What is the Point of Living?

Ali Sina,

I have been reading what you’ve been writing for a long time now. And I do agree with the majority of what you say, especially about logic. Lately I have become a very reason oriented person (this is in general and not due to your site). For about a year now, I have been out of college and been working for a year now. I’m finding out that everything I have been told is a lie. Not all religions are good. Women don’t really want nice guys. An Education won’t necessarily make your life any better. Good doesn’t always conquer evil.

Life is pain. Everything that you love just goes away. And good things that’ll come to you in the future will go away too. If there is no god, then what’s the point? The logical thing to do is to just end your life and save yourself from pain that is to come. What’s the point? Honestly, I don’t see it. I just want to hear your take on it.



Dear M.,

Upon reflecting on what you wrote I ended up agreeing with you. What is the point indeed? I go even one step further and ask:

  • What is the point of finding love when all relationships end, either in death or they break up?
  • What is the point of bringing to the world a child when eventually they will die?
  • What is the point of planting anything when one day they will whither?
  • What is the point of building a house when one day it has to be demolished?
  • What is the point of taking a bath when you’re going to be dirty again?
  • What is the point of eating, when you’ll get hungry a few hours later?
  • In fact what is the point of this earth or this universe when they too will come to an end?

Yes what is the point? And yet, despite all these pointlessnesses, life goes on, people fall in love,  children are born, trees are planted, houses are built, people eat and wash…. and guess what? They also dream, laugh, sing, play, produce art and enjoy life.


Maybe that is the point.  Maybe life is a journey without destination. The only certainty about life’s destination is death. So why hurry? Why go so fast? Why not go through the road of life ambling, enjoy the sceneries, behold the flowers, befriend the fellow travelers, joke with them, have fun and give a hand to those who are tired and limping and make their journey pleasant too?

Yes, most of the things we were told were lies. Every day we discover new things and realize what we knew before was a lie. Up and down, east and west, truth and falsehood, good and bad, are all illusions. Your up is down to someone else. Your east is west to another person, your truth is falsehood to your neighbor and what is good for you can be bad for the next guy. But there is one thing that is not an illusion and that is the fact that we exist.

Descartes concluded that if he could think, he must exist. But we also exist because we love. Love is real and if we can love, it follows that we exist.

Doubt is good. Doubt everything and particularly the commonly held beliefs. Doubt your senses, your beliefs, the science, and even God. But there are some things that are beyond doubt. You cannot doubt love.

If you have ever loved you know that love is real – just like thought. Thoughts are real, even though their content may not be. Love is also real, even though its object may not be.

You feel alive when you love. Love is what makes life meaningful. It encompasses everyone and everything.

The object of your love can be

  • real, like people;
  • lofty, like knowledge and service to humanity;
  • mundane, like power, fame and wealth;
  • or  imagined, like God and religion.

It is not the object of love that matters; it is its exercise that makes you feel alive. To make life meaningful you have to find the love of your life.

One of the most inspiring lives is that of Professor Steven Hawking. He is a theoretical physicist known for his contributions to the fields of cosmology and quantum gravity, especially in the context of black holes. He has also achieved success with works of popular science in which he discusses his own theories and cosmology in general; these include the runaway best seller A Brief History of Time, which stayed on the British Sunday Times  bestsellers list for a record-breaking 237 weeks. Hawking was a professor of mathematics for thirty years. He retired on October, 2009.


Professor Hawking has a neuromuscular dystrophy – a condition that has progressed over the years and has left him almost completely paralyzed.

But Hawking loves life. Why? Because he is passionate about his work! His mind is busy decoding the secrets of the universe.  He has no time to dwell on his handicap. He is not just happy, he is productive and perhaps the greatest mind alive.

On the other hand, there are so many healthy bodied people who find no meaning in life, give in to depression and despair, and often at a young age, end their lives.

What sets Hawking apart? What makes a man condemned to wheelchair that needs assistance for everything, including for his bodily functions; a person who cannot use even his vocal cords and has to communicate through a voice simulator, so alive? And why some healthy people are so worn out and so depleted of life?

The difference is in love. Hawking has a great love in his life. He loves knowledge. He is passionate about learning and poking his nose into the mysteries of the universe. This is what makes life meaningful for him. He wants to live in order to discover and to share his findings with others.

Hawking lives for his passion. He is not an exception. Everyone can find his or her passion and feel the same vitality and zest for life.

Love is the elixir of life. The secret of happiness is that you find the love of your life. “Find your own Calcutta,” Mother Teresa responded to a woman who wanted to join her in ministering to one of India’s most crowded cities.

Suppose you are a tree and pose the same question. What it the point of living for a tree? Its life depends on circumstances that are beyond its control. It can wither in a drought or break in a wind, animals eat its brunches and fire can devour it. It endures cold and heat. At the end it will be either chopped, burned or fall to the ground and eaten by insects. Is there any point to the life of a tree? From the perspective of the tree, there may not be one. But we know better. Trees provide shelter for countless animals, birds nest on them and eat their fruits, bees collect their pollen, insects make home in them and humans built their houses with them.  They provide the oxygen that all living creatures depend on for their lives. We know that trees are invaluable.  Their existence is not pointless at all.  Trees also benefit from others.  Bees pollinate their blossoms. Animals spread their seeds and humans plant them everywhere.  We’re all interconnected.  We all benefit from each other.

Maybe that is the point of living. All humans, all animals, all plants and all insects make this world go round. We depend on others just as others depend on us.  Your parents, your children, your friends, your loved ones, your country and the world depend on you.  The life or the death of one insect may have little impact in the world, but if all insects were to perish, there would be no life on earth.  What is true for insects and for trees, is also true for us humans. The point of living is in sharing our being with others.  It is in giving. Nothing is more joyous than sharing and giving.

We live individually, but we are not alone. We are part of a whole. We are genetically related, not just to each other, but to all living creatures. We are chemically related to the earth and atomically related to the universe.  In this tapestry called existence, we are a pixel.  All pixels are important. The point of their being is to be and to form the picture of life.

In the road of life, there are thorns and thistles. There are cliffs and precipices. There are hardships to overcome. And at times, the journey can become tiresome. But there are also flowers that grow alongside the road. There are beautiful sceneries to see, interesting people to meet and good companions to cherish. The journey can become joyous when you walk in good company, and when you are surrounded by people that you love and who love you. It is also joyous when you have a purpose to live for.

We have been put here without our permission. We don’t know wherefrom we come and whither we go. Since there is no way of knowing, there is no point in asking. It is also foolhardy to believe in fantastic tales of prophet pretenders whose own credibility is dubious and whose outlandish claims are unproven.

Maybe there is nothing but the road! Maybe the journey is all there is.  For all we know, this journey is real. Its origin and destination may not be.  So what is the rush? Why to overrun others? Where do you think you are going so fast? What if the road of life is to nowhere? Why inflict so much pain on ourselves and on others for a fantasy? Why not enjoy the journey instead and make it pleasant for our fellow travelers?

Each one of us can find the love of our life – something that excites us and kindles our passion, that makes us feel alive, and gives purpose to our existence.

The point of life is in living it, not in ending it. Those who tell you otherwise are charlatans and liars. These conmen promise an afterlife and disdain the one we have. They eulogize death and disparage life. They say this life is a testing ground. They lie! This life is a living ground. What test? Test of blind faith? Test of stupidity?  If they are so ignorant of this world, why should we believe in what they say about the next?

The difference between successful people and losers is not in their talent or in their intellect. It is in their love. Successful people are great lovers. It is the greatness of their love, their passion and their dedication that make them great. Not only these people live a life full of joy, they spread joy and they leave joy behind.

Yes, great people die too. But their lives are not pointless. They are immortalized in what they leave behind.

Women want nice guys. But what attracts them first, are tough guys. They are attracted to men who are not needy – men who have a purpose in life and know where they are going. They want someone to lean on and not someone who wants to lean on them.  This is the result of millions of years of evolution. Be a man and women will find you attractive.

Education won’t necessarily make your life better, but it improves the odds drastically.

Good does not always conquer evil, but evil prevails when good people do nothing.

Life becomes a pain if you have nothing to live for. If you find the love of your life, ‘your own Calcutta,’ it can be full of joy.

Life is what you want it to be. You are the architect of your destiny, the designer of your own life. It is up to you to find the point of your life and give meaning to it. Find your Calcuta and experience a life full of joy.


Edit:  In 2013 I started watching videos and reading stories about near death experience. These stories changed my views completely. Now I believe in God and afterlife. I wrote a new article on the same subject, this time taking into account my new understanding.  You can read it here.

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180 Responses

  1. Shirley says:

    God IS that LOVE that wel all search for. He puts that hole in our hearts that does not get filled until we realize that is what the longing is. It is for Jesus to fill up!! There truely is hope for the future when our spirits leave our bodies if we accept this by faith. Faith is believing in something we can't see with our natural eyes. Read Jesus word how he prayed for us before he decended into heaven. He talked about those of us who did not see him in person, but believe on him. The Bible is the Greatest Book in the world. God Breathed!!! THERE IS HOPE!!!!

  2. DPhysicist says:

    Allah Sux 😛 😀 Muhammad too… 🙂

  3. DPhysicist says:

    I believe that the concept of God is a desperate attempt to undo death, and trying to think that we will live on and on forever, moreover they add the concept of Heaven but it is nothing but wishful thinking. So far so good but the things goes wrong when you are imposing your God onto others. Death for me is an end, I don't have any illusions of eternal bliss in heaven. And once I am dead how does it matters what I thought and believed?? Till I meet my end I will keep on enjoying my life, and its not bed of roses all the way, but I will strive my way… and accept with open arms what ever comes. And help others… my life is heaven and hell right here I don't need another one.

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  5. lima says:

    It is so deep and inspiring. I wish I could share it to my students but dare not to quote your name.

  6. Sanada_10 says:

    I doubt that because … come on, I know you didn’t read it, are you embarrassed?

  7. Agracean says:

    It's about my dear pet calf, Sanada_10! xD

  8. Sanada_10 says:

    Of course I'm sure. You just responded any post with balls. That must means something.

    Nope, why should I be embarassed? You never know me. I know this is about someone else. Come on, who is it?

  9. Sanada_10 says:

    Wow, the obsession is so strong. What kind of trauma you had had? 😉

  10. Sanada_10 says:

    Ah, you admitted that the ball created so many trauma for you and you wanted to cut it. The problem is that you are doing a muslim mentality by cutting all things you dislike. Try to wake up and destroy this phobia.

    I'm very interested to know whose ball is that. I mean, real ball that made you to give a specific description about it. Someone in your life maybe?

  11. Agracean says:

    Are you sure that I'm 'missing the point', my dear pet calf, Sanada_10? Or is it true that you're embarassed about my joking about your hairy balls? :*

  12. Agracean says:

    Oh, my dear pet calf, Sanada_10, don't you know that your hairy balls created a lot of trouble in the past? That's why I've to do all the cows a big favor and that is to castrate you for good! Do you think that this is really 'fun'? <3

  13. Sanada_10 says:

    You are missing point again, grace. I said that I never did what you just had said. You are seriously have the trouble processing sentences. :*

  14. Sanada_10 says:

    Now, you want to be a surgeon. Soon you’ll get black list because of that. No need to throw your frustration on me just because some hairy balls did bad thing to you in the past. Seriously, you are addicted to balls. I wonder what kind of past you had. It must be really “fun”. <3

  15. Agracean says:

    Oh, Mr Sanada_10, are you really a man or not? Don't you know that your big hairy balls contain both X and Y sperms and they are your sperm banks? Do you need me to show you which one is X sperm bank and Y sperm bank? :p

  16. Agracean says:

    Hello, Sanada-10, my dear pet calf, since you love your hairy balls so much, let me perform a minor surgery to sew back your this sperm bank to it's original place for you and I think that you must be extremely happy that you are officially a man now. xD

  17. Sanada_10 says:

    Funny, I never donate to any bank like that. Are you sure you are not mistaken? Maybe it’s your biggest fear that donated it. Scary…


  18. Sanada_10 says:

    Wow, you must be hallucinating. Maybe it’s the same with empty love you have to someone here, thinking non existent thing as real. On the contrary, it’s your “gut/ball” that is in my hand. You keep running from my questions and insulting me. That’s a good way to admit defeat.

  19. Sanada_10 says:

    I never lost anything, grace. It’s you who are constantly run from me. That’s the fact. You can’t answer the truth with hatred and phobia. I hope you learn that.

    I see you have a certain urge to make men lose their manhood. Hmm … I wonder what had happened in the past, reverse pattern maybe?


  20. Agracean says:

    Yeah, it's not pretty to always hold your hairy balls in my lovely hands, so maybe you'll like to suggest how should I handle your balls and also your long John? Do you want them back for good? xD

  21. Agracean says:

    Well, my sweet pet calf, Sanada_10, I do consider the moment that you lost all your manliness and sacred private parts a great damage to me and I'm trying very hard to overcome the fact that your bottom is empty like me and wonder how do you face your calf friends since you don't cover your bottom? xD

  22. Agracean says:

    Do you know why I have to castrate you, my dear pet calf? I hope that after losing your super hairy balls, you;ll start to behave like a real good gentleman. I pity you that not only have you lost your hairy balls but also, your long John due to my mistake of over cutting! xD

  23. Agracean says:

    Yeah, I've double checked that your sperm bank is right here in my hands and they are hairy. Oops! 😮

  24. Sanada_10 says:

    Nope again, grace. You obviously had some issue with hairy balls and that’s not pretty. I understand that phobia is difficult to erase but try to forget what hairy balls did to you in the past.

    It is the greatest misery in your life, I know.

  25. Sanada_10 says:

    Sure, the pet did some damage to you. Try to overcome it, ok. :S

  26. Sanada_10 says:

    Obsessed with cutting hairy balls all the time means something…. xD.

    Pity you.

  27. Sanada_10 says:

    Your own post, miss hairyballophobia. Double check it before complaining. :p

  28. Agracean says:

    GS? I didn't lost you but I lost your hairy balls!!! :'( xD

  29. Agracean says:

    Yeah, I had a terrible experience castrating my dear pet calf, Sanada_10's hairy balls. Instead of cutting his huge hairy balls, I accidentally cut off his long John and because of this single mistake, my dear Sanada_10, became a peniless calf and this is the greatest regret in my whole life. xD

  30. Agracean says:

    Oh, Mr Sanada_10, how do you know that I hate your hairy balls? It seems like you have really lost your balls to a Good Samaritan like me. Do you want your big hairy balls back? :p

  31. Agracean says:

    Mr Sanada_10, who told you that I don't understand the yin yang concept? Is it your hairy balls? xD

  32. John K says:

    Okay. I got it now…


  33. Sanada_10 says:

    Too bad, she's not GS but BHS, ball hater samaritan. :p

  34. Sanada_10 says:

    Oh, must be someone else because I never know you nor I ever see any woman that is so adamant on cutting balls. That woman must had a terrible experience with it.

    Ouch, I offer my condolence to your hairy ball experience. I know, something doesn’t always happen in a good way or like we expected but try to get up and forget your hatred to the balls. It’s not good to ponder on this empty and irrational fear, ballophobia.

    I imagine that good Samaritan (GS) said, “O Jew, I’ll castrate you”. That’s not a GS but a ball hater Samaritan (BHS).

    No offence to the real Samaritan…

  35. John K says:

    GS? Now you've lost me! :S

  36. Agracean says:

    Oh, Mr Sanada_10, don't you know that you, my dear pet calf, is the one and only pet I ever keep in my entire life? And you are turning into a bull soon. So, I decided to castrate you and turn you into an ox, so that you'll be a good pet. XD

  37. Sanada_10 says:

    Oh, that means you don’t understand the yin yang concept. It has nothing to do with color or race so try not to use PC term. :p

  38. Agracean says:

    Black and white sounds like racism. Aren't we Good Samaritans and that's the similarity between us, except that our bottom is totally different. 😮

  39. Sanada_10 says:

    So, you have a pet and that pet is causing you this kind of hairyballophobia. Wow, that pet is a mean one.

    Not me, grace. I never know any woman who has this irrational fear and keeps mentioning it like she had a trauma with it.

  40. Sanada_10 says:

    Yeah, I’m the white GS and you are the black GS. Yin and Yang..….;)

  41. Agracean says:

    Don't you know that you are my pet and I personally castrate your hairy balls? xD

  42. Agracean says:

    Mr Sanada_10, that means that there's no difference between us at all! xD

  43. Sanada_10 says:

    See? I'm a fair and a true good samaritan. 😀

  44. Agracean says:

    I think that my dear pet calf is totally embarassed when I mentioned his hairy balls here. xD

  45. Sanada_10 says:

    Nope, I see you have an illusion of everyone being jealous of you and him. That’s sickness you know. Wait a minute, you keep mentioning hairy balls. Do you have negative experience with that? Hm, a hairy ball’o’phobia… interesting… Seriously, no one will describe that thing in detail unless they have experience about it. Don’t tell me.…

  46. Agracean says:

    Are you jealous that I love the 'he' more than you, my dear pet calf? xD
    Anyway, you'll be happy to know that you'll always be my sweet pet calf because I've personally castrated you, and oh, what a memorable experience! <3

  47. Sanada_10 says:

    Hm, I too understand how a broken heart feels like but I don't think it could make you distorted to reality like this. Yeah, not many men coz they disliked you and your behavior, it's obvious right? Just look at "the" him.

  48. Agracean says:

    Oh, how could you say that I'm insulting you? Don't you know that it's an honor to loose your hairy balls to me? Not many men have that privilege, except you, my dear pet calf. xD

    Who is the 'he' that you are referring to? Is it my beloved… <3

  49. Sanada_10 says:

    Oh, I understand your frustration in love but there is no use on insulting me for it.

    I wonder how can any man stand with abusive "samaritan" like you? :p

    No wonder he …. <3

  50. Agracean says:

    I thought that you, my dear pet calf, longs for me to castrate you? Seriously, I will comfort you with some happy condolences after I've successfully removed your sperm bank. xD

  51. Sanada_10 says:

    Is that how the Good Samaritan behaves? Hm…. Must be due to bad translation…

    Seriously, I offer you some condolence here.

  52. Agracean says:

    Thanks for cheering me up with your <3. Open up your hairy legs…It's time for castration! xD

  53. Sanada_10 says:

    You just "clapped with one hand" so I wanted to cheer you up. <3

  54. Agracean says:

    Mr Sanada_10, what does your <3 means? :p

  55. Sanada_10 says:

    Yours, grace. Fact says so. <3

  56. Agracean says:

    Alright, Dr Ali Sina, since you're the host of this site, I've got to respect your wish and be selfish and hardened my heart and watch our dear neighbour, Mormon John K, continue to take side with the devil and live satan's lies till the day he say goodbye to everybody here. So, John K, let me hereby declare before Dr Ali Sina, that I officially wash my hands off your this business of believing in the religion of lies(Mormonism) and shake the dust off my foot since you don't appreciate my kindness in showing you the Way, the Truth and the Life. Last but not least, I wish you all the best in coming to your senses soon, to worship the true living God, in Spirit and in truth and not all kinds of weird lies. God bless.

  57. Ali Sina says:

    This site is not about Mormon faith or any other faith. You expose the lies of other religions in other forums. This site is only for discussion about Islam.

  58. Agracean says:

    Sometimes, it's very difficult to be a Good Samaritan but I guess that I've gone a bit overboard in the sense that since he don't appreciate it, I should have stop there and then. But the truth is that I just can't bear to watch him waste his life in ther religion of lies.

    Many years ago, I've gone through a similar experience with a good friend of mine, who stubbornly refused to heed all my warnings and good advice and in the end, he lost a huge part of my investments to some intelligent crooks. That was the worst period in my life and after I've come out of it, I've learnt the skill to try my very best to help all my neighbours not to fall prey to any deceitful lies again.

  59. Agracean says:

    Dear Dr Ali Sina, do you think that I like to 'insult' John K here and put myself in the bad light? The truth is that I do seriously treasure my friendship with him. As a Good Samaritan, it goes against my conscience not to help him to the ultimate truth. As you read all our exchanges, you'll realized that I've exposed so many lies found in his Mormon book with Biblical truth. But the sad truth is that he is still as blind and stubborn as before and refused to face the truth that Joseph Smith was a false prophet. In my anger, I called him a dumb dumb.

  60. Ali Sina says:

    Why do you have this need to insult people?

  61. Agracean says:

    John K, you know that I've always been true to you and love and respect a good friend like you but not Mormonism or any false prophet. But I guess that I've gone over the limit of what a good Samaritan should do. Maybe, I should stop being a busy body and stop pouring truth into your Mormon head for once and mind my own profitable business and let you forever live in satan's lies and wash my hands off you and shake the dust off my foot. So, you'll be glad to know that from now onwards, I won't compare you with a 'dumb dumb' anymore and I won't remind you all of Joseph Smith's lies but let you partake his lies in 'peace' 'happily' ever after.

  62. John K says:

    This post appears at the top of this thread:

    "Ali Sina · 29 weeks ago

    Please do not call those with whom you disagree names. Respect other posters. You don't have to agree with them but please do not insult them."

    I suggest you follow these instructions.

    I'm through talking with you.

  63. Agracean says:

    Mr Sanada_10, where's your twin? xD

  64. Agracean says:

    Oh, my dear Mormon professional dummy, John K, why are you behaving exactly like Muhammad ibn Abdullah and his followers, when I exposed the lies he concorted? Must you wait until the day you die, then you'll realized that I'm a Good Samaritan and you're a dumb dumb? :p

  65. Sanada_10 says:

    Great, another personal attack when unable to answer me. :p

    That's all? xD

  66. Sanada_10 says:

    The twin mission. :p

  67. John K says:


    "deceitful lies"

    "victim of lies"

    These are all rude, condescending, disrespectful, inconsiderate and supremacist words.

  68. Agracean says:

    Oh, my dear Mormon John K, when you need to save someone from drowning in the raging sea of deceitful lies, you won't bother about how people think of you and such formalities, right? All you care is how to pull that victim of lies to the safe shore. So, likewise, a Good Samaritan like me, don't bother about how others or you think about me. My purpose and goal is to help you out of the sea of lies and to the safe shore of truth. So, please stop crucifying me for my excellent attitude here towards you and I would appreciate if you could hug and kiss me for all that I've done for you here. 😉

  69. Agracean says:

    Er, Mr Sanada_10, which calf told you that I'm looking at you? Don't you know that I'm going to castrate you soon, my dear pet calf, Sanada_10? 😉

  70. John K says:

    Of course expecting you to change your ways and develop some civil decency, human respect and consideration would be too much to expect.

  71. Agracean says:

    Thanks, Mr Sanada_10. B)

  72. Agracean says:

    Mr Mormon John K, like what I said so many times before, if you really want to know whether I'm a humble and truthful Good Samaritan or not and whether you are a victim of Mormon lies who always misunderstood my kindness and truthfulness or not, kindly ask my dear Dr Ali Sina for his truthful advice. I believe that he will be the best professional pyschologist in the whole wide world to tell you the truth that you are a victim who fall prey to Joseph Smith's lies and you are currently in the defensive mode whenever I expose all the Mormon lies with Biblical truth.

  73. John K says:

    See? Great cover, isn't it? 😉

  74. Sanada_10 says:

    I doubt that, no muslim dares to insult Muhammad like her. :p

  75. John K says:

    You just can't stop acting in a condescending manner like a Muslim supremacist, can you? Are you sure you are not a Muslim impersonating a Christian?

  76. Sanada_10 says:

    Ah, at least you got it right just this once about me knowing Islam well. To know Islam you just have to read the information available, you don't have to be muslim. The only difference is the faith, the info is the same.

    Er, look at the readers, grace. Don't look at me, I'm not the one who got irritated by you.

  77. Agracean says:

    Hi Ria, thanks for your kind encouragements. OK, I'll try my very best to plant as much seeds here as I could. 🙂

  78. Agracean says:

    Alright, my dear Mormon John K, I agree with Ria that I should stop knocking truth into your coconut head since you don't appreciate my kindness and you stubbornly refused to wean off from Joseph Smith's 'breastmilk of lies'. So, it's good that I leave you alone here, to continue to suck the milk of deceitful lies from Mormonism till you get sick of it eventually. Aren't you happy now, my dear big Mormon baby, John K? xD

  79. John K says:

    Very well said Ria.

  80. Ria says:

    TYPO "PS- I don't ban yourself from the website. …."

    I mean -I don't want you to ban yourself from this website.

  81. Ria says:

    Hi Grace I am not position to judge any ones faith, except the faith that will harm my neighbor or me and my family eventually. I honestly believe that anyone who call's upon the name of Lord Jesus will be saved. I also understand no matter how true the truth is, knocking someone over the head will it will not change someone. John and Mr Sina and so many others even the Muslims in the site are well learned and well informed about the position of the Bible and it's exclusive claim. They should be able to make that judgment for themselves. And Yes as you said I too would be concerned for unsaved souls, but my position is different than yours. I could pray for them, and plant a seed. Someone else will water it but God will make it grow. And believe me from your post I see you a doing great job in planting the seed. God's word will not return empty.

    PS- I don't ban yourself from the website.

  82. John K says:

    Knock off the arrogance Grace.

  83. John K says:

    Thanks. I have often said that we would not have won the war against the Nazis if the British, French, Americans, etc were constantly at each others throats. We need an alliance of all religions, humanists, and atheists together in mutual respect against the threat of Islam. One of the things I admire about Dr. Sina is that he not only respects Christianity, but also respects all religions who believe in anything but Islam even though he himself is an atheist or agnostic.

  84. Agracean says:

    Hi Ria, I agree with you that irregardless of our different beliefs, we all should work together in unity with Dr Ali Sina to help all those braindead zombies out of the Islamic sinkhole. That's the goal of this site. But the blatant truth is that life is short and unpredictable, just like a flower quickly fading, here today and gone tomorrow.

    So, let's not take life for granted, for I believe that like me, you'll wish to enter into eternity with no regrets but to see all our dear precious friends here come to the ultimate realization of the absolute truth that they need the Lord and that salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved except the name of Jesus, in this end times.

  85. Agracean says:

    Oh, my dear Mormon John K, Dr Ali Sina did mention that he find our discussion on Mormonism quite interesting but because this site is to debunk Islam and its lies, so he requested me to set my focus and effort on Islam, so as to expose all the lies found in this religion of lies.

    But as a good Samaritan who always uphold the golden rule, I can't bear to see a gullible professional Mormon dummy like you perish in the sea of lies. So I took the risk here and make a U-turn to offer my most truthful and sincere words of advice, to save you from the raging sea of lies.

    Don't you ever know that a civilized human being like me always respect differences of opinion but not all kinds of silly lies in a civilized society? So, kindly stop accusing me of being arrogant for telling the naked truth here. Have you ever checked your attitude if you're arrogant and prideful to admit that you've got fooled by Joseph Smith when I openly exposed all the horrible lies from the book of mormon and show you the truth from the KJV Bible?

    Please humble your good self and seek Dr Ali Sina for help , to check if I'm telling the stark truth. B)

  86. Ria says:

    Mormon or Hinduism is not the issue here, so I agree with John not to debate on other things that will lead us away from the main goal of bringing people out of the hell fire of Islam. So we can be united in our goal only for that reason. " Unity is not found in uniformity". I call upon Hindus, Christians, Jews, Ex-Muslims, Atheist etc let stand against Islam and rescue people one at a tine and sort our difference some other time some place else. Hats of to Mr Sina and so many others like him. I just wanted to show our support and be an encouragement for the great work he is doing.

  87. John K says:

    According to your opinion!

    How is it that I have read the Bible and the Book of Mormon and find them to be in harmony while you have found them not to be?

    Could it possibly be because I understand both better than you?

    Civilized people call this a difference of opinion. In your arrogance, you call it you are right and I am wrong. You need to learn how to live in civilized society and respect differences of opinion with other people.

    Dr. Sina has asked us not to discuss the Mormon issue on this site, and I have told you that I am not going to debate this with you, so you can stop this right here and now.

  88. Agracean says:

    The Bible is the standard and the measure I used to expose all the lies found in your book of mormon and also, all of Joseph Smith's false teachings and claims!

    See, Mormon John K, you are just another liar like the founder of Mormonism! Please read John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the FATHER OF LIES.

    Joseph Smith copied this Bible verse and paste it in the book of mormon and you have the cheek to say that this 'father of lies' appears only in the book of mormon! That's exactly what that despicable false prophet, Muhammad ibn Abdullah did! :@

  89. John K says:

    And who appointed you the arbiter to decide what is truth and what are lies?

    By the way, you know you just quoted the Book of Mormon. The term, "father of lies", appears only in the Book of Mormon, not the Bible. But that's okay. Billy Graham was known to lift sermons from the Book of Mormon too, so you are in good company.

  90. Agracean says:

    Mr John K, the blatant truth is that truth will never reach an agreement with lies. So, are you taking side with my loving Creator God or Joseph Smith who belong to the father of lies?

  91. John K says:

    "You just used one person to generalize all Christians."

    Thanks Sanada. Certainly Grace as one person is not a sufficient sampling to judge even her own sect, let alone stand as representative of all Christendom.

  92. Agracean says:

    Yes, Mr Sanada_10, previously, I thought that you are a Muslim since you know Islam and the Quran so well but it is your mistake to say that your twin is my twin. In your mind, you think that I'm stupid, eh Sanada_10? Another proof is the readers here. :p

  93. Sanada_10 says:

    Oh, was it your mistake about me being an ex muslim and she's too? In your mind, everything is backward, eh grace?

    Another proof is the readers here.

  94. Agracean says:

    Have you forgotten the fact that last time, I've already corrected your mistake? So, for goodness sake, please kiss and embrace your twin, my dear pet calf, Sanada_10, since you miss your twin, Mr Abdullah ihsan, so much. xD

  95. Sanada_10 says:

    Last time I check it was you who made mistake about that and the proof is also with me. :p

  96. Agracean says:

    Mr Sanada_10, so, it's true that you've got a twin here whose name is Mr Abdullah ihsan. xD

  97. Agracean says:

    Mr Mormon John K, when in the world did I ever say that I'm the only one who is mature? Those immature human beings are the ones who like to use threats to achieve what they desire. I don't see myself in any wrong for speaking and sharing the absolute truth here. Don't you know that I've been trying to help you see that Joseph Smith was a false prophet and you're simply too stubborn to admit it.

  98. Sanada_10 says:

    Little correction, Muhammad didn't use logic when describing god, he used whatever existed at that time. You can easily take out any verse and prove it.

  99. Sanada_10 says:


    I see nothing worse than Islam here and how the muslims react. You just used one person to generalize all Christians. All you have to do is simple, bring another example of person like her. I can easily say the same thing about one muslim here who is very comparable to her. I call it her twin.

  100. John K says:

    Grace, you always come back with this immature response. Why is it that everyone else is immature and you are the only one who is mature?

    A lot of people have been trying to help you, but you are too stubborn to see it.

  101. Agracean says:

    Dear Dr Ali Sina, I'm sorry that my blatant truthful comments here have caused so much unhappiness to your reader, especially Mr rajesh, who threaten not to return here if you did nothing to stop me from telling the truth. So, I think that the best solution for you to satisfy this group of immature readers is to get Harrel to ban me forever from entering your sites, instead of ignoring my comments, which are an eyesore to them. They will be very happy, including Harrel, if you could ban me and delete all my comments here. Last but not least, don't bother to reply my recent email to you. Thanks for tolerating my nonsense for so long. God bless.

  102. Ali Sina says:

    Sure. Go ahead and quote me. You can say “someone whom I can’t name wrote…” LOL

    Isn’t it a tragedy one cannot even quote someone?

  103. lima says:

    I love your thought here. it is really inspiring, especially for youngsters who feel empty in their life. May I quote your ideas here and put it on my fb, but I dare not to quote your name. I live in Indonesia and you know how difficult my life will be if they know I quote something from you. What should I do

  104. Ali Sina says:

    I think you sould ignore reading her comments, just as I do.

  105. enlightened25 says:

    Who cares what she or anyone else says even if its stupid. Freedom of speech is the most important thing, on many other websites you can be banned for insulting religion and other stupid reasons, on this one you say what you want and thats what makes it better than most.

  106. rajesh says:

    Dear Ali Sina,
    Do something to stop -Agracean- or we will stop entering your site. I hope if she was a muslim you would have been forced to wind up your site and go home. I think mulims are far more nice people than these kinds, as muslims don’t kill us cell by cell & tissue by tissue. They do the job within the fractions of a second. If they can’t refute or argue or can’t find any logical answers they will just threaten us and curse us and get away. I used to think why Islam is growing faster than Christianity even though the latter being comparitively peaceful. Now I understand that christianity is nothing but all those bullshit stuff posted by dear -Agracean- throughout your site. Ali, just think if a muslim is enlightened after your efforts & if he wants an alternative, naturally he will go for Christianity because of its popularity & if he accidently goes through these bullshit stuff he will go back to his old religion & our mission to wipe out islam from the globe will be like using fire to avoid heat. So, my humble request to you is please don’t entertain these type of comments in your site which are absurd & illogical.
    Dear Sina, below I will show a typical -Agracean- arguement
    If we post a question like for eg. If E=mc2 & F=ma, then what is my age?
    Her instant answer: you are 44 years old?
    Ques: Wrong! How did you get this answer?
    Her answer: Because Jesus is the son of God & he is very pure.
    What shall we do with her? Dear Ali, please tell.

  107. Agracean says:

    Mr rajesh, the wise man is the one who confesses that God does exist and he is a created being whereas a fool says in heart that there is no God and that he is an accident due to the big bang and that his first ancestors were apes and so, he behave and live like an ape all his life on planet earth. xD

  108. Agracean says:

    Mr rajesh, the truth is that Muhammad ibn Abdullah was a despicable false prophet who has cheated, fooled, lied, murdered, raped, robbed and killed so many innocent human beings while he was walking on planet earth. Not only that, he also deceived and bound all his gullible followers, namely the Muslims and Muslimahs, in the world ever since the establishment of Islam as a religion, with his many lies and deceptions, all found in the Quran, especially the part about my beloved Lord Jesus Christ. It's time for you to wake up and know the truth and may the truth set you free. 🙂

  109. Agracean says:

    Mr rajesh, it's time that you should stop pushing all the blame to my loving Creator God and take responsibility for your choice, words and actions because you are accountable to Him, for He is your loving Creator God and He has personally come down from Heaven and condescended to be a man like one of us, to be our great Redeemer and sin bearer and to die on the cross for the penalty of our sins, and rose again on the third day, so that we are justified and stand righteous before God. This is what God's unconditional love is all about.

  110. Agracean says:

    So, if a group of students behaved like gangsters in school were caught repeatedly by the teachers, for fighting and extortion of money from those younger pupils. As the school principal, do you think that you can just let them off everytime when they are caught, without enforcing any disciplinary measures to deter them from repeating the same mistake again? Do you think that the loving and kind school principal should be loving all the time at all cost and forget all about those school rules and not be serious with those wayward kids? Do you think that all the pupils in the school will respect such a irresponsible joker principal?

  111. Agracean says:

    Hi Mr rajesh, it doesn't matter if you believe Jesus is the Son of God or not because the truth is that He is the Son of God and He is also the Son of man. Please read Isaiah 53 and you'll understand who the prophet Isaiah was referring to. Mr rajesh, are you a man? Do you ever have sexual intercourse with a woman? Can you tell me what 'sexual relationship' is all about before I answer your baseless accusation.

    Mr rajesh, please be informed that my loving Creator God is Love but He is also a perfect, righteous, holy and just God. He loves all His creations but He must also maintain holiness, righteousness and justice according to His perfect Godly principles.
    Let's imagine that planet earth is like a school. I believe that every school principal will set school rules for all the pupils to follow and also appoint a counsellor and a discipline master to ensure orderliness in the school, right?

  112. rajesh says:

    If someone says, sun rises in the morning & sets in the evening. The other one says, no, the sun rises in the east & sets in the west. Now tell me, who is the wise & who is the fool? Also how?

  113. rajesh says:

    Just as muslims claim, Muhammed is a prophet. You claim Jesus is the son of God. Use your brain dear. Is there anything in bible where Jesus claims that he is going to be prosecuted for the sins of mankind & you will be saved because of that. First of all it is a blasphemy to convey human attributes to God, like what Muhammed did. You are pointing that he had sexual relationship with his own creation. Ha ha what a logic! Let us assume that it is true, then what is the need for the Almighty to torture his only son so badly to save mankind from hell. By this claim you say that God himself is under the control of certain laws that even he can not do anything by his own will. And if you say, so is God’s plan to save us, then what will happen to the millions who died before Jesus who never saw him. There is no need for all these drama. If your God was so loving he should have put all mankind & other living beings straight away in heaven rather than sending us to earth to suffer & suffer & suffer. Your God is really unjust. Maybe Muhammed was a cruel despot but he used some logics to describe God. Jesus was a good human being with all humanly attributes, thats all about him, you christians claim so much divinity to him. Muslims are brainwashed zombies & Christians are braindead zombies.

  114. LORRAINE says:

    Frankie, M and Ali, thank you all for the concern of life. Both Frankie and M you make a good point why bother? What I know is this as Ali stated in his response is we need love and we have to find others who need love and we give it. If you see someone who is cripple and down or out on a limb help to make his or her world a better one if only for a moment this is love. Now we have to spread it regardless of anyone's misfortunes, their race, or religion people need to bond and when we do we grow a strenght that helps us to cope with the hard things in life. My dream is that we all as humans put down the cell phones get out of the televisions and we live and spend time with one another more. Feed each other hug each other cloth listen play house each other and plant things together build things together for those who need it and they us. This way when we loose something or someone we will all still have one another sharing and caring and thanks uncle Steve for all you have given us and shared see that is how easy it is. Thank you all too Frankie, M and Ali your comments were a blast. If only my dream was happening right now!!! In time things will change.
    Ali Sina.org

  115. knowTheEnemy says:

    Bulley Shah was a great poet, but from the contents of his writings it is clear that he was 'muslim' in name only, not by belief.

  116. knowTheEnemy says:

    For those interested, here is a link to the youtube song by Rabbi Shergill

    [youtube pTxZy32Fv_0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTxZy32Fv_0 youtube]

  117. knowTheEnemy says:

    A slightly complex lyrics to unwind is " Bulley! to me, I am not known". What he means is that the Self does not have any worldly identity. The identity 'Bulleh' is of this world, and therefore not the identity of the Self. The Self (atmaan) has no name. It simply is (exists).

    Bulleh Shah reveals in the last paragraph that Self alone exists. "I am the first, I am the last. [Here the Self is speaking as I ]. None other have I ever known. I am the wisest of them all. Bulla, do I stand alone". You will realize too from reading this para, that the Self is revealing itself to be none other than the Supreme Self (God).

    Now if you read the poem again, you will realize that it not Bulleh who is reciting it to someone, but it is the Self who is reciting the poem TO Bulleh Shah. Such creative genius. Now each and every line in the poem makes sense, doesn't it? …..(contd)

  118. knowTheEnemy says:

    According to the Upanishads, there is Brahman (Supreme Self) and there is Self (soul). Self (Atmaan) alone is 'real' and is not different at all from the Supreme Self (Parmatmaan). This is how the followers of this interpretation 'understand' God. Everything other than the Self is unreal. Bulleh Shah composed this spiritual song to get this point across. This world, and everything in this world is unreal (maya or illusion). So Bulleh says that the Self is neither muslim, nor hindu, pagan, jewish or of the paraohs, for these labels are of this world and therefore they are unreal and don't constitute the identity of Self in any way. Neither pure nor impure for the same reason. Neither holy nor drunkard (unholy), and so on. He even says "Secrets of religion, I have not known", because religion and its secrets too are part of this world, therefore they are unreal…(contd)

  119. knowTheEnemy says:

    Hello Khader, I am a punjabi too. I too have listened to this poem by Bulleh Shah, sung by Rabbi Shergill. I disagree that Bulleh was a atheist. His view of God was very particular. During Bulleh's time there was this particular philosophical outlook that was popular in northwest India, and was subscribed to by saint Kabir, Guru Nanak, many Hindus, and many Sufis. Bulleh was one such sufi.

    This pholosophy first originated from the Hindu Upanishads. I must say that your translation of the poem is very precise. It will be helpful in explaining what Bulleh is trying to convey. Notice that on the one hand he appears to be denying his existence. On the other hand, in the last para, he not only acknowledges that he exists, he gives himself same attributes as that of God. How do you make sense of that? If Bulley doesn't exist, then who is he talking about when he says "I am the first, I am the last……….Bulley! do I stand alone?" That is answered in the Upanishads…(contd)

  120. Light says:

    It was another wonderful gift from you,Mr.Sina. It will be sincerely preserved. Thanks.

  121. Neel says:

    those who say they dont believe in God are the biggest liars check ur self when ever u r in trouble or u have fears u r in pain or ur loved ones dying in front of u or in any danger ur heart is praying to Someone calling to Some one for help that Some one is GOD .

  122. fifo says:

    On March 29th 2011 , was created site for the counting of Bulgarians abroad. SSL certificate is installed and your data will be protected. Only safe link is Bulgarians

  123. Hakan says:

    a brilliant article mr sina even though i believe in an orchestrated begining and a destined life after its ending

  124. johan says:

    Life is empty. When we eat bread and drink water heart beats: and we exist. We need to add meaning to our life. Jesus washed the feet of his disciples. Mother Theresa carried the dying lepers at the roadside in Calcutta. The followers of Jesus built millions of schools,hospitals, orphanages, home for the aged, and stood for human rights around the world. These give some meaning to life which make the world a better place to live in.

  125. everin says:

    Aggression, if u stay in a haunted house with yr crucifix n yr bible for protection. The crucifix will start flying n hit yr eye for not seeing the truth. The bible will be sent flying n bang yr head for being such a gullible fool to make a DEAD JESUS yr God. It is simply idolatry to make a dead man yr God. THE HOLLY SPIRIT IS NOT PLEASED.

  126. Sanada_10 says:

    I don't think she will change her attitude. She even repeated her old arguments again and again blindly.

  127. prabhu says:

    that sufi is realy great and fallow him ur life will be full of joy. all sufi and saint are similar in their nature. what he said similar to maharashi raman. u donot believe any religion and god i donot worry. wat u found that man is realy gem donot loose it be with as much as posssible. one more thing i donot know that sufi but words it self is from egoless man. but jesus said i am the path wat a ego. he make all men fool saying u donot wat are u doing once again such full ego. that man is living legend

  128. Johan says:

    A fool says in his heart that there is no God, and wise announce it to the world!!!!!

  129. smart thinking says:


  130. John K says:

    The main thing to recognize is that you are a unique individual with your unique reasons for believing the things you do. What you must do is recognize that others are also unique individuals with reasons for believing the things they do.

    The civil social contract calls for respecting others for their beliefs. This is the contract that Islamic supremacism breaks, so it is all the more important that we not be like them and break that contract ourselves.

  131. Agracean says:

    Yes, Dr Ali Sina, you're absolutely right to say that I shouldn't be too frank and truthful with the meaning of fool here and I, hereby, take this golden opportunity to apologise to you and all those human beings here whom I've offended by calling them fools and most importantly, for hurting their pride and sensitivity.

    As for those human beings ie. Mr Khader Mohideen, Mr Charlee, etc who have insulted me by calling me a psychopath, idiot, etc, I'll like to let them know that I truly forgive them and I do love them too.

    Don't worry, Dr Ali Sina, since you don't appreciate my deep respect and admirations for a great man like you and the fact that you're so angry and pissed off with me over such minor issues, you'll be pleased to know that from now onwards, I won't name or call you my hero, father or a fool anymore neither will I offend you any further with my most sincere comments here. Please do rest assure that I definitely will keep my words for sure. God Bless.

  132. Ali Sina says:

    Please do not call those with whom you disagree names. Respect other posters. You don’t have to agree with them but please do not insult them.

    Also, I am not your hero, lover, father, or a fool. Call me by my own name and don’t name me as you please.

  133. Agracean says:

    Mr Khader Mohideen, a fool says in his heart that there is no God. So, are u a stupid fool?

  134. Khader Mohideen says:

    Dear Ali Sina ,
    I recently came to know about Bulle Shah. A punjabi Sufi.

    Not a believer inside the mosque, am I
    Nor a pagan disciple of false rites
    Not the pure amongst the impure
    Neither Moses, nor the Pharaoh

    Bulleh! to me, I am not known

    This is one of the famous song of Bulleh Shah , I found he is a strong ATHEIST by reading his poems.
    I need you to write an article about him on your Blog.
    This is my himble Request .


  135. Khader Mohideen says:

    Hi Ali Sina ,
    This is one of the best article on your Site. You are really a Philosopher.
    I think Islam affected you personally a lot , So why do you waste your precious time on just wrinting articles only on islam. We know all religions are Lie , All prophets and Godmen are Fraud.
    I request you to concentrate more on life related topics than abrahamic religions. The life is more powerful than religions.
    My request to you is please condemn or answer to the Pschycopaths
    Frankie Lee &

    These 2 idiots are wasting the time of others. especially the intellects who visit the site.
    Please remove the comments of the 2 idiots.


  136. John K says:

    This is a failure to understand the English idiom, "divinely". To say that someone expressed something divinely is not to say that they are a god. It simply is a way to say that something was well-said or sublime..

  137. Agracean says:

    Mr continuum, what's wrong with you? Why do you always find fault with Jesus?

    Mark 13:13 Everyone will hate you because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be

    Please note that 'you' is referring to His disciples while 'the one' is referring to His disciples, followers, including me.

  138. Agracean says:

    Mr continuum, so you mean to say that you'd rather choose to believe in the theory of evolution that you evolved from apes and that your first ancestors were apes and not human beings?

  139. continuum says:

    Ms. Grace,

    Mark 13:3 clearly says cheesus addresses his disciples privately. So cheesus addresses only his disciples privately..So Mark 13:13 also refers only to the disciples..

    Mark 13:3 (King James Version)

    And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,

  140. continuum says:

    Ms. Grace,

    I do NOT believe in biblical fiction.

  141. Agracean says:

    Mr continuum, please stop making such false accusations against Jesus and Christians! Did any Christians kill your family or robbed you of your inheritance or what? Why are you always against Christianity?

    Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

    Please note that in this verse, Jesus is addressing all His followers, including me and not only His disciples.

  142. Agracean says:

    Mr continuum, don't you agree with me that we all descend from our first ancestors, Adam and Eve, right? Isn't it true that it doesn't matter whether you are a red Indian or an Iranian, like my dear hero, Dr Ali Sina, we are all the descendants of Adam and Eve?

  143. continuum says:

    Cheesus addresses his disciples "privately" (Mark 13:3, Matthew 4:3) and lists what was going to happen before his return.

    He then adds "Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted and shall kill you and you shall be hated of all nations for my names sake" (Matthew 24:9).

    Mark says "he that shall endure to the end, the same shall be saved" (Mark 13:13).

    Thus it appears from this last remark that at least some of the disciples would survive and be present to witness the second coming and the end of time.

    Obviously this generation refers to cheesus speaking to his disciples' generation…obviously a false prophecy and cheesus was delusional…..

    In order to hide the embarrassing failure of their god, xians have started reinterpreting delusional statements of cheesus..

  144. continuum says:

    Ms. Grace,

    Either you are lying or you are ignorant…

    "Genea" means generation and NOT race..

    "Genos" means race or people…

    They are entirely two different words…

  145. Agracean says:

    Mr continuum, why should I lie to you? What's wrong with you? Why all this accusations?

    Gr. "genea," the primary definition of which is, "race, kind, family, stock, breed." (So all lexicons.) That the word is used in this sense because none of "these things," i.e. the world-wide preaching of the kingdom, the great tribulation, the return of the Lord in visible glory, and the regathering of the elect, occurred at the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus, A.D. 70. The promise is, therefore, that the generation–nation, or family of Israel–will be preserved unto "these things"; a promise wonderfully fulfilled to this day.

    You ought to read the entire chapter in order to understand Mark 13:30. By the way, you may have forgotten the fact that Jesus Christ is also the descendant of Abraham and He is alive and is coming back again!

  146. continuum says:

    Ms. Grace,

    Ms. Grace,

    Again, the greek word used is Genea which means

    1. fathered, birth, nativity
    2. that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family
    1. the several ranks of natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy
    2. metaph. a group of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character
    1. esp. in a bad sense, a perverse nation
    3. the whole multitude of men living at the same time
    4. an age (i.e. the time ordinarily occupied be each successive generation), a space of 30 – 33 years

    "This generation" means the generation your delusional god cheesus was speaking to. As I said earlier its been 2000 years and your delusional god like that generation have turned to dust.

  147. continuum says:

    Ms. Grace,

    Why do you LIE? I know xians are adept in misleading, lying and spreading falsehoods to increase their numbers like their brothers muslims. After all that is what their religion is about.

    The greek word used is Genea which means

    1. fathered, birth, nativity
    2. that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family
    1. the several ranks of natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy
    2. metaph. a group of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character
    1. esp. in a bad sense, a perverse nation
    3. the whole multitude of men living at the same time
    4. an age (i.e. the time ordinarily occupied be each successive generation), a space of 30 – 33 years

    Nowhere the meaning includes human kind or any race or any follower of religion etc. as xians make up to avoid embarassment of failure of their delusional god.

  148. John K says:

    Congratulations on your progress, Darkfire.

    It is truly a reward for Ali Sina.

  149. ukdoesntwork says:

    I found my soulmate. We even get same results on psychological tests.Life is awesome now, before I had no idea what was the point. Now we try our best to fight islam in the net together.

  150. Agracean says:

    Mr continuum, please bear in mind the fact that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Don't you know that with the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day? Aren't you a delusional fool when you think that Jesus Christ is delusional? What's your view about our beloved Dr Ali Sina hallucinating that the road appears out of nowhere?

  151. Agracean says:

    Mr continuum, of course I know that Jesus speaks only the truth because He is the Son of God and He never tell lies. Please be informed that 'this generation shall not pass' is referring to humankind in general, the Jewish people, Christians, unbelievers instead of only those then living. It also means that mankind should not cease, until the accomplishment of these things i.e. the Jews shall not cease from being a distinct people, till all the counsels of God relative to them and the Gentiles be fulfilled. Jesus mentions Jerusalem's continuing to be under the power of the Gentiles till the fullness of the Gentiles should come in, i.e. till all the nations of the world should receive the Gospel of Christ, including the Jews.

  152. continuum says:

    Ms. Grace,

    How do you know cheesus speaks truth?

    Mark 13:30

    Amen I say to you, that this generation shall not pass, until all these things be done."

    Here is the lie cheesus made and its been 2000 years…that generation is dead and long gone…your cheesus did not appear anywhere…except in as hallucinations in the mind of xians…

  153. lonelyloner says:

    Dr. Sina, thank you for this excellent advise ^^.

    And for those who couldn't see his point, perhaps you simply haven't found the love of your life yet.
    Perhaps someday you'll find the love of your life too, then you'll see sense in Dr.Sina's advise.

  154. marcionite says:

    Hi there

    I found this gem in the purans that says Blasphemers will cook in hell for as long as sun & moon exists.Keep in mind that scientists say the sun will exist for another 6 billion years.That's a long time to spend in hell.

    Brahmavaivarta Purana 4.1.61. The pious credits earned in a hundred births are at once destroyed for they who blaspheme Lord Krsna or His saintly devotee.
    62 They are cooked in the terrible hell called Kumbhipaka. They are eaten by worms for as long as the sun and moon exist.
    63 Simply by seeing such a blasphemer all one’s piety is destroyed. If he sees him, a wise man bathes in the Ganga or glances at the sun, and in that way becomes purified

  155. Marcionite says:

    "Life has no meaning,except the meaning you give it" I think it's from Conversations With God by Neale D. Walsh

    The belief that LOVE is the ultimate goal & human experience is what makes all beliefs superior to Islam.This is the common theme in Christianity,Hinduism,Buddhism,Agnosticism,etc.

  156. Agracean says:

    Mr continuum, are you liar or what? Jesus Christ speaks the truth that He is the Son of man and the Son of God and indeed, He existed before Abraham and He is coming back to planet earth again. Yes, 2000 yrs ago, He promised that He'll be coming back to planet earth again and do rest assure that He will keep His words because He never tell lies. It's just a matter of time. Let's wait and see His promises come to pass! This is not hallucination nor delusion. This is His promise! You have the choice to believe it or not.

    But let's look at what our dear hero, Dr Ali Sina has to say about his hallucination and delusion: "Maybe there is nothing but the road! Maybe the journey is all there is." "For all we know, this journey is real. Its origin and destination may not be." Can you see the difference? Jesus Christ is absolutely sure about His second coming but our beloved Dr Ali Sina is hallucinating that the road appears out of nowhere which has no beginning and end and a lot of 'maybe' here and there!

  157. continuum says:

    Simple, he does NOT talk about being "son of god", claiming he existed before fictional character Abraham, talking about his second coming before this generation ends and saving entire world and other such grand delusions like your failed cheesus….

    Your cheesus claimed 2000 years ago about coming back in that generation. Its been 2000 years and more since He made that claim, showing he was delusional…

  158. Agracean says:

    Mr Jay, you are wrong! It's life that enables movement itself!

  159. Agracean says:

    Mr continuum, let me ask you a super simple question in order to answer your above question. How do you know Dr Ali Sina is not hallucinating?

  160. Jay says:

    Life is not moving, Movement itself is Life

  161. Agracean says:

    Dear rationalist and atheist hero, Dr Ali Sina, everything on earth is meaningless and it will pass away. So, do let me encourage you not to always look down but look up, for your redemption draweth nigh. Don't you know that Jesus Christ is your Redeemer and your great reward? 🙂

  162. continuum says:

    how do you know your cheesus was NOT hallucinating? He may NOT intentionally lie, but may have been under delusion…

  163. continuum says:


    "You accept the historical existence of Jesus?"

    "Unquestionably. No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life. How different, for instance, is the impression which we receive from an account of legendary heroes of antiquity like Theseus. Theseus and other heroes of his type lack the authentic vitality of Jesus."

    "Ludwig Lewisohn, in one of his recent books, claims that many of the sayings of Jesus paraphrase the sayings of other prophets."

    "No man," Einstein replied, "can deny the fact that Jesus existed, nor that his sayings are beautiful. Even if some them have been said before, no one has expressed them so divinely as he."

    there you go….both words as said by Einstein as per the website…^_^

  164. Agracean says:

    Mr Charlee, I don't understand why u keep on reminding me of the fact that you are an idiot? Anyway, your above explanation based on your Johrei teachings is just a pact of lies. Obviously, the founder of Johrei is a liar and deceived many gullible fools like you.

  165. Arya Anand says:

    A good post by Ali Sina and I enjoyed reading it.

  166. Athma says:

    This is a wonderful thought provoking article from Ali Sina. You got to be yourself, face the reality to enjoy the current life to the fullest. All believers and non-believers just remember this is the only life you have. Love everyone and hate no one (at the same time educate those who preaches hate as part of their believe system, before they destroy themselves and others alike…just like what we do here, kudos to ALI SINA…)

  167. Ali Sina says:

    That is so encouraging. I am so glad you found the direction of your life. This is my reward.

  168. darkfire316 says:

    A long time ago I wrote this letter to Dr. Sina. He changed my life.

    Since then I have been doing what I love to do, at every opportunity I can, and I am a happier person for it.

    I have taken a different career path and am trying to focus on a subject that I believe will make me happy and more of a fullfilled person.

    I've taken time to study why I was bad with women. I have learned so much and since then I've been consistently going out and practicing/flirting with random girls. It wasn't easy and I had to face a lot fears and faults I didn't even know I had, but 2 years later I find myself light years better than I ever was or thought I could be (and I'm doing well too 🙂 ). Now I go out with my friend (who is a not good women) and I'm teaching him what I've learned.

    I've a read a lot of books and I've started meditating again. I've realized that human suffering comes from living in the past and living in the future. Live now, moment to moment. There are no ordinary moments. (Read The Way of The Peaceful Warrior by Dan Millman or A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle).

    My life is a work in progress. But I don't worry about the future or sulk anymore about the mistakes I made in the past. I better myself every day regardless of the outcome. I live for what I love. I live for the present.

    Thank you Dr. Sina. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.


  169. Agracean says:

    Mr Charlee, Johrei has turned you into a psychic guru or what? You are spouting nonsense here again.

  170. Agracean says:

    Mr R.Parmene, Jesus Christ is the Messiah of God and He never tell lies while Muhammad bin Abdullah is a false prophet and a despicable liar. Period. You can be absolutely sure that Heaven and hell exist because Jesus Christ never tell lies! 🙂

  171. R.Parmene says:

    Muhammad too says he went to heaven and hell and came back. Why don't you believe his version instead of that of Jesus ? Also, Muhammad's heaven is much more attractive than that of Jesus. Why don't you prefer it ? It seems you reject islam simply because you are a christian.
    Isn't the most probable answer that both Jesus and Muhammad were fantasizing, probably after chewing some qat in the desert ? Doesn't belief in an afterlife prevent us from enjoying this life, the only one we're really, really sure about ?

  172. Agracean says:

    A computer is not an accident but an invention. A car or an aeroplane is not an accident but an invention. So, my dear rationalist and atheist hero, please be informed that you are not an accident but that you are fearfully and wonderfully made! Jesus loves you. 🙂

  173. Agracean says:

    Instead of being grateful and thankful to them for their years of love, education and provision, you turned your back against them and disowned them and you even despised your own official birthrights! Let me prove to you how stupid you've became after those years of funny education when you mentioned that the road of life leads to nowhere and that your destination may not be real. So, my dear Dr Ali Sina, you are an accident and you live accidentally and you die accidentally and your soul is an accident and everything, including the Universe is an accident and the principle behind every creation is an accident and it exist accidentally!

  174. Agracean says:

    Dear rationalist and athiest hero, Dr Ali Sina, you also said, "For all we know, this journey is real. Its origin and destination may not be. So what is the rush? Why to overrun others? Where do you think you are going so fast? What if the road of life is to nowhere? Why inflict so much pain on ourselves and on others for a fantasy? Why not enjoy the journey instead and make it pleasant for our fellow travelers?"

    Oh my dear foolish hero, Dr Ali Sina, I agree with you that this journey is real but please stop deceiving yourself any further that the origin and destination may not be real!

    When you are a young boy, you have no problems with the fact that your original parents gave birth to you but as you grew up, you received all kinds of funny education and you suddenly became so stupid that you denied the fact that it's your original parents who gave birth to you and painstakingly raised you up!

  175. Agracean says:

    Both Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking are imperfect human beings like anyone of us here on planet earth and please do admit the fact that they are sinners like us too. Therefore, you must take into considerations of these 2 important factors which sums up the fact that they are not 100% accurate or perfect in all matters especially areas related to our physical bodies and soul because they have no knowledge in these matters. So, how can you simply believe their every words and their beliefs without any doubts at all? Even Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking have to bow before Jesus Christ and confess that He is Lord of all!

    It's very sad to know that both these great scientists were blessed with great scienctific knowledge and they have blessed us in return with their many great discoveries but the truth is that they neither give thanks nor give glory to their loving Creator God for this special gift at all. Instead, they denied His existence and His love and used their gift to produce all kinds of strange doctrines which sounds nice to their ears.

  176. Agracean says:

    How can you believe that there's only the road and the journey is all that matters? Don't you agree that somebody must have worked hard day and night so that we may have this privilege to walk or drive on the road? And because of their great sacrifices, the journey to our final destination is made so much easier? Let's not be an ingrate and ignored the unconditional sacrificial love of that great Somebody, Lord Jesus Christ, Who has laid down his life and paved the road for us so that our life journey is safe and meaningful and He's there to meet us after we reached the end of the road because He has said that He will never leave us or forsake us. 🙂

  177. Agracean says:

    Dear rationalist and atheist hero, you said, "We have been put here without our permission. We don’t know wherefrom we come and whither we go. Since there is no way of knowing, there is no point in asking." "Maybe there is nothing but the road! Maybe the journey is all there is."

    Excuse me, my beloved rationalist and atheist hero, Dr Ali Sina, why rush to the conclusion that there's no way of knowing where you came from and whither you go and then, just simply quit asking till you expire? Why are you so foolish and lazy? What has happened to your commonsense?

  178. Ali Sina says:

    "and Einstein said that Jesus is truly divine,and is no myth."

    Did he? Where?

  179. Frankie Lee says:

    What's the point of being optimistic,when being pessimistic is reality?In transit we can be happy,but it will ends with great sorrow's note.Life goes on,but what about our eternal destiny,life after death?Does the words of Jesus be made vain just because they don't believe in Him?

    He alone told us what happen after death,and His words carries weight.Who dare to deny that His words are all empty?I am the way,the truth and the life.I have the keys of life,death and hell.Can you believe in the words of the most reliable and trusted person,the sinless life of Jesus,and the most powerful person in History?

    The most credible man of all history?You will die and cast into Hell fires if you believe not my message…Jesus.

    No one can offer proofs,better than him.Jesus was risen from the dead,and is alive and can answers to calls from whomever today.As He is alive,so His truths can be verified each and every time if man needs it.He has evidence that our world's library is too small for his books,His marvelous acts for the past 2000 years.

    He is still transforming lives,healing the sick,casting out demons,and participate in charitable deeds.
    The living presence of Jesus has never been abated here on earth,and Einstein said that Jesus is truly divine,and is no myth.

  180. Frankie Lee says:

    There is absolutely no point in life.We live in transit,and we know it.You get love,but will end in misery.You find happiness,yet it is whisk away sooner than later.Unless there is a higher power that can help us live eternally with peace,love and protection,and made life permanence with joy,all else is meaningless.Jesus is the only person that ever live who promises:I go to Heaven and prepare a mansion for you.Either he is a lunatic,a liar or He is telling the truth.

    Jesus came back from death and Hell,and was risen from the dead.Only Him alone give true meaning to human existence,and you can find no other place and people.The bliss of life is marred by sin,and it is about sin and sufferings which is why He want to help.Jesus carried our sorrows,sins and death.

    There is no way for any to find meaning,except through Jesus.Imagined our body are deteriorating where no repairs available.Many witnesses say in Heavens,lost limbs will be restored and life is bliss up there.Do you believe in their words,preach for almost two thousand years by now?

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