Islam is Fascism

Common elements of Islam with fascism

Islam is a religion with a very political agenda. The ultimate goal of Islam is to rule the world. But what kind of government an Islamic state would have?

It certainly won’t be democratic. Islam is not compatible with democracy. Amir Taheri, an Iranian born author/journalist in a debate on Islam and democracy argued that in fact the word democracy does not exist in any of the languages spoken by Muslims. “To understand a civilization,” Taheri said, “it is important to understand its vocabulary. If it was not on their tongues it is likely that it was not on their minds either.”

Democracy implies equality. But equality is unacceptable in Islam. Un-believers cannot be equal to believers and women are not equal to men. Even the non-Muslims are not deemed to be equal. The People of the Book (Jews and Christians) are accepted as second class citizens and allowed to live in an Islamic state provided they pay the protection tax; Jizyah. But the pagans, atheists and idolaters are not regarded as fully humans. According to the Quran, the idolaters are to be killed wherever they are found. (9:5)

In the April 9, 2002 issue, The Wall Street Journal published the concept of blood money in Saudi Arabia. If a person has been killed or caused to die by another, the latter has to pay blood money or compensation, as follow.

100,000 riyals if the victim is a Muslim man
50,000 riyals if a Muslim woman
50,000 riyals if a Christian man
25,000 riyals if a Christian woman
6,666 riyals if a Hindu man
3,333 riyals if a Hindu woman

According to this hierarchy, a Muslim man’s life is worth 33 times that of a Hindu woman. This hierarchy is based on the Islamic definition of human rights and is rooted in the Quran and Sharia (Islamic law). How can we talk of democracy when the concept of equality in Islam is inexistent?

Of course killing the idolaters “where ye find them” was not always expedient. What would the Muslim rulers in India gain if they killed all the Hindus? Over whom would they rule? So pragmatism often prevailed and Muslim rulers would exert some degree of tolerance towards their pagan subjects. It is hard to find a Muslim ruler as ruthless as Muhammad himself. Muslim rulers killed whenever profit dictated and since live subjects were more profitable than dead ones, exterminations were not total as was intended by Muhammad. Nonetheless, their tolerance was out of political expediency. Muhammad’s butchery of his victims on the other hand, was psychopathological. He would massacre entire populations simply because they rejected him or hurt his narcissistic ego.

The Christians and the Jews, the so called People of the Book, had some conditional rights. They had to pay Jizyah and buy their protection. Nonetheless they lived in a state of religious apartheid and were subject to humiliating treatments. For example, they were considered najis (impure) and were not allowed to go out in rainy days, lest their impurity rub on a passing Muslim, make him “impure” and annul his prayer.

Jews and Christians were required to dismount from their riding animals if they met a Muslim on their way and they were supposed to greet him humbly and show submissiveness towards him. The Dhimmis were not allowed to build their houses taller than those of their Muslim neighbors and in some cases they were not allowed to build new churches and synagogues and needed permission to repair the existing ones.  This law is practiced to this day in virtually all Muslim countries.

Taheri says: “To say that Islam is incompatible with democracy should not be seen as a disparagement of Islam. On the contrary, many Muslims would see it as a compliment because they sincerely believe that their idea of rule by God is superior to that of rule by men which is democracy.”

In an article titled “The Political Framework of Islam,” found on many Islamic sites, the author explains: “In Western democracy, the people are sovereign; in Islam sovereignty is vested in Allah and the people are His caliphs or representatives. The laws given by Allah through His Prophet (Shari ‘ah) are to be regarded as constitutional principles that should not be violated.”

Taheri quoted several Muslim thinkers who expressed their disdain and disapproval of democracy.

“Ayatollah Khomeini called democracy “a form of prostitution” because he who gets the most votes wins the power that belongs only to Allah.

Sayyed Qutb, the Egyptian who is credited to be the ideological mentor of Safalists, spent a year in the United States in the 1950s and wrote: ” America is a nation that has forgotten God and been forsaken by Him; an arrogant nation that wants to rule itself.”

Yussuf al-Ayyeri, one of the leading theoreticians of today’s Islamist movement, published a book ( available on the Internet) in which he warned that the real danger to Islam did not come from American tanks and helicopter gunships in Iraq but from the idea of democracy and rule by the people.

Maudoodi, another of the Islamist theoreticians now fashionable, dreamed of a political system in which human beings would act as automatons in accordance with rules set by God.
He said that God has arranged man’s biological functions in such a way that their operation is beyond human control. For our non-biological functions, notably our politics, God has set rules that we have to discover and apply once and for all so that our societies can be on auto-pilot so to speak.

The late Saudi theologian, Sheikh Muhammad bin Ibrahim al-Jubair, a man I respected though seldom agreed with, sincerely believed that the root cause of all of our contemporary ills was the spread of democracy. “Only one ambition is worthy of Islam,” he liked to say, “the ambition to save the world from the curse of democracy: to teach men that they cannot rule themselves on the basis of manmade laws. Mankind has strayed from the path of God, we must return to that path or face certain annihilation.””

So what kind of government Islam is proposing?

Democracy means the rule of people. This is unacceptable in Islam. The Quran is empathic that “to Allah belong all Dominion and power” (2.165, 35:10, 35:13, 64:1). The words “No judgment but God’s” (la hukm illa li-llah) is based on several Quranic verses (esp. 6.57; 12.40, 67 etc.) This power is vested on His regent known as Khalifat al-Allah.

The Khalifa cannot legislate. He can only interpret the Law given in the Quran and the sunnah and apply it. Naturally, since the Quran is not a clear book, this allows for a wide range of interpretations and this explains why there are so many Islamic schools of thoughts and sects. “But the bottom line is” says Taheri, “that no Islamic government can be democratic in the sense of allowing the common people equal shares in legislation.”

Common people are called awwam, and as the saying goes: al-awwam kal anaam! (Awwam are like animals).

It is up to the “experts” of the Law to interpret the Sharia and let the awwam know how they should live their lives. This endows the “expert” ruler, all the power and allows him to act as the deputy of God on Earth. There can be no opposition to the ruler. You can’t oppose God by opposing his representative.

In democracies people’s beliefs are irrelevant. They can belong to any religion or no religion and still manage to govern themselves in a secular state. This is not the case in Islam where God is the lawgiver. Christians and Jews have managed to separate the Church from the State. Such a separation in Islam is not possible. The concept of Church (with uppercase C) as understood in Christianity does not exist in Islam. There is no authority like the Vatican or the Church of England in Islam. Mullahs and Imams are average Muslims who through their knowledge of the Quran and Sharia gain reputation among the ummah and their own peers. You can’t separate the Islamic “Church” from politics, because there is no such thing as the Islamic “Church”. Every Mullah can interpret the Sharia in his own way. But he can’t redefine the explicit teachings of Islam.

Presently, Muslims don’t have a khalifa. Even if they had, he would not have been able to deviate from the Quran and separate Islam from politics.

Islam’s main goal is to give the dominion of this world to its “rightful” owner, Allah. No authority on Earth can change that. Impeding Islam to achieve this goal is denying its raison d’être and it is tantamount to blasphemy. Islam by definition is imperialistic.

It must advance, conquer and reclaim the dominion of all the earth or there is no reason for it to exist.

Democracies are pluralistic. In democracies people have different faiths and are free to criticize, not only each other’s religions but also their own. Islam does not tolerate such a thing. Anyone who criticizes Islam faces severe punishment including execution or assassination. Islam is regarded as the only Truth. Defying this truth is the same as defying God. Challenging the authority of the representative of God on earth is like challenging God himself.

On May 27, 1999 Rafsanjani, one of the ruling Mullahs of Iran said: “If the Islamic nature and fundamental pillar of the state and the velayat-e faqih (Shiite version of khalifa) are undermined, nothing would be left around.” The same day, Khatami, the so called “reformist” president of the Islamic Republic said in the city of Qom: “Society’s parting with religion and the clergy is the beginning of our fall.” Khatami in July 5, 1998 said: “velayat-e faqih is the axis and pillar of the state,” he reiterated, “velayat-e faqih is the raison d’être of our state. As such, opposing it… is to oppose the fundamentals and pillar of the state….No state would tolerate assaults on its principles and pillars,” he said. [Iran Zamin News Agency] defines the concept of velayat-e faqih, the Shiite version of khilafat and says: “In the theory of velayate faqih none of us can tell the difference between good and bad and, indeed, the whole edifice of the clerical ruler-ship has been constructed to cope with our “ignorance”. The supreme clerical leader is our custodian (qayyem), and we are like sheep that if separated from our shepherd would surely be lost. The velayate faqih embodies every rights and the rest of us are only to carry duties. At its most pithy definition, the system of velayate faqih is the expression of this ignorance and absence of rights on our part in contrast with the all knowing, all powerful, clerical ruler.”

Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader explained the concept of velaya-e faqih, the position that he himself is occupying, with an uncanny frankness when he said: “the leadership means that point where the insoluble problems of government are solved at his hands. His person lights up the truth for the people and exposes the conspiracies of the enemy.” [ibid]

In the Islamic state religion is preeminent and God serves as the only legitimate source of legislation. Temporal rulers merely implement the laws of Islam as dictated by God.

The following article titled “Essential Features of the Islamic Political System” explains the concept of khilafat as understood by Muslims.

“The political system of Islam is based on three principles: Tawhid (unity of Allah), Risalat (Prophethood) and Khilafat (vicegerency).

Tawhid means that only Allah is the Creator, Sustainer and Master of the universe and of all that exists in it organic or inorganic. The sovereignty of this kingdom is vested only in Him. He alone has the right to command or forbid. Worship and obedience are due to Him alone, no one and nothing else shares it in any way. Life, in all its forms, our physical organs and faculties, the apparent control which we have over nearly everything in our lives and the things themselves, none of them has been created or acquired by us in our own right. They have been bestowed on us entirely by Allah. Hence, it is not for us to decide the aim and purpose of our existence or to set the limits of our authority; nor is anyone else entitled to make these decisions for us. This right rests only with Allah, who has created us, endowed us with mental and physical faculties, and provided material things for our use.

This principle of the unity of Allah totally negates the concept of the legal and political independence of human beings, individually or collectively. No individual, family, class or race can set themselves above Allah. Allah alone is the Ruler and His commandments are the Law.

The medium through which we receive the law of Allah is known as Risalat. We have received two things from this source: the Book in which Allah has set out His law, and the authoritative interpretation and exemplification of the Book by the Prophet, blessings and peace be on him through word and deed, in his capacity as the representative of Allah. The Prophet, blessings and peace be on him, has also, in accordance with the intention of the Divine Book, given us a model for the Islamic way of life by himself implementing the law and providing necessary details where required. The combination of these two elements is called the Shari ‘ah.

Now consider Khilafat. According to the Arabic lexicon, it means ‘representation’. Man, according to Islam, is the representative of Allah on earth, His vicegerent. That is to say, by virtue of the powers delegated to him by Allah, he is required to exercise his Allah-given authority in this world within the limits prescribed by Allah.

A state that is established in accordance with this political theory will in fact be a human caliphate under the sovereignty of Allah and will do Allah’s will by working within the limits prescribed by Him and in accordance with His instructions and injunctions.”

This definition makes clear that the rule of Islamic system of government is not limited to Muslims but to every “organic or inorganic” thing that exists in this universe. This of course includes the non-Muslims. In an Islamic state everyone must live according to the dictates of Islam.

Khilafat or the velayat-e faqih are not dissimilar to fascism. The Columbia Encyclopedia, defines fascism as: “A totalitarian philosophy of government that glorifies the state and nation and assigns to the state control over every aspect of national life.”

Characteristics of Fascist Philosophy:

“Fascism, especially in its early stages, is obliged to be antitheoretical and frankly opportunistic in order to appeal to many diverse groups. Nevertheless, a few key concepts are basic to it. First and most important is the glorification of the state and the total subordination of the individual to it. The state is defined as an organic whole into which individuals must be absorbed for their own and the state’s benefit. This “total state” is absolute in its methods and unlimited by law in its control and direction of its citizens.

A second ruling concept of fascism is embodied in the theory of social Darwinism. The doctrine of survival of the fittest and the necessity of struggle for life is applied by fascists to the life of a nation-state. Peaceful, complacent nations are seen as doomed to fall before more dynamic ones, making struggle and aggressive militarism a leading characteristic of the fascist state. Imperialism is the logical outcome of this dogma. Another element of fascism is its elitism. Salvation from rule by the mob and the destruction of the existing social order can be effected only by an authoritarian leader who embodies the highest ideals of the nation. This concept of the leader as hero or superman, borrowed in part from the romanticism of Friedrich Nietzsche, Thomas Carlyle, and Richard Wagner, is closely linked with fascism’s rejection of reason and intelligence and its emphasis on vision, creativeness, and the will.”

Let us compare that to Islam. Islam is opportunistic par excellence. It is extremely deceptive and despite being a doctrine of war it portrays itself as the religion of peace. It wants to have a universal appeal. It subjugates women and Muhammad was a misogynist of the worst kind but its apologists present him as the champion of women’s rights. The Quran is an asinine book of nonsense, yet its defenders claim that it is a miracle which contains scientific facts. It opposes knowledge and technology, yet it is presented as the religion that encourages learning. Muslims are fond of reminding others that Muhammad said “seek knowledge even if it is China” But the fact is that any knowledge that is perceived as contradicting the Quran is regarded satanic and is to be destroyed.

The Royal Library of Alexandria in Egypt was once the largest in the world. It was founded at the beginning of the 3rd century BC during the reign of Ptolemy II of Egypt. It stored at its peak, 400,000 to 700,000 scrolls. In 640 AD Muslims took the city and upon learning of “a great library containing all the knowledge of the world” the conquering general asked Khalifa Omar for instructions. Omar has been quoted as saying of the Library’s holdings, “they will either contradict the Quran, in which case they are heresy, or they will agree with it, so they are superfluous.” And to be on the safe side he ordered the library to be destroyed and the books burnt.

This is how Muslims try to portray a false image of Islam so it can have a broad appeal.

The most important feature of Islamic polity is the glorification of Islamic state and the total subordination of the individual to it.

Just like in fascism, the Islamic state is defined as an organic whole to which individuals must submit. In Islam “freedom” is in submission to Allah and his messenger. The very word Islam, which Muslims deceptively translate as peace, means submission. What is good for Islam and the Islamic state is good for Muslims and what is bad for Islam and the Islamic state is to be spurned and regarded as bad for the Muslims too. Islam and the establishment of Islam’s dominion are the greater good and the ultimate goal that every Muslim must strive for.

The Islamic site writes: “The highest organization in society is the state. Islam has given to the world the practical form and ideals of statehood. Therefore, the question of how religion should inspire, inform and discipline life, is naturally related to the question of how should it be related to the highest organization of society (i.e. the state).”

The other ruling of Islam is the concept of Jihad and the necessity to struggle in order to advance the Islamic dominance. The motto that “Islam is a religion of peace” is a preposterous slogan that is part of the strategy of the Islamic “Game of Deception”. Islam does not mean peace, it does not preach peace, it has never been peaceful and it will never be. Islam has advanced through aggressive militarism and regards Jihad and martyrdom as the most meritorious acts. Islam is militant and imperialistic by its very nature.

Fascism is elitist. Islam is also elitist. The Khalifa or the velayat-e faqih is the ultimate authority on Earth. He is the one who can understand the scriptures property. His word is the ultimate undisputable decree. However, theoretically, just as in communism, anyone can aspire to become Khalifa. The Khalifa in Sunni sect is elected by the populace whereas the velayate-e faqih in Shiism is nominated by a body of the ruling Mullahs called: “The Assembly of Experts”.

Whether this ruler is elected or nominated, just like in other totalitarian regimes, he occupies his seat for life and responds to no human authority.

Another similarity of Islam and fascism is their disdain of reason and intelligence. In Islam, the emphasis is on faith and unquestioning obedience to the mandates of God. Reason is rejected as a fallacy. Abu Hamid Al-Ghazali, (1058 – 1111 CE), arguably the greatest Islamic scholar ever, in his book “Incoherence of the Philosophers” bitterly denounced Aristotle, Plato, Socrates and other Greek thinkers as non-believers and labeled those who employed their methods and ideas as corrupters of the Islamic faith. He took aim at Avicenna for being a rationalist who drew intellectually upon the Ancient Greeks. By emphasizing on the incompatibility of faith and reason, and by asserting the futility of making faith subordinate to reason, Ghazali gave validity to unreasoned faith and thus glorified stupidity.

William Montgomery Watt says: “The early period of Islamic thought is dominated by the conception of the unchangeability of true religion and the special Arab and Islamic conception of the nature of knowledge. Knowledge that is important for the conduct of life – and this is knowledge in the fullest sense – is obtained in the revealed words of God and in the sayings of prophets and other specially gifted men. From this conception of knowledge it follows that the work of the scholar is to transmit accurately the revealed text and other wise sayings”. [The Formative Period of Islamic Thought, p.63]

It is important to note that when Muslims talk about knowledge, they are talking about the “revealed” knowledge and not the secular scientific knowledge that has given birth to our civilization. The word science in Arabic is ilm. The people, who possess this ilm, are called ulama (plural of alim).  Alim does not mean scientist. It means religious scholar. Ilm is religious science.

Islam does not encourage the learning of science. Islamic languages don’t have a word for it. Islam encourages religious learning. This is what Muhammad meant when he said “seek knowledge”. Seeking knowledge in Islam, means memorizing the Quran and the hadith.

Islam as a Means of Power

Inspired by the Quran, Muslim groups employ sectarian violence to achieve political ends. The first group was Kharijiyya. The Kharijiyya insisted on two things. First, that the Islamic community must be based on the Quran. The second point emphasized the ascendancy of the Islamic state over the individual rights. Motivated by many verses of the Quran (32.13, 76:29-31, 3:39, 3:159, 16:93, 2:6-7, 4:88, etc.), they maintained that God’s will, must supersede men’s will and claimed the community is the bearer of the values that constitute meaningfulness, in other words men’s life has meaning only if he belongs to Muslim community. These ideas were based on the Quran and were eventually adopted by the rest of the Muslims. This is how fascism defines the position of the individual vis-à-vis the state.

Muslim rationalists such as Mutazilis placed reason above revelation. They were violent too. Their school was vehemently opposed by more fervent Islamists and became extinct. They were attacked by a group called Ashariyya to which al-Ghazali and the celebrated poet Rumi belonged. Rumi mocked the rationalists and in a catchy verse that left its mark on the psyche of the gullible masses said the rationalists stand on “wooden legs”.

The Ashariyya glorified irrationality and remained faithful to the Quran. They rejected the rationalists whom, in their view, had forsaken religion and had detracted from God and his revelation. Thus rational objectivism was quashed with mockery and violence, the books of rationalists such as Zakaria Razi were destroyed and rationalists had to hide for their safety. The Ashariyya won because they had the backing of the Quran.

With Ashariyyah’s unconditional embrace of the authority of revelation, and their glorification of irrationality, rationalism was nipped in the bud and most likely the Renascence that was about to be born 1000 years ago, did not. We will never know the extent of the harm that these celebrated religious zealots caused to human  civilization.

In an article titled: Is Rumi What We Think He Is? Massoume Price quotes Dr. Shaffiee Kadkani who wrote: “unfortunately the emergence of geniuses such as Rumi and other Urafa (religious mystics) who unconditionally supported Ashariyya did not give freedom of thought a chance”. He concludes, “If it wasn’t because of Ashariyya our history might have evolved differently”. [Creation and History, (Afarinesh va Tarikh, p.50)]

Price contends: “It is not a coincidence that in Mathnavi, Rumi attacks all thinkers including atheists, naturalists and philosophers etc…. When Ibn Khadon [Khaldun] troduction (Mogadameh) [Muqaddimah] t Africans are black because of geographical and environmental conditions, it was the Ashariyya who ended such scientific observations by declaring people are black because God created them as such. When Physicians tried to find the connection between the brain and hand’s movements, it was Imam Muhammad Ghazali who mocked scientific inquiry and stated “hands move because God wants them to move” (Alchemy of Happiness, Kimiyaya Saadat). It was Ashariyya who imposed inquisition culture that still exists today and haunts us even in North America.”

The New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, (Third Edition. 2002) says: “As a rule, fascist governments are dominated by a dictator, who usually possesses a magnetic personality, wears a showy uniform, and rallies his followers by mass parades; appeals to strident nationalism; and promotes suspicion or hatred of both foreigners and “impure” people within his own nation, such as the Jews in Germany.”

In Islam, the Khalifa does not wear a showy uniform. On the contrary, in accordance to Muhammad’s sunnah, he exerts himself to make a public display of modesty. Modesty is just a show and a hallmark of Islam. The more modest you dress, the more pious you look. But the Friday prayers and the hajj are the Islamic versions of mass parades that are designed to impress the believer, give him a sense of pride and belonging and make him firm in his belief that Islam is strong.

This parade to Muhammad was so important that in one hadith he is quoted saying:

“I thought that I should order the prayer to be commenced and command a person to lead people in prayer, and I should then go along with some persons having a fagot of fuel with them to the people who have not attended the prayer (in congregation) and would burn their houses with fire. [Muslim4,1370; Bukhari1,11,626]

Islam also promoted suspicion and hatred of the unbelievers. Muhammad said that the unbelievers are impure (najis) 9:28 and instilled in them the hatred of the Jews, saying God transformed them into apes and swine. 2.65, 5.60, 7.166

Clearly, the Islamic system of government is fascistic.

• It is marked by centralization of authority under a supreme leader vested with divine clout.
• It has stringent socioeconomic control over all aspects of all its subjects irrespective of their faith.
• It suppresses its opposition through terror and censorship.
• It has a policy of belligerence towards non-believers.
• It practices religious apartheid.
• It disdains reason.
• It is imperialistic.
• It is oppressive.
• It is dictatorial and
• It is controlling.

Islam, like fascism, appeals to people with low self esteem and low intelligence. Both these ideologies are irrational. They disdain reason, and hail devotion and submission to a higher authority. Like fascists, Muslims are triumphalists. They seek power, domination and control. They pride themselves in their strength of number, in their mindless heroism, in their disdain for life and in their willingness to kill and die for their cause.

Islam is political and political Islam is fascism.

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45 Responses

  1. Peaceful says:

    Islam is religion of peace and true so please take this website down and delete everything this alisina is fake fellow troublemaker 

  2. Orientalist says:

    I didn't see the references for this post – all colud be the product of imagination. This critic is not academic valuable.

  3. luckylarrysilverstein says:

    Was Jesus Sinless?

    By Abdullah Kareem

    The Muslims believe the Prophets were sinless and pure, it doesn’t mean they were divine. The Holy Quran validates the Prophets of God by denying the falsehood of the Bible. The Old Testament degrades the Prophets of God and vilifies them. We don’t believe the Biblical stories of moral depravity; the Holy Prophets never caused any evil. But unfortunately, the New Testament has distorted the pure image of Jesus. Christians boast that Jesus was sinless and pure, yet the Bible teaches the exact opposite. Jesus was adopted into a cursed lineage; he was baptized to remove the sins. Christians believe the exact opposite of the New Testament.

    Mohammedans had to pretend that the prophets of the Jewish Bible were sinless, because they wanted to PRETEND that Mohammed was sinless.

    BUT, Mohammed was a Murdering, Raping, Child Molesting, Enslaving, Thieving Arabian thug!

    The "prophet" of Islam was the Scum of the Earth!

    And so is ANYONE who follows the PERVERT!

  4. I-HATE-ISLAM says:

    Eddy, good question. They also say that JESUS will be stationed next to GOD. Why not Muhammad? All these show that the pre-eminence of JESUS is beyond question. Let those who want to delude themselves continue to do so. Jesus is who He says He is.

  5. eddy says:

    If you (Muslims) believe that Moses,Jesus ,& mohammad are all prophets of God , Then why you Say: How will you be when the son of mary(i.e jesus) descends amongst you & he will judge people by the law of God.
    why you chose Jesus & not Mohammad?

  6. tripexunal says:

    just awesome!

  7. pautaicepma says:


  8. Sanatan Dharma says:

    Only an oppressive religion makes you worship their history. A Godly religion let’s anyone connect directly with God. Godly religion gives you techniques and oppressive religions are history centric.
    The most important thing is the techniques. That should be main big point of a faith. Instead these crazy Mohammedan fanatics put history first and historical events first. Only subverted people believe in such non-sense. And take Buddha for example. Although there are some Buddhists that worship buddha, Buddha actually told his followers to not worship him. People asked if he was God or a prophet. And he said no to both. He said I am just a man who was awakened, Buddha. And he also said there were many Buddhas before me and many will come after me. Anyone can accomplish what I have done. You just need to use the Techniques I show you. And he teaches his students the different techniques like vipassana meditation. The point is a true teacher will help you experience what he or she experienced. Only a fake will say worship me or follow me or say I am the last one, no one can do what i have done. Total nonsense. There will always be people who can connect with God.

  9. Which Veda you reffered to,by MaxMuller, Griffith, Horne or Sayan?

  10. Truth Seeker says:

    As per Islam /Saudi Arab claims it is clear Islam not a religion but a political agenda :-
    Saudi Arab Language (Arbi) world best language.
    Saudi Arab prophet world best prophet.
    Saudi Arab prophet world last prophet.
    Name in Arabian language world best name.
    Saudi Arab world best Country.
    Saudi Arab city "Mecca" world Best City & sacred city?
    Saudi Arab's Muslim world best Muslim.
    Non- Arab Muslim can not marry with Arabian Girl.
    Saudi Arabian Muslim man can marry non-Saudi Girl.

    I am a non-Arab Muslim
    1. Arab men can marry my daughters and sisters but I cant marry theirs
    2. Arab Muslims call Non Arab Muslims as “Mawali”
    3. Arabs converted Non Arabs into Islam by tying them in chains on their necks
    4. Ummah of Muhammad was made best among all
    5. Quran and Muhammad were sent for Arabs only
    6. Caliphate sealed for Arabs only, Non Arabs can only be loyal servants to Arab masters
    7. Only seventy thousand seats available for Muslims in heaven, will those be filled by masters or slaves?
    Sahih Bukhari 8.76.550:

    Narrated Abu Huraira: I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “From my followers there will enter Paradise a crowd, seventy thousand in number, whose faces will glitter as the moon does when it is full…”
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  11. Gondes says:


    (11) his false inspired book allows for bestiality, paedophilia, even prostitution and rape with non-islamic, so never could emanate from the perfect God concept, the One and Only
    (12) he never was an never will be a prophet, because he did not prophesize anything
    (13) under Law and Justice, mohammad or mafoma will always be a criminal, a murderer and a leader full of prejudice that incited several crimes to Mankind created in God's Image. If he was alive he had to be judged by these known crimes against Humanity (and many others not here listed), listed and set as example in the false religious book coran or quran, and be in jail several years for them (or have his hands cut, his head cut, stoned to death, etc by his own standards in his false religious book), and by having led his arab followers in a wrong, pharisaic, confused, out-of-focus, lying and misleading way. Such criminal must be in hell for the sufferings this psychopath impinged on his akin, on others at his time and throughout the world thereafter. Definitely not a man of God, may be only an instrument of the devil in disturbing then and now the Mankind peaceful co-existence otherwise.
    (14) besides all these crimes and sinful attitudes he, and the one's who wrote and adapted the 'koran' for him (150 years after his death), still exerted the final arrogance of claiming for mohammad to be the last prophet! That is absolutely ridiculous, to say the least, since with such un-holly arrogance he his trying to silence God and All of His Holy Messengers (of whose list he will never belong).
    (15) because of being one of the most successful criminals and deceivers of Mankind (may be with devil's help!), the arab merchant and sinner mohammad was then converted into an economic political and tribal leader, but he also revelled to have a psychopath a racist and a schizophrenic character common to mentally-blind illiterate people.
    What is regretful is that some pious, God's fear and God's devoting character of many non-Christian arabs and middle east citizens, is not devoted to Jesus Christ. Under Law and Justice there is nothing to judge Jesus Christ for: He was a Lover of All Mankind, believers and gentiles, jews and non-jews, God-abiding people and people labelled by public as sinners !
    Jesus Christ only gave examples of The Great Lover of Mankind and his best Peacemaker. Jesus Christ was is and will always be The Holy Being, a Holy Soul!.
    Jesus Christ is the true God, the one and Only God of Jews (from whom Arabs also supposedly descend, from Abraham, as half-brothers) and Christians (and one day also The Prophet-God Messanger of the present muslims), the Almighty Reason and Perfect karma of Buddhists and Hinduism, the God of gods of many civilizations not directly visited or witnessing His Human facet (Jesus Christ Himself).
    In modern scientific terms, Jesus Christ can be thought as the three-dimensional intersection of God's multi-dimensional space with our three-dimensional human physical space on Earth and the Universe; so Jesus Christ is also the Creator or Cause of the Universe, and the leitmotiv of Humanity existence on His Image.
    WAKE UP islam (stop destroying yourselves and the God created Mankind and world) AND RAISE UP IN UNISSON AGAINST ISLAMO-FASCISM! Stop your involution with the devil, and BE CHRISTIAN for ever and ever!

    Please post this as a help for all needed, and as a Human Testimony of my personal survival with Jesus Christ, the Lover of Mankind and of All God Creation.

  12. Gondes says:


    Here I send you a personal essay, a testimony, depicting my personal saga that was completely worth. I denied islam and its false arab criminal leader for ever and ever, and will die with Holy Thoughts of JESUS in my brain: do not need anything else!
    Now I grew up as a Mankind Worldwide citizen without fanaticism and lies and misconceptions, that have been blinding most of middle easterners northern africans and fellow asians for centuries of deceit dishonesty cheating and trickery.
    But as it is know to any rational person (it even is a greek saying), only the donkeys do not change the choice or path once shown The Way. I am already A Man Citizen of the World and of God Created Universe; donkeys are all the other one’s that by their mental blindness fed by sick pride continue their stubbornness of following the deceiver with satan or evil help.

    After readings comparisons thoughts and personal decision making, here I post for the WORLD just a few of my reasons (of hundreds others I still could write) why the arab mohammad was a false prophet and why the false koran is sinner-man emanated and not God inspired. I hope this can help anyone in the world to be freed from the darkness of mental blindness and fascism-fanaticism and move into Light. I became a Christian for ever and ever, and I will die with Jesus Christ and God's thoughts in my brain. My blood and my body will be now for ever on His service wherever I will be.

    WAKE UP islam (stop destroying yourselves and the God created Mankind and world) AND RAISE UP IN UNISSON AGAINST ISLAMO-FASCISM! Stop your involution with the devil, and BE CHRISTIAN!
    The arab leader of the 7th century (D.C.) never was and never will be a prophet in the Religious sense of the word.
    The arab mohammad was a criminal in the complete sense of the word:
    (1) he killed by his sword and personally cut the throat to several hundreds (cumulatively, thousands!) of what he considered enemies (just because they were Jews or Christians and did not believe in him, a criminal!)
    (2) he was a hatemonger because hated is enemies and therefore incited his stupid followers to kill and persecute in his false name (it is written in the false quran, reason for which it does not emanate from God; may be from the devil or any pig you want)
    (3) he was not a peacemaker (as Jesus Christ was; as well as MK Gandhi, Dr Livingstone, Pope John Paul II, Mother Theresa of Calcutta, ML King even Nelson Mandela, etc) and in his name and because of this islamo-fascist cult, millions of Christians and Jews were killed murdered or enslaved from the 8th to the 12th centuries, from Syria and Iran to Palestine, to northern Egypt, and northern Africa until Morocco; and the thousands of churches and synagogues these deceivers and un-holly people destroyed because of their mental blindness racism and stubbornness.
    (4) he was a womanger, since he had 10 official wives, 3 concubines and several others non-nominated female slaves
    (5) with the third wife (Aisha) he even was a paedophile by any Human Standards (but not under animal standards) since he consumed the physical act even before her to become a teenager
    (6) he was a male chauvinistic in view of his tremendous and continuous disrespect for women
    (7) he was a liar since he never was a prophet from God, because God does not select for His messenger this type of erratic criminal behaviour (may be he was on service of the devil, but never was on God Holy service)
    (9) he was a falsifier and deceiver, since he recited copied plagiated and forged several parts of the HOLY BIBLE and presented Its Holy contents and ideas in a distorted way, as prepared hoaxes and false ideas only full of biased arab origins (or ordered others to do so, since he was illiterate). The false book koran or quran (that does not have nothing of holy that was not said before) contains distortions of the HOLY BIBLE so it is a falsification forgery and partial adaptation – so much distorted and adjusted to arab local interests and to the reality of the false prophet life and his real sinful existence.
    (10) most of quran contents (above 70%) refer to incitements to killings to destructions violations assault, falsely legalizing for this islamofascist cult anything done to anyone non-muslim, also True God created. So its contents cannot come from God, but solely from the sinner and criminal mohammad and his blind followers (eventually with evil's influence).

  13. D S Dunlap says:

    Yes, but he was a slave who converted only in the hope of getting free. Also, The Bible tolerated slavery, yes, but it does not tell Christians and Jews to go out and acquire people to enslave. Further Much of the Old Testatment is the history of a people, their actions, and how they believe God dealt with them and the rest of mankind.

    Further, Mohammad had a lot to say about black people, and not much of it was good. The comment you make about one of Islam's first converts being black comes from the Meccan period, and the Qur'an itself says that the earlier Suras (meccan) are abrogated by the later ones (medinan). The Sina and Hadith also tell of how Mohammad made his black slave carry much much more than his other slaves, even when his other slaves were lightly loaded. He even went so far as to dehumanize the man and rename him "ship".

  14. D S Dunlap says:

    I wish Mr. Sina would. It might carry more weight, though, if he can find a black ex-Muslim to pen the article. Oh, and iak, "blackie" is not a term you really should use in reference to black people. That's somewhat offensive, too.

  15. Saveworld says:

    Islam=Stupid, Lazy, Rubbish, Problem, Lie,  Barbarian, Dirty, Ugly, Noisy, Crazy, Oppress, Violent, Behead, Horror, War, Boom, Politic, Womanizing, Polygamy, Fanatic, Evil, Terrorist

  16. Ganesh says:

    1. There is no such quote in Athara Veda. This is a lie.
    2. Manusmriti is NOT a Hindu Holy Book nor a scripture. It was written by a Hindu, that's about it.
    3. Hinduism does NOT tell you that you have to follow every word of its holy scripture or you will rot in hell.
    4. Hinduism does not tell you what is right what is wrong – it leaves you to do what you like. In short, it establishes FREE WILL.

  17. John K says:

    1 – The Future of Iraq and the Arabian Peninsula After the Fall of Baghdad

    2 – Crusaders' War

  18. sarthak says:

    dear sir ali sina can u please givr me the name of the book published by Yussuf al-Ayyeri,

  19. Jonathan Harrell says:

    Islam produces the most weakest, poorest, backward, underdeveloped, corrupt nations on the planet. Muslims come to the west for free houses, free health care and medicines, free education and books, free state handouts for their family of +10 kids, free to practice their religion.

    The majority of Islamic nations are on Western foreign aid handouts. Because the West is compassionate, merciful and charitable, unlike Islam.

  20. Sanada_10 says:

    Read this and this.

  21. Juste says:

    Two Logics:
    1. I usually sign up in Islam-loving facebook groups. But not because i love Islam. In fact, i dislike it. I join in so i know how they think. Current issues and everything.
    2. I can sign up to Facebook using Bill Gates as a username. Next, i posted a Bill Gates’s picture as a profile photo. But all that, does not make me Bill Gates.
    If Ali Sina is a terrorist, then i am his accessory. But, there’s a problem with the equation. You see, Ali Sina does not believe in spilling blood. Stated in his letter to humanity. And i adore Ali Sina. I think of him as a somebody. But i never killed for Ali Sina. And certainly Ali Sina never ordered me to kill anyone.
    So, on behalf of Ali Sina, here’s your question back:
    “Are you a terrorist?”

  22. John K says:

    But that's not how real Muslims behave, is it?

  23. Arya Anand says:

    SKhan, can you give a link to facebook page of a genocidal group that Robert Spencer allegedly joined and also that of MEK.

  24. Arya Anand says:

    Muslims take advantage of non-violent good nature of non-Muslims at least in religious matters while like their false prophet Muhammad, they think violence is their preregotive. If this scenario continues, there will come a time when at least a good portion of non-Muslim population in any country will compelled to resort to violence against Muslims the terrorists as a reaction to Muslims' violent and terrorist attacks. A just Jihad of non-Muslims to counter and retaliate against the unjust Jihad of Muslims. In such a situation, Muslims will taste their own medicine.

  25. SKhan says:

    Mr. Sina, I have a question. Are you a terrorist? Because your best buddy, Robert Spencer, joined a genocidal facebook group that supported the destruction of Istanbul? And that Robert Spencer's work was heavily cited by Norwegian Terrorist Anders Brevick? And that Pamela Geller (also your buddy) was cited by Anders Brevick? and that Pamela recieved a genocidal email calling for violence against islam and never reported it? and that Robert Spencer supports the Iranian terrorist organization, MEK? and that YOU were referenced by Anders Brevick? and that the first comment on this article is a violent one, calling for Jihad…er…crusades against Mecca? So, I will repeat my question: Are you a terrorist?

  26. SKhan says:

    Excuse me, Mr. Iak, are you aware that one of the first converts to islam was a black man? And that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in his last sermon said that no black man is better than a white, and no arab is better than a non arab? and that islam is not some sort of monolith with hands and feet? And that the Bible supports violent slavery?

  27. darkfire316 says:

    "But the ego is destined to dissolve, and all its ossified structures, whether they be religious or other institutions, corporations, or governments, will disintegrate from within, no matter how deeply entrenched they appear to be. The most rigid structures, the most impervious to change, will collapse first. This has already happened in the case of Soviet Communism. How deeply entrenched, how solid and monolithic it appeared, and yet within a few years, it disintegrated from within. No one foresaw this. All were taken by surprise. There are many more such surprises in store for us." ~ Eckhart Tolle

    I thought of your message when I heard this Dr. Sina. People will laugh now, but Islam will fall.

  28. Maruf says:

    According to Blaise Pascal (in article we should believe in God. Because if we now believe that there is no God, but after death suddenly found that there is really a God, then no scope to rectify, straight looser. But If we believe in God in this life, then we will be in safe side whether there is God exists or not. So what we have to do is to find out the only true / loving God among the Gods in various religions.

    If Dr. Ali Sina was honest, suppose one of my friends called me, Maruf come out of your home, right then I will asked him where I will live at night? If he could not provide me another home than he has no right to call me come out? My friend should first manage another better home for me if he wants me to leave my current home. But Mr. Sina is not doing that he should have at first come up with a truer / lovelier God comparing to Muslim God before asking Muslims to denounce their faith. But without giving a solution he is offering a problem. This proves that Mr. Ali Sina has something evil hidden in his mind.

    He also suggests that to live ethically this will be enough for you. I am also agree with him in this regard.

    But who will decide the ethics meaning which is bad or which is right?

    Somebody tells, looking to a woman is bad, somebody tells looking is ok but touching is bad, somebody tells shaking and kissing is ok but adultery is bad, somebody tells everything is ok if both agree. Somebody tells Gay is very bad, some tells no it is their right. Some tells to be vegetarian is right , some tells no everything which is permitted can be eaten . Some tells bikini is perfect because it reveals the whole beauty, some tells no- woman should be modestly covered. Doctors say alcohol is harmful but it is permitted in many countries. Some says gambling is bad because it looses man financially, socially but many countries has permitted it. Some says interest is not bad for economy although it can’t resist recession, others tell that Islamic banking is less affected by the recession. A robber says robbery is good because he can earn much money with less effort and enjoy a luxurious life but the victim will say it is crime.

    For these reasons laws of every country differs each other and there is a continuous clash between pro and con.

    So the question is that who will define the good or bad or set limit. It is obviously the God, the Creator. Otherwise every right or wrong i.e. ethics becomes meaningless. So Gods presence/guidance is essential.

    So what is Dr. Sina doing, he is trying to make Muslims ex, without suggesting a more true God/religion for them. He wants to bring them out of home to under the sun, rain, storm, danger. It is inhuman. He is utilizing his brilliancy, literacy for misleading people, for the evil of the society.

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  29. John K says:

    Burn baby burn.

  30. John K says:

    Sidhoum doesn't know enough about the Bible to know what he is reading.

  31. nowfal says:

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  32. Ali Sina says:

    True. Iran will be the first Islamic country that will officially renounce that adjective and denouce Islam as a state religion. This will have a domino effect in all Muslim countries, just as the Islamic revolution had a domono effect.

  33. @sasss31 says:


    As an Iranian and fellow atheist I want to thank you for your dedication in exposing the evils of the Islamic faith. The only positive thing the Islamic Republic has brought us the past 30+ years is to ensure that once this barbaric and primitive regime is gone, Islam has no true future inside of a free and democratic Iran. I spent a considerable amount of time in Iran as of recently and it pleased me to see more and more Iranians refusing to even call themselves Muslim – from the youth to the middle-aged taxi-driver to the elderly – thank you again for exposing the Islamic faith for what it is – an evil and primitive belief. While not all Muslims are terrorists it is no surprise that nearly all terrorists are Muslims. It is no surprise to see true Muslim believers expose their true faith when someone in the west speaks out on Islam and the need for security (such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali due to her film director Theo van Gogh having been slaughtered), be-headings when the quran is burnt or when cartoons are drawn. It is the year 2011 and we must say enough is enough with the excuses for Islamic barbarism. It is time to modernize and civilize if they want to join the free and civilized world and international community.

  34. Seraj says:

    Once again, you fail to point out any logical points but rather points with logical fallacies. Though the fact you call Islam a radical ideology (interpretation of fascism), is in itself enough to make the rest look dumbfound. The pillars of Islam, as portrayed in your offensive picture, are hysteria, denial of reality, thought control, name-calling, projection of guilt. As a challenge from me to you, I challenge you to prove any of these points in the light of the Qur'an and Qur'anic interpretation and methodology. Since your skills are lacking in the Arabic language, as seen when you make some silly translations of words in your "scientific heresies" (see my comment on "Science in the Qur'an", Q&A), you'll be unable to provide any bold evidence to suggest such claims. Other than if you're going to add your own interpretation that believing in a God is hysteria and denial of reality, I would love to see you try and say the Qur'an justifies thought control or provide a Qur'anic verse or interpretation which says Muslims can only seek Islamic knowledge, not question it's realism, and secular affairs are prohibited.

  35. nastika says:

    Polytheist are as violent as monotheists

    Kill enemy,along with his son & wife
    Atharva Veda 10:5:36 With this I here invest the power and splendour, the life of that man and his vital breathing,the son of such a sire and such a woman, here do I overthrow and cast him downward.

    Cut off thieves hands
    Manu 8:322. For (stealing) more than fifty (palas) it is enacted that the hands (of the offender) shall be cut off; but in other cases, let him inflict a fine of eleven times the value.

    Stealing from Vaisyas & Sudras is not a sin
    Manu XI:12 That article (required) for the completion of the sacrifice, may be taken (forcibly) from the house of any Vaisya, who possesses a large number of cattle, (but) neither performs the (minor) sacrifices nor drinks the Soma-juice;
    13.(Or) the (sacrificer) may take at his pleasure two or three (articles required for a sacrifice) from the house of a Sudra; for a Sudra has no business with sacrifices.

  36. nastika says:

    I agree with Sidhoum & Busted Divinity.It's time to expose all ideologies that are inhumane.
    For eg. is Hinduism really a good and tolerant religion?

    The sacred law book of Manu says war booty is legal according to Vedas & women can also be taken as spoils
    ManuVII (96-97). Chariots and horses, elephants, parasols, money, grain, cattle, women, all sorts of (marketable) goods and valueless metals belong to him who takes them (singly) conquering (the possessor).
    A text of the Veda (declares) that (the soldiers) shall present a choice portion (of the booty) to the king; what has not been taken singly, must be distributed by the king among all the soldiers.

    Leave No Survivors
    Atharva Veda 10:1:17 As wind the trees, so smite and overthrow them:leave not cow,horse,or man of them surviving Return,O Krityā,unto those who made thee.Wake them from sleep to find that they are childless.

  37. BustedDivinity. says:


    Sina is right on many issues, but like you, I find it not entirely in accordance with logic to claim that ‘a man who explicitly accepted the old testament as a pious work’ to be a good man.

    Also Jesus did not abolish slavery, how merciful is that? but the greatest conundrum for the ‘Jesus=pacifism’ claimants is the fact that most Christians believe that Jesus is god, this means he authored both the OT and NT and all the massacres therein.

    Back to the topic of the article, Islam needs a rude awakening through mass-deportation, racial profiling, frank talks on mainstream media about Islam and the imposition of strict rules on Muslims by the world consortium, it may not be silenced by such drastic measures, but it will be weakened.

  38. Sidhoum says:

    Dear Sina,
    Was Jesus really a good man?
    "For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." (Matthew 19:12 ASV).
    In one word: cut off your privates before entering heaven.
    "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemies will be those of his household'". (Matthew 10:34-36 NAB)
    In one word: Jesus the prince of war?
    "This is what the Lord of hosts has to say: 'I will punish what Amalek did to Israel when he barred his way as he was coming up from Egypt. Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.'" (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)
    In one word: mass murder.
    You have said that Hitler had good qualities. You may change your thinking about Hitler. Many Christian fundamentalists for the purpose of gaining power are not far from Hitler’s delusion. Just replace Jew with Muslim in the following paragraphs.
    "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter…How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison…" –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
    "The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew." Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
    On one hand you promote the golden rule. On the other hand, you behave like an extremist. You like Sarah Palin and you dislike Obama. That is your right, but you sound like more a FOX TV pseudo-journalist than an honest man who is trying to demonstrate the frauds in Islam. You even advocate that the crusades were right because they were fighting the advance of Islam. Yet, the crusaders slaughtered Jews, orthodox Christians and Muslims, including children and elderly. So where is your golden rule in that?
    Reading your articles and comments, I can summarise your thinking as follows:
    Islam is immoral; but Muslims believe in Islam; therefore, Muslims are immoral.
    I can use the same approach against Christianity and Judaism. Yet, I know it is not fair to do so as there are many interpretations of their holy books, despite my conviction that religion has produced more harm than good in human history. Yet, I love visiting cathedrals and Mosques, although I am atheist. I do believe that there is no god. It is the result of our evolution process that we create this imagery or allegory or hypothesis to make sense of the universe as well as provide comfort in a world of fears. They have been probably more religions than languages since humans stood up.
    I have kids. I cannot understand why kids are being taught a particular religion or any type of ideology, knowing that kids are not equipped intellectually to understand clearly any belief system. I mean as long as Santa Claus remains a fairy tale, we are safe from delusion. I have become Atheist and Vegetarian because of my readings of various writers and thinkers. I would add that Darwin has been the source of my conviction, in spite of being a Muslim descent from hundreds of generations. I respect Islam and Muslims the same way I do for Christians and Christianity, Jews and Judaism, Buddhists and Buddhism, Indus and Induism, etc… I hope they can do the same for Atheists and Atheism, though I am probably naïve. My family have Muslims, Christians and Atheists with so far no extremists with the view that the truth belongs to them. When we debate, we always laugh at ourselves about our own contradictions and never forget that it is only a belief that is subject to change over time.
    Unlike Judaism and many polytheistic religions, Christianity and Islam have an imperialistic view of the world. They only feel comfortable when they expand and convert new members. One of the fundamental differences between Christianity and Islam is time. Islam is still young in comparison to Christianity. I believe that Islam has reached its peak in history. Although there have been cycles with ups and downs in the Islamic civilisation, it will eventually phase out slowly. However, it is wise not to hurt sensibilities by making insults or defamatory statements for sensation purposes and/or search of fame. It will take time, probably 10 generations to see Islam collapsing when the Human Reason triumphs from obscurantism and intolerance.
    Take care my friend!

  39. Arya Anand says:

    This article exposes the true political agenda of Islam and the danger it poses to humanity.

  40. iak says:

    Dear Sina, please write something about how Islam treats and treated black people. Many blackies join this cult out of the simple and naive illusion that Christianity is master's paralysing religion and Islam is class brother's emancipating one. Like virus, the more simple and hate spreading a thought is, the more infectious it can be.

  41. anil Reddy says:


    61:9 “…that He (Muhammad) may make it conqueror of all religion however much idolaters may be averse”
    + 9:33 “…prevail over all religions” 8:39 + 2:193 “…and religion should be only for Allah”

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