prior information to his opponents about his attack ,this is a quality of a brave man,but not this Mohammed ,because this man was hypocrite ha,ha,ha. I am extremely sorry to compare this MAD MOHAMMED to that great Chengage Khan ,pardon me.
There is no such thing as divine logic. All we are giving is human logic and that is the measure we must judge things by. Assuming there is a God he will never punish us for not using something he never gave us in the first place. Based on our human logic everything Muhammad did was evil. We would put a man like him in jail or hang him for his crimes. Then he said he is the perfect human and people should emulate him. So Muslims perpetuate his crimes, while thinking they are being pious because Muhammad did it and Muhammad as the perfect man.
You’ll cry victim if anyone wants to do the same things to you Muhammad did to others. Why you find it hard to swallow if someone raids your home kills you and enslaves your wife and children and rapes them? Will you ever believe if he says he is a perfect man and a messenger of God? Of course you won’t but you believe Muhammad even though he had not evidence for his claim. If these actions are divine why they bother you if they are done to you?
There is a difference between divine and evil. Only a fool cannot see that difference. One journalist once seeing Mother Teresa attending to the wounds of a leper said, he would not do that work even for a million dollars. Mother Teresa replied, neither would she. Then she said that she does that for she sees in that leper the face of God.
Now that is something hard to understand. It is a kind of wisdom above ordinary wisdom. But it uplifts us. It humbles us. It elevates our soul. You can call that divine wisdom, something ordinary people can’t understand, but no one can object to it and a noble soul like Mother Teresa and millions of others like her do it. This superior wisdom has to do with service to humanity and love for others. The recipients are always enriched, never abused, discriminated against, violated, tortured and killed.
How can you say raiding, raping, enslaving and doing everything a thug would do, is divine wisdom? You think you will go to paradise by following a criminal? You are deluded my friend. If there is a hell you and all your fellow co-religionists will be sent there without questioning. You will find there your prophet in the lowest pit of it.
I am the one who will save you from hell not that criminal you worship. He is in hell himself already. He can’t save you.
@Ali Sina
How can you comapare divine logics with human logics? Prophet (PBUH) kept the slaves it was divine logic, we human can not understand this. Only Allah knows the best. Prophet every deed was divine.
Pakistand & Afgnistaan can also give many fake names and claim they were Muslim scientist born in their country and were followers of prophet and they were the behind Einstein and Newton. Islam is based on lies.
ali sina, can u please publish a article reputing the following claims given by a muslim to me
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Islamic_…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_medicine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_science
Only prophets are allowed to have slaves because they are the best creation of Allah?
I something wonder whether there is any brain left in Muslims? If someone is the best creation shouldn’t he act in the best way? How can one who behave like a thug, raids innocent people, butchers unarmed and unprepared men, then takes their women and children, rapes them and sells them as slave be the best creation? Is there any limit to Muslims’ stupidity?
I say Muslims are not human. Read what this Slave is saying if you don’t believe me. He is not an exception. All of them say the the same thing. Show me one Muslim who condemns the despicable crimes of Muhammad. Not one! All of them approve that man’s evil deeds, justify them and call him the best of creation and the best example to follow. That explains why these people are so evil, so vile and so despicable – the filth of humanity.
Anyone who approves the crimes perpetrated by Muhammad cannot be called human.
Chengage Khan was not Muslim. Did you know !!
Chengage Khan was not last prophet. He never declared him self prophet. Only prophet had rights to keep the slaves because they were the best creation of Allah.
(For the Males) is in bracket so Malaiki also do circumcision of ladies. When there will be no other religion but Islam, half of Muslim world population may have to sacrifice their life to sort this issue about weather this be done to women or not. Interesting thing will be that Waring factions will be male only and female may not have any say at all. So before this thing comes, kindly brother slave of prophet(i am not writing PBUH else, people may think that i am saying it for you) and brother Shabbir, how will you resolve the issue of female circumcision ?
Thank you for giving the full story. I had got almost everything wrong except the moral of the story.
ROFALMAO!!!!,ha,ha,ha.
10th century Mongolians where, very much fortunate to see Chengage Khan and dine with him ha,ha,ha …..ROFALMAO
And the soil contained billions of bad bacteria. No wonder our idiot, Shabeer said it is dangerous for pubic hair.
There are no mad followers of Ali Sina but they all are free thinkers, like me.
There are only mad followers of yr profiteer who are crazy enough to do suicide-bombing, killing among themselves in sectarian violence, killing the apostates, Jews n Christians, beating their wives, honor killing and many other evil deeds. You are being brain-washed so much so that yr mindset is stuck in the 7th century sands of Arabia.
As you claim to be slave of prophet and you said that people from 7th Century were slave of prophet, does it implies that you are from 7th Century ? There were Arabs who hated him. There were non Arabs companion of him also. Does seeing any mortal matters or does being close to eternal immortal matters ? Does Allah has any restriction, that Allah could not reveal self to any human now ? What prophet did, which lead him to see Allah ? Is it not Sunnat fro all momins to do the same and see the Allah ?
so if a Muslim rapes or murder, he/she still has a chance of getting forgiven by Allah SWT. Some time only in temporary hell but, then sent to perpetual paradise. Any way one question, does Allah SWT has any bounding of "him", that "he" has to stay committed to the promises "he" made ? If Allah SWT is Lam Yalid Wa Lam Yulad(is not born nor can give birth), how can terms like he or she could be used for Allah SWT ? is Allah SWT male ? what is the gender of Allah SWT ? If Allah can do what Allah Wishes, what prevent hims from cancelling the Holy Kuran or say Holy Bible or Say Holy Vedas or Holy Books of Sikhs or Buddhists ? Are there any laws which bound Allah ? or can the laws made by Allah capable to bound Allah ? Brother Slave of prophet (Abdu Rasul) and Brother Shabbir, what are your respective answers? If there is a difference in them, how will you resolve that difference ?
@One God
Allah will do he he wish. Allah promised us in holy Quran he can forgive any greater sin but not the non-belief in prophet (PBUH) & in him.
@Mad followers of Ali Sina
it is easy to say Say people of Arab in 7th Century were ignorant/backward / superstitious. Anyone can say anything, we can not hold the mouth. But it would be batter if you analyse before throwing garbage from your mouth. People of Arab born in 7th century were most fortunate people of the world. Because they got chance to see the prophet from their own eyes. They watched miracle of prophet from their naked eyes. And people who used to live with prophet and engaged in service of prophet were most fortunate people. It is special mercy of Allah that people got chance to be slave of final prophet.
spelling mistakes sorry for that but ritual worship for rewards as per me is adulation also and so is cleaning one self. In Hindus it is called Yachman and in Sikhs perhaps panj snan. In Christians baptism is done to wash the sins. But actual sin washing is with the baptism of holy spirit. Actual Yachman or Panj Snan is enlightenment/Jivit Mukta Avastha. Sufis attain it with Dhikra, the liberation called Khalasi. But Islamists have no idea of it. They live in constant fear and same they distribute to others, share with others.
Dear Mr. Sina
I would like to correct a statement made above about a Jewish girl given a bomb by an Arab lover. She was in fact an Irish Catholic girl. She worked in a hotel in London and got pregnant by her Syrian boyfriend. He disappeared and she had a miscarriage. Again foolishly she got involved with him and at 30 years one expected her to have more sense.
Again she became pregnant and at 5 months he told her to go to Israel and they would marry there. He gave her a bag and he was equally naive as passengers flying to Israel have their luggage thoroughly checked as well as body pat-down. Naturally in the airport, probably Heathrow, the bomb in the bag was discovered. This was in 1984 or 1985. I worked with a girl who knew her.
Our islamic teachers regaled us with the stories of jihad with some qur'anic and ahadiths references when we were small children. I hope shabeer will go back and ask some learned imams about holy was. The jews of qurayza were massacred not because they betrayed muhammad but because they refused to accept islam when they surrendered.
Shabeer needs to study the qur'an revealed in medina not the meccan version of peace that he has been quoting. The medinan version of violent abrogated the earlier version that preached peace. That's if shabeer isn't trying to deceive himself.
@Shabeer,
Can you be still a muslim, if you denounce Muhammad as prophet and don't accept Quran as a devine message? Otherwise you are a monotheist and believe that you would submit only before one true Gdo (Whoever or whatever that be).
@Vijay,
adulation? Sure, are you? Or is it ABLUTION?
@Shabeer,
From your wiki link:
Edis maintains that the motivation to read modern scientific truths into holy books is also stronger for Muslims than Christians.This is because, according to Edis, true criticism of the Qur'an is almost non-existent in the Muslim world. While Christianity is less prone to see its Holy Book as the direct word of God, fewer Muslims will compromise on this idea – causing them to believe that scientific truths simply must appear in the Qur'an. However, Edis opines that there are endless examples of scientific discoveries that could be read into the Bible or Qur'an if one would like to.
I am also Indian but am Aryan. i would like to you to be in such a mental hospital. You people are blind you have no sense because you read Koran stop reading that and you will achieve the true knowledge come out of that bad very very bad book Koran………you never realized that your father were forcebly converted..lol
Lol If Allah can not forgive his sons why he be called great Allah ? You are big fool!
When water is absent, there is procedure of doing Tayyamul, where soil is used for adulation. This is from Hanafi Fiqh of Ahle Sunnat.
Welcome brother Shabbir! hope you go to Hajj and tell this to the Imam of Mecca Sharif or to Libya,Iran or any similar country and will have debate with them or here itself we have slave of prophet. Just convince him only.
Would you like to suggest Dr Naik to remove term "Naik" from his name ? Are terms like Shah, Khan anything to do with Arabic ? I would like you to elaborate that how Pakistan is trying level best to bring in India under the rule of Islam? why people in that country maintain the title like Rajah etc ? Has Pakistan got itself free from Hindu influence ?
He is baaaaaaaack !!!!!!!!
Oh thy homicide!!!,new cavalry of MAD MOHAMMED made of ho,ho,ho.,where the earlier one (Allah ho Akbar )was immersed,ha,ha,ha….
Prudence prevails !!!!,see those pictures above, can any body say's ,they are human's .They are raw material for our experiments ,we need not spend huge resources in the laboratory for creating artificial robots ,you guy understood what i meant .We can convert these people as our future robots ,we can send them to outer space for experiments or send in the furnaces of atomic reactor for putting the uranium bars into the furnace,ha,ha,ha……
You will be killed in Pakistan as an apostate if you chose your own religious belief. Try and see what happen. So don't talk rots here.
Pubic hair is unhygienic only for people living in the desert where there is hardly any water to wash. So Shabeer got the teaching from the people living in the desert of Arabia in the 7th century.
Who created dinosaurs ,millions and millions of years back, before man being created by this merciful Allah , He is clueless about them ,so no mention in Quran,ha,ha,ha,…….see how vulnerable they are in basics.
Who say's so? science or'"Allah" .If science say's so ,take my note ,science means "ever inquiring"phenomena ,today's inquiry of truth may be tomorrow's fallacy. Tomorrow some scientist may come with new experiment and say pubic hairs are essential to prevent some bacterias' from entering the gentiles,like the hairs in the nose prevents us from intruding bacterias .Some time back tonsils were said unessential part by the medical field ,now they realized it is very essential element of body.And now if at all ,it is said by Allah ,my simple question to him will be ,why? he created all of us with that pubic hair at first,if he see,s they are not hygienic. More over humans became proficient in removing these pubic hairs,only when they found some instrument (blade) ,it was human invention.Only then Allah found it necessary to reveal the dangers of pubic hair,why ?, why ?and why? . Don't you think this is an illogical tossing from Allah,now don't refer any site, ask your fertile mind for answer .
http://www.islamawareness.net/Science/quranmodernscience... http://www.minhajbooks.com/images…/islam-science/islam...
sunnahonline.com/ilm/quran/qms.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_science
#rid off female pubic hairs bcs they have their periods and it is dirty and very dangerous for health…………………….
Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 7.779 Narrated by Abu Huraira
I heard the Prophet (saws) saying. "Five practices are characteristics of the Fitra (nature): removing the pubic hair, clipping the nails, depilating the hair of the armpits; and circumcision and cutting the moustaches short (for the males)
Both the believing men and the believing women are obliged to remove their unwanted hair from their pubic region and from under their armpits. There is absolutely no restriction in Shariah regarding the method one may choose to remove their unwanted hair. One may use any method one wills and pleases or is convenient for them including clipping, cutting, shaving, waxing, hair removal cream, etc.
benefits of hair removal: The absence of it is erotic, sensational, & it's easier to sexually relieve yourself. You'll feel sexier, younger, & cleaner. For girls it makes their periods easier to clean up because the hair traps in blood. It's cleaner because hair traps in odors & dirt & is 1 less thing to wash when you take a shower. One of the reasons I started shaving is because I would kill time twirling the hairs when I saw that area. Pubes can get caught in stuff like your zipper. & you won't leave long gross hairs on stuff like toilets.
http://www.cradleofhumanity.com/category/hair-rem… http://islamic-world.net/sister/h17.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikini_waxing
Mr. Can you define, what is "conversion" , i mean ,a belief or existence of reality .Your cult is based , on doubt and beliefs.This world tread the path of practicality ,and practicality blossoms ,when put to test beyond belief .Now tell me ,whatever things you are stating here ,with the support of your scripture (in totality,again i say , you have liberty to choose the things,you feel fresh for confrontations) are true (again you have to explain "truth" before being put to test ). If so how you defend them in practicality ,please read my post carefully ,before making any attempt to reply ,so later you shouldn't take refuge of innocence.
So funny!!!,your Pakistan is splitting day by day (a painful death), of course.You are still swimming in 1400 years, the infidels are swimming and cover 1400 years of future each hour .Breeding is not quality it is quantity,the rice is in quantity so wheat and form a very good food ha,ha,ha.Handling of sophisticated armory is important, a qualitative can do that ,a day will come and your cult believe" Allah came into existence" ,"Gabriel makes announcements ","Mohammed come to live" etc, things and, you will surrender your self to them without any fight,ha,ha,ha.You know who will be they.We ,we and we the aliens/intelligent infidels ha,ha,ha. Day dreaming is helpful for helpless people ,poor fellow carry on.
Ya many people like great Zakir Naik says to the project "Moguhulistan" but I think Islamistan would be batter name. i advise if you are a Muslim then change your name. "Vijay" is pointer of Hindu/non-believer.
If I am not mistaken are you talking about Moghulistan Project ?
@vijay
My relative (Grand father, mother) even today live in Pakistan. Both India & Pakistan are home of mine. When Islam would be in power Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Afghanistan will reunite. This whole subcontinent will be "Isalmistan". Pakitan is trying its best to make India a Muslim dominate country to merge India into Pakistan.
You once said that you are Pakistani. Muslims are 20% in India and by 2050, they will outnumber non Muslims, as rest are going in for family planing and Muslims are not. They multiply a lot in Islamic nations, so less resources there. Excess population goes to non Islamic nations, there again they multiply a lot and soon out number the natives. You are really fastest growing. Non Muslims have no way to prevent you.
We have indeed created man in the best of moulds,
95.004 With this verse Ahle Kuran people do not remove their foreskin.
First I am a Muslim and follower of prophet. Second I am an Indian. According to Islam religion is above country and India is country of non-believers. 86 percent population of India comprise of Hindu, Sikh, Jain, Budhiest non-believers in prophet & Allah.
why did ALLA created pubic hair ? Obviously, according to Moslems ALLA was a stupid guy. THen Why did not MO, ask ALLAH to make them disappear or the need to not having to shave !!!MO bargained with ALLAH to reduce the number of prayers from 50 times a day to 5 a day !!! actually MO was the boss of ALLAH !!! ALLAH dare not to disobey MO !!!
Yes you can write a good book on Mohammad too . Mohammad will be the most notorious person in the human history with some decades , just wait and see. I just cant understand how about 1.5 billions of people can believe such a notorious criminal who even didn’t spare a 9 years old kid but raped her, his adopted son's wife Zainab but f***ed her. A prophet ? I am sure that if there is any Satan , Mohammad was the embodiment of that Satan and came to this earth to pollute the human civilization and its still working in full swing. We can see this happening in all the muslim countries.
Hello Lucy ,
you seem living in an western country and also I feel you converted to Islam for marital purpose. So it means you did not convert to Islam knowing it fully. That has been good for you and so you read Quran with an open mind. So you could come to the conclusion rapidly. But my friend , why are you still living with a Muslim guy who is so blind for his evil cult Islam ? A true muslim cant love anybody , believe me , just utter something bad about Mohammad to him , u will see how much he loves you. so best solution is to leave him alone , it may sound harsh but its the one and only true solution. Just tell him that you dont want to live with him anymore as you think Islam is not for you.
Why does allah hate everything that God created? Women are were born with body parts for a reason – FGM goes against all that as does male circumcision! We have pubic hair to stop chaffing and no other reason yet that has to be taken off. I swear if we were born with a massive piece of skin hiding our faces that would have to be removed too. ALLAH IS A PSYCO FROM HELL.
your punctutions disqualifies you for a reply – ho, ho, ho !!
you are mistaken. Mohammad will come back again, not once but a thousand times, each time he will be badly mauled by Kafirs and die a miserable death.
Don't worry about curing Ali Sina. Your vile, wretched author of Devil's compendium , Mohammad is getting cured in one of the Hells under orders from Yamaraj. Those of you , whose intellect is stunted enough to be unable to comprehend the Wisdom of Ali Sina will surely find a place close to your beloved Master Monster Mohammad.
I swear if allah has power, he would have shut anything internet which exposes his nakedness. But unfortunate, he depend on his weak slaves who in turn depend on infidels for anything they need for their survival in this modern world. Hahaha…., shame to allah and his prophet Mo, for doing nothing to cover their nakedness.
Every one needs pleasure and not pain,without pain pleasure cannot be enjoyed.Love or liking to opposite sex is nothing but lust for sex.If a man is good at sex the woman becomes his slaves .These morons are expert in this art ,because they live on others labor.They don't have any other fruitful things to do in their life,they resort to sex and always in the planning to ,seduce the women in their target. Girls like Lucy's become easy targets for these people, ha,ha,ha!!!! .
There is no vacancy for Ziotuni here ,his qualifications do not deserve any call for ,ha,ha,ha!!!
"What should I do?" 1. People usually do not change their religion and keep following the one they were born into. So forget about him "waking up". It wont happen. 2. Ask him something like "if I was not a Muslim, would you be OK with that?" If its not a nice response, distance yourself from him slowly and eventually divorce. Dont get stuck.
It's weird that Muslims are proud to be a slave of Prophet Mo, but when i tell them that Mohammad was a slave master, they get pissed.
You SOB, why don't you have a debate with Ziotuni!
You are Indian!!!. I am ashamed. Ali Sina is the new Hindu God. The presiding diety of Anti-Islam matters. You take help from him to fight Islam.
Never heard of such a thing in Hinduism. In Sikhism no part of your body should be cut ,including hair.
His followers are still exterminating each other in sectarian violence till Doomsday. Not a too happy ending, perhaps ?
Just like the quran ! Albert Einstein had found so many scientific errors in all the holy books that he declared that all these human-created gods are so confused and ill-informed.
I'm pretty sure Koran mentioned that Prophet Isa (that's Jesus, according to muslims), will return when it's end of the world.
Then why don't you write your "understanding of Ali Sina" book?
I'd love to read that.
That donkey flying Mo ruined life of billions.
Ha,ha,ha !!! ,go and dig your head in the sand of Medina,people have become well aware of ISLAM and MAD MOHAMMED ,no one can be made fools hence onwards.,enough is enough keep your knowledge with you ha,ha!!!
If 'Allah" is the creator ,including the pubic hair ,why he change his law now, why cant he amend/recreate us without these dirty hairs henceforth,it is a minutes work for this almighty entity ha ,ha,ha!!!!. Why,why and why?,he can't do that instead of lecturing us through the lunatic Gabriel and slave MAD MOHAMMED to do these things self .Who converted the manganese into iron and iron into blade,without which the pubic hair cannot be removed ,ha,ha,where is this book of secret containing making blade,ha,ha. So ridiculous…..isn't it.
Mohamad will never come again too.
Dear Slave of Prophet, I follow Jesus because He is the ram in the bush for Ibrahim and He is the ultimate sacrifice for sin, the holy Lamb of God Who takes away my sin and the sin of the world. This song sums up why you and I ought to follow Jesus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHz2_HLw7fg
@Agracean
Why are u people following Jesus? Prophet Mohammad was last messenger. Jesus would never come again. Bibal is full of absurdities and contradictions.
Dear Ms Dr Ali Sina, you've mentioned that women do produce more testosterone than men after the age of fifty and some of them do grow beard or facial hair. How about those young girls or young women who actually grow beard or facial hair? Is it normal?
Dear Lucy, you didn't mention if your husband is abusive in nature or not. I think that your safety should come first and it would be wise for you to prepare yourself for the worst scenario if he suddenly gone mad by your frankness because Islam means everything to a braindead zombie. Take care. Jesus loves you. 🙂
Pity on the lady, She left the true religion (Islam). Allah will never forgive you. If anybody comes in Islam it is privilege of him/her.
"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread." Lucy should have read the koran well before and not after marriage to a Muslim. Now she is faced with a very difficult situation.
"Dirty pubic hair" is a really sad,pathetic and funny way to prove that your religion is true.Even if science does agree with the Quran on this particular and weird topic,it would still not validate Islam because Judaism (Old Testament) and Hinduism predates Islam with similar,if not the exact laws on bodily hygiene.