Russian Babay Miracle or Skin Disease?
Hundreds of sites and newspapers reported: Koran phrases appear on Russian baby’s skin
Allegedly, the words appear on the child’s arms, legs and stomach of the nine month old Ali – before fading away and being replaced with new verses.
The local doctors deny that the marks are from someone writing on the child’s skin.
Ali’s parents say that they were not religious until the writings started appearing on his skin, which is verified by their doctor and the imam in their village of Red October, a strongly Muslim region.
Now the boy has become a focus of Muslim homage in his troubled home province of Dagestan, close to war-ravaged Chechnya in the south of Russia. Thousands of people came to visit the miracle brining wealth to the impoverished village.
Politicians tried to score points from this story. Local MP Akhmedpasha Amiralaev said: ‘This boy is a pure sign of God. Allah sent him to Dagestan in order to stop revolts and tension in our republic.’
The boy’s mother claims, ‘Normally those signs appear twice a week – on Mondays and on the nights between Thursdays and Fridays.’
‘Ali always feels bad when it is happening. He cries and his temperature goes up. It’s impossible to hold him when it’s happening, his body is actively moving, so we put him into his cradle. It’s so hard to watch him suffering. The phrases regularly replace each other on the baby’s skin,‘ she said.
Local imam Abdulla has told locals that the Koran forecasts that before the end of the world, there may be people with its sayings on their bodies.
He said that one sign read: ‘Don’t hide these signs from the people.’
The story has attracted considerable attention from not just the Muslim media, but it has been reported even by Ruiters India and ABC News.
According to one report (Kizlyar, Russia) – “Up to two-thousand Muslims from the northern region of Russia are daily making the pilgrimage to the small Russian town of Kizlyar to see nine-month-old Ali Yakubov.”
However, this “miracle” happens to be a skin disease called Dermatographic urticaria (also known as dermographism, dermatographism or “skin writing”). It is a skin disorder seen in 4–5% of the population and is one of the most common types of urticaria, in which the skin becomes inflamed and sometimes raised when stroked or rubbed with a dull object.
Urticara is caused by mast cells in the surface of the skin releasing histamines without the presence of antigens, due to the presence of a weak membrane surrounding the mast cells. The histamines released cause the skin to swell in the affected areas.
This weak membrane easily and rapidly breaks down under physical pressure causing an allergic-like reaction, generally a red wheal (welt) to appear on the skin. It can often be confused with an allergic reaction to the object causing a scratch, when in fact it is the act of being scratched that causes a wheal to appear. These wheals are a subset of urticaria (hives) that appear within minutes, accompanied by a sensation of burning, and itchiness. In a normal case the swelling will reduce itself with no treatment within 15–30 minutes, but in extreme cases, itchy red wheals may last anywhere from a few hours to days.
As it turns out this alleged miracle that has caused so much uproar is a skin disease. The writings are made by a selfish mother who tortures her child to garner attention. In a civilized society this woman would be charged with child abuse and her baby taken away from her. But in an Islamic world, hungry for miracles she receives homage.
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i dont think a jerk like you is willing to read holy quran….
you need to open up your mind think, then read it and understand it,
as it is what all are meant to praise……………
The scratch marks will go away on their own after a few hours. The skin is too sensitive and if you scratch it it becomes red.
This is really a good post. I am so happy to see this post.This post shows the Miracles or Skin Disease but i thin this really Miracles but now a days skin care products and treatments can erase these things by latest equipments and laser treatments so this is not a big deal and need of worry
Looks like you did not read my explanation, which in itself shows you are a Muslim. Muslims have no interest in fact and they the thing they hate most is to read. There is no miracle here. That stupid mother writes on the body of her child and it starts reacting half an hour later. Go to that child and write something on his skin and half an hour hater you will see it.
There is a lot of allergic disease causes writing on our skin but if every week there is a writing about quraan this means its a miracle from god simply
U r right zia its really a miracle and everything is clear, those who said its said god will treat them
because if someone did it, you will just say, this is a man made, thre is a product called Software, which enables you to change any video… and think twice next time 🙂
I think this is a very interesting topic! Are there any recent investigations going on or are the parents of Ali refusing to do so? And why do they never mention names of the so-called "Doctors" who deny that someone was writing on the skin of the child?
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Surah Al-An'am (The Cattle)
1. All praises and thanks be to Allah, Who (Alone) created the heavens and the earth, and originated the darkness and the light, yet those who disbelieve hold others as equal with their Lord.
2. He it is Who has created you from clay, and then has decreed a stated term (for you to die). And there is with Him another determined term (for you to be resurrected), yet you doubt (in the Resurrection).
3. And He is Allah (to be worshipped Alone) in the heavens and on the earth, He knows what you conceal and what you reveal, and He knows what you earn (good or bad).
4. And never an Ayah (sign) comes to them from the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of their Lord, but that they have been turning away from it.
5. Indeed, they rejected the truth (the Qur'an and Muhammad ) when it came to them, but there will come to them the news of that (the torment) which they used to mock at.
6. Have they not seen how many a generation before them We have destroyed whom We had established on the earth such as We have not established you? And We poured out on them rain from the sky in abundance, and made the rivers flow under them. Yet We destroyed them for their sins, and created after them other generations.
7. And even if We had sent down unto you (O Muhammad ) a Message written on paper so that they could touch it with their hands, the disbelievers would have said: "This is nothing but obvious magic!"
8. And they say: "Why has not an angel been sent down to him?" Had We sent down an angel, the matter would have been judged at once, and no respite would be granted to them.
9. And had We appointed him an angel, We indeed would have made him a man, and We would have certainly caused them confusion in a matter which they have already covered with confusion (i.e. the Message of Prophet Muhammad ).
10. And indeed (many) Messengers were mocked before you, but their scoffers were surrounded by the very thing that they used to mock at.
11. Say (O Muhammad ): "Travel in the land and see what was the end of those who rejected truth."
12. Say (O Muhammad ): "To whom belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth?" Say: "To Allah. He has prescribed Mercy for Himself . Indeed He will gather you together on the Day of Resurrection, about which there is no doubt. Those who destroy themselves will not believe [in Allah as being the only Ilah (God), and Muhammad as being one of His Messengers, and in Resurrection, etc.].
13. And to Him belongs whatsoever exists in the night and the day, and He is the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing."
14. Say (O Muhammad ): "Shall I take as a Wali (helper, protector, etc.) any other than Allah, the Creator of the heavens and the earth? And it is He Who feeds but is not fed." Say: "Verily, I am commanded to be the first of those who submit themselves to Allah (as Muslims)." And be not you (O Muhammad ) of the Mushrikun [polytheists, pagans, idolaters and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah].
15. Say: "I fear, if I disobey my Lord, the torment of a Mighty Day."
16. Who is averted from (such a torment) on that Day, (Allah) has surely been Merciful to him. And that would be the obvious success.
17. And if Allah touches you with harm, none can remove it but He, and if He touches you with good, then He is Able to do all things.
18. And He is the Irresistible, above His slaves, and He is the All-Wise, Well-Acquainted with all things.
19. Say (O Muhammad ): "What thing is the most great in witness?" Say: "Allah (the Most Great!) is Witness between me and you; this Qur'an has been revealed to me that I may therewith warn you and whomsoever it may reach. Can you verily bear witness that besides Allah there are other aliha (gods)?" Say "I bear no (such) witness!" Say: "But in truth He (Allah) is the only one Ilah (God). And truly I am innocent of what you join in worship with Him."
20. Those to whom We have given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) recognize him (i.e. Muhammad as a Messenger of Allah, and they also know that there is no Ilah (God) but Allah and Islam is Allah's Religion), as they recognize their own sons. Those who destroy themselves will not believe . (Tafsir At-Tabari)
http://www.dar-us-salam.com/TheNobleQuran/surah6….
Yes it is truly miracle that a baby is having skin with this kind of writing work. I think the amazing thing is that he is so young very small kid. It seems to be real. Lip enhancement perth
lol muslims are still trying to make miracles where science stands strong. Now anyone can understand what mohamad did before 1400 years ago. Poor baby, i can feel his/her pain.
If you think a mother cannot be so cruel, you do not want to know about mothers who dump their babies on garbage these days.
that's true poopoo you are absolutely right, women in islamic countries (especially arab countries) are treated by far better than women in america, i admit it, i've seen both and i really admit it, in america drunk husbands beat their wives, hurt them, and insult them, but in islamic countries drunk people aren't too much cause wine is prohibited by islam, and the non drunk people treat their wives very well. do you know that here in arab countries the groom is forced to have a house and a stable source of money (job) to be allowed to marry his bride, and that he should buy her expensive jewellery before they get married, that's why marriage is not easy here, not as easy as having girlfriends in your countries all they do is "fuck an escape" or "fuck and break up", marriage here is a serious situation which requires respect from both husband and wife, so it's dealt with seriously. and btw these aren't islamic regulations, it's the arab cultures, as an example islam said that a groom should buy his bride a ring or necklace or so for engagement, but it isn't a must that it should be expensive, it could be a cheap piece of metal as long as the bride accept it, so it's obvious that women gain much more respect here in islamic countries (specially the arab ones) than in the western countries.
First of all russia is not an islamic country, but still they do approve this phenomenon, and the russian doctors aren't lacking technology or something, they are at a good level worldwide, and still they do approve the phenomenon, and it's known that writing on skin or skin abuse takes long months to recover, and in the case of the baby, the holy verses of the Holy Quran fade quickly after a couple of days and are replaced by new ones. and even if it was urticaria as you said, still the verses appear clearly and in a very obvious manner, as i can read arabic very well and i do approve these verses occur in a very clear script, so if it was an urticaria, this makes it more "miraculous" cause it says that no one have written these words but god, neither his mother nor his father have to do with his urticaria. obviously it is a pure miracle. why u no admit it 😀
you can give all the scientific stories you can give….Just to disbelieve in miracles… Napolion also tried giving a scientific explanation for splitting the sea and there was also a scientific explanation for the burning bush. You keep it up okay? keep it up okay? the smart scientific Geek.
I had the same thing. Of course i wrote a name on my arm and it remained for ten years. Luckily now is disappeared.
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Instead he causes natural calmaties and even kills his own followers. (Turkey, Pakistan, Indonesia)
Truth Is your Allah does not exist, he was just a figment of Muhammad's imagination.
If Allah want to show miracle then better he would have saved us from natural calmities and danger diseases then suffering a child. But here the poor parents want attention from public so they get help and money bcoz even this is miracle, it useless hopless miracle benefiting none, this is jst a circus show…
Why miracles, why are muslims so desperate to prove the divinity of Islam? Why can't islam come with perfect cure for cancer, AIDS and other terminal deseases.
"Imam Khameini" can come to this site and debate Sina whether he wants can`t see him doing that somehow as for Sina having live debate with him, is that fair? As you probably know it is a crime to criticise Khameini and muhammed in Iran yes come to live debate in Iran and i will kill you if you say anything bad about me or my prophet, fair debating terms eh? Unless of course he flies to Canada or the U.S to have a live debate with Sina about Islam and i admit that is something i would like to see (as would millions if not billions of other people), that would be a big for call for him obviously as it could be disastrous for the image of the "spritual leader of shia islam" if he was to get owned by Sina in a live debate. Is he going to debate Sina live in Canada, i don`t see him agreeing to it. But sinse by the sounds of it you are on personal terms with the Imam maybe you could make the suggestion?
That's right sunni made many mistake's,in Bukhari,Muslim and many more,why does Ali Sina not face Imam Khameini?
The real miracle of Islam is that a billion humans follow a pedophile and polygamous prophet who quotes a Quran which is filled with irrational and hateful versus. Having read the Quran I can confidently say that it is a childish view of a jealous and hateful God(Created by a megalomaniac)
May peace prevail on earth and sense prevail on Muslims.
continue you discussion until no one of man read LoL
I hope you are right. Unfortunately modernization of Muslims depends on them being educated on the current state of the art of science.
Even st. Francis of asisi hide his stigmata and padre pio… they never show their mark until death. ALLELUIA JESUS!! HE IS GOD!!
Awesome artical… I hope u'll write more,Mr.Sina
And though this, u have win many people and brought them to light
May God always be with you… 🙂 Thank u very much! I like all of them and I cant stop thinking about this website… 🙂 Thank u <3
today pseudo miracles of islam is appearing on earth day will come when man will reach to mars and other planets there will also be claim of miracles of allah
You have no idea, what some mothers do to their own children. They mutilate their genitalia, sell them into slavery, even kill them. You say, you are a hindu? How many little girls are being killed or abandoned in India every year only because they are girls?
Not the only "miracle":
"The Hindu milk miracle was a phenomenon, considered by many Hindus as a miracle, which occurred on September 21, 1995.[1] Before dawn, a Hindu worshiper at a temple in south New Delhi made an offering of milk to a statue of Ganesha. When a spoonful of milk from the bowl was held up to the trunk of the statue, the liquid was seen to disappear, apparently taken in by the idol. Word of the event spread quickly, and by mid-morning it was found that statues of the entire Hindu pantheon in temples all over North India were taking in milk."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_milk_miracle
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"A weeping statue is a statue which has been claimed to be shedding tears or weeping by supernatural means. Statues weeping tears of a substance which appears to be human blood, oil, and scented liquids have all been reported. Other claimed phenomena are sometimes associated with weeping statues such as miraculous healing, the formation of figures in the tear lines, and the scent of roses. These events are generally reported by some Christians, and initially attract some pilgrims, but are in most cases disallowed by the upper levels of the Church or proven as hoaxes."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weeping_statue
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Also see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_view_of_mira…
Have you not heard about Mohram (sp ??). In which the mothers actually mutilate their young ones.
Have you not heard of mothers who have so much hatred for their enemies (Jews) that they send the son's and daughter to die as suicide bombers, so the dead child can pray their parents into heaven.
Muhammad lied! and People Died…and still are dying!! Thanks brother for having courge to call a spade a spade.
BTW so what if the writing appears miraculously, who is to say it is coming from above and not from below. These things are proof of what !!??!!
Financial or starved for attention.
Dr. Sina has adequately explained the skin condition that allows this phenomenon.
Dr. Sina has nothing against people who believe in God. But God is not Allah. The Quran proves it.
Muslims are constantly going through adjustment disorders when they leave this life and find things are not the way they expected them to be.
is there any miracles of 72 virgins ?
how did you come in this world befor you are nothing nobody know you who are you .why are you challeng to god.what you get it and for what. life is not ever lasting if you can stop your self to die than try.one day you die and everbody forget you and nobody can remember.lot off people come and gone.
not see your self who make this world,sky,sea,animal,fruit,mountent ect…….without mean…….
Thank you Arya.
je suis un nouveau membre sur votre site monsieur sina je préféré vous appeler comme ce plus mieux que Ali car ça marche pas avec vous;;;vous me comprenez bien,donc,ce qui concerne le miracle de bébé russe juste je vous demander des arguments peuvent me convaincre je veux du fond du coeur vous croire…..
Some people are allergic to certain things, and if you are allergic to garlic, for example, red spots
will appear on your skin just by running a clove of garlic on it. You can make drawings or writings as you wish, and the same drawings will appear on your skin. Thats what the parents of this child have done to him. The motive is financial, according to my belief.
What do you think?
I am very good in photoshop and those images are nothing to do with photoshop editing. religion keeps trying to create these type of stories and this shows that they can not compete with science and the social justice, so they keep diverting people's attention to childish stories. this region which is unfortunately dominated with Islamic fanatic activities, so hearing these stories will become apparent from now on. but as they don't base on any logical and scientific ground, they will fade away quickly. Thank Ali Sina for the great explanation.
Mohameddans everywhere are all alike.
Drunk and calm = BAD.
Sober and hostile = GOOD.
Truth about Islam = BAD.
Makebelieve miracles = GOOD.
Must be funny looking at the world through the eyes of muslims.
The only miracle in Islam is how people still look Muhammad as a rolemodel after everything he had brought to the world.
How can you accept my medical explenation and still believe that it is a miracle? The child mother wrote those verses. What is so miraculous about it?
You can write anything to that body of that child and after 30 minutes it starts becoming red. It causes pain and itching and that is why the baby cries everytime this happens.
What you see is not a miracle but child abuse.
I accept your medical explanation, but appearing like scripts as exact as this, is really wired, extra ordinary and definitely can be a miracle!
and i saw the rest of you posts…actually they are not fair and logical, it seems like hostility more than the criticizing, for example what said about beating the women, I've been in Muslim society and western society both, I saw Muslim women were treated gently too much more than the westerners, fur sure they got beat less! (at least in Muslim families Drunk men are less!!!!)…
I got this news by an email, I thought it is fake and made by photo shop etc… but if actually this was not manipulating…your arguments are absolutely so weak, yes it can be a miracle, what is the miracle? it is an extra-ordinary phenomenon, and this is…
you may don't believe in Quran, but for a person who believe it works, it is metaphysically logical. not the shape Quranic phrases, every thing else can be supposed as evidence of metaphysical world.
Hi Apu,
Do you think the pictures I have posted showing skin writings on different subject are photoshoped? Did you read the article? Why don’t you Google “Dermatographic urticaria “?
You are an example of people with really weird claims who like to visit this site. These pictures did not come from Ali Sina. These are claims of Muslims which have been in the news. So if they are faked, the people who made them did it. Ali Sina's medical explanation is correct. You are ignorant and blind if you don't accept it.
the picture which r shown later are photoshoped,,,,,,,,,, every one plz examine it , zoom it to maximum and check it,,,,,,only some people who r regular photoshop user can find the difference……………… ali sina is lying..
muslims are like that no matter how hard they try to mask their identity. Check FFI.org in letter section "What is Evil 1 & 2". Their game is easily broken.
Hakan finally reveals his gutter-mind depravity, one of Islam's core motivations.
Yo, “skeptic” Hakan. Allah should do better on this miracle like,
1. Relevant Quranic verse to the condition in Russia
2. Verse emerges in non muslim’s body (everyone is ok but kafir leaders would be better)
3. Talking (or singing) baby
Maybe I should be his advisor in 7th heaven. Do you agree?
Really, you just shot your own foot here if you even realize it. If you just post for the sake of "replying'" (trolling and contradicting yourself) then that's up to you and that shows your capacity. First the word "skeptic" then the word "bollock". Catch my drift?
yeh baby, ofcourse im biased,its a biased ole world, i thrive in bieng biased, thats why i enjoy reading n replying in a biased way to all the biased bollocks u folks here enjoy posting 🙂
maybe becuase they dont giv a toss about there beliefs really, and there probally too busy paying a blonde russian for a BJ
Don't give a toss? Why did you even write about it then? Buddy, there are plenty ways and indications to question this miracle and Sina had his own way and if you ever bother to read my post carefully you wouldn't say that about Sina (in this context).
9/11? You are so good at switching issues here. These are 2 different things and one doesn't affect another. By the way, you are also bias. I'll explain later on your comment about 9/11 at other article. Sure, everyone can accuse someone but never look into the mirror themselves. That's human, isn't it.
How about this – in America, we have these amazing things called "video cameras." They can take "moving pictures" of things in real time! Then, using something called "software," on a "computer," these videos can be sped up so that you can view the happenings of hours in just a few minutes. Incredible!
If this miracle is truly a miracle, why is it that none of the fabulously wealthy Muslims in the entire Arab world, who would love nothing more than to have video evidence of a proven Islamic miracle, have not spent a few thousand dollars of their wealth to buy a video camera, travel to Russia and tape this child's arms for a day or two, proving that nobody wrote these verses on his arms and they just appeared out of thin air, then speed up the video and post it on Youtube so the entire world can bask in the glory of Allah's miracles?
Oh, right, it's because it isn't a miracle, it's just an abusive mother who wants attention/money/etc.
And why are you so biased on this issue? Do you believe in fairy tales too?
i dont giv it a toss if its a miracle or not,its the credibilty of self proclaimed rational skeptics like mr ali sina that u should be worried about, there r many things in mr sinas writeings that r eye opening but then u have to put up wis his tottaly biased and irrational accusations and critisms such as this so called miracle and his utter bias wen it comes to his futile attempts in debunking the so called 9/11 conspiracy theorists,attacking one enemy while giveing ur ass to another is very hypocritical
Your statement is a fallacy. A mother is a human, a human can do both bad and good things let alone for greater purpose. The end justifies the mean, they say. In fact, you are not aware that many mothers have committed crimes to their children such as abortion, murder for various reason (emotion, economy, etc), neglect, domestic violence, etc.
The only reputation at stake here is belonged to the Yakubov family since their story didn’t move out from speculation world and no one believed them (not even the authorities) except muslims (of course they did). You didn’t get convinced by this article? But this story itself didn’t convince me at all and that’s the first step in order to prove the truth. The burden of proof was on Yakubov family and Russian authorities and since both of them didn’t investigate further then…
If you want Sina to delete the article then Sina will have to delete all of Islamic science such as moon splitting, embryology, ostrich egg, big bang, etc. What good that will be? Since the investigation of this story didn’t exist you should tell all media to delete the news too. The correct one is, this story doesn’t belong to scientific paper or international news just like Islamic pseudo science.
You wrote, “You usually draw conclusions from strong pieces of evidence”
How about I told you a very obscure, unclear story lacked of evidence, having no possibility to investigate and demanded you to prove that I was lying. After that many “blind” people who were my own fanatic supporters believed me and seeing that you had not written anything against it, used it as “proof” that you were wrong. Catch my drift?
How about you mention the holes in Sina’s conclusion? That would be more useful.
Why did the authorities (government, medical team, etc) fail the child? That’s the whole point and implicitly, the end (result). This site is not an organization nor it has dollars unlike most of Islamic propaganda or movement, beside skeptics (who knew the news) had demanded for further investigation but since the authorities didn’t care, then…
Your word “crusade” hint me of your … (ugh, I don’t even want to say it). Save many others? There is no need since no one takes this obscure incident seriously.
In my own country there are also many miracles happen (from various background not just faith) but the authorities don’t give a damn about it. Report all of them? Nope, that would be waste of time, not to mention money for investigation. Next time, try to discuss Islam directly for it will be better than defending this obscure incident.
Regarding this “miracle” I have several points to ask you:
1. If I take this as miracle then what is the point of this miracle exactly and better yet, what is a miracle exactly?
2. What is the point of Ali’s suffering? This was supposed to be a miracle.
3. If we take this as miracle then Islam is greatly overwhelmed by Christianity (or other faiths) regarding the number of “miracle”. What do you think about other miracles? Do you want to travel to all places on this earth to confirm these countless miracles?
4. Of course, there are unexplained (not yet) natural phenomenon but most of it don’t have any purpose or point. It just happens.
5. Why there was no medical examination? The medical community just didn’t care. The burden of proof was on Ali’s mother so she should bring her to hospital and the first one responsible for investigation was the Russian government. The widespread of news itself is an “invitation for investigation” (assuming that you were clueless on this matter) but no one cared about it.
6. In order to bring this story into international acknowledgement you have to provide the 3 steps, the beginning, the process (investigation), and the end (result). Ali Yakubov only had the first one, a typical fake story.
7. What happens to this story now since this was an old news?
8. Sina was assuming (using logical deduction and medical material)? So did muslims and the Russian Ulema (using faith). The problem is, Sina is in Canada and these Ulema are in Russia. The first one can’t investigate directly because of the distance but the second one refused to investigate.
9. Did muslim ever attempt to check this? Did you ever want to check it?
10. I had read that even the local doctor didn’t believe this.
11. Is this even an Islamic miracle since there are Islamic sects that see this as an act of idolatry? Making pilgrimage to a baby and “christening” it as “holy” or “chosen” baby is an act of shirk.
Even if there are many unexplained phenomena in this world this case is explained. http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-dermographia.htm
i will be reading it soon wen i get enough time, its not as if i is gonna be putting my head on a guilotine 🙁
Ha! Crusade! More linguistic antics! Since you love the Crusades so much, you might like this article:
Four Myths about the Crusades
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/column.php?n=15…
Islam has already been debunked. You just have to convince yourself of that. Have you read Ali Sina's book yet? No. I didn't think so.
The thing is that you obviously have no scientific training or knowledge. It is futile for a rational person to try to talk to an irrational person, which is pretty much what talking with Muslims is all about. You don't come from a knowledge culture and you have no common sense about knowledge and how to know things at all.
the authorities might fail the child but since u lot r on a crusade to scientificly debunk islam then atleast u have a chance to do so, and save many others from the cruelty u percieve in islam.
aha! 🙂 so u must be the forensic scientist who has examined the poor child, how about u doing a better a job at exposeing the bar stud parents then.
Like the authorities are really going to care about this.
from where ever ur physical position is on this planet and im probally correct that it is certianly not in any close proximity to the child or ever has been, u have no recourse to any forensic or biological examination of the child to draw such a damning conclusion on any parent, and if ur analysis is bothering u soo much about the parents cruelty then u should do the decent thing and broadcast ur opinions for an independent investigation and also getting the russian authorities aswell as interpol to investigate, though in my heart i do believe the chances of foul play by the parents is probally the correct conclusion,but since there r so many unexplained phenomenas in this world it would be unwise of myself to accept that as a verdict.
This is a Muslim cultural defect that they can only insult rather than think.
It is medical science.
The evidence is on his skin. Those marks are caused when the skin s scratched. What more evidence you need? No those marks are not miracles. Science can debunk those silly claims. I have posted many other pictures showing how the marks are created.
what kind evidence do u have that u could use to accuse the child parents of gross bodilly harm of an inoccent minor,if ur that convinced about the harm bieng caused to the poor child by his evil parents, then why dont u report the parents to interpol or the russian police, or in the very least propogate for a sincere investigation to be done to expose the parents,it would also help in ur crusade to demoralise the muslim massess
the best a person in ur position should say is that the parents r more than likely reponsible, for u to act the judge and jury based only on ur assumptions and a few hours googling only gives u away as a phoney skeptic
So your argument is that no mother would do such thing to her child? Obviously you have not read that many mothers have killed their children. This stupid woman sought only fame for herself and for her child.
I have shown you many pictures that prove this is not a miracle. If this is not logical, then give me your logical explanation.
I really don't mind the presence of ignorant and uneducated people like you in the world. What I don't like is when ignorant and uneducated people like you act like you are so smart and know more than people who are educated, and cannot recognize good scholarship when you see it.
Your comment is very ill-informed. Apparently you have not watched Muslims very much if you are not aware of all the children who are abused and killed in the name of Islam.
Dear Mr. Sina,
Firstly, I am not a Muslim. I am a Hindu and was following your writings since 2002 and recently I had to take a break from them for three years! I should say I am pretty much impressed by them. But this one article is something that does not convince me. I refuse to believe that a mother can be cruel to her own child, irrespective of what you think. And this article's style is also not your style. You usually draw conclusions from strong pieces of evidence. Here your conclusion is a mere speculation. Unless you can conclusively prove this, your very own reputation is at stake (not that it would matter to you! But would matter a lot to me as I keep referring my friends to your site!!!) Please respond accordingly by deleting the article, because there is no way you can prove your conclusion without compromising your identity. Thank you.
where is ur evidence to contradict the doctors mr ali sina ? very un scientific of u buddy 🙁
have u got any form of evidence of the child mothers malpractice mr ali sina ?
Also thanks for supporting vegan 🙂
Dear Ali Sina,
Thanks for this article. I have read your book. I agree each and every thing that you wrote in the book. But, I was so confused about this so called miracle. Thanks for revealing the truth. Also I thank you for this website which serves the mankind.
Posts like this are a sure sign you have zero scientific education. How can backwards people from a 7th century culture show themselves in public for such an embarrassing statement? Surely this must be the reason the post is anonymous.
Love? Did you mean Islamic version?
Let’s say, “If you dare, come out, so that you can be loved!”. It’s a very weird sentence.
Huh? This article again? This is outdated, boring and funny title (babay).
Zia wrote, “ali sina has gone mad.. u need mental check up”
Why did you call him mad? Please be specific. Your comment is the same with this muslim in FFI.org:
“Ali Sina is getting mad! WHy don’t you go to that village and accuse the parents? Show yourself man!”
Which part that indicates madness?
Zia wrote, “i heard a christian doctor saying that this child was put in icu under medical observation for 24 hours without anyone entering the ward.”
And I heard that this babay, ops baby can talk 5 languages and recite the whole Quran. Next time bring your source such as the doctor, hospital, etc.
All ex-muslims and ex-muslimahs should declare that Muhammad bin Abdullah lied!
Hi Abdullah Khan,
Good to hear that. You are not free to love all the people and to be happy. Enjoy life and make it enjoyable to others. We are going to change the world one person at a time and grow exponentially. Just make sure you don’t keep this to yourself but share it with others. It is sad to see how Muslims kill each other for a lie. It does not have to be this way.
ALI SINA I WAS ONE OF THOSE WHO HATED YOU BUT NO MORE,,, YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE WHO SET ME FREE,,, KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING FOR I AM GOING TO FOLLOW YOUR FOOTSTEPS AND HELP OTHERS FREE THEMSELVES TOO
THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
exmuslim from sunni background… Muhammad lied!
If he'd do that, im sure that he will be eating death threats for breakfast haha
that is sure stupidity. you only heard not SEEN. Adding facts like christian doctor or like is sure is stupid
I have not kept this a secret. I want the world see Islam is a lie and Muslims leave it. I have been very successful in helping Muslims out of Islam. People who like you hated me, now love me. That is a great feeling. The fact that I have not only set them free but also their children and future generations is a real fulfilment. A life spent in liberating others is the best life lived. If you read my book you too will become my fan. You can buy it or I will send the earlier edition of it to you for free. Just ask when you are ready.
If however, you read the book and prove me wrong I will declare your victory and my defeat publicly.
An odd request. It is clear that this web site is Dr. Sina's labor of love to help Muslims.
@ Ali Sina if you have guts come out and declare what you have created this website for ,You will see love among people following around you ..
Is the maker of this grand and vast universe so silly to send such ridiculous signs and so desperate to be known by humans through this childish behaviour? Any sane person will only see this kind of miracles as something ludicrous. Only circus buffoons will claim this nonsense as a miracle of God.
The verses are from Quran, the selfish attention seeking mother writes them on the body of her child. About 30 minutes later they start to show, causing burning sensation and pain to the child. The doctors who did not discover this were ignorant and maybe later they decided to go with the tide as they saw the media has been fooled.
You can write anything on the body of that child.
Could somebody please translate accurately what the verse in arabic means in Russian baby's leg?
Considering the sign as a supernatural reality what makes you sure that god is the one who is posting these messages and not some evil ghost?
ali sina has gone mad.. u need mental check up. i heard a christian doctor saying that this child was put in icu under medical observation for 24 hours without anyone entering the ward. still they found some strange shapes being formed and they discovered from her parents then which turned-up to be quranic versus. non- believers will not even trust it if it comes to their bodies.
These writings are not formed naturally or miraculously. The skin leaves a mark about 15 minutes after being pressed with a dull object. It causes pain and burning sensation, that is why the little Ali cries every time her mother does this to him.
Why exactly are words and shapes formed from this? For example the L503?